Nightcap Hour 3: Top 5 favorite Samuel L. Jackson roles, Poor Memphis accommodations

Summary

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Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 3 (April 6, 2026)

Episode Overview

In this episode of Nightcap, Shannon Sharpe (Unc), Chad Ochocinco Johnson (Ocho), and Joe "ISO" Johnson interact with fans via Q&A, discuss their favorite Samuel L. Jackson roles, riff on the challenges of building and renovating game rooms, reminisce about their upbringings and 90s TV technology, and comment on memorable NBA and NFL storylines, including athlete injuries, celebrity comparisons, and the complexities surrounding superstar accommodations in Memphis. The episode is charged with the hosts’ trademark humor, candor, and camaraderie.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Q&A With Fans & Video Voicemails [(02:38)–(17:36)]

Game Room Renovations & Cost Jokes (04:00–08:10)

• Ongoing banter about unfinished game rooms and escalating costs:
  • Ocho: "How about you send me the second half of that balance...then I can get it finished. Send me that 20,000, boy, we'll go ahead and get it." (04:30)
  • Joe: "No, I want to see the rendering. I want to see the finished product." (05:44)
• Reflections on the cost and reluctance to spend large amounts:
  • Joe: "I like it coming in. I don’t like it going out, honestly." (05:58)

Emotional Topics: Family, Mothers & Grief (09:27–09:55)

• Caller’s question about sharing stories of their mothers:
  • Joe (Unc): "Y'all want me on there crying and all that...I got some unpacked stuff that I ain't never had to unpack, and I don't know that's gonna make it." (09:27)
  • Ocho & Joe (Unc) agree that these stories would come out in their own time.

Ocho’s Influence on NFL Culture (11:32–13:32)

• Caller credits Ocho for pioneering cleat customization, grills, and touchdown celebrations:
  • Joe Johnson: "I was a little pioneer, Joe... I was just trying to express myself in another way. The NFL didn’t take kind to it… but I didn’t mind because I’m not playing for the money." (12:23)
  • On fines for expression: "They couldn’t control me by taking my money, because that’s the one way they keep ‘em in line… It didn’t work with me, so there was no way to control me." (12:55)

What Superpower Would You Choose? (13:40–16:55)

• Ocho wants to see the future for lottery wins and to provide for his kids.
• Unc and Ocho prefer invisibility or mind-reading, for sneaky reasons:
  • Joe (Unc): "I want to be able to read people minds or be invisible… I'd be in the room but you didn’t know I was there." (15:25)
  • Ocho: "I want to be invisible. Yeah. I want to be invisible." (16:38)

Long-Term Fan Tributes (17:36–24:00)

• Loyal fans call in to express long-term support for Shannon/Unc from his time at Undisputed through Club Shay Shay and Nightcap.
  • Ocho: "I really appreciate that. The support that I got from going on Undisputed… Club Shay… ESPN… what we started here… I can't thank you guys enough… it's all because of you guys." (18:23)
• Light-hearted exchange about learning Muay Thai and physical training.

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2. Sports, Athlete Comparisons, and Culture

Scrapping and Athlete Comparisons (25:23–26:42)

• Unc shares a story about comparisons to Andre Johnson and their similar mannerisms.
• Ocho jokes about taking fights too far and pushing limits in relationships.

Defending LeBron's Greatness & Athlete Longevity (30:08–32:08)

• Ocho: "That just goes to show you how great LeBron is, because you expect these superhuman feats from a 41-year-old." (31:01)
• Parallel drawn to Tom Brady’s expectations in his 40s.

Receivers With the Best Feet (32:08–34:00)

• Ocho dissects Doug Baldwin's skills vs. his own and other notable receivers:
  • "I mean my feet were great regardless of what area of the field I was in… But he's really, really, really good." (32:30)
  • Stevie Johnson gets mentioned as perhaps underrated.

NBA: Hardest Post Player to Guard (33:19–34:41)

• Joe (Unc): "Melo. Damn. He was mellow. Just relentless, bro… he probably had the best jab step I ever seen in the game." (33:28)

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3. Music & Pop Culture

Top Concert Choice: Jay-Z vs. Kanye (35:33–36:12)

• Joe (Unc): "If you can only go to one concert in July, I’m going to see Hov, bro." (35:39)
• Joe Johnson prefers Kanye for unpredictable visuals and production.

Top 5 Samuel L. Jackson Roles (46:52–49:29)

• Unc: "Jungle Fever, he was Gator. A Time to Kill with Matthew McConaughey. Stephen from Django." (46:59)
• Negotiator, Pulp Fiction, Black Snake Moan, Shaft, Lakeview Terrace, The Cleaners (strongly recommended by Joe).
  • Joe (Unc): "Hold on, hold on, y'all ever seen The Cleaners? ...Y'all gotta go watch that." (47:08)
• Sixth Sense and Unbreakable also get notable mentions.

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4. Nostalgia: Growing Up & Old School TVs (56:29–59:36)

• Reminiscing about pre-cable days, big satellite dishes, antenna hacks, and old TV consoles as family shelves.
• Ocho: “Back then, you ain’t have all the channels. You got like three channels…on, off, and don’t mess with me. That was it.” (58:27)
• Discussion about appreciating those humble beginnings for what they taught them about being self-sufficient and content.

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5. NBA Injuries, Athlete Wellness, and Parent Obligations

NBA Injuries & Game Schedules (37:20–38:31)

• Joe (Unc): "Guys have to take serious initiative as far as taking care of their bodies...One game is equivalent to three and a half, four miles running." (37:28, 38:10)
• Sleep, nutrition, and regimen called out as non-negotiables.

On Child Support and Custody Battles (39:08–43:53)

• Extended dialogue on state law, child support inconsistencies, and the reality for athletes:
  • Ocho: "California…they was on football salaries, paying 15,000 a month, man." (40:42)
  • "She want that money. She ain't trying to hear all that...you're gonna give me this money too." (40:38)
• Consensus that fame doesn't shield athletes from emotional and legal stress, but maturity helps: "As you get older, you start to realize why we fight. If you say you love the kid, I say I love the kid...let's do right for the kid." (39:57)

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6. Miscellaneous: Athletics, Challenge, and International Travel

• Discuss marathons vs. 800m running and why Ocho won't do the Boston Marathon. (44:06–45:44)
• Playful bets and trash talk about who would win on American Ninja Warrior. (50:39–51:14)
• Question about visiting Japan, reminiscing about how tough it was to even afford wrestling Pay Per Views as kids. (54:22–56:29)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On NFL Fines: "They couldn’t control me by taking my money, because that’s the one way they keep us in line...it didn’t work with me, so there was no way to control me." – Ocho (12:55)
• On Growing Up Poor: "Where do you think somebody got $20, $30, whatever? Oh, Lord have mercy. Mary Porter was not gonna spend no $20 to watch no SummerSlam when she was struggling to put baloney and stuff on the table." – Unc (55:42)
• On Legendary Receivers: "My feet were great regardless of what area of the field I was in ... But he's really, really, really good." – Ocho on Doug Baldwin (32:30)
• Nostalgia: "You just be coming home...it's just quiet." (58:52)
• Music Taste: "I just like the difference in Ye’s production...Kanye, boy. It’s different." – Joe Johnson (35:44, 36:12)
• Samuel L. Jackson’s Range: "God damn. He done been in a lot of movies, man. Jesus Christ." – Joe Johnson (48:17)

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Notable Timestamps

• 04:00 – Game rooms, renovation cost banter
• 09:27 – Emotional discussion on family, grief
• 11:32 – Legacy of NFL style and Ocho’s influence
• 13:40 – Superpower question
• 17:36 – Long-time fan tributes/support
• 30:08 – Debating LeBron's greatness at 41
• 32:08 – Elite receiver footwork discussion
• 35:39 – Concert choices: Jay-Z vs. Kanye
• 46:52 – Top 5 Samuel L. Jackson roles
• 56:29 – TV, cable & nostalgia segment

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Tone & Atmosphere

The tone is lighthearted but real—funny, teasing, at times deeply personal. There’s plenty of ribbing, but also genuine warmth and respect among the hosts and for their fans. Their reflections on family, adversity, and fame offer a blend of humility and pride in their roots.

