Nightcap Hour 3: SADDENED by sudden passing of NASCAR ICON Kyle Busch

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 3: Saddened by Sudden Passing of NASCAR Icon Kyle Busch

Episode Date: May 22, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe ("Unk")
Guests/Co-hosts: Chad Ochocinco Johnson, Joe Johnson (ISO Joe)
Key Event: Passing of Kyle Busch

---

Episode Overview

This episode of "Nightcap Hour 3" dives into a wide-ranging, lively conversation about sports culture, locker room dynamics, the importance of community leadership, and most notably, reflects on the sudden tragic death of NASCAR champion Kyle Busch. Joined by Chad Ochocinco and Joe Johnson, Shannon Sharpe fosters both humor and heartfelt moments, spending much of the show discussing player respect, legacy, and the complex realities athletes face. The episode is marked by camaraderie, banter, honesty, and a poignant tribute to the late Kyle Busch.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Locker Room Integrity and “Breaking the Code”

Discussion starts at 05:00

• Messy Media Questions: The trio debates whether asking controversial questions—like those about locker room disagreements—is out of line or simply part of the territory for athletes in modern media.
  • "If Bobby Portis went on any other platform...do you think they ask him about what Miles Turner said?" – Unk [05:00]
• Protecting the Locker Room:
  • Sharpe and Johnson emphasize the sanctity of locker room conversations. Airing grievances publicly is seen as a breach of trust among teammates.
  • "Whatever goes on in that locker room...a lot of things…never make it out." – Unk [08:06]
  • "Not supposed to." – Ochocinco chimes in [08:19]
• Consequences for Breaking Trust:
  • Once someone breaks the code, guys “look at you sideways” and you may be iced out entirely.
  • "You talk about somebody...the boy gonna be looking at him sideways when he come back up in there." – Johnson [12:16]
• Personal Stories:
  • Discussion on how pillow talk and wives/girlfriends can interfere with team cohesion [13:00–15:00]
  • Laughter about the unspoken rules: "Sometimes the wives band together and get against the girlfriends." – Sharpe [14:07]

2. Tribute to Kyle Busch’s Legacy

Begins at 19:30

• Breaking News:
  • Sharpe solemnly announces the passing of Kyle Busch at 41 after a severe illness.
    • "Kyle Busch has tragically passed away at the age of 41 following a battle with a severe illness." – Unk [19:30]
  • Highlights the bittersweet timing (just days after Busch’s birthday tweet to his son).
  • Ochocinco: "What life. Life is crazy, man…he just got asked a question...his answer was... ‘I raced the way I did because you never know when it's your last one.’" [19:57]
• Personal Reflections & Inspirational Takeaways:
  • Ochocinco admits Busch was a favorite “because he was the villain” [20:52]
  • Sharpe and the crew play a past interview clip that underscores Busch’s acceptance of the villainous role and his competitive spirit [21:02]
  • Final thoughts: "Yesterday is history. Tomorrow's a mystery." – Unk [21:44]
  • "Live each one like it should last, boy." – Ochocinco [21:35]

3. NBA & NFL Culture: Graphics, Rivalries, and The “Hate Machine”

Discussion from 22:00 onwards

• Graphics and Sports Culture Fun:
  • The team jokes about meme graphics depicting NBA and NFL personalities, their quirks, and inside jokes [22:19–24:58]
• Championship Hate & Bandwagoning:
  • Fan question prompts a discussion about why people start to hate on champions and successful franchises (Patriots, Warriors, Chiefs).
    • "Success brings enemies." – Unk [36:14]
    • Ochocinco agrees: "Absolutely." [36:15]
    • "People got tired of seeing (Patriots) always playing in the playoffs, always playing."* – Ochocinco [36:43]
  • Johnson: "That’s just the way it works…comes with the territory." [37:26]

4. Personal Journeys: Rookie Seasons & Making it Out

Fan Q&A begins at 29:08

• Ochocinco, Joe Johnson, and Unk each share rookie-year stories:
  • How the speed of the game or trying to earn a coach's trust was a major hurdle.
  • "I could barely sleep because I was always looking forward to the next day..." – Joe Johnson [31:30]
  • "It was the same, man. I was just coming from Savannah State...We didn't have the complex offense…" – Unk [32:54]
• Advice to Young People:
  • The importance of living below your means, especially when starting out financially, and the real cost of achieving “generational wealth.” [39:13]
    • "You're gonna have to live below your means. Way, way, way below." – Unk [39:27]

5. Leadership, Giving Back & Small-Town Success

Starts at 43:00

• Joe Johnson on Little Rock:
  • He and Sharpe stress the importance of showing kids from small, tough towns that “it’s possible” to make it—whether in the NFL, NBA, or otherwise.
  • "Giving back to our community and where we come from, that's definitely of huge value." – Joe Johnson [44:19]
  • Sharpe: “Unless you see it, you don’t believe it’s possible.” [45:01]

6. Burnout, Offseason Work, and the Cost of Greatness

Discussion from 47:00

• Work Ethic:
  • None of these former pros really took extended breaks. The love of the game kept them coming back.
    • "I enjoy the game, bro. That’s how I was Joe…" – Unk [48:49]
    • "If I had to do it again, I wouldn’t change a thing." – Johnson & Sharpe [50:47]

7. Lighter Moments & Audience Engagement

Scattered throughout Q&A segment

• Hilarious Moments:
  • Ochocinco recounts a catfishing story: "She sent me a pre-COVID photo. I took her down, but I thought I was wrestling Mark Henry." [55:37]
  • Locker room and relationship “don’ts.”
  • Banter about who could “see” who on the field/court: "Been biting since ‘87, boy. Everything." – Ochocinco [66:22]

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Locker Room Code:

  • "That is sacred. Whatever goes on in that locker room...never make it out." – Unk [08:06]
  • "Something that goes on...he probably won't even be part of the goddamn team." – Ochocinco [07:35]

• On Kyle Busch:

  • "Kyle Busch has tragically passed away at the age of 41..." – Unk [19:30]
  • "He just got asked a question... ‘I raced the way I did because you never know when it's your last one.’" – Ochocinco [19:57]

• On Success & Envy:

  • "Success brings enemies." – Unk [36:14]
  • "People got tired of seeing [the Patriots] always playing in the playoffs..." – Ochocinco [36:43]

• Life Lessons:

  • "Yesterday is history. Tomorrow's a mystery." – Unk [21:44]
  • "Giving back to our community...that's definitely of huge value." – Joe Johnson [44:19]
  • "Unless you see it, you don’t believe it’s possible." – Unk [45:01]

---

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 05:00 – Media & locker room code on messy topics
• 19:30 – Announcement: Passing of Kyle Busch
• 21:02 – Replay of Ochocinco interviewing Busch about playing “the villain”
• 22:19 – Joking about sports team memes/graphics
• 29:08 – Q&A: Earliest rookie season memories
• 36:00 – Why fans hate successful teams
• 43:00 – Impact of athletes giving back to their hometowns
• 47:00 – Work ethic & burnout avoidance in pro sports
• 55:37 – Ochocinco’s "catfishing" story

---

Takeaways for Listeners

• The episode is a blend of humor, storytelling, and real talk about the unseen realities of professional sports.
• The hosts are forthright about the unwritten rules that govern locker rooms, how trust among teammates works, and the consequences when that trust is broken.
• The segment on Kyle Busch’s death stands out for its sincerity—a rare moment of pause, reflection, and wisdom about the unpredictability of life.
• Fans are treated as part of the crew, with questions involving rookie struggles, relationships, personal finance, and sports hate all answered with candor and wit.

---

Overall Tone & Style

Authentic, brotherly, and raw—with the hosts leaning into playful roasting, strong opinions, and shared life lessons, all while treating serious moments (like the Busch tribute) with genuine gravity. The chemistry between Unk, Ochocinco, and Joe Johnson makes for engaging, fast-moving conversation, mixing sports expertise with relatable energy.

Transcript

[Unk]

Amazon Health AI presents Painful thoughts I I can't stop scratching my downtown. Mm, yeah, but I'm not itching to go downtown and tell a receptionist I'm here to talk about my downtown. Some things you'd rather type than say out loud. There's no question too embarrassing for Amazon Health AI.

