Nightcap Hour 3: Lebron's Lakers Legacy + Advice for Fathers on the road a lot

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 3: Lebron's Lakers Legacy + Advice for Fathers on the Road (May 13, 2026)

Host: Shannon Sharpe (Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson, ISO (Joe Johnson) guest co-hosts) Theme: Reflections and Real Talk – From Lebron’s Lakers Impact to Fatherhood on the Move

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Episode Overview

In this dynamic, candid edition of Club Shay Shay's "Nightcap," Shannon Sharpe leads a lively Q&A with Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson, ISO (Joe Johnson), and the broader Nightcap community. The trio breaks down hot NBA topics—especially LeBron James’ complex Lakers legacy and L.A.’s roster issues—field tough questions from fans about mental health, tattoos, parenting on the go, and share plenty of signature locker-room banter. Personal stories, relatable honesty, and sharp basketball insights anchor this engaging episode.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Nightcap Community Q&A and Light-Hearted Banter (03:17–07:29)

• Reveling in “glizzy” culture: Ocho and Joe joke about proudly eating hot dogs (aka glizzies), with Ocho noting he has "no shame about it" (04:16).
• Austin Reeves’ Playoff Value: A fan asks if the Lakers should keep or trade Austin Reeves.
  • Ocho points out that "the last thing you want to do is tick off a superstar"—Luka Doncic wants their chemistry preserved, but both Reeves and Luka are "defensively challenged" (07:42-08:15).
  • Joe: "You just gotta find a way to put some dogs with them...offensively they got it, defensively you need some grit" (08:15-08:43).

Notable Quote

"I can't recall a backcourt that was defensively challenged and still won a championship."
— Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson (07:55)

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2. The Kevin Hart Roast & Culture Commentary (10:46–13:13)

• Roast reflections: The group analyzes the Kevin Hart roast and how modern roasts go "overboard"—referencing jokes that cross lines (like the "George Floyd joke": 14:05).
• Ocho explains roast traditions: “When it’s a roast, it’s all, no holds barred—everybody gets it.” (13:03)
• Cultural observations: They discuss the fine line between comedy and offense, especially in today’s online era.

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3. Basketball & Legacy Talk (14:34–17:10, 65:03–76:49)

• Could Big 3 standouts help the Lakers? Joe honestly says, "Not with this league. Maybe Dwight Howard, but I couldn’t have done nothin’ for ‘em" (15:19).
• Wolves/Lakers playoff analysis: Debating the luck and skill behind recent playoff outcomes (16:15–17:10).
• Lebron's Lakers Legacy: Recurrent theme—does the Lakers’ reliance on LeBron mask deeper roster construction problems? (80:22)
  • Ocho: “A lot of times when you great, you think, ‘I just make a little simple move.’ Those days are over, Joe, Ocho. I think they're over.” (80:22-80:48)
  • Joe: "Anywhere Bron go, it's so deep now...these teams go eight, nine deep." (81:03)
• LeBron GOAT debate: They compare LeBron's playoff record to Kobe and Steph, questioning the standard for greatness (76:05–76:37).

Notable Quote

"Anywhere Bron go, it's so deep now—these teams go eight, nine legit deep."
— Joe Johnson (81:03)

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4. Mental Health and Overcoming Adversity (20:39–24:23)

• Fan asks about battling dark times and mental health:
  • Ocho: "My desire to continue is greater than my desire to give up. All I need is a handful of people that believe in me." (21:01)
  • The group discusses how public figures get “picked apart” online, and how support from loved ones fuels resilience even when times are tough.
• Humor in adversity: Jokes about toe-sucking and family quirks segue into reflections on self-acceptance and handling criticism.
• "Sunshine follows rain" inspiration:

  "Just remember, sunshine follows rain...as hard as it's been, think about where you came from."
  — Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson (29:00)

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5. Parenting and Fatherhood on the Road (53:37–55:36)

• A fan who is a truck driver asks for advice on being a present father despite traveling.
  • Ocho’s advice: “When you're present, be present…Once you tell a kid you’re gonna do something, you gotta be there and do it” (54:09).
  • Kids "remember everything," so honesty and follow-through are crucial, even when job demands mean sacrifices at home.
• Having 'uncomfortable conversations': Letting kids know why you’re away helps, but "even the best dads miss some things."
  • Ocho: "LeBron has been in the league 20 years...how many things you think he's missed? But when he had an opportunity to get there, he did." (55:36)

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6. Tattoos, Earring Stories, and Generational Shifts (37:06–52:55)

• First tattoos: Joe, Ocho, and ISO share when and why they got their first tattoos, and the cultural/family pushback they faced.
• Shannon explains why he never got tattoos or earrings—would’ve disappointed his grandmother (38:32).
• Old-school piercing methods: Anecdotes about using hot sewing needles and ice cubes for ear piercings in the "pre-Claire’s" era.
  • Ocho: “You got a sewing needle or a safety pin…burn it, let that thing numb up—push it right through.” (53:18)

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7. Sports Roster Moves, Player Experiences, and Football Forecasts (50:50–62:36, 81:39–82:55)

• Trade experiences: Joe recalls he was traded from Atlanta to Brooklyn without ever speaking to the new GM (50:50).
• NFL team critique: Playful predictions about the Cowboys, Giants, Falcons, and the season’s kickoff.
  • Joe, on the Cowboys’ opener: “We’re gonna probably blow the doors off them, boy.” (74:44)
• NFL QBs with most to prove: All agree Burrow, Allen, and Dak have “something to prove”—not just stats, but championships (81:39).
  • Ocho: “No more excuses, right? It’s really that simple."

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8. Locker Room Culture, Competition, and Legacy (62:56–79:22)

• Locker room & college stories: Reminiscing about old-school teasing, competition, and drama—especially around relationships and rumors.
• Rec league challenges: Friendly trash talk about who could "stop" ISO in a game, who was more "rocked up" (yoked).
• Personal growth: Group emphasizes these are "past tense" exploits—they’ve all matured and moved on.

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9. Music & Culture Shoutouts (57:52, 77:15–77:24)

• Music favorites: Fans and hosts praise Anderson .Paak, Bruno Mars, and The Weeknd.
• Cultural respect: Ocho says anyone can start their own podcast if they want different guests or topics.

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Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• On eating glizzies (hot dogs) without shame:
  “Bread and dog. That’s it. And you gotta squish it, Joe.”
  — Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson (05:24)

• On representing fatherhood:
  “When you’re present, you gotta be present.”
  — Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson (54:09)

• On mental health:
  “My desire to continue is greater than my desire to give up.”
  — Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson (21:01)

• On LeBron’s Lakers tenure:
  “Those days are over, Joe, Ocho. I think they're over.”
  — Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson (80:48)

• On the generational divide:
  “I just know my granny…and I know she’d say, ‘Son, why you mark your body up?’”
  — Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson (38:50)

• On competition:
  “They called me the ISO stopper, boy.”
  — ISO (Joe Johnson) (72:10)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Nightcap Q&A Kickoff: 03:17
• Austin Reeves/Lakers Analysis: 06:44–09:52
• Kevin Hart Roast Reflections: 10:46–13:37
• Parenting on the Road Advice: 53:37–55:36
• LeBron’s Lakers Legacy Debate: 76:05–76:37, 80:22–81:06
• Tattoo Stories & Generational Anecdotes: 37:06–53:17
• Mental Health & Overcoming Adversity: 20:39–24:23

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a blend of insightful basketball talk, personal wisdom, and real “locker room” laughs. Shannon Sharpe and the crew deliver powerful reflections on legacy—both on and off the court. Whether discussing LeBron’s impact in L.A. or how to balance parenting with a demanding job, the relatability and honesty shine through, wrapped in the warm, wise-cracking tone that makes Club Shay Shay a fan favorite.