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Summary

Nightcap Hour 3 delivers a satisfying mix of sports culture, nostalgia, off-the-dome humor, pop culture debates, and supportive community. Highlights include thoughtful reflections on family and fame, the legacy of player individuality in the NFL, playful competitive banter, and plenty of ‘remember when’ moments about old-school technology. The episode stands out for its authenticity and the seamless flow between laughter, life lessons, and listener connection.

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Transcript

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[Daniel Alarcon]

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[Brianna Stewart]

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[Miles Turner]

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[Brianna Stewart]

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[Miles Turner]

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[Brianna Stewart]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

I'm at 183.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We should race.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I want to leave here with my original hips.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Lily Herman]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Joe Johnson]

A. Yeah, I gotta wait. I gotta wait for the graphic to go.

[Joe (Unc)]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Uh.

[Joe (Unc)]

Oh.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe.

[Joe (Unc)]

What's happening?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Unc.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes?

[Joe Johnson]

What do you call a lamp that says please and thank you?

[Joe (Unc)]

A lamp.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

What do you call a lamp that says please and thank you,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

please? A lamp. Oh, Lord have mercy. A lamp that says please and thank you.

[Joe (Unc)]

No, it's gonna be something off the wall, too.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, it ain't off the wall.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I know, joe, but I can't say.

[Joe (Unc)]

What you got?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

L, I, t, e, n. He cheated.

[Joe Johnson]

He looking at the chat. Yeah, he.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Jordan told it.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, he did? Oh, yeah. All right, I got. I got one for tomorrow.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Before we get to our super chats, we've got five video voicemails from our discord. Let's take a listen to the first one, guys. Ocho, Joe.

[Joe (Unc)]

What's up? Juan, CEO from Chicago, man, I've been a fan since day one. Keep doing what y' all doing. Congratulations on the 2 million organic subs, man. Continue to do y' all work, but this. This here is for Ocho. Ocho, you said you was gonna have a new setup in a new game room two months ago, and you still ain't did it. So go ahead and.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Let's see.

[Joe (Unc)]

Where's the game room, man?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Where's the game room?

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I. I tell you. I tell you what, since you rushing the game room, how about you send me the second half of that balance that I owe him and I can. I can get the goddamn finished. Yeah, how about that? You send me that 20, 000, boy, we'll go ahead and get it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You already got the first part. 50. What you mean the second half? We ain't dead. Ish.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no, no. You know, you gotta. You gotta. You gotta send a deposit first.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What's that deposit.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, just to get the materials, and then once they come out, you know, so it's always like, hey, I got other important things I gotta take right now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho. Ocho. Ocho. You say that's if it's a lie. You told it. You said in two months this thing was going to be done. Now, either you lying then or you lying now. Now, which is.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I'm always lying. So I. I don't. I don't. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. I don't remember what I said last time, honestly. But. But he could send me that extra 20,000 to sending them folk, though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oo, look at me. I had to get mine done, Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, but you get his done, and I probably.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I promise you, it costs a lot more than 20.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I call it not. Nah, it's. It's 42 for what I got. I sent you the video. You saw that rendering from that video.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no, I want to see the rendering. I want to see the finished product.

[Joe Johnson]

No, that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the what got to be done.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I get it. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, but, hey, that crazy, huh, Ocho? It's crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Got it. Go ahead and put the money down.

[Joe Johnson]

I know. Hey, hey, listen. I like it coming in. I don't like it going out, honestly.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, but you the one. You the one that said you got these 50, 11 jobs.

[Joe Johnson]

I do.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I do.

[Joe Johnson]

It's good to see that thing stack up. I just don't like to see it going out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But you do know that's. That's a part of how it stack up.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Oh, it's gonna. It's gonna keep stacking, though, baby.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Huh? Can we. I mean. I mean, Joe. Joe, like. Joe, like. Hey, Joe said, hey, I'm going to hook mine up on.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe. Joe look like he in a goddamn psych ward or something.

[Joe (Unc)]

Nah, man, I'm in my. I'm in my room. I'm rearranging some stuff around here, but I bet you mine will be done for Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

I bet you won't bet none.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, I bet y' all will.

[Joe Johnson]

Let's bet.

[Joe (Unc)]

Bet.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, my mind gonna be stated all. Joe. Matter of fact, Joe, let me send it to you what it's gonna look like, Joe.

[Joe (Unc)]

All right, hold up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What good is that when you not paying the money? All the renderings. Oh, yo, you know what? Oh, I'm going to send you a rendering of this house that I'm never going to get. I want you to See it. Boy, that b.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, n. Hey. Hey. Honestly, I think I. I kind of. I kind of. I bit off more than I could chew. Getting all that expensive and then realizing what it really cost. And I just don't want to see you leave that account. Boy, I. I ain't even going to lie to you, know. You know how I am.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ooh. All you got to do is get a couple of shelves.

[Joe Johnson]

Shelf.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Did you see that? Hey. Where Ashes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You don't have to get that rendering. Okay? That's too much. That's top of the line. Scale it down.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'm. I'm. Scale it down. I'm gonna scale it down, but. Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Hey. It had a life, dog. Joe, that was unbelievable, man. Hold on, I'll send it to you. Joe, you can be like, golly, no,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

he ain't gonna say that. He said, I knew you lying. When I saw I knew you was lying. I know you lying, too.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, this thing nice, boy.

[Joe (Unc)]

What's wrong with him?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, but this is your work spot, Ocho. Don't you want your work spot to look nice?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'm finna get it, too, now. I'm finna get it now. Don't worry about me, baby. One thing about it. I'm gonna make you proud now,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man, Joe already said yours look like a Waffle House. So let me get them things scattered and diced. Let me say it.

[Joe Johnson]

Look like what?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Let me get scattered and dice.

[Joe (Unc)]

It look like you got a Waffle House sign back there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Here's a look. Here's our second one. Let's take a listen. What this young man had to say.

[Fan/Caller]

Hi, guys. Congratulations on 2 million subs and happy Easter. My first question is for you, Shannon. Shannon, I was wondering, how can I get my bottles of laportier autograph? And my second question is for you, Ocho. Ocho, are you going to bring your podcast the last run to Atlanta for the World FIFA Cup? And my last and final question is for you, Joe. Would you ever consider going on Club Shay? Shay? We know how much Shannon's grandma meant to him. And we know how much Ocho's grandma and mom meant to him, too. And we got to see Ocho and his mom in action on tv. I can tell that you adored your mom, and I would love to hear more stories about you and her. You are now my favorite hawk of all times. And I can't wait to see you on Club Shay and Happy Easter and good night, guys.

