Nightcap Hour 3: Troy Aikman speaks on the DOLPHINS + Q and Aaayyyyy

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 3 — Troy Aikman, Dolphins Insight, Q&A and Unfiltered Banter

Episode Date: April 7, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (with Joe ‘Ocho’ Ortega, ISO Joe Johnson, guest voices Daniel Jeremiah, Julian Edelman, and more)
Main Theme: An unfiltered, deep-dive discussion on Troy Aikman’s advisory role with the Miami Dolphins, NFL franchise dynamics, candid Q&A with fans, camaraderie, locker-room banter, and memorable personal stories.

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap on Club Shay Shay features Shannon Sharpe, Joe 'Ocho' Ortega, and ISO Joe Johnson. The main theme is NFL legend Troy Aikman’s work as a consultant for the Miami Dolphins and what that means for both the Dolphins and the Cowboys. The hosts explore franchise power dynamics, the impact of front office decisions, and what truly drives NFL team success. The latter half delivers candid Q&A, hilarious anecdotes, and characteristic jokes about everything from gym routines to bathroom etiquette, making this episode both insightful and wildly entertaining.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Troy Aikman’s Role with the Miami Dolphins

• [03:06] Daniel Jeremiah (reading Troy Aikman's comments):

  • Aikman is valued for his unique relationships and inside information in the league.
  • He doesn’t see his advisory role with the Dolphins as a conflict of interest, even though the Cowboys, his old team, haven’t tapped him similarly.
  • "I want to see [the Dolphins] do well because… my fingerprints are on it as well." (03:56)

• Cap-Strapped Dolphins & Roster Rebuild:

  • Dolphins are facing a tough season due to a “big hit” from letting Tua go and various cap complications.

2. NFL Franchise Dynamics: Scouting, Power, and Credit

• Front Office Influence vs. Coaching and Scouting:

  • Ocho questions the unique value Aikman brings vs. an established front office. Sharpe counters that media personalities like Aikman talk to coaches, GMs, and assistants year-round, giving them unusual league access and insights.
  • "Troy has access because he's doing these production meetings. He's talking to head coaches, assistants..." (07:32) – Sharpe

• Jets, Cowboys, and Dolphins: Leadership Styles Compared:

  • Discussion about Jerry Jones' need for credit and control, contrasting with owners like Robert Kraft and Clark Hunt, who focus on results rather than executive accolades.
  • "You don't realize how successful something can be as long as you don't care who gets the credit." (09:01) – Sharpe
  • Emphasis on how ownership interference can stifle a team regardless of front office/couch talent.

3. Roster Decisions, Cap Space, and Rebuilding Realities

• Dolphins’ Dead Cap Challenges:
  • Dolphins must absorb massive dead cap space due to recent personnel moves (Tua, Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Ramsey, etc.).
  • "They're gonna have to hit it out of the park… with their draft picks." (15:33) – Sharpe
  • Malik Willis named new QB (15:52)—but with a much weaker supporting cast compared to his stint in Green Bay—a realistic view on their prospects.

4. Q&A & Fan Interactions

Memorable/Notable Fan Questions

• Best Touchdown Called Back: (24:46)

  • Neither Sharpe nor Ocho can recall a memorable touchdown of their own that was called back, but ISO relates a brutal (and literal) "set off" foul: "I got in the paint, gave him a pump fake, he jumped, and when he came down, he hit the top of my head—had to get 8 stitches." (25:22)

• Family, Humility, and Staying Grounded: (38:08)

  • Sharpe, Ocho, and ISO all share that their families kept them grounded, no matter their career success.

• Mount Rushmore of Hometown Athletes: (41:32)

  • ISO: Scottie Pippen, Derek Fisher, Corliss Williamson, Sidney Moncrief (Little Rock)
  • Sharpe: Himself and Sterling Sharpe, Cam Newton, Dwight Howard (Atlanta)
  • Ocho: Antonio Brown, Andre Johnson, himself, Frank Gore (Liberty City, Miami)

5. Signature Banter: Locker Room and Life

• Bathroom Etiquette & Traveling Woes: (56:22–61:33)

  • In a celebrated, laugh-out-loud sequence, the trio discuss their refusal to go #2 in public bathrooms, elaborate on "the teardrop" of toilet water, and reveal some extreme strategies to avoid public restrooms.
    • "Anytime, I'd rather go in the woods." (57:21) – Sharpe
    • ISO drove 40 minutes home from his daughter's volleyball tournament just to use his own bathroom.

• Personal Grooming, Bodybuilding, and Cologne Fragrances: (67:00–70:12)

  • Fragrance tips: Tom Ford "Fabulous", Versace, Million Dollar. Sharpe hasn’t worn cologne since 1986, preferring shower gel and mouthwash.
    • "Last cologne I bought was Obsession by Calvin Klein… like 1986." (69:41) – Sharpe

• Bench Press Prowess:

  • Sharpe and Ocho talk about benching over 400 lbs well into their 50s but both now choose not to go heavy anymore, preferring Smith machines.

6. Show Origins and Growth

• Behind-the-Scenes on ‘Nightcap’ & Club Shay Shay: (48:00–54:40)

  • Initially intended as a 30-45 minute, three-times-a-week NFL recap, but quickly evolved due to fan demand for stories and non-football banter.
  • "Come for the sports, but stay for the stories." (49:13) – Sharpe

• Shannon on Leaving FOX, Starting ‘Nightcap’:

  • He kept the Club Shay Shay intellectual property by contract; started the new show with self-funding, Ocho on board almost immediately.

7. Favorite Moments & Athlete Tributes

• Most Underrated Teammates: (32:19)
  • Ocho: TJ Houshmandzadeh, “a huge reason for my success.”
  • ISO: Shawn Marion and Josh Smith, both “really that boy.”
  • Sharpe: Rod Smith, “undrafted free agent to all-time leading receiver in Broncos history.”
• Best Sporting Events Witnessed Live: (89:05)
  • Sharpe: Josh Hamilton’s Yankee Stadium Home Run Derby
  • ISO: Allen Iverson’s Game 1 performance (48 pts) vs Lakers, 2001 NBA Finals
• Athletes from Their Hometown Mount Rushmore: (41:32–43:27)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Exchanges

• On Owner Power vs. Team Success:
  • "You don't realize how successful something can be as long as you don't care who gets the credit... Jerry wants the credit." (09:01–09:41) – Sharpe
• On Executive Access:
  • "Troy has access because he's doing these production meetings... at the end of the day you have to have a ying and a yang." (07:32–08:30) – Sharpe
• On Rebuilding in the NFL:
  • "They got a hundred million dollars in dead cap money... Over the next couple years they're gonna have to hit it out of the park with their draft picks." (13:10–15:41) – Sharpe
• On Humility from Family:
  • ISO: “Even at the peak of my career, my family still called me ‘Lil Joe’ or ‘Peewee’." (41:14)
  • Sharpe: “My grandma would tell me go cut the grass—I'm like, 'Gotta pay for the house and cut the grass too?'” (40:07)
• On Locker Room Real Talk:
  • On avoiding public bathrooms: “Anytime I'd rather go in the woods.” (57:21) – Sharpe
  • On the infamous “teardrop”: “That toilet water catching you when your stuff fall in…I don't like that.” (58:13) – Joe 'Ocho' Ortega
  • On fragrances: “Last cologne I bought was Obsession by Calvin Klein…like 1986.” (69:41) – Sharpe
• On Show Evolution:
  • "The show was only supposed to be 30 minutes long… Ocho made me tell one story, and that was all she wrote.” (48:54) – Sharpe
  • "We started from scratch...300 people, 1000 people...then almost 100,000 in the chat." (50:42) – Sharpe
• On Relationship with Producers and Co-hosts:
  • "I told Ash if I ever do something on my own I want to take you with me. So she put her two weeks in and I was paying out of my pocket." (52:29) – Sharpe
  • On bringing Ocho on: “All you needed was five minutes. I ain't got time to be sitting in no business meeting...You want to do a show? Okay, I'm in.” (54:19) – Ortega
• Playful Banter & Live Show Camaraderie: (Throughout Q&A)
  • Running joke: “Make sure she use a thumb!” (92:01, sign-off joke)
  • "Hey, I need my bread, man. Hey, Joe, let me get that 500 at you, Joe." (82:03)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Troy Aikman & Dolphins Advisory Role: 03:06–08:05
• NFL GM/Ownership Talk, Franchise Success: 08:05–12:50
• Dolphins Cap Woes, Roster Challenges: 12:50–16:43
• Open Q&A, Fan Interactions: 21:24–43:27
• Show Origins, Growth, and Banter: 48:00–54:40
• Bench Press and Fitness Talk: 43:30–46:10
• Bathroom Stories & Travel Routines: 56:00–62:10
• Fragrance, Grooming, Personal Habits: 67:00–70:12
• Athlete Mount Rushmore: 41:32–43:27
• Favorite Sporting Events Live: 89:05–89:59
• Concluding Jokes and Farewells: 91:11–End

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Episode Takeaways

• Insightful football talk comes alive with the hosts’ unique access and candid observations—a true look behind the curtain of NFL decision-making, the real influence of owners and personnel, and the uphill battles teams face in cap hell.
• Camaraderie and unfiltered humor: The second half feels like being in the locker room with pros—raw, relatable, and fun, from bathroom stories to the confessions about family and staying humble.
• For fans new and old, the episode is a testament to why Nightcap works: a blend of unvarnished football wisdom and everyday laughs, making it as approachable as it is informative.

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“Come for the sports, but stay for the stories.” — Shannon Sharpe (49:13)

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Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Why?

