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Hello, Malcolm Glabel here. We're here in New York City with T Mobile for Business recording another episode of Revisionist history about how 5G network slicing strengthens trust and connections across worldwide industries. Slicing can be used for so many different things. We're here with our friends from CNN from Siemens Energy. The ways that it can be used, frankly are limitless and are really, really built to think through. How can T Mobile understand the pain points that our customers have? Smash those pain points and help you deliver very specific outcomes Insurance may all seem the same on the surface, but having insurance isn't the same as having State Farm as the leading auto and homeowners insurer in the US State Farm is there how and where you need them. Whether that's in person, with a local State Farm agent, on the phone, online or through their mobile app, State Farm can help you find the right coverage for your needs. 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Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete Disclosures available at public.comDisclosures you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap Radio Row Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite aunt and this is my partner and co host, the Liberty City Legend, the Bingo Ring of Fame honoree, a former Pro Bowler and an All Pro that is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Again, thank you guys for joining us early this morning. We know it's not our normal time, but you guess what? We're going to still give you the same great show that we would at night. How you feeling, Ocho? I'm feeling good. Long our flight? Six hours. I got a little bit of sleep tonight. I perused the city a little bit last night. It was dark. I wasn't able to see much. But I'm happy to be here. I'm glad to be under one roof because now we get to see some of the former players, some of the current players and the media members that talked trash about us when we were playing. So I, I, I, I get to extend them graciousness, you know, after all these years. All right, without further ado, we got our first guy coming to the stage. Well, coming to the seat, really not a stage. He's Kev on stage. Kev, how you doing, bro? Good to see you. What's up, baby? You good? Have a seat. Appreciate y' all for having me, man. Definitely. Thank you for coming. Pull your back up, so make sure we get the levels right. There we go. Yeah. You know, you, you're not, you, you're not new to this. No, I ain't new to this. I ain't new to this. So, Kev, listen, let me ask you this. Yeah. Everybody know you do your individual stuff, but lately you've been a lot. Doing a lot of stuff with. With Tony. Tony Baker. Yeah, Tony Baker. And I was. I'm interested. What type of comedian are you? Are you a musical comedian? Are you a social comedian? What type of comedian are you? I mean, I think I'm multiverse. Okay. I think I love physical comedy. I'm, I'm not ashamed to put my shirt up, you know, if that gets a laugh. I'm not ashamed to do an act out. I get a lot of my comedy from Arnes J. Yes. I don't know if y' all know Arne would kick his leg up, man, do every ye and do anything to get you to laugh. So I think my style plays well with Tony's style, you know, because he's. Tony can make you laugh with just a Facebook trick, just a sound like his whole body is the joke. So I think we work well together because of that. The fact that you are multiverse in some of the things you do. When it comes to making jokes, do you ever get pushback sometimes with some of the stuff you do that may offend people? Oh, absolutely. The Thing is, everything's funny to somebody except the person who's the subject. So I do a lot of church stuff, right. If. If that person's pastor falls, it's funny. If my pastor falls, that's the man of God, and that ain't funny. And God will not be mine. Right. So it's like, you know, comedy inherently is offensive. The subject of the joke will always be mad about it. So I just try not to be rude. I try to be, you know, and also as my manor. Yeah. I want to be able to. If I see you in the streets, it's like, nah, you had to get me care, but you ain't had to go that hard. I'd rather be that than like, I never try to be malicious because I've been on the end of somebody going crazy on me and it's like, God, man, okay, Like, I take my last. I got to go crazy on me. You know, the fact. The fact that you said, my bad. The fact that you did just say that. Now I'm curious. What did you think about the Drew ski skit and how mega, mega churches pastors act? You know what's funny about that? We had to take them lumps, right? Because Drewski, to me, he is absolutely a comedian, but he's a cultural anthropologist. Yes. If he doesn't have that information to pull from. Right. That joke is like, well, what is that? I don't. That's never happened. Okay. I saw those videos. Did he have that jacket? Did he have the Christian Louis? He didn't have that jacket. No. The preacher didn't have that on. That was. If. If you talk about Mike Todd, they put that together. I never saw him wear that. I think AI did that. Right. But there be people wearing designer drip down. So it's like, I know pastors who came from the, you know, ceiling on the zip line. There's the. I ain't never seen smoke that way. But there's also. You go a little farther, but there's absolutely production value. You know what I'm saying? And some of them churches, they be having drummers in the rafters. Like, he pulling from the material. He saw it from somewhere and he does it to everybody. It was just our turn. The OGs was mad when he did that. The Q's was mad. We went at them. The white people was mad when he went at them. Everybody's mad when it's their turn. I think the thing is what a comedian does. And I've talked to a. And you know, Kev, I've had a lot of comedians on my show, and they say what we do is we take real event and we make them funny. Sometimes they're about things we see, sometimes they're about things that happen to us. Us, absolutely. But what we do, we, in turn, we make those things funny. Yeah. Like you said, he had to have seen a production somewhere in a mega church in order for him to draw from this, because he's just not coming out of this. Out of thin. 1000%. There was a pastor in Brooklyn who was dripped down every Sunday. He apparently stole somebody's money in the Gucci. In the Gucci. It's not. I covered all this on my podcast. Like, he ain't pulling from nowhere. So I think if you got to be mad, you got to be mad at the source material, not the person who's holding the mirror up to the source material. And. But we've heard them close the door. We go, hey, $10,000. God said, give you a blessing. You give me $10,000. So what are we supposed to do with that? It used to. When. When did the church start going into prosperity? They started preaching prosperity, and I'm not so sure that's the word of God, but go ahead. I'm telling you, I've been in church my whole life. 40 years, 42 years, 45 years. I just want to step in, dog. Well, you blocking my camera. Stand on this side. Yeah, your camera? Yeah, that's the camera right there. We go. Get it. Come on. Go ahead. Go ahead, Finish up. Yeah. I think prosperity gospel has been preached since the early 90s. People have been mad since early 90s. Reverend Ike did it. Yeah. Who? Reverend Ike. You remember Reverend Ike? I remember Reverend Ike. Reverend Ike said, don't put change in the pan. God don't like, like noise. The prayer clause. You don't remember the prayer clause? Peter pop off like, give his wagon. Rex Humbar. Yes. Let me stop. No, it's true, it's true. But sometimes people need hope. Right? And I think sometimes you're speaking to people who need something, and you. You. You want to activate that in them. So I don't think it's inherently wrong, but from the outside looking in, if you don't understand that, it's like what y' all talking about. Right? You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I think it's. I think it's more of that. Do you think comedy is getting back because you remember back like when. When prior started and there was no host barred. No, there was nothing that everything was over fake. Yeah. It didn't matter if you was in the wheel. They would make. They would. They would highlight that. Yeah. And. And it kind of got away from that because we got correct and maybe we over corrected. Yeah. Maybe the pendulum swung too far one way because you know, you know what happened. Yeah. It's kind of like in 2008, they say the pendulum swung too far to the left. And so now in 2016, we gotta swing all the way to the right. And so instead of being somewhere in the middle, we've gone too far. And now you see that situation where we're kind of getting back. Comedy is always reflective of society. It's always fluid of society. Comedians are always pushing the line. I don't think comedy ever really got away. I think those risque comedians always worked. People just had to go find them. You know, the Internet just made it instant. Yeah. Right. Back in the day, you have a joke that's out of style, out of touch, you just stop saying it. Right. But now the Internet's like, they said this joke. Here's the video of it. Well, that's 2016. I don't do that joke no more. But I think there's. The pendulum always swings the same way. Wrestling is reflective of society. Stuff that they got away with in the 90s. They was like, okay, we can't really do that no more. And now you can try it again. Comedy is the same way. You know what I also think about? I think about some of the old sitcoms of the days, the Good Times, the All in the Family. Yeah. If I think comedy can get back in a great space, I would love to make the moniker make comedy great again, where we don't worry about what people think, we don't worry about how people feel. One of the few comedians that I think really doesn't care about backlash that's able to get away with it is Dave Chappelle. Yeah. He's one of the few. And I think if we can get all comedians that cater to their strict fan base and not worried about what everybody else thinks, I think at that moment and at that time, comedy. Comedy will be once great again. Right, right. I think comedy. I think that happens all the time, though. Right. I think there's always a political comedian that goes too far. White House Correspondent Dinner, for example. Yeah. There's always somebody who's political. Josh Johnson, who can. Who can weave that line. Then there's Ryan Davis who's just really cerebral or really funny. And then there's people like me who just be Silly Tony make you think, like, I think there's all these different types. I think comedy, like music has different genres, different people, and you can kind of pick what you want to pick and feel how you want to feel based on what mood you're in. Yeah. Thank you. On stage. Make sure you check him out. All right, baby. Oh, gee, appreciate you. Give me what you call them. Give me ig, anything. Kevin on stage. Follow me on Kevin stage. Any platform you're on, I'm on there under Kevin on stage. Appreciate you, bro. Thank you, man. Appreciate y'. All. Kev, on stage, ladies and gentlemen. Very funny, man. Make sure you check him out. Normally you'll see him with Tony Baker, but he does does his own thing and he's exceptional. He's exceptional. Come on in, Trey. Oh, you just sitting in, huh? Yeah, have a seat. Trey. What's up, bro? What's up, little man? What's up, dog? Have a seat. This is two time Super bowl champ, two time Pro Bowler. 