Nightcap Hour 3: VIRAL video of Mike Vrabel + WILD Foods at MLB games + Q and Ayyyy

Summary

Club Shay Shay – "Nightcap Hour 3: VIRAL video of Mike Vrabel + WILD Foods at MLB games + Q and Ayyyy"

Date: March 28, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (Unc), Chad Ochocinco Johnson (Ocho), ISO Joe Johnson, and Uncle Joe

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap blends lively sports talk, food debates, and poignant life reflections. The trio—Chad Ochocinco Johnson, ISO Joe Johnson, and Uncle Joe—discusses a viral video of Mike Vrabel, wild food creations at MLB games, and takes questions from their audience, delving into topics of legacy, loss, family, and gratitude. The dynamic alternates between humor-filled banter and authentic, heartfelt storytelling, providing both laughs and wisdom.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Viral Mike Vrabel Coaching Clip

[03:31–07:22]

• Mike Vrabel’s Technique: The crew watches a clip of Patriots coach Mike Vrabel working with Arizona State offensive linemen at Pro Day, recalling Vrabel’s career and physical style—especially his edge-setting abilities under Coach Belichick.
• Belichick’s Linebacker Preferences: Ocho describes Belichick’s penchant for large, aggressive linebackers capable of stopping the run, referencing past teams with big 3-4 defenses.
  • Quote (Chad Ochocinco, 04:50):
    “He love big ass linebackers. 6’3, 6’4, 245, 250, 265. Cause you got to be able to stop the run…you can’t stop the run, you can’t win.”
• The trio launches into locker-room-style banter about lineman/linebacker battles and blocking strategies.

2. Wild Foods at MLB Games

[07:22–14:34]

• Craziest Concoctions: The group reacts to over-the-top stadium foods, including:
  • Pizza Donut (Colorado Rockies): Met with skepticism and laughter.
  • Glazilla (2-foot hot dog): Ocho jokes about potential digestive consequences.
    • Quote (Chad Ochocinco, 08:20):
      “Absolutely no, sir. Zero chance. No, you...this right here, you will be in the bathroom.”
  • Diamondbacks’ Milkshake (with whipped cream, PB sandwich, cookies, Kit Kat bars, Nutter Butters): Some intrigue, mostly skepticism.
  • Schwarbomb Sundae (Phillies): Ice cream, fried Uncrustable, funnel cake, strawberry sauce, fruity cereal. “Great for cheat day with the kids!”
• Personal Ballpark Orders: Ocho prefers chicken tenders and a hamburger, while ISO Joe claims he can knock out nine Cokes and hot dogs with ease.
  • Quote (ISO Joe Johnson, 10:56):
    “Joe, I’ll be done with that in about five, seven minutes. Five, seven minutes, Joe.”

3. Baseball Game Experience and “Accelerated Clock”

[13:36–14:34]

• Discussion of the new MLB pitch clock and how it speeds up games, with Uncle Joe sharing his Detroit Tigers experience and everyone agreeing it's a positive change.

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Q&A: Audience Questions and Deep Reflections

[19:47–74:31]

A. Fourth Down for the Super Bowl – Which QB?

[20:47–21:59]

• Audience Q: "Which current QB do you trust most on 4th-and-1 to win the Super Bowl—Mahomes, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, or Lamar Jackson?"
• Panel Answers:
  • All select Patrick Mahomes for his proven clutch factor and Super Bowls.
  • Jalen Hurts also gets praise for championship pedigree.

B. NBA Legend Teammate - Who Would You Play With?

[22:03–22:55]

• ISO Joe: Would love to have played with Kobe Bryant on the Lakers, highlighting the electric LA atmosphere of early 2000s.
  • Quote (Uncle Joe, 22:34):
    “I never seen nothing like that. It was amazing.”

C. Loss and Grief – Honoring Loved Ones

[24:06–39:27]

• Host Losses: The hosts share deeply personal stories of losing parents, grandparents, and close friends, with a focus on Chris Henry (WR).
  • Chad on his grandmother Mary Porter:
    • “If I can love somebody half as I much as I love Mary Porter. Ocho, if you love somebody as much as you love...it’s different.”
  • Uncle Joe on his mother:
    • “For my mother…she was the best thing that ever happened to me, bro. Like, I’m still dealing with that today. It never goes away, bro. Each and every day, the only thing they can help you is time.”
• Coping Strategies: The men discuss using pain for motivation and the impossibility of replicating the unconditional love of a parent or grandparent.
  • Memorable Moment: Emotional recollections about caretaking and final moments with loved ones—raw and relatable.

D. Love, Scars, and Relationship Challenges

[39:27–49:06]

• Gratitude and Imperfection: Ocho underscores wanting to be appreciated for his scars and efforts—not gifts.
  • Quote (Chad Ochocinco, 45:19):
    “The number one thing that I hate in an individual is ungratefulness, man.”
• Family Dynamics: Ocho opens up about the challenges of blending family loyalty with romantic relationships—especially criticism of how much he does for his kids.
  • Quote (Chad Ochocinco, 47:25):
    “When the person I’m seeing is envious of my kids…they still my kids. They could be 60; I could be 90. They still my kids.”

E. High School Competition and Lasting Friendships

[49:28–53:31]

• The guys reflect on high school sports rivalries and which friends they’ve kept in touch with, highlighting how some relationships last while others fade due to changing life paths.

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Additional Q&A Topics

• Most Successful Offspring of Athletes
  • Archie Manning (Peyton/Eli), Steph Curry (Dell Curry), Klay Thompson (Mychal Thompson), and Barry Bonds (Bobby Bonds) cited as tops in NFL, NBA, MLB ([63:24–63:53]).
• Chris Henry’s NFL Talent
  • Remembered as a special wideout, compared to Randy Moss in stride ([64:42–65:22]).
• Women’s College Basketball
  • Shoutouts to Hannah Hidalgo’s triple-double at Notre Dame and buzzer-beater upsets ([65:45–66:33]).
• Audience Tributes
  • On-air happy birthdays and condolences to viewers who lost loved ones ([61:32–62:36]; [69:39–70:05]).

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Notable Quotes

• On choosing Mahomes over other QBs
  "I’m taking my homeboy on simply because he’s been in that situation before. He has three. He has two Super Bowls already…”
  —ISO Joe Johnson ([21:29])

• On love and loss:
  “If I can love somebody half as much as I love Mary Porter, I’m good.”
  —Chad Ochocinco Johnson ([32:10])

• On gratitude:
  “The number one thing that I hate in an individual is ungratefulness, man.”
  —Chad Ochocinco Johnson ([45:19])

• On sports food excess:
  “Absolutely no, sir. Zero chance. No, you...this right here, you will be in the bathroom.”
  —Chad Ochocinco Johnson ([08:20])

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Fun and Light-Hearted Moments

• Ballpark Food Jokes: Exaggeration and laughing about how many hot dogs or sodas they could consume at a game, with playful “you’ll be in the bathroom” warnings ([07:22–11:16]).
• Pool and Ping Pong Smack Talk: The trio challenges each other to future “nightcap” games, teasing over pool gloves and ping pong prowess ([66:39–69:07]).
• Club Life Stories: Gentle ribbing over who last hit the club and the joys of quiet nights as “ultra-verts” ([72:12–74:03]).