[Joe (Unc)]

Man, listen there. Y' all want me on there Crying and all that my story, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, look. Yeah, Joe, I be. I'd be on here crying all the time.

[Fan/Caller]

Yeah.

[Joe (Unc)]

I got some unpacked stuff that I ain't never had to unpack, man, and I don't know that's gonna make it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's the best place to unpack it, Joe. Just bring you some tissue.

[Joe (Unc)]

You know, talking about my mama and, you know, my grandma and. Man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, yeah, yeah, go ahead and let it out, Joe. I'm.

[Joe (Unc)]

I'm here.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, I'm a therapist, too. I got my license now.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, it'll happen. It'll happen in due time. We ain't got to rush that. We ain't got to rush that it happened. Yeah, yeah. All right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, we thought it was. I'm sorry. We thought it was a gentleman. It was a lady, so.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So she wanted.

[Joe (Unc)]

She wanted a port a bottle sign.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. You have to wait till I come back to Atlanta

[Joe (Unc)]

and it looked like.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know this. I'm trying to figure out how she got the cuz. They don't come in the box anymore.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, like that, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's what I'm saying. So you probably. You probably came when I was in Atlanta, because I've been in Atlanta, like, five, six bottle signings. Because the box that she had on show that we don't. We don't make that box anymore.

[Joe (Unc)]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

She got the original OG box.

[Joe (Unc)]

She probably got it way back then, though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, yes, yes. So you're gonna. When I come. When we come back to Atlanta, you're gonna have to show up. You have to show up at a siding and get it signed. Yeah, I'm gonna show up doing.

[Joe (Unc)]

I'm gonna show up, too. Hell, I got two bottles myself, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You don't drag down there one of the bottles.

[Joe (Unc)]

That don't mean nothing. Okay?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I want this. I want my bottle side. You want to. Empty bottle, sir? What the hell, Joe? I'm g. Keep that. You try to sell that empty bottle. There you go.

[Joe (Unc)]

I'mma keep it as a souvenir.

[Brianna Stewart]

Huh?

[Joe (Unc)]

You know what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Ocho, he don't. That's like, something. He got a jersey side. He out there shooting hoops in the jersey that got signed. Here's our third one. Let's take a listen.

[Raj (Fan/Caller)]

So what's happening, man? It's your boy Raj. I just want to say this real quick for Ocho. Hey, man, you a legend. You hear me? You know what I'm saying? If you look in the NFL today, You see a lot of Ocho, you feel me? People customizing their cleats. Ocho made that cool. People wearing grills. Ocho made that cool. People celebrating touchdowns. Ocho made that cool.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Did he pause it?

[Joe (Unc)]

That's it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, everybody froze. Yeah. Look like it.

[Joe (Unc)]

What you mean?

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't froze?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, the video froze. But he said, ocho, you need to get kudos, because a lot of things that we see in today's receivers are doing.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Grills to the customization of shoes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You. You were at the forefront of that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I was. I was. Hey, hey, Joe. I was a little pioneer Joe.

[Joe (Unc)]

You heard.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, I ain't really think about it like that. I was just, you know, trying to. Trying to. To. To. To.

[Joe (Unc)]

To.

[Joe Johnson]

To express myself in another way, you know, that. That's all. That's all. The NFL didn't. Didn't take. Didn't take kind to it, you know, they took my money from me, and I, I. I didn't mind because, you know, I'm not playing for the money. It's. It's good to be playing at a high level where you get paid to do what you love.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

That's not the sole reason why I'm here. You hear me, Joe?

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And. And I think what really pissed the NFL off, Joe, and is they couldn't control me by taking my money because that's the one way they keep them in line. Oh, shoot. My bad. I'm sorry. My bad. The one way they know they can keep us in line is by using money as initiative to take away from us.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

To make sure we behave. But it didn't work with me, so there was no way to control me. Sorry, my bad. My bad. For the Internet.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Joe (Unc)]

You just love. You just love. You just loved expressing yourself.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Love, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Love.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. And if I can do it again, I add some more to it. If I could do it again.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Fourth one. Let's take a listen.

[Fan/Caller]

What's up, Uncle Ocho and ISO?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What's going on?

[Joe (Unc)]

I just got a quick question for y'.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All.

[Joe (Unc)]

You know, I'm a big Marvel fan.

[Fan/Caller]

You feel me?

[Joe (Unc)]

So. And, Uncle, I see you always wearing these superhero shirts, so I just want to ask, if y' all could pick one superpower, one superpower to have, what would it be? And it Would you be a superhero

[Joe Johnson]

or a super villain?

[Joe (Unc)]

And why.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, what you choosing, Ocho?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, being able to tell the future, huh? Hey, Uncle, I want to be. I want to be. I want to be Able to tell the future, Uncle Joe, simply because I just want to play the lotto, and I want to know what the number's gonna be, okay? And when I win, I want to win the billion dollars, right? And I'm gonna take half. I'm gonna get but 500, maybe 600. 600 million.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You feel me? I'm gonna give. I'm gonna give each one of y' all 100 million a piece, right?

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Then I'm gonna give, you know, those I have kids from, I get them paid maybe 10 million a piece, you know? You know, I'm gonna give my kids.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You gonna walk the kids though, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You go walk the kids though, right?

[Joe Johnson]

They got to give me them kids. They got to give me them kids. I want custody. All my kids. And we gonna go live our own little life. I'm gonna build. Build a house we. That I just. I'm gonna go cra. Crazy for us. But I want. I want one tight unit and, man,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

the kids gonna get grown and move out that house. You gonna be stuck at that big ass house by yourself.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, listen, this house is. It's gonna be so big. It's gonna have a northeast and southwest end, but.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, they want to live their own life. They don't want to be stuck up under your ass forever.

[Joe Johnson]

It. It'll be big enough they can live their own life. You see how Boosie built one house and got houses for everybody else?

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I want. I want. I want to do that, but on a scale, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What's your superpower?

[Joe (Unc)]

I think it'll it mine with. I would want to be able to read people minds or. Or be. Or be invisible. Invisible in invisible. Invisible, yeah. To where you couldn't see me. I'd be in the room, but you didn't know I was in there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So you want to see if people be talking ish about you.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, There we go. There we go. I want to see what's going on.

[Joe Johnson]

Huh?

[Joe (Unc)]

Well, I ain't. Well, you don't think I'm there, but I'm sitting right there. You know what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, like a. Like a. What was that? Ghost. What you call it?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, that was a good movie.

[Joe (Unc)]

Patrick.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Patrick. Patrick Swayzer was in the room.

[Joe (Unc)]

That was a hell of a movie, that. Boy.

[Joe Johnson]

That was a good movie. Boy,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

what would I want? Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I like that reading of mine, but I don't know. Probably because my favorite superhero is the Hulk and all he has is strength, and so. I probably want. I kind of like. I Kind of like you, Joe. I kind of like read people mind.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

but you know what? I don't want to read the mind. I want to be invisible.

[Joe (Unc)]

You. You would want to.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I want to be invisible. Yeah. I want to be invisible.

[Joe (Unc)]

That.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Invisible. That.

[Joe (Unc)]

It hit a little different on the man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, they want to be invisible. That's too sneaky for me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I. I just.