[Announcer]

Chat your symptoms and get virtual care 24. 7 Healthcare just got less painful

[Joe Johnson]

during

[Unk]

Memorial Day at Lowe's Shop household must haves for less. Save $80 on the Char Broil Performance Series 4 Burner Grill to chef up something special, plus get up to 45% off. Select major appliances to keep things fresh. Our best lineup is here at Lowe's. Lowe's we help you Save. Valid through 527, while supplies last. Selection varies by location. See Lowes.com for details. Visit your nearby Lowe's

[Commercial Voice]

OnPlus nicotine pouches present comfort chronicles a 10 o' clock tee time. How comfortable you show up in stretchy shorts, a breathable tee and maybe no socks. Let the dogs breathe while other sweat and pleated khakis. You're in your comfort zone. Bombing drives and in your pocket. On nicotine pouches the softest pouch on the planet. Buy a [e-mail] Products for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older Warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.

[Announcer]

Everybody knows Shaq, but off camera, he's

[Unk]

just a regular guy.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

People never believe me when I say I'm just like them. I take out the trash, do dishes, and I struggle with moderate obstructive sleep apnea, or osa. And a lot of adults with obesity also struggle with moderate to severe osa. You know, those scary breathing interruptions during sleep, the loud snoring, choking and daytime fatigue. I knew I had to talk to my doctor. Don't sleep on the symptoms. Learn more at don't sleep on osa.com

[Announcer]

this information is provided by Lilly, a medicine company. When you own your own business, you need to keep things moving. Need to book a last minute flight? Earn a $300 travel credit to cover that. Need to take a meeting before takeoff? Do it from the comfort of the Chase Sapphire Lounge by the club. Need to catch your breath before you board? Done. Chase Sapphire reserved for business the business card that gives back all you put in. Visit chase.com ReserveBusiness to learn more. Cards issued by JPMorgan Chase bank and a member of FDIC subject to credit approval terms apply.

[Unk]

Hey hey Ojo man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like I said, after we get out

[Unk]

this call Hit me, man. You know, I'm saying, give my number. You know what I'm saying?

[Chad Ochocinco]

We can pull up.

[Unk]

I'll pull up on you. I'll pull up on you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Matter of fact, hold on, hold on.

[Unk]

Wait.

[Orderly Meds Rep]

Where you at?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Where you at?

[Unk]

Anywhere I need to be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, no, I'm saying I'm. I'm in Miami 24 7. I'm saying, where you at?

[Unk]

Anywhere I need to be.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I can be in Miami tomorrow.

[Unk]

You want me to come home? But tomorrow I can look up flights.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I can look up flights, you know what I'm saying?

[Unk]

Whatever.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I fly you in you. You. Well, spirit gone now, but. Hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man. Come on.

[Unk]

Come on, man. Man, at least put me on American, you know what I'm saying? Put me first class on America.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We got to put you on the company.

[Unk]

Put me on American, man. First class. 4A. 4A. 4A.4A. First class. That company don't ex.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, yeah, I appreciate that. Hey, matter of fact, you know what? You know, I like doing. I like doing things in threes, right? So, Joe, you finna get his work? Bp, you finna get his work? And. And tell Giannis, get his swole ass down here, he can get it, too.

[Unk]

Miami.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What'd you say? I mean, Yan is down here already, so. I mean, me and him, we can go at it, too.

[Unk]

Y' all just let me know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I pull up, man. Yeah, you scared?

[Unk]

Yeah, you never know. I'll pull up, man. I pull up. Let me know, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I come tomorrow. For real.

[Unk]

But now. But for real, though, tomorrow I'm going to San Antonio, go watch the alien, man. Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm gonna be there. Like I said, bro. Okay. I got my shoes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, right here with me.

[Unk]

Everywhere I go, my shoes in my bag, my basketball in my bag, and, oh, I got your number. I'm get your number now so you can hear me anytime.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I just.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Just make sure I'm around Wi Fi.

[Unk]

Appreciate that, BP Man. Appreciate that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Unk]

Bobby, that was unbelievable. That was great. Appreciate him taking time out of his busy schedule and coming on and joining us. I appreciate that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, good.

[Unk]

Hey, hey, hey. Go ahead. Go ahead.

[Joe Johnson]

Good dude, too, bro. Hey, y' all know he from Little Rock, too.

[Unk]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know that. We know you, so.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Bobby, good people, man. Good people. Hard working, brother. Man. Hey, hey.

[Unk]

I saw the way you were skinning and grinning once you found out he was gonna be.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I said, damn, BP on here. Yeah, yeah. BP Good dude, bro. Good dude.

[Unk]

Chad, I. I don't I don't really know. I. I think so. I. I just want to know. Joe, let me ask you a question, Ocho. If Bobby Porters went on any other, any other platform, do is it. Do you think they ask him about what Miles Turner said? Yes.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hell yeah.

[Unk]

Yes. So how would we be in messy. If he go. Let's just say for the sake of argument, he goes on espn. Do you think Ernie, Shaq, Chuck or Kenny would ask him about what Miles Turner.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. Yes.

[Unk]

Okay. He said it didn't like that he said so. So what would the follow up be? Is Miles Turner's lying. So he lied. So when he said. When Miles Turner said. When Brianna Stewart asked him who's some of the most repeat offenders. I I paraphrase it and he said Giannis. He could have been cool if he said we got a bunch of guys late. I don't want to name no names. They know who they are. They know the ones that are late for the team play, the team travel. They know the ones that show up late for film study or don't show up at all. They know the ones that show up late for treatment or wait, he would have been fine. No one ever would have suspected. It would have been Giannis because as Joe say, this man is a two time league mvp. He's a defensive player of the year. He's a finals mvp. That was the. They would have thought a lot of other people. I guarantee you not one person would have put attach Giannis name to that statement.

[Joe Johnson]

No.

[Unk]

So for us to ask what about it now we being messy when every other, every other platform he would have been on would have asked the very same question.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Unk]

Hey, we. Hey. Exactly. They would have led with it. We didn't leave with it. We went through a whole hour before we even broached that subject.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, because it went viral too. Like everybody want to know,

[Unk]

but oh, oh, you y'. All, oh, you be a mess. How I all I'm saying, I say so did he lie. So now I'm saying, are you guys gonna have a meeting? You go back into that locker room. I think of something of this magnitude, you have to have a meeting. It was the same thing when we had that situation in 97 with the Romo. We had to have a meeting.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

You can't just turn no blind out of that

[Joe Johnson]

because. Hey, hey, I'm gonna tell you, these teams don't want you giving up no. That type of information, whether it's true or not, whether it's true or Not.

[Unk]

You know what?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, Joe. Y' all not understanding what this man did, man.

[Unk]

I don't understand.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Something that goes. Hold on. Something that goes on. Like you talking about having a meeting. There's nothing to meet about. He probably won't even be part of the goddamn team.

[Unk]

True. But even now, I gotta have a meeting. You can't even trust somebody like that, Ocho. But. But that now. Because that's got.

[Joe Johnson]

Now we need.

[Unk]

Now we need to button the hatches down.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

And we need to let everybody else know. But you know what, Chat. I respect you guys and I appreciate the support, but you're not looking at. See you just looking at it from a fan outside. We're talking about the inner workings of a locker room.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

That is sacred. Whatever goes on in that locker room. There are a lot of things that go on in a locker room that are fights and disagreements and so forth and so on that never make it out.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

And they shouldn't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Not supposed to.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

But I. We didn't lead with. Hey, before we talk about the game, let's talk about what Miles Turner said. We went a whole hour, and I think we worded it as respectful as we possibly could.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. Any honest teammates, they. That's. They gonna get that. They gonna get that question.

[Unk]

Even if they. Even if he not there next year, they're gonna get that question.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Unk]

And guess what? I guarantee you the next time Doc Rivers doesn't interview, no matter the platform, he gonna get it, too.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep. Yep. That's just the way it works.

