Nightcap Hour 3: Q and Ayyyyy

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 3: Q and Ayyyyy

Date: April 9, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad ‘Ocho’ Johnson, Joe “ISO” Johnson
Episode Theme: Interactive Nightcap Q&A with Fans

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Episode Overview

This hour closes the evening’s “Nightcap” with a dynamic, candid Q&A, featuring fan video messages and live chat questions answered by the trio. The conversation weaves through sports stories, personal philosophies, culture, and relationships, carrying the relatable, unfiltered Club Shay Shay style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Q&A Segment Kickoff

[03:09]

• The trio welcomes listeners to the closing Q&A session, setting a loose and playful tone.

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2. Kevin Garnett Story from Joe Johnson

[03:38 – 05:59]

• Fan asks Joe for a Kevin Garnett story.

• Joe recalls a post-game moment when Serge Ibaka nervously asked KG to train with him in the summer. KG snapped at Ibaka:

  "KG went off on him, man. Get your bum ass away from me... KG a great dude, but if you ain’t on his team, he gonna treat you like something on the bottom of his shoe."
  – Joe Johnson [05:45]

• Insight: KG is fiercely loyal but ruthless to opponents.

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3. "Start, Bench, Cut" – NFL Legends

[04:23; 26:06]

• Fan challenge: Start, bench, or cut – Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, Jerry Rice (earlier) / Christian Okoye, Eric Dickerson, Barry Sanders (later).
• Consensus:
  • Barry Sanders: Start
  • Eric Dickerson: Bench
  • Christian Okoye: Cut
    – All hosts [26:08]

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4. Laportier Box Joke

[06:23 – 07:31]

• Playful “beef” erupts over who received original Laportier cognac packaging, turning into running jokes about "boxing" until the host receives a box.

• "At 5’7”, 143 [pounds], he ain’t got a snowball’s chance in hell.”
  – Unc [07:24]

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5. Cussing and Respect in the Family

[07:51 – 14:43]

• Listener Dalia (Capricorn) discusses raising kids and cussing around parents despite being from a religious household.

• Joe: His kids might cuss elsewhere, never in front of him; grew up respecting elders.

• Ocho: Cursing is forbidden around him, regardless of kids’ age; emphasizes respect tied to parental authority.

  "They're grown, but when they need money, guess what? Their grown ass coming and ask me for money."
  – Ocho [10:17]

• Unc: Raised by a church-going grandmother who could cuss with the best; stresses boundaries and generational respect.

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6. High School Sports Memories

[15:01 – 17:40]

• Fan from Pine Bluff, AR, reminisces about Joe Johnson’s high school games and rivalry matches.
• Unc shares detailed recollections of state championship games, rivalries, and community buzz.

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7. Tallest NFL Player Debate

[18:56 – 19:54]

• Question: Who was the tallest NFL player they encountered?
• Noted names:
  • Jonathan Ogden (6'9"), Dan McGwire (6'8"), Brock Osweiler (6'7”+).
    – Discussion, laughter about quarterbacks not living up to their height.

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8. Start/Bench/Cut – RBs

[26:06 – 26:19]

• Quick-fire NFL debate. Affection for Barry Sanders’ game is unanimous.

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9. Biggest Lost Relationships

[27:36 – 31:59]

• Viewer wants to hear about “the baddest one you lost and was it your fault?”

• Joe:

  “It's always my fault.”
  – Joe Johnson [28:02]

• All agree on personal accountability, temptation, and learning from youthful mistakes:

  "When you get a little older, you cut the chase out... back in our 20s and 30s, out there chasing a dog, chasing a cat."
  – Unc [30:01]

• Ocho admits he’d have kids earlier to avoid relationship drama.

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10. Being a Hunter by Nature

[32:24 – 33:42]

• Discussion about men being “natural hunters,” with laughter about taming versus being tamed in relationships.
• Highlights the pull between discipline, options, and societal expectations.

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11. Fatherhood, Absent Fathers, and Forgiveness

[56:53 – 62:55]

• Fan asks Ocho about his relationship with his father.

• Powerful moments as all hosts recount growing up without a consistent father figure.

• Both Unc and Joe learned to be fathers by striving not to repeat the absence they experienced.

  "Not having one taught me how to be one."
  – Unc [57:21]

• They note regret over not sharing careers with their dads, but focus on moving forward:

  “We ain’t got to talk about why you weren’t there. We're going to start right here, and we're going this way.”
  – Ocho [62:09]

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12. Fun with Audience Prompts and Jokes

[41:16; 41:52; 56:43]

• Fans crack inside jokes (e.g., “Toothpicks” for dental X-rays).
• Banter about pool playing, skating, and good-natured ribbing over crowns and who’s “anointed by the people.”

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13. Sport They Would Least Like to Officiate

[52:10 – 54:29]

• All quickly agree: Hockey, because fighting is rampant and skating is tough.

  “Hockey? Hell yeah. Cause you mess around and punch me now, now we got the square.”
  – Joe [52:33]

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14. Athletes as “Hunters”: Masculine Urges vs. Discipline

[38:36 – 39:20]

• Ocho and Unc reflect on the difficulties of resisting temptation, especially for men of means and status.

  “Everything we’re taught is counterproductive to what human nature is... We always look back and see the same mistakes.”
  – Ocho [38:36]

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15. Best Player They’ve Played Against / Hardest Hits

[41:59 – 44:00]

• Unc: The LeBron Heat team was “different,” calls LeBron a “handful.”
• Ocho: Recalls brutal NFL hits by Brian Russell and Gary Jones—split his facemask.

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16. Relationship Dilemma: Social vs. Physical Connection

[44:22 – 46:39]

• Fan: Should I pick the woman with strong social, but weak physical attraction, or vice versa?
• Ocho:

  “Choose the woman that likes you, not the woman you like.” [44:58]

• The trio emphasize the importance of compatibility and genuine liking over just looks or just comfort.

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17. On Mindfulness & Maintaining Mental Edge

[66:03 – 67:34]

• Fan asks how they maintained/improved their minds amidst busy athlete schedules.
• Yoga is Unc’s anchor; Ocho did yoga and Pilates but struggles to turn his mind off.

  “It’s like my daily vitamin... makes you stronger, bro.”
  – Unc [67:14]

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18. Closing Sports Hot Takes: NBA Legacy Debates

[68:03 – 73:50]

• Spirited, classic Ocho/Unc debate about LeBron, KD, and superteams.
• Ocho argues, as he’s done for years, that KD’s joining the 73-win Warriors is a different move than LeBron’s transitions, explains rare franchises and MVP stats:

  “There’s only been one unanimous MVP in NBA history. Not Jordan. Not LeBron. One – Steph Curry.”
  – Ocho [71:35]

• Defense of LeBron’s career accomplishments and impact.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On KG:

  “If you ain’t on his team, boy, he gonna treat you like something on the bottom of his shoe.”
  – Joe Johnson [05:59]

• On respect and cussing:

  “I know they drink. They were drinking in college. I got no problem. But they’re not going to curse in front of me. I don’t give a damn how grown they are.”
  – Ocho [10:17]

• On life lessons from absent fathers:

  “Not having one taught me how to be one... when I started having kids, it was no way in hell I was gonna let them be running around here, and I ain’t in their life.”
  – Unc [57:21]

• On relationship choices:

  "Choose the woman that likes you, not the woman you like."
  – Ocho [44:58]