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Mike Vrabel viral video/linebackers: [03:31–07:22]
• Wild MLB stadium foods: [07:22–14:34]
• Pitch clock/baseball game changes: [13:36–14:34]
• Q&A begins (Super Bowl QB, NBA teammates): [19:47–22:55]
• Discussion on grief/loss/family: [24:06–39:27]
• On love, scars, gratitude: [39:27–49:06]
• High school rivalries and lasting friendships: [49:28–53:31]
• Athlete offspring, Chris Henry, NCAA updates: [63:24–66:33]
• Listener celebrations and tributes: [61:32–62:36]; [69:39–70:05]
• Friendly banter—pool/ping pong/club: [66:39–74:03]

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Episode Tone

This Nightcap episode moves deftly between comedic, brotherly energy and grounded, powerful reflection. The trio’s chemistry lets them pivot from roasting each other about food or sports to discussing how to deal with grief and the ongoing search for meaningful love and appreciation.

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For listeners: If you love honest sports debate, stories of perseverance, and real talk about life outside the limelight, this episode of Nightcap offers it all.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

video game of Gone Viral the Patriots head coach Mike Vrabel coaching up Arizona State Top offensive line each and all the Sun Devil Pro day. Take a look at this. Braves.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey Brave stay getting into the mix boy with them boys. Boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, he's strong. Hey, like I said man, I played against him in Pittsburgh and in because he was with the Steelers first. People don't really know that but his first year is with the Steelers and then he went to the Patriots and I think he finished in Kansas City if I'm not mistaken. But when it came to sitting the edge, the one thing you do and you play with a Bill Belichick team, you can set the edge. Every linebacker I've ever played when he was coaching in Cleveland, when he coached at the jets, when he coached in New England, they're gonna hold the edge.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, it was. It was him and if I'm not mistaken, we played. We played the Patriots. I think it was Willie Mc. It was Willie McGee in Bravo if I'm not mistaken.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah and that's but the thing is and co. If you look at Coach Belichick system, he love big ass linebackers. 6 3-642. 45, 250, 265. Cause you got to be able to stop the run. Coach Belichick believes you can't stop the run. You can't win. Go back and look at his linebackers when he played when he coached the Jets. Look at lt. Look at Carl Banks, Pepper Johnson. I played against Pimp when he was in Cleveland, too. Look at his linebackers when he was in the Patriots. Look at his linebackers when he was in Cleveland. He liked big because he played 3, 4 defense. 3, 4 defense. Edge, guys. 6, 3, 6, 4. 245, 250. Big middle linebackers, 245, 250. They stopping to run. They gonna make you one dimensional. But I like this. He's like, son, this is what you got to do. So when you feel pressure here. Hey, when he pushed.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When he pull, you push wherever you feel pressure.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's how I like. I lock Ocho out like that, I'll be smoking cereal, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

One arm knock who out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Beat me for those.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You too, little man. Your knees too bad. I'm coming right around that, huh? Well, these hands. You hear me?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's what Ocho All I would do. Oh, I'm run you up the field.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Up the field.

[Uncle Joe]

But you go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Great, because I know you're gonna try to run. You not gonna try to pull me. I already know you're gonna try to use speed to get a Bible.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All I'm doing. I'm set one way, and I'm gonna spin off that. I'm not running up no field. I'm. I'mma spin right off that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'mma wash you. Wash it down into the line.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah, because I'm. I'mma set you wide. I'mma purposely set you wide and bring you back on under. Yeah, I'm done.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm done.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm going kick twice. I already know what a quarterback.

[Uncle Joe]

Hold on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'mma make you kick a third time because I need the space to get back inside.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

For what? For what? You don't have to look. I'm kicking twice. You stay at that wide, I'm gonna push you up the field. The quarterback gonna step up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you. Nah, I'm too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You do realize I. I occasionally. I did block defensive end and linebacker. They were a little bit bigger than you, though. All right, guys, we got some absurd foods at, you know, baseball. You know, they be coming up with these concoctions and to see what you eat. Check this out. You and Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

What is that?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's the Rockies. That's a. A pizza donut.

[Uncle Joe]

That's a pizza donut. What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

I don't know. I might Try that on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, the next one, the rock, is Glazilla, a two foot long. Oh, no, look, I mean, come on, look at that. The hot dog got both ears. I ain't got no. No, sir.

[Uncle Joe]

We know he thinking that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I, I, yeah, we already know I eat that. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. He got that. He nibbling the end of it now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, I'm definitely trying that. The piece of donut. That's.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's a, it's a, it's a two foot, two foot, one pound hot dog

[Uncle Joe]

top with some of her sort of pasta salad.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It looked like, like, look like a pasta salad or, or, yeah, a pasta salad. Sundried or something. Absolutely no, sir. Zero chance. No, you. Just for you, Ocho. This right, this right here, you will be in the bathroom. So you enjoy the game.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, yeah, I see him walking around

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

with a whole A nine for nine. So you get nine hot dogs and nine beers.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, give me the hot dogs. And instead of nine beers, give me nine Cokes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Boy, you be in the bathroom peeing all day.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm good, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I missed one inning. That's it.

[Uncle Joe]

Come on, man, you ain't no 9 hot dog, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Boy, look,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't want to come to hot dogs.

[Uncle Joe]

Ocho, Ocho. Ocho is in the Bible.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Good gluttony you get.

[Uncle Joe]

You. You just out here just being greedy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now this right here gonna give you a stomach ache right here. The Diamondback, they got a milkshake combining whipped cream, peanut butter sandwich, cookies, Kit

[Uncle Joe]

Kat bars and peanut butter cookies, though. I ain't gonna lie.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, yeah, jumping. I ain't gonna lie to you. I can pass on the shake, but boy, them Nutter Butter.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I'm gonna pass. I'm gonna gracefully pass on the shake because I already know men lack being ice cream don't work, huh? What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I could try that. I could try that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right, what about this one? The Phillies Schwarbomb Sunday ice cream topped with a funnel cake. Fried uncrustable. Oh, yeah. Strawberry sauce and fruity and fruity cereal.

[Uncle Joe]

That's a good cheat. That's a good cheat day there. Boy. I can see me and the kids going to town on something like that funnel cake with that ice cream.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What's that? Because the Dodger, The Dodger got one. Got a, A Sunday in a, in a, in a like a real life size.

[Uncle Joe]

That's that homemade vanilla.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah. No, I got, I tried.