24, 25. In February of 25, he signed a four year contract for $94 million, making him the highest paid guard. You got money in NFL history, Trey. You look, this was a down year for y'. All. You, a lot of injuries. You got hurt, Pat got hurt. You started the season without Rasheed. Then guys were in and out of the lineup. But you know the expectations. When you had the level of success that you've enjoyed over the last seven years, this was an unacceptable season. What do you guys need to do to say, you know what, the Chiefs are back. We really never left and went anywhere, but we're definitely back. Yeah, man. I mean, since I was a rookie, the day I walked in, man, we had a standard, you know what I mean? And obviously we fell well short of the standard this year. And I can speak for myself in terms of accountability, man. Just being more detail oriented, being very consistent, you know, I mean, approaching the game better. You know, as players, we got to make what our coaches call go regardless of situation, regardless of circumstance. And for us, I think it really comes with accountability and being detail oriented when you look at a situation. Because sometimes when you have such success and you have a guy like Patrick Mahomes, you feel that he can cover up for a lot of mistakes. No matter where offensive guard with, oh, Pat got that guy runs the wrong ride or have an M8 pack, can have a bad call, Pat can overcome that. But at some point in time, those mistakes when compounded because you get a guy that will. You get a guy that makes Another mistake compounded with a bad call that's even too much for Patrick Mahomes to overcome. So how do you make sure you get back? Because he's coming off a very serious injury. You lost mistimed the entire like seven, eight games. So how do you make sure the Kansas City Chiefs that when we in the situation next year when we're in la, there's a great chance we see the steeps. The thing, it just starts in the offseason, man. Early as OTAs, you build that team chemistry early. You know, we bring in new guys, you draft free agents, whatever you have it. And just making sure we're all on the same page as a team. You got a guy like Eric B. Coming in. Obviously Coach Reed, man, like, he lets us be men out there. Right? Right. But at the same breath, man, we have to be more accountable for ourselves with that freedom, with that respect that he's given us. So for us, man, it's a standard, you know, getting back to that standard, being right, man, like you said, Pat's coming off an injury. I know he's going to attack what, everything he has, because that's who he is as a competitor, man. So just being the best version of ourselves that we can be because we have to uphold that standard that we keep talking about. We have to finish better, we have to be a better team, we have to get back to the winning ways. Matter of fact, if you were gm, take your football hat off right now. You're not the player, you're not the guard, you're not the one that makes 94 million. Yeah, but you're rich, boy. But you put your GM hat on. Yeah. And you coming into this season knowing Pat is coming off an injury. Yeah. What would you do offensively to make sure that Pat doesn't have to burden the load of the success when there are weaknesses in that offense, what would you do? Yeah, man. I mean, man, it's hard. I'm not a gm, man. Yeah. I don't like speaking on it, but for me, man, I think, you know, Fran has offensive line, but we have to do a better job, you know, keeping him protected. Like you said, come off injury once again, making sure he feels calm, that he can operate and be who he is. Patrick Mahomes. And you know, at the end of the day, man, I really think identifying as players once again, I can only speak to myself. Just being more detailed accountability, just being really in tune with what we're doing every single time we go out there. So we don't Stall. We don't have these awkward moments where someone's running the wrong way, like you said, like, you know, someone's whiffing on a play. Like, how can we be better to set him up? We have one of the best to ever do it. Because you have times you guys go up and down the field and it's like, this is the Kansas City. And then you go 2, 3/4 and you're like, who the hell is this team? How is that arguably one. That's the greatest quarterback currently playing. You can make a case he's a top five quarterback and he's only seven, eight years into his career. What happened to this offense? Who are they? Yeah, and I know you feel that way because you're there. You've seen it at its highest. Yeah. When you guys can do no wrong. Yeah. Yeah, man. I mean, that's just the ebbs and flows of the game, though. You know, at the end of the day, man, you're not going to be that dominant, consistent factor every single year. Yes, you might have a down year, you might have a down, tumultuous time, but, you know, it's just about getting back to the winning ways. Like I said, getting back to the standard is the secret to the sauce, Right? What is the standard? Being consistent, being accurate, being detail oriented. Once we get back to those ways, man. And how do you do that? You go to work every single day and you fix something one single time, one rep at a time, you just continually get better. And that's all you can do as a player, man. Is that where EB Comes in? Because EB Was the accountability officer. I know E. E was the accountability. E. Don't care who you are. He don't care what your title is. How many promos all pro. If you effed up, yeah, he going to let you know. Did you F up? Did you ever tell me what you did? And the funny thing about it, you know why everybody's always up in arms? Because the Chiefs have sustained consistent success for so long and you make it look so goddamn easy from the outside looking in those that play the game, we understand how difficult it is. We understand how special Andy Reid in that situation he has with Patrick Mahomes, with Pat Mahomes is. And the fact that when you guys have a down season, they're like, oh, my goodness, what happened? And all it is is back going back to the basics. Going back to the drawing board, as you said, is off the line, having accountability, trying to minimize the mistakes you make. So Pat Mahomes can function the way he does as one of the better quarterbacks of the. In the history of the NFL. Not just now. Yeah, man. Yeah. Y' all gonna be all right, though. Y' all gonna be dog. Man, just take it one time at a time, man. Trey, heal up. Yes, sir. You know what the expectations are. I already know. You know. Hey, I already hear you be screaming sp right now. Yeah. Hey, also, let. Let Eric be me know if. If y' all need an. An offensive coordinator assistant. Uhhuh. Or wide receiver coach assistant. Yeah, I'm here. I already got on red. Yeah, let me know. Congratulations. Getting healthy, bro. Look forward to seeing you back out there. Well, good to see you. What's up, bro? Have us joining us right now is a 2022 4th round pick from Nevada. 2025. He had 55 receptions, 724 yards and 6 touchdowns. He is an unrestricted free agent this offseason. He is Romeo Dobbs. Romeo, how you doing, bro? What's up, guys? Man, I'm good, man. I'm blessed, I'm breathing walking. All the little goodies, man. That's all I need. I got a question. Why you keep wearing that ugly ass guardian cap? Hey, yo. Hey. Look like you like I'm better. Better safe than sorry, man. I got you. I got you. Listen, unrestricted free agent, right? Yeah. What you've done for the packers, every time we turn, every time we watch a packers game, it's 87, cutting up. You are the safety valve. You. You are the. What's the word? I want to look for the outlet for brother Jordan. Love. Yes, sir. What do you want to do, man? I want to go back. I want to go back. And I love Green Bay. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? I love the structure. I love the coaching staff. I love how they go about things, man. And you know the rest. I'm going to just leave that unknown because I know, you know, I'm new to this game. I don't know what to expect. But I am aware of this business. I understand the situation in our room and what's going on, man. So, yeah, that's pretty much all I got with this business. I'm not blind, I'm not Ray Charles. But I understand your value. You understand your value. I know what you deserve. I know what you can get there, and I know what you can get elsewhere. Yes, sir. I'mma leave it at that because I don't want to get you in no trouble saying the wrong things. But go ahead. Yeah, Romeo. You guys in the division game, you, you went off, you had eight for a buck 24. You get out to that great lead. What happened? How did you let that game get away from you guys? Look, man, I'm still questioning that now, you know, and you know, we all know it's not easy losing in this league, especially in games like that. But to be very optimistic about this, it was very clear that Chicago had the better game plan. You know what I'm saying? The energy was right. Whatever they had going on, they were aligned. And there's absolutely nothing I can do at this point. You know, kudos to them. And again, that just gives me an opportunity to review that. Not even just that game, but just throughout the course of the year and just build off that moving forward, man. That's all. You know what? It wasn't so much the last game because you did lose the final game of the season. And different than a playoff game is different than a regular season game because there's finality to it. But you lost your last four regular season games. So it wasn't like you were going into the playoffs on a high note. What transpired over the last quarter of the season that you like, you got kind of got away from you guys? I don't know. I don't know. I really, I really don't know. And I know there is some answers that must be said right now. Yes, sir. But yeah, man, I have no idea what went wrong, but it was very clear that to lose like that something went wrong. And again, I'm in the midst of. You know what I mean, still trying to figure that out. I'm trying to deal with. There was a lot of last off season, Josh Jacobs talking about the receiver room. Say we need a number one, we need a dog. They got one. And I'm sure you and Christian Watson and some of those other guys and Reed, y' all didn't take too kindly. What you mean we need a number one? What you mean we need a dog? You don't see us every day. Look, man, I love Josh. I was just rapping with him, you know what I'm saying? Just before we took off. But again, man, it's just, you know, just. It's the situation, bro, like lose like that. Yeah, it's just support for the show comes from public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On public, you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI, it all starts with your prompt from renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year. 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Because I know when something is said like that, it is very easy to take it that way. Correct. Right. So, you know, I never really. And again, I know what's. In the past days in the past. I've never been. I never spoke to him about that. All we did was have great practices together, watch some tape together, go out, go bowling, whatever the case may be, bro. But that is not a lane you want to create. So I'm doing. I got a question. Because, I mean, you answering, obviously you want to be careful. You want to be PC. You don't want to piss anybody off. Especially during the time that you're in. You're in a special place where potential employer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So do you want to go back? You had an Instagram post that almost. It was deemed like, almost like a farewell to Green Bay. If you had it your way, would you love to go back to a team like the packers where any given Sunday, you don't know who day it's going to be? Or would you like to go somewhere where you could be the dominant number one receiver and you know that offense runs directly through you? That's a great question, bro. If I'm being honest. Talking to love, man. Take your time. Yeah. Being around them guys, bro. Yeah. I would love to be around them. I would love. I would love to be around them. Yes, sir. And it's Just the. It was just the foundation that I feel like we set in that room. Like, you know, we come in as young guys. You know what I mean? And not only did we understand that the situation was very unusual. Like, you get into a league. You get into the league, right? Yes. You got to get a guy like Stephan De. You got to get a guy like yourself. Yes. For you, that. You know what I'm saying, Went through those ropes. But when you get year one, year two, year three, guys all together, growing together, I think there's beauty in that, bro. Yes. Yeah. But you know how this thing work. Yes, sir. There's a pie. Yes, sir. There's only so many slices in that pie. No matter. No matter how delicious that pie is. Yes. Yes. There's only so many slices to go around. And somebody eat. If you want to. You might get a little small piece, or you might get a big piece, or I might have to leave and get the piece that I earned. That I've earned based on what I've done in this league over the last three, four, five years. Yes, sir. Yeah. And you deserve. I know you don't want to say it. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna talk for you. I'm gonna be your mouthpiece. You deserve the biggest piece of that pie because I understand what you can and can't. What you can and can't do. And obviously, there ain't no goddamn can't, because I've watched you over the years. I understand the value of that you bring to the Packers. I understand the value that you bring to another team if you're afforded opportunity to go somewhere else. Yes, sir. Since you don't want to say it, I say it for you. And I appreciate you. You that. My bad. But I will say this. All right. No, we. Good, man. Way to be authentic, bro. Yeah. I will say this. I would like to see a little bit of concentration, because I've seen you make some. How the hell he catch that? And then they throw you a smoke rod and you drop it. I just need to see that concentration. Concentration level, because I know it's there because I've seen you make the plays game in and game out, and I've seen you go stretches where you have three, four, five games, and I was like, okay, this guy's trending. He's a top 10 receiver, and then I'll see you. You drop a routine stuff, and it seems to. It seems to carry over. It's like, you drop one, and you don't let it Go. It's like you still thinking about that play, the next play. And I would like to see you move past that. Yeah. To reach that ultimate goal. Because that's what the great ones can do. They can make a mistake, they can drop a pass and it's over just like that. And I appreciate that. That is very much noted. Very much noted. So, Romeo, Green Bay packers wide receiver. We don't know for how much longer, but he says he wants to return. He had an unbelievable season. His best season thus far as a pro. He finished the year. Hold on. When we get back, get back to his numbers. Who's our owner? Eight. Eight for 124. They're publicly true. That's a. A bunch of owners, the fans. Eight catches for a buck 24 and a touchdown. That was in the. The. The wild card round. 55 catches, 724 yards and six touchdowns. When he's having to divvy up a lot of plays, a lot of. A lot of routes to other receivers. But, bro, great season. Yes. Keep your head up no matter what. Don't fall in love with a destination. Yes, sir. Don't fall in love with a destination. Yes. They'll use that against you. Oh, yeah. They'll use that against y'. All. Don't fall in love with a destination, man. No. So appreciate you, Romeo. Thank you, man. Take care. Enjoy the rest. Enjoy your week. You promoting anything or you just here? I'm just. I'm here doing media. Okay. Here to speak for. Yeah, okay. I got. Appreciate you, bro. Have a great day. Appreciate. Make sure y' all give him that blank check over there. Y' all have a blessing. Appreciate you, bro. Oh, man, what a squad. All right, we got another very special guest coming to join us. This guy's a four time first team all pro in 20, 20, 22, 23 and 24. He suffered the dislocated and a broken ankle in week six, which ended the season. Here he is, the Missile, Fred Warner. Fred, how you doing, bro? Hold on, hold on. Let's. We got to introduce him, right? Go ahead. One of the greatest linebackers in NFL history. The best linebacker in today's game, right now. I love that talk. The illustrious, incomparable 54. What we talking about? That's right. What we talking about? Come on, man. Y' all tell me, man, what we talking about? One of the greatest. Yeah. You suffered that broken, broke, broken and dislocated ankle in week six, right? How's the recovery going? Because they show some tape and I thought they did A great job of not like, look, come on. Yeah, we could probably, but he's not going to be Fred, and let's not run the risk of doing any further damage. Let's give him a full off season. So when we come back for training camp or when we come back for those OTAs, he's looking like the Fred Warner that we know he's supposed to look like. Yeah. I mean, it's one of those injuries, Right. Like, I remember all throughout my career, I've seen that happen to a couple cats, like Dak Prescott, for example. I think he had that nasty one who's at home, right? Yeah. And it's kind of one of those ones. It's like a fear of yours. Like, you don't ever want to go through something like that because it just looked nasty. Right. And so when I'm in the moment and I feel this boom hit down my leg and I'm on the ground, I look at my stuff and it's pointing the opposite direction. I'm like, oh, my gosh, like, immediate shock when it went through my body. Right. And so it is one of those things, though, and I am blessed that once they put it together and you start rehabbing and kind of getting the healing process going, you. You jump, you bounce back really quick. So the fact that I even had opportunity to return to practice during the playoffs, only three months removed from that, speaks to everything you need to know. Like, it's just. It's unbelievable. You know what? You have the resources, you have the access to some of the best technology to be able to come back much faster than. Than others, as opposed to when we were playing, it was kind of different. How do you feel now in the rehab process? When you're on the field? Do you have your lateral movement, your explosion? Is it all there? Flexibility? Everything. Everything. And it's only going to get better as time goes on. Right. It's just. It's one of those things that. It's your new reality. Like, if you go beat it up is going. You know, you dealing with, like, the little swelling that kind of gets in there a little bit, the soreness. Right. But as you keep going, man, you build that thing up from the ground up and do the things. Right. I think you mentioned it perfectly, like, all the. The resources that I got now, yes, I'm. I'm super blessed and happy that I. It happened later in my career where I have all these resources, all these. All these relationships I built up throughout my career. So now when it happened, it's Like, I'm calling this person, I'm texting this person. Okay, boom, boom, boom. We got a plan together. You know, I felt horrible for oh, Cam Scatterboo. It was like two weeks after I did mine, right? He go and do his. And then, oh, Judkins with the, with the Browns, he had the same. I'm like, man, these guys are rookies that are just barely starting their career. They got to go through something like this. But those type of setbacks, man, it only make for a greater story when you do come. Right. Go ahead. I'm going to say one question before I talk about the defense and what you guys with the high of Raheem Mars and everything. Yeah. What do you think about the noise and the talk and the conversations about the injuries that constantly happen to you guys? Much more than any NFL team because of the plant that happens to be close to the training facility. Your thoughts? Honestly? No. I mean, if I'm being honest, I think it's a little silly. I will say, like, thank you. The substation, the thing about it is it's been there for decades. Like, this ain't something that they just built up there the last five years or ten years that Kyle, you know, had his team here. They've been practicing over at that substation forever. I don't. And now to say, is there something to it? I don't know. There's not enough research that's been done, and I think that's something that they'll maybe look into more. But, you know, the game of football, y' all know it's a violent game. And is a substation attributed to me breaking my ankle in half? No. You know, it's like there's this stuff that you just can't really overcome. And we do have an older roster, so like a lot of our star players, quote, unquote, and guys that you pay a lot of money to, like, when you're older, you're more susceptible to little things like hammies growing and all these little things. So, yeah, man. I mean, at the end of the day, we got to always continue to find ways to be better health wise. Cuz when we are healthy, we in, we in that big game that they playing this this Sunday. Absolutely. Yeah. This might be a blessing in disguise because you say as you get older, you got a year and a half, you got, you got, you got a full, you got a full year off you. What if you have Raheem and I don't know if he was there with you at any point in Time you had cross paths Raheem, but he's. But Kyle and Raheem go way, way back. They were both on the Washington staff together when Kyle was calling plays for his dad. And Raheem, I think, was the DB coach back then. So what, what is your expectations about this defense? You finally got Robert Salah back last year. You had d' Amico and you had your best, some of your best years under d'. Amico. So what, what can you expect from Raheem to bring to this defense? You get Bosa back, you get some of those, those guys back that were injured, yourself included. So what can you expect from this defense? What can 49er fans expect from the 49ers moving forward? The expectation is always dominance. That's all that my expectation always is. And it's always been that since we've been here. You mentioned that Coach Salah, d' Amico guys have built up this top five defense year in, a year out, and that's the standard now. Right. And we're just trying to give ourselves the best chance to win a Super Bowl. And in my opinion, man, defense wins championships. So I think if we can build up a dominant group to help give us a chance to do that, I think Raheem is the best person for the job. I only hear glowing things about him. Correct. From everywhere that he's been. His players love him, staff coaches, everybody has loved him wherever he's gone. So I know he'll do a fantastic job. Talk about this super bowl, you know, this team, you're familiar with one team. That's right. Thirteen to three, the last game of the season. You didn't play in that game. And then you go out there and then they do a great job. They run the opening kickoff back. And for the most part, the game was really never close after that. Sure. And you guys are going to have to step up because the Rams are in that division and they were lost in NFC Championship game. The team that they lost to is here in the Super Bowl. Talk about the Seattle and, and the jump that they made from one year to the next. It seemed like they got better defensively. It seems like they got better offensively. That Sam Darnold is like, oh, my goodness. Yeah. No, I mean, it's. They, they've done a really good job. You got, you got to tip your cap. Of course, I don't like any of the, the division rivals. And that's understood. Right. It don't even matter if you, the Cardinals, you beat up this year. It's still what it is. Like, we just don't like you. But you got to tip your cap when, you know, when teams play, you know, a certain style of ball that you, that you respect, and that's Seattle. Mike McDonald, the thing that he's instilled in their culture and the standard of play, you see it on every phase of their team. Offense, defense, special teams, like, they're going to play physical. They're going to play a style of ball where they're relentless and they've done a great job through the draft, you know, building up. And you have these, these young star, power star players in like a JSN and a Devon Witherspoon that you can lean on while also adding in free