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Transcript

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

All right, time to play Q and A.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Q and A.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Before we get to our super chats, we got two video voicemails from our discord. Let's take a listen. Ocho, ISO. What up with y' all boys, man? What up with the big three? What up, nightcap family? Yo, I just got a quick thing for Ocho, bro.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I just want to say I appreciate you, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I appreciate your love for a glizzy, you know what I'm saying?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I recently just got back into eating

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

glizzies because of you, bro. You so openly willing to eat a

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

glizzy and that you eat glizzy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So now I'm kind of like that,

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

you know what I'm saying? I love a.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

A mean glizzy, bro.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Like, I put my girl on glizzies, bro. So I just appreciate your love and your passion for glizzies.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hell, I'm on work lunch right now. I got a glizzy, you know what I'm saying?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I'm ready to eat, you know what I'm saying?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Appreciate you the whole truck, for sure, bro. Love, bro.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, you know what? I appreciate that. I appreciate that not. Not being. Not being scared to. To publicly eat glizzies like myself. Anytime I go to a sporting event, I don't care what it is, I'm getting two glizzies. I don't use Condiments. I don't use condiments. And the fact that you're brave enough like myself not to care with anybody else.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Condoms either. But go ahead. We get you, huh? You anything that got condom condiments. Cond. When we get your poke.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe, you eat glizzies now?

[Joe]

I don't eat glizzy, but Ocho, they got some.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They got.

[Joe]

I heard they got some mean glizzes down there in Miami with like some caviar on it or something. Like a hundred dollar glizzy, you know, I ain't with.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

See, I ain't with that fancy.

[Joe]

Oh, you don't get down like that.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Nah, Joe, I like regular hot dogs. You know, like, you go to New York, you know, the. On the look in the cards, the street.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Me?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah, Joe. Sporting event, you know, football game, soccer game. Yeah, yeah. I don't do that fancy stuff. Caviar.

[Joe]

Just. Just pause. Just bread in the meat.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's it.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, Bread and dog. Bread and dog. That's it. And you gotta hold on. You gotta squish it, Joe. You got to squish the bread together.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Before you eat it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Like I used to do my peanut butter and jelly sandwiches like that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Lord have mercy.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

What happened?

[Joe]

You don't eat glizzies up?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, I hadn't had. I. I'm be honest. I've been. Joe, I. I think the last time I had a hot dog, I had a Hebrew national. It's probably at my. Probably 2003.

[Joe]

Oh yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

20 plus years. But it was, it was a Hebrew national because I had a. A had a cookout birthday party back in, Back in, In Glenville. Back in it. Because the last year I think I had it was because I retired. So 2004. So I don't know if I had one in four or three, but it's been over 20 years.

[Joe]

Somebody in the chat say they go to quick trip.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Damn. So, hey, hey. But I remember, Joe, they used to have them in that warmer. They had them hot dogs and the buns be nice and warm.

[Joe]

Yeah. Hey, you going at the wrong time. When you hungry as hell. You'll be walking up out of there

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

with a couple and you get two or three of them. All right, here's the. Here's our second one. Yo, what up, nightcap gang? What up?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

What up, Ocho?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So, hey, man, I just want to start off by saying I'm a big fan of the show, man. I appreciate what y' all been doing. I'VE been rocking with y' all since day one, so keep doing y' all thing. But, man, I got a question, bro. What are we gonna do about Austin Reeves? Bro, I swear, I feel like every time we need him in the playoffs, such and such hurt. We need him to have a big game. He just don't show up, man. So what you think they should do? You think they should build around them or try to package them up and send them off for somebody a little bit more consistent? Consistent. I'm curious on your thoughts, but other than that, man, keep rocking. Keep doing your thing, man. I hope y' all keep ISO on the show. I'm a big fan of what he brought to the show. You know what I'm saying? His basketball takes, even his football takes be like that. So I hope y' all keep him on the show because I really want to see his face when my Ravens going to Dallas and whoop the Cowboys in a couple months. So if y' all could do that for me, I would appreciate y'. All. But other than that, man, keep rocking. Keep doing your thing. I'll see y' all on the show tonight. Peace. Well, if the reports ought to believe, Ocho and Joe Lucas made it very clear he wants to play with Austin Reeves, and he doesn't want him to be packaged for any other superstar.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Now, the last thing that you want to do is that is to tick off a superstar, because you got to have one in Los Angeles. You got to have one with the Lakers. You just do.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And I want to try to keep him as happy as I possibly can. The thing is, is that he's defensively challenged. So is Luca. And if you go back and study, I don't know when we've ever seen a backcourt that was defensively challenged with a championship. Now, Chat, maybe y' all can go back further than I can, but I can't recall what you.

[Joe]

Hey, you just gotta find a way to put some dogs with them. I. I think with Lucas, even when you watch them play, their chemistry is so great. Offensively. They Both have high IQs.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe]

Who can really score the basketball and get in them cracks. You know them, they.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They.

[Joe]

They. They really can play, but they are a bit challenged on the defensive side of the ball. So you gotta have some guys, bro, who don't mind taking the challenge and doing that, doing the dirty work that, you know, a lot of these other guys don't want to do big.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But the problem is, you're gonna run into Joe in the last five Minutes of the game. What we. What the NBA consider clutch time. They calling them out.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. They don't do that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What if you go. Go back and go watch the game and I know Austin, like I said, I know JJ wanted to pair Austin Reeves and. And what's his name, the left head guy, Luke Canard. Yeah, I know he wanted to pair him offensively because it gives you great space on the floor, but the problem is. Come here. Yeah.

[Joe]

Red rover, red roll.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, Chad, get the card. No, you. Whoever Canard is guard, whoever is Reeves's guard, that's who I want.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I gotta have that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It's hard. It is hard because you getting in the playoffs, a lot of times, if you see how the. The Thunder executed in those situations, they got every look that they wanted, and they prohibit you from getting the looks that you want.

[Joe]

Yep.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So that's look I. I like. I think. I think Austin Reeves has been his maturation and his growth to see an undrafted free agent. He was gonna make the All Star if he didn't get hurt. He's making the All Star team, Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah, Yeah, I agree.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He's a phenomenal offensive talent, you know? Yeah, he. The turnovers hurt hurt us. Hurt hurt us last night. Sometimes I'm like, bro, why you try to split the double team? Because you try to split it. The balls go another way because there's nobody there.

[Joe]

Right?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So now that's an easy. That's an easy. You know, that's a pickup throw out lead to an easy layup. TS car wash detail service. Y' all hear about CB album? Did y' all see the Kevin Hart roast? Yeah, Kevin.

[Joe]

I seen some of them. I seen.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He dropped an album, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did. I. I haven't. I haven't heard it. You know.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, bro, I know, I know.

[Joe]

He.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

He has a song with Leon Thomas. I think it's Leon. Yeah, I think Leon Thomas, real soulful. I think it might have been a single. I heard that one. I. I enjoyed that one. As far as Twitter goes, obviously Twister. Twitter's gonna always have their. Their own opinion on things. And obviously they say they. They don't like it. It sounds like all this other, Other. Other songs. They say he makes too many songs. He needs to shorten his playlist or whatever it may be. But I'm probably. I'm going take a listen to it

[Joe]

for myself because he got about 23, 24 songs on there.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Every time you make an album, it's 20 something. 20 something songs.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, bro, cut that down. That's. That's another album.

[Joe]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. But you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You.

[Joe]

You'll find you some gems, and there's some ones that you really like.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. When I saw. When I sat down with him and to see his house and to see. He was great.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Great, man. And I appreciate always, as always, I appreciate the time when guys sit down and he reached out like, oh, let's do it. Let's sit down and talk, man. Is this for real? Let me go see this thing. Got a blue check mark. Yes. I haven't watched it. I see bits and pieces of it.

[Joe]

Me too. To Kevin Hart.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Ocho, help me if I'm wrong. Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Talk to me.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But I thought a roast is like. It's the Kevin Hart roast.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They spent a lot of time roasting people that wasn't Kevin Hart.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, I. I think they. Matter of fact, this is the thing, when it comes to roasting, I don't know anybody in the chat. You guys might not be old enough, but I've watched every Dean Martin roast there is. So most of the time, let's say Dean Martin, Rose. And that night, it was. Let's say it was Frank Sinatra.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

They roast Frank Sinatra. Right. And everybody else that came to roast Frank Sinatra. So everybody get it.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Not. Not. Not just. Not just the person getting roasted. So that, I mean, I'm assuming.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But I think they spent too much time. And some of the stuff. I mean, look, I believe you can roast someone.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But I think sometimes they go overboard with it.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, hey, hey. When it's a roast, it's. Oh, no. No holds barred. No, no holds barred when it comes to Rose, especially those that are in attendance.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Everybody getting barred if it's something you saying something about somebody else. Because I know a lot of people lost their job. There was someone that got killed earlier in September.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yes.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And that people said was. And the people said things online. They lost their jobs.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They got the thing deactivated.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So this notion that. Oh, you know, Ro. No, no, no, no. It goes. If it's. If you say it about something that we don't really care about.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So we gotta, you know, hey, like this. This guy online, Chuck the builder.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He going around saying stuff, but he gonna catch the right person on the wrong day.