[Uncle Joe]

I ain't gonna Lie. I'm try that. I'm gonna try that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I try everything so far except the first one, the piece of donuts. That's a no go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I'm, I'm, I'm. I'm. I mean, if I get me like three lactates, I might be able to that peanut butter. But the hot dogs and the beer and I definitely. I definitely ain't trying that Glimz.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I like that. I like that Glazilla, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, nah, nah. Oj.

[Uncle Joe]

Ojo you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, you don't even feel bad eating something like that out in public?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Absolutely not. Every sport of the bin I go to, I get two hot dogs. Matter of fact, at the game, the Brazil France game, I had three hot dogs.

[Uncle Joe]

Dang. So you eat this whole thing right

[ISO Joe Johnson]

here and Joe, I'll be done with that in about five, seven minutes. Five, seven minutes, Joe.

[Uncle Joe]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And don't let me not have had no food if I know I'm going to the game. I purposely don't eat until I get to the sporting event. So I'm hungry.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hold on. I'm not just that, Joe. I need my popcorn, too, and my snack.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, you can't gain no weight, can you, man?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Joe. Hey, Joe, I've been trying. I've been trying for the past decade, Joe. I'm trying to get to 205.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, I can't eat like that. I can't eat like that, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I can't. I can't. No, sir. I'm gonna go get me some chicken tenders. I give you some chicken tenders and a hamburger. We just ketchup. I'm good. That's good for me.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, sir. Nine hot dogs. I wonder how much that costs. That's got to be like, what, 50 something dollars? Yeah, maybe more. Cause a beer in the game is probably like seven.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, you know, they. They taxing you at them games, too.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The hot dog probably $9, 9, $10.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know, the hot now, you know, Falcons game, they give you that stuff. That stuff. Hey, you get nachos, a hot dog, a soda, and Fang, and you get free refill on soda.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Falcon got a nice facility over here. They Mercedes Benz. They do? Well, they got some good food in there, too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe, man, you need to go to a game?

[Uncle Joe]

We do.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We go.

[Uncle Joe]

We go check out the Falcon game. Now, me and uncle would talk. Me, uncle were talking about something.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Y' all ain't gonna take me.

[Uncle Joe]

No, I'm saying me and uncle was talking about something. We, we.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, we Talking about something. I tell you about it next week.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, let me, let me know where y' all go.

[Uncle Joe]

We'll send you some pictures. We'll see you some videos and some pictures.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That joker. Look at the story. Look at buying your story.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, then he gonna start blowing our phone up. But I blow your phone, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Why don't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey. Hey.

[Uncle Joe]

Pissed off text messages?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah. O. I mean, you know what? We might have to go to a game. We might have to go to a game. I heard. What you calling me at SunTrust. I think that's what the Braves play. I heard they got some good.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I hadn't been. I heard it too. Huh? I heard it. So I might have to go. I'm gonna have to go check them out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I just like to go, like, try the food and I'll be gone. Don't stay for the game. I'll be gone by the fourth, fifth.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, hold up though. Hold up. I went to a. I went to a Detroit Tigers game last year. Y' all know they got that accelerated clock now for. For like pitching.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

So like, you know, I normally.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You go to a game and they take forever.

[Uncle Joe]

Now they got that accelerated.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, to where the pictures gotta be like.

[Uncle Joe]

I think that helps the game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I think so too.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, but see, I went to see like when you go to the. When you go to the Dodgers game, you better leave, you better believe before the game end because they were one way in and one way out. What?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

man, but I don't know.

[Uncle Joe]

Like I said, they ain't got a

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

whole lot on here. I mean, there was a lot of other stuff, but them hot dogs, I'm gonna have to let. Ocho, you have that. I got the pizza donut. I agree with you, Ocho. I can't do the pizza donut. I mean, it don't look like they got nothing.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

What's wrong?

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but I think I just get the ice cream. I keep lactate in my pocket. I don't want all that. I don't want all that stuff. As as we go somewhere like why you can't get ketchup and mustard. Oh, could I get pickles? Could I get onions? Could I get relish? Could I get. What the hell she get a. She get a whole salad on a burger. It does not taste better. All right, we're gonna get y' all here. The final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Before we get to the super chat, we got some video voicemail from our discord. The first one comes from Adris. Let's take a listen. What Adris had to say say hey, Unc and OO and ISO Joe, this

[ISO Joe Johnson]

is Adri and I have a question for all three of you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

First un oo for a chance to play in the SU to win the Super bowl and it's fourth and one

[ISO Joe Johnson]

on the 25 or 30 yard line

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

and you need a field goal or

[ISO Joe Johnson]

touchdown to win the game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Which quarterback are you taking?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts or Lamar Jackson? ISO Joe, which current NBA team or player

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

that you would have liked to have played with? Thanks. Hey, for me, I'm taking my, I'm

[ISO Joe Johnson]

taking my homeboy on simply because he's been in that situation before. Yeah, he's done it before. He has three. He has two Super Bowls already. Listen, the other three quarterbacks that, that she, she chose Lamar and Josh, obviously they're all capable.

[Uncle Joe]

Mvp.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, they're all capable, but they

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

heard has won a Super Bowl.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm simply leaning towards Mahone because he has three. Jalen wouldn't have been a bad choice as well, being that he's won one as well. But I'm, I'm, I'm going my own way.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

For me, this for me,

[Uncle Joe]

man, I ain't gonna lie. I would have loved to play with Kobe, bro. Kobe Bryant. Yeah, playing for the Lakers. Like I done been to many Lakers games, even when I wasn't even, even right before I got drafted because I, I trained and worked out of LA before the draft. That was in June. So I was out there in LA for like three months. So I had went to plenty of Lakers games and the atmosphere was just like no other, bro. You know what I mean? It's just gray weather, fanatics of fans. And it was at a time where the Lakers were at the top, bro. They were the best team. I think they were working on like a, I don't know if it was a 2 Pete or 3 Pete in 01. What was that?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That was 33 Pete, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

I never seen nothing like that. I never seen nothing like that. It was amazing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh yeah, by the way, I talked to Zeke today, Ocho. Zeke say coming on next week. He said he got something.

[Uncle Joe]

He hit me. He hit me too, Ocho. He said, he said, he said, you need to let me finish my point, whatever it was he was talking about.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, but he said, tell Ocho, when Joe started talking, don't say nothing.