agents like Sam Darnold to be your franchise quarterback. You, you pick up Rashid Shahid on the trade, Ernest Jones. You talk about the market, Lawrence, like they lo. They loaded up their roster with the type of guys not only that are playmakers, but guys that fit that, that way of play that they, that they're doing. You talked about the standard, the standard in which you guys play at, right? And I think about the division, which was the toughest division during my time. It was AFC north, right? The toughest division in today's game. NFC West. Is the NFC West. It's not even close. Do you feel. Do you like that challenge every year, or do you feel you're at somewhat of a disadvantage because of that? No, I love the challenge. Because at the end of the day, like, first of all, I don't. I don't feel like we should be measuring ourselves up against Seattle or the Rams. Like. No, you measure up yourself against the 49ers, because at the end of the day, we are a franchise of Super Bowls, five times super bowl champion. So the moment I stepped into that building, I knew what time it was like. You see them five super bowl trophies in the trophy case, and this is what the standard is. So we measure ourselves to that standard, which is winning Super Bowls. And so anytime we don't do that, it unfortunately is a failure. Now, was this past season a complete failure? No, you can't really say that because the things that we dealt with were real and the things that we had to overcome in. In a lot of young players coming in, playing meaningful minutes. That's only going to help us, what we're trying to do next season. Do you think the naysayers can now be quiet? And has Brock Purdy done enough to keep everybody shush? They. They'll never be quiet. You Know why? Because he was the last pick in the draft. And that's exactly why. They'll. They're. They'll never see anything, but never. They'll never see you as anything, but that's. It doesn't matter. He went a Super Bowl MVP. He went multiple MVPs of this league. They're always going to say, yeah, but. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And so in my mind, he's by far the best line. I'm talking about the best quarterback in. In this game. I like it because of what he's able to do on that field. Okay. He does. I love the fact that Mac Jones was able to keep you guys afloat while Purdy was dealing. What he's done. That's right. You bring him back. People don't realize it, but at that position, if you don't have an adequate backup, your season can jump off a. Go off a cliff, right off the rails. As soon as the starter goes down, that's it. You're like, damn. Yep. And you know, I do know. I mean, you say everything publicly. Oh, yeah, we gonna keep the thing rolling. We got such and such. But if you don't really have that guy. Yeah, it's over. You see? You see, unfortunately for Denver, you got your Bo Nix. He breaks his ankle, and then they gotta rely on Jerry Stidham, who I think is a good quarterback, but he hasn't played. He hasn't played in two years. Right. So then you're relying on him in a snowstorm to go win you an NFC or AFC championship. It's tough, right? Like the backup don't get the amount of reps that a starter doesn't. Starter is a starter for a reason. For a reason. Yep. All Pro Pro Bowler. The best middle linebacker in football game. Here he is. Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate you, bro. I'm here on behalf of Experian, by the way, man. Help you save time and money and credit. I like it. What's my credit? You check your credit score on the app as well? Can you help me, since you're a party, Experience my credit score. Like, I know you like to save money now. Experience. Help you say that. And time. I got you. Yes, I got you. Yes, sir. Appreciate you, boy. Appreciate that, friend. Thank you, man. Appreciate you, bro. Have a good one, man. Hey, get you some McDonald's. That heal up faster, bro. Yeah, there you go. Don't do that, friend. Don't do that. We don't got older, friend. We can't. We can't process it like we once could. Okay. Oh, Jay. I want to fight. Jay. What a beautiful day. Chat. Can y' all hear me? How do I look, huh? Can you see me? How's my hair? Okay. Come on. Who's that? Oh. What's up, bro? How you doing, man? What's up? You good? It's been last year with the Kansas City Chiefs, one of the fastest players in the NFL. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, Tyquan Thornton. Ty, how you doing, bro? Doing good, man. How you doing? I'm doing good, man. Man, you got off to such a great start. Superior. And it seemed like once Rasheed came back or Hollywood came back, your numbers all of a sudden took a dip. What transpired that you were playing so well? You could easily be thought of as the best receiver. Yeah. Especially for the first four or five games. What transpired to cause your production to kind of taper off like you said, man? You know, a couple of guys came back, and, you know, those guys that they were, I would say, probably more familiar with or had plans for and something like that. So, you know, I don't really know what really went on behind them closed doors and everything, but, like, you know, nothing changed for me at all. You know what I'm saying? I still showed up every day at work, you know what I'm saying? Coming out there, doing what I do, going out there making plays and with the opportunities that I got. But, you know. Yeah, but see, the good thing about it is that's the game that they do play. When people go down, you get your opportunity. You made the most of said opportunities once you got in there and looked like the best receiver on that team. So if you're not going back to Kansas City, which you've already set yourself up with 31 other teams. Yeah. Understanding that. Okay, if we had this young fella, based on what he did when everybody else went down with the Chiefs, this is what he can do. This is the value that he adds to our team. So for you, that's part of the game. That's part of the business. You know, I understand that you should understand it at this point as well, but you've already set yourself up for the future, regardless. Yeah. This is a situation because you did run 4 to 7 coming out of college, and it seems like everybody just wants to make you, let you run deep. But I can run other things. I can run it out. I can run a dig, I can run it over. I can run a split. I mean, let me do something other than go deep. Yes. I can get Deep. I can run a post, I can run a 9 route, but I can also run a speed out. I can also run an incut. I can also run an over. Does it get frustrating? Because it seems to me looking from the outside and I don't know what they call, but it seems to me that every time I see you in there, you just going deep. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it definitely get frustrating, you know, because I mean, everybody know like once ad get on the field, he's going, yeah, he going vertical. Every time he turn on the clip, he's going vertical, you know, and that's why I like, you know, when we going in training camp and stuff like that and when we doing one on ones, you see me out there, I'm never going deep, right? Never in one on ones, going deep. It's always like I'm trying to work different routes to show you that I can get open and create separation. So I mean, that's something that I still want to show. Go out there and show that I can run a deep over or deep out. You know what I'm saying? A dagger. You know what I'm saying? Go able to go over there and get open consistently. Yeah, but you done set yourself up. You don't set yourself up. Do you want to go back to the Chiefs? Be careful. I mean, you could be PC, but would you like to do that? I want an opportunity to play. Yeah. So if I go back to the Chiefs and play with Pat and get the my fair share of targets. Yes, sir, man. I would love to do that. There we go. I would love to do that. There we go. You heard that, Mr. Reed, Mr. B. Enemy. Come on now. Red Beach Ty. Appreciate you, man. Thank y', all, man. For sure. Stay healthy. Best of luck in the future. Thank you all, man. Thank you. Thanks for joining us. Write your ass in here, Jay. Jay. Come on, Jay. Let's wrestle. Jay. Come on, Jay. Let's wrestle. Yeah. Hey, Jay. I'm looking. You're a cute kid. Hey, what's up, bro? Jay. What's up, baby? You're good. Let's do it. I'm getting ready to fight this mom. Who? I promise you, Jay. Yeah, no, no, I'm serious. You're not going to find him, Jay. I'm going to him up. I promise you. When did you start training? Seven years ago. Okay. He's been able to support, right? But I've been fighting all my life, Jake. I've been fighting all my life, too. Yeah, not like this. Joining us now as Fox NFL Insider. The founder of mvp merging vets and players. Unbreakable performance. He's one of the greatest, best insiders. There you go. Giving NFL information. The best. Here he is, Jay Glazer. Jay, how you doing, bro? Doing great, man. Glad to be gone, man. You guys gotta have me on more. You want to. Come on. Yeah, come on. I like it. No, you can curse. I do it all the time. Okay, good, good, good. Yeah. You guys know me. You know, the only time I don't is, you know, when, like, the red light comes on. The box. Well, Howie Long used to have a counter in the. In our meetings. Yeah. And, like, I didn't know what was going on. And I would say, you know, I'm from Jersey, so that's how I talk. So I'd say, oh, this? And also, boom, boom, boom. And one day in. In a production, meetings, all of a sudden, how. He's like, 72. I'm like, what is he talking about? And I said, he talking about 73. And it went. And he had a counter. And how many times I say. And going to the meeting, but. Right. Red light comes on, I don't say I'm good. Right. Okay. I'm a professional. Help me understand then. Yeah. There's been a lot of talk over the last week. We found out last week that Coach Belichick didn't get in on the first battle stupid of all time. And we also just found that in the last couple of days, Mr. Kraft also didn't get in on the second ballot. There's them, too. Jay, what's going. What have you heard? Because I know you've heard from some of the voters what's going on. No, no, I don't. But you guys know me. Yeah. I'm not part of that crew. Right. I've never been allowed to play with the children there. Like, I always did it differently. You guys remember 93? I came in. Yeah. And I was like, man, I don't have. I started covering the Giants, and I was like, I don't have the same education. I got kicked out of my first college. Yes. I went down a box to Westchester University of Pennsylvania. They kicked me out the day boxing season ended. And so it's like, all right, they're using me for that. And went back home, started doing Jersey, and then moved to New York to go to Pace College, downtown Manhattan, because it was the cheapest place to live. And. But I eventually, like. I was, like, boxing, bouncing, bartending, doing. I was. I was being a bouncer for a crime family at what used to be Studio 54 and then I think it became it after that. But it was like it wasn't the greatest career choice for me and and I actually signed to box for the Genovese crime family. That was gonna be my job, right? But then eventually, thank God I never showed up there. I was like God like hit me the lightning bolt like the day before I was going to my first practice of a finals gym in Jersey City. Like God like hit me with a lightning bolt like what are you doing? You're not even telling you're Jewish. Like what are you doing? 