• On natural temptation:

  “Everything we’re taught is counterproductive to what human nature is... We always look back and see the same mistakes.”
  – Ocho [39:20]

• On sports officiating:

  “Hockey? Hell yeah. Cause you mess around and punch me now, now we got to square.”
  – Joe Johnson [52:33]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Kevin Garnett Story: [03:38 – 05:59]
• Cussing Around Family: [07:51 – 14:43]
• NBA/LeBron-KD Debate: [68:03 – 73:50]
• Fatherhood Reflections: [56:53 – 62:55]
• Biggest Lost Relationships: [27:36 – 31:59]
• Pool Crowd/Jokes: [50:39 – 51:38]
• Officiating Sports Discussion: [52:10 – 54:29]

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, direct—hosts address fans as “fam”
• Personal storytelling, transparency about mistakes and family histories
• Plenty of playful roasting and camaraderie
• Blunt and comedic, with wisdom delivered through real-life experience

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Episode Takeaways

• Camaraderie and honesty drive the show. The hosts’ willingness to own up to mistakes, reflect on upbringing, and joke candidly about relationships builds authentic connection.
• Respect, boundaries, and resilience emerge as life themes, both in family and professional sports life.
• Sports legends debates (LeBron, KD, historic teams) bring classic Club Shay Shay banter and passionate sports analysis.

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For fans: This episode is loaded with wisdom, playful banter, and raw stories—perfect for anyone wanting the real, unvarnished Club Shay Shay experience.

Transcript

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[Joe Johnson]

all

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Unc]

That shit went fast, didn't it, man? Hey, you gonna try to get you some sleep tonight, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, we only talked about basketball tonight.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

What did you want to talk about, man?

[Joe Johnson]

Something else besides basketball.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay, we're gonna get in these chats and we'll see. Before we get to the super chat, we got five video voicemail from our discord. Let's take a listen to what the first ones had to say.

[Joe Johnson]

What's up? Night, cat fam. What's up, Ocho, Unc and Joe. I gotta. I got two questions. Joe. My favorite, everybody got, you know, Michael Jordan and Kobe. But my favorite player is Kevin Garnett. I've been watching him. I did biographies about him. Did everything growing up. So that's my favorite player. Can you give me a story, Joe, about Kevin Garnet?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

It don't have to be a long way to be a quick one.

[Joe Johnson]

And Unc and Ocho,

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

you gotta cut,

[Joe Johnson]

bench and start Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson or Jerry Rice. Love y', all,

[Unc]

man.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Listen, yo, you played against.

[Unc]

I played against him. I played with him. I got a story. When we was on the same team in Brooklyn, the man had a story every day. He had a story every day. But this particular time we was on the road and we had just played against OKC and OKC and it was. I had a game win of that game. As we me kg, we leaving out the locker room, he probably about five steps in front of me. So as soon as I come out the locker room, Ibaka he come. He was Right next to me. As we walking, he. He tapped me. Ibaka was like, hey, you think KG will let me come work out with him in the summer? I'm pumped shitty right there. Here, why don't you go ask him? I don't know. Yeah, man. He went up there to ask kg. Yes, kg, could he work out with him in the summer. KG went off on him, man. Get your bum ass away from me. He went left on that, man.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I said, damn.

[Unc]

Hey, let me tell y' all something. KG a great dude, bro. I'm talking about he the dude that you want on your team. I promise you he gonna. He gonna always have your back. But, boy, if you ain't on his team, boy, he gonna treat you like something on the bottom of his shoe.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Do you hear me?

[Unc]

I'm talking about. He went left on a baki. He Baka was already scared to ask him. I could tell. Cause he tried to get me to ask. I'm like, hell, no. I ain't asking.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You go after.

[Unc]

He's standing right there, man. That man went left on the box.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Damn ticket.

[Unc]

Oh, man.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Here's our second one. Let's take a listen to the second one.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Ocho. ISO and steel.

[Unc]

Yo, what's up with y' all boys, man? Yo, bro, We. Me and you got beef, bro.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

We gonna have to box, bro, just the way Joe finna do, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I'm saying? With the little.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I'm have to do you just like that. About five, seven.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, about five seven.

[Unc]

About 143.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what I'm saying?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

We got beef. You wonder why we got beef, bro?

[Joe Johnson]

Because, listen, bro, I ordered me a laportier bottle. I ain't get no box, bro. They ain't send me no box with

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

my laportier bottle, bro. So, yeah, we got beef, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

In the Atlanta. The Atlanta hall or Atlanta Falcons fan that was just on the other night. She got her box, and I want my box.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

So we gonna have to box until I get my box. For real, dog. The boxes you ordered recently, the box was the original. So there was 25, 000 boxes. And the people that ordered, and I think it came out in 20, 21. So, no, the box is not.

[Unc]

Yeah, at five seven, 143, he ain't got a snowball chance in hell.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No, but. Nah, you ain't getting no box either, now that I think about it. Not. Hell, no. No. Yeah, yeah. Big pine box, one about five, eight. Yeah. Here's our Third one. Let's take a listen to the third one.

[Dalia]

Hey, Nightcap family. It is Dalia. This is my first but not my last video chat. This Message is for Oo and Ocho. Only Ocho. I'm about to be 50 years old, and my son is turning 21 this year. My father is a pastor of a church, and my mother is deeply in church. And I cuss in front of both of them. Why? Because I'm grown. I don't like hypocrites. And it sounds like those two on the left and right of you are very hypocritical, which explains why they be trying to exclude you from everything they do. If you look at the astrology wheel, Capricorn and Cancer are polar opposites. So what they talking about? Raise kids the way you see fit. My son cusses in front of me. He don't cuss at me. So that's the difference. So that's where the disrespect comes in. So keep doing what you do. Keep being amazing. You are in the center of the screen because you are the nucleus of this show. See y' all next time.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I mean, it's a little different. I, My kids probably curse when I'm not probably. I know they do. Hey, I mean, they, they grown Everybody in their 20s, except. Except three of them. I'm sure they do curse. They don't curse in front of me. I'm scared to curse in front of my grandma and my mama when they were here, you know, God. God rest their soul. My mama, Aunt Joe, she probably the best curse in the world. She could put words together. I didn't even know you can have that type of combination words that go together. But, I mean, outside of that, I, I, I hear you. I appreciate the love, sis. And I'm just here. I'm just here.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I don't get. I don't get into telling people how they should or shouldn't raise their kids. I grew up. My grandfather cursed. My grandmother didn't. My mom cursed. Some of my uncles cursed. But I'm not grown. And even when I got grown, I'm not cussing in front of my mom. I'm not cussing in front of my grandma. I'm just not my kids. I know that they drink. They were drinking in college. I got no problem. Hey, that's not me. But they're not going to curse in front of me. I don't give a damn how grown they are, because guess What? They're grown. But when they need money, guess what? They coming on, show them grown ass coming and ask me for money.

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[Joe Johnson]

Right, right, right.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

My kid, your kids, People. Kids. I know people, Joe. And that happens in the south. I don't know if it's happened up north where some kids call their parents by their name. First name. What, you think I'll be able to call my mama Mary or call my grandma Mary or call Papa? What? I mean, some people call their parents by their first name. I had cousins, they called it. They mom and daddy by their first name. I was like, lord, that must be really nice. But, ma', am, you keep. Those are your keys. Hello.

