Nightcap Hour 3: Mom vs GF HEATED Debate, Hunting and surviving the Wilderness

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 3: Time For Q & Ayyyy!

Date: May 5, 2026

Host: Shannon Sharpe
Co-Hosts: Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, Joe "ISO Joe" Johnson
Special Guest: Antoine Walker

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay is an extended “Nightcap” Q&A hour, packed with playful banter and honest stories. NFL legend Shannon Sharpe leads a candid, high-energy session with co-hosts Chad Ochocinco and ISO Joe, fielding audience questions and voicemails about sports heartbreaks, NBA playoff insights, wilderness survival, relationship vulnerability, and classic culture nostalgia. Special guest Antoine Walker joins in, making for a lively and laughter-filled ride.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Celebrating the Graphic Design Team (03:04 – 06:14)

• The hosts kick things off with genuine praise for the show’s graphics, laughing about their 90s-themed episode artwork.
  • Shannon Sharpe: “As A, R and B got, graphic team showed they ass today.” (03:09)
  • Ochocinco: “The graphic team has had so many tens…there’s no way I can say this is better because there’s been too many.” (03:46)
• Nostalgia for 90s fashion, big jeans, and Timbs is a running theme.
  • Ochocinco: “I had Tim from the butters to black to green to red. I had every color, and had the…Sean John overalls to match too.” (07:10)

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NBA Playoffs & Q&A Voicemails

Joel Embiid and the Knicks vs. Sixers (12:23 – 14:44)

• Listeners blame Shannon for “waking up” Embiid after his remarks on the big man’s availability.
  • Fan: “You the one woke Embiid up.” (13:01)
  • Shannon: “He wake his ass up again.” (13:05)
• Playoff predictions:
  • Joe rolls with Detroit and the Knicks, hoping for them in the Conference Finals.
  • Ochocinco is all-in on New York: “Not only are the Knicks gonna go to the finals, right? The goddamn Statue of Liberty…she finna walk out that water, too.” (14:18)

Top 3 Route Runners & Isolation (“Bag Work”) in All-Time Sports (15:32 – 17:34)

• Football Route Runners (Ocho’s picks):
  1. Marvin Harrison (“stayed on one side…got it off the muscle” – 16:12)
  2. Jerry Rice (“elite route running” – 16:35)
  3. Davante Adams
  • Mention of Isaac Bruce and Antonio Brown as honorable mentions.
• Basketball Isolation/Bag Work (Joe’s picks):
  1. Kobe Bryant
  2. Kyrie Irving (“Kyrie got a mean bag” – 17:46)
  3. James Harden in Houston (“his bag work was impeccable” – 17:54)
  • Jamal Crawford also lauded for his handle and creativity.

Watching Tape – NBA vs. NFL (19:20 – 21:09)

• On tape study in pro sports:
  • ISO Joe (NBA): “You have to understand tendencies, defensive assignments, the guy you’re guarding, the dos and don’ts.”
  • Shannon (NFL): “You want to know the plays they’re gonna run for the guy you’re guarding. You want to know them better than, hell, he know ‘em.”
  • Both highlight relentless preparation—no one wants to play “blind.” (20:43)

Relationship Vulnerability—Love vs. Respect (22:34 – 27:13)

• Thoughtful discussion on whether it’s better for a partner to let you be weak or always demand strength.
  • Ocho: “A woman that respect me so much that she won’t let me [be weak]...those moments—they use against you when they angry.” (22:54)
  • ISO Joe: “I want somebody that loves me enough to let me be weak in the moment...when I’m not weak, I’mma need you to be strong.” (23:23)
  • Shannon (on being strong): “Everybody going—everybody…you entering the storm, you in the storm, or you sittin’ the storm, you leavin’.” (26:47)
  • Intimate, real talk about needing a safe space to lean on someone.

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Wilderness Survivor Showdown (31:43 – 42:39)

• Who would win on Survivor at age 25? Hilarious, competitive debate:
  • Shannon: “Shannon mofo Sharpe now, I get you, boy.” (31:43)
  • Joe: “You realize I was just five years removed from no running water, no indoor plumbing, eating raccoon…” (32:03)
  • Ocho: “You not surviving like I did out there in the wilderness where you gotta fend for yourself, boy.” (32:29)
• Banter escalates into a detailed debate about hunting and cleaning animals—with Joe demonstrating knowledge of skinning fish and game, Ocho pledging “I did that in the city!” (38:15)
• Lighthearted accusations fly about who truly knows their way around firearms and wilderness survival:
  • “We gonna put some blanks in his gun, bro.” – Shannon (41:47)
  • Ocho on hunting: “Put me some cleese on and tell me what we goin’ to hunt.” (41:54)

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Basketball Trivia and Analysis

Quadruple-Double & NBA Legends (43:05 – 44:23)

• Listener asks if Victor Wembanyama (“Wimby”) could record an ultra-rare quadruple-double.
  • Shannon: “He can definitely get that quadruple double…he might get one this series.” (43:49)
  • Joe gives a mini-history lesson on the four players who’ve achieved the feat (Nate Thurmond, Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, Alvin Robertson).

Ranking NFL Tight Ends (45:04 – 46:11)

• Jason Witten’s legacy debated; solid, durable, but “not flashy”—he’s “like a pickup truck. Just got it done.” (45:29 – Shannon)

Musical Taste—Jay-Z or Nas? Mary J or Beyonce? (56:39 – 59:40)

• Jay-Z vs. Nas split the table, with Joe leaning Nas, Shannon backing Jay.
  • “I got, I got Jigger, bro.” – Shannon (57:05)
  • “I’m gonna go with Nas, boy.” – Ocho (57:09)
• For diva comparison, Mary J. and Beyonce are “two different people,” with lively debate about comparables and influence.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On playoff heartbreak:

  • “As a lifelong Falcon fan, the 28–3 loss [Super Bowl LI] was the worst loss I’ve ever witnessed. You couldn’t talk to me about nothing for at least a week.” – Listener (51:24)
  • Ocho: “I was so numb to losing. Boy, don’t nothing haunt me.” (51:49)

• On fast food essentials:

  • “You consider Waffle House fast? I’m at the Waffle House.” – Shannon (49:10)
  • Ocho’s “trinity”: McDonald's, Waffle House, and (possibly) Chick-Fil-A.