[Uncle Joe]

So he got, he, he. It ain't, it ain't a whole lot of smoke, but he got a little smoke with you, you know what I'm saying? Like he, he ain't trying to throw no hands. He just trying.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Who that? Who that?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, he can't even beat me playing. So what's up? I'm. I'm ready. Whatever you want to do, we'll be on here.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He say coming on here either. He said he gonna try to get here next week, but if not, okay. Soon. Real soon. So he got.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Make sure he got the right. The right. The right tone now. Make sure decimal level is stay and stay correct. Whatever you want to do, we could do.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, basketball court, you know, hands. I mean, have. You want to do it?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. He said you repping that shot time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But, you know, Z came up in the 80s where they threw hands in.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Back in basketball 2000, we threw hands, too.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, the next one comes from Tyler Hamilton. Let's take a listen to what Tyler from South Carolina. My question to y' all is, who is a loved one y' all lost? You know, that has impacted y' all in your life or a friend or, you know, family member? I recently lost my college teammate, my brother.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, we used to be in

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

the same receiver room in college and played together. Rondell Moore. So RIP Rondell. I just want to hear y' all thoughts on that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean, people. People I've lost that were close to me outside of family, obviously. Losing Chris Henry. Losing Chris Henry. What was he. I forgot what. What year that was. Losing Chris Henry out of that receiver room, that. That was. That. That impacted me a little bit, that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That bothered me a lot. To have someone that I see every day, training camp, going through practice and.

[Uncle Joe]

And.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And having him pass away suddenly was unfortunate, but obviously, immediate family. Losing my grandma and my mama, you know, losing my grandma in 2018, losing my mama in 2021, you know, in. In a very short span was. Was. It was difficult. It was. It was. It was difficult, obviously. So now immediate family is just me and my brother, me and my brothers. And so that's. That's. That's really. You know, the head of. Of the family now is me.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, I think. Not think. But for me, I lost my pops last July. I lost my mother 2019, due to cancer. I'm only child. I got two sisters on my dad's side, Ashlyn, Tamika. I'm in the middle, but I'm my mother's only child. I didn't come up, you know, like my sisters, Ashley and Tamika. They know I love them, but we didn't. We wasn't raised together. You feel what I'm saying? I was raised an only child. So losing your parents, it does something to you? I don't know. You know, I know y' all got siblings that y' all can kind of lean on. I. And in my case, I mean, my dad, you know, me and my sisters, we all were together. But for my mother, who was probably not even probably, but she was the best thing that ever happened to me, bro. Like, I'm still dealing with that today. It never goes away, bro. Each and every day, the only thing they can help you is time. So, you know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yep.

[Uncle Joe]

I. I deal with it how I deal with it, but it's tough.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I agree with you, Joe. It's my grandmother, and, you know, you. You don't get over it. But as Joe said, time you get better.

[Uncle Joe]

There you go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That you don't get over it. I know. I remember exactly what I was doing. I remember when my sister called me. I remember when she was dealing with it the last two years, and knowing that, she's like, son, I got an appointment. And she would always say, I got an appointment. It's okay. You know, hey, we all got to do it. Death comes at night, but joy comes in the morning. And, boy, look here, you don't get. Like you said, Joe, you. Like I said, you get better at dealing with it, but you don't get

[Uncle Joe]

it because it leaves an imprint in your brain. You know what I mean? Like, just to give y' all some real context, like, you know, my mom had multiple myeloma, so it just kind of breaks the body down. You feel what I'm saying? So she go from walking and talking normal to being on bed rest that couldn't even do nothing but talk. And then she couldn't even move her lips. She could only see to the point like her heart just stopped. You feel what I'm saying? So, like, to have.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

To.

[Uncle Joe]

Have. To have to sit there and call my family to come see her right after she passed, after her heart stopped, like, that was the toughest thing. And then having, you know, the. The corner people come zip up in a bag, bro. Like those. Those.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You gotta make audio.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Those are the memories that stuck in my head. I can't get them out. You feel what I'm saying? So I use that. I use that pain that I have, and I put it toward, you know, whether it's me training, doing yoga, keeping myself busy, you know, things of that sort. But it's. I mean, it's tough. It's every day. Not a day go by that I don't Think about it. For sure.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It is something that you said, Joe. You said that the process of her dealing with multiple times. So she's up and moving around. Yeah, she's up, moving around, and then she's bed ready. And, you know, my grandmother had congestive heart failure. Everything was starting to shut down. And I remember the doctor telling my sister. Now, she's like. She was like, it's not too many more times that I'm gonna call you. You know, you say your grandmother. You know, your grandmother is just make.

[Uncle Joe]

Yes with it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Come to grips and all right. Stuff. It's tough. I remember, you know what? My grandmother had a. She had. Had a blood clot, and she ended up having to have her leg amputated just right above the knee. And in the process of having a leg amputated, she had a heart attack. So I remember she had the heart attack. And it's like, well, your grandma. The surgery was going well, but your grandmother had a heart attack. I was like, oh, Lord have mercy. But she's tough. She pulled through. Say she. You know, she's. She's in the recovery room, and so we're gonna move her back to the

[ISO Joe Johnson]

room,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

and probably in about another 30 minutes, you'll be able to go back and see her. When me, Spanky and Libby walked in that room, you wouldn't have known anything happening. Mother. She looked, she said, there go my grands. She said, I didn't think I'd ever see y' all again. She was so happy. Living prop. I was young. You got to realize my mom. My grandmother got on the train and came and got me from Chicago. I was three months old. That's context. My grandmother got on the train by herself. Never had been on the train before in her life. Came from Georgia all the way to Chicago. And when she was leaving, when they dropped her off at the train station, my grandfather yelled, don't forget to bring Spade back. That was my brother. I come back. They brought me back. I was three months. My dad comes and gets me, takes me back. I'm seven months. I come back for good. I'm two. So from 1970 until 1980, summer of 83, I slept in the bed with my grandmother every night playing football. Ocho. I scored two, three touchdowns. I dropped 30. I go home because my grandmother alone. It was my grandmother and my nephew. So that closeness, that. And that's what's tough. And I've asked. I've often asked myself, and I pray God, will I ever love a woman like I love that Woman, never.

[Uncle Joe]

That's unconditional.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's. That's. That's that. Because, Ocho, because that's. That's the thing. I say, God, I just. Just. If it's not to that degree, let me love somebody half as much as I love Mary Porter. That's it. I say, God, if you give me that, I'm good.

[Uncle Joe]

Because, you know, you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You like Joe. You Joe, you right. Man, they're boy. To go through what I went through to get to where I got. The only thing I could see was my grandmother like. Son, this is all.

[Uncle Joe]

This.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

This the best granny could do. This all granny got. Son, this ain't much. We. We spraying water on the floor. Because if you ever been in a warehouse in the cement floors again in the summer, and we spraying water on the floor so the dust she's. Son, this all we got. This ain't. This ain't much, son, but let's try to get it clean. Man, I drove me to the point of obsession and people like, well, Shannon, why you like? Cause I didn't have nothing. I'm. I was. I was poured and poured. Man, please.

[Uncle Joe]

Well, I know you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If I can love somebody is half as I much love. As half as I love as much as I love Mary Porter. Ocho, if you love somebody as much as you love.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Love Paul, it's different. It's different. We would never, you know, uncle and Joe, we'd never be able to fill that void.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And. And what they gave us, ever.

[Uncle Joe]

It was unconditional, bro. Unconditional.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They didn't want anything in return.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You're not gonna find that again.