[Unk]

That's why you have to be careful, because now you put. You put guys that didn't tell the situation. It's the same. Hold up. Somebody said something very similar. That the plane be waiting for Kawhi.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

When Doc was in the Clippers, they said the same thing. Guess what? It's. Guess what the guy's gonna get that was in the locker room with Giannis that are still there next year. Ocho. What? They gonna get asked

[Chad Ochocinco]

same thing. You know, they're gonna break. Gonna brush it off. They gonna brush it off. They're gonna do the same thing BP did. Same thing. Ain't nobody else gonna fall in the trap, especially those that are. That a little bit more savage.

[Unk]

He didn't fall into the trap. Oh, yo. He just blurted it out. It. I can see. If she said, I heard it was Giannis, then he could.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm saying people that are at. People in the locker room that are ass. They're not going to fall into the trap.

[Unk]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They're going to be a little bit more savvy with their answers.

[Unk]

Oh, yeah. Well, he done bought. Miles done boxed him in. They got no choice. Yeah, he boxed him in. They got it. Like, man. No, Giannis was on time. And like I said. I said, damn, the man just lied. He just. Of all the things. Of all the things he could have said. Right? And Joe said, his history, Doc, history is to be very player friendly. Coming from the background, he was a player.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Unk]

And Doc likes coaching veteran players. You go look at his team in Boston, that was a veteran team. You look at his team, and where did he go next? You look at his team in the Clippers, that was a veteran team. You look at his team in Philly, that was a veteran team. You look at his team in Milwaukee, that was a veteran team. So this is the normal. This is standard operating procedure.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

S, O P. So. So this is what he does. I was shocked because I. I sent it to Ash. I was like, did this dude really, just really say that?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

I couldn't believe it. BP said he thought it was AI. I just like. I couldn't believe. I was like. And he said, well, he. I said, bro. And the thing was, they posted it. They knew what. What this was going to do. Then after it goes ky. It got picked up by everybody, they

[Joe Johnson]

take it down too late, damage done. And as Miles Turner, this was his first year in year.

[Unk]

You got to be a.

[Joe Johnson]

That's why.

[Unk]

You know what? That's something you come out with in a book. Yeah. You write that in the book. Years later. Ooh.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Why you still in the locker room? Oh, hell, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey. I'm like, you, hey, the boy gonna be looking at him sideways. He come back up in there.

[Unk]

Absolutely. You talk about somebody. Oh, Joe, you spent 11 years in the locker room. I spent 14. Joe, you spent what, 16. 17. Yeah, 17. We know who talk.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

And soon as guy come. Hey, man, what y' all talking about? Everybody get them dispersed.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Yeah, y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[Unk]

Hell, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey. When you. When you come around and everybody get quiet, you already know.

[Unk]

Hey, that. Hey, that's what I pick up my playbook.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Unk]

You're talking. All you do is go back. Go back and talk. Pillow talk. Pillow talk. Everybody. Everybody got those guys in the room that we know. Pillow talk. And guess what they get. They talk to their wives, their girlfriend, and they get on the phone and talk, and they keep a whole bunch of bull jobs going.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep. Yep. Hey, hey. I'm gonna tell y'.

[Unk]

All, that's what everybody got them in everybody locker room. So I. I ain't breaking news.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. That's the one thing I. I don't want to say. I didn't allow. But, you know, whoever I was with at the time, meaning my partner, my lady, I would always tell her, man, no, do not get involved in nobody wives. Y' all don't need to be hanging out, because I'm gonna tell y' all why I'm gonna tell. I've seen this happen. You know, the wives get together and let's say all us on the same team, we all married. But hell, Unc wife calling Ocho wife to see what uncut. But hell, Unc probably off doing something. He probably. You know, he probably trying to be low. Ocho at the crib now. All this pressure on his ass. Like, I thought y' all was supposed to be. Hold on, hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't get me mixed up in this mess. Nah, I ain't never played that.

[Unk]

And sometimes the wives band together and get against the girlfriends.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you.

[Unk]

You ain't no wife.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. You have a girlfriend.

[Unk]

He just had a different one last.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

You ain't going nowhere with them. Hey, you can do the food drive. Hey, put the jersey on, pass out some. Take some cans.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unk]

Go down to Goodwill or someplace. Salvation Army. And bring some clothes in.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

You think you about to be hanging out.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'm not.

[Unk]

Not on my watch.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Absolutely not.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. We didn't landed at 2 in the morning. Well, has Shannon. Has Shannon made it home yet? Cause I ain't seen. They normally be home by now. Ojo in the bed, damn near sleep. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Joe Johnson]

Look, I don't know. I don't know nothing. I don't know what's going on.

[Unk]

Don't call me. My homeboy. Why say I'll never call Shannon? Cause I already know he gonna lie. You damn right. Don't call me. Don't call me. Cause you know why? I knew him first. I know him through you. Yeah, I know you through him.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

You don't get involved. Because guess what? This is what I found out, and it happened to me. You get involved. They. They all add each other. They get back together.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Now what, Ocho? Now what, Joe? Where am I

[Chad Ochocinco]

looking?

[Unk]

Crazy. Yeah, she mad at me. You ain't got to protect him. I ain't protecting nothing. I'm protecting myself. Y' all leave me out of this. I'mma call the police. Next time you call me, I'mma say I'mma call the police on you.

[Joe Johnson]

Thanks.

[Announcer]

And now Superhuman Shaq.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

I keep telling them not to say that. I'm no superhuman. Believe it or not, I struggle with moderate obstructive sleep apnea, or OSA in adults with obesity. Moderate to severe OSA is a condition where breathing is interrupted during sleep with loud snoring, choking, gasping for air, and even daytime fatigue. Let's just say it can sound a lot like this. Sound familiar? Learn more@don'tsleeponosa.com this information is provided by

[Announcer]

Lilly, a medicine company.

[Unk]

Amazon Pharmacy presents Painful Thoughts of course I see my co worker in line at the pharmacy. Can you tell I'm picking up prescription hemorrhoid cream? I'm probably standing weird. Why is he smiling? He knows he's gonna call me Hemroid Lloyd tomorrow. I know it. I gotta quit my job. Next time, avoid awkward conversations and get fast free delivery with Amazon Pharmacy. Healthcare just got less painful.

[Commercial Voice]

OnPlus nicotine pouches present comfort chronicles at 10 o' clock tee time. How comfortable you show up in stretchy shorts, a breathable tee and maybe no socks. Let the dogs breathe while other sweat and pleated khakis. You're in your comfort z own bombing drives and in your pocket. On nicotine pouches the softest pouch on the planet. Buy a can at on nicotine.com Products for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older. Warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.

[Announcer]

Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services. By Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors, llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete Disclosures available at public.comDisclosures Are you

[Orderly Meds Rep]

trying to get weight loss support through telehealth? But it feels overwhelming and rushed? Check out orderlymeds.com now. Orderlymeds.com was built to be different. Here you connect with real doctors who take the time to understand your goals, review your eligibility, and guide you through a plan that's right for you. Orderly Meds provides access to proven GLP1 medications like semaglutide and Tirzepatide, including both name brand options and personalized compound versions when appropriate. So you have choices backed by clinical oversight, not guesswork. It's a simpler, more supportive telehealth experience designed around people who want clarity, care and confidence in their weight loss journey. And your medication is delivered directly to your home in discreet packaging so your experience stays private from start to finish. Do your research, ask the right questions, then visit orderlymeds.com podcast for an exclusive offer. Again, that's orderlymeds.com podcast. Individual results may vary. Not medical advice eligibility required. C site for details Kyle Busch has

[Unk]

tragically passed away at the age of 41 following a battle with a severe illness. Bush, a two time NASCAR Cup Series champion who was rushed to the hospital earlier in the day. According to his family, it was just three days ago on May 18 that Bush was tweeting a birthday message to his son Braxton, who was starting a racing journey of his own.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Unk]

Kyle Busch dead at the age of 41.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Crazy. What life. Life is crazy, man. He just got asked a question. I think he won a race maybe two or three days ago and he just. And the lady asked a question and his answer was I I somewhere the context like I I raced the way I did because you never know when it's your last one.

[Unk]

Exactly. It.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Unk]

That's it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like that's. That's crazy bro.