• On culture & fashion:

  • “The 90s was fire, bro. Y’all can’t say…” – Shannon (06:19)
  • “I had Tim from the butters to black to green to red. Had the overalls, the Sean John overalls to match.” – Ocho (07:10)

• On vulnerability in relationships:

  • “All I need to know if I fall, you gonna catch me.” – ISO Joe (24:38)
  • “When the problems arise, will you still feel the same way?” – Ocho (25:08)

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Key Timestamps & Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |-----------|-------| | 03:04–06:14 | Praise for graphics & 90s fashion nostalgia | | 12:23–14:44 | Playoff takes: Embiid, Knicks vs. Sixers, Detroit | | 15:32–17:34 | Top route runners & NBA bag work | | 19:20–21:09 | Tape-watching: NFL vs. NBA | | 22:34–27:13 | Deep talk on relationships and vulnerability | | 31:43–42:39 | Survivor showdown, wilderness skills, hunting tales | | 43:05–44:23 | Quadruple-doubles in NBA history, Wemby discussion | | 45:04–46:11 | Jason Witten vs. all-time great tight ends | | 56:39–59:40 | Jay-Z vs. Nas, Mary J. vs. Beyonce, music debates | | 51:24–52:38 | Sports heartbreaks, worst losses as fans/players |

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

• Playful and competitive, with extensive ribbing and inside jokes between Shannon, Ocho, and ISO Joe.
• Reflective and open, especially in relationship and vulnerability discussions.
• Rich with nostalgia, referencing classic music, fashion, and formative sports moments.
• Interactive, audience-driven episode, with lots of Q&A and fan engagement.

This episode is a vibrant, fun, and sometimes unexpectedly profound peek into the personalities and life philosophies of Shannon Sharpe and his co-hosts. Whether you’re a sports fan, culture nerd, or just love good conversation, you’ll find laughs and wisdom in every segment.

Transcript

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Ocho Joe. They're saying today's graphic was the best one yet. What you thinking?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, yeah. Hey, hey, hey. The graphic team, the best one. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. As. As A, R and B got, graphic team showed they ass today.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, what took the cake was when

[Shannon Sharpe]

I seen Twan ass back there in the back. Hey, Tuan fit right in, don't he? Hey, hey, boy, that's a hard picture. Hey, man, if you grew up in the 90s, you already know what, Jody. Come on, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Boy, look at. Boy, they got me skinny to the mug. I'm on that. I'm on that epic hard. Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It looked like I'm on a little bit too, though. But it's all good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, listen, the gra. Hey, the graphic team has had so many tens when it comes to some of the graphics that they've done.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Night by night. There's no way. Even as great as this is, there's no way I can say this is better because it's been too. It's been too many.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But like, the last. I mean, basically since. I mean, for like the last five, six months, they've been on the historic.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, They've been on a historical.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think if you're a real music head like myself, you. I mean, you enjoy all of them, but this one here, like, I. I've been keeping up. I've been keeping. I've been tallying up on all the. On all these. Yeah, yeah. All these graphics. And I'm gonna try to get them printed off and, you know, do my little one, two with them. So I appreciate y' all for this, man. It's hard. I ain't gonna lie this hard. When I seen this, I was driving, I was like, oh, I almost lost control.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, we gotta win something. We gotta win an image just for graphics, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got two.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We gotta win something just for Graphics alone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, this hard.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Even if you say, which we know we have great content, but even if you say, well, I don't like the content. You can't say. You can't find somebody that got better graphics.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, nah. Hey, look, even. Even how the nightcap sign is where it would be. Jodeci. Like how they made it look just like that. Like, bro, it's a little small things that I see. That's like, man, that's hard, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Featuring Ain't got nothing better to do with her time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hey, hey. Featuring Antoine Walker. That's hard, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's long. That's hard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's hard. That's hard.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, this. This is. Yeah, but they.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, what uncle you over there Coughing?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I heard that. No, no, I'm good. I'm good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, hold on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

How y' all gotta put a tattoo on me and everything? Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got you right, babe?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, they got a tattoo, right? Goddamn. Ocho look like he's standing back there like he guarding the sale.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, really on real talk, though. Ocho look like he really, really fitted.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You look normal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know what enough, you know, like, me and I got a little shot Ozempic, but it's all.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Look at my collarboy. They got me looking like Ocho. Look at my clavicle showing, man. Come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, needless to say, though, it's hard, bro. It's hard. Hey, this is one of my favorites. I ain't gonna lie to y'.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All. Dang.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all see. Hey, hey. Y' all see how them. Boy, see how we got them boots on? The boots with them, man, the 90s was fire, bro. Y' all can't say.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, it was. It was. I mean, for those that weren't able to experience that time, whether it was the music, some of the things we were able to. Joe. Just being outside.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, Just being outside. Everybody ain't had their phones out. You know, when you win places. Yeah. I mean, it. It. It was different. It was different. It would never, ever be like that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Tims hurt my knees. That's probably why my knees bad wear them. Damn. Tims matter.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, what's the boost we had back then?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Used to have Eastland boots. Used to have the.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, Eastland. And the ones that they wear in the army, too. We used to go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The military boots.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, the military.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep, yep.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I got. I don't know if I still got him. I had a Versace pair like that. Did you? Yep, yep. But, man, I had Tim, every color. I had Tim from the butters to black to green to red. I had every color and had the overall. They had the overalls, the Sean John overalls to match too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Joe, you might. Joe, you might not be young enough. Joe, did you. Hey, you had some MC Hammer?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I did the one that sang in the crotch area.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You did, you had some. Hey, I think, I think the company, I think it was called Z. Z Cavarici. I can't remember the Z. It was these something, man. And they, they had the same, the same, you know, the same silhouette and how they were made. But I had a few of them things.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, well, I should type right on through that joint.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I know, I know. Y' all had them on. What you call them? What they call the parachute pants? Yeah, I had the parachute.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, boy, it was some days, but. Hey, you. Hey, you. Hey, Joe, you remember Lottos? What about Etonics? Remember Etonics?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The black joints?