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What's wrong? Nothing's wrong. You look like a guy running on three hours of sleep and vibes.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Okay?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I'm tired, kind of cranky and very thirsty.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Sat down with Clarence Hill Jr. And spoke on working with the Dolphins as a consultant in the off season. Let's take a listen. What Troy had to say.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't know. I. I think the Dolphins were wise in understanding my relationships around the league and knowing that I have information that they don't have or, or can't get. And I think they were smart in taking advantage of that, whether it was. Whether it was through me or through somebody else. The Cowboys have never elected to do that, at least with me. You know, maybe they have with others, but. But no, I don't. I don't feel there's a conflict. But, But I will say I'm pulling for the Dolphins and I know that because. Because now I have something at stake. And I think. I think they hired two really talented, wonderful people and I think that's going to prove its 26 is going to be a tough season because of the cap that took a big hit when

[Shannon Sharpe]

they, when they let two ago.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

But, you know, time will tell. But yeah, I'm pulling for him. I want to see him do well because I, I feel like my fingerprints are on it as well.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Well, the Cowboy linebacker.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gonna trade Jordan Brooks at Cowboy?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I like Jordan Brooks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's my guy. Clarence Hill Jr. I've known Clarence for a while. He's always at the Super Bowl. He used to be the beat writer for the Cowboys. I think he's kind of doing his own thing now, right? Isn't he? Or is he still. He's still with the Cowboys, but he got an opportunity to sit down with Troy, who's one of the great. One of the great players in Cowboys history.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe, what do you think about. And Ocho, you can chime in with this man, what you think about Troy, one of the great players in Cowboys history and Jerry allowed him to give intel to the Dolphins.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I mean, I, I don't understand. What kind of intel is he going to have that the organization and the resources that they have that they can't find out on their own? When it comes to. When it comes to picking players, when it comes to getting players, I mean, there's film study. You have scouts, you have GMS.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think it's more of GMs. I think it's more of GMs and coaches because he gets an opportunity to talk to these people. He ain't talking. He not in. He's not in production. Meeting 20, 19 weeks of the year. Yeah, Troy is. He's not Joy. Jerry not meeting with head coaches and general managers. Troy is.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, yeah, but how is that picking

[Shannon Sharpe]

up schemes and what they do and how they operate?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hold on, Ojo. So the Dolphins gave Aikman a job.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They say, look, we got a couple of. Probably a couple hundred thousand or million dollars to come in, look at. Assess what we have. Look at where you think we're weak, where we're strong, where we can get better. Who are some of the coaches? Who are some of the executives that you think would work well here in Miami?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, y' all know Jerry ain't studying that.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

He don't need you, you know, none of that matter. Huh? Hey, you could have Jesus and the twelve disciples in the goddamn Dolphins front office if you ain't got the goddamn product on the field.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But who picking the players? You don't think. You don't. You don't think the people in. You don't think the guy in Detroit did a good job of picking the players he traded for golf. He picked J. Mo. He picked Gibbs. He picked Amon RA. He picked Hutchinson. He picked all those guys. What about the guy in Chicago? Phenomenal polls, Brad Holmes, if I'm not mistaken, is the Detroit polls. Is it? So what? So what about these guys that the guy did in Chicago? Is that making a difference? Look at where they were before those guys took over, and look at where they are now. You think High Roseman is not making a difference?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, huge difference.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think Brett Veach, who's picking the guys in Kansas City?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

And I can ask you a question.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

So do you think that the answer to the Dolphins problem is getting the answers from Aikman? Aikman?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the thing is, is that they're looking for. Who do you think would be a fit, right? You see, the thing is, you can have a fit, but if Jerry go say, I want you to play this guy, or I want you to take that guy, but that guy might not fit the offensive scheme, he might not fit the defensive scheme, but Jerry likes him, then what do I do? And then if it doesn't work, then who gets blamed? Ocho. Just like the. Just like the Luca trade. Who gets blamed for the. The luca trade? Ocho.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Mr. Nico.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And. But who made that decision? Josh Dumont up top.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

This is why the Cowboys don't Have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, I think the thing is, is that Troy has access because he's doing these production meetings. He's talking to head coaches, he's talking to assistants, because sometimes it's obviously the head coach ain't leaving, but you're talking to a defensive coordinator, you're calling a linebacker coach. You're talking to this or that or you talking to front office people, and they're giving you intel. And he said, well, I think this guy would be a great fit for, for who you. For who you are, your personality. Yeah, I think this guy would be the. Because at the end of the day, Ocho, when we put this thing together.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I said, I think Ocho. Ocho. Why? Oh, I said, because he don't take himself serious, and he's the direct opposite of me. Yeah, I'm serious. And he barely take very little stuff serious, but he understands the game.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you got to have a pair. You got to have a match. I could have somebody the exact same as me, but I couldn't have somebody that the exact Ocho and somebody that's the exact Ocho. That's not going to work either.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you have to have a ying and a yang. You have to have a give, a pull and a push.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I agree.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry. Look, Jerry. Jerry wants to credit. This thing works, Jerry's gonna get all the credit. That's just the way it is. That's that a. And, and I'm a firm believer that you don't realize how successful something can be as long as you don't care who gets the credit. Yeah, Jerry wants to credit.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

That's why he's the GM and the owner.

[Shannon Sharpe]

GM, owner, VP.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, all I know is Mr. Kraft. Mr. Kraft ain't that Mr. Kraft, like, he's the owner. He, he ain't have a whole bunch of titles. But all I know is how many times he picked that trophy up. How many times did Clark Hunt pick that trophy up? How many times Jeff L. Picked that trophy up? Jerry ain't picked that trophy up in 30 years.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, you're not changing. You're not changing. I mean,

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

all right, not too much. Fell not too much. Not too much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the thing. As long as you don't care who gets the credit, you can be really, really good. But if you start thinking about you, because sometimes you undermine your own, your own self because you care. You worried about who getting the credit, right? I want to win.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, I get it. I, I, I see, I still don't Think obviously, even. Even though, you know Troy Aikman, obviously Super bowl winning quarterback, he does what he does. Superb analyst, you know, culling commentary when it comes to helping the Dolphins franchise and changing some of the things. And I. I just. I just don't. I don't see it. I don't see it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tell me what you don't see, Joe, and I can help you see what you don't see.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

No, nothing. Going to see. Because we're going to see when it's time to play. That regards to who you come in there. It's not going to change until you get the goddamn players. You have to be able. You got that? We haven't had the products in Damarino.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We haven't had the products. I don't know if you've had. I don't know if you've had a look and you hear this stuff coming out about, about McDaniels and guys possibly didn't respected him and how he talked to the players in X, Y and Z. There has to be a healthy combination. There has to be good players. But the players have to have a. A respect for a coach, Ocho. And it's gotta be that if the players don't respect the coach, they're gonna run them up. Go ahead.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Before. Before Mike McDaniels, who do we have?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The black guy that's in.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

That's a D.C. in Minnesota.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

He was respected. He was respected.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was. But the thing was, he didn't want the quarterback. That the owner overruled him.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

He what? Again, See, there. There's a problem. That's where the problem lies. You have someone that knows football already and understand what it takes to win. Listen, I don't think he's the answer for our organization going forward. So now the owner was the problem.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. My thing is, if you hire somebody to do a job, are you gonna let them do the job? If you hire somebody to do your roof, you gonna be out there telling what he should. How he should do it. Are you gonna let or you gonna let the both do it? O. Joe, Joe. You ask somebody to do a job in your house and you up there telling. Well, you should have did it. Right?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you telling him what to do, why are you paying him this money when you know what to do? Just do it yourself.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But like you said, Ocho, we'll see if they get the right pieces, if it's the right coach, if this the right general manager, if they could. They clearly didn't believe. They believed that they were bloated. They believe that their quarterback and some of the other pieces that they have, they weren't going to win, and they. And they went for it. Give them credit. Stephen Ross believes that. Look, let's go for it. I'm gonna sign Tyreek. I'm gonna sign Bradley Chubb. I'm gonna sign a lot of these guys. It didn't work out.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Now they starting from scratch, boy. Scratch. It's gonna be. It's gonna be a rough, what, one or two years?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Joe Aikna said that, though, because they

[Shannon Sharpe]

got all that dead cat money.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got Tyreek's money, they got Chubb's money. They got tools money. Did they trade Mika Fitzpatrick? They traded somebody. They got a lot. They got a lot of other money out there. So you got 100. You got a hundred million dollars in dead cap money, Ojo.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Your guppies. Your guppy's gonna.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yo, yo, yo. Hey, listen, listen. My. My dolphin. Your cowboys in the same boat, homie.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, no.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

We in the same boat.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

We are not in the same boat as the damn guppies. Don't do that, Joe.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

When the season ended, y' all was on the same couch we was on. What are you talking about?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, so you know. You know y' all starting over. Ocho, come on. Stop it now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

We got some promise over here, okay? Oh, no, don't do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't do that promise.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You've been trying to get our wide receiver for the. Since the season been going on.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hold on. You still got promise after 30 years, you still believe that?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, we got. We got a decent team. Oh, sure. We're gonna be all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

We just need a little help defensively.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yo, you have a decent team every year, Joe. Y' all say the same thing every year, Joe. You talk about delusion. This is part of it, Joe. You part of the problem.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Nah, nah, you're being naive now. You naive with them damn bangles. That's who naive.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

We better than y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

That's a damn lie.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

We better than y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Nah. Hell no.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Okay. We'll see this year.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

All right? We play out. We gonna play out this year.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I would hope not, Joe. I would hope. That's not what you want.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Well, I bet the house. I know we gonna run mud hole in y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All. Oh. Who.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Who gonna stop? Who gonna stop? Jamar.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Who gonna stop?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Team. The Cowboys are faced with approximately between 175 and 182 million in dead cap money, which is about. Which is about 58 to 60% of their total cap space. Tour Hill, Jaylen Waddle, where they still got him. And oh, I thought they. I thought they. They traded Jaylen Water to the Broncos.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So Tua Heel Waddle and Ramsey. So guys, they're not even on their team.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