[Joe]

Right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He gonna get what he looking for.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He gonna get what he looking for. Don't get it. But they know exactly what to say, what word to say.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, I.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Like I said, I. Look, the George Floyd joke. I didn't think that was necessary.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

See, I always see. I ain't see all that. I ain't see that. I, I, I ain't watch K Hard roast.

[Joe]

I seen clips.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, that's, that's me because we, we were on, we were on.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, during it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So, but I tell you what, if somebody have a roast for Stephen A, I got something for him.

[Joe]

You got something for him.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Boy, do I hope you like the joker. Oh, we got a live one here. Do I you already know. I already know. You're gonna call me. I've been waiting for this moment. I've been waiting for this moment. Steve Martin. Hey, watching ISO and Beasley ball out in the big three. Realistic. Could they and Dwight Howard have helped the Lakers in this past series?

[Joe]

Hold on. What he saying?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He's saying if, if you and Dwight Howard could y' all have realistically helped the Lakers in this series.

[Joe]

No, not, not, not with this league. Right. I couldn't have done, Now I ain't going to lie and say I couldn't have done nothing. Now, Dwight, now Dwight and Beasley probably could have, but n you, I couldn't, I couldn't have done nothing for him.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I'm glad you said that, Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah, I'm just being, I'm just being.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, he definitely setting up for excuses when I, when I'm, when I, when

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I, oh, he said

[Joe]

I'm sitting that trap, baby. I'll say, I'll say that trap. Well, you see, when, when they see me on your ass, they're gonna be like, oh, he lied.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He can get out there right now. Yeah, Joseph, you just lay that trap for you. Hey, man, this series should have been over. Wolves got lucky in Games 1 and 4. What they did get lucky over, man, we need this. We do need it.

[Joe]

But they got lucky here. Wimby wasn't playing.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They definitely got lucky. Game four. Because I, I, it's just hard for me to believe that if they, they, they lose this series, Wimby in this game. And they took them down to the five. They took them down to like the last two minutes of the game, Joe.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Without Wendy.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Let's go. T. Wolves, man, four years.

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[Joe]

Let's get it to a Game seven. Need a Game seven?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I sure could use a Game seven. I definitely could use a Game seven. Kevin Non Delusional Cowboy fan hey, my question for Nightcap Bros. How in the hell do you handle your mental health? Also, how do you overcome the darkest battles without giving up? Because my desire to continue is greater than my desire to give up.

[Joe]

Hello.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's it. Because all I need is like a handful of people that believe in me. And I know I got a handful of people that believe in me.

[Joe]

There you go. There you go.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I cannot. I made my. My grandmother was on her deathbed and I say, I got it. I got to go get it.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

That's it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, it gets tough. Look, and I understand a fragile person and you. You having the bullying in school or being bullying and all that. I get it. I totally get it. Trust me, I get it. Because everything gets picked apart. Everything. Everything. Get. You know, he said this, but that's what he meant. Look at his body language. He this, he that. I was with Sukiyana Ocho. Joe Sugiana. Talk about Shannon. You don't. You don't suck no toes. I said no. You know what the comment said? What uncle suck no toes. He gotta be gay. What kind of pole vault. Look here, y' all got Armando Duplanta's pole vault. To be able to jump a hurdle

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

like that hey, hey, you got. You got that. You got to expand your palette, man.

[Joe]

Nah, damn that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Ride this out together.

[Joe]

Yeah, because I damn sure ain't sucking no toes now.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, Joe, listen to me.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I rub them, though. If I go to Sam Club today, on the job, a convenience store, and they're on the counter.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm gonna get them tongs and that wax paper, and I'm gonna pull them out. But other than that, ain't nobody told in my mouth, man.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, let me tell you. Let me tell you what to do.

[Joe]

What are you doing?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, go to the gas station, get that. Get that dollar bag of ice, take it home, get you that hammer and crush that ice up. Yeah, put it in that. Put it in a red solo cup. You hit me? Yeah, I put that icing in my mouth, huh? You start with the pinky toe. Start with the pinky toe and work your way like a harmonica, huh? Do the feet like a harmonica.

[Joe]

Okay, okay.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

And at some point, put the whole foot in your mouth.

[Joe]

Well, that's why you number one. I'm telling you, boy, that's exactly why

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

you drago that way.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Joe, I tell you, no lie.

[Joe]

Damn.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, I got it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I got.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I got a few more tricks for you, boy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That ain't happening. No, absolutely not. Look. Oh, I get it, you know, but look, because behind closed doors, it's all sex.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nobody knows where the nose goes when the toes. When the doors close.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Joe, come on now.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, I get all of that, but I just can't even get consciously with myself. That might be that. Hey, hey, hey, Kevin. That might be what pushed me over, knowing I had some toes in my mouth.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey, you never know what it feel like.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm good. I won't. Some things ain't meant to be experienced. Just try, especially by o'. Shea.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You gotta try it, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nah, I can't do that.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, all right, well, at least get the swing then.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I told you, last wing I was in was in elementary school. No, I'm good. I tell you what. If Joe tried and come back to me, I say I'mma try. What? Try on the toes.

[Joe]

Nah, nah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

If Joe get on them toes, if they good enough, and the toes good enough for Joe. Knowing Joe, old country boy like myself, and he a little younger than me, I said, okay, you know, Joe said,

[Joe]

hey, now, hold up now. My lady got some pretty feet. I told her she might need to start her only fans for a feet now. Hey, I'll keep laughing. I'll laughing over there. Yeah. Hey, Joe, they say, hey, only. Only fans. Billion dollar industry, baby. Gonna throw the feet on there.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, we'll be all right.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, you know, I got. I got the only fans, too, now.

[Joe]

Do you?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah,

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I had an only fan for about three years.

[Joe]

Now you be on there cutting up.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Nah, it just. It's my feet. It's for my feet.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Lord have mercy. I'm just telling you, people pig feet, I gotta say, are made to eat. That's food. I don't know what y' all don't get. Yo, you made. You eat raccoon. You ate. I had to. I didn't really have a choice. I would prefer baby back ribs. I really would have preferred a wagyu or some chicken, but that wasn't available, so I took what was available. Yeah, y' all be. See, y' all make it seem like when I was growing up with you, they make it seem like I had a choice. Like Granny said. Okay, baby, what you want today? You want the steak, you want the fish? Or you want the turtle, the raccoon, the squirrel, the rabbit? You ate whatever hell they cook. I didn't have a choice. It's like. Like we go to the grocery store now, and, you know, you got chicken. You know, okay, chicken. You got drumsticks, you got short thighs, you got breasts. Oh, you know what? Hey, you know what? I think I got a taste for some salmon tonight.

[Joe]

Yeah?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nah, nah. No. You know what? These Cornish hens, they really cheap. They look good. Okay. Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Y' all don't understand.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That wasn't an option. My grandmother never. I've never. I've never heard in all my life growing up until, you know, I got grown within a relationship. My grandmother never asked, baby, what y' all want for dinner tonight, Right? Whatever. She sat on the table. That's what we ate.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

That's what you eat.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And we like. I don't want no tomatoes and rice. She say, do like the people cross the river, do without.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And walk up out the kitchen.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Because I'd hate to this day. I don't like tomatoes. I don't like squash. I don't like okra.

[Joe]

Damn. You don't like okra?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, I don't like okra. Okra, Zucchini. Okra, zucchini and squash. I can't do it, man.

[Joe]

Y' all tripping now.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No. Hell, no.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And hate to cook. I don't know. Have you ever cut okra, Joe?