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But I got destroyed. But as a result, because I did it my way, I never got included into the group of, you know, hall of Fame or AP or nothing. I've never been part of it and I don't really give a. But you did. You broke the story about Spygate. How much? How? How? My God. Now, now, now you know, thank you, my best friend. God almighty in heaven. But there's a situation where people, many believe that Spygate was worse than them was let on. How much does Spygate play in a role that coach Belichick not getting in and Mr. Kraft not getting into the ballot? I think like people want to use again. I Can't talk for a second because I don't talk to those guys. Right. You're not in the room when they were. Yeah. So, like, if they want to hold on to that, they can hold. But that's like saying, okay, we're going to keep Lawrence Stellar out because he did. He did blow. Yeah. Stupid. Of all time. If you're the greatest, you're the greatest. You know, I mean, that's it. Yeah. Okay. And he won plenty of games without it. So I. I don't know. I. I think also, like, because he wasn't great with the media, it was their vendetta. And this is not me knowing a personal. Just from the outside in, how do you not put him first? Right. Like, that means no coach should ever be a first ballot. Yeah. In the history of life. I mean. But you know what? You know why I get pushed back where I push back on everybody? Because they say he was average without Coach Belichick. Was average without Tom Brady. Ask me what was the best out of Brady. What was Chuck. No. Without Terry Bradshaw. Yeah. What was Coach Lombardi without Bart Stark? See, they never used that argument because Bart Starr. I mean, Coach Lombardi was the first ballot hall of Fame. Shanahan. Chuck. No. Was the first ballot hall of Famer. So, I mean. And Don Shuler was the first ballot hall of Famer. But look at his quarterbacks. He had Johnny Unitis, Bob Greasy and Dan Marino. I mean, well, damn, you got the top 100 players of all time. I always say we. You have a quarterback, all of a sudden, you know how to pick players. Your coaches can coach. You look like you're fantastic. Yeah. When you don't have a quarterback, everyone's a dumb. Yeah. You can't pick players. No one knows how to coach. Like, you know what I mean? It really is that much. You also said that Mike Tomlin was done coaching. Do you believe that Mike Tomlin is done coaching in the NFL? Or does he take a year off, get a TV gig and come back? Because all the other coaches that's ever coached in Pittsburgh. Chuck. No. Never coached again. Coach Ky. Although many believed it, he maybe teased it, he never coached again. Is this a similar situation? I think he's done. He. Look, he told me and Ronde Barber two years ago. Yeah, but. But also, it's like, he's like, hey, this is my plan. You can't say this right. Don't show my head. Right. I'm telling you, you're my guy. That's it. So, you know, and that's why I'm where I am in life. And I've never burned anybody. Right. Yes. I don't. I don't go for the scoop. I go for the relationship. Right. And. And our relationship is deep. Like, I coach his son in life now. Right. He's 22, and it's gonna find his way. But my son Sammy, who's been lost a lot, my team was there for him. Yes. So this is, like, beyond all this stuff. So it's also great. Like, I'm known as the gatekeeper in my tea. It's pretty good. I'm the only one who talks to you. Right. But that's like. Yeah, I. You know, last year, I thought he was gonna hang it up. He decided one more. I thought he was going to be done. So until it happens, it happens. But this year, kind of week eight, I'm like, hey, man, anyway, this is gonna change your mind. Nope. Yeah. Okay. I said, can I report it the last week? Nope. He said, but. But in fairness, then, I don't think it's fair if my players find out from you. Yeah. I think they need to find out from me. Right. Okay. I don't have to have every scoop. I'm good. Yeah. I've done pretty well. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, listen, by the way, Spygate you talk about. Yeah. So, man, that was my second week in studio. Right. Box. Right. And the last thing Howie and Terry and Jimmy wanted was some new guy taking up airtime, right? Yeah. So it was my second week inside. I used to do games, remember? I would do. Yeah, right. I would do sidelines. Yeah, yeah, right. And then I do my scoopage from there. Right. And. And they're like, all right, listen, guys, Jay is. Second week. Jay's now gonna have. Normally it's gonna be three segments. We're gonna. We're gonna still the same amount of time, but we're gonna spread them out. But today we're gonna have four. And Howie Long gets up. You guys know how he's a bad. Yeah, Howie is a. I played with Howie. Yeah. And he's. You have to keep the beast in the box. Right? And, like, how heavy ended one of his teammates careers one time, and the guy tugged in his jersey with their center, and I think he broke, like, his collarbone, his eye socket, like, he. Him up. So we were asking him, we're like, hey, dude, like, what'd this guy do? He's like, he talked to my jersey. And we're like, what else do you do? What are you guys understanding? He talked to my Jersey. And we're going to. So you broke his eye sockets in collarbone. He's like, did you guys not understand what I'm saying? He talked to my jerk. So Terry goes, well, don't you think the crime maybe didn't fit the punishment? Right? And he literally goes, are you guys understand what I'm saying? He talked about jury, right? Bother me. Okay, let's move on. Let's move on. He's a sick bastard, right? So he gets up and he goes, wait a minute, you're telling me this kid. And he points at me. Now look at me. Points at me. And he goes, this kid has a Spygate video and you're giving him extra time? And they go, yes, Scott Ackerson. Like, he has the video. He has the actual video? Yes, this kid has the video. And I'm like, oh, my God, this is terrible. This is horrible. And then Jimmy looks at me and he goes, you really got the video? I said, yeah. And Bradshaw looks over and he goes, the actual video? I said, yeah. And he goes, he's okay with me. So thank you, my best friend, God almighty in heaven. And everything changed that day for me. Listen, you've been a huge advocate, very outspoken when it comes to mental health. Yeah. How does it make you feel to see more players be upfront, more boisterous about their mental health issues as opposed to before, when everybody was suppressed it and not let it be known because it was frowned upon? Yeah. You know what's so funny, man? Because I have. I have. You got to ask yourself, man, how many drugs did my parents do when they conceived me? But I have clinical depression, anxiety, adhd, bipolar, ocd, anxiety, insomnia. Other than that, I'm a model of stability. Right. But. But for years I thought I was cursed. And you just hit. And honestly, dude, I would go out when I would have. I would say, the beast got out of the box. I would take a bunch of Vicodin, much Adderall, I go fucking hog wild. I'd start fights, and I would rather do that and get canceled than anyone know I have depression or anxiety. How backwards is that? So I used to think I was cursed. Now I think God blessed me with all these so I could free us all, liberate us like no one's question. Listen, you're crazy. Yeah. You're crazy. You can't be great and not be crazy. Yes. Right. Right. And. And we as men, we're told, you don't say this. And look, for me, training all these players in mma, my whole thing Is like, if you were hurt and tired, you will never, ever, ever, ever know. We don't show that. Right. And then I realized, man, I'm the problem. Right. I'm permeating what our dad's taught us, our uncles taught us. So I'm like, you need that in football and fighting. Okay. You'll never know. We'll be relentless. And as you think we're getting t. I am not. You'll never know. But now, guys, off that field, outside of that cave. Yes. Now I want a new, unbreakable one that will reopen up. And my relationships have never been better. Like, they've turned this right here, this bracelet right here. Yeah. My most prized possession. Michael Phelps gave it to me where with the promise, basically, he wouldn't kill himself. Right. That's a brotherhood. Right? Right. Like, this is the baddest of the bad. Right. And that's. It's turned friendships into brotherhoods and the sisterhoods. And it's really. I feel like my life's beginning. I don't have to be the glaze. Right. That character that I create. Right, right. You know what I mean? And now I get to be real and help people and build people up and learn from them and that. Yeah. And it got me. With my beautiful wife over there, I was able to do, like, get the help I needed and work on things. And we were together for a little bit, and I was up to my old tricks, and I sabotaged because I didn't feel I was worthy of being loved. So I it all up. She split up with me. I flew back to Arizona. You'll see a guy here today named Mark Kerr. Yeah. Who's a smashing machine. Yeah. I moved back to Arizona to fight with him and Ryan Bader and all my old fight team, Aaron Simpson. Because for me, love was getting punched in the face and getting abused. Right. And now, like, I went and did all this work, and now we got back together and got married. I never knew I was able to love and receive love. Yeah. I never felt worthy of it. Yeah. So, like, so. So it. It motivated me to do all these great things from the outside because I couldn't feel love from the inside because I wasn't worthy of it. Yeah. Yeah. That's a piece of. Yeah. Appreciate it. Jake Laser, NFL insider for Fox. But real quick, real quick, real quick. I'm here for Kelbie. Okay. Kelberry. So it's an ADHD drug that day. Yeah. It's a non stimulant. So I used. I got diagnosed with ADHD when I was in 1989, they put me on stimulants. When you have depression. Yeah. Right. The stimulants are bad. Right. And this is my journey. But you know, you get those peaks in those valleys. Yes, valleys are bad. So I found something called Calbury which is a non stimulant. I take it at night and when I got 19 roommates in my head talking all at once. Now I have two. Yeah, it's really helped me out. Right. So it's called Calgary. So I just want people to know that it's really helped me out a lot of breath. Right. Appreciate you, bro. Love you guys. Thank you, man. All right, I'm on more. I'm ready. No, you got to train me. Don't forget. Okay. Okay. Yeah. You really want to fight James Harrison? I mean, it's. I'm gonna beat his ass. What are you talking about? Really want to. We good, Jay? We'll talk about it. We have though. We're good. We're good. Jake. Lazy. Come on. Come on. I love you, baby. Appreciate it. All right, Jay. Appreciate you, man. Thank you, man. All right, next guest coming to the stage is the Houston Texans Cornerback. He's a 2025 Pro Bowler. In his last season, he had four interceptions, 17 PDU, a two time national champ, and guess what? He had an opportunity to play against both the Seahawks and the Patriots. Here he is, Kamari Lassiter. How you doing, bro? Appreciate it. Pull your mic up tomorrow. Yes. Yep. Kamar, you played against both teams, Seahawks and the Patriots. You got to put some money that matters to you. Who you taking in the game? Seahawks. You taking the Seahawks? Yes, sir. What, what is it about the Seahawks that left the impression that, you know what? I understand both teams are more than worthy of being here. Both teams have earned and deserved the right to be here. What is it about the Seahawks that pins you, that makes you think that they have the edge in this ball game? They're just more dangerous. You know, the Patriots, they're good, but the Seahawks are very dangerous, like at every level on both sides of the ball. Like there's a play that's waiting to be made. They can run. Obviously, with K9 running the football ball. JSN. I mean, the. The way he. The. The effortlessness in which he runs, he, like he's just floating. He gives you no tales on when he's going to break in or break out or he's going to keep straight ahead. What is it that you like about his game? Because you covered a lot of receivers, you get the ones, you get the twos. And you've seen a lot of receivers over 18 weeks, over 19, excuse me, 20 weeks of the season. What is it about JSN that makes him so special and so unique? He's very fluid, I would say. You know what I'm saying? Like you just said, like, he. He doesn't give many tails, and I can see a lot of tails, but he doesn't give them often. And I think