[Joe Johnson]

I wanna. I just wanna. I just want to see the future. I want to know what's gonna happen before it happens. That's all.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, hell nah, man. I don't try to live like that. Nah, nah. Didn't the man tell you he can't let you know when your. When your. When your. When your appointment is. You gonna live a certain way.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, but see. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You gonna try to get right. He gonna try to get right like a month, two months before his time.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Yeah. I wouldn't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Where. Oh, at. Okay. I ain't gonna be able to do nightcap. I gotta be in church. Got the Holy Ghost. He preaching, Joe.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, yeah. I already know it. Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right. I fit the final one. There it is. Let's take a listen.

[Fan/Caller]

Unk. Ocho. ISO. Good evening from Broward County. Not too far from Ocho right now. I just wanted to express how proud I am of all you. Especially you, Unk. I've been. I've been a dedicated fan since probably 2018. I've been watching you five days a week for the past eight years. Ever since then, back when you was on Undisputed with Skip. Every day. I was always watching. Even when your contract ended with Fox. I was anticipating your next move. Waiting to see where you was going to go. Then Club Sh. Shay happened. Nightcap happened. I don't even remember when Nightcap happened. I just know that I was there for the first episode.

[Joe (Unc)]

That's what's up, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Appreciate that, man. I. I really, really appreciate that. The support that I got from going on Undisputed and being on there for seven years and building a fan base. And then, you know, people started Nightcap. Not Nightcap. Club.

[Daniel Alarcon]

Shay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Shay. And building a fan base there and moving over to ESPN for the two years I was there.

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[Joe Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

Really?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

How's this?

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Come on.

[Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

How can I go any faster?

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Joe Johnson]

That's too fast.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Lily Herman]

a different take on Formula One? Look no further than no Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid.

[Joe Johnson]

Lewis Hamilton, Capricorn Sun Cancer Moon.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Wouldn't you know it? Michael Schumacher is also a Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon.

[Lily Herman]

The story of the sport's most consequential driver strikes. We have one man who, upon hearing that he was going to be fired, freaked out and apparently climbed out the window of the bathroom. And was Daniel Ricardo's illustrious F1 career a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He started getting all of this attention

[Lily Herman]

and he maybe started to think, I'm bigger than this, I'm better. And plenty of other mishaps, scandals and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to no Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Green]

I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of the Fault in Our Stars and now I guess also as the co host of the Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast.

[Daniel Alarcon]

I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, the Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World cup for US Soccer.

[John Green]

Football is a story we've shared for over 30 years, since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Very debatable.

[John Green]

And I was their most loyal and sometimes Only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, its heartbreak, and above all, its beauty.

[Daniel Alarcon]

Together we'll find out why. Of all the unimportant things football, soccer is the most important.

[John Green]

Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Miles Turner]

What's up? I'm Miles Turner.

[Brianna Stewart]

And I'm Brianna Stewart.

[Miles Turner]

And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before.

[Brianna Stewart]

Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court.

[Miles Turner]

Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests.

[Brianna Stewart]

What's the vibe of that when it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave and then actually now I'm going to stick. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's like definitely happening in the wnba.

[Miles Turner]

And yeah, we talk about our mistakes too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night. You can't be rolling around the city like this the night before games, doing this, doing whatever.

[Brianna Stewart]

And of course, family stories. They'll be like, mommy, why did you miss that?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Mommy, do you play basketball?

[Brianna Stewart]

Check out Game recognized game with Stewie and miles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

and then starting nightcap. All that in the process. And Ocho and I, what we started here and then, you know, we had Gail for a little while and then Junior for a little while and then we finally found a guy that settled in and Joey just picked right up. And this has been amazing. I can't thank you guys enough because you guys make it as possible where this Nightcap Club Shay show or whatever platform I'm on, the success that we get to enjoy on said platform, it's all because of you guys. And bro, I can't thank you enough. So I appreciate your support. I really, really do. Boss man. Hey, Unc, we need a Mighty Mouse Jon Jones and a Ray Lewis on Club shay. Also, I'm 28, starting Muay Thai tomorrow. Any advice? I'm nervous and excited. Hell no. I don't know nothing about no Muay Thai.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I know. I know about. I know. I know about Muay Thai.

[Joe (Unc)]

On what you know, man?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, what you mean, what I know, man? Joe. Joe, look at me. Joe.

[Joe (Unc)]

Okay, I see you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Bounce.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. I know. Look, I know. I love somebody that multi night. Like. Like, for real when it comes to combat. Hey, Joe, you gonna see. Wait till. Like, wait. Not when I get in the ring with you because I really whoop your ass, but wait till I get in there with one of the real boxers. You're gonna be like, what the hell? This could really hang.

[Joe (Unc)]

I'm gonna. Hey, hey. I'm gonna teach you to stop playing with me. And my name. I'll tell you right now, I ain't the one. You hear me?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Hey, boy. And you might be 6, 8, but when I'm done with you, gonna be about 5, 8. I'm gonna bring you home down here with me. Hey, hey, hey. Speaking of combat sports. What? You seen Jaron Ennis and Xander Zay asked for the fight.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I heard that.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, June 27th. Yeah, the press conference, April 8th.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Joe (Unc)]

Where they fighting at, man?

[Joe Johnson]

In Brooklyn. That's gonna be a good one, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Sam legrand. Hey, I saw. How many times have people told you that you and Andre Johnson favor? Since you and Ocho are supposed to scrap, just make sure you don't do it bad as Andre did. Courtland Finnegan, I'm gonna do them just like no Ocho sitting there listening to all them injuries. Okay, thank you. Y' all just need to eat. Ronald McDonald,

[Joe (Unc)]

man, listen, you know, that

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

was a good question.

[Joe (Unc)]

The funny part about it is this is a while back, man. I hung out with Andre Johnson, and everybody always say we look alike. I think the scariest thing is we got the same mannerisms, Uncle Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Unc)]

You know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

Why a quiet.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, but don't. Don't. Hey, you see, if you piss, you piss Andre off. You see what happened, don't you?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Unc)]

I just want you to know, Ocho. Yeah. I'm gonna treat you just like that. That. That boy, he did.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He re.

[Joe (Unc)]

Rag dolled him out there.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. You think so, Joe?

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah. But now, Dre a good dude, though. Uncle Ocho, y' all already know that he was once a Jordan Brand athlete. We both was on the Brand. So I got A chance to kick it with him a few times, but super cool dude. And if I had to say anything, do we probably look like a little bit? Yeah, but I think our mannerisms.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Mannerism, yes.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They.

[Joe (Unc)]

They. They the same pretty much.

[Joe Johnson]

God damn. God damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Dre, Kevin, non delusional cowboy fan. Hey, and Joe, leave my man Ocho alone. He ain't the only. He ain't the only freak on the show.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, what he said.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He said you're not the only freak on the show.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, no, I'm not saying that Ocho is, but Ocho take it too far.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah. What you. He just ain't got.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm not. I'm not doing nothing that's not in the Bible. It's. It's in the Bible. I got a question for you right here, Uncle Joe. I gotta go. And I know you're gonna know this answer. What chapter come before James? What chapter in the Bible come before James?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

LeBron. That's what I'm talking about.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what I'm talking about, baby.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Let's go. I mean, oo, you go too far. I think the thing is, Joe and I, because we got limits. Yeah, we like, hey, hey, we. We. We enjoy our partner. And you know, we. Hey, hey, baby.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, but you.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, nah, nah. Ain't no limits. Ain't no limits when it come to having a partner unknown. You need to explore. You need to experiment. When you go deep diving, when you go deep sea diving, it's about searching all of the ocean or what you can be and what you can search for until you got to come up for oxygen. That's what y' all need to do. All right? I need both of you, whoever you're dealing with, whoever you're talking to, I need them to take you to the depths of the goddamn abyss and try some new, man.