[Joe]

Yeah, I know the real okra you talking about. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, because you have to wear sleeves because it'll make you whip up.

[Joe]

Are you talking about out there in them fields?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

In the field? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I cut over before there'd be old people say, boy, I'm gonna tear your ass up. You're gonna whip like okra. Because if you go out there with the fields with no sleeves on. Yeah, watch them whips. Yeah, but, guys, I didn't have no choice. I got a choice in the matter. I get it. To each his own. Some people freaky like that suddenly, like, hey, some people, they go to showers, and Ocho like the swings and.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hanging off the bed. I saw this day. They got on Tick Tock with a girl, put a pillow down, and she on the couch, and she laying back and got the lick.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Joe]

Did you purchase?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, I did. I said it. Hey, you could do that. Yeah, but come on, now.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You got it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Y' all do it. Y' all doing too much.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You gotta live a little bit, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yo, I'm living. That ain't living, Ocho, man, come on, now.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You just. Aunt just text again. Tell her. Tell her, get out on a Palmer one time.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Give who?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, yeah, one time.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Come on, huh?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You're going. You're gonna enjoy it. I'm telling you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

We got to draw the lines now.

[Joe]

Oh, he ain't got no line. He don't draw no lines. He don't draw none.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I'm just trying to get you to experience things you never had before, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You try to honor Palmer, Joe?

[Joe]

No, we good over here. We good.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

All right, all right. Don't worry about it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Go ahead. Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead.

[Joe]

Unless he talking about that tea and lemonade. You talk about the tea and lemonade.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

If that's what you want it to be. It can be that.

[Joe]

Okay?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You can pretend it's that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That joker don't color between no lines. But, Kevin, the biggest key is the to not give up. You put one foot in front of the other, and even the. And just remember, sunshine follows rain, even though the Bible says it rained 40 days and 40 nights on the 30 on the 41st day. What happened? That's how you got to look at it, bro. I ain't giving up because I look at it like this. As hard as it's been the last couple of years, think about the first 20 years of your life, Joe. Think about where you came from.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Think about where you came from.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Now, you mean to tell me I'm gonna be deterred? I'm gonna feel defeated after a year after two years, and I spent the first 20 years. Oh, no, no, no, no. Give me the top five. Johnny Taylor song. Big three. I don't.

[Joe]

These.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Who's making love to your old lady? Ain't that Johnny Taylor? What?

[Joe]

Hold on. These last $2. These last $2. I'm not gonna lose. Y' all know that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Joe]

These last two dollars. One go for the bus fair.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Last. Last two dollars.

[Joe]

Let me look.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So, disco lady, move it in, move it out.

[Joe]

Yeah, I don't know about no Johnny. Hey, they used to play that Johnny Taylor in the. In the pool hall back in the day when I used to be in the pool. Yeah, they probably still do.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I ain't been. I ain't been to a. What we. We call them juke joints.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, what you know about that?

[Joe]

Hey, hey, they got. Hey, real talk, though. They got some nice. They got a nice pool hall that I go to out here in Georgia. It's called Mr. Q. Oh, do you. Oh, man, it's old school, too. It give you that feel, that vibe, you know. They got the jukebox in there, so you can put whatever music on. It's up to date. Yeah, they got about 50 pool tables, and they be going down in that thing. Boy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Move it in, move it out. Yeah, disco. Lay that.

[Joe]

I told y', all, man. I'm a real pool shooter. I know y' all just out here talking.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, man, we gonna learn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, nightcap, fam. My question for tonight.

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

just a regular guy.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

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[Jacob Goldstein]

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

that's O-O-O.com is what feels worse, Accidentally scoring in your own basket or getting. Or getting a safety. What's worse, Joe?

[Joe]

I mean, hell, I ain't never played football, but scoring your own basket? Yeah, that's pretty. That's pretty bad. And it can happen easily by just tipping the ball, trying to. You know what I mean?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. You try to grab a rebound and you hit him, go up in there. That's happened. Now what Jim Marshall did was embarrassing. He scooped up a fumble.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And he ran the wrong way. So instead of giving his team and nobody. And he wondered why nobody didn't try to tackle it like, yeah, you good. And then he scored. He throws the ball up and the guy from the other team come and hug him, said, thank you. So, I mean, there's a lot have to go into it if you score a safety for your. For the other team. Because like Joe said, I'm going for a rebound. I'm trying to get the rebound in my hand. Hit it, tip it up, it could go in.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But to get a safety. Yeah. What's up, y'?

[Joe]

All?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

How old were you when you got your first tattoo? And how much do you think you would have spent all together? Uncle, why you never got any ink, love? Joe, how old were you got your first tattoo?

[Joe]

Well, I was. I was in the NBA. I was 22.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Damn. How old was I? And I got my first tattoo. That's a good question. Hey, you know, back tattoo with my daughter's name too. It was Jakira.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So you was in the league or you was in college?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Nah, boy. Hey, shoot up. She 28. 20. 27 now.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

No, she 28. 28. Yeah. I might have been in high school, boy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, she's 27. Oho. If she 27, 28. Oh, she's born in 98.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Then I got in my. My sophomore year in college. Then, yeah, I must have been at Santa Monica. God, that was that long ago.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, if you said 98.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

God damn, I'm old, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

18. So if you do 98, the Elliot 08, that's 10. 08 to 18, that's 20. 18 to 6, that's 18, that's 8. That's 28.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, boy, time moving fast, huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Man, I've only wanted One tattoo. I thought about getting my grandmother's name, and my sister found something where she actually wrote her name, Mary V. Porter. And I tore the page out, and I just remember her saying, boy, she hated tattoos. She said, son, don't mark your body up.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And I thought about it. I said, you know what? As much as an honor it would be, she would be so disappointed. She'd be so disappointed. And I couldn't do it, Joe. I couldn't. Cause all I. All I could do. I just know. I just know my granny and I know she said, son, why you do. Why you mark your body up?

[Joe]

Hey, look, my grandma was saying I made sure. I made sure I could take care of my damn self before I started getting tattooed. Damn that. That's why I tell you, I was in the NBA when I got mine. I was. You know, I was already like two, three years in. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I mean, you know, hey, but my brother. My sister got what? I think my sister got a rose on the ankle or something. My kids got him.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You know, got.

[Joe]

Hold on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

When did they get them? Did they get them early?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. My son got him. He was in college. My daughter tried to sneak and get one. I made a. Whoa, Lord, Joe. Oh, Joe, tell your story, man. Look here. She don't go get attack. I don't know. Chat. What does Rihanna have on her rib cage? So. Because whatever Rihanna got written on her rib cage, Kayla wouldn't got that. I told her that I want to get a tattoo. I said, baby, you can get a tattoo once you get in college. Get a tattoo, man. She couldn't wait.

[Joe]

Yeah,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

man, I saw that. Hey, she had that. Because I guess there's some cream. Yeah, it helps with the speed, the healing.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And I ain't know what it was. I just saw. I just saw the Brock. I just saw the box. And my girlfriend like, what is this? I said, I don't know what that is. That's some Michaela stuff. She's like, do you know what it is? I said, no, I don't know what it's. Because I'm getting annoyed. I get annoyed. I'm sorry, Chad. I get annoyed. Easy. Okay. Is it yours? No, it's not. You know what it is? No, I don't. You should. So I said, no. She said, it's tattoo is something to heal up. Healing of the tattoo. I said, well, I ain't got no damn tattoo. She said, well, you looking at me I ain't got one, boy. Like my granddad used to say, boy, hell flew all through me. Kayla. Sir. Bring you this down here. Let me. I say, bring your ass down here. So she come down there with a bra and prannies on, because I already know she gonna try to cover it up. She walking like she a mummy. I say, kayla, you got a tattoo. Normally, if you ain't gonna try to lie, you gonna say yes or no, see, if you say.

[Joe]

Huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What did you say? You trying to think of a lie?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Come a little closer. You talk about Dad. I can hear you. Cause she already know I want to bust hell out of.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I said, turn to the side, Kayla, because I can kind of see the. A little remnants of it, like. Okay. I said, kayla, turn to the side. Okay, That's okay. So now I gotta drive to school. Because I drove to school every morning. Yeah, every morning I drove Kayla to school and picked her up. So I was, you know, hey. I was.