that's what kind of just separates his game. You know, he's able to make every catch and run every route, and he's able to go different places within the offense, and they move him around a lot, and he's able to make the plays. Yeah. Hey, listen, I've talked about you tremendously, damn near every week. I'm sure you've heard some of the things I said about. About you, because I love exceptional DB play. Appreciate it. Your teammates, they call you crazy. Your teammates, they call you a lunatic because of your style of play. Loving to play man to man. Does it surprise receivers with your style of play? And have you had any difficulties with anybody that just stands out to you from the receiver position? Never had no difficulties. I feel like every time I step on the field, it's either good bump or I did something wrong. Every time I lose a rep, I feel like I did something wrong. I don't feel like people just go out there and beat me. I feel like there's something that I either stepped wrong, I wasn't locked in. That's just how I feel like. That's how I grade myself. I feel like I'm here to step with anybody, you know what I'm saying? So I don't think that it's crazy. I just think that. I just think different. Like, I'm just wired differently. Like I got everything. I'm here out the mud, you know what I'm saying? So I just feel like whenever I go out somewhere, I'm putting my best foot. I'm putting my best foot down every time. Yeah. And it showed from a rookie. Yes, sir. Last year. It shows. Tell him how many times I talked about his style of play. And we always talk about Stingley. Stingy, Stingley. Hold on now. Y' all tripping. Hold on now. We got somebody just as good that brings just as much value at the position at the third level on the other side. Yeah. And I. I appreciate. I appreciate your work. Thank you. But you understand, because you have Sting on the other side, they gonna try you. Oh, yeah. And I love it. Look, I tell Sting all the time. I was just talking to him yesterday. I'm like, sting, bro, I I with you, dog. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, you, you, you one on one. And that, that helps me be one on one because they. They not going at you. They want. They think I'm. I'm sweet. They think you the week. Try it. Because we try. Hey, we look here, when you're trying to go into someone's house, you. Oh, that's locked. Yeah, that was locked. Oh, let me go. Let me step on him. Yeah. Trust you on the other side. But when you look at your defense, you guys are physical defense at every level. You got Algeria and you got. And the DB Petri, bro. Y' all are a physical defense. What is your mentality? When demo got there, what was your guys mentality? It's like, okay, let's lock in. Because looking at you guys and OTAs and look at you guys in and training camps, we have an opportunity to be special. Yeah. I'm not gonna lie. From the moment I got drafted here, I was like, dang, this is a good defense. Last year, we. We kind of gelled together. This year, we already had a year up under our belt. I mean, you look, you. Like you said, you look all three levels on the back, and you got cb, Me, Petrie, Sting, then you got Hendog. You got Z's then on our line. Come on. You ain't even say nothing about Will. And Danil Daniel said nothing about will. Y' all got rankings. Y' all got Edwards, Tim. Like, we got a lot of people, and they like, we're just ticking time bombs. There's a play waiting to be made every single time we step on the field. So it's just fun going out there. Like, I knew as soon as we stepped on the field this year for OTAs, I'm like, oh, yeah, we're going to be one of them ones. How has DeMeco Ryan's help you as a player evolve and get better this early in your career? You think? He's helped me a lot. He just pushes me. Like, I feel like I respect coach a lot because he drafted me, obviously. So I feel like there's a. There's a level of belief that he had in me from, from, from the jump. And he just continued to push me. Like, he just wants me to be better. He wants me, like, this year, he's like, you had a good year, but I need you to go ahead and go to another level. Yeah, so it's just like he said that last year. He's like, okay, you did it. You had a good year. Now let's go to this level. So I just feel like the more that you push me, like, the more you put on my plate, I'm ready to eat. You know what I'm saying? Put your GM hat on. Okay. You the GM of the Houston Texans. What is it that you guys need to do? They get over the hump to me from the outside, looking in defensively, they don't get no better than that. What do you think y' all guys need to do to get over the hump so you can be in a situation like the Seahawks and the Patriots? Are you trying to set me up? Oh, no, no, no. You could do answer at PC, that's all. That's why I said, put your GM hat on. Gm. I think what we need to do, we got everything. We have everybody. We just. I think. I think depth because, you know, injuries happen. Absolutely. You know, injuries derail a lot of teams. So I feel like depth will be that. You can never have too much depth. And I just feel like he's got to make the plays. Yeah, because you saw it when. When CJ Went down, your quarterback kept you afloat, of course, until. See, because a lot of times we just saw. And Fred was on here and we saw with the Broncos, their quarterback goes down, and you need your court, you need your backup to come in in one game. Yeah. And that's the difference. Because the margin of the NFL of winning and losing is so small, because everybody at that level at one point in time was All State, all American, all world, all this, all that. So you're. It's not like it's Georgia playing tcu. It ain't one of those situations. You know what? When I first got to the league, a guy told me, he said, shannon, every guy that's in the NFL can make every other guy in the NFL look foolish. Of course, if you just look at somebody talk about where they were drafted in the seventh round or they this or they that, the best. The. The worst receiver on a given day can make the best DB look foolish. Of course. And y' all know how it is. Like, it. The margin for error is so small, like he said. And it's like, that's what it boils down to, making the plays. But it takes so much to be able to make the play. You gotta be in the right position. You gotta be able to do a lot of stuff. And it just. We just gotta Lock in on the details, man. Unbelievable season, man. Best of luck. Appreciate y'. All. Don't get satisfied. Yes. Oh, no. Don't get satisfied. Continues to eat. Yes, sir. Overeat. Yeah. Hey, overeat. I want some of that work, too, bro. Look, I ain't running. Hey, I want some of that work. Look, look, I've been. I've been waiting to get up. I've been waiting to get up with you for a long time. Come on. You sure? I look back in the day, huh? Talk to me. They used to call. They, like around the way. They used to be like, you look like little Ocho. Oh, yeah, they used to say that. They used to say that. Yeah, they used to say that. Well, you know, these feet. These feet still work just fine. They do. Where your cleats at, huh? They in the trunk. Hey, mine in the trunk, too. Appreciate you, bro. Congratulations. Stay healthy. Keep. Stay hungry. Yes, sir. Appreciate you okay, Right? Are you. What. When you go to beach? I didn't go to. I went to San. You good? Always. You said what? What's good? What's good? You straight? You look like you. Huh? That's you, man. I got on soccer gear. That's. Hey, it ain't, ain't. It ain't on you and see you. All right. Joining us now back to back on Nightcap Radio Row. Another the best. Yes, sir. Okay. Joining us now here on Nightcap Radio Row, my guy here, he is number 21 from the Cleveland Browns, Denzel Ward. Denzel, how you doing? I'm good, man. Appreciate being here, man. Thanks for having me. Another unbelievable season. But at some point in time, you going to get tired of having these unbelievable seasons individually. Yeah. And want to have an unbelievable season team wise. Yeah. Obviously your new coach. New coach coming in. You're probably gonna have a new D.C. oh, don't tell me that. Well, considering Todd, some of the things that Todd said about her. Yeah. It ain't looking. It ain't looking good. I'm just saying. I'm just saying from the outside, it ain't looking good. What do you guys need to do to make sure, like, Miles is going to win defensive player of the Year unanimously. You are a top two, three corner. So the individual success that you've enjoyed and that Miles have enjoyed, but at some point in time, you play a team sport. This ain't golf, this ain't tennis. And so the individuality is fine and good, and we'll talk about that once come time to hall of Fame. But right now, I want to have Some team success. I'm tired of getting my eyes beat in and we lose it. But man, hell of a game, Denzel. Hell of a game. After the game. Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing. That's probably why the decisions was made, how they were made with bringing Todd Monken in. Offensive minded coach. And we struggled to be real. We struggled on offense. We struggled on offense and wasn't able to put points on the board and. And you know, wasn't playing that complimentary football. So once we could do that and hopefully Coach Monk can come in and change the offensive organization around, I think we go. We go do well. We got to continue to stay up there for the defense and make plays and be that defensive player of the year and top corner in the league. And we gonna make it happen. Listen, defensively, y' all gonna be fine. It doesn't matter. Offensively, we know it needs work. There's some things, there's some pieces that are missing to that puzzle. Obviously, the first thing that needs to be situated, you need to figure out who's gonna be quarterback number one and then build from there and then go around that Brother Fanning. What's brother Fanny? First name Harold. Harold. Boy, he is the real deal. That's one piece. Now continue to add pizzas to. To the puzzle. So offensive, I need some receivers. I ain't going to hold you. What? They need some receivers. Okay, I'm. I'm going let that go. I'm let. I'm going let you have. He know he there every day. Listen, defensively, you can have a goddamn poke coach in the defense. Y' all going to be right. Oprah could come coach the goddamn defense. Y' all going to be okay. Based on the personnel that you do have, if you put your GM cap on, hypothetically speaking, what changes would you make to your Cleveland Brown so you guys could have some success and get over the hump and not only compete in the AFC north in that division, but in the NFL in general. In a whole, I think really everything you just said, like we got to solidify that quarterback position, see who that number one guys go be. I know we're gonna have some guys coming back competing. So once we solidify that. But. And we go these receivers off, you know, I'm going heavy offline receivers. I'm on heavy offense and bringing guys in to. To. To make us better. Well, speaking of receivers. Huh. You know, I'm man, this old man, you know, they in the closet. CLE in the closet. They in the car. Okay. 