[Chad Ochocinco]

What about LA Gear?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. What about Elise? Joe, you asked.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, them some good days, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I had.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I had. Waist was 30, waist was 34. Had some 42 jeans.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, we all wearing the big ass

[ISO Joe Johnson]

pants, 5x5x jackets, Man. It was the tie. It was the tires back there, man. All right, it's time for our final save of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I remember them things work.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Before we get to the super chat, we got four video voicemails from our discord. Let's take a listen.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm a big fan of Nightcap. As you can see, I'm a Laker fan now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm no longer this.

[LeBron James Fan (possibly Shannon Sharpe or another guest)]

I'm a Laker fan now. Shannon Shaw if you wouldn't have said what you said about Joel embiId. We was up 3 1. You talk shit about Joel Embiid. Ocho and Joe said the man could do what he do? The nigga went ham every game since then. After you said what you said. After you said what you said, Shannon Sharp, that nigga went ham. So because of you, I gotta put this down and I gotta pick this up, baby. King James, we already know who the goat is. You know what it is, huh? But Shannon Shaw, you gotta.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on, bro.

[LeBron James Fan (possibly Shannon Sharpe or another guest)]

You the one woke and beat up,

[Shannon Sharpe]

and he wake his ass up again.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He took. He took a nap tonight. Look, the thing was, I didn't say Embi couldn't play. I said his. My problem with him is availability is playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

When he play, he hell, but we gonna see. He gonna definitely need to be game six and what? Six and seven. Joel Embiid to beat the Knicks in this series.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he got.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All right, let's take a listen to the next one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What's good? What's good? Oh, what's good, ISO? Hey, I just wanted to ask you guys, since. Since Boston's out, who you think's gonna come out the east now? You know, but you already know. We got that Celtics fact going on right now, man. Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Who you got, Joe? Who you got coming out the East? Oh, you got Detroit and the Cavs. You got the Knicks and the Sixers,

[Shannon Sharpe]

man, I'm gonna roll with Detroit, bro. I'm a roll with Detroit.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, so you got the Knicks?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I got the Knicks. I like Embiid. I like him. Beat. And obviously, the conversation about last series really had nothing to do with them collectively. I mean, as. As a group, but as. As for the team to come out these. I got the Knicks. Matter of fact, not only are the Nick gonna go to the finals, right? The goddamn Statue of Liberty. She finna walk out that water, too.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

She finna leave the Island.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Lead the island, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who you got?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I like. I like Detroit, but I don't know if they can beat the Knicks. I don't know if they can beat the Knicks, but flip a coin. I ain't got no coin, but I think. You know what, I rock with Bronson, okay?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, now you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, he a prisoner of the moment, though. He ain't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He got no choice. I can either take Detroit. I'm hoping Detroit and the Knicks meet in the conference finals. That's what I'm hoping.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

take a listen to the third one. Yo, what up, Big Three? My fault. I'm on this in a bonnet. Y' all got enough hair for that, so y' all need to worry about it. Anyway, let me get your top three

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route runners on Kenocho, straight route, running the ISO.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Let me get your top three isolation.

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Just bag work players all time.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All the time. See y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What you got, Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, when he say rock run, he talk about all. He's one all time, all the time right now. Oh, shoot,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

that's tough.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That. That's real tough, boy. I'm talking about route running. Like, I don't need no help. Like, I don't need my officer coordinators help at all. Just line me up. I could just go, I'm going Marvin Harrison one. I'm going Marvin Harrison one. Simply for the fact, Unc, he stayed on one side.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He did. He lined up on the right side

[Chad Ochocinco]

and he never moved. And he got it off the muscle. My number two. I'm gonna go with Jerry. I'm gonna go with Jerry because obviously he's an elite. Elite route running.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I don't think he gets enough credit either, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, and my third would have to be. There's so many other. There's so many other options, so many other players. I can go with Isaac Bruce, Tori Devonte, but I'm going devonte third. I'm not even putting me in that. I'm not even putting me in that group. I'm going devonte third. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All right, man. I'm surprised you ain't put a B in there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ah, that's why I say there's so

[ISO Joe Johnson]

many other options you talk about all time. It's a really good route runner.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Really, really good. Hey, hell, Julio, even at his size, being able to. Being able to. To sit down the way he does and get out and get. Oh, man, it's so many. But those three, that's my top three.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Joe, you bad guys, as far as

[Shannon Sharpe]

bag, where I'm talking about straight, like, haha. I'm talking about that. That bag. I'mma go cold. I'mma go Kyrie. Kyrie got a mean bag.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, Kyrie ever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And. And I'm gonna go jh, bro. James Harden. James Harden in Houston. When he first got to Houston, his bag work was impeccable.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, he went dummy dummy with it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hard was. Hard was on some dookie with that stuff.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, matter of fact, I'm glad you said that. Joe. Will you. Will you put Jamal Crawford when it come to bag work?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'll put Jamal up there, bro. Jamal got a nice bag. Six. Six.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Long. Got a nice left to right crossover. Jamal got it, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He right up there with them boys for sure.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And the final one, let's take A listen, you all right, Joe?