[Unc]

Your son.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You raise them how you see fit. You want to allow him to curse, have at it. I'm not going to tell you what you should or shouldn't do. I'm just telling you. Yes, I curse, but my kids are not going to curse in front of me. That ain't gonna happen.

[Unc]

Hey, hey, listen.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And you know why? They got too much respect for me. They know I don't play like that.

[Unc]

My grandmother, like I said, she was a lead singer in the choir at church. She was a church going woman, but boy, I'm talking about, she could cuss with the best of them. You hear me? Look, this is why. This is why I tell y', all, man, I was in church three, four days out the week, man, with my grandma, you know what I mean? And. And look, as I got older, it wasn't nothing for me to put a couple cuss words together because I had been around her, but she raised me, you know what I mean? So I already knew what was going on. Yeah, yeah, but I'm like Unc, man. My oldest, he just turned 19.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't.

[Unc]

Man, listen. My youngest son, who's 4, he only. He probably don't even know my real name. Oh, he called me a daddy. I ain't know nothing else.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, that's. But here's the. Here. Here's the bigger thing, Ocho Joe. Why would they want to curse in front of their parents? What is so important? What do you feel you need to put such emphasis on? What is it that you feel you can't say? Your point? You can't make without using the curse words.

[Joe Johnson]

It all depends on the dynamic, especially where you grew up, your surroundings, your upbringing. I mean, all that comes into play. Most of the time when you're cursing, you're just talking similar. Sometimes when I curse, I don't even realize I'M cursing. It's just the way I explain things based on the circumstance of the situation I'm talking about, you know, And.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

But you talking to me and Joe, you talking to your homeboy. You ain't talking like that in front of your mom and your grandma and get. You realize everything. No, no, no, no, no. Exactly.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no. Oh, no. I know one thing. I guarantee you this, and I can stand firm. On what? On this belief. Joe, you know my mama. There's only one person that rivaled my mama when it comes to cursing and putting words together and reading somebody for filth, and that would be Ms. Tia Kemp, who is also down here from Miami, which is probably why she can put words together and curse the way she do when it's time to go up on somebody, boy. Paula Hurricane Johnson and he and Kim. But ain't nobody in the world seeing him when it's time to curse.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And I think. I think when you in a situation in a. An environment where you're comfortable.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I don't want my kids. I've never been that comfortable in front of my grandma and my mom to curse. I don't want my kids that comfortable. You want to get out there and you want to curse, have at it. But I. I'm. I'm big. I'm big on that. I don't ask them a whole lot. Be respectful of. I'm still dead. Yes, sir. That's all I ask. I. Hey, I know y'. All. I know you're gonna be. I know when you were teenagers and when you were in your 20s and mid-20s and 30s. Now you're in your 30s. Give me. I don't ask much. Just. Just keep that level of respect. There. There are certain things. It's just like in a relationship. There are certain things that. Hey, I understand. We get comfortable. We've been around each other, Joe. But I'm just saying there's certain things I don't need to know. I don't need to see. That's all I'm saying. But, ma', am, the one thing Joe and I will not do. We're not going to tell you how to. You want your son to curse your concern. If you say 29, you about to be 50. Your son. 20. 20, 29 or 21. I think she said 20.

[Joe Johnson]

21.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

21. That's. That is your son. That's your offspring. That's your seed. No, no, no, no, no. Them three, that ain't happening. All right, here's our fourth one. Let's take A listen what they had to say.

[Unc]

Yo, what up, Nightcap? This Stan man, representing Pine Bluff, Arkansas. Okay. Shout out for the 2 million subs. Yeah. One of my favorite tight ends. All time. One of my favorite football players. All time. Ocho, my guy. I used to play with you on the man. I used to call it a go to monster because that's when you had the goals in and you was killing everything. Joe, Arkansas native, question for you. You played in Pine Bluff twice your senior year, once at the King Cotton Classic. Remember they had you on the. On the brochure? Yeah. He got game. And then you also came and won the state championship your senior year. Can you tell me what you remember about playing in the Bluff and showing love for Arkansas? Appreciate it. Love, man. My senior year, bro, Uncle Ocho, we were ranked nationally. This is a public school, Little Rock Central. We were ranked, like, number eight, number nine national.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

So we.

[Unc]

We had a nice team. We were number one in the state. We played against North Little Rock, who was number two in the state. We split in the regular season, but the. The game that we lost to them during the regular season, I had pneumonia, so I didn't even get to play. So when we met them in the championship game, it was a big. That's probably our biggest rival outside of them in the team called school, called Parkview. When we met them in the championship game, man, the first quarter, the score was like, 24 to 4. That's how much we was beating them. Out of the first quarter, we was up 24 to 4. And it was bad, bro. It was bad because throughout that whole week, the news was at our school. We going at them then they'll go to North Little Rock. Now they talking about us. So the rival,

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

they kept building it up.

[Unc]

So by the time we got to the game, hell, we were ready to go. Yeah, we ended up beating them, boy, by, like, I think about, like, 25, 30. That's what I do remember from that. And my senior year was special, bro. It was special.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Go ahead, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you know what I'm thinking about?

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Arkansas, Pine Bluff. Yeah, man, we played them when I

[Unc]

was at Langston, I just thought, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think y' all in the same conference as them.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man, we play. We play Arkansas, Pine Bluff. I mean, I won.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I was.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't remember. I was a rookie that year. I mean, I just remember Matthew Hatchet, who played for the Minnesota Vikings, was on the team with me back then. Quarterback Kevin Johnson and Waylon Jones. I ain't I ain't seen them boys in so long.

[Unc]

Yeah, they used. They keep. They used to keep a. You know, a nice little team. I hadn't kept up with them in a while, but they normally have a decent little football team.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

All right, this is our last and final one of the discord. Let's take a listen. What they had to say. What's up, ISO? What's up? What's up, Ocho? Man, you know you're my boy, right? Your jokes be cracking me up, man. I hope you keep coming with them, man. And just to let you know that you my boy, O. Joe, that thing that happened to you when you was

[Joe Johnson]

in high school, man, I want you

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

to know I been looking for him ever since. And guess what? I found him. My man, I got this Zo back for you, my boy. I got that Zo back for you, my boy. So you ain't ever got to worry about things again. Revenge is sweet. And I got it for you, my boy. Y' all have a great night. And, Ocho, you never gotta worry about that Zoe again. Man, you got people down there looking for that. So the kids. You bad on your.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, listen, man. That way. Hey, that's way back and got there. 1992, man, that. That don't. That don't make me. Not no more, you know? It is what it is. Hey, that's a good one, man. I appreciate that, young bull. I appreciate that, baby. Appreciate that.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, TS Car Wash Detail Service. Ocho, who was the tallest NFL person in your era?

[Joe Johnson]

The tallest NFL person during my time.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Ogden. Six, nine.

[Unc]

What position you playing?

[Joe Johnson]

J. O? Yeah, for the Ravens. What about.

[Unc]

Wait.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm trying to.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, I played jail. Dan McGuire. Mark McGuire, brother who's quarterback of the Seahawks. He was like, six, eight. Six, eight.

[Joe Johnson]

He wasn't no good, huh?

[Unc]

No.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

He lied, though. No, he wasn't. Hell, what's the guy from Denver, he was like, six, seven. That came after Brock Osweiler. From Memphis Plumber. No, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Osweiler.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No. Oswald. Oswald came from, like, Arizona. Arizona State, something like that. Nah, but the one that came after him, what was the quarterback?

