Nightcap Hour Part 2: Unc & Ocho are joined by Leonard Williams + Travis Hunter welcomes his first son

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour Part 2: Unc & Ocho are joined by Leonard Williams + Travis Hunter welcomes his first son

Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Date: August 28, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Co-host: Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
Guests: Leonard Williams (Seattle Seahawks DT), brief mentions of Kirby Joseph, Travis Hunter

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of Club Shay Shay’s “Nightcap” hour dives deep into the NFL’s present—player transitions, coaching philosophies, and the heart of locker room fun—while welcoming Seattle Seahawks star Leonard Williams as co-hosts Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson riff on football, fishing, fatherhood, and more. The episode also touches on Travis Hunter’s debut as a father, recent NFL suspensions, and features Club Shay Shay’s signature mix of spelling bees, trivia, and comedic banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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Leonard Williams: Finding a Home in Seattle (02:48—22:53)

Transition from Giants/Jets to Seahawks

• Culture Shift & Coaching Differences

  • Leonard on his fit with Seattle:
    “I feel like I found a home out here in Seattle. The way the coaches create the scheme allows me to play with freedom…They celebrate me for being in the backfield, and sometimes if I see a play outside the scheme, they allow me to swim a block.” (04:28–05:18)
  • Fan Base & Environment:
    “The fan base was one of the big differences… Just the way they embrace me, the way they show up on gameday.” (04:28)

• Comparing New York Teams

  • Williams talks about the difference between the Giants and Jets, despite sharing a stadium.
    “The Jets were kind of further out in Jersey… the Giants being so close to the city, felt like an actual New York team.” (07:01–07:12)

Personal & Professional Growth

• Freedom Revitalizing the Game
  • “For me, it brought the excitement of football back... when you’re out there having fun, and you’re able to play free and be celebrated for it, the best out of you comes out.” (06:16)

Training, Health & Performance

• Reunited with College Strength Coaches

  • “Our strength staff here at Seattle is the same I had at USC. They watched me develop as a young player.” (07:53)

• Seattle Defensive System

  • Williams details a memorable interception:
    “That’s one of Mike McDonald’s genius plays—designed for the D-tackles to drop out. When it happened, it felt like an out-of-body experience.” (08:49)

Versatility on the D-Line

• Moving Across the Line
  • Shannon: “Turning the handle to the door…seeing which one opens the quickest.” (12:16)
  • Leonard: “That’s something that makes me unique. I could play from zero all the way out to 6-9 technique...I prefer three-technique, there’s less space, less to look at.” (12:57–13:24)
  • Leonard explains the “find the fish” concept—targeting the weakest opponent on the O-line. “Against the Niners, they line me up on Trent [Williams], because a lot runs through him.” (13:55–14:22)

Being Traded Midseason

• Adapting through Uncertainty
  • Leonard received news from the GM at the Giants’ facility. Despite uncertainty and a sudden move across the country, he remained focused:
    “With so much out of my control, it made me focus on what I could control.” (15:23–15:59)

Individual Goals and Recognition

• Aspirations for 2025 Season
  • “I want to be first-team All-Pro, Pro Bowl, maybe 10+ sacks, 15+ TFLs…feed my guys—a great D-line, at least four of us can have 8+ sacks this year.” (16:30)
• Defensive Tackles and Sack Expectations
  • Discussion about the evolving standards for DTs: “The standard for D-tackle changed in the last few years, Aaron Donald was a big part of that… Fans want to see 10+ sacks now.” (17:35–18:00)

Off-Field Interests

• Leonard Reveals His Love for Magic: The Gathering

  • “It’s a card game, kind of like Pokemon... Wizards [of the Coast] is based out here in Seattle; they gave me a tour.” (18:56–19:14)

• Outdoor Life & Fishing

  • Williams enjoys spear fishing and boating, spending offseasons in Florida (20:13–21:00)
  • Ocho and Leonard bond over free diving and plans to fish together.
    Chad: “I free dive when I fish.” (20:58) Leonard: “Come on.” (21:04)

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Chiefs’ Rashee Rice Suspension (22:57–27:44)

• Discussion on Impact of Rice’s 6-game Suspension
  • Chad downplays the effect:
    “It doesn’t hurt the Chiefs at all…You got Patrick Mahomes at the helm…that offense is plug and play.” (23:22)
  • Shannon raises concerns about Travis Kelce’s diminished production last year:
    “When Tyreek left, Kelsey was at his apex…the question is, can he summon it up again?” (24:03)
  • Both discuss Chiefs’ O-line and new additions (Hollywood Brown, Xavier Worthy).
    • “They ain’t no slouches...just got a little 4x1 track team.” – Chad (26:08)

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Micah Parsons’ Injury & Contract Drama (31:12–33:15)

• Parsons’ “Back Tightness” and Contract Leverage
  • Chad: “If I was him, I wouldn’t play Week 1…let’s see what you do without me.” (31:35)
  • Discussion on the leverage parallels with Emmitt Smith, and franchise pressures on Jerry Jones.

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Travis Hunter’s Baby Announcement & Monday Night Football (34:14–40:43)

• Jacksonville Jaguars on MNF (and the Travis Hunter Buzz)

  • Ocho and Shannon debate the team’s “box office” appeal:
    Chad: “Brian Thomas Jr., Travis Hunter…we wanna see that!” (34:31) Shannon: “I think it has more to do with Travis…potentially playing both ways.” (36:38)

• Fatherhood & Athlete Mindset

  • Travis Hunter and wife Liana announce the birth of their first son.
  • Chad jokes: “With me having…374 kids, it really never changed. I just always kept the main thing the main thing.” (37:59)
  • Shannon: “There’s something to be said for a guy that’s married and get to come home, if it’s happy.” (39:15)
  • Both celebrate Travis’s new family, with Chad: “If you need, holla at your boy…I got a nursery program too.” (40:43)

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Ray Allen Flag Football & NFL Logos (41:17–46:13)

• Ray Allen Flag Football Clip
  • Ocho: “I want to question the level of competition that I’m seeing here on film…look like Amazon drivers out there!” (41:45)
• Cracker Barrel’s Logo Debate / Nostalgic NFL Logos
  • Chad and Shannon share laughs over the uproar about Cracker Barrel’s branding and what teams should bring back OG logos.
    • “Have they ever had the Mama’s breakfast?” – Chad (44:04)
    • On Bengals’ old logo: “The leaping tiger uniform…bringing those back would be dope.” – Chad (43:12)

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Breakfast Food Love-Fest (47:00–49:48)

• Bonding over Southern Breakfast
  • Extended riff on IHOP, Denny’s, and Miami’s best breakfast spots. Chad recommends “Just Spoons” and the art of dipping biscuits in syrup.

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Fun Segments

Ocho’s Spoken Word (50:23–55:44)

• Chad performs a soulful rendition of “A Chair is Still a Chair” (53:48–55:44), with Shannon introducing him as “Le Pepe Ocho Cinco.”

Ocho’s Spelling Bee (56:07–61:13)

• Comical spelling attempts by Ocho, with Shannon reading:
  • Parmesan: “P-A-R-M-E-S-E-A-N.”
    Shannon: “P-A-R-M-E-S-A-N. You are wrong.” (56:20–56:43)
  • Hippopotamus—close but not quite.
  • Centipede—correct!
    Chad: “This is what I do...1980 spelling bee champ.” (58:51)
  • Promiscuous—drama over Chad missing or not missing an S.
  • Veterinarian—epic struggle, to laughter from both sides.