[Discord Caller]

Damn, boy. Hey, Joe, I ain't gonna lie to you. That game the other night, that was worse than belt to ass. The Knicks told y' all to go outside and pick out a switch. That's how bad that was, Joe. But hey, you said you got the Thunder coming out the west now the spurs are playing the Wolves with no ant, man, and they probably gonna have to play OKC without Jalen Williams. So. Joe, it's never too late to come to the dark side, boy. Never too late to change your pick. Hey, and send that bread you owe Ocho. Send that to Unk.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I know he pissed off with that spurs hat on. I know he pissed off tonight. He can talk all this he want to, but I know he pissed off with that spurs head on tonight.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Filthy McNasty, Cambodia. Hell, somebody got to verify Ocho Frico stories. Question for ISO and Tone. Did you watch much tape in the NBA as NFL players did? Thanks. Much love and still. Yeah, how much tape did you watch, Joe?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I watched a lot of tape. I mean, hell, before, because not only am I watching the tape on the guys that I'm gonna be guarding, but I'm watching tape Uncle Ocho, and see how they guard guys who score the ball. How they gonna guard me, you know, do they double or do they.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Do they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do they send you baseline on defense? It's all a little small. My new things that you really have to lock into, especially when you're the guy, because you have to understand tendencies, you have to understand defensive assignments and you have to understand the guy who you guarding the dos and don'ts, you know, don't give him no, don't give him no dead threes. Don't give him no. No spot up shots, you know, make everything tough. So, hell, you got to watch film because what you want to do, you want to know the plays they going to run for the guy who you guard. And you want to know them to the te. You want to know them better than hell, he know them.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You absolutely right. You got to because you want to know what they want to. I mean, obviously there is no perfect play. All you basing it on is, is, is. Is. Is a percentage. This is what they do in this down in distance. This is what they do in this area of the field. This is what they. This is the coverage that they run in this formation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So you're like, okay, if they run this, this is what works against that. If they run that, this is what works against this. So it's A prop. But you need to know. Yeah, nothing worse than that going out there. Blinding. Sometimes they're going to get you. They get the practice, and they're going to throw a couple of coverages in that you didn't get to go over in that formation and that down in distance in that area of the field. And that's okay. Just don't turn the ball over. Just don't do something dumb.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Brandon Martinez. Will Luca be back to support the Lakers tomorrow like Ant did today? No. What do you mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you saying play?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He talking about. He talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think they were talking about just being on over there clapping or you know it now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He said like Ant did today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, he ain't gonna play. Hell, no, he ain't gonna play.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Elaine. Ray. What's up, Laney? What's up, guys? Haters gonna say it's fake, but the Wolves had the spurs number tonight. Unlimited minutes for Ant. Plus no AO. Wolves are back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They did. They look good, man. They look good. I. I like, you know, all those guys accepting the challenge, obviously, you know, they hear the stuff that's being said, you know, about the Spurs. Supposed to be great. They. They could potentially win a title, man, them dudes ain't gonna lay down for them, man. They came in there through the whole kitchen singing them boy

[ISO Joe Johnson]

youth. Peoria says Ocho tried to tell y' all Wimby soft like butter. Wolves and five.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know if I'm gonna go that far.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I wouldn't call him soft, but they.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They, they.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They did have. They did have him out of rhythm tonight. You know, being physical, being aggressive, challenging me as much as they could, making everything difficult.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Sexy. Ed boy, is a great question, guys. Would you rather have a woman who loves you enough to let you be weak in a moment or. Or a woman who respects you so much she won't let you? Ocho, you want. You want your woman to love you enough to let you be weak in a moment or a woman that respects you so much she won't let you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

A woman that respect me so much that she won't let me. Because most of the time, those moments of weakness they use against you when they angry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, it depends. It depends on what. What the. What the weak moment is.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't. I can't say that. I ain't gonna. I. I ain't vouching. Yeah. I'm saying, like, if. If you have a death in your family, hell, you. You know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, that's. That's That's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I'm just saying. I'm saying it's. It comes in many different forms and facets, Ocho. That's all I'm saying.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I got you. I got you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah, I want somebody. I want somebody that loves me enough to let me be weak in the moment.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because when I'm not weak, I'm gonna need you to be strong. Because you say you my backbone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Backbones holds us up. So I don't want you to tell me something that you're not capable of being.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hello.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because I'm. I'm gonna do my absolute best to be strong. That's the way I was raised. Barn and Mary raised me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But they're gonna be times that I'm not going to be able to. I'm not going to be able to stop. Hey. But I'm gonna need you to pick my chin up. I'm gonna need you to tell me, Shannon, it's gonna be okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Sometimes. And. And you know, everybody say they can be strong until it comes to time where you have to be strong.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do you hear me, man? Boy. Whoo.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And you don't know what it's like to be weak until you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Until you have to have somebody help you, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my God.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So for me. And I don't let. I don't let my guard down often to see. Let people see that side of me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But if I. If I. If you're in my space and I let myself down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All I need to know if I fall, you gonna catch me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Sometimes I already know how it is. Every. Everybody. Everybody said they gonna. You know, they gonna catch you when you're falling. Because goddamn. Normally. Normally, hey, that's performative. Because that's when everything is happy. Especially the honeymoon. You know, the honeymoon phase. You know, the dopamine ain't wore off yet. You know, everything is smiles and happy. When there's no obstacles.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Even to no problems.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No trials, no tribulations. Well, yeah, it's easy to say what I would do, but when the problems arise, will you still feel the same way?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that. That's the thing, man. Everybody says. And see, that's the thing. Or your people say, oh, I just. What I would have done this. Until you face with a situation, you have no earthly idea what you would or wouldn't do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely. Right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I want someone that. That loves me so much. She said, come cry on my shoulder. I had someone tell me she said, shannon, you've been strong for everybody in your life. Who's been strong for you when you hurt, when you bit. Because you're never going to be broken.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Who can you go to?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I understand that I have to be strong. I have to be strong for a lot of different reasons, physically, mentally, emotionally, psychologically. I have to be strong for a lot of reasons. But there have been times you don't know how, you don't know when, you don't know where because, you know, granny used to always say all the time say, boy, everybody going, everybody, everybody. You either entering the storm, you're in the storm or you're sitting the storm, you leave it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So yeah, look, I, I've been strong and. But you know, it ain't nothing like having that, having that. Somebody just, hey, it's okay. Yeah, it's okay. You down today and that's why I'm here. But you're gonna be up tomorrow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because I'm not gonna let you stay down long enough to feel sorry for yourself. But it's okay, man. Good question.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Exit Boy Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy Doc, how you been? Hey fam, what do you call a pig that knows karate?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Pork chop.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Pork chops. Big Mike. 1 Nixon 6 Nixon 6 Mr. Trying to figure it All Out. Spider Man, Batman, Candyman, Ant Man, Wolves and Silver Farmer Boy Ocho ISO Question if you three competed against each other on Survivor, who would win? So you're all in tip top shape. 25 years old. Much love from the Bay? Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shannon Mofo Sharp Now, I get you, boy. I get you, boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Joe? Hello, Joe. Did you hear what he said? Yeah, he said. He said, at 25. Yeah, you cut up like some onion.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, that cutting the best like some onions. Ain't got nothing to do with surviving.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