[Joe (Unc)]

Hey, hey, we. Hey, we had tons of funds over here, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Y', all, hey, chat now. Y' all know. Y' all know. Y' all know. Hey, good time. Don't owe no nothing a good time to. Oh, no nothing. I mean, side the highway. You know, I'd have been, you know, hey, the poolside. The road, it rain.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, see, now, see, that's old, man. We got to graduate August 2026. There's so many different things we can be doing there. Like, just listen to me, listen to me. I'm trying to get y' all boys, like, to that next level. There's levels to everything. And the level y' all At y' all at level two. I need to get about. I need you to get to level eight.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause, see, if I tell y', all, y' all gonna know it's me. But there was somebody with a ski mask on the balcony a couple of months ago. I just said. I just said. I ain't said it was me, but there was somebody. You know what I'm saying? He had a ski mask on. About 20 folds up. I'm like, dang, what did somebody know that would be tfd? TS Car wash detail service. Be my attorney and defend me like you do. Braun. Them Lakers not getting out of the first round. Let's keep it real. Oo. Who had better feet than Doug Baldwin? ISO.

[Joe (Unc)]

Who.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who is the hardest post to guard? Be my attorney and defend me. Oh, that's easy. Hey, did you do it? Even if you didn't do it, I can get you off. That's the job. I mean, you make my job easier when you didn't do it.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what I'm saying? It's easy to defend somebody. But you know what? A lot of times they don't even ask you because they don't want to know, right? They don't want to know. They don't. They don't want to know. No, bro. So let me ask you a question. So if I took Shay, Chet Holmgren and. And Jalen off of okc, are they getting out of the first round? So if I took Jokic, Jamar Murray, and Aaron Gordon off the Nuggets, are they getting out of the first round?

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, let me take.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm gonna take Jason Tatum, I'm gonna take Jalen Brown, and I'm going to take Pritchet off the Celtics. Are they getting out of the first round? So let's just say this. I'm going to take the two best players off any team. So that's going to be Shay and. And Jaylen. I'm going take JB and jt. I'm going take Jokic and Murray. Champ, who's getting out of the first round?

[Joe Johnson]

None of them.

[Joe (Unc)]

None of them.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So I'm just trying to figure out what you mean. That just goes to show you how great LeBron is, because you expect these superhuman feet from a 41 year old.

[Joe (Unc)]

That's all they know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's how great he is. That's your. That's how you knew how great Tom Brady was. Because what, we were expecting things from a 42, 43 year old that we didn't expect from anybody else. We never Expected a quarterback in his 40s to play like Brady. We expect LeBron James at, in year 23. First of all, nobody's ever played 23 season. Nobody has played as great as he did in year 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23. Expectation level that we have for. That's what greatness is. Oo, yeah. You had better feet than Doug Baldwin. A lot of people had better feet than Doug Baldwin. I think Doug Baldwin was a phenomenal player. Yeah, I got feet like Ocho. He, he ain't got feet like Devonte Adams. He ain't got feet like Lloyd.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think they just look at the, the, the clips of some of the stuff that he, he's done in, in short and intermediate routes. But he, he, he, he has very, very good, great feet in condensed place running short routes. I think that's what they're mistaken. I mean, if that's the case, you might will put Hunter Winfro in there as well.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean we, we had, I mean, Devon. Oh, yes. Another one. I mean my, my feet were great regardless of what area of the field I was in. Whether it was short, whether it was long routes at 20 yards. Either way, I'm running full speed and I'm stopping on the dime. It's a difference. You can't even compare the two. But he's really, really, really good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't think his feet better than Keno McArdo, Jimmy Smith.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, let me, let me. You know what, Matter of fact, let me, let me throw Stevie Johnson in there too. Because I think Stevie's feet were better than mine. What he's able to do off the line, I ain't still ain't seen nobody do that to this day.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think Stevie might have been a little bigger than you two. Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he talked about six, four. Steven was tall. He was tall.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

For him to move like that at

[Joe Johnson]

that size, man, he would twitch you, boy.

[Joe (Unc)]

What was, what was the question?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He says, who is the hardest in the post to guard?

[Joe (Unc)]

In the post?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe (Unc)]

Mellow. Damn. He was mellow. Just relentless, bro. He like a bull. He like. It ain't even just a post, but he posted up a lot. Mid post, low post, you know what I mean? High post. Like he was one dude who posted up quite a bit. The guy who really brought the ball up the court a lot. He was a great half court set guy. Meaning like you throw it to him, he catch it, he gonna get to his first. I think he was the hardest post player to guard, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You hear that? A Lot. A lot of people said that about Mello.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, yeah. Cause look, his. His mid range was automatic, so he hit you with that jab. He probably had the best jab step I ever seen in the game. Hoops, you know what I mean? With a jump shot, man, that's hard to stop, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I like that move, Joe. That mellow dude when he. When he got the ball and he had. He had put that shoulder into you.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Come back just to create a. Chris. Create a little bit of space.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And that. That going all. Every. Every goddamn time.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah. Hey, hey. I got that move in my repertoire. So imagine you guard me and I hit you with that shoulder. I hit you with your shoulder.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you know you got that. You got that too.

[Joe (Unc)]

Come on, man. I got a little bit of everything in my game. Oh, yo, stop playing.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, but, but Joe. I know how to stop it, though, Joe. After watching it multiple times, how you stop it? Because, listen, when you put that shoulder into me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna grab the bottom of your elbow. So when you come back, I'm bringing myself back right with you. And I'm gonna block that. I'm in your face. I'm in your face. Hey. And I'm. I'm gonna call cookies when I block it.

[Joe (Unc)]

Oh, I'm built. I'm built for all the BS in your game, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All the fouling.

[Joe (Unc)]

I'm built you.

[Joe Johnson]

Whatever you. Joe, we can make a jailhouse ball if you want to.

[Joe (Unc)]

It. Don't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't make me no different out of yourself, Joe.

[Joe (Unc)]

Don't make me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

This.

[Joe Johnson]

This what I do. You're not gonna out talk me. You're not gonna outplay me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay?

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just letting you know.

[Joe (Unc)]

All right?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, one thing I'm gonna do, even though it's not my sport, I'm going to compete hard as hell.

[Joe (Unc)]

It's okay. I want you to compete.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But that.

[Joe (Unc)]

That ain't gonna do nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right. All right.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe who?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Big Mike one Yay a hov. If you can only go to one

[Joe (Unc)]

concert in July, I'm going to see Holes, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm going to see Yay. And it's nothing about the comparison of them as an artist. I just like the. The difference in Yay production. Bingo. All right. That's what I'm getting. The creativity, the visuals. Ain't no telling what you're gonna see because Yay is unpredictable. He's not. He's unpredictable.

[Joe (Unc)]

I seen him out there on that world. I seen him on their world. That was hard.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That was.

[Joe (Unc)]

That ain't gonna lie. That's hard. I seen it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh. So I think I'm about to agree with you on this one. I think I'm about to go see. Yay.