“Dunk on Unc” — Detroit Lions Trivia (61:23–66:22)

• Chad quizzes Shannon on Lions history, to both men’s comic frustration.
  • Example:
    “Who was the first Lions player ever to win NFC Defensive Player of the Week?”
    Answer: Michael Cofer (63:23)
  • “I can’t believe I missed that one.” – Shannon (64:22)

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Listener Questions (67:09–74:47)

• Bengals’ and Eagles’ Super Bowl prospects
• Who’s under more pressure: Ravens or Bills?
  Shannon: “They weigh the same…they’re both under pressure.” (69:23)
• Advice for starting a bilingual sports podcast:
  Shannon: “Just be you. Be authentic.” (72:51)
• Grieving the loss of a pet—Chad: “You’re never gonna get over it, just gonna get better at dealing with it.” (74:39)
• [Comic bit] Eating balut eggs live for challenges—Chad: “That ain’t nothing. I swallowed that whole. I ain’t sipping nothing.” (75:18)

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Notable Quotes & Funniest/Boldest Moments

• Leonard Williams on his freedom in Seattle:
  “It brought the excitement back. Once I started having fun… the best out of you comes out.” (06:16)

• Shannon Sharpe on line play:
  “That’s how it is on the Serengeti. The old and weak get taken advantage of.” (12:16)

• Chad on raising kids:
  “With me having, you know, 374 kids, it really never changed…” (37:59)

• Chad on spelling:
  “1980 spelling bee champ, Charles Halle Park—let’s go!” (58:51)

• Chad on breakfast:
  “That mama’s breakfast…two eggs, scrambled…sausage…the batter in the pancakes…stop playing!” (46:28)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Leonard Williams joins & Seahawks talk: 02:48–22:53
• Chiefs’ Rashee Rice Suspension: 22:57–27:44
• Micah Parsons Contract/Injury Talk: 31:12–33:15
• Jaguars MNF, Travis Hunter Announcements: 34:14–40:43
• Flag Football, Logos & Breakfast Banter: 41:17–49:48
• Ocho’s Spoken Word: 50:23–55:44
• Ocho’s Spelling Bee: 56:07–61:13
• Dunk on Unc—Lions Trivia: 61:23–66:22
• Fan QA (Super Bowl, NFL, pets, podcasting): 67:09–75:18

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Final Thoughts

This “Nightcap” episode embodies the best of Club Shay Shay: sharp and personal NFL insight, real talk about life off the field, and unscripted, hilarious personality from all. Leonard Williams provides an honest, open look at life as a modern NFL star. The blend of sports, nostalgia, games, and food talk makes this a must-catch for anyone wanting the inside scoop—on and off the field.

Special Guests

• Leonard Williams (Seattle Seahawks DT)
• Kirby Joseph (briefly, not in main transcript)
• Travis Hunter (news segment; not live, but discussed)

For more detailed football breakdowns, catch Leonard’s defensive insights (04:28–18:00).
For laughs and heart, don’t miss the spelling bee (56:07) and spoken word (50:23).

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Listen if you want:

• Honest and informal conversations with NFL stars
• Locker-room banter and real talk about football, family, and fandom
• Comedy, trivia, and a side of Southern breakfast wisdom

Transcript

[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Leonard Williams]

How you guys doing? Can y' all Hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we can hear you just fine. Can you hear us?

[Leonard Williams]

Yes, sir. I'm on my wife's computer, so I'm trying to figure out how to change the name on it right now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What's up?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you mean to tell me you not Haley? What's that? You not Haley?

[Leonard Williams]

No, no, that ain't me. That ain't me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

LW Was good, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm.

[Leonard Williams]

I'm good. How you doing, man?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Listen, man, life is good, man. One foot in front of the other, man. I got my head high so I can see where I'm going. But before we start, before we get into football, I just want to know, do you got a nutritionist?

[Leonard Williams]

I don't have. I do have a nutritionist on the team that I use.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We're not using. We not using him or her no more. We're not using her no more. Listen, I'm a meal prep. I'm the NFL nutritionist. I've been appointed by the NFL for all the players, you know. So I'm gonna send you information and I'm gonna be your meal. I'm gonna meal prep you meals for the next 17 weeks and for the playoffs. And you my second client. So I got. Is you and Kirby Joseph, and then I'm. And 20 a week. 20 a week. That's all. That's all I charge. I'll be making sure before every game.

[Leonard Williams]

I'm about to tell all the rookies about that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you, Lydia. You get traded, you go to Seattle, and it seems like in Seattle you found a home. I mean, look, it's not that you didn't play. You didn't play bad and. But it seems like you found a home in Seattle. Can you tell us what's the biggest difference between Seattle and. And New York? And I'm not talking about geographically, but I'm saying in the defenses. It. It. Was it something. The way the coaches, the way you received the information, Was it the way they gave the information? Is the defensive scheme. What was different about the defense?

[Leonard Williams]

Man, honestly, I agree with you. I feel like I found a home out here in Seattle. I feel like there's a combination of things that made it feel different. So the fan base was one of the big differences. Just like the way they embraced me, the way they show up on game day, the way they support our team and stuff like that. And then also, just in terms of schematics and coaches, I feel like, you know, having AD who came from the Cowboys and then coach Mike McDonald, I I feel like they just kind of created the scheme where they allow me to, like, play with freedom, and they allow me to be, like, a playmaker and use my athleticism, and they, they. They celebrate me for, you know, just being in the backfield and. And sometimes, like, if I'm See if I see a play outside of the scheme, they allow me to, like, sometimes swim a block.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go make a play.

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah, exactly. Go make a play. Where. You know, a lot of times throughout my career, I feel like I've Was almost too coachable at times where, you know, I was taken away from my playmaking ability, where I was, like, trying to play a block the way the coaches wanted me to and stuff like that. So there's a lot of. Combination of stuff.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's so funny you just said that. We just talked to Kirby Joseph, and the one asked him, obviously they have a new defensive coordinator. Right. And I said, do you still have the freedom to have free will outside of the scheme that your coach has? Will they still allow you to do that? And he said, yes. And the fact that you. You started everything out about your coaches, allowing you to have the freedom to be able to make plays based on your football knowledge and what your eyes see instead of what it says on paper is really, really important, especially for players like yourself to be able to reach their maximum potential out there on Sundays. And that. That's. That's really dope. That's really, really dope to hear.

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah, I agree. I think it's important. I mean, for me, it just made me feel like it brought, like, the excitement of football back for me a little bit, too, which made me, like, once I started having fun, I'm like, y' all played before, so you know how it is, like, when you're out there having fun and you're able to play free and, you know, have free will and be celebrated for it, it's like the best out of you comes out. And I feel like that's how it is here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you this. When you're at the Giants and then you get traded, you're like, damn, has anybody ever been traded from the Giants to the Jazz or Jazz to the Giants? I mean, because it is so different. Jet fan. I mean, the jets fans and the Giants fans, they're so different. The city react so different to each team.

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah. I mean, like you said, it was even though we played in the same stadium, the fan base felt different. The culture felt very different. The jets were kind of further out in Jersey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Leonard Williams]

Felt like we were Like a New Jersey team kinda. And then the Giants being so close to the city made me feel like I was the actual New York team. But it was, it was very interesting. I mean, luckily I didn't have to move during that trade. I was still able to stay in my. But it was definitely weird when like that same week I got traded. I ended up playing in the stadium and like, instead of going into one parking lot, I went to a different parking lot and instead of walking down that hall to go to one locker room, I just went to a different locker room. So it was very strange. It's. Yeah, it was interesting.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. How's the body holding up, man? You going into camp, I mean, actually camp now ending, preparing. How's your body holding up?

[Leonard Williams]

I mean, amazing, honestly. I mean, I have a coaching staff. Our strength staff here at Seattle is the same strength stuff I had at usc.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Leonard Williams]

Yes. It's really cool. So they got to see me develop as like, you know, when I was a young player.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they know. They know it works for Leonard Williams.

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah, exactly. And, and we all talk about how it looks like I'm like. And it feels like I'm in the best shape of my life, honestly.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's dope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, that's saying something. I mean, for a guy your size to be able to move and as be as agile, because we saw. What did they say, you're the largest guy to ever get or what? You have a 90 yard return. You the. You're the heaviest guy in NFL history to return an interception that far for a touchdown, correct?

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah, that's correct. Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, so, so how did that. So let me so take us through that. Take us through that play. What, what, what was. What were you supposed. Were you supposed to drop in courage or did you see something? You see his eyes? You just like, look, I'm g. To make this play.