[Unc]

Name?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Ash. Chad. Who's the quarterback in Denver after Osweiler?

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[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Nah, I'm just kidding.

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[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I can't think of his name. Pastor. Pastor Lynch. Pastor lynch was like 6. Yeah, he like 67.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't know. I ain't know that.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Look at man, we about to block y'. All. We about. I'm about to block everybody. Y' all mentioned Rossini or VRA again and we put it together. No, we not talk that. I don't care nothing about that. Who Mike Rabel in that situation? I don't care nothing about that. Man, we ain't no gossip show here. Nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what happened.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Matt Schraer. Y' all better talk about D Racin and Mike and Mike Rabel. We not man, I don't do we don't do the tabloid. What y' all want us to say, man? Nothing. You read about it tomorrow. J1984 out been active on here for a while now. Just using it this. But ocho ISO love what y' all doing and congrats on 2 million. Much love. Thank you, Jay. We appreciate that because it doesn't happen without you. All the subs, all the views, all the the retweets, the downloads, the listen tools man, we cannot thank you enough because like I said, Nightcap success is not possible without the fans. L pray 98ocho start bench cut. Christian Nakoya. Eric Dickinson. Barry Sanders.

[Joe Johnson]

All right, that's easy.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's easy.

[Joe Johnson]

Of course, no further Barry Sanders.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I'm gonna start Barry and Christian Accord. You're gone.

[Joe Johnson]

You know I love the Nigerian nightmare, but come on now.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah. Carson Deck big three. What's up? I had to change my name. I used To Go By Lab 20 Casey subscribers since 4th October 4, 2023. I am 28 years old entrepreneur. I was hoping you could give my cards show a shout out. You're a 28 year old entrepreneur? I don't know what Lab K. Lab 20 Casey subscriber. I don't know what you do, bro. That would have helped if you. But I guess go check out Lab Lab 20 Casey. He's an entrepreneur. He's 28 year olds. He's an entrepreneur. Entrepreneur. And he's hoping that he gets some somebody will see his card and can hire him for his services. Even though we don't know what those services are.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I see. I see it now.

[Unc]

Yeah,

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

the grown people.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey man, that's every man. Come on. I thought something. You got me thinking something serious happened.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No, ain't nothing serious happened. People just like to talk. Talk about gossip. Hey, I was like. When I saw that thing run across, when it came across when it I was on. On social media last night, I was like, oh, oh, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, so many of those stories like in one ear, out the other next.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Exactly. I did cast chat. Can you tell a quick story about the baddest one you lost and was it your fault? Love the show. Baddest one you lost. Ocho. Was it your fault?

[Joe Johnson]

Wait, baddest, Baddest who that bad?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You know, one of them 12 that you don't lost. Oh, oh, oh.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, listen, listen, listen. It. It's always.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Was it your fault, man?

[Joe Johnson]

It was. It's always my fault, huh?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

At least you can be honest.

[Unc]

That's what I like about my homeboy

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

gonna tell you the truth.

[Joe Johnson]

It's always my fault. But it's one thing about that. It's one thing about that seat on, boy, it's always another one. It ain't too hard to catch, especially when you got.

[Unc]

Hey, we all probably let a, you know, a couple get by.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it's cool.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I have the right line.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You know what I'm saying? I have a strong enough line. He shook that head. Shook that hook out.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I tell you what.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

What for everyone.

[Joe Johnson]

I did lose that thought I was a problem.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

They still going through the same damn. I mean, I'm just saying.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'. All, Y' all already know, man. I let it go, you know. Y' all already know. Y' all already know. Yeah, but I tried, Chad. Y', all, y' all know I try. Y' all know y' all here without the trying, man. I just.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, everybody got advice.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. My vice is cigars. Yeah. I don't sat and settled down. Hey, Joe. I'm in a good space, Joe.

[Unc]

Me too, O. Joe, me too. I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm in a good. Hey. Huh?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, me too. I'm in a good space. A nice tight space. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. Oh, my bad. But a good spot.

[Joe Johnson]

Good. Hey, I'm in a good. I'm in a good space, Joe. You know, I'm man, like, really, like, you know. Okay.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we see. I mean, you, I mean, you, you know, you know, you that proud of you, like, you know.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

She go get your little food. You're like, babe, can you give me something? She bring it back. You know what you want. Yeah, I was like, damn.

[Unc]

Hey, see, See, when you, when you get a little older, you know, you, you cut the chase out. You know what I mean? See, back when we probably in our 20s and 30s, you know, out there chasing dog. Chasing a cat.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You hear me?

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y' all know what's going on.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, it was. I'm an apex. I was an apex hunter.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you want worse than me.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I, I know, but I was trying. You know what I'm saying, don't you? I, I do. I, I, I, I.

[Joe Johnson]

Look,

[Unc]

man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Joe. I would bet.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe. Joe.

[Unc]

Okay, we ain't got to talk about too much, but check this out. Was it because you just got bored quick? You know, like. Because, you know, like, it ain't nothing like that. New. New, you know, I'm talking about, you meet somebody new, y' all can have a good time. Is it. But when you get bored, you know, you start to do things that you know you probably shouldn't do in a relationship.

[Joe Johnson]

It ain't even bored, Joe. It's just the. The fact that I had access. I had many, many, many, many, many, many, many options.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You had many, many millions.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that too. But listen, and the funny thing about it, Joe, even with having. Even having the money side of it, what makes it easier and getting. And having access, I still won. The spender.

[Unc]

Yeah, that.

[Joe Johnson]

That's. That's well known. I'm not spinning. And so you not coming in and dealing with me.

[Unc]

Yeah, you ain't have to be a spender. They know what's going on now.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, yeah, you already gone, so.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, it's something about new. Except that some of the. The excitement, the adrenaline rush, the feeling of the unknown, the chase, being able to conquer. There you go, you know, trying to. Jumping through those hoops that they. They love to pretend like, oh, I'm gonna make you work. You finna give something? You know, stuff like.

[T-Mobile Advertiser]

I mean,

[Joe Johnson]

my bad. No, no, no dis. No disrespect. No disrespect, Joe. It's like. Like there are certain games. Women know who to play certain games with. Some of us. Some of us have time to waste, and some of us don't. You know, you playing. Okay, boom, on to the next. Like that game you playing. Let him. That has no options. Deal with that.

[Unc]

But, you know, y', all, as men, we are natural hunters. You know what I'm saying?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That. That.

[Unc]

That's.

[Joe Johnson]

That's.

[Unc]

That's in our nature. You know what I mean? So. I know what you're talking about, Ocho.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I do.

[Unc]

I'm glad you.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

But, you know, Ocho, you know, hey, that's the oldest.

[Unc]

You didn't tame that dog.

[Joe Johnson]

Now, wait. No, no, I've been tamed. There's a difference.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay?

[Unc]

Yeah. Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Because you ain't never seen it. You ain't never seen a lion or a tiger tame itself. It always had a trainer.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You hear me? It take the right one. Praise God.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You know, I just. I can't get around like.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I can't get around like I used to. You know, I. I just think for me, I look back on it, I was like, okay. And you think you're like, okay. How different my life would have been had I did this. And I. Like I said, I think, Joe, you and I said this is that. I know one thing I would have done differently is that I've had the kids.