[Joe Johnson]

When you go. Yeah, when you go watch hov. You know, he gonna have lights. You're gonna have, you know, the. The visuals on the Jumbotron behind him, you know, but he's just standing there, just walking back and forth, rapping what we already know. Kanye, boy. It's different.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Sexy Ed boy, I asked Gemini to Sim. 100 games. Ravens vs. The 05 Bengals. Ravens win, 64 to 36. Ray Lewis and Chad Johnson were MVPs. Raven D was just too suffocating for Carson Palmer.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't. I don't like that. I'm trying to figure out what the hell. I'm trying to figure out what the hell them 64 points came from. And they had no goddamn like that, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

A hundred games. We beat y' all 64 times. Y' all beat us 36 times. I'm just trying to figure out after the first game, how did y' all have anybody eligible to play? Cause we hurt y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All. Joe, you see that, Joe?

[Joe (Unc)]

I see a little pebble you got in there.

[Joe Johnson]

That ain't no pebble, Joe. That's 30 inches there, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Skater, double xl, ISO. What do you think NBA players need to do to stop getting injured so much? And should they consider lowering the gains?

[Joe (Unc)]

No, don't. I don't think they should lower the games, but I do think guys have to take serious initiative as far as taking care of their bodies. Uncle Ocho. Training properly, all that goes hand in hand. Eating right, training properly, getting. Getting the right amount of risk. Because I think what's taken for granted as a professional, the thing, especially in basketball, because you got to play almost every other night back to back, you may play four games in five nights. And what I've. I've always told y', all, that's equivalent. One game is equivalent to three and a half, four miles running. So if you doing that four out of five nights, bro, it's. You know, you got to be taking care of yourself.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Wear your body down.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah. Gotta be taking care of yourself.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You do. Gotta get your sleep, man. Gotta get your rest. Gotta get those nutrients in you, you know, quality food.

[Joe (Unc)]

Gotta get your treatment. When you don't feel like going there to get treatment, you gotta get all that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Not gonna lower the game. Cause you lower the game, you lower the pay. Sheldon Pope, do you believe Luca? Dealing with the child support petition his ex filed in California, but despite living abroad, was weighing heavily on him. I mean, she's trying to take. She won't shoot. I. I guess she won't sole custody. It's going to be hard for her to prove that she didn't have the kids in California. Even though he's a California resident. I don't think the other. I don't know if were the kids. Any of the kids conceived in Cali. It's going to be hard because Cali won't have jurisdiction.

[Joe (Unc)]

That's tough, bro. That's tough.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm sure he's dealing with it. I'm sure. I'm sure that's on his mind. Only natural.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah. Yeah, it's only natural.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, look, we. Joe, I don't know if you had to do with the Ocho, but you and I, we were in the smack dab in our career, and we had to deal with it. Yeah.

[Joe (Unc)]

Hell, yeah. I had to deal with it, too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay. So you. You know.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, I know exactly what it's like.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That stressful, you know, like. Come on, you ain't got to do this. I ate whatever you. Nah. Part of them want to embarrass you, and all kind of fools have your business all out there.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, I know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But hopefully it gets resolved at the end of the day. Two parents bickering. I think the thing is that as you get older, you start to realize why we fight. If you say you love the kid, I say I love the kid. Let's do what's right for the kid. Me and you going back and forth. We. Whatever we had, we don't have that anymore. But let's do right. Right for the kid.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't got no beef with you. I want you to be happy. You found happiness over there. I found happiness. Where I'm at. I ain't got no problem. I want to do. I want to do. Why do you think I'm doing this?

[Joe (Unc)]

Absolutely.

[Joe Johnson]

She want that money. She ain't trying to hear all that. Yeah, we gonna do right by the kid. But you're gonna give me this money, too. I'm taking this money with me.

[Joe (Unc)]

Hey, hey. What the type of money that boy making right now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, oh, oh, Luca. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying because California, boy, look here. I know some people in California where they were. Hey, they was on football salaries, paying 15,000amonth, man.

[Joe (Unc)]

Listen, I know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I know. Luca. Hey, Luca. Probably. I mean, if they. If they have let California have jurisdiction over that bro, he probably have to give up 50, 60, 70,000amonth.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, I know some people who ain't per child.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Let me take that back on your poor child. Maybe more.

[Joe (Unc)]

Hey, hey, I know some. I know some girls who didn't even live in California. Moved to California just to file.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

God damn. Yeah, Joe. Justify, Joe.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, yeah. Cause you're gonna get a lot more in California than you would anywhere else

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

they'll let you have. Because normally. Because normally, wherever the child was conceived.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Is that, Is that how they try to. Is that how they try to do it? Some states, like, they cap it. Okay, how much money you make? You go get this. Yeah, I think there are a couple of southern states, but see, in order to do that, you're gonna have to have somebody that's in the legislate, that's in the legislative that make the laws. You're gonna have to have them get jammed up and then they'll sleep that thing through. They'll get that. Through that. You get that special session, get that thing done.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, but yeah, it was, it was a. It's tough, man. It's tough.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe (Unc)]

Imagine. Imagine him having to deal with all that and he got to go out here and play and compete at a high level.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You.

[Joe (Unc)]

That's always going to be in the back of your brain, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Because you thinking like these kids. Two one's, two. And I think he just had one. So you mean to tell me a two and a half, two month old, three month old, they need fifty, sixty, seventy, a hundred thousand a month?

[Joe (Unc)]

Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

A month.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you know, you know that, you know how that game.

[Joe (Unc)]

But hold up, though. Hold up, hold up. But, but I, you know, when you look at it like, who in the. Who in the hell. Granting that, like, why. Why come people can't use a common sense? Like, why. Why would a, why would a judge make somebody pay that type of money, bro, when you know they don't need.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They factor in, Joe. This is what they do. They said if you, if the child live with you, you have to maintain a lifestyle that. But the child ain't live with me.

[Joe (Unc)]

Cold game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's the thing of the past. Hey, hey, look, it's sometimes, like I said, that's why you got to be good. That's athletes, you got to be good at compartmentalizing because you dealing with a lot of things that people don't know, be it injuries, be it family issues, be it stuff like this. And you still got to go out there and perform Cause them fans don't give a damn about what you got

[Joe (Unc)]

going on at all. Right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We paid our money. We paid 50, 100, whatever the tickets cost. Now do what you do, Shannon. Do what you do. Oh, I. So come on now.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, all right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You better do what you do. I don't miss that. Look, I. My kids, we have great relationships. I have a great relationship with my kids. I got two grands now. But it's not easy. I mean, everything went peaches. I mean, it took a while to get to this point.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, because they're taking.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It takes a lot of growing on both parents. A lot. Wazoo. Ocho gonna run the Boston Marathon. You doing the Boston Marathon this year, Ocho?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, hell no.

[Joe (Unc)]

You've done it before, Ojo.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I know. I mean, I run, you know, I train with my daughter. That's about it. But I mean, she do 800, 400. That's about as far as I go now. Marath, son, absolutely not.

[Joe (Unc)]

Oh, you ain't no distant runner.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I mean, they Joe that 800, but that's a little tough there, boy. That's. That's enough distance for me.

[Joe (Unc)]

How far is the 800, Ojo?

[Joe Johnson]

Two laps. Two laps?

[Joe (Unc)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, that's two laps. We booking though, when we training.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe (Unc)]

Hey, y'.

[Brianna Stewart]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey. Hey, how long you think the Boston Marathon is? Like how many miles?