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah, that's one of Mike McDonald's genius players right there, actually, where we. It was designed for the D tackles to drop out and I actually got a pick in practice earlier in camp that year. So when that play was dialed up, like every time it's dialed up, I'm thinking I'm a play is coming my way. And it just happened, like, it happened so fast, man. Like people were asking me like, oh, like what were you thinking when it happened? And I was telling everybody, it felt like it was like an outer body experience, actually. Like, I felt I was almost watching myself from like an aerial view of. Of the happening, you know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because you snagged it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, it wasn't like. Ain't like you did. I'm like, no, bro, you. I mean, like, you played tight end at some point in time. You caught the ball, you played on the other side of the ball. You had to. That was not a defensive.

[Leonard Williams]

That means a lot. I played. I played tight end in high school, but it wasn't like much. It was like just every once in a while. I went to a big high school, so we didn't have to play both sides that much. But I'm an athlete, though, you know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey. Hey, you. Are you from la?

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah. I was born in California, but I went to high school in Daytona Beach, Florida. So I was kind of back and forth.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Leonard Williams]

From California, Florida, most of my upbringing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's live. That's live.

[Leonard Williams]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got a different quarterback this year. Gino leaves. He goes to Oak, goes to the Las Vegas Raiders. Income. Sam Darnold, who did an excellent job last year. But you on. You play with. With Sam. In, in, in, in, in, in with the Jets. So you're very familiar with him. What, what are the expectations? What you guys, you guys had had a nice little end to the season last year. I mean, so what. What's the expectations this year for Seattle?

[Leonard Williams]

I mean, I think the expectation is, you know, as a defense, we. We want to be the best on. On the field. We have high expectations for our offense this year, but like, we compete with each other even within the defensive room. And so the defensive line wants to be the best group on the defense. The DB is one of best group on the defense and. And so on. But I'm definitely excited about the way our offense is looking right now. We got a new coordinator and we're running the ball great so far. It's only been preseason, but it just. It just looks like a new team with the way we're running the ball. And then like you said, I play with Sam Darnold. NCI nc Sorry. On the jets. And then I also played with him at USC for like one year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. You can't get away from him, huh?

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah, I know he keeps. But like, just seeing what he did last year, I mean, you know, he even played against us really well when we played them last year against the Vikings. Yeah, and just seeing the way he's matured, you know, he's bounced around, played on a few teams, played in a few different systems, and I think he's finally found his groove and matured into a good player.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Most definitely. I mean, I'M excited for you guys, too, especially from an offensive perspective, seeing what Sam Donald was able to do in Minnesota last year, obviously with Justin Jefferson and Addison Haageson. But then also now you got jsn, you got Cooper cup over there. Kenneth Walker, obviously taking some of the pressure off him from allowing to be able to flourish. I think you all going to be fine. Y. Y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y' all gonna be fine. So I'm excited for y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who y' all got?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Week one, we got the Niners.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all got Divisional match. Divisional match, Week one, baby.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y. Y' all got that. Y' all got that.

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah, I know. I'm excited.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Niners, they hurt. They don't know who they gonna throw the ball to. Yeah, y' all good. Y' all got that?

[Leonard Williams]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question. When you. When you. When you tell me what. What's your mindset? What's your thought process? Because, you know, you do you move up and down the line because, you know, oh, the great. Like, a lot of the defensive players that, you know, the Reggie White, the Bruce Smith, the Aaron Donalds, those guys, the Johnny Randalls, Warren SAP, they moved up and down the line, and they trying to turn the handle to the door and see which one opens the quickest, which one opened the easiest, and that's where I'm going to stay. So I might be a. I might have to be a line up in a. A seven. I might have to line up with a five. I might get a three. I might get. Hey, I might get the nose. Whatever. I'm just trying to find the weakest link because that's how it is on the Serengeti. The old and the weak get taken advantage of. That's what I'm looking to do.

[Leonard Williams]

I mean, you said it perfectly. I mean, I never heard it described with the opening the door thing. That's like, I'm gonna have to take that back into the D line room and that. But, yeah, I mean, I think that's something that makes me a unique player. Since coming out of college. I could play from the zero all the way out to, like, 69. Technique on the edge, like. And it showed up last year. I was getting, you know, sacks at N. I was getting sacks at three techniques. I prefer three technique. Like playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like to play the undertackle, huh?

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like that shade. He like to build that.

[Leonard Williams]

It's just less space, less stuff to look at. Sometimes when I'm out there at the end, it's like they'll try to put a receiver out there, make it look like he's making.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look tall crack you. Yeah, yeah.

[Leonard Williams]

It's all that tricky stuff out there on the edge. Sometimes when I'm on the three technique, I'm just. It's just mono.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm go. It's go.

[Leonard Williams]

I'm getting on my man right now as quick as possible. But in certain situations, like playing against the Niners, it's a little less about finding the fish. What we call it, you know, like the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Hey, you gotta land him. Hey, we got a fish over here.

[Leonard Williams]

Yo, we got the fish. But against playing like the Niners is set up finding the fish. They actually like to line me up on Trent because they say their offenses kind of ran around him sometimes. So it's like their run game and a lot of stuff like that tends to run towards Trent Williams. So they like to put me on him to kind of, like, help shut down the run a little bit. So it works hand in hand like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's it like? Let me ask you. What's it like to get traded mid season? I mean, so they call you. So were you home when you got the news that you were trading? Were you home? Were you at practice? So. So where were you when you got the news that you were going to get traded?

[Leonard Williams]

I was in the building. It was on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah, it was on a Monday. So I came in just doing my normal routine. I was definitely hearing, like, conversations about, like, possible trade, you know, with my agent, and just the way the season was going for the Giants. You know, we were. We were losing. We were pretty much already out of the playoffs. And then the gm, like, called me into his office, so I kind of already expected what was coming. And the way he presented it to me was making it seem like I had, like, two teams to choose from that were, like, both trying to trade for me for around the same offer pretty much. And at the time, like, the Seahawks were, like, number one in the division. I knew a P. Carroll a little bit, and I just thought it was the best fit for me. It was obviously a struggle, like, coming all the way to the West Coast, Pacific Northwest in the middle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's a long way. That's a long.

[Leonard Williams]

That's a. Yeah, it was long. And then I'm living in a hotel for, like, two weeks before I get situated in, like, a house and stuff like that. So it's a lot. But, you know, I even played good for those eight weeks that I was here. And I remember, like, My wife and like, coaching teammates, even asking me like, you know, how were you able to play good even in the middle of, like, moving and, and transitioning your life and stuff like that? And for me, I told my wife and other people that, like, there was so much going on, like, out of my control, that it made me, like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Fully focus on what I could control.

[Leonard Williams]

Exactly. I was fully dialed in on what I could control. So it just, like the way I showed up for work every day, the way I played and stuff like that just like, went to another level because I was like, oh, like, I put so much more emphasis and focus on like, what I could control.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What are your goals this. This upcoming season? From an individual standpoint, Obviously, you know, team goals, you have those. Defensively you have. Obviously you have team goals that you have as a unit. But from an individual standpoint, what do you hope to accomplish this season outside of the main goal being Super Bowl?

[Leonard Williams]

I mean, as an individual? I think I just want to, like, build on the season I had last year. I feel like I was short of some accolades that I, that I worked for, and I feel like I want to, you know, be first AP all pro and Pro bowl this year and, you know, maybe like 10 plus sacks, like 15 plus TFLs, just. And also feed the rest of my guys. I feel like we have a great D line right now, and I feel like at least four of us can have eight plus sacks this year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is that what do you feel like, the defensive tackles? Because you guys don't get the high sack totals. Aaron Donald is anomaly. A guy that plays the three technique and get 20 sacks. That's crazy. That's unheard of different. But you guys don't get like the edges, you know, the Miles Garrett and, and. And the Michael Parsons and the TJ Watts that's out there on edge and playing in space. They're gonna have 13, 14, 15, 17, 20 sacks. Do you feel like you guys get the credit that you deserve?

[Leonard Williams]

I think the. The standard for D tackle definitely has changed in the last few years, and I think Aaron Donald was a big part of that. Obviously him getting 10 plus sacks every year and. And, you know, 20 sacks, his defensive player of the year, you know, that was, that was different for a defensive tackle. I think, like, if you were getting like six to eight sacks as a defensive tackle normally, that's like a good season.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a hell of a season.