[Unc]

Yeah, one.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's what I would have done. It cut down a lot of headaches earlier, earlier in my career, but it was just, I don't know.

[Redfin Advertiser]

We're lost and kickoff's coming up. I don't want to miss the lineup. I'm gonna ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the stadium.

[T-Mobile Advertiser]

Well, you're going to take a left at the old oak tree at this here road.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Nah, I'm just kidding.

[T-Mobile Advertiser]

Let me get my phone out.

[Redfin Advertiser]

How is there signal out here?

[T-Mobile Advertiser]

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[T-Mobile Advertiser]

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[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

like you said, you have the access and just like it just had to happen, had to have her.

[Unc]

If you see, hey, it wasn't nothing. If you seen something out you like, I got, I got, I got to have that.

[Joe Johnson]

It ain't none to it.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, ain't nothing to it. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I, I, and now. You know what, Uncle Joe? I don't think people understand how difficult, how difficult it is. It's. Everyone always preaches and, and they, they, they talk and say all the right things, but when it really comes down to it, everything that we're taught is counterproductive to what human nature is, what it is just to be just, just to be natural. I think that's why so many struggle with discipline in certain areas of life. And we always look back the similar incident that people want what everybody to talk about. I mean, everyone continues to struggle in the same department, regardless of what it is you do, regardless of what corporate job you have in all walks of life, we see the same examples keep happening over and over and over.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Why?

[Joe Johnson]

Because what we're trying to do and what we're taught to do, it's not natural. That's why everybody keeps effing up. And then, you know, you have to put on a certain image. You have to act a certain way. But behind closed doors, what's. Everybody's doing the same, the same thing.

[Unc]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It's hard, man. Joe. It's, it's hard.

[Unc]

I know.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I was like a Kenya run. I ran as fast as I could, as long as I could. I'm out of gas now. I was like the legendary Kip Kino. Can't run no more, fellas. TS car wash detail service. Un. Have you ever met Kellen Winslow? Absolute. I met Big Kale probably around my first and second year in the league at the super bowl. And he was been a mentor, someone I can talk to about anything, have great insight. Him Ozzy and rest his soul, Todd Christiansen. Because those are the guys that I saw a lot of it like, okay. They caught a lot of passes. Big time playmakers. And that's what I, that's why, that's how I envision myself. So I know, I know Big Kale very well. Lady Ray. Hey, guys, I can't think of a good question tonight. So here's a joke. What do the dentists call X rays? Toothpicks.

[Joe Johnson]

That's a good one. That's a good one. I like.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay, lady.

[Joe Johnson]

That's a good one.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I see you. I'll be. I see you stole Ocho joke book. It's Maddie. I'm glad Johnson was able to set his phone aside to engage with us for two hours. King ISO, can you explain how does one get to the chicken?

[Unc]

How does one get to the chicken? Meaning? Yes, meaning he got a bag.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Meaning he.

[Unc]

He has array of things that. That he or she can do on the court. You know what I mean? Like that when we say get to that chicken, it means, hey, it's a cookout, and everybody's invited. Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Ain't no stopping this hip partner. Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

J1984 out. ISO and still Ocho Love. Y' all the most hardest people, the mo. The most hardest person y' all had to go up against for uncle and oo. What was the hardest you've ever been hit? Joe, who's the hardest person you ever had to go?

[Unc]

The hardest person I had to go up against,

[Joe Johnson]

Probably me.

[Unc]

Hell, no. I See. I always equated to Cats who I played against in the playoffs, UNC and Ocho, you know, because in the playoffs, we know your plays. You know our plays. You know when I'm gonna get the ball. I know. When you gonna get the ball? It's about. Can you stop it? And, bro, when I. We played against that Miami Heat team, bro, with Braun D. Wade and Chris Bosh, man, them dudes was different.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

But you played against Brian also Joe, when he went back to Cleveland, and y' all was the number one seed, right? Who were you? Were you.

[Unc]

No, no, I wasn't in Atlanta. I was gone then.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah, nice, because they had, what, like, 60. 60 games and they had, like, four guys in the office.

[Unc]

Well, they put a. Hey, they. They. The Cleveland came here and put on a mean demonstration in the playoffs. Yeah. Kyrie Braun, Kevin Love, they were shooting a cover off the ball. I already know what you're talking about. Yeah, I wasn't on that team, though. Nah, I wasn't on that team.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay.

[Unc]

But, yeah, they. Hey, hey, dude, I ain't gonna lie. Brian been a handful, bro. He been a handful. I played against him a few times in the playoffs, and, you know, he always had one of them games to.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That just.

[Unc]

Just separate him from everybody else.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, that's a LeBron toe. I mean, when you name a city out the guy. LeBron. The LeBron Raptors. I don't know, Ocho. Ocho, talk about that Brian Russell hit. Yeah, I've had some hits. I mean, Brian Russell got me also. Gary Jones hit me with the jets, man.

[Unc]

You ain't see him coming.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Nope.

[Unc]

Them the worst ones anymore.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, and I was running and I cut up inside and he was coming from me inside and hit me. Damn, my mofo head split my shield like a windshield crack.

[Unc]

Damn. It was no penalty or nothing back then, was it?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Nah, hell no.

[Joe Johnson]

Hell no.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You hit somebody in the head, man, Please ask Chat Chat. Do I. Do I choose the woman that I have the strongest social connection but fading attraction, or the woman with weaker social connection but the strongest physical attraction. Choose the woman that likes you, not the woman you like.

[Joe Johnson]

Took me a while to learn that, huh? Took me a while to learn that, but I did.

[Unc]

It does.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Choose the one that likes you. Social connection. I. I'm trying to figure out what does he mean, social connection? Like if they go out, if they

[Unc]

do things, they have a good time.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have a good time. We go to the movies or we get together with family, friends and loved ones. We can have it in black. But I'm not as attracted to her or the one that I'm really, really strong. Bro, you not gonna spend all this time in the bed.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I mean, unless you're a teenager. And then. And at some point in time that's gonna. Bro, I'm telling you.

[Joe Johnson]

And get old.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You want someone that you know, you can go out with, you can have a conversation with and you could. Hey, walk. Hey, I'm going to the bar, I'm going over here. And she can hold her own in the conversation. And she ain't looking for you. But man, well, you. Why you left me talking to all these people. You want somebody that can hold their own, they can hold a conversation. They can stand alone with you being gone 10, 15, 20 minutes. But you also want that person that you attract like. Damn. O. O. Cuz I don't care about the first. I just know I last.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's all I say. O. I don't know about the first. I don't know nothing about that. I just know. Look here, can we just sit on the couch and just watch tv? Can we find something that you know. You ever seen this? You seen this? I ain't never seen. Let's watch it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, it's. It's, it's. Oh, boy, ain't nothing worse. Always out every night, out on the weekends, out on boats, turning, popping bottles.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I hate that boy. I. I used to be. I used to be this guy. Oh, he. He did this, he did that.

[Unc]

I said, well, where is he?

[Joe Johnson]

And you know, anytime they talk about what it's always he used to do. It's always, it's always past tense, ain't it? Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I said, well, where is it?

[Joe Johnson]

All right,

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

But could you notice, guys, I don't know. I. I don't want to speak, but I'm saying I can't recall me ever being in a relationship and saying, this is what my ex used to do with for me. I've never brought that up, but women are. Oh, the last ninja I was with. Oh, yeah. Well, damn. Why you leaving? He did all that. Y' all going to Tulum and Turks and Caicos, and y' all in the Maldives. You know, he doing this. X, Y, and Z. Why are you here? Yeah, I'd be confused. I was confused, Ocho, because

[Joe Johnson]

they know what it is.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I ain't going none of them places.