[Uncle Joe]

I know that feeling.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Boy. That last time. The last time I held my grandmother, my arm when she was crying uncontrollably. That guy did the story on me. Mike Cliff. He remembered. And he was getting ready to come in the room, and my grandmother was crying. And I told him to stop because I didn't want him to see my grandmother like that. And I got in my arms and she just cried uncontrollably. And I just say, granny, I got it. I said, granny, I got it. I said, don't worry about Libby. Don't worry about Spanky, and don't worry about Mama. I told her. And when I talked to. She always called me as I got. As she got older, she stopped. I mean, she really never could. She called us boy, a son. She called me a baby. I said, granny, your baby got it. I said, go rest. I said, I got it. My grandmother had. Because Libby. Libby was because when Libby came in 1970, Libby never left. Libby never left my grandma's home. So when me. When Spanky went to school, it was me, you know, obviously my aunts and them started out. You know, they started getting married and moved out and did all their own thing. So it was Libby, Granny, my nephew Dietrich, they moved to the. My brother, they moved to the new house. It's my brother, it's Libby, Granny and Dietrich. Now. My nephew passed away. Is Libby and Granny. It's Libby and Granny. Libby and Granny. Libby didn't really like to do a whole lot if she coming. Libby coming on a Friday. She come to a game back, she got to get back. Got to get back to Granny, you know, when you coming back, you know, go to the Pro Bowl. You know, Libby I like, you know, she went to the Pro bowl two years. She called. She called and check on Granny. She worked. She was. She excited to go. But after the first day, you might not see Libby. Libby might not come down. Libby would come down like we get there on that Sunday. Libby would come down Monday, hang out, everybody laughing and talking. She might not come down out of her room until we got to go to the game Sunday. Then we on the red. I coming back. That's how she was. She wanted to be home. Boy, when I told my grandma I got it, that your baby got it, and you can go rest. Grant, I promise you, I got him probably a week. Probably a week. Libby told me, say she got Shannon, she gone. I said, for real, Libby? Yep. Then everything that you thought, all the things that you thought, everything. Like I said, y' all think I got a good memory when it come to sport. I can tell you every time my grandmother's ever been upset at me. I can tell you every time that she whipped me. I can tell you every word my grandfather said. My grandfather died in February of 1977. I would have been nine that June. I can tell you every word my grandfather said in front of me, verbatim. Verbatim. But situation like that, Ocho, like you said, is different. It's different. But I can't give up, Ocho. We can't give up, Ocho. Oh, there's somebody.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I feel that voice. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know the problem?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Huh? What's that?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What the problem is is that love that we have for them, you know, and. And you happen to. To try to find those same values and expectations, and you put that pressure on somebody else, even though they don't

[Uncle Joe]

know it, you ain't trying to do

[ISO Joe Johnson]

that bro down every time.

[Uncle Joe]

Joe, no, you ain't trying to put that on nobody.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, I mean, just. You heard what you heard what you just said.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Find someone to love the same way you love. It's almost impossible.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

well, I know I ain't gonna find nobody to love me like, man.

[Uncle Joe]

Hello?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Love me. Because she gave. She gave. She took her. She raised her nine and then took my mom's three. She gave. Mary Porter gave me everything but life.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You don't think you'll find anybody to love you the way Mary Porter loves you?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No. Hell, no.

[Uncle Joe]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

God, no.

[Uncle Joe]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm not that. I'm not that naive enough to believe that. Do I? Do I. Somebody love me? Yes. They'll love me.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Not to that extent, no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain't no sense of me fooling myself, but I do believe the person loved me. Yeah, for sure. And all because you gotta look, because, Ocho, you gotta love somebody even with their imperfections, even with their scars, even with the trauma. Because, see, here's the thing. You. You just don't love that person. You got to love that person and their past and the trauma that's associated with said past. But I think that understanding that nobody is perfect, man.

[Uncle Joe]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's a lot easier said than done.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I was just getting ready to say that. Because every. Everybody. Everybody insinuates love. When everything is going good, when the sunshine, everybody happy, you're living well, money flowing. He's easy to love. Then.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What the devil told. Told the Lord about Job. He said, you gave him everything. Why would he not serve you? He said, no, no, you got the wrong one. You got Joel messed up. He said, you do everything you want to, but you can't touch a hair on his head. Took his family, took all his kids, took all his livestock. Even his friends came by. Say, you ain't telling us, but you did something. Ain't no way that man demand that you. You serve. Put this on you. And you ain't did. You ain't got to tell us. God said, okay, y' all playing with me. I'mma do something for y', all, too. But don't worry about it. Job held in there. Job, old lady told him, say, just go ahead and curse this man. All them blisters on his bodies. Say, man, won't you go on and curse him and get out of this misery? Job looked at the woman and said, is he not God good and in bad? Woman, hush. So as you said, Ocho love somebody in good and in bad. Not when it's just going good. Not when the money rolling in, not when you at the top. Not with everything is. Because they're going to be hardships. They're going to be bumps in the road.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, let me ask you a question, huh? You've been around a long time. How many stay around for them bumps in the road?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Come on, now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean, it ain't. It ain't Sunday, and we need to preach.

[Uncle Joe]

It depends on. Hey, it depends on what type of bumps in the road now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It is there.

[Uncle Joe]

It is where it is. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, it all. Hey, Joe. Like you were before. I'm gonna let. I'm go ahead and say this. It all depends on what type of hol. You know what I'm saying? Did you run into a ditch? You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, listen.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They.

[Uncle Joe]

They.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They ain't gonna let you play in

[Uncle Joe]

their face now, all right? Yeah. No, no, no. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We.

[Uncle Joe]

We got a lot of fault that. That we got to take blame for, too. Now, you know?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't got no problem with that.

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You.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's me. That's on me.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, we probably all. We probably all done let a few get by.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't never told nobody. Look, I messed up. I messed it up. I ain't gonna sit here and hold nobody. Somebody. Oh, no. I've been good, right? I ain't. I ain't. And I'm a work in progress. I try to do better. I try to do better today than here we are. And tomorrow, try to be better.

[Uncle Joe]

We all are.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's all I got.

[Uncle Joe]

We all are, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I. I'm. I'm not perfect.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

None of us are.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But I just want somebody to love me and all these scars.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Depending on how many you got, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We got a bunch. I got a bunch. I've been through a lot, man. I've been through a lot.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hold on now. We in the same boat now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Don't do that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We went through our bit. We've been through a lot of. Joe. But I guess that's why God gave me these shoulders. He's like, bro, you can handle it. Don't think that it get. It doesn't get hard sometimes. You're like, damn sure. But I wouldn't change my life. I wouldn't change. I wouldn't change anything about it because I'm not who I am without marrying Barney Porter. I'm not who I am without the upbringing that I have. I'm not who I am. A lot of this is a blessing and a curse because maybe I'm too. I'm too structured. Maybe I'm too hard. Maybe I. Because I want. Because, oh, y' all was so small, and I just want. I wanted. I wanted to please everybody. That's my. My biggest fault is that I try to please everybody. And when I please everybody, the one person that I let down is me every time.