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah, that's a, That's a good season for a D tackle normally. And I think nowadays, you know, Fans want to see 10 plus sacks from a defensive tackle for them to think that you had a good season. And, and unfortunately they see sacks as like one of the main stats and they don't see like all the play and play out plays that the run.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The tackle for losses. The, the, the, the holding up so the, the linebackers can make the plays.

[Leonard Williams]

I mean, I don't like to do all that either. I, I like to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I know what you told me you like to play the undertacker. I already know you ain't trying to 2gap. Yeah, yeah, I like him, but I.

[Leonard Williams]

Want, I want to make the play for sure. I love my linebackers, but like I said, we'd be competing in our room, so I'm good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, hey, first cup, first serve, bro. I'm trying to get. I got first crack. I'm closer to him than you are. I heard you're in the Magic.

[Leonard Williams]

Oh, what do you know about that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm just, I mean, you know, did a little research. Yeah. Yeah. So you.

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah, it's not like, it's not like pulling bunnies out of a hat, like card, not like that type of magic, you know, I mean, it's, it's a card game kind of like similar to like Pokemon.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Leonard Williams]

It's. You collect cards and you can play it. It's called, it's called like Magic the Gathering from like Wizards.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Gathering.

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah. And like Wizards of the coast is the brand that, that makes them. And what's cool is they, they're based out here in Seattle. So they gave me like a tour of their facility and stuff like that. And with, you know, we've been in communication about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. Is that what you do in your downtime?

[Leonard Williams]

I mean, I do a lot of things in my downtime. I feel like I'm pretty different from most football players. I think I started playing football later in life. Like, I didn't start playing football until I got to high school. And I feel like because of that I was able to kind of figure myself out as like a person a little bit. I mean, I was young still, obviously, but I feel like I was able to like find other interests and hobbies and stuff like that outside of football. So I like to go like spear fishing and like boating and traveling and stuff like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I was, I was about to ask you, being up there in Seattle, do you like to. Do you like to go fishing? Because, you know, what's the market? I went up there because you got to Go to the market. You're going to see how you got to go see them throw the fish and do all that. Have you. Have you caught him? Have you been able to catch it?

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah, of course. I went up there, like, a few weeks after I got traded. When I finally got out of the hotel, like, me and my wife were like, okay, now it's time to explore the city a little bit. So we went OK Market, and, like, they all recognized me, like, right away. So they were like, big cat, you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gotta come over here.

[Leonard Williams]

And like, I was definitely nervous because, like, I feel like I got hands like you've seen the intersection, but yeah, yeah. Catching a wet, slippery fish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that fish. Yeah, yeah.

[Leonard Williams]

I'm like, but I. But I caught it. And it was. It was a pretty cool tradition. But, yeah, that's something I like to do during my. My off time, is go fishing and stuff like that. And I'm based down in Florida during the off season, so it's pretty.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You in Florida?

[Leonard Williams]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We're at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For a lot of the, man, I'm right here.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm right here in Southwest Ranches.

[Leonard Williams]

Let's go fishing, baby.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I free dive when I fish.

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. When I go spearfishing, you be free diving.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Leonard Williams]

Come on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, man, look, I can hold my breath. Hey, Leonard, I can hold my breath like, four minutes. I could get in the spit in the water like myself. I'm a nomad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. So, man, when you get into off season, man, I got you. We got. We could take my boat.

[Leonard Williams]

Where you at? Where you at?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Huh?

[Leonard Williams]

Where you live? Where you live?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm in Southwest Ranches in Fort Lauderdale.

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah. That's nice.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Let's go, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's do it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, sir. This man told me he got a boat and everything.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I do got. I do got it. I got a yacht. It ain't. It ain't mine, but. But Mickey Harrison let me use his yacht when I.

[Leonard Williams]

Same thing, same thing, same thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't. Ain't nobody fishing off no yacht. Hey, let me ask you this. Would you like. Would you. Would you. Would you go on a trip? Let's just say they said, well, they go out for. They got to bring me back. I couldn't stay out there for no two, three months. The deadliest catch, you know, they go out there to the barren sea and they. I, I might could do it like a couple of days, but they have to come get me. I'm gonna lie, the way the boat.

[Leonard Williams]

Be Almost completely tilted over. I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like. You'd be sick.

[Leonard Williams]

Yeah, I'm pretty adventurous and I like to do a lot of crazy stuff my teammates judge me for sometimes, but that's one of those. I don't, I don't know about the deadliest cat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You good? You good with that? Them Alaskan king crabs, I wait till they break up, I break them, wait till they break them to the store, I get them, then I'll buy them from the market. Hey, I like it. I like the T shirt. You know that T shirt Legally five.

[Leonard Williams]

Yes sir. That's my team from la, baby.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man. Literally. Thanks for joining us, man. Stay healthy.

[Leonard Williams]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Great. A tremendous season last year. Hopefully even better season this year, man. Thanks for dropping by. And guess what? When you get that, when you get those double digit sacks this year and make first team all pro, come back and tell us about it.

[Leonard Williams]

Yes, sir. I appreciate y' all having me, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thanks for joining us, bro. Appreciate you.

[Leonard Williams]

I'll see you on that boat.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I got you. I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe, we got a little bad news. Chiefs wide receiver Rashid Rice has accepted the six game suspension for violating the NFL personal conduct policy. In July, Rice was suspended, was sentenced to 30 days in jail and five years probation for his role in a multi car crash in Dallas that left multiple people injured during the 2024 off season. Oo, how much does this hurt the chief start to the 2025?

[Chad Ochocinco]

It doesn't hurt the Chiefs at all. It doesn't hurt the Chiefs at all. Especially from an offensive perspective. They had Patrick Mahomes at the helm. They had Patrick Mahomes at the Hill helm. You look at, look at situations similar to when, when Tyreek left, that offense didn't miss a beat because the quarterback is that great. Now they still have Hollywood Brown, so they'll be fine. I'm missing somebody. They still have Xavier Worthy, you know, and one thing about that offense is each game, you never know whose day it's going to be. As great as Rasheed Rice is when he's out, Rasheed Rice is when he's out there on the field. It's an awesome thing with him being absent for six games. It's not going, the Chiefs offense is not going to miss a beat. That's just how great that quarterback is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I think the thing is, is that you, you look at Rasheed Rice's rookie season, they won and they won the championship and he was only going, he was only getting better before he got hurt last Year. Look at the numbers that he was putting up. And plus, when, when Tyreek left, Travis Kelsey was at his apex. The question is, can he still. Can he summons it up again and give you those type of season? We saw a dip into production. He had the fewest amount of catches, the fewest amount of yards that he's had in probably a decade. So what we saw last year is not the Travis Kelsey that we're used to seeing. Can. He said he lost £25. He got back. Congratulations, Trav, on getting married. It's going to be an unbelievable. That's going to be the spectacle. That might be lady die and print in Prince Charles. Yeah, that might be something. I mean, I don't know the last time we've had a wedding. That's, you know, that's going to be to the scale of what this is. Given who he is, given who she is, that's gonna be something. That's gonna be something special. But I, I, I do think it'll hurt Ocho. Now the question is, is Hollywood Brown all the way back? Is Hollywood. Is Hollywood gonna be Hollywood healthy?