[Joe]

Hey.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I was, you know, one of them dads wearing carpool line.

[Joe]

Yeah. Oh.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, Kayla, your daddy don't disrespect me. I don't say nothing about your dad. Don't be talking about my dad. So I said, kayla, you ain't got but another three months in school. You couldn't wait three months. But I'm gritting my teeth when I say it.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I said, you know, you're gonna get another popular how? Tattoo removal.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Come on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Found a place. I say, hey. I asked Shelly, you know, that's where Shelly coming at. As a matter of fact, there's a place right up the street. I said, really? How far is it? She said, it's probably like 15 minutes. Book us about eight appointments every week.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, you for real?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I took up there every week. Slot right there. She's screaming. Cause that thing burning.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Ah, Daddy, Daddy. Oh, you ain't called Daddy, right? When you ain't got that tattoo with that man would put that in.

[Joe]

You're right, right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You ain't saying. I bet you ain't say daddy one time. Now you want Daddy? Nah, no can do. No candidate. So we went up there, we got it. I don't know she got it. I don't know what she did with it, what she got. Well, like I said, I said, kayla, once you get. Get to college, I consider. I consider you grown. Once you leave my house. Get you a place. I see. Now I'll get you a place, you know. She's like, well, I want to go. I said, you Need. You really need to kind of, like, go off. Because I know you, Kayla, you gonna want to come in. You won't think, well, I'm grown. You say once I graduate high school, I was grown. And you're gonna want to come in anytime you want to. Yeah, that ain't happening, right?

[Joe]

Facts.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That ain't gonna happen.

[Joe]

Facts. I'm the same way.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nobody have sex here but me. You gonna think you could have sex and have some. Oh, no. I said, okay, don't make me hurt somebody. I said, you need to go. Hey, if you want to go to Georgia Southern with your brother, because he was already in school. Yeah, he started early. Got it. Well, me and Keith. I said, no. Why you think he wanted. I said, you. You. You having sex. He having sex, right? I said, you think he can come in there and you in the room and you and your guy doing what you're doing, and he gonna be okay with that? You know how that boy is about you, right?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

No,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

no, but I. Joe, I get real irritable, man. Me and. I tell you what, man, me and Buck. I almost fell out with Bucky. We in college. We weren't close like we was now. So I'm sitting in my locker, his locker, right by mine. Hey. Hey, Sharp. You hear what happened? I was like, nah. What happened? You ain't here. I said, no, no, I ain't here. What happened, man, ain't nobody. So now, I said, man, I told you. Ain't nobody told me. I don't know what happened. What happened, man? I can't believe you ain't here. You sure ain't nobody that told you. I said, bucket. I said, because at the time, his name was Fuzz. Everybody called him Fuzz. I said, fuzz, bro. I don't know what happened, man. I said, I've been down here in my locker. He say, man, may you show. I said, man, I don't even want to hear, man, go here. He said, man, old boy caught his. Caught his girl with somebody else in the dorm.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I say, what? What? He said, yeah, man. It was a big old. It was a big old thing going on down there. I say, man. I said, oh, Sharp. I said, oh, did he? You know me. Hey, you know me. Don't tell me that. I don't need to know that. You on the team.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And somebody did that. So you know me. I go to it. I said, well, damn you. That old boy, he ain't even on the team. You let him get it. Let me get some. Ah, man, come on, Sean, come on. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now you want to fight me? I ain't do it. He did you invite him? Whoa, whoa, slow down. So you know me. Ain't nobody ate a whole lot of people in the locker. So you know what I'm gonna do? I gotta wait till we get to stretching. Cause everybody there.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I said, well, God, dog, I said, you might want to turn your boy on. He get up out of line. He get out because he at the back. Cause you know, I'm the captain. And then, you know, he start us and go all the way back to the back. So he in the back. He get up out the back and walk up and he's standing up over me. I said, boy, if you don't get your ass back in line, I say, I tell you what. I bet you if I stand up, this issue ain't gonna be pretty, bro. Go on and walk it off. Cause you let that man do all that, but now you want to try to tussle with me, man, let that go. Nah, I can't let it go. I' ma let it go once we don't got all our laughs in, boy. Hey, anytime that. Hey, what's up?

[Joe]

Oh, man, come on, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You know Joe Ojo, you know, you can't let us find out anything, especially nothing like that. No, siree.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Especially nothing like that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, sir. Hey, that's.

[Joe]

Hey, that's cut, though. The man already going through it.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, yeah, Them jokes.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I gotta put it through it some more.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Jokes gonna fly joke.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They gonna have a regard. Like I'm saying, if you. If you could. If you go to a black college. If you can't. Joan.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Don't even done.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You done. Don't even. Don't even register.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Don't even go. Don't go. Joe, I'm telling you, I don't saw a lot of fights happen because, you know, hey, you know how the other hands fall for the game.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

See, the problem is, is that you don't get mad at the guy, Jon. You. You get mad at Oo. Laughing?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Laughing.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What you laughing at? I ain't say nothing. I'm just laughing.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Now you want to tussle because you think. Oh, you think Ocho, easy cut a dude joining you. Oh, no, no. But that's how it was.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Good day?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nah, man, I can't get no ink, okay? Not now. It's too late now. The only thing I ever wanted was an earring.

[Joe]

It ain't too late.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, it is too late, man. I'm damn near 60. What I look like getting a ring? Age ain't nothing but a number, man.

[Joe]

Hey, hold on. What kind of area you looking for? I got you, bro. What kind of earring you looking for? No, you ain't. You got your ears big.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey, Joe. My God. I got both, man. I ain't had no earrings since I played, bro. You know, I had a little. Stars from Claire's.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, man, I'm. I'm. I got some upstairs.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I wanted one. My mom said, when you get out, when you graduate high school, you can get it. I ain't want it then because all my friends had already started getting. They started getting a ninth. 10th grade. 11th grade. They get in the ears. I was like, damn you, man. I called Mama. Granny say, I told granny, I want an earring. She said, boy, call your mama. Mama said, boy, I come down there and beat your ass. Yeah. No. No earring for the kid. And so did you take it personal when Danny Fairy traded you to Brooklyn and was you blindsided by the trades?

[Joe]

Did I take it personal? At first? Not really. Soon as he got the job. Uncle Ocho, I'm talking about as soon as he got the job, I was the first person who he traded. So I never got to talk to him. I never. Me and him never had a conversation. It was none of that, you know, it was like he signed on the dotted line. He kind of already had a play for me. But the thing that was crazy is that I had my homeboy who was playing on the summer league team. So I'm still coming into the arena every day, and I see him every day, but he don't say nothing to me. I don't say nothing to him. I ain't. You know, I ain't pissed off, you know, it is what it is, part of the business, you know? Ain't nobody untradable. I understood that part, but he never. He never told me, you know. He never told me nothing, bro. Me and him never even spoke. I seen him on countless occasions,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

and then. And then he ended up getting fired because he said that stuff about.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. So. I don't know, man. You know.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, so you ain't got no ears pierced? I'm looking. You. Oh, you let them close up?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Nah. Yeah, they probably close up right now. Hey, not just. I just stick something back through there. It open up.

[Joe]

Oh, no.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You know I like needles.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Huh?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I do. I got. I got 47 tattoos I don't care nothing about. No. A little needle going through the air.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Man, my sister pierced my cousin. Them ears and a sewing needle. Okay.

[Joe]

She kind of froze it a little bit. Got it?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yep.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, put. Put some heat on it first, you know.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, dad, we ain't know nothing about no gun. Nothing about that. Burn, burn. One of my grandma's sewing needles. Put ice cubes on that thing, let that thing numb and stuck it right through there. Got the broom straw, burnt both ends, put it in there, let the broom straw stand there for about a week. And then you went. Got some. Some hoops on some studs.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, look. Damn, man, I went to Claire's. Got that little gold ball in there.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey, me. Hey, Joe, me and you too.