First of all, Ocho, you do realize I was just five years away from surviving. I was just five years removed from no warning water, no indoor plumbing, eating raccoon. So I don't know what you're talking about. I was just five. I was just five years removed from

[Chad Ochocinco]

that, Ocho, and we still talk about survivor.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Survivor.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I understand. I understand the conditions you come from. I understand the conditions and what you had to deal with growing up. But young brother, you not surviving like I did out there in the wilderness where you got to fend for yourself, boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You drew in the picture heating the cooling you, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I had an 8. I had a goddamn ceiling fan in my wall. What you talking about?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We ain't have no ceiling fan.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, no, not ceiling fan. What you call the fan, Joe? In. In the wall from outside, the little AC unit joint.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, you had. Oh, you had a window ac.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What you talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It used to drip.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, how you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We had one, actually. Had.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I had a little bucket right there.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We didn't have. We had them fans. We had them isolated. I still. Hey, that box for you, we call them. They call the box fan. You had the big square ones, and then you had the one that rotate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I still got. I got about five of them in my house. I ain't gonna be without one. I go to the hotel. Every hotel I go to, they got one. That's another thing Shelly already done call. Hey, he needs a humidity. He needs a fans. I don't need. I need it for the noise. I need noise. I gotta have noise. I can't. I can't have it quiet. I need to have no damn dog

[Shannon Sharpe]

going crazy out here.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, what's.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Somebody on our property, Joe? Hey, get that pistol out. What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, first of all, Oo, you don't know how to skin no animal to eat it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What? Hey, I know how to scale. I know how to skin.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

How you skin squirrel.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know how to screw squirrel. I know how to skin fish.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You scale fish.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got to remember now. You got to remember. I used to. I used to hunt down here in Miami. Now I know I'm in. I know I'm in the inner city, but as a kid, I used to explore. You hear me and my grandma, you always say, baby, if you can get the McGuanas now, if you can get any one, you could get them. Squirrel. Keep them off my goddamn mangoes. I used to keep them boys out. My grandma mangoes. I have my slingshot sometimes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

you know, hey, you know how to dress an animal? So if we were. If we were to kill a squirrel, we were to kill a raccoon or deer or something. Do you know how to dress it? You know how to kill.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, no. I ain't gonna say a lot of y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, I know he don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, Joe. Yeah, I do. It's on YouTube. It.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Show me how to do it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I ain't got to go to YouTube.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You saying you can skin an animal up?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I do. I can.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I, I. Hey, hey, hey, Joe. I don't believe it. See, first of all, you got to show me.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

If we're in the wilderness, we're not worried about trying to preserve the hide special of a raccoon. So we just go, hey, we just. Hey, we just split his back. You pull one side, I pull the other. Pull his ass out. We cut the legs, I bust him down the middle, take the guts out. We're gonna take him to the water. We're gonna clean them all up. Hopefully we got some pans out there, or we just gotta stick a few. Put a stick. Run a stick through it and put it across and put it across the open fire. If it's a deer, we're gonna hang him upside down. We're gonna cut him through the inside.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on. Hey, I'd like to see you do this.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Hey, listen, he explained it like they explained it on YouTube, man. I ain't buying how you think. That's the same way they explain it to you on YouTube. I need to see video footage.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We need to go hunt, clean the squirrels. How you think we clean the raccoons until my brother? Now, my brother can case her. He could case a raccoon out. I don't know if he could still do it. That was 40 plus years ago, but, yo, yeah, for sure.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How about we go in the hot

[ISO Joe Johnson]

skull and water, Joe?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Turn him down. I'm talking about scalding. Scalding water so the hair come off real cool. And then we're gonna take that raving and make sure we got it all off it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Then we bust him down. We're gonna keep the heart. We'll keep the inside. You gonna get some chitlin. Cause you know, everything you eat, everything on the pig, you don't throw nothing away. You don't throw a damn thing away. You got tomorrow. You got all that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, eating everything. Well, who you tell damn

[ISO Joe Johnson]

boys to love? Hey, when my mama would come down for, like, come down for special occasions. Would come down for Christmas, man, my grandfather gonna kill them. How have my uncle come to kill them hogs?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, good.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Be good. Or nobody would come back. Oh, Mary, you wanna. You want a raccoon? You want to. Yeah, boy. Boys go out there and get them and. Because, see, the thing is, they'd be already undressed because all they wanted was to hide.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So they back now they sell them. Now, I think they probably charge 20, 25, I don't know, 15, 20, say. But back then they would just give you away. Yeah, but you know what? They had to leave. They had to leave at least two feet on. Because people puppies and all kind of stuff. But we don't have to get through that. But yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Joe, back in the day, Barney married you. Oh, you had to do all. Learn how to do all that clean fish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's why I hated. Boy, my grandma gave me a be. And my brother told me she gonna beat out. Cause we catching the fish and throwing them back. Cause we didn't want to clean them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