[Joe (Unc)]

Oh, hey, y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Joe (Unc)]

Y' all ever time y' all self in the mile

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

in high school, I could run a sub six minute mile.

[Joe (Unc)]

Oh, boy, I don't remember you booking. I ran a mile, which is my plan for the house. We used to have to do a. We used to have to do a conditioning test. You had to run a mile and you had to chart your time. Like we had a trainer out there charting our time. Ran it in like 7:30, something like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I read. Ocho, you remember you used to have a 12. You ever had in college? Y' all had a 12 minute run where you run around the football? You run. We run around two football fields, so we had to run around two football fields for time. So you had 12 minutes. So you just continuously run for 12 straight minutes?

[Joe Johnson]

No, I don't remember that. At your own pace.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, you had to get X amount of laps. You had to get it. You had to get at least six laps.

[Joe Johnson]

Six laps, 12 minutes. Okay, that's. That's feasible. Wait, yeah. One football field or two football fields?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Run around two football fields.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, sure. Oh, that's a different ball game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hell, yeah. And football, we ain't built. I mean, I would come from a track background, so I knew how to pace myself, know how to breathe. But people that ain't run no track and offense and defensive linemen, I mean, I think they probably had like, three, but, you know. Cause you know how it is. It's the same thing with the sprints, Ocho. You know, you wide receivers running, and everybody else, you know, they got 14 seconds, and then you got 16 seconds for the tight end, the linebackers, right? And then you got 20 seconds for them slow ass O line and D liners. So you just a 16 with a breeze. Cause we. When we ran getting in shape, we did 14, right? So 16 is a breeze. I. I ain't even breaking a sweat with that one. R Day. What's up, guys? Love from Raleigh, North Carolina, Since y' all talked about him yesterday, what are your top five Samuel L. Jackson roles?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Jungle Fever, he was Gator. A Time to kill with Matthew McConaughey.

[Joe Johnson]

That's a good one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Stephen. Django.

[Joe (Unc)]

Hey, hold up. Y' all ever seen this movie called the Cleaners?

[Joe Johnson]

Nah.

[Joe (Unc)]

Hold on, hold on, Sam. It's Samuel Jackson. He. What's the people who come clean after, like a murder or something in your house?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't seen that, but I don't

[Joe (Unc)]

think I've seen that one called the Cleaners. Bro, y' all gotta go. Y' all got to go watch that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm gonna watch that there.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, you remember. You know a good movie, Ocho?

[Joe (Unc)]

Guys.

[Joe Johnson]

Which one?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Negotiator. You remember the Negotiator?

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, I do. Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't think I saw the Negotiator, and I'm Fiction.

[Joe (Unc)]

Pulp Fiction.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm looking at some of. Some of the movies now. Remember Black Snake Moon?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, you know, told me about that. Hey, I was in the phone. That's why I want to be in the phone at.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, I forgot. I forgot. Samuel Jackson was in swat.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Swat? Shaft.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep, Shaft.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Chef was cold.

[Joe Johnson]

God damn. He done been in a lot of movies, man. Jesus Christ.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, that.

[Joe (Unc)]

Reasonable Doubt.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Lakeview Terrace.

[Joe (Unc)]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He was a. Mother

[Joe Johnson]

was crazy. He was a terrorizing ass neighbor boy.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's like, have you seen anybody beating my. No, I just see you two.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you know what? Pulp Fiction soul man, Pulp Fiction is up there with one of the best.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Absolutely. No. Yep.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, man. Y', all. Y' all check out that cleaner. When y' all ain't got nothing to do.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm definitely gonna see it. I like you remember, he was in. He branched off, but remember he was sixth sense. So. Mr. Glass unbreakable.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, with James McAvoy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

Wait, sixth sense, that's the movie with the little kid.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. With what you call it? With Bruce Willis. Yeah, that was a great. Hallie. Joel Osman. Yeah, that was a great movie.

[Joe Johnson]

That was a good movie. Good movie.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I did not know. Boy, they had. They. Hey, I did not know to the very end of that, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Same, same. My favorite part. Remember they were stuck in traffic on him and the little kid, and the smoke kept coming out his mouth like the cold. Like it was cold or something. That was a really good movie. The Sixth Sense. That was a really good one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Tommy G. Last I checked, the world's strongest man was Mark Henry. I agree. They've been some. Some strong men. Colton. They got this guy named Colton now. He's pretty strong.

[Joe (Unc)]

Talking about doing them strong man competition.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man, I used to love strong man competition. I used to watch with Bill Kazmeier when they had. Come on abc, you had Bill Cashmere, Campatera, Paul Wren. Oh, man, I used to watch it when they had, uh, uh, John Paul Sigma. Sigma. So, Drunas Levickus. Hey, what's the obstacle, Mario Pujanowski.

[Joe (Unc)]

Huh? What's the obstacle course thing that people be doing? They be running. You have to jump up there, grab them things, then jump off and run up to y'. All. Y' all know what I'm talking about. It's called.

[Joe Johnson]

It's like American Ninja.

[Joe (Unc)]

Ninja, Ocho. Me and you. American Ninja. I bet I beat you.

[Joe Johnson]

I like that. I like that.

[Joe (Unc)]

I beat you in America.

[Joe Johnson]

I like that. Hey, Joe, you gonna struggle because you can't lift your own body weight, man?

[Joe (Unc)]

You crazy.

[Joe Johnson]

You can't. Yup. You don't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You don't.

[Joe Johnson]

Your upper body strength ain't like that, Joe.

[Joe (Unc)]

You tripping, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, your core is weak.

[Joe (Unc)]

Ocho, you don't know me very well.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm looking at you, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, I can see.

[Joe Johnson]

I can see through you, Joe.

[Joe (Unc)]

Okay. All right.

[Joe Johnson]

You can't beat me or nothing, man. Huh, Joe, you can't beat me in nothing, my boy.

[Joe (Unc)]

You gotta take that full gaze crown off, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

You know, I got this crown from where, huh? Caesar gave it to me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Julia or Augustus Julius. Frightburn. Uh, here you talk about your granddad yesterday and him not playing. Didn't surprise me growing up. Black during the peak of racism. Wouldn't find Ish funny either.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Did any joke ever make him laugh? What's the hardest you've seen him laugh? Occasionally he did. I mean, he liked.

[Joe (Unc)]

He liked comedy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, Red Fox was his favorite comedy in the 70s. Westerns were the thing.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. So you had Gunsmoke and you had Big Valley. You had things like that Bonanza. So Westerns were the thing. He was a big, big John Wayne. He had no idea John Wayne had the history that he had. Didn't know anything about that. And I'm watching the Bob Barker documentary. Lord have mercy. Didn't know about Bob Barker, but people talk about. Oh, but he did a lot for pets. Goes to show you, he carried more love pets more than he looked. But we'll talk about that. Let y' all watch it first before we get into that.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm trying to think he watch nothing, but mainly what the news he watched mainly news. Didn't watch a whole lot of stuff, but he. I'm trying to think the hardest.

[John Green]

Pop.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I laughed. I don't really recall. My grandfather grew up in it. You know, you get a barrel of laughs from. You know where that term comes from?

[Joe (Unc)]

Where?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

In the south when my grandfather grew up, you couldn't laugh in public. You had to stick your head in a barrel and laugh. Why? What? Boy, you could laugh in the South. You laughing in public and white.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, okay, okay. I see what you mean.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no, sir. Bad. Please. You can't even wear your uniform if you're in the military. You couldn't wear your uniform out in public.