[Joe]

Hey, hey. Hell, that little teddy bear, tight as a ball, you hear me?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Wow.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

People talking about bad soy needle, ice cube, man, what you. Hold on. I don't know what y' all think they gonna use. That's how people. That's how people pierce their ears. Back then, it wasn't. No. I mean, the guns came along later, but it wasn't no guns. You got a sewing needle or a safety pin? What it called, Bobby? No safety pins. Just. Yeah, just one of them pins that you hook.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You get your clothes? Yeah, one of big ones. Burn it, let that thing numb up. Push it right through.

[Joe]

Damn.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, There was some good day. Good memories, boy. Good memories, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

As a father who was. Who has a demanding job on the road a lot to being a pro athlete, what advice would you give to be the best father while providing it's.

[Joe]

It's challenging, boy.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Very.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Very.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

It's a little easier now, though.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Not for him. When he seems like he has on the road a lot. So that means, I guess he's a truck driver or something that requires him to be away from home, right? Just when you're present, you got to be present.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

When you say you're going to do something, you got to be able to do it. And sometimes you have to, like, okay, I'll do that. Something comes up and then you like. You know, I know I probably could use the money, but once you tell them a kid that you're gonna do something, especially after you're away, you got to be there.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You got to do it.

[Joe]

Because they don't forget.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They don't.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

No.

[Joe]

Hey, hey. Them kids got memories like elephants, boy, I'm talking about. Hey, anything you say, they're gonna hold on to it and remember it.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You gotta have them uncomfortable conversations, too.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yep.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Kids, you know, at that age, whatever age they are at understanding, you know what your job entails, and it has your way for long, long periods of time. So they have a better understanding of what's going on, even though they might not understand it. But just having that uncomfortable conversation with them.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Will help out a lot.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It's hard, and I. I don't care. Even the most devout fathers, they're gonna miss something. You're gonna miss some recitals because guess what? You got practice.

[Joe]

Yep.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You're gonna miss some PTAs because you're gonna be away. It's just. It's just a part. And hopefully you've explained it to your partner, and she understands that that's a part of your job. And she's going to have to be mom and dad a lot, especially early on. I mean, think about. Think about it now. LeBron has been in the league 20 years. That's longer than Brownie's been alive. How many things did you think he's missed but when he had an opportunity to get there.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Even if it meant. You know what, hey, I'm. I'm gonna catch up. I'm gonna rent the jet. I'm gonna go see Bronnie, and I'll meet y' all there. Everybody doesn't have that luxury. And you have to make sacrifices, but, you know, you got to put bread on the table. You gotta. You gotta feed a family. You got to do what you got to do. You gotta do what you got to do. But I just said the only thing I would tell you, bro, is that be available the best way you can. Because everybody's being available is different. Different. So don't look. Well, hey, X, Y, and Z. His parents are there or xy, and that happened. No, you be there the best way you can, but at the end of the day, you got to provide. You got to put a roof over his head. You got to put food on the table. You got to take care of your family. So I commend you. Thanks for the. Don't play with my name. I'll post you up. Y' all see? Y' all see who that came from?

[Joe]

Who was that?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Somebody got Domination 5.

[Joe]

That was it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

For real. No, they need to take that D and put a B in front of it. A hallucination. Man kills on Ocho. Do you realize OKC didn't start really beating the Lakers until the fourth quarter every game? Luca gives you 30, 35 a night. It would have been different, Ocho. It would have been different.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, my God.

[Joe]

Hey, look, that's all I'm saying, bro. I am.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's all we saying, Ocho.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

All right, you know what, y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

All right, y'.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

All. Y' all say, okay.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah. If Luca played, you know, beating the defendant champs, you had a better chance of beating the defending champs. I got you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You think so?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hell, no.

[Joe]

I'm just saying it would have been.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It would.

[Joe]

The games would have been a little better. They probably would have won a couple

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

uncultured J. I see you got my boy Anderson Pack on Club Shay. Shay. He's probably my favorite music artist right now. I requested him on Discord also earlier this year, so glad to see it come to fruition. Yeah, it was great. It was great sitting down to him. I told him, I'm gonna catch him when him. And who's the guy, Ocho? Bruno Mars.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Bruno.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Woohoo. I told him, I' ma catch him. I'll catch you. So hopefully, hey, hopefully, y' all enjoy it, because, you know, every time I have somebody, why you got this person on there? Have somebody like this here on there? Have somebody that's uplifting the culture, I say, well, you can start your own podcast and have whoever you want. Well, I ain't got no platform. Well, how the hell you. In my comments. You do realize if you in somebody's comments, you got a platform. I just didn't look up at the sky and see you rolling in the sky.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, that's a good one. The hell that's a good one.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So hopefully that I like. I like Addison, man. I like Suki. I mean, Ocho, when you get down, when you get an opportunity to sit down and really, like, talk to people and really get a chance to see.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And she. Man, she had me crying.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

It give you a different perspective.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It does. I mean, to sit down and talk to Glorilla and talk to Meg the Stallion and talk to Kiki Palmer and to talk to a lot of these people that I never, never would have been able to talk to had I not had this platform, Right? But, man, like, I say, glow. Glow. One of my favorite. She was absolutely one of my favorite.

[Joe]

But bad Suki, she cut up, didn't you, man?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Man, Joe. And people like, man, Uncle. I was like, bro, you do realize I'm not used to hearing people talk like this in real life. I mean, we talk a certain way, but I do not. Women.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I do it all the time, but I'm.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Ocho, think about it. We don't hear women. Women talk.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I mean, she talk about. Oh, yeah. They don't see my.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, yeah, yeah. She wide open. She's wide open with it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I said, lord have mercy. Yo, I just. Hey. I just start rubbing my hands.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, you got nightcap? Homegirl in Rome called. What you do? You got nightcap, but homegirl in Rome called. She doesn't. She was just. She happened to be over there. She was from America. She just happened to be over there studying because she was a. She was getting a degree in business and language and so.

[Joe]

Say you had to get over there.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Volleyball player, was she? 5 8, I think. 162. 5 8, 5 9. 162. I'm talking about legs. I'm talking about slit down the leg, Teardrop

[Joe]

jizz.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Not low. What do you know, Ocho? Do you realize that I interrupted a week of my training? Yeah.

[Joe]

No.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Just for that,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

boy. Like Ray Charles. Hit the road, Jack. No more. I hit the road.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, boy. Hey, that's a special one there, boy,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

because y' all know them volleyball players. Y' all know how they built. I ain't telling y' all nothing. I ain't telling y' all nothing. Y' all don't already know.

[Joe]

They already know.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

That's a special one to be able to take that trip as as disciplined as you are when it comes to training.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But I got my traded in, Ocho. I got my traded in. When I got there, she had a gym already lined up. Okay, okay. The family, they was cooking. I mean, we went out a couple of times, but a family was cooking. But, you know, they cook it because I wanted to try some. I was in. I was in Italy.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

She was staying with a family, so I wanted to taste Noki, and I wanted to taste. They making everything handmade, right? And all that stuff. I was like, well, damn.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

But, Dan, you done met the family and all.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, it wasn't her family. She stayed. She was staying with a family in it. Oh, abroad.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Okay. Okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I was gonna say. Damn, you were locked in.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Obviously. But I'm saying.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I was like, okay, yeah. Back in the day now.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You know how they had them signs up? We'll. Y' all know what my sign said? I ain't gotta say it, but you know what he said?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Y' all don't. Y' all don't want to tell me, but I know, Ocho, I know you don't win. I know, Joe. You know, back in the day when you were younger, Joe, I know you travel.

[Joe]

I didn't travel. But I ain't.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I ain't go that far.

[Joe]

Not for some hoo ha. I ain't travel that far for the hoo ha.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You done travel. You done left the state with some. With some.

[Joe]

With me.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No. To go get something to go get.

[Joe]

Oh, no, I ain't never did that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, you ain't. So. You ain't so everything you've been. So you ain't never. So Florida. So you ain't never went to, like, Georgia or. Or California or. Or Texas.

[Joe]

Oh, that's different. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No different. I say you travel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

O children done that too. He can. You better stop lying if you come by. He never done that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Who.

[Joe]

If she was in a different state, you'd have been to a different state, man.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Man, now you better come to me, man. I'm book your flight, Joe. What are you talking about?

[Joe]

I don't like.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, Joe. I don't like to go nowhere right now. Still to this day. You think I'm flying for some damn who I. When I can get some right here in Miami.