boy, Granny. Boy, Granny gritting them teeth. I'm gonna click all of you. Cause I didn't want to clean. Man, catch all them fish. You gotta clean them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I already know. I've seen. I haven't been there.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I, I, I. We probably still got that fish, Scala. Because, you know, you got. You can do it with a knife. We used to do it with a knife. You got the fish scaler. And then, you know, you got the catfish, you got this. You got the skinners. See, Ocho don't know about that, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know you don't. He's just talking.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I told you everything you could do, I could do. I did that in the city, I'm telling you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But we going fishing, we gonna see everybody. Because everybody doing a lot of talking. Everybody talking about they can do this.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, scaling the fish is easy. Let's get out there in them woods, man. Let's hunt some deer. Hey, let's. Let's hunt some water buffalo.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You don't know how to handle a gun.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who don't? Ocho, why bring that thing from the hip, boy? Stop playing me.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Why are you taking a handgun in the woods with the switch?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you use?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What are we hunting? And I tell you what, we use it you hunting quail? You use a 12 gauge. You need bird shots. What else you hunt? You use a 30, 36. You can use a 12 game. You hunt, dear. I mean, it all depends on what season it is. Sometimes you have to use a boat, but I don't. I ain't never shot a boat, but I shot a 12 gauge. I shot a 30. 30. 30. 06. Well, you need a. 308, 243. What you do?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I can do my damage with a bow. You give me a bow. I. I can. I can do my damage with that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You ever shot a bow?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you. Are you with a Cub Scout, too? You know, we had to take both lessons. What cup? Hey, scouts on a boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I love to say I'm gonna go fishing with Ocho, but anything with no firearm, he not gonna shoot me in the ass like Dick Cheney did.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I ain't gonna shoot you because you

[ISO Joe Johnson]

don't know how to. Ocho Joe, he don't know how to carry a gun. He talking about he got the gun like he in the military, all up on his shoulder. He don't know if he got. If. If he in the front. He got it down to the ground. He got it on the side.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I always. I always got my gun at. At six o', clock, baby. You ain't got to worry about nothing. I always got that boy at six o'.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Clock, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You good? Hey, I got you hear me? Hey, let me tell you something. Hey, I ain't saying I'm Private Ryan, what you saying?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But you know, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

If you're in the front, you like this.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Or you could have. You could carry it like this.

[Chad Ochocinco]

This. No, no, no, no. Put that thing down.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You can't carry this in for you in the back. That's why I'm not messing with you, because you gonna carry yours, and you gonna be in the back and shoot somebody in the ass.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You didn't hear me, did you? I say, cat, point that thing down at 6 or 7 o'. Clock. Now you. You carrying it wrong. Now, let me teach you something.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The front per. Let me ask you a question. How you gonna shoot something? You come up on a quail and you got. And you got it down here, you got to have it. Damn. They're ready to shoot.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, you don't. Well, you don't know how to hunt. What kind of hunter are you?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I just say we hunt.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You hunt? Hey, hey, You. You. You hunt like Elmer Fud, huh? That ain't the way I hunt.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

How you hunt?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got. You got your gun. You got your gun.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You hunt. Two legged hunt. You two legged. Yeah, you driving a vehicle, so. Yeah, that's bad.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Here, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'll let you go, Joe. Y', all. You. You go. You and Joe go. Go out there hunt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ah, no, no, no. We all got to be together. This.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, no. Yeah. That man ain't never had a shotgun. He ain't never carried a shotgun. He ain't never shot a shotgun. He ain't never shot a high powered rifle.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you see you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm glad you viewed me like that. And I'm glad you view me in that light. You hear me? I'm. I'm glad. I'm glad. But that's. That's not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're gonna put some blanks in his gun, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Give him some blank. Just see how he do on his first couple shots. Just see how he do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, y' all talk. Y' all talk about guns. I don't even need nothing. I just put me out there. Put me some. Put me some cleese on and tell me what we going to hunt.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, I do this. I do the joke. Keep coming out there with cologne he got on. Red animals smelling him. They see him. He don't stay down with it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, I don't need to be down. I'm be upwind. Just douse me with some of that. Some of that. That urine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put. Put that thing on me. What? I'm having a fatigue.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We give him a BB gun. Joe. Let me shoot some Robins or some. Some Blue Jays or something.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm ready, boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We. We can't get. We can't give up where he can hurt himself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right, Brother Franklin. What's up? O Show for the dunk ISO Going to see in slow motion. And the saxophone from the Boys in the Hood gonna be playing when he gets that knee to the face.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, boy, you right about that, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Please.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You right about that, boy. Yeah, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Boo. And capitalize. Say, what's up, y'?

[LeBron James Fan (possibly Shannon Sharpe or another guest)]