[Joe Johnson]

The person. The person that's doing all that understand that you are just for fun.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's it. I mean, those type of dudes that do all that, right? And it's always, always right off the back, too, Uncle Joe. It's always right off the back. They know. They see you. You the fun girl. How do you not know that?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, I hate to break it to you. He's still doing that, just not with you. He's still doing it. He's. He probably over there tomorrow.

[Joe Johnson]

The game is a game, man.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Jamaica, Cancun, or, you know, Rios or wherever the place they'd be going. I don't know where they be going, but I'm just saying, you just gotta

[Unc]

play it depending on how you play it, huh, Ocho? The game is a game.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, the game is the game. I mean, I. I wish someone would understand. I mean, you. You should know the difference when you're just a fun girl or not. I mean, you get excited about the trips. I mean, the trips are just, you know, you take you somewhere, obviously, you know, it's. It's to do what? You know what? You know, you get your little heels, you get your little purse, and then they send you on your way until it's time, until it's your turn again. And the cycle just continues to repeat itself over and over, and it really goes nowhere. But the monetary gifts is just enough to keep you. To keep you. It's like. It's like giving a. Giving a bird breadcrumbs.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Gonna keep coming back.

[Joe Johnson]

You keep coming back. And it's. It's. It's small stuff, you know, get a little cat, a little cash here, you know, nice heel, nice purse, and that in the cycle just keeps going. Especially when it's someone that really got money on. Yeah, you could play that game with multiple Women at a time and they content.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah. I was like, man, yeah, bro, ass chat. Obviously you want somebody. It's kind of hard because we're physical creatures. Men are very, very physical. We, we see, we're very visual. We're very, very visual creatures. We see women want that mental connection. I want somebody I can sit on the couch and talk to and you know, he could, oh, he could do all this. Men like woo. Oh my God. Got a live with here. You know what I'm saying? But bro, at the end of the day, get you somebody that you can have a conversation with, man. Because you ain't gonna be in the bed. You ain't gonna be in the bed. Jay. Hey, when the knee gone, he wouldn't be gonna be ready. So we can see all the pool table ISO. When you get on that pool table, tell Ocho to put his crown up and get that. He.

[Unc]

First of all, he. His crown fugaze. Anyway, you know, you weren't anointed by the people. I was anointed by the people.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. I was anointed by the man that sit high and look low.

[Unc]

No, no, now you weren't. Now you weren't. Hey, hey. But, but, yeah, but I like that though. If you want to put that little crown up, you know me and you in the game of pool. Cause I know you can't shoot no pool. I could tell. I could just tell you ain't got no touch.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Ocho, he said you really put that crown up.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Wait. Didn't know what the crowd cost me 15. Hell no.

[Unc]

What?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

What? Joseph? That's. That's what? That's.

[Unc]

I want you to put it up that way.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's the one.

[Unc]

When I win it, I could just put it up. I ain't never got to see you wear it again. You can never wear it again. Ever. You can't go buy another one. None of that. Okay. Bet what you want to do whenever we all get together?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, I mean we waiting on them.

[Unc]

That's okay. Hey, hey. We know we ain't in no hurry.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I'm. I'm in a hurry because I'm. I'm.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I'm ready.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm ready to put built bta. I'm ready to put built ass.

[Unc]

I know you can't shoot.

[Joe Johnson]

You've been. You've been doing too much, too much, too much of this and not know

[Unc]

you can't shoot no pool. You already know when. When lights, camera, action. When they, when they come on. You already know how I perform oh, go, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

You done seen me. You seen me with the lights on, Joe. You don't see me with the lights on. When it come to things that I actually do, Joe.

[Unc]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Chat. See my work. Nightcap outside. Chat. Seen my work? Do I. Do I need. Do I have to bring it back up? Do I need to remind y'? All?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You ain't got to break it back up, Joe. You ain't got to bring it back up. JJ, a Junior underscore. Cool cat. What's up, gang? Congrats on all the success, and we're on the road to 3 million. Which sport would you least want to be an official in?

[Joe Johnson]

Hockey?

[Unc]

Hell, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause you mess around and punch me now. Now we got the square.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. You got to be an official. So you're a referee. Oh.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you want to be an official.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No. What sport would you least want to be an official? Hey, you.

[Unc]

You gotta know how to skate.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Why you don't want to be. Yeah, you don't. I mean, why you don't want to be an official in hockey?

[Joe Johnson]

Breaking up fights. Got time. Breaking up fights, man.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

All they do wants to hit. Once they hit the ice, break it up.

[Unc]

Yeah. You know you can't ice skate.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Ain't nobody stepping in.

[Unc]

You know you can't ice skate, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I can skate, Joe.

[Unc]

You can't ice skate.

[Joe Johnson]

I can roller skate. I can ice skate. I can skateboard, Joe. I do all those activities. Joe.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Joe, you ought to roll the scale.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Damn, Joe, you was in the country. I had a skate.

[Unc]

Yeah, we got a skating ring, man. Hey, look, I go. I go to Cascade sometime out here, boy. But I'm gonna tell you something.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, do you Cascade?

[Unc]

Ain't nothing nice on a Sunday. You can't be out there thinking you just gonna learn.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No, no, no. They didn't really skate over there.

[Unc]

They gonna tell you, put that blink on, get your ass out.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Get.

[Unc]

Go and get up out of here.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, they'd be out there like, roll, bounce.

[Unc]

Yeah, me and my. I take my girls, I take my lady. We out. We used to go, man. At one point, we were going like once a week, like, for probably about six months straight. We kind of tape it off. But, yeah, they'd be getting that. They'd be back when they be getting

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

it, they'd be out there leading with that thing, man.

[Unc]

Hey, when I was a kid, Uncle Ocho, my Aunt Sherry, who I was talking about, she a military lady. She used to say, goes. She's take me and her kids skating every Sunday, bro. Like, this was routine. I'm telling my man. Best times of my life, bro.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, they just have a skating rink in Statesboro. I could. I just couldn't. I mean, because I didn't have. I didn't have me. Things that I'm good at. That's all I want to do. I don't want to take the time to try to get good.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You know what I'm saying? So everything that I was good, everything that I did, I was good at. I'm talking about just move. I think I'm going. But if I got to practice four, five, a month, two, three months, now, hell with that.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't think. I started skating. Joe. My mama. Hey, Joe. And my mama was really, really good on them. On them eight.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'm talking about really good. She was smooth with it, too. So when I. When I got to LA with my grandma, obviously. Well, listen, you got to go live with your mom in la. The friends. Friends of mine that I met in la, they took me to World on Wheels. So I started skating in 97 at World on Wheels. I forgot what the session was. Obviously, World on Wheels is not there anymore. And then when I got to Cincinnati, those four years there, I spent. Obviously, I started skating, got. Got much better. And in Cincinnati, I think we used to go to Skate Town after every home game, I think. I think it was called Skate Town usa. If anybody's in the chat in Cincinnati, we actually go to that session every time after every game because I think it was 1711.

[Unc]

It's a workout, though. There ain't no that. That's skating, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. After that game, it worked good, too. Getting that. Getting that sort of stuff. Get that sort of right up at it so you don't feel as bad the next morning.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No.