[Unk]

You don't know man. You don't know. And you saw he's on the radio. He had the doctor. I think a couple of weeks later he had the doctor come. He wanted to see the doctor immediately after the race. You know he had a severe illness. All they're saying is that he's gonna miss this upcoming race. And then boom. Moments a few hours later this news.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

So our thoughts and prayers go out to Kyle Busch and his family. All those impacted the NASCAR family, the number 18 Eminem car.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, one of my favorite drivers simply because he was the villain.

[Unk]

We have a video of you interviewing Kyle Busch a few years ago. Let's play this for the chat.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No matter what you do in life, you have to be the villain. It's okay to be the villain. The villain at times is glorified and hated by many, but it's a great role to have. Speaking from experience.

[Unk]

Right there. He knows the role.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, that I do. That's why I love you and the way you carry yourself. Your aura, your energy, your you, excuse me type mentality when it comes to racing Guy. Oh, Kyle.

[Unk]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Never know how long you got, boy.

[Unk]

No, hey, you don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you live. Live each one like it should last, boy.

[Unk]

Yesterday is over and tomorrow isn't promised.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[Unk]

Two days. You shouldn't worry about yesterday and tomorrow because guess what? You can't do anything about either one of them. Yesterday is history. Tomorrow's a mystery.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Unk]

Wow. So sad. So, so sad. Switching gears, Joe, did you see the graphic today? This was the best one ever. Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. This, this one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you see? Hey, you see? Hey, you know why it's the best one ever? Look at my pants.

[Unk]

Hey, they got your pants. They got the jacket, man. Look at your computer, Ocho. Pull up your computer.

[Joe Johnson]

What's that? What's that on my computer, man?

[Unk]

Hey, you Adam and Eve. You looking at them gadgets.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Unk]

Here you go, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Unk]

Hey, Andy, got. Look at your reminder. You got the 420. You got the reminder. Ooh, eight. You got to see Oo in the parking lot at five. You got the BTA 1, 4, 8, 9.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unk]

Oo passing out DeAndre 8, the CDL LI he got approved

[Joe Johnson]

N. This, this was hard.

[Unk]

This. Hey, O. O. Hey, Joe. He ain't even see that anaconda sneaking up with his head over the desk. O a see the anaconda?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on, let me. Let me look. Let me look at this real quick. Hold on.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, hold on, hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I ain't see that.

[Unk]

Oh, you about to see it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on. I'm looking there.

[Joe Johnson]

This is wild, though. This is wild.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, okay. Hey, I see it now. I see it now. I see it sitting right there by my crown.

[Joe Johnson]

I look.

[Unk]

Oh, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh?

[Unk]

How you Mr. Anaconda, Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because I, I, I ain't. I ain't Zoom in. You know, I gotta open it up.

[Unk]

Hey, you see me? I got how to write an email. Hey, they got Lakers in five more years, they Got gp. We got. We got bread in that thing.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, look.

[Unk]

Hey, look at it. We got. Look at Jaylen Durham.

[Joe Johnson]

I see Jayla Durham with the missing.

[Unk]

Missing. Yeah, you're fine. Please keep it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, y', all, you got embiid. Embiid wrapped up.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all went off on this one, boy. Yeah.

[Unk]

Hey, hey, look at your hair. Look at Tobias Harris reading Kobe book.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, this was good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

This is really good.

[Unk]

Hey, you see Dylan Brooks peep went out the roof, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I seen people. Hey, hey, what GP over there showing? Jalen. Yeah, I see Dylan. What GP over there showing all else. This is too funny. This is too funny.

[Unk]

Yeah, that was the best one. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Graphics, y'. All did y' all thing on that one?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, yeah, this was a good one. This was a good one.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, is that. Is that Gary? That's Gary.

[Unk]

Got the police uniform.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All right. Yeah, that's Jalen Bray. Jalen Brown sitting there.

[Unk]

Yeah, they got Thompson got off got reading Office for Dummies.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, they. Hey, this one here went out.

[Unk]

Yeah, this is the best one. This is the best one. Graphic, y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[Unk]

Did y' all think on this one?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Unk]

Chad, what y' all think? Is this the best one?

[Announcer]

And now superhuman shack.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

I keep telling them not to say that. I'm no superhuman. Believe it or not, I struggle with moderate obstructive sleep apnea, or osa in adults with obesity. Moderate to severe OSA is a condition where breathing is interrupted during sleep, with loud snoring, choking, gasping for air, and even daytime fatigue. Let's just say it can sound a lot like this. Sound familiar? Learn more at don't sleep on OSA.com

[Announcer]

this information is provided by Lilly A medicine company.

[Unk]

Amazon Health AI presents painful thoughts. Why did I search the Internet for answers to my cold sore problem? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic sores

[Orderly Meds Rep]

in various stages of ooze.

[Unk]

I can clear my search history, but

[Martha Stewart]

I could never unsee that.

[Announcer]

Don't go down the rabbit hole. Amazon Health AI gets you the right care fast. Healthcare just got less painful.

[Commercial Voice]

Onplus nicotine pouches present Comfort Chronicles at 10 O' Clock Tea time. How comfortable you show up in stretchy shorts, a breathable tee, and maybe no socks. Let the dogs breathe while other sweat and pleated khakis. You're in your comfort zone. Bombing drives. And in your pocket, on plus nicotine pouches, the softest pouch on the planet. Buy a [e-mail] Products for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older. Warning this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.

[Announcer]

Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public, you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc, SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures when

[Orderly Meds Rep]

people turn to healthcare for weight loss, they're looking for real support. That's why more people are choosing orderlymeds.com orderly meds connects you with real doctors and access to proven GLP1 medications like semaglutide and Tirzepatide. No guessing, just a more supportive experience and all shipped directly to your door in discreet packaging. Do your research, ask questions, then visit orderlymeds.com podcast for an exclusive offer. That's orderlymeds.com podcast. Individual results may vary. Not medical advice. Eligibility required. See Cite for details.

[Unk]

All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Before we get to the Super Chat, we got two video voicemails from our discord. Let's take a listen to the first one. Still what up Nightcap, Fam, Unc, Ocho

[Joe Johnson]

and still King ISO. Got a question for all three y'.

[Unk]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

The question is without most Remember y'

[Unk]

all rookie season and the second question of Unk.

[Joe Johnson]

Do you still think Ray Bucane is ugly?

[Unk]

And would you still not help him in a snowstorm? Ojo, what do you remember from your rookie season?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, what I most remember my rookie season Was. I mean, the speed of the game, the NFL was completely different. Obviously, I bounced around from school to school, so I never played at the highest level when it comes to D1 football. So the transition in playing at Oregon State for, you know, for damn near four months, not even a whole year. I was there for four months, went into the draft, got to the NFL, and I get there really not understanding or knowing what it was going to be like. And again, the speed of the game was. Was, my goodness, it was fast. So I did my best to learn from, you know, Peter Work at that time. Danny Farmer was there. Ron Dugan was there. For those who remember, you know, Danny Farmer from ucla, Ron D, And Peter Ward from. From Florida State. And Darnay Scott was the main man. Achilles Smith was a quarterback at the time. Corey Dillon was there, Big Willie. Just. Just. Just watching him and trying to understand what it was like to be a professional. You know, early. Early in my career, it was kind of hard because at that time, the Bengals were. I mean, they were the laughing stock of the NFL. They were the laughing stock of the NFL. So, I mean, I had to find my way. And that. That was. That was, you know, the gist of my, you know, my.