All?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Philly losing by almost 40 is crazy. Do y' all also believe Wimby will be the fifth player to ever have a quadruple double?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think he. I think he can definitely get that quadruple double. I mean. Cause the way he blocks shots that. It's so easy, man. I'm like, I know he didn't get the triple double, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm trying to think. Nate Thurman, Akeem Elijah 1, David Robinson and Alvin Robinson. I think those are only. They're the only four off the top of my head that I can remember. Nate Thurman was the first. Elijah one got it and they took one. They took. I think it took a rebound or a block away from him. And he came back two games later and got it again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. Yeah. Hey, you know what? Cause he passed Wimby passes well enough to get 10 assists.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And obviously he can score a rebound. And then, hell, the way he blocks shots. Yeah, yeah, he gonna be in there. He gonna get one. He might get one this series.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He might. You know, Tim Duncan, like, they got one against, what you call him against the Nets, he had a 20, 218 game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, really?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Against the Nets. 20 points, 10 rebounds. I think he had either 10 assists or 10 blocks and eight something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He had 21, 20, 10 and 8. But look at, look up the. The quadruple doubles. I think it was. I think Nate Thurman was the first one to do it. And then Alvin Robertson did it. Albert Robertson did it with steals, obviously. Elijah Juan and, and. And David Robinson did it with blocks and assists. Oh, but you know what, Joe? You know what people gonna say? What, you googled it? How am I gonna google? I don't know what people gonna ask me. 2 San Antonio spurs did it. Alan Robinson was a damn good defender.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was. He was hell of one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He's damn good. What do y' all think? What do you rank Jason Whitten all time for tight ends? As a Cowboy fan, I wouldn't take him over Gonzo, Grant Gates, Kelsey to name a few. He was damn good a little number of years. He was very, very durable. Not. Not flashy. Nope. He was like a. He'll pick up Truck.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just got it done.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Just got it done.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He pick up Truck.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, his style of play wasn't aesthetically pleasing, which is why he doesn't you name think all the people he just. He put in front of him, all of their game style was. It was. It was. It was good to look at. It's awesome to look at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Is he up for the hall of Fame this year? No, he did. Oh, is he next year? Whitting. When is he up for the hall of Fame? I mean, him and Hell Hillman. Gonzo. Hell. God. I think they missed. I think Gonzo missed one game, but Kelsey hadn't missed a whole lot of games. He was eligible this year. He did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He didn't make it. Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oo. I'm sorry. You usually Say some BS when you're talking about basketball even stressing un out, but you've been spitting facts lately. Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, he getting better.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, I'm. I'm telling you, man. Give me, give me, give me. Hey, hey, I'm gonna take me a crash course, right? And when I come back next year and it's time for basketball season and I'm on here sounding like goddamn 10 legley goddamn doors working George Adano and Stephen a.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And some of them boys, I. Y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, listen, I'm telling you, I'm gonna start taking over basketball segments. I'm get there now. Especially. Especially. Hey, Joe, this is why I'm gonna kill him. So when I start learning. Learning the terminology.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, you know, I started talking about the terminology. Hey, yeah, hey, when I started talking like that, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They put it, you know, I've arrived. Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you know, I've arrived.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, he showed, he lagged, he hedged.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, why get. Hey, I get to that point, Joe, like, I could talk soccer. Hey, hey, what's the right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, they ain't gonna be able to keep you off tv.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, well, who you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Who you telling, man? Go Birds. How in the hell is this just one game? And they beat the. They beat Atlanta by 50, beat the sixes by 30. Plus. It ain't our fault they went seven games. Preach. Ocho, clearly he's a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay Knicks fan, right? Right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, I'm a Heat fan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he talking about the right now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Pappy Ray, your hip gonna give out in that batting cage if you guys. No way you can hit better percentage the Ocho. I'll bet anything on that. I help. Good. Is the knee.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, the fact that. Hey. The fact that y' all think y' all could. The fact that y' all can Think y' all can outdo a five tool in high school. That. Hey, that. That. That's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, well, I know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I got you a shovel, a rake, a lawnmower, weeder. Those are the tools he talk about, Joe. I know. Power Steeler, base field.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you pick. You pick that front leg up when you get ready to swing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Joe, I'm. I'm. I ain't gonna bring it up too high. Just. Just a little bit to give me

[Shannon Sharpe]

a little leverage, you know, when I'm

[Chad Ochocinco]

falling, when I'm coming forward with it. That's. Yeah. Hey, hey, Joe, I'm gonna come to balance with that thing and let go now, okay? It's all in the hips.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I saw. He says I. So that Game 6 was worth BTA. The Knicks hold, The Hawks told the Horse to go outside and pick a switch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was. It was bad, man. Hey, look, I ain't no grape of grown. I'm still pissed off behind that. Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Mashburg said you could only eat three fast food restaurants forever. What y' all picking?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Give me a.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And y' all already know the answer to that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You consider Waffle House fast?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I'm at the Waffle House.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Where you think I'm going when we finish the night?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You going Waffle House, man? Boy, I'm going Waffle House.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't eat fast food like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm going, hey, McDonald's waffles and.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay, yeah, okay. See, give me IHOP. I'll take

[Chad Ochocinco]

IHOP. That's my. That's my morning.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'll take IHOP. Raising canes. Oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You said chick fil A. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, see, I'm going. I'm going Waffle House because I. I got to get that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That pecan waffle, baby. That pecan waffle with them six eggs. Sc.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn. Six.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I need that protein, huh? I need that protein, baby.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I get six eggs. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah, bro, I can do about two, three. Any more than that, it ain't gonna be fun. Ain't gonna be fun in the room. That's too much sulfur for me, man. Hey, hey. They say, hey, Mr. Sharp, we brought you a couple extra eggs. I don't know what. They gonna be right there on that plate when you come pick up this plate at this room.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Outside the door.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey. And give me. And give me a few. Give me a few slices of that crispy swine, that bacon. I want mine.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Hey, I like that crispy swine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? But when we go on that little. We go on our little excursion, you know, we gonna be, you know, hit the. You know, hit a couple of places, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, let me know. I'm ready.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

There you go. You always ready to do something.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, listen, I'm ready. Hey, a time will be had.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And no cell phone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, Bet.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, I don't need. I don't need that. Hey, where we going? I don't need.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, I know you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, we out here in the Caribbean. You know what I'm saying? Give it up. Our little goat location.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, don't nobody need to know yeah, right. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Jeremy Scott. As a lifelong Falcon fan, the 28. 3 loss was the worst loss I've ever witnessed. You couldn't talk to me about nothing for at least a week. Is there a loss either as a fan or as a player that haunts y' all still?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't. I. I ain't got one that stands out like that. Like that loss the other day?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No. Hell, no, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I was so numb to losing. Boy, don't nothing haunt me. I mean, no, I mean, I'm just.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Man, for me. Jacksonville lost 96, losing the division round of the playoff. That one. As a fan.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Two. When old boy from Villanova hit that shot against North Carolina. Yeah, that one.