And take their cap space and Tyreek Hill too, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. Tour, Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle and Jaylen Ramsey. Damn. That's crazy. The Most ever was 127 million in 2022. So they're over almost $60 million clear of that.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

56 million a dead cap space waddle is 26. Bradley Chubb is somewhere between 10.9 and 20. And also with Tyreek Hill and Jalen Ramsey.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So basically over the next couple of years, they're gonna have to build this thing. They're gonna have to hit it at the park, Ocho and Joe with their draft picks.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah. Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you in the dead. When you dead? When you got that kind of dick, you can't spend no money in free agency.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Who they got the quarterback this year?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got. They signed the guy from Green Bay.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Malik Willis.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Malik Willis.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, we got Malik Willis.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Who he got to throw to us?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Two. Two at will Washington. You know, some other guy. I mean just. I mean no disrespect, just, you know, some guys, some guys, you know, they decent. You know, it ain't no Justin Jefferson's, no Jamar Chases and I mean nothing like that. We. We have a good. A good core receivers. We still need a dog, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

You need. You need a dog. You. You look at what Malik Willis was able to do in Green Bay when Jordan Love went down and understand the success he had. But also look at the supporting Cass he had.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look at who he was doing it with.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Ex. Exactly. So don't think. You sign him and you bring him into the Dolphins repeat the success he had in Green Bay. But he ain't got the same supporting cast, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you watch ballroom dancing? That guy might be doing his thing, but look at that lady he doing it with. Hey, cuz, she doing all those moves he doing and she doing it back with in heels.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

So I can breathe. Why do you need to breathe? So I can think.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

If I can breathe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I can breathe, I can think. I can think. If I can think. If I can think, then I can win the beast. Rated R in futures Friday.

[Julian Edelman]

This is Julian Edelman from dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules all right, real quick. Take a look at yourself right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why?

[Julian Edelman]

What's wrong? Nothing's wrong. You look like a guy running on three hours of sleep and vibes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, yeah, I'm tired, kind of cranky, and very thirsty.

[Julian Edelman]

Congrats. Those are some of the potential signs of mild dehydration. And I bet your last bathroom break showed you another sign your body might be throwing you a penalty flag.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what's the play?

[Julian Edelman]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, take a look at me now. Liquid IV is officially part of my daily hydration routine. Pass the firecracker Popsicle flavor.

[Julian Edelman]

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[Lily Herrmann]

Ready for a different take on Formula one? Look no further than no Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herrmann, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Lewis Hamilton, Capricorn Sun, Cancer, Moon. Wouldn't you know it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Michael Schumacher is also a Capricorn.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Capricorn Sun, Cancer, Moon.

[Lily Herrmann]

The story of the sport's most consequential driver. Strike. We have one man who, upon hearing that he was going to be fired, freaked out and apparently climbed out the window of the bathroom and was Daniel Ricardo's illustrious F1 career a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both. He started getting all this attention and he maybe started to think, I'm bigger than this, I'm better. And plenty of other mishaps, scandals and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to no Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Green]

I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of the Fault in Our Stars and now I guess also as the co host of the Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, the Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World cup for US Soccer. Football is a story we've shared for over 30 years, since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. Very debatable. And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, its heartbreak, and above all, its beauty. Together we'll find out why. Of all the unimportant things football, soccer is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm Daniel Jeremiah.

[Julian Edelman]

And I'm Greg Rosenthal.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And this is 40s and free agents.

[Julian Edelman]

The games may be over, but the NFL never stops. This is my favorite part of the calendar.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, pro days, trades.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

This is where teams reshape their future.

[Julian Edelman]

This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money. On 40s and free agents. We break down every move that actually

[Daniel Jeremiah]

matters, from my draft evaluations, mock drafts

[Julian Edelman]

and team fits to my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts, and all the tough decisions included.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You got quarterbacks on the move.

[Julian Edelman]

We got teams rebuilding.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's hope season.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, absolutely. It's hope season. We'll tell you what's real, what's noise, and what it means for your favorite team.

[Julian Edelman]

Smart, analysis, real conversations every week.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe, before we go, we want to tell you about Nicola Jokic. He had a monster game again, 35 points, 14 rebounds, 13 assists.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Man, listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The season with his back to back triple double, only Russell Westbrook has been able to go back to back with triple doubles.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I'm telling about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. He will lead the league in rebounds and assists. I don't know if we've ever seen that kind of combination before.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

He got a chance. Do you think he got a chance to win MVP on Keep It Real?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Do you really?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do, but I think. I think. I think it's gonna be chat. I think it's gonna be. I think it's gonna be Chad, him and Wimby.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

As far as what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mvp? You mean Shay? I mean Shay. Not check. They.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Him and Wimby. Shay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Jokic And Shay Yoke and Wimby.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, before we get to the super chat, we got another five videos or five voicemails from our discord. Like it. Let's take a listen to number one. What up, Unc? Ocho ISO in the Nightcap family, I hope all y' all know good, healthy from Louisiana. You heard me. But I got a question for Unc, because I seen this YouTube, this clip on my YouTube shorts, you know, was on TV doing this thing. Man, I'm gonna say for 50 million, I'll go to hell. I just always wanted to ask, like, what was you talking about? And like, what the hell? What made you say that, bro? I just been geeked ever since. Like, it just been playing back in my head ever since. So I just don't want to ask you this. I think they were. We were talking about a quarterback. A quarterback. I forget who the quarterback was. And we were talking about he's about to get 50 million. And I like a 50. They told me, what does he want to go to such and such a place. I like 50 million. I'm going to hell. Yeah. Sam Darling going back to the Jets. That's what it was. Sam Darling going back to the Jets. You do. I mean, I think the thing is, Ocho, people take, like, everything that we say literally. It'll.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Literally.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The whole thing is a part of it. It's like, well, I would go pay for that. I mean, sometimes you just got to make stuff entertaining.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

They don't understand that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I mean, but they say all the time. I mean, when we talk about these salaries or I do this, or I'll be at training camp. I'll be at training camp right now. Or I'll play two games. Yeah, I play three games in a week. Yeah, but it is what it is. All right, here's our second one. Let's take a listen. What. What he said in that second one.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, Joe, shout out to you guys. Congrats on 2 million subscribers and watching you guys since you guys used to sing the Outros. Question for you guys. Uncle no, Joe, what was the best touchdown that got called back? And Joe, what was the foul? Don't going to set you off and still King Oo, King Oo, King Oo. Hey, somebody. Hey, somebody that know. Somebody that know. That's what I'm talking about.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? Get.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Get it right. King Oo. Get. Hey, but what. What he said the best celebration. What? Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That you got. What's the best touchdown that you had

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

called back oh, damn, that's a good one. Oh, that's a good one. Boy, I. I can't. I can't even remember any touchdown.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't either, Joe. I don't. I mean. Oo. And Joe, I don't know if I've had a touchdown, you know, I'm sure I have.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah. I don't. I don't think I've had a touchdown callback. I've had catches call back, but I. I can't think of a touchdown,

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

man. Hey, he talking about them. That foul that almost said set me off. I can't say it's a foul that almost set me off, but, boy, I was playing in Phoenix, and we came here, played Atlanta Hawks, and they had Theo Ratliff. Yeah, Theo Ratliff on.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, yeah, he was swole, wasn't he?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Swole.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, look, I got in the paint, Ocho, and I gave him a pump fake and he jumped. And when he came down, he. In the top of my head. I'm talking about blood just started coming down side of my head and my face. I had to go in the back, get like eight stitches, bro, at the top of my head.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, you high.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't swing on it, Joe?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Nah, I ain't swing on. On. Hell, I barely even know what the hell was going on. I'm talking about he elbow me. I'm. He had them sharp elbows.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, man.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Come in, man. What.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. You remember what you call him? Carl Malone did that to Zeke. Zeke came down the lane with a layup, put 44 stitches over his eye.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, 44.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Joe, you might have to watch my elbows when we play, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You too.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You too, little partner.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah. Yeah, you might well call me Ocho. Rattler.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Here's our third video.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Appreciate you, Nightcap. But, Unc, I'm still disappointed the way you treated that Josh Allen loss. Disappointed? Put your big boy pants on. You need to talk about that again for real?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Damn. What happened with Josh Allen, Joe Ocho,

[Shannon Sharpe]

we said he had five turnovers. When you're that guy, you can't turn the ball over five times. I said before he turned it over, Ocho, before he. He missed a throw, he had a guy wide open and he missed him

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

going to the left on the over route. On the over route, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Talked about ad nauseam about Josh Allen playing small at the end of the day. Yes, we know he hadn't had to a whole lot of turnovers in the play postseason. He's done a great job but not this game. I don't know what you want. What you want from me? What? What, guys? You want more from me? He didn't play well. We spoke. He was the reason that they lost. Yeah, but that wasn't good enough. So what you want me to say? They should cut him? Okay, Buffalo cut Josh Allen. Cut him. I mean, ain't no way this man. Ain't no way he should be your quarterback after the way he played. That's unacceptable. I just. I don't know what y' all want me to say. I mean. Oh, what you got for me, Ocho?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I mean, I. Listen, I. I don't know. I don't know exactly what he wants. Maybe. Maybe a delivery. Maybe the energy in which you criticize him. Maybe. Maybe they want. Maybe they want it a little better. I. I'm not sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not sure, because Josh Allen turnovers, and I know he hadn't turned. And I said, I know Josh hadn't had a whole lot of turnovers in the post. He had been really good about that. But not today. Yeah, I'm not talking about the previous games. I'm talking about today. He had five. He had five fumbles right before the half that led to three points, interceptions when they. Yeah, yeah, I know. James Cook had a fumble, but Josh Allen, you got the ball in your hands. The majority of the time, you cannot play like you played today. We said that.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And until he gets over that hump, we thought this was going to be his year and everybody else's year, because what, the guy that stood at the gate and kept everybody away?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

He was out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was out.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

He was hurt. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. Here's our fourth one.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, Unc.