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's healthy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Xavier Worthy look good. He looked unbelievable. And, and the Super Bowl. Now, look, it's hard for me to really judge it on that, Ocho, because you so far behind, and they just like, hey, do what you want to do, brother. Empty calorie yard. They ain't doing nothing right. But I did see. I did see. As the season progressed, I saw Xavier Worthy get better and better and better.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so I'm counting on him to build on that. The question again, the question, what does Neff got? What is Trav gonna be able to give you? Can he, can he summons it up one more time and give you what? Because he had a great. That was that the Texans. He had a game, but prior after that, that was not the Travis Kelsey we're used to seeing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, but, but also, you have to understand from a defensive perspective, when you, when you go into a game like that and you're playing the Chiefs defensively, you make your adjustments based on trying to stop 87.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How do we, how do we stop the Chiefs offense? Well, for one, you take away Patrick Mahomes number one target, number one weapon, that's Travis Kelsey. So obviously, with teams eyeing on him a little bit more than others now, you need other players to step up to the plate and show that they can also be dominant at a position and hurt you as well. Them moving Xavier Worthy around, put them in different positions to make plays. This Year you got a Hollywood Brown coming back acclimated into the system. He's healthy this year. Fast as hell. Hell. They got, they got a little mini 4x1 track team too over there now. No, they, they ain't no slouches. So I think they're not going to miss a beat offensively when Rasheed Rice does come back. That will make them that much better because it adds another weapon to Patrick Mahomes arsenal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the biggest thing is for them is that can they protect Mahomes. The offensive line has a problem.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Last year especially game, especially in that Philly game. It was, it was, it was part of the problem throughout the season last year and it happened in spurts. Mahomes running for his life. But obviously it came to a head when they played a defensive time like them goddamn Eagles and boy, oh man, that was, that was embarrassing. I, I feel, I feel, I feel bad. I, I feel bad for Pat. It seemed like soon as he got the ball, they was in his face.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they were. I mean we saw this before in Tampa when they played Tampa in the super bowl in Tampa. He didn't have time. And, and it doesn't matter. We saw this with Tom Brady with the Giants when you got you. We saw this with, with Manning against Seattle. It doesn't matter who you are.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Broncos.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, I'm against Broncos. Yeah, yeah, I was at that game. But he's, he accepted that they were looking to get the reports where they were looking for a whole season. The NFLPA like, nah, we're not gonna, we not. We can't drive with that. But he says, okay, six games. Let's let me go ahead and get this behind me so I can move forward. Move forward with my life and this season. So Rasheed Rice has accepted a six game suspension for violating the NFL personal conduct policy. Yeah. Michael Parsons. The Green Bay rumors were in full swing this morning with this picture surfaced of him at dfw. Well, Jane Slater reports Michael was just seeking a second opinion on his back.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Cowboys had Parsons undergoing MRI on his back Sunday, and coach Brian Schottenheimer said the results were pretty clean. If Parson's going to continue to hold in until he receives a contract extension, he'll need the doctor to sign off, his back tightness being too much to play through. What you think of Ojo?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I love the game, huh? For the love of the game, Jerry could play his, then Mikey could play his. It's all a game at the end of the day. You know how it goes. Oh, that's how you feel? Well, shoot this. How I feel my back hurt. I gotta get a second opinion so we can both play the same game. And I don't. I don't think Mike ain't gonna fold no time soon. You know, if anything, honestly, if I was him, I wouldn't play week one. I wouldn't play week one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're trying to gain some of that Emma Smith leverage.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. So you go out there, you're playing the Eagles. You need all hands on deck for one to be playing the defending super bowl champions, especially on the defensive side of the ball, your best player not playing. Okay, Jerry, you got your ego. You don't want to pay me, cool. Let's see what you do without me. And don't go out there. Week two and you play the Giants and you start the season. Oh, and two.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, no. It did. Listen to me. It adds a little pressure on Jerry. I gotta do something. I gotta do something. When you start out the whole 012, boy, listen, them fans over there, not that he cares or the media or the pundits piling on top of the Cowboys, you allow your ego to get away and you. Well, I don't. I don't. I don't think winning is. Winning is on the horizon. It's not his first thought when it comes to him being the owner. It's about lining the pockets and making as much as possible. So, I mean, you ain't one in 30 years, so it probably won't. It probably won't hurt. It won't hurt him until it hurts his pockets.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but you're gonna have to get a doctor to sign off, so he'll get a doctor's note, say, hey, tell him my back tight. I mean, it's hard because a lot of doctors like, hello, man, You. You. You got me put my credibility on the line. You got me put my credibility on the live, man. But Micah. So there's nothing to him going to Green Bay. It's just a rumor circulating he was in the airport, going to get a second opinion on his back. Jaguars rookie wide receiver quarterback Travis Hunter is ready to play both ways in Week 1 against the Panthers. Although Hunter was held out of some training camp practices and the final preseason game because of injury, Jaguar James Gladstone says Hunter is now full speed on the practice field. He's on the grass today, and he's rolling full speed. We expect him to be who we know him to be, and that's somebody that impacts both sides of the football. We can't wait to see that on Sundays and one Monday Night this season, man. How did you guys get a Monday night game? Who asked them for that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

How they get a Monday night game, boy? Brian Thomas Jr. Trevor Lawrence, ATN Again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How do they get a Monday night game?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With all those guys you just named how many games they win last year.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Think about that. They got box office. They got box office players that people want to see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jacksonville. Jacksonville who?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Jacksonville, the players people want to see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jacksonville.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Travis Hunter, box office. Brian Thomas Jr. Box office. Yeah, we wanna. I. I want to see that. We want to see that. We tune in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want. You want to see Papa Rod? You want to see Potter? Papa Rod at the Sydney Opera House or you want to see him in Jacksonville?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what? As long as he's singing, I'm paying for it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's a reason why. There's a reason why there are memorable events. The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show. There's Michael this at Wembley Stadium. There's a reason.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Talk to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Venues matter, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, talk to me. Let me tell you something. Venues matter, but when certain people are going to be there, I'm paying for it regardless. Beyonce. Hey, check me out. Beyonce, let's say at the Hard Rocker at the Hard Rock Stadium where the Dolphins play. Yeah, she gonna sell it out. Well, hella, Beyonce is a goddamn House of blues, which is small and only. Only sits 5,000. It's still gonna sell out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So when you have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Trevor Lawrence and Brian Thomas Jr. Ain't Beyonce.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know, but I'm trying to give you a little perspective.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. Yeah, because if I feel like. If I feel like the way I look at it, this is what I look at it. And you tell me what you think. If Beyonce goes to and performs at the House of Blues.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna feel that's more special because that's an intimate setting. That's not what she normally performs. She normally performs at arenas 85. Yeah, I'm just wanna. She performs somewhere at 5,000.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that's intimate.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I know. Beyonce. Oh, hey, man, where you going, man? Beyonce pulling the house. But how you get tickets? Don't worry about that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but see, so what does that tell you? So that means. That tells you that it's an intimate setting Monday night because of Brian Thomas Jr. And Travis Hunter. And the world wants to see it. I want to see it. So the NFL.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Understand. I will watch him on Sunday.

[Chad Ochocinco]

How do. How do we create these eyes?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think, I think it has more to do with Travis. Honestly. I think it has more to do with him potentially playing both ways, because normally, the one thing they always assured was you had to play a Thursday night game. Everybody had to play a Thursday night game or Thursday game. Thursday night. Thursday. Cowboys play. Cowboys normally play two. They normally play Thanksgiving, and then they probably play the following Thursday. With that being said.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, and don't you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm. I'm anxious to see.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What he looks like on both sides.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Don't jump on our bandwagon either.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Jaguars.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that's your team now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I'm saying. I'm saying I'm. My receivers. My receivers. Brian Thomas Jr, Travis Hunter. They're my people. They're my. They're my people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And. And. And then we might. We might win the AFC South.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So where Houston gonna go?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Texans.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Shoot. Area 29.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What's up?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Travis Hunter and. And his wife Lena. Hey, got some great news. They're just announced they're having a son. Hey, does fatherhood change your mentality on how you play the game and who you do it for?