[Discord Caller]

And

[Shannon Sharpe]

probably.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Game three when Katie hit that three in Cleveland.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Cause they had. They had. They had led the whole game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They did, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Miss Lake show. What it do. Nightcap. Love your chemistry. Please wish my friend Wiz PAM A happy 20th anniversary. Nightcap always in the mix. Lakers in six wins. Pam, happy 20th anniversary. Boy. 20 years to know someone, relearn somebody to fall in love with somebody to do that for 20 years. Congratulations. And to 20 more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, sir, LeBron James.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm trying to figure out how people can call women the greatest defensive player performance ever in a playoff with Russell. Average 16, 24, 6 and 6 and 13 games in games five through seven in the 68 finals. Wow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, what they said Will had a. What was that? He had 30 something, 30 something points, 20 rebounds, 24 blocks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Tend to see us. But you know, they didn't. I mean, think about it. They didn't keep. They didn't keep stats, they didn't keep block shots. Block shots didn't become official stat to like 73, 74. So up until then, they ain't call it. Brandon Crow. KD is ringless without Curry. For a great player.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And as he is, he jumps ships too much. If he stays with OKC in 17, they get over the hump. He can't be the number one if

[Shannon Sharpe]

he stay with okc.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I think.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think they definitely win a chip, but I mean, they always gonna hold that over his head, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

For sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, he only won when he played with Golden State and he hasn't won, you know, since he left. Yeah, and they won one when he left.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes, Fellas, I hope all is well. My question is for King ISO J. Crawford. Jay crossover is my second favorite player in NBA history. With that being said, what was it like watching this bag and worth the work ethic up close. Love the show, fellas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thanks, man. Jamal, you know, he played here in Atlanta with me for two years, and he was just a natural. Hooper, bro, I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you. Like, I, I, I seen Jamal work. I mean, he came to practice every day, put in the work, but he, he. All the shots and crazy shots that y' all see him shooting. Like, bro, he work on that stuff. And in practice, he was the same way. Like, he, he was a workaholic. He loved working on his game. Hell of a player. Yeah, I saw him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I think I saw him at that, at that Ritz cart right there on the corner of Peachtree Done with it and Peachtree Road. He had a red. He had a red Rolls Royce.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I started, I started to pull up on the get up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you know what my favorite move is from, From Jamal. You know how and when people do crossovers on. You know how they do it from the front right to left or left to right? When he used to do from the back, though, any come back with it, I'm like, man, that. Well, that, that, man, that, that's so. That's so.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And if you hopping with it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And he hopped with it. Yeah, he hopped with it. Man, that, that dope is.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Mike. Mike. What up, Big three? Since y' all discussed teams having to make tough money decision after winning, would you want to want the NBA or the NFL to ever take away the salary cap like baseball? I sure as hell would. Hell yeah. NFL.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The NBA used to. Didn't have no salary cap.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They did not used to come in

[Shannon Sharpe]

with a bag getting 60, 70 million.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Big dog. I think big dog. Glenn Robinson was the last one that got that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Slim. I need y' all opinion. Jay Z or Nas? Mary J or Beyonce?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Here you go.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Mary J and Beyonce are like two. They like totally told two different people. least Jay Z and Nas, okay, you got rap, but Beyonce and beyond and Mary J ain't even. That's not even comparable comparison.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No. Who you got, Jay Z?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got, I got Jigger, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Who you got? Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn. I'm. I'm gonna go with Nas, boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to go with.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I like, I like both. I like both, but I'm gonna just go with Nas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This cutting up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who that?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, you going to the concert? You going to see HOV at. What is it, Yankee Stadium?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's in July. You going?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, I ain't going to that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hell no,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Man. Beyonce. You got to give Me somebody that's comparable to Mary J. Or give me somebody comparable to Beyonce.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, who the hell is comparable to Beyonce?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But I'm just saying. Okay, let's just say, okay, if you say ain't nobody. I'm trying, I'm trying to think in today's time. I mean, but ain't nobody. Well, hell, I mean, if you say Mary J. Mary J. Is more comparable to a Fantasia or to a Jennifer Hudson or something like that to say Jasmine Sullivan, they can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She could go, boy, who that?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Mary J. Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, she out here.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

She got a residency out here. Does she?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, she performing.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had to come check Mary out now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, they need to have some old school bad. They need to have like Earth, Wind and Fire, Ohio play or stuff like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, now, now we, now, now we talk.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Gay Atlantic star, something like that. Stylistics.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I'd be there. I'd be the first one in line.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Would you say like Janet Jackson and Beyonce is comparable or Rihanna and Beyonce? Yeah, probably, I think, because they do comparable music. I don't. I mean,

[Chad Ochocinco]

hey, well, that, that's tough, boy. It's iffy, though. It's iffy. When you get there, you get to comparing Beyonce to any goddamn body, boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, I think the thing like, like, like Stephanie Mills and Shaka, Patti LaBelle, Aretha.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But I don't know. I mean, I've never been to a marriage Mary J concert. I've been to Beyonce, so I got to take Beyonce. I guess I'm gonna have to do like you, Joe. I'm gonna have to slide and check her out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, she put on a show. Now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank you guys for joining us. Want to thank our special guest, Antoine Walker for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. There's my partner and co host, the Liberty City legend, the bingo ring of fame honoree, a former pro bowler and an all pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And the third member of the big three, a seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, that is ISO Joe Johnson. We want to thank our very special guest Antoine Walker for joining us and discussing the games. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from. We want to thank each and every one of you for your support because none of this happens without you. So again, thank you for joining us tonight. Thank you. Thank you for staying up late with us and thank you for staying throughout the entirety of it. We greatly, greatly appreciate your support. Again, thank you. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shave by Laportier head over to laportierconac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is a premium bsop. Cognac is smooth. It's great tasting, it's the best tasting, smoothest VSOP Cognac on the market. But it drinks like an xo. Please drink responsibly and stay safe the Minnesota Wolf Timberwolves snatch home court with thanks to a 104, 102 victory. Uh they held Wimby to five points two and eight, shooting over three and one for two of free throw attempts. Even though he had a historic night where he had a triple double with 12 block shots, it was not enough. Ant man coming back giving them 25 minutes, scored 18 points, got them over the hump as they win 104, the 102 and the New York Knicks throttle the 76ers 137 to 98. Jalen Brunson got it going and everybody else came along with him. OG had 18, Cat had 17, Mikhail Bridges had 17 as they got lead and they did not look back. So again, thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow night. I'm Unk, He's Ocho, he's ISO. Peace. Sam.

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