[I]

Ocho. ISO. Congratulations on 2 million subscribers. I'm super happy for you guys. Glad to say I've been here since about January 2024, and I love this content, you guys. It's great. Can you guys please give my mom a shout out and some prayers? She's going through breast cancer right now. She's getting towards the end of it. Her name is Barbara. Please give her a shout out. Also shout out my dad, who's been her rock. He's going to be by her when she does her surgery and she can't lift her arms, so he'll be there the whole time. His name is Johnny. And then give a shout out to my sisters, D and Aisha, and my wife, Laura. They've been amazing helping out my mom. Give them awesome love, please. And also, please come back to California for your live show. We'll be excited to see you guys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Barbara F. Cancer stand strong. Johnny, your son said you've been the rock. You've been by her, and you're going to be by her while she goes through this. And through your love and support and your prayers, she's going to be able to get through this. To the, to the daughters, I think D. And Aisha, I think that's what he said their names were. And if I'm wrong, I apologize. But congratulations. But thank you guys for being there for your mom. This. I'm sure this means the word world to her, that you guys have been the rock and been the foundation because this is a very, a very troubling time and probably something that she's never had to go through before. But she's not going through this alone because she has somebody that says high looks low, but she also has somebody that's eye level, which is her family, her husband and her kids. And thanks to your prayers and the man above that's watching over her, Barbara is going to be just fine. Johnny, we can't thank you enough because, bro, I understand when family goes through things, and sometimes it's even harder on the family than when the person, the individual that's actually going through it. Because you know why? Because ain't nothing they can do. There's nothing worse than feeling helpless in a situation when your kids going through something. Oh, Jordy, the kid like, what's wrong? Why are you crazy crying? You don't know if it's a stomachache. You don't know if it's teething. You don't know. What. What is bothering you?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ojo, what's up? What.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

What happened?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I. I don't know. I think something messes that, but I think we still got the chat live miss. I mean, again, prayers. Miss Barbara, Johnny, and all family members, we will keep on our prayers. Hopefully every. Everything is. Is rectified in that situation. Cancer does suck, and I hope everything comes out good on that end.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, boy.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

What we do? What we do from here, Joe? Hey, let's. Let's look at our last video Nightcap, gang.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What it do? What it do?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Ocho ISO, we rocking with y' all for a long time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Keep rocking with y' all to the wheels fall off. If they fall off, I got a Mexican homeboy that'll put FOMO back on. Now we're gonna get back to pushing, baby. But anyway, my question for y' all real quick. Which one of y' all teammates do you Feel like is the most underrated who doesn't get talked about, but he was really that boy. I know y' all got plenty, but I just want y' all to name one for me. All right?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Holla at y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, that. That's a good one. Especially for me, obviously, who I played with in college and obviously the NFL. TJ Hus Mazada. I think TJ Husmanzada is a huge reason for my success, being that he was able to take some of the attention away from me some. Sometime during those games, he was really, really good, being able to manipulate routes, intermediate, short. Whether he played on the outside, whether he played on the inside. He was a master. He was a master at his craft and. And what he did. And I think most of my success come because of the attention that he took, you know, off of me at times. So that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

That. That would be my. My. My one teammate who. Who's. Who's underrated, that doesn't get the credit he deserves being that guy.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Man, I. I got two OO I a. I got two. Two unique guys who played, I would probably say, the same position, and that's Sean Marion.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

And Josh. Yeah, and Josh Smith. Two dudes who I was very close with. You know, Sean, early in my career, especially playing in Phoenix. He showed me the ropes, showed me how to be a pro. He got a lot of family in Arkansas, so he came to Arkansas a lot and spent. Me and him spent a lot of time together. Same with Josh Smith. He like a little brother to me, bro. Like, I know his family well, his pops, his moms. He's also came to Arkansas and hung out with me numerous of times. So, you know, we. I built a bond with those two cats, bro, from playing with them over the years, and, you know, just having a lot of fun. And, man, we have some. We have some special times together, bro.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Are you back?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm back.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

What's up? What. Where you been at, twin?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, God don't give you the patience that you ask for. He puts you in situations that requires patience.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

There you go.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, yeah, you know, unfortunately, we had a situation where it died. Nobody's at fault, at least as far as I can tell, because you best believe if they were at fault, this. This stuff would not have gone well.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah. Stuff happened, huh? Stuff happened, man. You know, it's cool.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah. Don't worry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I'm not mistaken, I think you. He asked your teammate that you think was the least.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

What, Underrated? He doesn't get the credit he deserves, but you know, he's underrated.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think Rod Smith.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I think foots don't get the credit that he deserve. You know, he played an era where you had, you know, you had Marvin Harrison and you had Reggie Wayne, you had Tory holster, you had to. And Randy Moss, but he led the league in receiving. He's an all pro, multiple pro bowls. He just played big for us. And to come in as an undrafted free agent.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Be on the practice squad. And then his first catch is a game winner over Daryl Green and. And to turn himself. He's the all time leading receiver in broncos history. I think now maybe I don't. No, I. I think. No, I don't think DT called him. I don't think DT caught him. I think he still has the most catches in. In broncos history, but I think I. I definitely think Rod Smith foots is the most underrated player that I played with. Jacob Motor. Much love nightcap fam. Just brought. Just thought about for a nightcap outside episode. Goat, Jeremy Wade Ocho are country boys. Ocho thinks he can swim with orcas. So why not hit the waters with the goat himself, you know? Jeremy Wade Ocho. Isn't he like some kind of. Doesn't he. What is he on like national geographic or something?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I'm not. I'm not sure. But when it comes to swimming, I'm like a dolphin out there.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I smoke you. I smoke you.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

And swimming, oh, God, here we go.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

But I already know you're gonna be like, oh, it's cause you tall. You ain't got Joe.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

You will not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Okay. They'd be fishing, they'd be catching. Okay. River monsters, you know. He'll be catching all them fish.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got teeth and all kind of stuff.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah. Hey, hey, Joe. I'm a swimmer now. Joe. Huh? You asked about me, Joe? Liberty city Charles Hadley championship use on swim team.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Huh?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

We made swim teams out there in the hood, Joe. Huh? Off the high dive. I could dive. I mean, whatever you want. Backflip. I mean, with somersault. What you want, Joe? I give you anything in the ocean, Joe, we're in. Joe. This ain't in the lake. It don't matter where it's at. We got gators in the lake. We take that chance. I'm out swimming gators, Joe. In the canal at opalaka Unc.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I see why you got him on here. I see why you got him on here with you. I see why you got him on here with you.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Talking About Joe. This is what I do, Joe. You talk about swimming. Joe, you can barely beat me in basketball. Talk about swimming. Stop playing with me, Joe. Don't play in my top like that. This what I do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boss man said, what's the time your family humbled you when you. Or when your success got high? Also? Was your grandfather a big man? What? Oh, Joe. Oo. What did your family do to humble you when you was at the peak of your success?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Man? Gonna lie. Okay. Oo. I've been a humble individual since I can remember, bro. I think it's. Cause, you know, that only child syndrome. I ain't, you know, never, never. My britches never got too big to where I disrespected, you know, anybody in the family. No matter what I had or didn't have, I always respect everybody, bro. I can't. I. I've never. I can't say I've never got humble, but I've never done that, you know, to be humble to where you. Hey, man, you need to chill out. Nah,

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

yeah, I. I was. I was never like that. I mean, obviously, those that know me personally, you, you, you, you. You would think the perception, being. Being controlled by the media, the way I was on the field was that was merely a character.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

The villain and the fun and the antics, that was just a character that I displayed on Sundays off the field. I'm nothing like that. I'm completely different. So there really was no need for me to actually be humbled. I think God humbled me in a sense where he wanted to slow down in other areas that had nothing to do with football.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Right, right.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

He did that and he sat my black ass down. Outside of that. As far as just. Just having to be humble when it comes to family, I was. I was always there. I was always there especially for them in times of need. I didn't allow anyone to take advantage of me. But you know where I saw. Where I saw fit and.

[I]

And.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

And need to give. I did do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I agree with both of you guys. I mean, for me, you know, coming. Y' all know how. How I speak about my grandmother. It wasn't nothing. I mean, she tell me to take the trash out to go cut the grass. I'm like, huh? Cut the grass? L. You need to go check. Hey, I cut the front. Libby, you gotta cut the back, man. I'm like, dang. Gotta pay for the house and cut the ground.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Uncle, I got my grandpa that ride lawnmower. Hey, yeah, he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He need.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

He ain't want no help.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I got. Hey, I brought my sister a John Deere. Yeah, that one rent out got a snapper. Yeah, I asked him, say, you want a zero turn? No, no, no, no, no. That's something. I've. I've always been. I mean, I know people think, you know, the way I talk on here, but when I'm around family, I'm. I'm even keel. I don't. I don't yell and scream. I mean, yeah, I have a. I have a. An abrasive personality, but when I'm around family, when I'm around people, I. This is. I'm different. When I'm around family, yeah, I'm. Because I'm the same. Cause I'm, you know, the guy. Mr. Joe. His sons, when they see me, they hadn't seen me in a long time. Joe. I'm at the peak of my career. I'm a sumo champ. They still call me Peewee. Hey, hey.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

My family called me Lil Joe because my dad named Joe, too. So they always called me Lick. Still to this day called me Little Joe. What you doing? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Most of my family called me Shane. Um, but, like, the people that I work for, when they see me, they still call me Pee Wee. Yeah, bro, that'll be 50 years ago.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. Sissy kid. What's up, Ocho? King ISO. And still.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Two million subs. Which four athletes from your hometown do you put on? Mount Rushmore, Glenville, Atlanta, Ocho, Miami. Joe Little Rock.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I go first. And mine ain't hard. You got Scottie Pippen. You got Derek Fisher. Oh, you got Corliss Williamson. Sidney Moncrief.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, I came over.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Who you got, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