[Chad Ochocinco]

A little bit, in a sense. Obviously, once you have a child, you want to play, and especially when the baby's so young. It's kind of different when the baby that young. You know, you just. Obviously, you keep the main thing. The main thing. And want to be able to provide, you know, for, say, a child. But my view in general on the game, obviously, with me having, you know, 374 kids, it really never changed. I just always kept the main thing, the main thing, and wanted to be great at my craft in general. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's dope, man. Did they have the baby or she pregnant.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She pregnant.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Yeah, that's dope. That's live. That's live. That's live.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I think the thing is, O Joe, for being like, hey, damn, I sure wish we could have had these in off season. It is what it is. But I. But I was very fortunate. My girlfriend at the time, she was like, hey, you got to go to work, right? Handle that. I got this.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Okay. Simple.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Congratulations. Trav and Leah and Liana.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's dope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

New parents married, new parents put his mind at ease, you know, Hey, I think there's something to be said for. For a guy that's married and get to come home if it's. If it's happy, you know, obviously, obviously, Ocho is married, a girlfriend, but not you bickering and going back and forth. You don't want to come home.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, that's rough. That's rough. That's rough. That's rough. Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They had the baby. Did they had the baby or they have the baby? Was she.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, they. Oh, they already had it. Oh, man, that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, okay. Okay. Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, so she was pregnant. So I guess he was pregnant. Welcome to. Welcome the baby boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, a baby boy. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I guess you. I guess she was pregnant when she got married.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, that's lie. Hey, hey, Trav. I know you're gonna see this, but hey, listen, Holl at your boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't know. I didn't. Because a lot, you know, a lot of. A lot of women don't want. Don't want to be. I want to be pregnant with nobody.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what I'm saying? They want. They want their wedding dress to be. They want that thing to be perfect. They try to be pregnant. But hey, congratulation. Well, congratulations on the birth of your first child. Travis and Liana, congratulations. Hopefully it's a healthy baby boy. Much success on the field and a happy home to you two guys.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And if you need. If you need Holl at your boy, you know, but I, I didn't, I didn't. Been there about 37 times. I got, I got a nursery program too, you know, about. You know, I got a nursing program for kids.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dang, Reggie. I aired that thing out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, hey, listen, it looked good, but I, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna question. Oh, I. I want to question the. The level of competition that I'm seeing here on film.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he ain't. No. They talk about he's the top ranked flag football in the country.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Not throwing underhand, you know, I want to see. I need to see the competition. I need to see him against some better competition. You know, them look like, you know, you know, Amazon drivers. You know, everybody. Everybody taking a break. They off work, and they out there just playing flag. But, you know, Ray John is an athlete. You can. You can play a little bit. Everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ojo Cracker Bar logo.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is back to its original. The Cracker Bar logo after a viral issue of the company being too woke.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If crack. Ocho. So if Cracker Bell go back to their old. You know, they had the guy on the. On the barrel. I think he's leaning on the rocking chair, right? He was in the rocking chair, leaning on the barrel.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if Cracker Barrels going back to their OG logo What NFL team should go back to their OG logo.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, that's a good one right there. The Bengals go back to the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all got the same logo.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Stay with me real quick, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they had the bingos. They didn't have the stripes. They had the bingoes written across the hill.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, go. Go back to that. And obviously, especially with the jerseys. With the jerseys. Go back. Remember the leaping tiger?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Tiger used to be the. The logo. Obviously, they went to the stripes, but I think the Leaping Tiger uniform, bringing those back would be really dope. When I think about old. Well, I mean, most teams, obviously, they have alternative uniform. I mean, alternate uniforms.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Which is. They. They already have their. Their old logo now. I think about it. What else? That's pretty much it. I like. I like the old Bengals uniforms. The leaping Tiger from back in the 80s and 90s outside that. When it went back to this Cracker Barrel thing. I'm confused. Why were people so upset about the logo? Was. Was it offensive or something?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, well, they. They changed it. So in other words, they just had Cracker Barrel. They had removed the man sitting in the rocking chair with his elbow on the drum. Excuse me. The bag.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I guess people that like Cracker Barrel said, hey, leave that alone. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Who. Who would that man harm?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on. So people complaining about the logo when the food is still the same. Have they ever had the Mama's breakfast? Have you ever had the mama's breakfast at Cracker Barrel? The pancakes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've had the pancakes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They don't care about. I don't care about no damn logo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is the food, but they do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you know they do, man. People so finished.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And look and don't try. Look, don't try to prove no point. Don't be like, you know, some companies want to prove a point and then, you know, you had. Take that. Lost the value. Had lost $143 million. I had read maybe even more. Just go back. Yes. Over a logo.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, people. It's funny what people find offensive pride in or. Or don't want to let go of the same thing some people feel about these Confederate monuments.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Put them back up right. Me look. Oh, oh, look like I give prime example. Like. Like, I guess the Aunt Jemima, Ms. Butterworth and all.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That was my girl. That was my girl, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It tastes. I mean, I would. I'm like, man, I ain't buying this, sir. Man, look at auntie. I don't. I ain't look at it. Like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, I ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't. Now, one time I go in the store and say, I'm not buying no Ms. Butterworth or I ain't buying no Aunt Jemima or that other stuff, because that's just me. Oh, yeah. I don't get too caught up in stuff like that. But hey, obviously some people do. And to each their own. To each their own. They wanted to make a big deal out of because it wasn't gonna stop me from going to Cracker Barrel if I'm hungry and I'm driving. Obviously. I don't think there's any cracker There any cracker bars in Vegas, Jordan?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah. Yeah, they know cracker barrels in Vegas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm saying if. Let's just say for the sake of argument, I can't remember, I haven't driven more than an hour and probably. Oh, my God, I don't know how long. But if I. Let's just say for the sake of argument, I'm in Atlanta and I was driving somewhere and like. And I wanted. And I got a taste for Cracker Barrel. I will stop by whether what a man where the logo. He demanded a rocket chair with his arm on a barrel or not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Listen, hey, I don't. Chad, I don't know if anybody in the chat, obviously, you know, I. I eat all the simpler, finer things in life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cracker Barrel right here along the biscuits and gravy. Good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm stopping, man, period. Man, that mama's breakfast. Two eggs, scrambled.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, what y' all say?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Side of sausage. I don't know. I don't know if it's the butter. I don't know if it's the. The batter in the pancakes or whether it's the syrup. That's so goddamn good. Man, stop playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, look. And stop going. Yeah, man. Cracker bell, bro, if you go to a place like that, you not going to eat no tofu. You going to eat sausage, pancakes, bacon. You going to eat waffles. You're going to eat biscuits and gravy. That's what you going for.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on, hold on. Speaking of biscuits, and you probably don't do it. I'm just saying what I do when I go to Cracker Barrel, I. You know, the syrup is all in the little container. Tell them, yeah, take the syrup, pour it in, warm it up, pour it in the little cup. Tell them to warm the syrup up, and you dip the biscuits in the syrup. You ain't never did that, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like biscuits and gravy. I like. Man, it's something about the biscuits and gravy, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That. Biscuits and syrup. Biscuits dip. Dip the biscuit in the syrup, man, before. Before your meal come.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like biscuits.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, biscuits. Dude, I ain't been to Cracker Barrel in a minute. I'm more of a hot. I'm more of an IHOP person.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I had been IHOP either. I mean, I've been going. I've been going. I've been. When I was in la, I was. I would. I would go to Denny's, but I like ihop. Used to go to the IHOP right up off Peach Street. They closed it down when I was coming up here. I'm. I'm a. I'm a breakfast person, though, Joe. I like grits and eggs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, me too. Me too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like gris and eggs with crispy bacon. I'm a grist. I'm a grist and egg. I'm a grist and eggs type of.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I got another place I got to take you to. I told you about. I crave, you know about their breakfast. I told you about Smith and Webster, but I got to take you to Just Spoons. Just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is that in Miami?

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's in Miami and for a lot of deal. Just. What you talking about? That's right. Right up your alley, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just right up my alley. Not right on my.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Just Spoons. Breakfast, huh? Anything you want. Anything you want under the soul. Under the soul food umbrella. And they give you so much food, man. Then one of this, one of them restaurants that they don't. They ain't stingy. They gonna give you what you're looking for. And you're gonna walk out of that food bricks, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nobody start grizz no more, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Would you. I. I just. I'm telling you. Hold on. Okay, Wait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What did I say? Damn. I. I hate. I got a couple way to Miami to get some grit. Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Where you at right now?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Texas.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, but listen, when you were you over there back on the West Coast. Where you at? Yeah, Ritz Cafe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I tell you, man, I'm not waiting in no damn line and have me standing outside that hot ass.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no, no. They know you coming. I'm telling you, go to Grits Cafe. And you saw you talk about grits and eggs and, and. And fish and catfish and pancakes, waffles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you like your eggs? Scramble, huh? Sunny side up, over medium, over easy. How you like? Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, I get my two eggs. Scramble. Scramble. Scramble. Yeah, and not. Not too hard. No Right, Right in the middle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I. I mean, it all depends. Sometimes I do over medium. Sometimes I do a scramble.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sometimes I do sunny side.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, sunny side. I don't like it running. I don't. I can't do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. I mean, normally if I get down, if I get a breakfast sandwich. Right. So when you bite it and that stuff.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah, nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, oh, we're not gonna go there. Oh, we, we too. It's too soon. Too soon. Next year. This time they give the time. Give me a year. I need a year. Need a year. Need a year. Just say it. Just say it. All right, Ocho, now it's time chat. It's time for one of your favorite segments. It's time for Ocho's spoken word.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, the spoken word. Spoken word. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Where my hat at?