[Joe]

In your early 20s, Ocho?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hell no. With what money? You was in the league, Ocho.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, uncle. Yo, camera.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, I went out.

[Joe]

Hey.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, man. Hey, this. No, especially. Especially when I was in the league. You definitely flying to me. I got.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I got.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Got me a little pocket change, too.

[Joe]

So what about. What about in the off season, though?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You got.

[Joe]

You got a little something.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You.

[Joe]

You know what I mean?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, you coming to Miami?

[Joe]

Oh, man.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, you know, that's dangerous, man. You ain't going to nobody.

[Joe]

I ain't

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

to the win.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, you don't know what they got going on. Nah, I'm good, man. And. And I was. And I was the other. I was number two with number three back then, too. Hell, I ain't flying to nobody.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I ain't know. I ain't know what I was. I just went.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I made it clear.

[Joe]

He said he didn't know what he. Hey. Oh, you just going with the flow. I'm like, hey, hey. I'm just going with the flow, man. Hey, we having a good time.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Do you think Aiden would be a good center for my Celtics? Yeah, y' all should try him out.

[Joe]

Yeah, he probably wouldn't be bad. For real. While you playing over in the east, the west is too. It's too much in the west, bro. Tell me they should try him out.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. You know. Yeah, that.

[Joe]

That was.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That was them with the days, guys. Yeah, G A Funny how time just lifts all the Way, see, that's why I couldn't hang with O.O. see, OO. O.O. ain't no fun. He don't like to travel.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, listen, my fun don't have nothing to do with traveling, boy.

[Joe]

They had something to do with.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, okay, okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, they go.

[Joe]

Okay, okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, I put it on the road. Hey, go to Florida, you know. Hey, I hit the road. South Carolina. I hit the road now, back in the day. Not now, not now, not now.

[Joe]

I already know I'm cutting up.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, Boy, I was. Turn me loose.

[Joe]

Ocho was, you know, ain't no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Huh? What'd you say, Joe?

[Joe]

I said Ocho was. He was cutting up, too.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I know.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, Ocho.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, you know, I did a little something.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I know, but. But. But look, we all talking past tense. That's not who we are now. It's got. That's out of my system. System side of my system.

[Joe]

Yeah,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

but somebody said. But why? Want to be normal? I am normal. I am normal. I mean, I might have some. Some idiosyncrasies that, you know, load the dishwasher back to front. Don't leave, you know, cups and things in the. In the. In the sink. Yeah, yeah, that's a pet peeve of mine, too. Oh, Joe, you don't just load the dishwasher front to back, do you?

[Joe]

Front to back?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nah, blow the dishwasher back to front.

[Joe]

No, no, no, I don't do that. I'm sorry, I don't.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You open the dishwasher just to check. No, I. It. It ticks me off. Why you do that? Oh, Joe, you load it front to back so you know what's in there. So. Oh, my goodness. Man, this joker here, You know, ain't no place in the world like la. The only place Braun is going ahead and close that thing out in Cleveland. Cleveland. I just don't see it. I just don't see. I just don't see Cleveland.

[Joe]

You don't see it. It's hard to see him leaving la. Seriously, What you say, ojo?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I mean, it was hard to envision him leaving Cleveland. He left, didn't he?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, it wasn't that hard. Because the thing is, is that. They couldn't get anybody to come join him in Cleveland. He know. Look at this. Come on, now. Look at that team. Look at that team that he took to the fight his last year there, Joe. He had no business getting that. He had no business getting that team out of the first round. Damn. The second round, the Easter Conference. He had no business Getting that team out of the first round.

[Joe]

Nah, but he elevated everybody's play, bro. He did that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Ant man, Juana man, Sandman, the Taliban, spurs and six.

[Joe]

Come on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Ojo, ISO, what are your thoughts on Darren Peterson having cramps from too much creatine? It'll do it. They advise you take creatine, drink a lot of water. It won't water. And it's gonna pull it from somewhere.

[Joe]

You got to. Hey, hey, look, and you know what? It's crazy because I never took creatine until I got to college, too. You know, they try to put a little weight on you. Yeah, when you get to college. But I ain't experienced that, though.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, I. I took it. I took a lot. I took it. But I drank. I mean, I was drinking probably 3 to 4 of those 1.5 liter bottles of water a day.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, now, it'll put some weight on you now if you do it right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But I was who? You see that? You see that, Ocho?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, we about the same people. Hey, we about the same size now.

[Joe]

Come on, man.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, Joe, I'm rocked up.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, I see.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So you could, Joe. So now you know when I was what, 20, 20 in my 20s. Can you imagine when I was 20, my 20s and 30s. They want to see O'. Shea. They want to see old shape.

[Joe]

They want to see not long.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, sir. Re what? It's on the eight. That gonna be my husband right there. I would like that for real, though.

[Joe]

I believe, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I believe oo been 165 his whole life.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I'm 205 right now. Hey, you seen me carrying that weight around out there today?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, wait, you carried around, don't you?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

No, you saw it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm trying to figure out what you carry.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

All right? Matter of fact, I'll make sure y' all got some extra clips tomorrow.

[Joe]

What's wrong with this, man?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Bro, I'm just. I'm just telling you, Joe, I'm telling you, boy. Joe, when I get in front of you, hey. And I slide these puppies, you gonna slide on him. Hey, hey. He don't understand.

[Joe]

And I hit you. Hey, hey, hey. And I hit you with this big ass shoulder. How shapey hitting them boys out there, Joe?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I'm not worried about that. I may absorb that contact and I'm gonna be right there. I'm gonna anchor down. Joe, that don't do nothing.

[Joe]

You can't absorb.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You acting like you talking to some rookie or something.

[Joe]

Hey, you can't absorb the contact and still Contest. You gonna have to do one or the other, you feel me?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Joe, you ain't gonna tell me what I'm gonna be able to do.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Okay?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I'm not none of them other people you be playing at the ymca, boy.

[Joe]

Yeah, okay.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You hear me, boy? Okay. Yeah.

[Joe]

Well, I promise you, you gonna keep my name out your damn mouth, I tell you that.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

They called me the ISO stopper, boy.

[Joe]

All right?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

The ISO Stop Jordan.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, what's up? This. See this what? Old 54 year old look like what you call. Go zoom it in. That's 54, Joe.

[Joe]

You weren't messing around with your man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's two. That's. Joe. That's 252 pounds, Joe.

[Joe]

Damn.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey, don't make me come up out this shirt.

[Joe]

That boy was yoked up. What?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey, Joe, don't. Hey, don't make me come up out this shirt.

[Joe]

Yeah. Hey, hey. You died and everything was right one.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, Joe. Yeah, Joe, I got to get my discipline back so I can. So I could. What you call them? Yeah, I don't want to look like that. That's too much.

[Joe]

You said that's too much. It's too much work, huh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Too much mental stress.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, it's working. Then ain't nobody want to be with you because, like, you ain't going nowhere. You ain't eating nothing.

[Joe]

Hey, you be irritable and all that, though.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You do. You do, Joe. I ain't gonna hold you. You do. So. So I was like, nah, I'm good, but I gotta lose. I'm gonna get down to like two. I'm gonna get down to 45. I get down to 45 like it ain't nothing. It's something. I mean, I'm on that bike. I'm on that bike all the time now.

[Joe]

Yeah. What you doing, about 45 minutes?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, I do 45, but I'm going. All I'm doing. I'm going. I'm going all out.

[Joe]

Well, your heart, you got. You keep up with your heart rate and all that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I used to. I'm gonna start back wearing a heart rate monitor. I'm gonna start back wearing it. But I go. I was. I'm doing on the concept bike, the erg.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I go for. I've got to. I can get 20. I go like a little under 15 miles in 45 minutes.

[Joe]

Damn. Oh, yeah. You chucking.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. If your front office man got a man named Jerry run.

[Joe]

I know.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Damn, Joe. They say you need to run if your front office not goddamn.

[Joe]

Yeah, they got chill. They gotta chill, and

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I don't know. It ain't looking good for y', all, Joe.