My hometown. I think for me. I think me and my brother, we gotta occupy two of those spots.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You and your brother?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, we got two of those spots. Atlanta. Damn, Cam.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh,

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Boy, this a melting pot here. They got so much talent. Hell, yeah, it ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I go. You know what? I go. I go. Cam. And Dwight Howard.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Okay, I like. I like that. So. Liberty City. Antonio Brown. Andre Johnson. Oh, it's so many from down here, man. God damn. There's so many. Am I. Do I throw myself in there or no?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, yeah, you can.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, I'm throw myself in there, man. Bay county legend, Liberty City Zone. One more, one more. I mean, there's so many still playing now. Trying to think who else I mean. McGahey, shoe. Hey. Frank Gore.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tony O. Hey, fellas, got a workout question. I'm 5 10, weigh 208 I can, Mac, bench 315 unassisted. I've been working out since I was 13. I'm 42 now. What should I expect? When should I expect to start losing strength? How old are you now? Oh, you're 42. 42. 42, yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

If you keep going, you won't necessarily lose strength.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You just gotta be consistent. I think I started really like, man, man, you hit that. God dang. 150.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, they kick you in the ass, hit you in the head.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I ain't like, hey, I'm still getting stronger, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Up until I was 50. I mean, even. Hold on. I'm trying to think in 22. So 22. That was four years ago. 54. I still could bench about 450.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

455. 460.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, about me, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, man, I just got tired of being sore, man, I can't sleep on my shoulders. My shoulders aching.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said, man, that's absolutely. I shouldn't have to feel. I shouldn't have to feel like this. And I stopped benching heavy. I stopped playing because I used to be. I don't do nothing but Smith machine now.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because before I was, you know, I was doing free bench.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm done. I'm done with that. I might get back because they got a couple of guys out there talking reckless, talking about they. We can't beat them in nothing. I ain't gonna say no name. I think he on fourth and one, maybe third and three, or second and two. But if you want to go into that weight room, you need to come see me.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, hey, hey. I'm right there with you, too, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Right there with you, too. You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. Hey, you take Peggy, huh?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Nah, I want Cam.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. Okay,

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What me and Peggy go do what Peggy go do?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I. I don't know. But listen, I'm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I'm. I've never been this size before, Joe. I've never been this size. I'm not a big guy. I'm not a big guy. But I'm. I'm just saying right now, I'm. I'm. I'm at a point in life where I'm like, well, damn, I'm. I done filled out my body, you know? The only thing wrong with me is my shoulders. You know, they're not wide like I want them. So I'm, like, kind of aerodynamic. But everything else, I'm. I'm chiseling my arm. That got big.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you got. Put them caps on there. You got to start doing Some side laterals. You got to start doing that thing so you got. Hey, you hold it up, and then you come down.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

One, two, three.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah. Okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That thing off.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I'mma try that. I'mma try that. Yeah, I didn't. Got strong.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Didn't hit rear delts.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah. Hey, you know, I'm getting ready for the summer now.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. I'll be right there with you.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, I'm getting ready for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'll be right there with you. I'll be on somebody balcony.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'll be on somebody balcony.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Acting a fool.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Pierre Coffee said crazy. I have the same birthday as the great Sterling Sharp. Would mean a lot if you could give us a happy birthday shout out. I'm 28. Y' all really need y'. All. Y' all are really the uncs I never knew I needed. Yes. Yes. Happy birthday, Pierre. I appreciate that. Yeah, my brother today, man, he wouldn't do it. I was like, bro, you ain't doing nothing. You ain't on the golf course. He's like, nah, man, I'm just chilling. I'm just chilling. I say so. All right, bro. But, you know, Happy birthday, man. April 6th, man. I called him early this morning, wished him happy birthday. He was, like, excited. Like, man, you and Ocho and I saw y' all doing your thing, man. Y' all doing your thing, man.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said, y'. All. Y' all ain't gonna have the boy back on no more. I said, man, you know, you got to open invite anytime you want to come, bro. Come on, Titan Guy, what's up? Oh, what's up? Ocho and ISO? Can you guys wish my mom Erlene a happy birthday, guy? Earlene, happy birthday.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Happy birthday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I went to a high school with a. A lady named. Her name was Earlene Fate. Yeah, we were the same class.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

What if. Hey, you never know. Ask him if that's the last name.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I doubt it.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Happy birthday to you, Brandon Crow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sup, Nightcap? What's your favorite moment on the show in the last few years, and did you guys envision the show growing to what it is and what it has? We did envision, but just not this quick.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The original premise of the show. Ocho and I was gonna do a quick recap. The show was only supposed to be 30 minutes long, 45 on the. At the absolute max, but mainly 30 minutes, really. Ocho and I. Yeah. Take the three big game. The three. The game. The. The. The Sunday night game. So we do Sunday. Let's just say we Do Sundays. We're gonna take the Sunday night game. We're gonna take the big game on fox. We're gonna take the big game on cbs, and then we'll talk about another game that was important. We were going to decide, okay, Ocho, if we couldn't decide on one, we would take two games. So really, theoretically, we were only supposed to talk about four. Not four was the absolute max. Five with the absolute max, but mainly three to four games. Yeah. And then somehow Ocho. Ocho made me tell one story.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

That was all she wrote.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was. And Joey was that. It was. It was. It was downhill from there. It was downhill from there. And it's like, man, you know, you guys need to start. Stick to football and the people. Like, man, we need more stories. We need more stories. And so we current, according to term, come for the sports, but stay for the story. Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

And now over two hours, Three hours.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes, yes. But in the original. In the original format, the show was only supposed to be 30 minutes on the low end. The absolute max the show was supposed to be was 40 minutes, 45 minutes. It was. And yeah, to do the show three days a week. So the show was going to come on Mondays, Thursdays and Sundays. That was the only time the show was supposed to come on. So we were gonna follow NFL. We had no idea. Like, okay. Then we was like, what about when football go off? Like, okay, I guess. A. And so here we are. And, you know, we started talking track and field. Like, Ocho, like, man, I like track and field. His daughters run track. Yeah, I love track and field. It's my favorite sport to sit down and watch.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And we were able to parlay that. And we got young men and women coming on, talking about it. We got a ride. Come on. And we got. We had. So we got Vernon Norwood. We got the team that came on Shamir Little. And we had all those people coming on. And we have guys that broke record swimming. And so it's. It's turned into this. Yes. Ocho and I thought. We thought that it was going to take us about three years. I said, ocho, let's get. Let's give it three years. I think in three years we'll grow because we started from scratch.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, 100 people, 200 people. But Akron, JDUB, he was one of the first guys. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy was another one. Lainey Ray, she was another one. So we had a core group. I remember looking down, I was like, Damn, we got 300 people in the chat. Okay. We got 300 people, Ocho, and then that was a Sunday night. And then Monday, like Ocho, we got a thousand, we got 1500. And then it just grew and grew and grew. And I just remember having a conversation with Ocho as we started to build and, you know, we started to get 10,015 and 20,000. And in the postseason, we ended up almost having a hundred thousand. In the chat, I said, you know, we're not going to be the only ones in this space anymore, right? He like I said, nah, I said people, because we were the only ones in this space. Nobody else did this at night, at the game, on. During the day. Yeah, that's why we did it at night. And we do have a lot of other people in the space. And congratulations. But this is what. This is what Ocho and I, when we sat down and had a conversation, I say, I think it's going to take us about three years, but I think we can be good at it.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, I got a question.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, yes.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

When you left Fox, you. You already knew you wanted to do Nightcap. You already know the name Nightcap and all that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope. When I left, the only thing that I was able to leave with when I left Nightcap was Club Shae Shay, because I had that wrote into my contract. Because if I didn't have that written to my contract, Fox would have got to keep Club Shay Shay. Even if I. Even if they let me now, I would have had to share the revenue with them. So I'd had to do everything and they would got to share the revenue. But it was written in my contract. I got all intellectual properties of Club Shae Shade, the image, everything, the catalog. That was before that. I got that.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Talking to people, YouTube, rewards, frequency. The. The only thing is, I could only do Club Shay Shay once a week. So we had to come up with another thing. Now, mind you, I left Fox. Ash was still at Fox. I had told Ash, I said, ash, if I ever do something on my own, I want to take you with me. Yeah, she gung ho. She don't know. But okay, I'll go. So what happened at Fox? And I leave. So she called me, say, what are you doing? I said, I don't know. I said, I just know that, hey, I would like for you to come with me. She's like, okay. I said, I don't know what I'm gonna do, but I want you to come with me. She says, okay. She put her two weeks in and I had to. I was paying out of my pocket. I have no job. The next thing you know, I get picked up by espn. She's gonna be my producer. They're like, we got. I said, no, I got my own producer.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then cj, I said, cj, look, bro, Club Shay is not gonna work without you. I say, you. And I started this thing in 2020. He's like, okay. So I started paying him out my pocket. So that's how it happened, Joe. But no, there was no nightcap when we started. We didn't think of nightcap. Didn't come to be until, like, what, like, August? Like, damn near September. We lost the first week of September. And it happened. I think I talked. I think Ocho and I got together, like, two weeks before the initial launch. It wasn't gonna be no nightcap. Cause I didn't have no gas. I have no host. I didn't have no calls.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. I went to la and he pitched me the idea.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I said, yeah, I'm good. Okay, let's go. That's it. Hey. He told, hey, all you needed was five minutes. I ain't got time to be sitting in no business meeting, you know, going over logistics and all that. You want to do a show? Okay, I'm in. That's it. I went outside.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what he said. I was like, well, you already know the idea. He's like, oh, if you do it, I know it's gonna be successful, so