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, where my hat with my hat from? Damn. I was supposed to have my hat. I was supposed to have my hat, but. Hey, chat. Y' all ready? Chad, if y' all can't see me, just snap your fingers for me real quick. Hey, where's the hat I bought in France? You know where it's at? Yeah, the one I had in France. Because I'm gonna do spoken word. Okay. All right. Don't worry about it. I gotta get in character.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Go ahead, get it ready. Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let me know you're ready. Chat. Y' all ready? Chat. All right. You ready, Unc?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm ready.

[Chad Ochocinco]

A chair is still a chair even when there's no one sitting there. Hold on. I'm in. I mean, I'm in my mold, baby. I'm in my mode.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't bother.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Throw it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let me. Let me. Let me get my hat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, here he is, ladies and gentlemen, with spoken word of the night, Mr. Le Pepe Ocho Cinco.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I gotta start over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Start over. Take your time now. Take your time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

A chair is still a chair even when there's no one sitting there. But a chair is not a house, and a house is not a home. When there's no one there to hold you at night and no one there you can kiss good night A room will always be a room even when there's nothing there but gloom But a room is not a house and a house is not a home but when the two of us are far apart and one of us has a broken heart now and then I can call your name and suddenly your face appears but it's just a crazy game when it ends in tears.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it, ladies and gentlemen, with spoken word of the evening.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Thank you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, all right, here it is. Your favorite segment is Spello Cinco.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let's go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The first word. This is the Type of cheese that you spread on spaghetti or lasagna is called parmesan. Parmesan.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, shoot. Well, that's a good one, dude. That's a good word to start off with because I don't, I don't. I never used Parmesan before, but I know about cheese, you know, I know you got this kind of cheese and you got other kind of cheese, but Parmesan. I'm gonna take a whiff. P a R M E S E a N. I might be wrong.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You are. P A R M E S A N Parmesan. He could be wrong. You are.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on, let me lock in. Let me lock.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, lock in, lock in. Don't you lock in.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's kind of hard. It's kind of. It's kind of hard for my mind, for my being doing spoken word and being locked in and focused.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. And be able to transfer it and go. Yeah, yeah. Because you think of. You think of things that go together, right? And then you got to refocus and take that and get rid of that creative side. And now just get to the side that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, right to a two different lane, two whole, two totally different lanes. So allow me to adjust.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho. This is a large, thick skinned, semi aquatic African mammal with massive jaws and large tusks. He's referred to in Africa as the river horse. Oh, it's a hippopotamus.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, that's a good one too. That's a good one. Listen, this is. This is a good one. So hippopotamus. H I P o P a T a m U s.

[Shannon Sharpe]

H I p P o P o t a m u s Hippopotamus.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wait, is that not what I just said?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's not what you just said. But this one is an easy one. Okay, this one, you don't. You got to get this one. This is a predatory myriad pod invertebrate with a flattened elongated body composed of many segments. It's called a centipede.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, this is a good one because I used to play. I used to play the game Centipede back in the 80s. Long time ago. I know you remember that game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do remember.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Everybody age group in here but Centipede. C E N T I P E D e Centipede.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That is correct. C E N T I P E Centipede.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Stop playing. This is what I do. I'm telling you. 1987. 1980 spelling beat champ, Charles Halle Park. Let's go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Demonstrate demonstrating or implying an undiscriminating or unselective approach. Indiscriminate or casual? Promiscuous.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, promiscuous. Promiscuous. Listen, I went to the prom before, and I know promiscuous starts with P, R O, M. Okay? I S, C, O. Oh, shit. Promiscuous. P R, O, M I, P R, O, M I, C, Q, S. C U, O, U, S.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. Thank you. What'd you say? It. Spell it again. PR the last part.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Promiscuous. P R, O, M I, C, Q.

[Shannon Sharpe]

U, O, U, S. You left the S out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said S, P, R, O, M I s. C, U, O, U, S.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's what I said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Promiscuous.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Promiscuous.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We have to go back and check.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Come on, come on. That's two. I got two. Right? Let's go chat. Let's go, let's go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The last one is a person qualified to treat diseased or injured animals. Veterinarian.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Wait. Veterinarian. That's what I wanted to be growing up. I wanted to be a veterinarian. I wanted to be a marine biologist. Veterinarian. Okay, here we go. Veterinarian. V, E, T, N E R I a N. Veterinarian.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What'd you just spell?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Veterinarian.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Spell it again.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Veterinarian. V, E, T. We're back there laughing. Ash.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jordan. Oh, Jordan said you spell Venetian. Not in Vegas.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I. No. Veterinarian. You ready?

[Shannon Sharpe]

V. Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

E, N, A, R, I a N. Veterinarian.

[Shannon Sharpe]

V, E, T, E R I N a R, I a N. Veterinarian.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right. Lastly. Okay. What now? It's time for dunk on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Unk. Okay. God damn. Okay. Okay. That wasn't that bad. That wasn't that bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, Ocho, what we got?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You ready?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. This is Lions edition.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Lions edition. Lions edition.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let me know. You ready. All right. Chat, please. No answers in the chat. No answers in the chat. Chat, please.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No answers in the chat. No answers in the chat. Here we go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Where did the Detroit Lions play their first ever game? Where did the Detroit Lions play their first ever game?

[Leonard Williams]

Oh, my goodness.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I was there. I was there too, so it should be an easy answer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They didn't play it at Silver Dome. This was because that wouldn't even thought about being built. Tiger Stadium.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Tiger Stadium. That answer is incorrect. The answer you were looking for is the University of Detroit Stadium. The game was played on September 23, 1934. I sat in the second row. The Lions beat the New York Giants, 9090.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I never got that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. You're not gonna get this one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You could have gave me multiple choice. I would have got that one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You ain't gonna get this one, either. Here we go. Who was the first Lions player ever to win the NFC Defensive Player of the Week award? Ever to win an NFC Defensive Player of the Week Award?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my goodness. Pat Swillings.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Pat Swillings. That's a good answer. That's a good try, but it's not Pallox. Pat Swillings. The answer you were looking for was Michael Kofer. Michael Kofer won the award in week eight in the 1984 season. Yes, yes, yes. I was there for that, too. Now, this. This will be a little bit more updated for you, so you shouldn't get this wrong. I'm throwing you a bone here. In 2003, jersey number three was worn by whom? I'm throwing you a bone here just to give you one. To get you. To get you acclimated to getting one right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

John Kitten. I don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That is absolutely wrong. The fact that you don't know this lets me know you don't know football the way I do. The jersey number three in Detroit was won by none other than Oregon, Joey Harrington. Joey Harrington, who had drafted third overall by the Detroit Lions in 2000.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't believe I missed that one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, you should have. You should have known that one. Here we go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I feel it. Ojo. Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know. I know how you feel. I know how you feel. The Lions missed out on all of the first 37 Super Bowls during that span. How many times did they appear in the NFC Championship game?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The first 37.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The Lions missed out on all the first 37 Super Bowls during that span. How many times did they appear in the NFC Championship Game? And I help you out?

[Shannon Sharpe]

One. 1991. They. Yeah, 91.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, you are. You are correct. 1991 season, they lost 4110 to the Washington.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They love the Washington rest.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Commander.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They were the. They were the team. That team. But they're now the commanders. Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Actually, they beat the Cowboys to advance to the NFC Championship.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I was there for that game. Jersey number 37 was worn by which Detroit line during the 1955 season. It should be easy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my God.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It should be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It ain't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He has a college board named after him. It should be easy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He has a college.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What award named after him? I'm throwing you a bone because I want you to get. I want you to get more than one. Right? I'm throwing you a bone. Jersey number 37 was worn by which Detroit lion during the 1955 season. And there is a collegiate award named after this individual.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bronco Nagursky.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, the answer you were looking for was Doak Walker. Doak won the Heisman Trophy in 1948 out of Southern Methodist University.