[Uncle Joe]

So you have to learn that the hard way.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You do, man.

[Uncle Joe]

Learn that the hard way, bro. You try and help people, and what you get in return is. Is just bs, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Sometimes you get to the point where you try to make people happy, and no matter what you do, for some reason, there always seems to be a problem that arises. And then at that point, for me, I've been. I'm known to. I don't want to be combative anymore. I just rescind on the doing part.

[Uncle Joe]

Right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I just stopped doing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Absolutely.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm on the other side of the mountain, if that makes sense.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I just. You. That's how I am, Ocho. You know what? I won't. I want gratitude. I want somebody to appreciate me. I don't want a whole lot what you want. I don't want nothing. I want appreciation. Thank you.

[Uncle Joe]

That's it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Appreciate that. That's all I want. I want gifts. I want appreciation. Shannon, I appreciate you.

[Uncle Joe]

I know what you mean.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I. I. The number one thing that I hate in an individual is ungratefulness, man. Hey, hey, that's the number. That's the number one thing.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, make you stop talking to somebody, man. I'm talking about. I mean, I won't. I won't even look your way, man. You act ungrateful, man, for real.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's. That's my number one thing. You don't preach because I'm. Because I'm thinking like, man, if it was me, I'm trying to get. I'm trying. And I try to go out of my way to get a person, whatever, especially that person in my life, whatever they. Whatever they want. Whatever. Whatever I think they want, and they could. They really gonna appreciate it. But if I spend X amount of dollars and you like, yeah, hey, it

[Uncle Joe]

could have been another color.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, being ungrateful and taking advantage of knowing. Knowing you're nice.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah?

[Uncle Joe]

My thing is use me. Just don't misuse me, bro. You can use me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You may need.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, A.J. i need you to. I may need you to call somebody. I may be trying to get a job, and if they hear from you, then, you know, boom, boom. I'll say less. I do that in a heartbeat, Especially for somebody I care for. Use me just don't miss you. Me just don't. You know, because it's like once you get somebody some once, they gonna be looking for that. They looking for that every. They look at every month.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, I cut that water off quick.

[Uncle Joe]

Joe, boy, you got to ocho that water all quick.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I. And you know what? You know what? Probably one of the things that's really caused me a lot of relationships is that when the person I'm seeing is envious of my kids. Well, why you continue to do this? They grown. I say I get all of that. They still my kids. They could be 60, I could be 90. They steal my kids. How you tell me don't do for them?

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I said, is it not like I don't do for you? I was like, I'm confused. The kids. I say my kids don't really. I say they come. They don't come around often. Yeah, they come stay a week. You know, my daughter would come stay a week. Other one come a week. When she. When before she got really busy in school. Kayla probably come around more. Key was working, and now he got a wife, got. Got kids. But I'm like, I'm confused. Well, they never. They never gonna get off your payroll. Okay. What the hell am I doing all this working for? So that's. I. I don't get that. Oo.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm. I'm confused how they even have the audacity to even question that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, you got a kid. You think I would say you spending too much time with your kid. You need to give me some of that time. I would be. What type of food would I be to say that? How much longer you gonna pay for your kid apartment? I don't know. Probably till I run out of money to hell damn kind of job is that. You put them through school? Yeah, I did. You bought him a car? Yeah, I did. You give them allowance while they was in school? Yeah, I did. They got another car that you pay. Okay, I get all that. You keep saying, okay, so what? What's the issue? What's the problem for you? What. What is it? Ain't nothing coming out of your pocket I'm still doing for you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's a red flag in itself, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Matter of fact, I'm paying for your apartment. I'm about to. You know what? I have a little bit more money if I stop paying for your apartment. Jordan. Dr. Frankie Bellamy. Hey, fam. What was your biggest Competition back in high school. Were y' all friends? And if so, do y' all still keep in touch?

[Uncle Joe]

Biggest company.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe you got in high school. Friends Ocho you got in high school.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

My biggest. My biggest competition was obviously I was a baby and trying to be like Samari, Dwayne Starks and Terry Cousins. Obviously, I was the baby, and that was my competition. Not. Not really competition because we played on the same side of the ball. But competing, trying to be just like them, That's. That's who I had to look up to. That's all I had to look up to at that time, being that they were the best on the team.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The baby.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's so funny. We all played on the same goddamn team at the same time.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, man. I think for me, coming up, Unc and Ocho, my two best friends, Carl Vaught and Brandon Greenwood. We all live on the same street. We all same age. Actually. Our birthdays are like. We all cancelers. Make it like that. BG birthday on the 24th, boss. The 26th. Mine the 29th.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now we've been doing.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, June.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm June 26th.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah, that's my homeboy, Carl Vaugh. That's his. That's his birthday. But, you know, we've been knowing each other since second grade. Grew up on the same block. Played ball together from all the way up to about. Me and BG Went to the same high school vault. He moved across town, but that's who I competed with every day. Uncle Ocho. From a kid I'm talking about From we was 7, 8 years old, Bryce. To get my butt kicked almost every day. I ain't gonna lie to y'. All. Cause we always about the same height. You know what I'm saying? My. My boy vault. Yeah, he a year older than us, being the same grade us. And yeah, he used to. He used to wet me out when we were younger.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Look, look, look.

[Uncle Joe]

He played ball. Uncle Ocho. He was in the paper. The man averaged like 11 steals a game. Like when we was in high. When he was in high school, he played basketball, bro. He averaged 11 steals. I'm not making this. That up. I promise you. He averaged 11 steals a game. This the same dude who, when I grew up, he knew all my moves. Like dudes. He used to. He used to whoop me till we was about 13, 14. From about 7 years old. About 13 14. Okay, Ocho, no lie. This. That's how I got better. So I ain't have an older brother, but that was like my oldest brother. That Was my, those were my brothers. You know, blood wouldn't have made us no closer. Like these are dudes I was with on a day to day basis. And we all.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who. No, I don't have anybody from high school that I still keep in touch with. Like when I haven't been home in

[Uncle Joe]

a long, long, long, long, long time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think the last time I've been to Glenville, Oh Lord, 2013, that was last time, the last time I've been, been home, been to my hometown. I just, when I go back, it's like, you know, we catch up, we laughing, talk, they come to the house, we laugh, you know, they, they grill and you know, I, you know that I mean literally tell them I'm coming home. We're trying to coming home this weekend. So you know, normally, hey, when I'm 100, parties don't show you 100, you know, hey, we get myself about eight, nine steaks, you know, some hot dogs, hamburger. They throw the grill, they get some alcohol, we have a good time. But I mean mainly, you know, if I talk, this homeboy on the phone is probably bucket burns. Occasionally I reach out to face, I'll talk to face, check on him, see how he doing. For the most part, my brother, my sister, kids, I'm just. There's a new term, it's called an ultrovert. And remember I told yo Cho, I said I'm the most outgoing, introverted person. You know, I have an outgoing personality, but I'm very introverted. And people like, but you, you talking you.