[Joe (Unc)]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He grew up in a different. He grew up in a different time. I don't. I'd have to ask Spanky because Spanky called me today because I know somebody. He called me like three times. I missed him every time. But I know somebody called and was telling him what I had said on Nightcap and asked if any of that was true. I. I know. I know they did. I know that's why he was calling me. I. I don't recall him laughing that much. I don't. I don't. I honestly don't. Guys, Bill's mob said Nightcap visits Japan when.

[Joe Johnson]

Visits where?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Japan.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, who paying for them flights?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's two bad. Please. Roadrunner underscore Ryan. Kevin Durant addressed the poor Memphis accommodations on out of the Mud podcast with Tony Allen and Zach Randolph, both who played in Memphis and agreed the world just loved to target LeBron. Yeah, two guys that played there. Two guys that. That. That, you know, obviously played at a high level. Kevin Durant spoke about, like, blah, blah, blah. But

[Joe (Unc)]

Brian word is what he understand.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Look, I think the thing is, like you said, Ocho and Joe. Joe, you said it. It says his words are powerful and. And. And so obviously, you know, people like to hate that he said it. I don't, you know, like I said, I understood what he was talking about. I don't know how much time that obviously in 23 years he's been to Memphis every year. Yeah. And I don't know if he's gone out or did anything in Memphis. I don't know. Just says, you know, you know, he don't like staring, he don't like playing. And I don't think it had anything to do with the people. It's just one of those. One of those towns with this. The. The accommodation wasn't up to his satisfaction.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah. So, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Big three. Other than WrestleMania and SummerSlam, can you name other WWE Pay per view events were a ple. And that you remember from the time you watch now, bro, you gotta realize we coming up. First of all, we didn't have cable in the country. You couldn't get cable in the country. You had to be in the city limits to get cable. So all that, no way. And you had to pay for that where the money was coming from. Where you think somebody got $20, $30, whatever. Oh, Lord have mercy. I promise you, Mary Porter was not gonna spend no $20 to watch no SummerSlam when she was struggling to put baloney and stuff on the table. Hell, no.

[Joe (Unc)]

What happened?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I don't know, Joe, Ocho, maybe y' all had cable and maybe y' all watched SummerSlam, but we watch if it didn't come on regular tv. Yeah, that was it.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, remember that big satellite dish? My granddaddy. My granddad had that big satellite dish.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Like a goddamn ufo, you know? And it turned left and right. I remember that. That's about it.

[Joe (Unc)]

We had them hangers on the back of the TV for antenna. Just.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We had. We had a pole that. You go out there, right there, right there, right there. That's it. Then you let it go to get fuzzy. Get on. No, don't turn it back. I said, if y' all think I'm about to hold this pole while y' all watching tv, y' all crazy bad. Please. Oh, I remember. There were the days, Ocho. There were the days we had a. Back then, we called them floor models. Yeah, we had the big console TV show.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That joker went out. That was a shelf you put other stuff on and just set another little TV right on top of it.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, the. Hey, it was a good day. Good days.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Flow bottle, man. Z, Zenith and Sony were the TVs.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah. Hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Big flow. Big flow. Model TV.

[Joe (Unc)]

And my grandma used to.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But Mishi used to make TVs.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Clean. I mean, clean, too. Clean tv. Nice.

[Joe (Unc)]

Hey, my grandma used to be peed off. Boy, we hooked that. That video game up to that tv. You going to knock my color out my TV with that video.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, it don't break. Hey, had the vice grips on there to turn the channel. Yes, sir.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Because. Hey. Cause you done lost the knobs.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. You don't broke. You don't broke that thing up. Yeah, you get the flower. But back then, you ain't have all the channels. You got like three channels. You had like channel three because you got like abc, NBC, cbs.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Every once in a while we could get like, maybe late at night you get double JCL, channel 22. But you got like. And then you mess around and mess it up. Oh, we had three channels. On, off, and don't mess with me. That. That was it. Hey, you messed that up, boy. What? Nothing. Like, man, the TV go out. Ain't had no money, baby. You just be coming home like me and Spagy. Just play basketball till it was dark. We just be outside playing basketball and throwing the football or something. Come in. It just. It's just quiet.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

The good days.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But it was a damn good day. Who told you that?

[Joe Johnson]

You don't miss the. You don't miss them days?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hell, no.

[Joe (Unc)]

Hey, hey, them days molded you, though. They molded you into who you are.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You ain't got no choice.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's why I don't really have any problems being by myself because like, once my brother. My brother's three years older, so by the time he went to college, I'm a. I'm. I'm going to be a sophomore. So I was a freshman, he was a senior. He goes to college my sophomore year. My sister eight years older than me, my sister dating. So basically just me, my grandma and. And. And my nephew.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So I. That's why I really have no problem, you know, being alone.

[Joe (Unc)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And not talking because my grandma. Woo. That boy know he can talk. So you just learned that. You learned to be quiet. Yeah. Varys 117 ISO. I was watching Nas play the other day and was wondering what you thought about his game since you played with him. Also, why you don't think the guy. The space in that space. Don't go to the league in the

[Joe (Unc)]

one on one space. That's what he's talking about. I hadn't, I hadn't played with Nas yet. Obviously he's on the Detroit Amps team this year and we teammates this year. But I watch a lot of the one on one, the one v one space and Nas is great. He's been great since he joined the Big three. He been in the championship game the past two years. He just hadn't won it. Which is one of the reasons why we picked him up this year. Just a competitor, ultra competitor who just wants to win, bro. And he competes at the highest level. So I'm excited to be a teammate of his.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Do y' all think Watson has a chance to be in the quarterback battle? I think it's his two job to lose. I really don't think it's close. Last we saw DW4, he wasn't a starting core caliber quarterback. That was before the injuries.

[Joe (Unc)]

We gonna see.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, I think that definitely. I mean the man making 40 something

[Joe Johnson]

million dollars, he gonna be a starter.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, unless he gets injured again, I agree with you.

[Joe Johnson]

That's it. It's his job to lose making 40 million this year. He's going to be given the chance to start and be the starting quarterback. Will he be the starting quarterback of the future? Probably not. So I think whatever he does this season to date is basically a resume. He's, it's part of his resume, you know, to see if he can be signed with another team because they're not. They, he gonna make that 40 million this year. But after this year they, they, they, they, they moving on.

[Joe (Unc)]

They're moving on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. That is my partner and co host, Bingo Great former Pro bowler and an all pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and a seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, that's ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you for your support guys. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by Laportier head over to laportierconac.com it is a premium VSOP cognac the best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market compared against other cognacs you may have tried or looking to try and you'll see we have the best tasting smoothest cognac on the market. Please please drink responsibly and stay safe. The Dallas Maverick took down the LA Lakers. Cooper Flag became the first rookie rookie says Allen Iverson the post back to back 40 point games. Allen Iverson did it in 97, Cooper Flag did it in 2026. LeBron James had 30 points, 15 assists, 9 rebounds but it wasn't enough as they fall to the Dallas Mavericks by the score of 134 to 128. And congratulations to the UCLA Lady Bruins as they take down the Lady Gamecocks 7951 to win their very very first Women's National Championship. Lauren Betts is your most outstanding player again. Thank you guys for watching. I'm unk he's ocho, he's ISO. We're out tonight but we'll see you tomorrow manana.

[Joe (Unc)]

He's out.