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

we gonna be good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that was. That was it. And so once we got Ocho. Once I got Ocho, I had a producer in Ash. Boom. And the rest is, as they say, history. That's. That's. That's really. We basically put this show together in two weeks. Now, we've evolved. We got producers, we got graphics, we got editors. We have all these things that's housed up under this. But in the beginning, it was just ash, and, you know, we talking about the games, and Ocho and I was doing what we did. Jose Jorge Castillo up for 5 million cash. Would you rather go number two and use a porta potty? Lord have mercy. Damn. Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You'll do it for 5 million cash.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Wait. To do what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go in the porta Potty?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Take a deuce in a porta Potty.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you'll do it for. For 200.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I do that. If I got to go, I'm doing that for free.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

In the Porter Potty.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Joe. N. N. You know, hey, Joe, you don't.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

You don't sit. You don't sit on it, Joe. You got to squat, Joe. Like, you know, you got to squat

[Shannon Sharpe]

like this, man, my knees. I got to sit all the way down.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, you can't do that, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They have to pry me up out of there.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oo, okay, I got you. I got you, Joe. I got you. Well, hold on. You just. You got. You got to sit there. You ain't got to squat down. Just kneel a little bit. That's it.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Well, please, for 5 million.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I'm have to go to use the porta potty. Yeah, I've. I've never. I've never actually sat down on one. I've never had to do number two in a porta potty.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, normally you just got a pp, that's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, they. They just. They just smell horrific. They just terrible.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just kind of tell. I be. I mean, you know, when you go to the airport bathroom and all, and all the urinals are taken and you go to one of the ones that you sit down and somebody ain't even. I said, God damn, y' all can't even flush the toy. I said, y' all buy some nasty mofos. Hey, I said, man, forget that. I can't. I can't. I just wait.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

That's why I don't like eating when I travel, because, boy, that's the last thing I want to do is have to use that bathroom in the airport.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, I'm very particular what I eat. I don't really. I don't deal with no fruit. Boy, fruit go through me jokes.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, ain't nothing. Ain't nothing worse. I mean, I'm assuming y' all don't do number two in public, but ain't nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, no.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, you don't? What about you, Joe? Any.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Anytime I'd rather go in the woods.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Ocho, let me tell you something. My daughter had a volleyball game a couple weeks ago.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yes, sir.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

And, boy, that deuce jumped down on me. Yeah, I'm talking about. Ocho. We 35, 40 minutes away from the house, ojo. Yeah, but it was a tournament, so she had, like, three games.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, You. You stuck.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Well, I drove home. Yeah, y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All. So you drove all the way home instead of home? Thank you, Joe. See, y', all now. Y' all ain't. Now, I ain't the only crazy one. Thank you, Joe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I drove home.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, what's something wrong with y', all, man? Now, the only problem I had, it happened every blue moon now. Every blue moon. So What I got to do is, most of the time, if you squat over the toilet, sometime when it come out and it hit the water, it's up and hit you in the ass again. I don't like. I call that the teardrop. I don't. I don't like the teardrop, you know, so that's one of the worst things about using the bathroom in public is that water. You know, that. That toilet water catching you when.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

When your stuff fall in the. I don't like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, I've been dropping. Joe, I. Joe and Ocho. I ain't never told this before. I've been driving home from Atlanta, going to Glenville, so, you know, you own 16. Yeah, Joe, I done pulled side the road, put the hazard on all my cars. I got toilet paper in there with me. I got. I got a roll of toilet paper. Damn.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I put. Put the hazards on poolside roads and went in the woods.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Get out of here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I swear to God.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, listen, I'm telling you, I got to be comfortable, boy, when I drop that deuce now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hey, that's how I am. I take all my clothes off. Yeah. I don't want nothing around my ankles. I take all I need to be. I need to be.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hell, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey. Cause she. Hey.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Cause sometimes you might have to hop right in the shower after that joint.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, but y'. All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all. Let me ask you this. Joe, when you go to the hotel, when you just get to the hotel, do you get in the bed or do you take a shower? What you mean, when you go to a hotel? You go to a hotel. Let you. You just got off the plane. You travel. You get to your hotel.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I gotta get that flight up off me. I gotta get that flight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. This nasty N word right here. Go in the bed. He don't take no shower.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I'm going. I'm going right to sleep. I'm going right to sleep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I got. Get that flight off me.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I'm going right to sleep. I don't understand. Hey, listen, you washing every goddamn skin follicle off you. That ain't healthy. No, that ain't healthy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you, Joe. Thank you. Nah, thank you.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I'm going to bed. Hey, Joe, I take me a shower in the morning.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Ocho, you take a deuce on the plane.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely. In the little small joint. Yeah.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, if. If circumstances. If it comes to that, Joe, I'm using the bathroom anyway. My homeboy house and my Girl house.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no, no, no. You're not doing. No, no, no. Don't nobody take no. Don't nobody do no deuces with me.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah. Hey, Joe. I don't care where I'm at, Joe boy. I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get it in. I don't. Yeah, I'm not gonna sit down now. I ain't gonna sit down. I'mma squat. I got a good squat game.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You can lace the toilet. You don't lace the toilet with tissue.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Tissue. No, I ain't got time. I ain't got time for that, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I'm gonna just squat. I'm gonna just squat over it. I ain't gonna touch it. I ain't gonna touch it. I. I what I do hate. I hate the backsplash. I call this. I call the backsplash the teardrop.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Well, ain't no way.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah. You know that. That water.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't do it. Look, I had a guest. I had a guest house when I was in la.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I had somebody over, I was like, I'm gonna. Yeah.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I ain't got time to be doing all that, man. Yo, talk about. He drove 30, 45 minutes.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I promise you, the water on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't do nothing. I cut the water. Even if I'm going to pee, I cut the water on. I don't want nobody hear me peeing. I don't want to hear nobody peeing.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nasty. Yeah. 30, 40 minutes.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

O. Joe.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Y', all, thank you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. I've driven all the way home from the gym, too, Joe. Yeah, absolutely.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Y' all tell my stomach hurting and everything. That thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Thank you, Joe. Thank you.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Y. Y', all, this is why I rock.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Which I knew it was something I said. Something about Joe.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah. Yeah. Y' all ain't living, y', all, but y' all ain't living, man.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Play, you know, at them volleyball game, man, Kids running around, they in and out the bathroom. Come on, man.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Joe, the stall ain't open. You close the door. Yeah. Hey, and listen, Joe, you know what? You could do this. What happened?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Let's say you're at the volleyball game, right? You know, it's a lot of kids. There's a lot of traffic going in and out the bathroom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I really don't want nobody to see me. Take your pan down to your ankles, Right? You hear me? And just inside, sit on the toilet. Dress your toilet up right. So can't nobody see, huh?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Keep your feet up like this. No.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, No, I gotta be comfortable. Oh, I gotta be comfortable.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

They can't see you in the stall, Joe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

How can you take a deuce like that with your leg high? Stuff like that, man, I need to be comfortable, bro.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I'm sorry, but Joe is no different than when she. When she eats. When she eats.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no,

[Shannon Sharpe]

no, no, no, no. Joe like me. That's Joe me. And that's how I am because I eat healthy. So normally I have a pile. I have a.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You hide your leg up like that. When she go down,

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Joe, she eat your ass, Joe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

No, I don't do all that. No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, joe. Hey, o. Joe did what me and joe part ways at. I gotta separate from you, Joe.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, listen, if you're not comfortable with your legs up, or you could bend over and. And you just open them things up for that way. Joe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Why are we speaking?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. Now, what happened? I was. I was side with you. You talking about like you getting waxed.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hold on, listen.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

What you talk about a wax?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, that's how you acting.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

No, I ain't talking about no wax.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

He saying, hey, look, I got a homeboy. Cause he like that type of stuff, too. I said, man, so how you doing? You just. You just heist your leg up in

[Shannon Sharpe]

the air like that when she come?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, that man said he do just what OO just did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

He turned. He turned around, bend over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, Joe. I mean, me and Joe. So I. I with Joe 95% of the time. You got him on your side.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, there we go. That's what I'm talking about, Unc. That's what I'm talking about. Hey, Joe. We gonna get you there, Joe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

No, no, no, y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, y' all let somebody go in your dookie.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Shoot. Yeah. Hey, hey, you ain't never had no colonoscopy,

[Shannon Sharpe]

huh?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

You ain't never had no colonized.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I haven't. I'm.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey. And I'm in my mid-40s. I need to go get one, but I ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta go to get one, Joe.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, hold on, Joe. Before you get one, let. Before you get one. Hey, hey, woman, you know, have a practice. Have a practice.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Lay on your belly, Joe. Just. You gotta relax.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gotta breathe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

We do. Wait, wait. We freaking love over here. We don't need.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Joe, don't. Don't be scared, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tell.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Tell her. Tell her. Use a thumb. Tell her.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Use a thumb.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no. Come on.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, come on, Joe. Come on, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, use the thumb just like this here, Joe. They got you just like that.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

What wrong with y', all, man?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

You ain't living, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on. They got you just like that. That right there, joker, you gonna be. Hey, you gonna try to get away, Joe? Hey. Because you're locked in. She put her thumb in his booty and everything. I mean.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I'm joking, Joe. I'm trying to get you ready, Joe. I'm trying to get you ready for

[Shannon Sharpe]

the colonocca p. Good o, Joe.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, Joe. Hey, all you. Hey, Joe. They call the Spread Eagle just Spread Eagle, man. Just.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

No, sir.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, cover your eyes like this, Joe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