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One on one advice. IT solutions and customized hardware powered by Intel Core Ultra processors help you stay ahead of the competition. Business goes pro with Lenovo Pro Sign up for free@lenovo.com Pro. QP Go back and kill him. But like when you, when you go. Coming into the season, what, what, what are you focusing on? So, you know, obviously, you know, I used to like, okay, number one goal was to stay healthy. Then I was like, okay, if I could get X, Y and Z, catch his yard, make a Pro bowl, be an all pro team, get to the super bowl, win the division, think about like that. So when Denzel Ward starts putting down his top 10 things that he wants to accomplish in an upcoming season of 20, 22, 2026 season, what do you, what, what's on your board? Yeah, I think like similar. You said like going into the scene like, all right, I'm trying to stay healthy. We just getting back to the playing fast football reacting and everything. Trying to stay healthy. But then, all right, now I'm trying to make plays and you know, I got to be the best. They expect me to be the number one corner out here and lock boys down, like lock my side of the field down. That's what I got to do. So that's all, that's my goal every game, Give up no catches, make plays and be that guy out there on the field. You like traveling? I will. I like doing whatever, help the team win. But I honestly, I like being on one side locking that side of the field down. You could double up everything on the other side and let me do what I do on this side, you know. You like playing on the, you like playing on the offensive right side or the offensive left side? Left. Left. Yeah. That's why I like to line up too. That's what I like. I wanted, I want to see people like you. Me? Yeah. Now you don't want to see me. I want to see. So you like covering the X receiver to Z? Yeah, it don't matter. It really don't matter. Them Z's now them Z's, you know, the Z's were tough. I mean Ocho, Ocho like being on the ball because A lot of guys like being on off the ball. Right. Because that gives me a little bit more separation. That's real. Because now if you step and I'm off the ball, okay, I'm gone. Yeah. You know, I've talked to multiple receivers, damn near every. Every NFL receiver in the league, and I always ask them, who gives you the most difficulty? Who gives you one of your best challenges? And the same two names come up. Denzel Ward and Pat 13. From a technical standpoint, I say it all the time on every show, any platform. Even when I see you in person, I've never seen anything like that. And smooth as patient dog. My favorite rep from you. Yes. Yes. I'm. I'm f to glaze right now. I don't care what y' all say. Is the one against my brother T. Higgins, where you off a little back. You shadowing, and he gets a step on you, you turn, you relax, you ain't patient, and you just play the hands. He end up picking the ball. Yeah, I'm like, what he. Man, listen, man, sometimes you have to play through the receiver. Exactly. Oh, yeah. But I think that's. That's the biggest. Biggest thing. So. Because a lot of times small corners are great with small receivers, shifty guys, and then they struggle with big guys. Do you find yourself struggling? So. So what do you like? Because big guys normally have a problem, like Reavis. A guy like Reavis, a big receiver, he was gonna eat him up because he's so patient and he's stronger than. He's stronger than you think. Like, man, I'm gonna run through him, and next thing you, like, let me go. I don't really feel I'm a small corner, though. You know, I got a little good size to me, but for me, I think it just depends on the personnel, like, who the player is. Like, it's not like I don't like going against big receivers or little receivers, but who that guy. Are they able to use a body type, like. So like a George picking like he. A taller receiver, like, he's good at. Okay. He'll play through contact. Yeah, he can go play through contact. So that might be a little tougher matchup. But fast guys, tight. Tyreek Hill or something like that. Like, I like going against guys like that, too, but it's really just whatever they're good at. Are they able to do that? Well, better than what I can. It's a funny thing. I like. I like about him, too. And I've been. I've been studying. I'VE been studying your game for a long time because you know how I love and feel about DB play. I've seen you change your game plan. I've seen you change your style of play based on the receiver that's in front of you. Yeah, definitely. I've seen it. So I understand what you. What you're going through and what you're thinking, because it's all a chess match at that point based on the skill set that's in front of you. Exactly that. Yeah. That's how I feel like if you just stand. Stand there and you know, I'm doing the same thing every single time. Okay, now you making a plan. Okay. I know he bout a line up and do this, so I'm a boom. I'm gonna give him this release, and I know he go, go here. So that's why I like to kind of play the game. Like, okay, I'm gonna switch it up a little bit. That's similar. We play Pittsburgh like, they challenge me like the last three plays of the game or whatever. So I like, changed up. I ain't play the same technique on all the plays. I changed it up my jump, jam them or I might get offense. So just switching it up and. And just playing chess game, I just tried to figure that out. They gonna take the third best receiver and try you on fourth thing that. On fourth and goal. Did that make any sense to you? I. I didn't understand it because, I mean, they didn't try me all game, but I know, like, at some point in the game, you gotta. You gotta come to me. You gotta. You gotta come and. And just see. See what you got. But. Yeah, I didn't understand three plays in a row why they did jsn. You watched jsn. I don't know if you had. Had you had the. The opportunity to cover jsn, but if. When you watch him on film and you watch what he does and how he just. He's just like, ain't no wasted motion. Yeah. There's no chop to his game. The out looks like the end. The end looks like the goal. The goal looks like the seven. I mean, everything is like he's falling off the table and nothing. Nothing is wasted. Yeah. When you, when you watch him, is that what makes him so special? What makes him so unique? Yeah, just like that. I. I agree with that. Like that. That makes it tough when he making his routes look the same every single time and you like, he's running straight and, oh, he could break it, break it in or Running straight. He could break it out. So it's like, okay, y. You got to stay true, play it true. But he a smooth route runner, great hands, great routes, and he making everything look the same. Yeah. Who you. I'm asking you to put some money that means something to you. Who you got, the Patriots or the Seahawks? Yeah. I got a lot of respect, Coach Bravel and what he is able to do for the Patriots in one year. But I got. I got Seattle because of the defense. Huh? Because of the defense. I got it because of Jackson Smith. I got it because of both. They. They both been. Been doing well. I got it. I got it for both. Okay. Because they can run the football with K9. Yeah. Sam Darnold has been playing unbelievable. He just has to one more game. He's done great in the postseason. He hasn't had to. He hadn't turned the ball over. You know, you turn the ball over and come postseason, you're going home. You look at the team that turned the ball over in the postseason, all of them going home. Definitely everybody went home. You look at the Texans, you look at the Broncos, you look at the Red, you look at. If you turn the football over, you are going home. Yeah, that's what we look at every year. What's the turnover margin like if you don't turn the ball over? Intercept the ball. Okay. That team more likely to win. You know, you take care of the ball, you're more likely to win. So. Yeah. Oh, matter of fact, man, you seen Miles Garrett? Yeah, where he at? I don't know. He promised me that Sack jersey, that 23, as soon as he got that sack. And he told me he was gonna give me that jersey. He sent it to the hall of Fame, so you know what I gotta do to him? You can go just take it out the little case, go to the hall of Fame and. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He gotta see me. Oh, yeah. Okay. I don't know how that good that's gonna go. You want me to tell you how it's gonna go? Let me hear. I'm finna. Whoopi. What kind of. What do you say? Like, man, Madden. No, I'm talking about with these. I don't know, man, but he promised me the jersey. D y' all different weight classes. No weight. Glasses don't matter with me. It's all about skill. But here's the thing. You want some one on one? You want some one on one over Who? Look, he act like he didn't hear it. Yeah, he's wrong on the field. Yeah, like he ain't here. Oh, you don't want none of this. Hey, you know, let me tell you something. I done studied him too much. Yeah. So you know it. I know. I know every move. He play head up, he play outside. It don't matter what he do. I got something for him. Do you think he'll quick jam you quit? Jam move. He gonna post or what? He looking to post. He stabbed. I'm going up under that thing. See, look. I seen he had the thing where he brought all the receivers out. Oh, yeah. I was trying to show up and give boys some one on ones like, hey, I'm trying to come. We doing it this year. Yeah. Come out and give us a look. Let me. Yeah, I'll give y' all a look. Okay. Okay. You know. You nervous? I'm good. I just want to give a look. Give a good look, you know? I like that. You know, I wear my cleats when I'm out there too. That's cool. I wouldn't expect nothing left. All right. Man, you don't get no credit for beating no old man, you know. Did up a whole man that. What you gonna get no credit for that. He did up everybody in the league now, so. I mean. Well, he definitely. Well, just keep doing that. Just keep doing that. Man. Denzel, man, congratulations on a great season, continued success, stay healthy and, man, hopefully, man, we see you guys in the playoffs real soon, man. I hope so. Because all that, it's. Look, I know the money good. I know the adulation being an all Pro and a Pro bowl player, but you want some team success. That's what you. That's what. That's what you play for. Absolutely. What you play for. Well, congratulations, man. Stay healthy and we'll see you down the road. Yes, sir. Appreciate y'. All. Appreciate it. Wow. Wow. Appreciate you, bro. Appreciate you. All right, here we go. Ocho, we got breaking news. The Dallas mavericks are trading 10 time NBA All Star Anthony Davis, Jaden Hardy, D' Angelo Russell and Dante Exum to the Washington Wizards for Chris Middleton, A.J. johnson, Malik Brahman and Marvin Bagley III. Two first round picks, three second round of sources say so. The Mavericks are trading Anthony Davis, Jaden Harden, D' Angelo Russell and Deontay Exum for Chris Middleton, A.J. johnson, Malachi. Okay, excuse me. Malachi Branham and Marvin Bagley iii. Two first rounders and three second rounders. Hey, but that's nothing. The. The real news hasn't even broke yet. The real news is what I'VE been telling y' all over and over and over. I'm sure they, they just finished finishing up the logistics on that trade. Wait until you see what happens with my brother Giannis and John. The breaking news also the 76ers are trading Dr. McCain to the Oklahoma City Thunder for 2026. For the 2026 Rockets first round pick and three second round picks. Again, the 76ers are trading Jared McCain to the Oklahoma City Thunder for a first round pick and three second round pick. So that thing is, that is tomorrow is the trade, the trade deadline for the NBA. And so we're going to see a lot of trades happening. We're going to see things starting to pick up. But the big news of the day, the Dallas mavericks are trading 10 time NBA All Star Anthony Davis, Jaden Hardy, D' Angelo Russell and Deontay Exum. The Washington Wizards, Chris Middleton, AJ Johnson, Malachi Branham and Marvin Bagley. The third for two first rounders and three second rounders. Damn. AD was there. He was there barely a year. Well, uncle, he there barely a year. But the one thing that has haunted him his whole career and have been his Achilles heel is injury. Yes. The best ability is availability and he hasn't been that I like. You know what? This is not going to be a bad thing. Can you imagine the pick and roll with Trey Young and Anthony Davis? You got an inside outside. Trey was good cuz this. Just think what, how Trey was with. What's the guy's name? He's at the Rockets now. What's the center? What's the center for? I forget his name. The center for the Houston Rockets that played with Atlanta. I forgot Clint Capella. Oh, Clint Capella. So Clint Capella can't don't have touch to be able to shoot the ball like Anthony Davis. Yes. Anthony Davis can pick and pop. He can pick and roll. He's a tremendous defender at the rim. You know. Look, I understand he, he might not be happy. They moved. They did the, the Mavericks did what they did. They're not gonna come. Because at the end of the day, think about what you did. You just gave up. You gave up Luka Doncic for Chris Middleton, AJ Johnson, Malachi Branagh, Marvin Bagley iii and two, first round of the three, second round pick. The business is the business. If he does it, if he's not hurt, he's not going nowhere. They can't count on him, huh? They can't. Damn. I love. I love him too. I love him. I love him. Oh, he's Special. He's his tremendous talent. Absolutely. You didn't. You didn't lie. His injury history speaks for itself. His injury history. Anthony Davis has been especially. He's out now. Yeah, he's out now. I mean, he got there and he had an outstanding game. I think his first game with the. With the MAVS, he had 26 and 12. 