[Joe Johnson]

My rookie season, Joe, my rookie year, bro. Just. Just trying to show that I belong, you know what I mean? Like, I remember playing with. I'm talking about just before the season started. You know, we get there probably a month early, before training camp. And we used to play pickup and work out, and I'm with Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce, Walter McCarty, Eric Williams, Tony Bati. Like, we had Kenny Anderson, the point guard. Like, we real veteran team. And I remember, bro, just trying to soak up all the knowledge that I could, Uncle Ocho, because the one thing I understood, I said, damn, I ain't. They ain't gonna really need me to score, but damn, I want coach to be able to have to play me. I want to play, you know what I mean? And I remember. I remember it so vividly, bro, just trying to figure out a way how I could get on the court. And I always tell cats, before any of this ISO stuff that y' all hear about, bro, these are just moments that have happened throughout the game. But, bro, defensively, I was trying to be a damn menace. It didn't matter who they needed me to guard. I was going, look, it would be times I get three shots, it'd be time I get 12 shots. Hell, I never knew, you know what I mean? But the fact that I was playing in the NBA, living out a real childhood dream. If I was in awe my whole rookie year, I'm telling y', all, I could barely sleep, bro. I could barely sleep because I was always looking forward to the next day, the next practice. Hell, I felt in the late, early 2000s, you know, the game was so different. You had so many superstars, you know, playing against T, Mac, Vince Carter, MJ coming back, Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, all these dudes in the Eastern Conference, bro, like every night. AI, huh? AI, AI. All these dudes in the Eastern Conference. So every night we had a premier matchup. You know, Paul Pierce matched up against whoever. And I remember I had to guard all these dudes the first three quarters and he would take them in the fourth quarter, man, I used to enjoy that, bro. I had so much fun my rookie year. I know it was short lived in Boston for six months and then I got traded to Phoenix. But man, my rookie year was such a blur, man. I'm telling you, I could barely sleep, bro.

[Unk]

It was the same, man. I was just coming from Savannah State, didn't have. We didn't have the complex offense. Our offense was very simplistic. It worked for us. You know, we didn't have, you know, a tight end coach, a wide receiver coach, a running back coach, all that, you know, O line coach, an offensive coordinator, all that other stuff. But, you know, hey, I just, just plugged away and learned what I could. What really threw me for a loop is that when they moved me to tight end because I had just really felt comfortable learning the plays as a wide receiver.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Now I go back and I gotta learn. I was like, man, Lord have mercy. I said, man, Lord, Starting to question myself and say, man, am I, am I, Do I have a learning disability? Because why can't I get this?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

And I just remember my brother's like, bro, just remember, like you remember everything else. He like, bro, you remember everything from my childhood. From the time you was five. And it just like I said, man, I'm just go home, get my playbook and just like, just remember, okay, this, got this, this, this, this, this, this. Because it didn't make sense.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

1, 3, 5 was to the right, 1357 is to the right, 2, 4, 6, 8 to the left. In what playbook in who learned that? Odd numbers to the right, even numbers to the left. The tight end is the X. That ain't what a tight end is, Ocho. Tight end has always been. Why? So now you got the wing which is the Z receiver. The Y is, is The X receiver, wing three. Y. Dig? Yeah, exactly. Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

See?

[Unk]

You see how you looking? X was the tight end, whatever. But I got through it. I was like, man, I just want. I say bye. I just got to do enough to stay on this team so they can come, so I can come back. Got in the playbook in the off season. Knew everything. Knew everything I was supposed to learn. Still knew my slot because I was still, you know, they would but put me out to the slot. And to answer your question, no, I ain't picking Ray ass up. Yeah, here's the second. Here's the second one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What's up, Ocho? ISO Nightcap family. Don't mind the ski mask, man. I'm on my way to get deandre A and chain.

[Unk]

I got you. I got you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But my question is now, like, teams that win the championship now, man, why everybody keep hating on them, man?

[Unk]

They. It used to be people coming to bandwag.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now they hating on the team, boy.

[Unk]

Like, okay, see, when. Oh, it's the refs. We lose. Oh, Wimby. Oh, Wimy. Come on, man. Respect.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Respect our dub, man.

[Unk]

Y' all don't know what we've been

[Chad Ochocinco]

through as an organization, man.

[Unk]

Come on, now. Come on, man. We got out the mud. But it's true to Ocho, if you think about it. Success brings enemies.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Absolutely.

[Unk]

It used to be you win two or three, they like, and you know that. Let somebody else win. Now you have a little success, they got to have a reason. You did something sinister.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Why you have a success? It ain't that you work hard. You. I mean, you. All your life, you've been doing this, and they don't see all. You had to have done something. You sold your soul to the devil. The Illuminati.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Absolutely. Yeah. Hey, you look. You look at it, People. How many people hate the goddamn Patriots over the years when they were winning, because they consistently win over and over and over, and people got tired of seeing them always playing in the playoffs, always playing.

[Unk]

But that was after Ocho. That was after they had done one. Three. The first three, everybody loved them. All of a sudden, they won four, then they won five. Come on, man. Let somebody else win. Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And then we just got the same thing with the Chiefs early on. Consistently winning over and over in the regular season, consistently winning over and always in contention. We got damn home. So, I mean, this. This is what you get. This is what. This is what you get.

[Unk]

Go ahead, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes. It comes with the territory, man. I just feel like, you know, when you think about the run that the warriors had? I think people kind of started. They got tired of the warriors after about three. After about three championships, I know they was able to get four. Yeah. So I kind of understand what he's saying, too. Like, you know, give OKC some credit, which I always give him credit, but, you know, he feel like they on top of the throne until somebody actually knocked them off.

[Unk]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, stop talking about this. This damn spurs gonna win or spurs in the final. So I can kind of get. I get where he coming from.

[Unk]

Tony, Andretti, everybody. Go vote for the one and only. If you meet another, it's a phony. The original nightcap. Also next in five and still King Ocho. What?

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man. Come on.

[Unk]

As a CAB fan, I like Evan, but Giannis is light years better. Let's be real. Have to quit thinking. Evan will be a consistent 25 and 10 guy. Trade for the Freak. Now, you do realize if you trade for it, he's gonna want a max extension. Donovan. Donovan Mitchell is going to want a max extension.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I don't see him going there, though. I'm sorry.

[Unk]

I don't either. J Dub, Akron. The drive. The fumble. The decision. Collapsed. Bta. Hashtag curse. Yes, the drive. Elway had to drive in 86 and 80s. That was 86. He had to drive, and then 87 was the fumble. You're right, LeBron. The decision and then the collapse. You're right. Yeah. What's up, y'?

[Joe Johnson]

All?

[Unk]

I'm 21, newly married, gonna make 100k this year, but I want to reach the next level and be the first in my family to reach generational wealth. What advice for the future do you guys have?

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. Married at 21.

[Unk]

Well, hey, hopefully, if you stay married, that's the quickest way. Because if you don't stay married, it's gonna be a while before you get there. Cause you do realize she's gonna take. She's gonna take half, and she's gonna take half your pension, so just understand that. Second of all, you're gonna have to live below your means. Way, way, way below. Because a hundred thousand is not a hundred thousand. When Ocho and I and Joe was growing up, yeah, things are a lot more costly now. Homes, gas, cars, living. I don't know if you have any kids. I don't know how soon you plan on having kids. They're a lot more expensive. Daycare is a lot more expensive back then. You ain't gonna daycare. You got dropped off at your cousin, though. Your aunt House. Your grandma house. That was the daycare.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Auntie house. Yes, I remember the days.

[Unk]

So I'm just, I'm just being real with you, bro. Hey, but congratulations, Michael. That's for you, Ocho. Nixon 4, baby.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah.

[Unk]

The Cav shot their load in game one. With that being said, Nixon for the real question is, what's the easiest path? Spurs or okc? Neither.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ain't nothing. Ain't neither one. Whoever you get ain't gonna feel.

[Unk]

Rick loves his hot prediction. LeBron returns home next season and finish his career in Cleveland. What a better way to end a docu series. By ending the story where it all began. East path to another ring. Ain't nothing easy about no rings now, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah. But you, you, you, you in that Western Conference. You see the gauntlet. Hey, I, I, I kind of, I kind of understand where you coming from. You go to that if Braun go to the East. You know, every night won't be such a, you know, a stiff night. You don't get no off night. Nuggets, huh?

[Unk]

Go to the Nuggets.

[Joe Johnson]

You don't get no off night in that West. You don't get no off night here. You playing a juggernaut every damn night.

[Unk]

TS Car Wash Detail Service. Tyreek Evans or O.J. mayo?

[Joe Johnson]

Tyree. Tyreek Evans or O. J. Mayo?

[Unk]

I think O.J. got hurt. Really? Tyreek was, was a rookie of the year. I don't know what happened to him.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, tell him about Tyreek Evans.

[Unk]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Who played for Sacramento.

[Unk]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think something happened, man. Well, I think he got banned from the NBA. Uncle Ocho. I think he went overseas.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn. He got, he got banned.