No, sir. I'm sorry. Oh, y' all got me on this one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all got me on this one. Hey. Hey, Joe. You think I've been in the military? I'll be on my head. I'll be crawling like this. I'll be trying to get away. Try to get away, Joe. Try to get away. Hey. Oh, man. ISO. Ocho. ISO. Give your boy a shout out. I just finished my last class. We're receiving my master's degree in Information technology. If y' all free, come celebrate with your boy. May 14th in Maryland. University of Maryland, GC. I don't know what that is. Hey, Bear Gang, man. Congratulations, bro. That's a huge, huge accomplishment, bro. Congrats, Information Technology.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Congrats, congrats, congrats.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Congratulations, bro. We're proud of you here at Nightcap. Ron, for me, can we get Lil Boosie on the show for the playoffs? ISO, what's your top three fragrances? Nightcap Outside. Should go Mud riding with a. With a four wheeler, man.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Y' all ever smelt that? Tom Ford. Fabulous.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

What's that cologne?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

That's what you're talking about, ain't it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? Yes, yes.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

It's Tom Ford. Got a fragrance. It's called Fabulous.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I got it. It's good. It's nice. Joe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

What? She won't. Hey, she won't stay off you, Ocho.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Damn. Let me. Okay, okay. Tom Ford. Let me Google. Let me Google this. Let me see how much it is first, because if it's too much, don't worry about.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Come in a black bottle. Another one is. Another one is. It's called Million Dollar. I don't know if you ever heard of that.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, Million Dollar worth of game. Not the gold bottle. And the gold bottle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I Know you talk about.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

That's a good one. One more.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

God damn, Joe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

What?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

The Damn bottle cost $500, man.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You asked me for the fragrance, bro. It's five Ojo. I promise you.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Damn. It's the tr. Look, that's the travel ounce, too. 3.4 ounces. 500, man. Man,

[Shannon Sharpe]

hell no, man, look here, man. If I were to work with cologne, somebody go slap fire out of me because I ain't wore cologne. I ain't Wore Cologne since 86.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

What you use oils on?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it. Just shower gel.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, okay. Okay. Okay.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, yeah, Yeah. I like a little smell. Good. Y.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You smell like mouthwash. That's what. That's what the ladies at. At Fox told me. They say when people ask about. Man, what. What does Shannon Sharp smell like? Mouthwash. Hey, hey.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Cause that probably. That probably a pet pee of yours. Bad breath, ain't it, boy?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, well, old children talk me out of it. I used to brush my teeth about ten times a day. I'm down to about six.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, that's enough. Six is enough. Ten. I mean, that's. That's. That's just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yo, I got me a big old bottle. I got me a big old bottle of Listerine. About this big.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

You get it. You get it from Costco, huh? Sam's?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I'm saying. I'm saying you talking to somebody else and they got bad breath. Boy, that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man. I'm like, is that me or you?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, That's a turn off, boy. Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I. Somebody gave me. I. I mean, normally when I get cologne, I don't. I don't do cologne. So Bucky got a bunch of cologne. Like I said, I haven't. I. The last cologne that I bought was Obsession by Calvin Klein.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Damn. What year was that, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like 80.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Obsession was the. The burgundy bottle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, it was a clear bottle. See, if Calvin Klein still make Obsession.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I. I could have swore. I could have swore it was burgundy. Like. Like a.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, one more. Versace. Versace. It come in a. Because they got so many. They got one in like a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like a.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

It's like a blue. It's like a blue bottle. Five. Five.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That Creed. I guess Creed is a very popular.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

They got too many, though, huh?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Okay, dude, they got a lot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

You go. You go look to buy creed. They got 500 different goddamn fragrances. I'm like, what the hell?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That joker had to get Lil Boosie to come on Nightcap.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, yeah. I'll probably see him at a house game here. Recently, he know. He always at the house game.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, when you going to the game, Joe?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I'm probably gonna go to one of these ones coming up. Ocho. Unc, let me know if you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

If you plan on being around anything like that. I make sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I definitely will.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I'll make sure we got our feet on the wood. You know, we'll be.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, look. Listen, listen, listen, listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who was that?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Who was that?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, no, no, no, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, TSA ain't no struggles right now, so I'm gonna come. Hey, I got my. Hey, Joe, hear me. I got. I got my old money. Joe, just. Just let your boy come on down there with you, baby.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Got a nice little bank.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Roll over that on the man.5900 so I can break. So, Joe. Me and Joe have something to throw when we go see them 70 year olds.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Look, look, 30, 000. Real quick. We use. We can use the Magic City.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Damn, that man just throwing money out there in your face. Okay?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. You notice that?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

That's crazy.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Look, quick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Oh, oh, oh. Joe owe you 500. Cause you had Michigan.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, hey, who.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait, We.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

We ain't bet. He ain't want to.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, we did bet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What we bet.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

We bet 500.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

We bet at 500.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, you know, we bet 500.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I gotta see the footage, Unc. Run the footage back. I don't even remember that.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, hey, run me my money. You gonna catch these hands. I know that.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, who over there snitching, too? Somebody over there snitching.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who over there snitching?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

First of all, Ocho, you owe me. Cause you owe me 11 8. So take. Just take 500 off that. Joe, you good? You over 113 now.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, listen, I need my bread, man. Hey, Joe, let me get that 500 at you, Joe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

All right, I got you.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bet. Steve Barton. Just want to give you guys a shout out for my brother Nate, the biggest Michigan fan ever. Tonight is. Tonight is your night. Congrats on the win. Yep. U m. You guys are celebrating. Daryl Nickers. I found a place in Atlanta where I had a 24 ounce wagyu for $164. What are you guys, top three favorite country music singers? Who are you guys top three Charlie Pride songs?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Well, I don't. I know Garth Brooks. That's about it. I ain't gonna lie to y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All. Well, I met. I met Tim McGraw. I met Tim McGraw in a. In a hotel in A hotel, working out, and walked up to him. I said, hey, my name is Shannon Sharp. He says, I know who you are. He says, I'm Tim. I said, I know who you are also. So we struck up a conversation, had a great time. Oh, Darius Rucker.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, yeah, I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know Fred.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, I know Darius. But my. My. Probably one of my favorites was probably Chris Stapleton. When he made the song Tennessee Tennessee Whiskey, I was there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I like that song.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I was there when he wrote the lyrics. I. I had somewhat of a hand in creating and. And being a part of that song. So, I mean, that's. That's pretty much it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's it. I don't really. I don't really, you know, a whole lot of no country

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

jelly roll.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I don't. I don't really listen here. Okay? I take Dolly Parton because I do know Dolly. I'll take Dolly. Hey, ts Car Wash Detail Service. Yogic mvp. Easy ISO. How was it guarding Kobe? How was being Coach Ocho, who's the tallest player in your era?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Man, Kobe was a tough guard, you know, Hard to guard anybody in the NBA when they got free range and can shoot when they won't do what they want. You know what I mean? And they do it at a high level too, like. Cause you can't relax on defense. You know what I mean? And a guy like Kobe, who obviously could shoot the three, could post up, shoot the midi, get to the rack, dunk on you. Like, he has so much in his bag, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, he kept you on your heels.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, I tell you one thing. The night before, boy, you got a good night rest. Cause he gonna try to embarrass you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, we forgot about Kenny Rogers.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings. One of my favorite shows growing up was Hee Haw, Hee Haw. Buck Owens, Roy Clark. They got you just like that.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

What's wrong with y man?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, Joe. You ain't living, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on, Joe. They got you just like that. That right there, Joe. Cuz you gonna be. Hey, you gonna try to get away, Joe? Hey, they got you locked in o. Talking about she put her thumb in his booty and everything. I mean, I'm.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I'm out, Joe. I'm trying to get you ready, Joe. I'm trying to get you ready for the colonoscopy.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

No, I'm good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, Joe. Hey. Oh, hey, Joe. They call it a spreading. Just spread eagle, man. Just.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

No, sir.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, cover your eyes like this, Joe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

No, sir. I'm sorry. Oh, y' all got me on this one. Y' all got me on this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, Joe. You think I've been in the military? I'll be on my head, I'll be crawling like this. I be trying to get away, Try to get away, Try to get away. Hey, Man. ISO, Ocho. ISO, Give your boy a shout out. I just finished my last class. We're receiving my master's degree in Information Technology. If y' all free, come celebrate with your boy. May 14th in Maryland. University of Maryland, GC. I don't know what that is. Hey, Bear Gang, man. Congratulations, bro. That's a huge, huge accomplishment, bro. Congrats, Information Technology.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Congrats, congrats, congrats.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Congratulations, bro. We're proud of you here at Nightcap. Ron, for me, can we get Lil Boosie on the show for the playoffs? ISO, what's your top three fragrances? Nightcap Outside should go mud riding with a. With a four wheeler, man.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Y' all ever smelt that? Tom Ford Fabulous.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

What's that cologne?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

That's what you're talking about, ain't it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? Yes. Yes.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Tom Ford got a fragrance. It's called Fabulous.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I got it. It's good. It's nice. Joe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

What? She won't. Hey, she won't stay off you, Ocho.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Damn. Let me. Okay, okay. Tom Ford. Let me go. Let me Google this. Let me see how much it is first. Because if it's too much, don't worry about it.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

It's. It come in a black bottle. Another one is. Another one is. It's called Million Dollar. I don't know if you ever heard of that.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, Million Dollar worth of game. Not the Gold Bottle. And the Gold Bottle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I know you talk about.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

That's a good one. One more.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

God damn, Joe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

What?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

The Damn bottle cost $500, man.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You asked me for the fragrance, bro. It's 5O, Joe. I promise you.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Damn. This the tra. Look. That's the travel ounce, too. 3.4 ounces. $500, man. Hell no, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look here, man. If I were to work with cologne, somebody gonna slap fire to me because I ain't wore cologne. I ain't Wore Cologne since 86.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