26 and 13. And he gets hurt. He missed that game, and then he out for the next three, four weeks. That's been. That's been Anthony. That's been Anthony Davis injury history since he's been in the league. He was injured at New the Pelicans. He's injured with la. He did stay healthy long enough when they went to win that championship in 2020. Yeah. But, you know, the thing happened is that they got four months off, so we don't know what could have happened. I'm glad that it didn't happen. Right. But you like Ocho. I just. Just hate that, you know, he's going to his. He. We. Because we see what he can do. Yes. God give you 25 and 12. He can block two to three shots a night. He can defend. He's. He's exceptional. He can shoot the three. Sometimes I thought. I thought he fell in, what, love with the three too much. But it's just the injuries don't show. Just the injuries. But I. Look, I like this for the Wizard. Yes. I love this for the Wizards. You mean to tell me Anthony Davis and Trey Young. Can you imagine? Well, hold on. You got them coming out the East. No, no, no, no, no. Hell, no. They. They coming out the East. They might be going. He's going to Japan or something. The Far East. They ain't coming out the Eastern Conference. Hell, no. They like that. But. No, but I mean, you have to. You have to like Anthony Davis and Trey Young together. It gives. It gives the fans something to be excited for. It give the fans something to want to. To want to come to the games for. What's up, fellas? They do twin. What's up? How you doing, man? Congratulations. Thank you, brother. Joining us. 40. He played with the 49ers from 2017 to 2020. Patriots from 2021 to 2024. Now he's back with the 49ers. 35, 37 catches, 551 yards. Kendrick Bourne. Well, man. How y' all doing, man? How you doing? Hey. Well, you look happy, but you look excited. You look joyous. Talk to me. Good, man. Yeah. God is good life, good family, good health. Good man. Got a good Perspective about life, man. I'm living, man. What got you feeling like this? It's just I'm not supposed to be here. Undrafted, you know what I'm saying? Come on now, talk your talk. Get a little contract. Take your time. I got released this year. But adversity helped you grow. Yes. And how you look at it, I'm on that wave, man, building my own brand, building stuff that I wanted, you know what I'm saying? But using football as a platform. Yeah. And so I got something to look forward to. I'm inspired by y', all, man. You know what I'm saying? Nightcap, things y' all doing. Yes, sir. It's inspiring, bro. After the game. How do you do that, though? Because one of the things you just said, you got released. You know what that does to you, mentally? Mentally, that can crush you. Come on. Most people are not able to come back from something like that happening. What do you expect, Count? Or would you attest you being able to overcome that and still go forward? It's never too high, never too low. Yes, sir. So you know what I'm saying? You're going to be at the bottom sometimes. You going to be at the peak. Come on. How do I stay level, bro? When I'm down, up, I'm. Am I, am I, am I Am I who I say I am when I'm up or down? And that mentality, bro, has. Has got me through. So even when I'm losing, bro, I'm. I'm always happy, smiling, because I know life, good life, big life, bigger than just football. And I'm saying that we look at. So that perspective has helped me get this far, man. I like it. Yes, sir. There was, of course, that you really didn't want to leave New England, but, hey, they wanted to move in a different direction. And you go back to the 49ers where it originally started. What was your expectations when you got back to the 49ers, considering now they let Debo go, Brandon Ayuk situation, what it was, but really, they didn't like. They had a whole lot of number one receivers. So you had Pierce, all you had Juan Jennings. They resigned. DeMarcus Robinson, Winston. So what was your expectations when you went back to the 49ers? What were you expecting from Kendrick? That's a great question, man. It's just God's story, too. Like, me, him bringing me home. Like, you're saying, of course I want to play in the super bowl. Like, Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'll be lying if I did. Like, I want to play, but God's story different. So going back home, connecting with Mac Jones, being connected to the Patriots in that space, and then us balling our opportunity, I didn't know what to expect. But having that right perspective, you know what I'm saying? Thinking with the glass hats full, not like, I ain't gonna go out there and play. They got this and that. So just having my mind in the right space, man, it allowed me to maximize my opportunity. And I'm right here right now. Even on, like, social media, the story was great. So monetizing that story. Being home just helped me be where I'm at right now. What's the difference culturally, being that you've been in both places? You've been over there with the Patriots, been over there with the 49ers. From a cultural difference. Yeah. Do they differ much? Being that the both. Both. Both entities always have always had success. Nah, dog. The Patriots different. Yeah. You go over there. Yeah. No, it's serious, bro. So more militant, more blue collar. And then Shanahan chill football all the time. Check your e. Leave your ego at home. Because if you check your ego at the door, you might. We get a break, you'll go get it. Leave your ego at home. Bring your ass here to work. We work. It's football. It's football. It's football. It's not you even where it's at, like, being in Foxborough, it's just tough. And then you think about San Fran. Yes. It's more like California. It's just that kind of vibe. Yes, sir. When you in Cali, you good. You got the sunglasses. You ain't got. Look at. I don't know how y' all do it, but, you know, you got the pads. You in pads, you in shorts. Everything is really speed and tempo. You put the pads on, you get the pads nine on seven. You do the team stuff on Thursday, then you take the pads off for half the year, and then you out of the pads, and then you good. You know, Shadow had. They treat you what you need on the road. You get the smoothie. Hey, you want to watch a fight on the road? I mean, look, I know Cal. Kyle was a little kid when I was playing for his dad, so I know what that system is like. But I also know people that have played with the Patriots, and I know what. What that system is like. It's different. And I. And I love Kyle. He got the ways of doing things. He know how to get the superstars over There some guys ain't trying to be blue collar and work hard, but everybody operate different. So if you go to New England, anybody get. Get. You get your mind right. And if you go to San Fran. Get your mind right. But it's going to be a different kind of operation. If I. This is what I tell people. I said, it's easier to get drafted into New England as opposed to being drafted somewhere else and going to New England. That is facts. Because it's easier to, like, go tough and get easier. It's harder to be easier and get tough because you're like, hold on, bro. Because we heard Dre Greenlaw, you heard what he said, how he grew up in San Francisco, came from San Francisco, all he knew was Kyle, that West coast system. And then you get Sean Payton, who's old school. Real old school. Old school. They thudding it up. They thudding it up. Practices alone, meetings alone. And that's a great point. So, like, from my story going from San Francoub to Patriots was that I experienced. I had to adjust. And it was like a shock, a whirlwind. And I'm like, all right, bro. I need to adapt. How do I adapt? So I learned a lot, which was powerful. But if you don't get your mind right, yeah, well, you go. You gonna fold. In my career, it got rough a little bit. I came back. You got Coach Belichick. You got Coach Belichick, whose father was in. It was militaristic. Everything is structured. Everything is time. You're gonna be on time. It ain't no late. It ain't no excuses. We are a no excuse zone, Chad. No, I know. Listen, you know how to tell me, hey, first, firsthand. And I'm coming from Cincinnati. I'm not really coming from a background of success. I'm not really coming from a background of winning all the time. That one thing my little black ass did is I worked. That was the one thing I didn't have to adapt to that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wherever I'm at, you know what you gonna get. That's fire. But that militant atmosphere that when you go to practice, KB and you gotta have on every single pad, like, come on, K.B. i'm out there with my hip pads in. I ain't wore my hip pads and butt pads since I was an optimist. It's that serious, bro. How he not first ballot, though? Oh, man. It don't make sense, though. I wanna. Yeah, I don't know. We've had a couple of people on there and trying to ask how much do you think Spygate played a role in that? That's what I'm saying. And it's funny because that's not my era, in my time. So my experience with Bill and like, what he taught me. Yeah. I'm like, nah. He first ballot, I remember I ran. He did a. He did a tackling drill. It's called sideline skinny. Yes, sir. Where he set up defenders. You run down the sideline, you do certain things. You. You make one defender stop his feet, make the other defender, and then you throw a stiff arm at the end. Man, I had a game, Tennessee Titans. I. I was on the sideline, man. The drill came to life, man. Really? I'm not even kidding, dog. And I said, this boy a guru. Yeah. And I know you know, I knew how to run with the football, but the, the repetition of that. At first I'm like, man, I hate this drill. But then I won the game for us. Yes. But he like, I told you, boy. Yeah. I like. You can't tell me, dog. So. So I think he like, that's different to me in a sense. But you got an opportunity to see it and I just want to tell people, no. Joe said the same thing. If you get him out of a situation where it's just not football. He does have a kind of laid back personality. He will joke, but you got to get him a way where it wins and losses don't matter because if it wins and losses matter, you're going to get Coach Dart. Yeah. You're going to get what you get. Don't talk to him. So I love that about him. You know what I'm saying? He's the ultimate competitor. Ultimate like coach of the game. Presenting. It looks different things. So he helped me a lot in my career. But he's big in situations because he's a situational guy. Because everything like this is going to come up at some point in time and I want to prepare you. He is not a believer that having you dive and put the football out to go across the goal line. You better not take. Put that ball out. It ain't. But boy, my boy was trolling me about fumbling. Why didn't it come back in the game what you said? Like trying to dive or just fumbling. Oh, he don't play. But what you saying? He care that much? You can't get him a possession turn over. It's all situation. So that messes with his mind. 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