[Uncle Joe]

But I mean you love to spend time alone.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I do. If I go to an event, let's just say I go, I go to a function. When I come home, it's the best night of sleep because I'm fully exhausted. They people have taken me talking and carrying on if taking every bit of energy out of me. And I'm like, hey, yeah, I have a great. But when I, I'm. I'm home. I go from point A to point B. I go get, I go get my haircut, I go to the gym, I go to whole foods, get orange juice or.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, hey. Your navigation sound just like mine. Boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's it. That's it. That's why I don't have no miles on my car. I got, I got a car that's seven years old. I got 11000 miles on it.

[Uncle Joe]

Damn. Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause I try to kill, I try to kill. Like if I go like I go get a haircut and I go get my nails done. So that way I don't have to leave the house again. I try to do everything in one circle. One, one fail swoop. I go from the gym. I. Okay, I'm gonna go get. I'm going to the gym. So I go to the gym, go get my hair cut, get my nails back home. That's it. Most of the other stuff. Water. You need water. Shelly have it in the house. Deodorant, toothpaste. Shelly have it shipped. I just, I've always. I've kind of always been like that. Even in college. Man, I would. I didn't go out, Joe. I went to one party in four years.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Boy, I ain't gonna lie. Boy, we used to be. We used to hang out when I was in college. Now hey, we, we. Hey we. We were squares. I don't know what. Cause one, none of us drinking. See the good the cats. I was hanging with Uncle Ocho. One, none of them drinking, smoking. We weren't doing none of that. I mean, all we were doing was hooping and we were going to party trying to get up on something. You hear me?

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Why? What's wrong?

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Uncle Joe]

That was it. That was it. That was it, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I was trying to sneak a peek. I ain't had to go to the party. I had to, you know, talk to a party before the party. Had to put my beardy. I done put my bed in during the week. It's too many. It's too many over there. Trying to push up on one. So I'm trying to put my bed in early. Do 727oo ISO. I'm a Johnson. Can you tell my man Reese, 3:20, Princess. 8:324. Happy birthday to my prince Ryland. Daddy loves you. Absolutely. He said he got a little man named Print named Reese. He's born on 320, so. And Princess, she's 8, 324.

[Uncle Joe]

Damn. So you're Johnson, too. Happy birthday, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he just, you know it.

[Uncle Joe]

No, I don't know him. But you know us Johnson, man, you never know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, we might be related, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think Johnson and Smith might be the most popular.

[Uncle Joe]

Hold on, hold on, hold on now. No, because my bloodline won't move like how you move. I see how you move. I'm a Johnson. My bloodline, the Johnson bloodline that I got, they don't move how you move, bro. I don't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know, Joe. You might be the only one. Well, you might be the oddball,

[Uncle Joe]

But.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Happy birthday, Reese and Princess. Your daddy loves you guys. So happily, you did something fun today. You celebrated birthdays. Happy birthday. Enjoy, Prince Drama 27. Shout out to my Blue Devils. Them and the Yukon only two school with both men's and women in the Elite Eight. If Michigan women win today makes three schools. Yes, yes. But Michigan, I think Yukon have done it before.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Women both won the national championship at the same year. Jordan the goat 96, who's the only school to get 100 plus scored on them round. So Ocho go to bully like Art Walker did those raises.

[Uncle Joe]

Whoa.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, Joe, that. Yeah, I mean, y' all got.

[Uncle Joe]

It's over. That's old news. If. Hey, listen, that's old. That's old with. We ain't gotta talk about that. We talking about today. See, I live in the prison. If it ain't happened about four or five minutes ago, I really don't even remember. I'm gonna just keep it 100 with y'.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All. Lady. Ray. Lady. Glad to have you back. We hadn't heard from you in a while. Hey, guys, who would you say is the most successful offspring of a former NBA and NFL players thus far?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, Big Manning. NFL.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because of Archie. Because Archie got Peyton and Eli.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Steph.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Steph Curry. Step. Absolutely. Steph Curry.

[Uncle Joe]

Tim Hardaway Jr. You got Klay Thompson in there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Clay. Yep. Michael was the number one overall draft pick.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Baseball.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Barry Bonds. Barry and Bobby Griffin Jr. And senior. The boons. The boons.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Guerrero.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think Bob Boone played. I know Brett did.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

One of the Guerreros. I forgot to say the last name. It started with a G, though.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Vlad and Vlad Senior. Vlad Junior. Morses.

[Uncle Joe]

Al.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We good?

[Uncle Joe]

75.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

One question tonight, fellas. Chad. How good was Chris Henry before his untimely passing? What's good?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Chris was good. Chris was really good. Chris had amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing speed. Very deceptive because he was a long strider, somewhat similar to Randy Moss.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

When Carson let that ball go, most of the time, I think. Nah, he ain't getting to that. And, boy, to see Chris Henry open up.

[Uncle Joe]

What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And get. And get the moving. But he was nice. He was. He was special. He was special, man. He going too soon, man. He was. He was. He was. Tremendous talent. Tremendous talent. And his son is phenomenal.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, I've seen him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He is phenomenal, bro.

[Uncle Joe]

I seen.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yep. Oh, Dale Jr. Dale Jr. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

NASCAR. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Bill Elliott and Chase Elliott.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Kobe and. And Jelly Bean.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. How do we forget him?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

LeBron and Bronnie Jr. We'll see where the Bronnie Jr. End up at Roddy M. What's up? Nightcap Fam. No love for the women's tournament, Hannah Hadalgo, 31 points, 11 7.

[Uncle Joe]

Notre Dame triple.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Almost had a quadrant no double. I think she's the first woman since Caitlin Clark to have a 34 triple double.

[Uncle Joe]

Hold on, hold on. They. They beat Vanderbilt. That was a good game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That was because Vanderbilt got the lead score of the nation that I think lately.

[Uncle Joe]

I, I, yeah, she. She could play Duke hit a buzzer beater be lsu. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, you see Duke hit that buzzer beater three to beat lsu. I didn't see that.

[Uncle Joe]

That was the day

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Girl hit a step back three, and the thing oo it, it. It went in and spit around the rim.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right in.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It fell.

[Uncle Joe]

It hurt. Oh, that hurt,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Deshawn. Q and A. When are we going to get together for another nightcap outside? This pool game is way overdue. I beat Georgia Slim. Hey, that's me.