[Unc]

Okay.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And now I got old. Now I already know ain't nothing but another hip replacement. ACL or something like that. I. I ain't messing with it. Richard Wright fan, Atlanta Braves and the Angels gave us a preview of Ocho and ISO throwing hands. Pitcher went high inside with a fastball. And the Battle charged the mound. Both throwing hand punches and. And ain't hitting Nathaniel the picture ball in his hand.

[Unc]

Yeah, I seen that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I thought he was gonna throw it. I thought he was gonna throw it at one point. Like, baby, man, you throw this ball, you ain't. No.

[Unc]

He tried to knock him. He was trying to knock Buddy upside his head with that ball.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

He was trying to hit it with it. He damn sure was.

[Joe Johnson]

He caught him a little bit. The helmet blocked it a little bit.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, Joe. This one's for you, Joe. Kaleidoscope 1. King. ISO, what are your thoughts on Little Rock hoop legend Drew P. Balls calling it a career last week?

[Unc]

Droopy Balls. Who was that?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Drew. He. Drew P. Yeah. See, he tried to be funny.

[Joe Johnson]

That's a good one.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That was funny, Rob, for me. ISO. Ocho, do you have a relationship with your father? If not, who taught you how to be the father you are to your kids?

[Unc]

I had a relationship with my. I didn't. Man, I didn't really have a relationship to my. With my pops until I was 26 years old. I was already six years in the NBA. He had been incarcerated in and out. You know, my childhood.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

He.

[Unc]

I mean, hell, my junior high high school games, I never. He never was at none of them. And who taught me how to be a father? I think not having one taught me how to be one, you know what I mean? Because I think, as a kid, bro, it does something to you, whether you know it or not. Especially a young man and a young woman, you know, if you don't have that father figure around. So, you know, when I started having kids, it was no way in hell I was gonna let them be running around here, and I ain't in their life. You feel me? Because of what I went through. Yeah,

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Shoot for me, Pop. My pops was. Pops was a rolling. I'm not rolling stone, but Pops was. So he was incarcerated. Really?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Really.

[Joe Johnson]

My whole life. Huh? He was incarcerated, and he got out. By the time my pops got out, he missed everything. When I was a child, as a child, all the way, I was already in. In New England.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Damn. Really?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Well, Pop, I mean, y' all be. Think I'd be capping. Pops was big time down here in Miami, man.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. So he got out when I was already in New England. I flew him to a game, obviously. Grandma, Mama, Why the. Why you doing that? I mean. I mean. Oh, you know, I did. I didn't want to see who, you

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

know, who he was.

[Joe Johnson]

He passed away.

[Unc]

Same here, bro. Because when he. When my. When my pops got out of prison, I done so much for him. I got him a car, got him a place to stay, and, boys, a lot of people who from around the way did not like that. Do you hear me? I'm talking about. Nah, they ain't. They ain't like that because they felt he wasn't there, you know? Mind you, where I. Where I'm from and where my dad from, that's literally a seven minute drive. No more than that. You know what I mean? So, yeah, it was. It was a lot of people that, that, that. That talk bad about my pops behind that, but I wanted, like, like oo said I wanted to see what type of person he was. I wanted to see his mannerisms. I want to see what type of dude he was. Yeah, I got a chance to experience that, but my.

[Joe Johnson]

My mama ain't play that, boy. Hey, Sam. Hey, you think, you think. Is that stuff still on record? Like, for what he went to jail for when he came out, even though he passed away?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, you probably could pull it up.

[Joe Johnson]

Sam Brown senior, somebody. I mean, I'm sure Chad, y' all good at finding stuff. As good at finding stuff. Sam Brown senior, he was released in, I think, 2009, 2010 from my overtown. From overtown Miami.

[Unc]

He still living ojo now.

[Joe Johnson]

He passed away. He passed away. He passed away. Hey, Joe. I ain't got nobody left, Joe. My pop's gone, Grandma gone, my mama gone. So it just. It just shoot, hell, it just oo you ain't.

[Unc]

Me and you in the same boat, partner.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you.

[Unc]

Oh, you keep paddling.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, I got it now. I got it. Hey, I. I got the ship. The ship floating now, man.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I just talked to my uncle today. I got an uncle. He just turned 99. My dad's brother, he's the oldest. He's the only one. He's the only one not another brother made it past. My dad died at 39. One of his brothers died at like 43. And the other one might have. I think he died at 49, but he might have made it to 50. He's the only one. He's the only one. Only one to make it 95 years old, like, hey, Shannon. Because I called his wife Margie, and she answered the phone and I was like.

[Unc]

I said, marge, this is Shannon.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

She's like, hey, how you doing? I said, I'm fine. We talked for a minute. I say, where's up? He's laying right here. And she gotta say, richard, it's. It's Shannon. It's Shannon Sharp, you know, hey, one look like Pete. That's my dad. That's my daddy's name. But we talked for, like, still got his mind. He's still sharp. I asked him how he's doing. He's like, I'm doing. Yeah, you know, I'm doing. But for me, I would have loved. I Would. I don't care what my day. I just. I just wanted my dad because, you know, when you see people and if they got their dad, My mom. My mom would come to the game. What I'm saying, to have your dad. Because my dad was gonna be on the sideline. I don't know about everybody up there, but they gonna be. They might be. Yeah, man. But. But. But Pete Sharp was gonna be on the sideline.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Because I would have did every. Everything. Everything that I did for my mom, who was always in my. In our life, I'd have did exactly. My dad, he'd got a car, he got a house, he got every everything because that's. At the end of the day, my dad. And you don't know the reasons why somebody, you know, chose not to be around. Sometimes that's not always their choosing. Yeah. But for whatever reason, I don't care. You here now. That's all I care about. And I'm. I'm gonna love you. I. We ain't got to talk about why you weren't there. We're gonna start right here. And we going this way. We ain't finna go. Start here, right? Go back. We start here, and going that way we go.

[Unc]

I never asked those questions neither. I never asked why you weren't here. Why? I just enjoy it. 1. Once he got out, bro, we just kind of took off. He the one taught me how to play ping pong. You let him tell it. Oh, I was a ping pong champ down there in the junk. They couldn't mess with me. He taught me how to play ping pong. And, boy, look, once I could beat him, it was a rap.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, you think?

[Unc]

Oh, nice, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Okay. We gonna. We gonna see. See, ping pong was your pops. My pop's thing was that goddamn pipe and scars. Hey, hey, Unc. When he got out, he ain't want nothing. He ain't want nothing, man. I just want you to give me some pipes, some tobacco, and give me some cigar, man. We used to go smoke. I never forget.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

We used to. Prince Albert. So he's smoking that Prince Albert in the can, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, we used to go smoke at David's Cafe on 17th and Meridian. I never forget. 17 Meridian. On. On the beach. Sit there. Man, you know, I thought there was some good time. Boy, he came to a goddamn. He came to a Patriots game.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And had to sit in that cold. I ain't do.

[Unc]

He talked.