[Unk]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause he was nice. He won rookie of the year. He averaged 20 points, five assists, five rebounds.

[Unk]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Like, he was nice. He was nice. I. I came. I don't, I don't really. I don't know what happened, man. His career was short lived, though. But you talking about somebody who has some game. That boy was nice.

[Unk]

Knicks match up better with the Spurs. They don't want no, they don't want that OKC smoke. I don't think they match up good with the Spurs.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't either.

[Unk]

Don't nobody really match up with him. Cause don't nobody match up with Wimby.

[Joe Johnson]

Nope.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bingo.

[Unk]

Shannon posted ISO. How disheartened is it to always see your hometown on these top 10 dangerous cities in the States? How important is it for people like you or Darren McFadden to help encourage the youth coming from Little Rock?

[Joe Johnson]

Man, that's Huge. That's the place that raised us. That's where we grew up. That's where we learned whether it was Darren McFadden playing football or myself playing basketball. And, you know, you don't want to stray too far away, man. You know, you always want to be able to reach back, you know, get them kids some hope, some aspirations, and let them know that they can, that it's possible. You know what I mean? Because when you come from these small places like this, bro, you know, sometimes, man, you know, you. You don't think it's possible, because I'm gonna be honest with y'.

[Unk]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

When I was growing up, until I got to the 10th grade, meaning I was about 15 years old, is when I. When I really felt I really had a chance to play professional ball. But as a kid, kid in junior high and all that, I ain't gonna lie to y', all, I, I, I didn't. I didn't know if it was possible, you know what I mean? And when I got to high school, I was playing and competing with guys like Corliss Williamson, Scotty Thurman, you know, all the former Razorbacks. So to me, that was the NBA. You know what I mean? Damn, if I could be a Razorback, hell, I'd be all right. I'd be a hell of a player. So once I got to that point, I was like, oh, yeah, Yeah, I got a real chance. So giving back to our community and where we come from, that's definitely a huge value.

[Unk]

I agree, Joe. I think the thing is, for us is that now they have so many options. You have, you know, you have these seven. They have these camps. You have, you know, football camps, and you have people that are from there. I mean, we didn't see anybody. We didn't know anybody from Glimmer that ever really gone to college, let alone play college football, play college, anything. And, and, and, and, and to, to finally make that happen and to see that. Hold on. These guys are from Glenville? Yeah, we're from Glenville, Georgia.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

And Coach hall was our coach also.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

And Elaine Kills was my teacher. Austin kills. Mr. Kills was my principal. Yep. So a lot of the teachers that you guys had. We had.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Unk]

So, yeah, it doesn't guarantee everybody's gonna make it out of there, because everybody that was in my class didn't make it. Nope. But to. To, to know that it's possible sometimes, unless you see it, you don't believe it's possible.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you don't, bro.

[Unk]

I, you know, I I. You know, my brother tell the story all the time. He said, man, me and that joker looked at the same window, and we saw two different things. Oh, yeah, and he coming on, too. He gonna come on. He said, he would have come on. He said he wanted to jump in the comments, he said, because he saw people saying that that didn't happen, but my grandmother did and all that. He said, I saw it. He said, but I got distracted. He said, but I'm gonna come on. Yeah, I'm gonna set the record straight. He said, but because people see me say, I'll be at a golf tournament. He said, your man said. You say your brother said this? He said, man, well, first of all, my brother ain't telling y' all what really happened. He just telling y' all the version that he can tell on air. He said that Joker would have write a book, then he could put it all in there. He said, me and him don't really have a problem talking about it. I don't talk about it as much. Obviously, I don't have the platform that he does. He said, but my sister just cringe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unk]

He said, but he gonna come on and tell the story. Cause I didn't tell this part. Cause when I told my grandmother that me and Lanny got a dollar raise, she said, that was too much money.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Unk]

a dollar is too much. And then you go tell a man, I should have swung on Granny, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, listen. Hey, I know them days, boy.

[Unk]

Man, that woman. Hey, that woman give us her last. Yeah, that woman gave us her last. I don't care what nobody said. Grandparents love the grandkids more than they love their own kids.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, for sure. For sure.

[Unk]

Her kids would come ask for money. I ain't got no money.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Ready?

[Unk]

We need X, Y and Z.

[Joe Johnson]

They make it happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Unk]

And come up with somebody from somewhere.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Unk]

Neither the Knicks nor the Cows beating any team that come out of the West. I don't care if it goes seven games.

[Joe Johnson]

And that's why we say, you know, to some, they feel like the Western Conference finals is the finals.

[Unk]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

But you.

[Unk]

Hey, he.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, due to all these injuries. And like I always said, man, the west gonna beat each other up. Hell, by the time they get to the finals, you gotta hope they have some guys left to play here.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk]

What's up, Nightcap? What's the best way to avoid burnout? You guys talk about all the work that you put in, about your craft. How often will you take breaks? If you ever did None.

[Joe Johnson]

I didn't, bro, I'm talking about. And hey, hey, no lie. I'm talking about as soon as the season was over with, whether we was in the playoffs or not, I was going straight home. We had a summer league at the Dunbar rig. Bro, listen, this thing used to be off the meter. It used to be jumping, Uncle Ocho. Back home in Little Rock. I couldn't wait to get back home and play in that. I'm talking about that was three months right there, straight basketball. Two, three games a week. So I never really took breaks like that, bro.

[Unk]

Nope, I didn't. I took about a month off, then I'm right back in.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I took about a month off, but it wasn't. It wasn't. It was a gradual increase.

[Unk]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I. We start hitting it back right away.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, no.

[Joe Johnson]

And listen, look, hey, hey. I remember one season I was playing in Phoenix. Soon as the season was over with, the very next day, my high school, Little Rock Central High School, we had a, like a student faculty game. And I came home and played in that, like, season just was over the day before.

[Unk]

Wow.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I. I enjoy the game, bro.

[Unk]

That's how I was, Joe. I mean, if you don't eat enough, you don't get enough rest, you'll get burned out. But if you getting rest. And I don't know about y', all, but as hard as I was working out, I couldn't wait to get my ass into bed. Yeah, I'm sleep, I'm sleep at 9, 9:30, 10 o' clock at the absolute latest.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, if you get. If you go and get up, go and get up and get that work in, I promise. I'm talking about when I say get up and go and get it in. If you can get up by like 6, I'm talking about really get some work in by 9 o'.

[Unk]

Clock.

[Joe Johnson]

When. 9 o', clock roll around 9 o' clock in the evening. Your ass gonna be tired if you ain't took no long nap.

[Unk]

Yeah, I. My schedule was on what I would be if I was in Denver. So I worked at it. I worked out at like, like at 9. So I got up at 7 o' clock to eat. Ate a good solid breakfast, you know, oatmeal, egg whites. Drank about a, you know, half a bottle, half a, you know, 1 to 1.5 liters. Drank about a half a bottle of that. And I go lay back down till about 8:15. I would shower, get up, make my way to the track because we gonna run at 9:30. I'm at the track by 9. I'm stretching, you know, getting everything running. Hit it 9, 30 till about 11:15. We run, I go home, I eat, I shower, I take a nap, I get back up, I shower again. Now I'm going to the gym, get another hour and a half, two hours of lifting back home. Eat, watch tv, eat a snack. I'm in the bed. Sometimes I watch tv. I would go weeks without watching tv. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that training has to be the distraction.

[Unk]

It has distracted living all them heavy ass. That heavy ass weight running.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, them some good days though, bro. If I had to do it again,

[Unk]

I wouldn't change a thing.

[Joe Johnson]

All over.

[Unk]

Wouldn't change a thing. Do you think LeBron is going to want to play with Harden and Cleveland?

[Joe Johnson]

I think he'll take a lot of pressure off Harden. I think they, they actually take pressure off each other. If I'm just being 100. It's just when you rely on him for so much. Now, if you got James Harden, donovan, Mitchell and LeBron, I feel like offensively they can take some pressure off each other. But damn, you're gonna need somebody who can play some damn defense.