[Uncle Joe]

They don't want none, I promise you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Look at that. Hey, yeah, boy.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm a combination of effort.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, let me tell you. Oh, something I remember. I remember before we did the, the first one, I told y' all before we got out there that I was a pretty good bowler. Let me tell y' all something about this pool here. I ain't nothing to be playing with, okay? I just want to keep it 100 with Y', all, okay, Ocho, listen, I ain't picture. I, I ain't selling wolf ticket none of that. Let me tell you something. When you come play me, if you ain't got no glove on that left hand, I know you better have a see what I'm talking about. So I know how I know you ain't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But you're a rookie. Who don't nobody wear no gloves, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I usually do a little chalk.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, fella, y' all can take that back to the boys club somewhere where they playing it at. But I'm telling you, when you play with me against me. Yeah, man, you better bring your A game, partner. I promise you. If you thought bowling was something, you thought I act a fool on bowling. Pool was my game. I ain't gonna lie to you. I ain't got no problem doing that, Ocho. You know how I get down what

[ISO Joe Johnson]

you look like on that ping pong table.

[Uncle Joe]

I'm nice, Ocho. I'm.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm.

[Uncle Joe]

It may look a little flicked, but I'm nice. Okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. So.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So I. Well, I can't tell. I can't tell you. I play ping call because they might say I'm. I'M an undocumented. Cause, you know, I'm from over there. I'm over there. I want to say I think I'm undocumented.

[Uncle Joe]

Hey, listen, so. So now I know the next time we link up and make sure I have my stick in my bag and I'm have my paddle with me just. Just in case something jump off. Because if something jump off, I want to be prepared and ready. I don't want. Oh, man, I ain't got my.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I come to put.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, the funny thing about it is when you. When you're really good at what you do, you don't even have to have. I don't need my own stick. Whatever stick they provide me with, whatever paddle they provide me with, I will do just fine.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I already know, Ocho. I already told you, I beat you with a broomstick, so I ain't even worried about you. I. I take a broomstick, it sound good. And after I beat your ass, it sound good.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Just set it up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's what I would do. Boss man 93 or 07. What's up, y'? All? Not a question. I'm just saying, ocho already got LeBron 1v1, and he's been in the ring, too. Be careful. ISO respect. King, man.

[Uncle Joe]

Man, please. I got something for him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All right. All right, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

As long as you got insurance, you'll be all right.

[Uncle Joe]

Well, I told you, I already been working on it. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh. USS 2004 underscore. I lost my mama nine months ago today to cancer. So I know how you guys feel. It doesn't get easier. I miss her every day. I try to make her proud every day. Keep up the good work, fellas. We're praying for you, bro. Like I said, you get better at dealing with it. You're never gonna. You're never gonna forget that imprint that she has indelibly ingrained in your mind.

[Uncle Joe]

And that's. And it changes you forever, whether you know it or not. It changes you forever, bro. Forever. Yeah. Does

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Alex Sipos. Hey, Unc. I graduated from Camden County High in Kingsland, Georgia. I know exact. Camden County. Yep. Went to school with Jared Davis, the first round pick of the Lions. Just wondering, what are your thoughts at Camden as a high school team? Overall, you guys were good. You guys were quite a. We played you. We ran track against you guys. We didn't do anything else. We didn't play football. You guys were a quality school, if I'm not mistaken, when I played. So we ran track against you guys. We competed. Well, I Mean, we always ran track against a lot of the.

[Uncle Joe]

The. The.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The double AAA quad A school because, you know, we were single a school, but we had some guys. We get down on that track. We get down. Yeah. Mike. Mike. What's up, Big three? The question is for up from yesterday, you should try to have MJ and it on Club Sh at the same time. That would do. Cat Williams number. I mean, I saw. I. I think MJ is gonna be on Sunday. Sunday morning on cbs. I think he did an interview with Gayle King. I'm gonna get up and watch that. Yeah, because like I said, MJ don't sit down much. So when you get him to sit down, I would love to have him sit down. But Isaiah basically is like, if he ain't gonna apologize, I ain't got nothing to say. Enjoying ain't apologizing. So I'm sorry, guys. I don't see that happening. Coach T804. What's up, fellas? I'm up tonight. Appreciate that, Terry. 2211. Hey, guys, can you wish my homeboy Ray Vickers in South Florida, happy birthday? Absolutely, Ray. Happy birthday, Terry. Thank you for supporting and thank you for watching. We appreciate everybody that tuned in tonight and watch Nightcap. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. We know we came on a little late tonight, but I think this is the last of the late games, right? Because there's only a handful of games.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, man, it's like the club, fella.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We had to.

[Uncle Joe]

It's like us being at the club right now. This. This the new club, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What y' all talking about? Oh, we got. We got Box.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Hey. Fedora Fendor and Keith Thurman fight tomorrow.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, that gonna be a good one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Ojo, huh? This the new club, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, Joe. I ain't never been at this time of night, boy. You know, I. I don't Club.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, Joe, you ain't been to the club? I ain't bad. I ain't been to a club.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I like this.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When the last time you been to a club?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

My daughter's took me to Booby Trap for the first time. I don't know if that count.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I don't count.

[Uncle Joe]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't even know the real club I've never been to because I don't drink. It don't make no sense for me to be in there.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, no. I went when 5:20 came here. Jeff Teague, them, they came here, they had a tour. You remember this? What was that this summer? Huh? They did the tour Yeah, I. I went and hung out with them after. After the interview I did with them. That's the last time that was in. Yeah, that was in. It made a bit a minute ago, probably.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know. Oh, yeah. I can't remember last time I've been to a club. Club where people actually like dance. Dance music.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Music too loud. Hurt me is people stepping on your shoes. Yeah, I don't drink alcohol. And people that do drink, they want to hold a conversation and they. They start three conversations in one. Don't you?

[Uncle Joe]

What? Hey, hold on though. That, that, that R B joint they be having out here, they'll be. I used to. I used to be old faithful, but now I hadn't. Oh, they got. Yeah, I like. I like old R B now. Hey, you know, hey, the vibe be nice in there now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Joe]

Yeah. See, Ocho, we could have went to R B night. You know what? I ain't gonna even talk about it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, hey, the TSA one. No TSA people. But Joe, I'm nive. He had me stuck at the airport for six hours.

[Uncle Joe]

Damn all that. Damn you. I get pissed off even thinking about that day.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Everybody joke. You can take that pressure off when you see me in person.

[Uncle Joe]

Oh, I have every intent to. Don't even worry about it. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us. Now know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. My partner and co host, the former pro bowler and all pro from the Cincinnati Bengals, that's Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, University of Arkansas love that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from, we'd like again thank each and every one of you for your support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by Laportier, head over to laportiercognac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a city or state near you. The best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Please write responsible and stay safe. Duke advances to the Elite Eight for the third consecutive year thanks to an 8075 victory over St. John's UConn who they'll face the Duke will face UConn thanks to UConn beating Michigan State 63. 67. 63. Michigan beats Alabama 90 to 77. They will face Tennessee, who took down Iowa State by the score of 76 to 62, and the Lakers beat I ain't saying much. Beat the Nets. Luca had another 41, had another 40.9. He was 41 points and eight rebounds again. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Want to thank each and every one of you for joining us. I'm he's oo. He's ISO. We're out tonight, but we'll see you in a few hours.

[Uncle Joe]

Peace out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Uncle Joe]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You needed.