[Joe]

What you mean?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They said. They said. But y', all, you know. Yeah, we're gonna see what y' all gonna do. Y' all got picked back. Y' all got cd. Dak dak. No off season surgery. So, you know, I'm gonna see what y' all gonna put down.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. We should get off to a good start. We got the Giants open up. We're gonna probably. We're gonna probably blow the doors off them, boy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Damn. Ojo, you heard Joe say they gonna blow the dose off the Giants.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey, you know what? I'm not even gonna disrespect Joe and them Cowboys. We know what they say. Every season it's the same thing. Same. Same.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nothing happened.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Nah.

[Joe]

Hey, look, I'm just telling you what I feel. Considering what the Giants kind of went through with some of the top guys. Yeah, we should get off to a damn good start. All right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

We open up. We open up with Kansas City. Oh, we. I think we got Kansas City. Don't we got Kansas City.

[Joe]

Ash Ocho, who y' all open up with?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I'm not sure who we open up with. I know we play in Madrid week.

[Joe]

Falcons, who they open up with?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Lost.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, don't y' all open up a Kansas City. Yeah, okay. Loss.

[Joe]

Let me see.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, you think so? No, we got Joe Ocho, you know, we got Kansas City number. Now, Joe, you know, we had that Ocho for. Oh, yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Loss.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They kind of leaked. They kind of leaked a little stuff. How is LeBron considered to go with all these times he's been swept in the finals and the playoffs?

[Joe]

Other.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Other than longevity. Kobe, Steph never swept in the finals.

[Joe]

Hold on. My bad. Say it again.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Made the playoffs. Oh, they said how long. So Kobe. The playoffs, his last four or five years. Did Kobe make the playoffs his last four years? Nah,

[Joe]

I think when he went out. When he went out with that. What? He had 62 that night.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

The 60 point his final game.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Because I think Kobe, when he. When he tore his Achilles, he was trying to make the. Trying to make the. Trying to make the playoffs that year. That's why, you know.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

The last four years. So Kobe missed the playoffs his last four years. Yeah, but we ain't gonna talk. Look this. Look, we. We're on a happy time. We don't move past that. We'll talk about that. A little late time. What's up? Fellas love the show. Been tuning in for about a year, but never gave you props. M appreciate that support, guys. Really, really appreciate it. Bruno Mars or the weekend Ravens? Dead Crosby. Dirty Cowboys will beat the Bingles. Ocho, Chad, please.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I mean, look, weekend got some stuff.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, both of them got his boy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

They do.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

But we talk about two different artists.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It's just that Bruno. Entertainment factor.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah. Two different artists, two different sounds. I mean, it's almost hard to compare the two, didn't it?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What we can say ever since I was. I was legit. Don't you sing that song. What Weekend he got a big song. Probably got like 5, 10 billion views. Now. Y' all talking about. Oh, Kobe wasn't the GM. LeBron ain't the GM. You see? You see the buddy boy? You see how they keep moving the gold pool? Cowboys play the Bengals this year, Ocho?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I don't think so.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh. Cause that's gonna be an L. They

[Joe]

ain't want this smoke.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, telling the album the Poke High story. Nah, bro. Ain't no Poke county stories here. Hey, bro, hold on. Talk about Joe. Do they realize that I've been to Pro Football hall of Fame?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

We talk about them. Wait, we talked a Pro Football hall of Fame ain't got nothing to do with them. 52 points you scored in Joe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oo. I'm telling you, I was a bet. If you go ask anybody in Glenville, they will tell you I was a better basketball player than a football player. Oo. I got one trophy in four years of high school football. I was the MVP my senior year. That's the only trophy that I got.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I ain't buying it until I see some footage.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Go ask anybody that went to Savannah State from 86 to 19.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I need. I need footage.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Ask about. Ask about the Juice. I guarantee you, everybody know. Don't nobody know who other teams were. But everybody know about the Juice Crew. All star featuring. Who are they featuring? Ocho. Oh, my goodness.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, I'm.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, I'm still in that name tomorrow. I'm still in that name tomorrow.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Nightcap. I've heard enough. This gonna be too far. Forget the one on ones. ISO vs. Ocho in a Texas bull rope match, man. Oh, yo don't know about no Texas bull rope match. That's WWE style.

[Joe]

Bull rope.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Take his bull rope match. See, they had. They had a steel cage match. They had the Texas bull road match. They had. What the hell?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, we need to just fight. We need to fight with brass knuckles on.

[Joe]

That's cool, man. Hey, hey, have it. I'll let you pick, partner.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Whatever you want to pick, huh?

[Joe]

Whatever you want to pick here. Because he the one gonna be getting hitting upside his damn head. I don't know. What do you think this is?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I'm definitely not getting hit.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Bing, Bing. Do y' all think the Los Angeles Lakers problem is actually roster construction or LeBron's greatness spoiling organization into thinking there's always one move away? Look, a lot of times when you great, you think that, hey, I just make a little simple move. Those days are over, Joe. Ocho. I think they're over. Let me know what you think, Joe.

[Joe]

For the Lakers?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

For any team. I don't. I think when you look at it, the way these teams are constructed, you look at Boston, you look at the Knicks, you look at the spurs, you look at okc.

[Joe]

I think anywhere Bronco, I think so deep now. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

These teams go eight, nine, legit deep. And everybody on those teams gonna get minutes on any other roster. They're gonna get minutes. Hey, I know Jordan Johnson's gonna get minutes. Mitchell and Caruso and those guys and Wallace, those guys that come off the beach, they're gonna get minutes on any other roster.

[Joe]

You know why? Because these are two way guys. All them two way guys,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Sir Cates, my guys, Ocho, Unk. I know it's early, but who has the most approved this upcoming season? Burrow, Allen, Dak, I. So what team do you see my tar here brother Caleb Wilson going to in the draft? Burrow needs to prove he can stay healthy. Josh Allen needs to prove he can win the big game when it matters the most. And Dak got to get the team past the damn going to get him to the championship. Everybody got something to prove. Yeah, because as a matter of fact, everybody's put up numbers. Josh Allen is one of the mvp. Joe Burrows went to a Super Bowl. Dak is thrown for a gazillion yards.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

So what we talking about? Everybody has individual accolades, but last I checked, football is a team sport. They're gonna have to get their teams to the ultimate prize, the ultimate finish line. Everybody believe they've made the move. Look at Buffalo has changed their coat. Ocho, I told you that, remember? I told you you said he was gonna be a problem this season. I said, ocho bet he gotta win. They can't. That closeness Burrow has been. Look, he got his guys back. Ocho say they've done a great job. He loved the additions that they made defensively.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, huge.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

The Cowboys they say, hey, we got rid of Michael and we turned that into Quinny Williams. We turned that into what's the Clark. We turned that the drop the draft picks. Now it's time to go get it. Yes sir, it's time to go get it. It's really, it's really that simple. No more excuses, right? Thank you guys for joining us. The San Antonio spurs take a 32 lead thanks to a 12697 victory over the Timberwolves. And Victor, when Miyama, he made up for that big ejection in Game 4. 27 points, 17 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 big blocks plus 24, the highest plus minus in the game along with D Aaron Fox. Thank you guys for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc and that is my partner and co host, Liberty City Zone. The bingo ring of fame artery. The matting ratings adjuster. A former Pro Bowler and an all Pro, he's Chad Ocho, Cinco Johnson and the third member of the Big three, a seven time NBA all star from the University of Arkansas from the Atlanta Hawks, ISO, Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support because none of this is possible without you. We don't, we don't care where we are. We don't have the praise, we don't have the adulation without your support. So again, from the Nightcap family, thank you. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by Laportier head over to laportiercognac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is a premium VSOP Cognac, the best tasting, smoothest VSOP Cognac on the market. And it drinks like an XO. Remember, we have two sizes. The OG which is the 750, and the Junior which is the 375. Same great quality, same great taste, same smoothness. Please wreck responsibly and stay safe. Again, the San Antonio spurs are one win away from facing the OKC Thunder in the Western Conference Finals thanks to Victor Wembanyama, 27 points, 17 rebounds, 5 assists and 3 blocks. He came back with a vengeance and he led them to a 29 point victory, 126 to 97. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm unk He's Ocho, he's ISO. We'll see you tomorrow night after the Cavaliers, Pistons, Sa.

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