[Unk]

Thank you. Hello. Point guard, shooting National Guard. Nixon 4. What's up? Ocho and ISO. You seen that update Rashid Rice? Man, some guys just don't learn. Like, come on, bro, he young, man. He just got to get it, bro. You own, bro, they told you a part of your probation, no drugs. What they.

[Joe Johnson]

What do you get? He got caught with something.

[Unk]

They test you. He. They put him on probation for the incident that he had, the excessive speeding. That's why I don't get with these guys. Excessive speeding. You just saw Henry Ruggs, three years, first round draft pick, Ocho. 100 plus miles an hour, slamming the back, kill the lady.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boom.

[Unk]

Go to jail. Yeah, I mean, think about how many people that that has happened to. Come on, guys. And Rasheed, you got drag. A part of the condition of your release of not doing any time was you couldn't have any drugs in your system. They're gonna test you. I just hope crazy. I just hope he gets the help, you know, Bro, don't mess this up. Don't mess this up, bro. There's so much money to be made

[Joe Johnson]

for weed.

[Unk]

For weed. Everybody talking about we. I don't care if it's legal. It's not legal if you get caught and they put your ass on probation.

[Joe Johnson]

Facts.

[Unk]

They said no drugs. Yeah, I know y', all, man. We, they. I don't care. They don't want to hear any about that because he agreed to it. He could have said, no, I can't do without that weed. Let me go on to do my time in jail so I can get out and smoke as much as I want to. He could have done that. He didn't have to take this plea. But if you take the plea, Ocho, you got to adhere to the. Yeah, to what the agreement says.

[Joe Johnson]

So what? Hey, hey. They gonna suspend him, you think?

[Unk]

I don't think they'll suspend him. He in jail. He just had surgery a week ago. Guess what they don't do in jail. Ocho and Joe. Rehab, Rehab.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Rehab. You see, you hit it right on the nose.

[Joe Johnson]

Now,

[Unk]

it could be a possibility. I, I. I've seen guys. We've had guys on the team, they did some stuff. They had to do some time. The jail was right next to the facility. Guess what they do. Game an hour, game an hour. Go get rehab. They walk right back to the jail

[Joe Johnson]

after they're done, man, get out of here.

[Unk]

I swear for God.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Unk]

Walk right back. Hey, get the rehab and go. Walk right back to jail. Come back walking distance. You had no car. When you gonna get there?

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Unk]

Walk right across the field. Like I said, man, I don't see some things. I don't see how to solve some things. About time, guys. What's good and still big ISO as a Hawks fan, Bad memories come to mind when I see BP this year, the Bucs won the title. He and Giannis killed us in the Eastern Conference finals that year. BP was gassed up. He said it. He said when Giannis went down with a hyperextended knee. I thought that was a great chance for the, for the Hawks. Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. No, no. Bp Step right in. He always. He's always been. Been a. Been a real professional, bro. Any. Anytime he gets his opportunity to play, I promise. Y' all can go look at the numbers, bro. He gonna. That boy can manage. Some way, somehow, he gonna get him 20 and 10. You know what I mean? He a great asset to a team. For real.

[Unk]

Hey, I o your ISO. I got catfished on land a few days ago. She sent me a pre Covid photo. I took her down, but I thought I was wrestling Mark Henry.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you, You. You went in there anyway, huh?

[Unk]

Hey, hey, you don't come too far. Oh, Jojo.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Sometimes you gotta take. Sometimes you gotta take more.

[Unk]

Take one for the team, man. But, hey, sometimes guys, they ain't even no team. They just taking it for the damn self. Hey hey, that's the problem. It wasn't even no team. He was just him on his own.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, well the one thing he knew, the one thing he knew. Wasn't nobody gonna know about it unless he, unless he told.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that boy said Pre Covid Man

[Unk]

Kobe 6 years ago. Don't know if you mentioned this, but what are your thoughts on the NAACP telling high school athletes not to enroll in any state funded school in the south, especially the ones in the SEC and the acc?

[Joe Johnson]

Who said this?

[Unk]

The naacp because of the the gerrymandering. I think that's what it has to to do with the gerrymandering. I think it's just hard for these kids because these kids feel like these are the best places that's going to help them. And now Superhuman Shack I keep telling

[Shaquille O'Neal]

them not to say that. I'm no superhuman. Believe it or not, I struggle with Moderate obstructive sleep apnea or OSA in adults with obesity. Moderate to severe OSA is a condition where breathing is interrupted during sleep, with loud snoring, choking, gasping for air and even daytime fatigue. Let's just say it can sound a lot like this. Sound familiar? Learn more at don't sleep on OSA.com

[Announcer]

this information is provided by Lilly A Medicine company.

[Unk]

Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts why did I search the Internet for answers to my cold sore problem? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic sores

[Orderly Meds Rep]

in various stages of ooze.

[Unk]

I can clear my search history, but

[Martha Stewart]

I can never unsee that.

[Announcer]

Don't go down the rabbit hole. Amazon Health AI gets you the right care fast. Healthcare just got less painful.

[Commercial Voice]

OnPlus nicotine pouches present comfort chronicles a 10 o' clock tea time. How comfortable you show up in stretchy shorts, a breathable tee and maybe no socks. Let the dogs breathe while other sweat and pleated khakis. You're in your comfort zone, its own bombing drives and in your pocket. On nicotine pouches the softest pouch on the planet. Buy a can at on nicotine.com Products for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older. Warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.

[Announcer]

Support for the show comes from public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On public, you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI, it all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year. You can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosure is available at public.com disclosures

[Orderly Meds Rep]

lost support through telehealth, but it feels overwhelming and rushed. Check out orderlymeds.com now. Orderlymeds.com was built to be different. Here you connect with real doctors who take the time to understand your goals, review your eligibility, and guide you through a plan that's right for you. Orderly Meds provides access to proven GLP1 medications like semaglutide and Tirzepatide, including both name brand options and personalized compound versions when appropriate. So you have choices backed by clinical oversight, not guesswork. It's a simpler, more supportive telehealth experience designed around people who want clarity, care and confidence in their weight loss journey. And your medication is delivered directly to your home in discreet packaging so your experience stays private from start to finish. Do your research, ask the right questions, then visit orderlymeds.com podcast for an exclusive offer. Again, that's orderlymeds.com podcast. Individual results may vary. Not medical advice, eligibility required. See Cite for details.

[Unk]

Get to the next level, which is go to the NFL. Some some of these kids have dreamed their whole life of playing for these institutions. Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Unk]

And I get it. I get it. It's different now. It's different now. It it really is. It's just different than kids. I don't know. I unders I understand both sides. I I we're here. We're here. We're in this situation now. Winning.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk]

Why is Castle allowed to grow his hair out and sell sell calls with it looking like he get whiplash every time he's touched? His fault. He gets his hair gets pulled. No, you can't deliberately grab somebody. This is not the NFL. The NFL says hair is a part of the equipment it's part of your uniform. You're absolutely right, Ocho. So you see guys get tackled by you, see guys get their stuff pulled out in basketball is not a part of your uniform.

[Joe Johnson]

No, son.

[Unk]

You can't intentionally. You can't grab a guy's hair. It's funny how everybody's saying you got to be physical with women, but if you breathe, touch, Shay, it's a whistle. Double standard. Going crazy right now, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I told the shade, what, six years?

[Unk]

Six, seven? Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's a bunch of people in the goddamn NBA. Same height as Shay. Obviously, his skill set is a little different depending on who he's playing night. You know, each night, Wimby is completely different. You have to be physical. It's the only way you're gonna have a chance to do anything with someone that goddamn tall. Everybody's at a disadvantage. Everybody. That's the only reason why I think the ref are gonna hold that whistle tomorrow. You'll see. Even. And they playing. And.

[Joe Johnson]

And they playing in San Antonio.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unk]

I don't think it's. I don't think it's his height that's the problem. I think it's his skill that's the problem because we've seen a lot of tall guys. Yeah, hell, DeAndre ain't getting physical with him. There are a lot of. A lot of tall guys, but it's his skill. Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

That's a separator.

[Unk]

Yep. Wish CP3 would have stayed with the spurs this season. One more year mentoring them guards, and right now he would be valuable.

[Joe Johnson]

Cp, CP would be valuable. But it's kind of like you look at Kyle Lowry over there for the Philadelphia 76ers. His ass. When last time y' all seen him get in the game. He ain't got in no damn game.