[Shannon Sharpe]

S of you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you got one right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We tied again, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I won. What are you talking about? I won. Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me. I. I gotta say. We gotta pull the tape.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Come on. They don't start. They don't start cheating. Don't cheat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I gotta pull the tape. I just want y' all to know I'm playing. I'm. I'm playing this one under protest.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Don't cheat me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm playing on the protest.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You can't. You can't cheat greatness. You can't cheat. The fact that I had. The fact that I had to transition and go from spoken word, which was well thought out. Well thought and then transition into spelling is very difficult. Very, very difficult.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The last segment of the evening is time for Q and A. Oh, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I feel good tonight, boys. No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kimber Norwood, Jr. My question is, Ocho. If the Bengals make it to the super bowl, who would the nfc. Who would the NFC team be playing? Who would the NFC team be they're playing against? And what's the score?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, that's. That's a good question. I think it's our time. I think this year is our year. And the team they would probably. Probably play would probably be the Eagles. Would probably be Eagles. I think the Eagles are the strongest NFC team from top to bottom on both sides of the ball. So that's a dream of mine. I like that. So Bengals, Eagles, Super Bowl, San Francisco. I'll see you there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then. 212-100-nightcap. I know it's way too early, but who do you guys have going to the Super Bowl?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I just told. Now I know they just heard me say the Bengals and the Eagles gonna be in the Super Bowl.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess I can take one of my two teams. I can take the Ravens or the Broncos.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ravens or the Broncos. It might be playing each other for the AFC Championship Game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now you just heard me tell him who the AFC team was going to be in the Super Bowl. So we had.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That ain't happening. That ain't happening. That's not happening. You know what?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're gonna say that we're gonna make our picks. We'll make our picks on Monday. Not Wednesday. Next Wednesday, because the. The game is next Thursday. So we're gonna make our picks next Wednesday before the game. Dr. Frank F. Bellamy. Hey, fam. Unc. Do you think Michael Irving could be a guest one night and help defend my Cowboys? Ocho, would you have been a referee? Because with all the energy and testosterone between you. Mike somebody liable to pass out. Yes, we can have Mike on. Mike is a very good friend of mine. He's a. He's a great guy. Yeah, we'll get him on. I. I will do that. I will get him on one night. Og underscore Thanos. Who's under more pressure to reach the Super Bowl, Ravens or the Bills? Which is heavier, turn of bricks or a ton of feathers?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They weigh the same. They're both. Because now you got MVP winning quarterbacks. Your team is back healthy. You've upgraded. You got Cook back. You upgraded with Johnston at wide receiver. Shaquille Shakira is back. Hey, and Ravens. Ravens got no excuse. The Ravens have absolutely no excuse. Rock Surge. Would you ever interview Richard Hart? He's a billionaire that created four projects on Blockchain, Hex, Pulsechain, Pulse X and his sinus token. He also defeated the SEC recently. I have no earthly idea who that is. You know who that is. I don't even know if my audience would know who he is, but I might need to do some research on him. If he creating all them projects, maybe I can create me something. See how he did it. Jay Breezy, do you think the Saints are tanking for Archie? We have zero quarterback to stand behind and so many other missing pieces. As a lifelong Saints fan, I'm hoping it doesn't take a decade to get the get a team going. No, I don't think they're going to take. They're going with Spencer Rattler. Mr. Rattler. They opened it up. He and Shook, they battled it out. They feel more comfortable. Kelly Moore feels very comfortable with Spencer Rattler at the helm. We'll see how long he can keep him off. I don't think he has a short leash. I think Kellen Moore understands that to play that position, you can't play it with someone looking over your shoulder. So I expect him to. To not make a decision based on booze, based on what's being written in the paper, because he understands that's a very difficult position to play and you still have a young quarterback. So I don't think they're tanking for Archie Manning. Well, yeah, Arch Manning. I don't think they're tanking for him, bro. Can Y' all see if the guy can play. Damn. Y' all will let the man play. Damn. Let it play. Before we start talking about first, I'm on overall pick Daryl. Nick is Uncle Nocho. I got my LLC going last week. Plus I'll be starting my own sports podcast inspired by you guys. It will be bilingual. Any advice? Also, I got limited edition cognac three days ago. Well, Daryl, thank you very much. I really appreciate that. Bilingual sports podcast. Just be you. Be authentic. People want to. People want to hear authenticity. They don't want to feel like it's watered down. That's why they go direct to you. So there's direct from you to the consumer. And so it's not a. A this or that. That. Well, he can't say that because they're going to get mad at him. It's your platform. You can say whatever you want. So just be you. That's the only thing you can be. Nobody else can be, Daryl. Only you can. How great can Chris Henry Jr. Number one receiver from Mataday, and Jeremiah Smith be together at Ohio State next year?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's gonna be nice, boy. Gonna be nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jeremiah Smith. Jeremiah Smith had an NFL body as a true freshman.

[Chad Ochocinco]

A nice little squad over there, but, man, Chris Henry Jr. I saw Matter. They was on. They was on TV on ESPN.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Didn't it be St. Thomas Aquinas?

[Chad Ochocinco]

And Chris Henry Jr. Went off, right? Man, he went crazy out there, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Zachariah Harris said, oh, give Ocho one more word. If he gets it wrong, he eats it. He eats the viral egg live. What is that?

[Chad Ochocinco]

A what? I mean, acting like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Stuff I don't know nothing about, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It ain't nothing I won't eat, so I'm sure that's right. That's not even.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we know that, Junior. Underscore. Cool cat. What's up, Uncle? No, Cho just had to put my dog down earlier. He was my baby boy. What's some advice you have for during this grieving time, bro? I ain't got no advice, bro, that they hurt. I ain't gonna lie to you. You never gonna get over it. You're just gonna get better at dealing with it. Man, I pain, boy. Hey, even though. And the thing is that, like, once you make a decision to put the dog down and you realize that you're only keeping the dog alive for you and not for it. Cause it's suffering, man. I heard even worse, man. Man, you talk about hurt. Oh, there it is right there. A balut egg is a fertilized Duck egg embryo, popular in the Philippines and other parts of Southeast Asia. That is boiled or steamed and eaten from a small shell. From the shell, the process involves sipping the savory broth around the developing chick before eating the yolk and the embryo with the. Nah. Yeah. Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That ain't nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't gonna do that ain't nothing. Can you see it?

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I can't see it, but ain't that ain't nothing. All I heard is embryo and sucking. I'm good, I got it. I'm good. That ain't nothing. Listen, I've been around the world and, and had delicacy delicacies from all cultures. Frog legs, chocolate covered ants. I mean, what's that? What's that? That's. That's nothing. Yeah, I thought it was some type of challenge. That ain't nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And I swallowed that hole. I ain't sipping nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we next year, this time we have a very interesting conversation that concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for joining us. I have your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host, Liberty City Zone Bingo's ring of fame honoree, Madden. Ratings adjusted. The pro bowler, the all Pro, he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure y' all hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you that listened tonight and all the other nights that you listen. Thank you for your support and your continued support. Make sure you check out my Shave a Laportier. We have it in stock. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. The best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. I also did a limited edition release of my brother. It's a commemorative pack with him and I. We're the first brothers in the Pro Football hall of Fame. And I want to do something to honor him. And this was my way of honoring my brother. So this is a limited edition. Make sure you get yours while supplies last because once they're gone, they're gone. So if you want to order a bottle, just head over to laportier.com to grab yours. Please make sure you follow my media company page on all of his platforms. That's Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out. That link is also pinned in the chat. We want to thank our very special guest, All Pro safety from the Detroit Lions, Kirby Joseph and Pro bowl defensive tackle from the Seattle Seahawks, Leonard Williams. I am up. He's oo. We're off tomorrow, but we're back Friday.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh hey, off tomorrow, back Friday. Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Don't Texas and Ohio State play Friday?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I think Georgia Tech. Is it Georgia Tech in. In Colorado, but we back. Yeah. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. We back Friday. So we back Friday. Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All right, Peace.

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