What you use oils on?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it. Just shower gel.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah. Okay, okay, okay.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I like a little. Smell good?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You smell like mouthwash. That's what. That's what the ladies at. At Fox told me. They said when people asked about. Man, what is. What does Shannon Sharp smell like Mouthwash. Hey, hey.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Cause that probably. That probably A pet pee of yours. Bad breath, ain't it, boy?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I. Well, old children talk me out of it. I used to brush my teeth about ten times a day. I'm down about six.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, that's enough. Six is enough. Ten. I mean, that's. That's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yo, I got me a big old bottle. I got me a big old bottle of Listerine. About this big.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

You get it. You get it from Costco, huh? Sam's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I'm saying. I'm saying you talking to somebody else and they got bad breath, boy, that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man. I'm like, is that me or you?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, that's a turn off, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I. Somebody gave me. I. I mean, normally when I get cologne, I don't. I don't do cologne. So. Bucky got a bunch of cologne. Like I said, I haven't. The last cologne that I bought was Obsession by Calvin Klein.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Damn. What year was that, huh? Hey, Obsession was the. The burgundy bottle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, it was a clear bottle. See, if Calvin Klein still make Obsession.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I. I could have swore. I could have swore it was burgundy. Like. Like.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, hey, one more Versace. Versace. It come in a. Because they got so many. They got one in like a. Like a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's like a blue.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

It's like a blue bottle. Five. Five.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That Creed. I guess Creed is a very popular.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

They got too many, though, huh?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Okay, dude, they got a lot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

You go. You go look to buy creed. They got 500 different goddamn fragrance. And I'm like, what the hell?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That joker have to get Lil Boosie to come on Nightcap?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, I probably see him at a house game here recently. He. You know, he always at the house game.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, when you going to the game, Joe?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I'm probably gonna go to one of these ones coming up. Ocho, Unc. Let me know if you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

If you plan on being around anything like that. I make sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I definitely will.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I'll make sure we got our feet on the wood, you know, we'll be good.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, look. Listen, listen, listen, listen.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Who is that?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, no, no, no, no. Look, stay. Tsa. Ain't no struggles right now, so I'm gonna come. Hey, I got my. Hey, Joe, hear me? I got. I got my old money. Joe, just. Just let your boy come on down there with you, baby.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

You got a nice little bank roll over there on the man.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Quick little 30.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My 5900 so I can break. So, Joe, me and Joe have something to throw when we go see them 70 year olds.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Look, look. 30,000 real quick. We use. We can use the Magic City.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Damn, that man just throwing money out there in your face.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. You notice that?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Oh, oh, oh, Joe owe you 500. Cause you had Michigan.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, hey, who.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait, we ain't.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

We ain't bet. He ain't. Wanna bet?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

We did bet what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We bet.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

We bet 500.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

We bet at 500.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, you know, we bet 500.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I gotta see the footage.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Unc.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Run the footage back. I don't even remember that.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, run me my money. You're gonna catch these hands. I know that.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, go over there snitching too. Somebody over there.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

First of all, Ocho, you owe me. Cause you owe me 11 8. So take. Just take 500 off that. Joe, you good? You owe me 113 now.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, listen, I. I need my bread now. Hey, Joe, let me get that 500 at you, Joe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

All right, I got you.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

All right, Bet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steve, Bart. Just want to give you guys a shout out for my brother Nate, the biggest Michigan fan ever. Tonight is. Tonight is your night. Congrats on the win. Yep. Um, you guys are celebrating. Daryl Nickards. I found a place in Atlanta where I had a 24 ounce wagyu for $164. What are you guys top three favorite country music singers? Who are you guys top three Charlie Pride songs.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Well, I don't. I know Garth Brooks. That's about it. I ain't gonna lie to y'.

[John Green]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I met. I met Tim McGraw. I met Tim McGraw in a. In a hotel. In a hotel, working out. And walked up to him. I said, hey, my name is Shannon Sharp. He says, I know who you are. He says, I'm Tim. I said, I know who you are also. So we struck up a conversation, had a great time. Oh, Darius Rucker.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Oh, yeah, I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know. Friends.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah, I know Darius. But my. Probably one of my favorites was probably Chris Stapleton when he made the song Tennessee Tennessee Whiskey. I was there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I like that. I was.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I was there when he wrote the lyrics. I. I had somewhat of a hand in creating and. And being a part of that song. So, I mean, that's. That's pretty much it.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah, that's it. I don't really.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't really, you know, a whole lot of, you know, country singing, country

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

jelly roll.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I don't. I don't really listen here. Okay. I take Dolly Parton because I do know Dolly. I'll take Dolly Hey, TS Car was detail service. Jokic, mvp. Easy ISO. How was it guarding Kobe? How was being Coach Ocho, who's the tallest player in your era?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Man, Kobe was a tough guard. You know, it's. It's hard to guard anybody in the NBA when they got free range and can shoot when they won't do what they want, you know what I mean? And they do it at a high level too, like. Cause you can't relax on defense. You know what I mean? And a guy like Kobe, who obviously could shoot the three, could post up, shoot the midi, get to the rack, dunk on you like he, he. He has so much in his bag, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He kept you on your heels. You.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Hey, I tell you one thing. The night before, boy, you got a good night rest. Cause he gonna try to embarrass you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, we forgot about Kenny Rogers.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings. My. One of my favorite shows growing up was Hee Haw.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeehaw.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Buck Owens, Roy Clark, Ben Coates. Ben was great. I've known Ben a long time. I met Ben in college. I was a year. I'm a year older than being. So my sophomore year, Ben would have been. Well, my freshman year. So the end of my freshman year, they. They recruiting. Being the only guy that I've ever. That I've ever shown around campus, you know, did anything. Told him what it's like. So now I know they're gonna move me to tight end because the tight end at the time, he's gonna flunk out. We know that. Coach Davis already informed me, say, hey, son, I want you to go out here, do your thing, wide receiver. But probably we're going to end up moving you to tight end if we can't find anybody. If we can't get anybody out of high school. I said, okay, coach, cool. No problem. I had played tight end my senior year in high school, so I had played tight end before it was all state tight end, so no problem. So I'm walking around being. I was like. I said, what? You know, because at the time, I didn't know what position he played. He like, I'm a tight end. I said, really? I said, okay, that's good. I said, what you trying to do? He said, man, I'm. I want to go somewhere I can start. I said, don't come to Savannah State. I said, they moving me to tight end and you can't beat me out. He went to Livingston. Ask him, y', all, hey, as big. I told him, I said, if you want to start, don't come to Savannah State because you can't beat me out. He went to Livingston and we both end up in elite. He went to five promos, I went to eight. We was on the, the Pro bowl roster from like the mid-90s. If you in the AFC, you weren't going to the Pro Bowl. We had, we had that thing on lock from like night. From like 90 90. From like 93 through 98. You weren't going. Jared Ward. Watson made a post working out with Jerry Judy. What do you think? He didn't play hard for Sanders. If you watch the tape, you can clearly see he didn't give effort with the bag he got.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Look,

[Shannon Sharpe]

all I know is that Watson, they paying Watson a lot of money. And if he's healthy, he's going to have every opportunity to start. It all depends on how soon. Because everybody's starting scratch from scratch. Ocho. Because this is entirely different offense. So nobody has an upper hand. J Dub, Akron. I remember Monday night game when you were miked up against the Steelers. You told Holmes he was the weak link and he was slipping over the middle. Yeah, he did. He called me slipping. Did you Earl Holmes ever talk about that later? No. I told him, I said, you the weak link. We gonna take advantage of you. I said the other guys, they're good. You,

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

I think ain't Earl from Miami.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Ain't Earl from the crib. Ain't from Miami. No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think they had. I think they had Peasy and Gilden. I think that was the starting linebackers. But outside Peasy was there.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Yeah. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hell yeah. And. Cause inside I think they had. What's her boy name? Kendra Bell.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, boy, he can hit. Boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy. Kendra Bell drop boy, he can hit.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Hey, Kendra Bell. Every. They always buckling tackles, pulling guards and stuff. Kendra Bell and Brandon Spikes. You ever see. You remember Brandon Spikes?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do. Brandon. Brandon. I remember Spikes. Yes. Man,

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

this was a load and they buckle. Everybody. Everybody. I don't care who it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. New York cooling. Who's winning the quarterback battle in Minnesota? I personally think Kyler Murray.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

I do too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Pappy Ray. What's up y'?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

All?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's the best all time sports moment you've witnessed live at a game before? Does the all star game? Because I was at the all star game when Josh Hamilton put on that show at Yankee Stadium. That might be the best moment that I've seen.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

When was, when was that? The Lakers lost to the Pistons.

[Shannon Sharpe]

2004. It might have been three. 2000-2003-2003-2003, 2001. 99. 2000, 2001, 2003.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

No. My, my. Before I got drafted that summer being in la, I want to watch Philly play against the Lakers when AI scored

[Shannon Sharpe]

that 50, that 50 something 48 and stepped over fish.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Game one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yes. What? He had 48.

[Shannon Sharpe]

48.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Yeah. He act a fool that game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Congratulations to the Michigan Wolverines as they take down. They took down the UConn Huskies and win the national championship. Their first championship in men's college basketball since 1989. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite UNC. That is my partner and co host. Liberty City's own bingo ring of fame honoree. A former pro bowler and an all probably and still Ocho secret. Yeah, I see. And my other, the other co host. Yes. A seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks. University of Arkansas alum that is ISO, Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support. Thank you guys for staying with us. It's the first time in almost three. It's the first time ever. We've gone over three hours. But we had a lot to talk about tonight. The questions were very interesting and we felt that we had to get in depth and answer some of these. So thank you guys for your Joe, for watching.

[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

Kick them legs up tonight, Joe.

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Boy, you. Hey, that crown. That crown don't even sit on your head right? No, sir. Hey, boy, y' all some big freaks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Joe 'Ocho' Ortega]

We're out, Joe. We'll see you. Make sure she use a thumb.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you got what?

[ISO (Joe Johnson)]

Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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