[Unk]

Yeah, when they lose him by 30, when they lose them by 35 and there's four minutes left in the game.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but the thing is, CP want to play. And hell, if you got Fox and Harper and now, I mean, they.

[Unk]

They.

[Joe Johnson]

They will want to use him more as a player's coach.

[Unk]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, right. He got too many guards.

[Unk]

ISO, which buzzer beater felt Sweeter? Toronto in 2014, the Clippers in 2017. Ocho, how would you feel we would have done against the 70s Raiders defense? Which buzzer beater, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna say the Clippers. The one in the playoffs. You know, I remember being in Utah and probably about the last five or six games we were teetering with the Clippers. As far as the Four and the five seed, right? And I remember Quinn Snyder. We had a team, me, we was watching film, actually, and we was talking about what seed we trying to get. Obviously we trying to get the highest seed. And I just said, I don't mind us playing on the road first. Because we had so many guys who had never been in the postseason. I was like. Because we can sit here and tell these guys what the post season is like, what the playoffs is like, but until they get their ass out there in it, that's when they're really truly understanding. And when you're on the road, maybe you can squander a game away. But by the time we get home to games three and four, we'll know what type of intensity we need to play with. And obviously, you know, we went on to win that series. So that was probably the. One of the most memorable ones, because that was game one.

[Unk]

Ocho, how would you have done against the 70 Raiders?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I would have gave them boys that business. And they were playing man to man. They in your face, too. Hey, hey, hey, who. Hey, who was that that come up there with that wide ass?

[Unk]

The Hayes man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let Lester bring his ass up there with that wide ass dance. He gonna get. He gonna get left right there in that spot.

[Unk]

They had Willie Brown, Lester, they had a defense. Good look, they were just.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, really good defense back there.

[Unk]

Boy, you better catch a passing duck. Cause Jack, you know, Jack Tatum the assassin was back there.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Knocking, knocking heads off.

[Unk]

Boy, they've been dirty. Boy, they gave the right name. The Raiders. We need a nightcap stream at the World Cup. Ocho, take the guys to a game. I'm heart.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm ready.

[Unk]

Yeah. What you say?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I say we out, man. What's up?

[Unk]

We're gonna do something. Hardenstein need to watch out or else the spurs fan gonna be after him like Yolanda. After what he. She saw, what she. Oh, what she did to Selena. He better watch out now. Ghost first. Go. Yeah, she came up for parole. She gonna stay her ass in jail. ISO, please tell me Ocho doing this talking for tv. Ocho could see ISO or BP if he had binoculars in his hand. Love you guys, man.

[Joe Johnson]

He just.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How you gonna tell? Yeah, you gonna tell me what I can. Who I can see and who I can't? Just because you feel like you can't, don't tell me what I can't do. You sound like my teachers in high school, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. They know you all. They know you all Bark no bite.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, I've been. I'VE been biting since 87 boy since 87 I've been biting boy everything

[Unk]

that concludes this episode of Nightcap. Want to thank you guys for joining us. The Knicks take a 20 lead 109 to 93. Jalen Brunson 19 points, 14 assists which was the most by Nick Player since 1998. Josh Hart stole the show. He had 26 points on 10 of 21 shooting, 4 rebounds, 7 assists. Cat had another double double. OG was in double figures and Mikhail Bridges was a double figure. They shot 52% from the floor and they ride a pretty good shooting night and they win by 16109 to 93. Now the Cavaliers will see if they can browse back at home on Saturday. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite. That is my partner and co host. That is Liberty City's own the former Pro Bowler and All Pro from the Cincinnati Bengals. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the third member of the Big three, that is the smooth shooting two guard, the seven time NBA All Star from the Atlanta Hawks University of Arkansas alumni. That is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys so much for your support and your continued support because all this is all because of you. None of this can be accomplished without you. So thank you for your eyes, ears and your word of mouth. Again, thank you for your support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by La Portier head over to laportierconjac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. Two sizes. The OG the 750 and the Junior the 375. Same great quality, same great taste, the same smoothness. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. We've been nominated for four Hashtag Sports Awards in 2026 Best Brand Partnership for Nightcap Outside with Row, Best Podcast, Best Athlete Podcast, Best Use of Live Video. That link is pinned in the chat. Go vote. You can vote as many times as you like and help Nightcap bring home some more hardware. We want to thank our very, very special guest joining us tonight, NBA champ from the Milwaukee Buck, Bobby Porters. Bobby, appreciate you. Look forward to seeing you again down the road. The Next beat the Cavs 109 93. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We'll see you tomorrow night. We'll see if the spurs can bounce back in game three at home I'm unk, he's Ocho, he's ISO. See you tomorrow night. Peace. Sam.

[Announcer]

Everybody knows Shaq, but off camera, he's

[Unk]

just a regular guy.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

People never believe me when I say I'm just like them. I take out the trash, do dishes, and I struggle with moderate obstructive sleep apnea, or osa. And a lot of adults with obesity also struggle with moderate to severe osa. You know those scary breathing interruptions during sleep, the loud snoring, choking and daytime fatigue? I knew I had to talk to my doctor. Don't sleep on the symptoms. Learn more at don'tsleeponosa.com this information is

[Announcer]

provided by Lilly, a medicine company.

[Orderly Meds Rep]

Lots of support through telehealth, but it feels overwhelming and rushed. Check out orderlymeds.com now. Orderlymeds.com was built to be different. Here you connect with real doctors who take the time to understand your goals, review your eligibility, and guide you through a plan that's right for you. Orderly Meds provides access to proven GLP1 medications like semaglutide and Tirzepatide, including both name brand options and personalized compound versions when appropriate. So you have choices backed by clinical oversight, not guesswork. It's a simpler, more supportive telehealth experience designed around people who want clarity, care and confidence in their weight loss journey. And your medication is delivered directly to your home in discreet packaging so your experience stays perfect private from start to finish. Do your research, ask the right questions, then visit orderlymeds.com podcast for an exclusive offer. Again, that's orderlymeds.com podcast. Individual results may vary. Not medical advice. Eligibility required. See Cite for details. This is Sophia Donner from OK Storytime this Summer. Find your next obsession on Prime Video and listen. We're not saying you need another obsession, but there could be a lot worse ones. Steamy romance, addictive love stories, and the book to screen favorites you've already read twice, so why not watch them a third time off campus? Elle, the Love Hypothesis and More Slow Burns Second Chances chemistry you can feel through the screen and it makes you wish you were actually in that movie. We've got binge worthy series can't miss movies. Perfect for when you're ignoring your own problems or procrastinating as one does. Your next obsession is waiting. Watch only on Prime.

[Martha Stewart]

This is Martha Stewart from the Martha Stewart Podcast. Ever wonder how to make hosting look effortless? Here's a secret Getting ahead of the mess with new Reynolds Kitchens countertop prep paper Just lightly Wet the counter beforehand so the paper grips and stays in place. Then lay down the Reynolds Kitchens countertop prep paper so drips and spills stay on the paper, not all over your kitchen counter. You can roll out dough, prep a party spread, or cook alongside family. When you're done, cleanup is as simple as lifting the paper and revealing that clean counter underneath. Effortless. You can use it for cooking and baking, prep and even crafting, especially when you need extra working space. Because when the mess is already handled, you can focus on what matters. The food, the people, and the moment. It may look effortless, but now you know. It's Reynolds Kitchens countertop prep paper. Take a tip from me. Wet it, set it, prep it. Done. Make it easy. Make it with Reynolds Kitchens countertop prep paper. Available now in the Reynolds wrap aisle in Walmart, Target, Amazon, and Costco.

[Announcer]

M&M's Popped Caramel do sound different.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no.

[Unk]

People are gonna be obsessed. What do you mean? People hate the sound of chewing. Maybe they won't like the crunch. Maybe we're saved.

[Announcer]

Wait a minute.

[Unk]

Yellow.

[Martha Stewart]

Have you been eating them this whole time?

[Joe Johnson]

Mmm.

[Unk]

So tasty.

[Announcer]

Hands off us.

[Unk]

M&Ms. Popped caramel. It's more fun together.