[Joe Johnson]

They say, man, don't you. Hey, don't you ever bring me out here.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Your dad from Florida, man. He ain't been in no cold like that. My mom coming. My mom was in Chicago. My mom been in Chicago basically since she was like 20, because she first went to New York, but been in Chicago since she was 20. So my mom used to the cold, right? Everybody can't go out there and sit in that damn cold in. In the Northeast. And you know, I was in Greek, man, please suck my ass. Took my ass out there to Green Bay like the frozen death. Please. Zay the phenom. If Wemby Chef would feed him more than once a day, he would have probably played through it. Still ghost first. Go. I don't care what you feed Wimby. Wendy ain't gonna be Wendy. You. Y' all see Wimby structure? I see we'll be structured. How big y' all think women gonna get? Women gonna be like Kareem.

[Joe Johnson]

No. Okay. He gonna be like kd. Yes, he'll be like kd.

[Unc]

I think they, you know, they see Giannis because Giannis kind of came in like real skinny like that, and he end up gaining all that muscle. But I don't see Wimby frame being able to gain muscle like that.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No, I don't either. I don't either. Mike.

[Unc]

Mike.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

What's up, Big three? I know you were saying great players don't let trash talk bother them, but sometimes it takes them to another level. Like ISO said. Think about the MJ story sometimes who got to bta. Yeah, but you think you trying to get him out of his game. You getting him, making him take his game to another level. You should have left one.

[Unc]

You make him lock in. Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yes. Now, he had to prove a point of view. The man kills on ISO. Watch all NFL games next season so you can stay on the show during NFL season. Man, I don't want to not watch nothing. Cowboys.

[Unc]

Nah, man, I'll be watching. But oh, yeah, I'm gonna definitely watch my Cowboys now.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Take that ill. Oh, here you go. Peyton Pleasant Ocho. ISO being world class athletes who's likely to have. Who likely had many once in a lifetime experience, how did you manage your time to improve on your mind?

[Unc]

How did I manage? How do we manage our time?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yep. How did you manage or do you manage your time to improve on your mind?

[Unc]

I'm be honest, and this ain't no cap because I'm invested. But it's the yoga for me, bro. Like getting. Having that hour, hour and a half to myself just to really meditate, think. And that's just on the things that maybe I got going on in life, you know what I mean? Or something I may be dealing with. That helps me out tremendously. So I do a lot of my meditating, you know, obviously when I'm. When I'm in yoga, things I'm dealing with.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

It's. I mean, I used to do it, Joe. I used to take yoga three times a week. I used to do Pilates three times a week. Now I just. It's just hard for me to turn my mind off. It's just so hard for me to turn my mind off. And when I turn my mind off, I mean, I'm really trying to. I'm trying.

[Unc]

Yeah. You know what it is for me? I like to be. I like to put my body under. Under that type of pressure on a day to day basis. Like that's a challenge for me. You know what I mean?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Right.

[Unc]

You know, so, yes, that's. It's like. It's like my daily vitamin.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

If.

[Unc]

If you would say

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

you do yoga every day.

[Unc]

I go about four, four days out the week. I mean, it's. A lot of people can't do one one day out the week. Like it's challenging. You have to work your way up to get to that many days out the week. But man, it makes you stronger, bro.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Jay Andy the Don. Hey, Uncle. You see who showed up for voluntary workouts the first day? Ocho had all that energy saying the coach was doing too much, calling out, calling Lamar out. And guess who showed it, you know what up the first day.

[Joe Johnson]

He was showing up regardless because it was a new regime and he was still doing too much. Every quarterback shows up when there's a new regime. Common sense.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Dale sk1 did KD career start in Golden State? You gotta stop the hate. Four Western Conference finals and he was losing to teams Braun was losing to in the finals. Braun was the second super team by the time KD went to Golden State. The problem. But here's the thing. KD was up 3 1. KD was up 3 1. I'm not saying K, I'm not saying kd. KD was well within his right. But you. It's a false equivalent that have been like. That would have been the same had go Golden State beat LeBron and then LeBron go join Golden State. What would y' all have said? See, I can see. Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, Joe, here's a better analogy. When LeBron was a free agent, who put him out of the playoffs? The Boston Celtics Now, LeBron, go join KD. Paul Pierce and Ray Allen and Rondo. What would y' all have said?

[Unc]

They'd be talking about him.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's all people saying, bro, I hope y' all mad at me. Wendy, the one that said he would rather have at this present time Ant man over kd. I'm. I'm missing something, bro. Now, when LeBron leaves a team, do they win more or do they win less or do they win the same? When LeBron left Miami, how would he do it? When LeBron left Cleveland, how were they doing? Asking? Just curious. Just curious. But you do know, like, when we have to evaluate players, you have to say things.

[Unc]

He got. He gotta get the strap.

[Joe Johnson]

Evaluate players.

[Unc]

Was that Joe,

[Joe Johnson]

I feel sorry for you when we play.

[Unc]

I don't.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Do they realize, like, when you evaluate players, that was when you evaluate a player and you said, okay, X, Y and Z. Tell me the lie that I said. Kevin Durant joined the Golden State warriors after being up 31 on the Golden State Warriors. He went and joined a team that had just won 73 games. They won 73 games. They beat the Bulls record, which no one thought could ever happen. They had a unanimous mvp. You do realize there have only been one unanimous MVP in NBA history. Not Jordan, not Will, not Russell, not LeBron, not Shaq, not Kobe, not Bird, not Magic 1 1.

[Unc]

It's occurring

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Steph Curry. So what? So how do we evaluate that if LeBron James would have went and joined the Boston Celtics after they knocked him out of the playoffs, y' all make it seem like he went to Miami. Do y' all realize that Miami got knocked out in the first round? Where was Cleveland? What was Cleveland doing before LeBron got there with all those number? You remember now, they got Kyrie, then they got Anthony Bennett. Then they got Tristan Thompson. They got Anthony, Ben. Tristan Thompson in the same draft. And then they followed up with Andrew Wiggin, back to back to back to back. Come on, guys. Look, if you don't like Ron, okay, I get that. You can't deny he a bad mofo. You cannot deny it. You can't. No matter how hard you try to make it out with this guy, you can say whomever, okay? If you want to say LeBron is not a top five, top 10, top 15

[Joe Johnson]

ain't.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Don't deny it. He a bad mofo. Wherever you want to rank him, you could say. If you want to say Kobe better than him, you want to say kd, you want to say Steph, you want to say Jordan, you want to say Mike Bird, Magic, whomever, the likelihood, if you ever see somebody doing what he did because oh, he's stat pad. Well, let me ask you a question. Why other guys gonna be able to pad these stats if it's so easy? So everybody should just be able to roll out of bed and get 20 points, five rebounds, seven assists, easy. If that's all he's ever done, so why Nobody else? Average 28.67 and 7 for a career over 23 years. If it's easy, it's easy. To the casual person that hadn't played sports, it's like say, well, anybody can catch a. Okay, if anybody can catch a pass,

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, why, why they not out there doing it?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

It's harder than you think. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite. There's my partner and co host, the Liberty City legend, the tongue fu master, a bingo great provo Pro bowl, all pro. That is Chad Ocho. Cico Johnson. And you see it bobbing and weaving, getting, getting the game on. Getting the game. He's a seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks and he's a little Rock, Arkansas Nate. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier, head over to laportiercognac.com to purchase you a bottle. Remember, it is a premium VSOP cognac. The smoothest, best tasting VSOP cognac on the market compared against others. And you'll see we have the best cognac on the market. Please, please drink responsibly and stay safe. Again, I'm Unc, he's Ocho, and that is ISO. We're done for tonight, but we'll see you tomorrow. Thank you guys. Sam.

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