Nightcap LIVE from Super Bowl Radio Row: Hour 2- Daniel Cormier, Ja'Marr Chase & Tee Higgins join!

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap LIVE from Super Bowl Radio Row – Hour 2

Guests: Daniel Cormier, Ja’Marr Chase, Tee Higgins
Host: Shannon Sharpe & co-hosts
Date: February 4, 2026

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Episode Overview

Main Theme:
In this packed hour from Super Bowl Radio Row, Shannon Sharpe leads lively discussions ranging from the evolution and commercialization of the UFC with Daniel Cormier, to candid and insightful conversations about football, player health, and off-field branding with NFL stars Ja’Marr Chase and Tee Higgins. The show captures the atmosphere on Radio Row with a steady flow of guests, hot Super Bowl takes, and authentic banter that blends sports knowledge with humor, life lessons, and behind-the-scenes perspectives.

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Key Segments & Discussions

1. Daniel Cormier on the UFC’s Present and Future

[02:07–29:00]

UFC’s Evolving Business Model

• Daniel Cormier (“DC”) discusses the UFC’s new broadcast deal with Paramount, ending exclusive pay-per-views for greater reach:
  • “It was one of the most watched fights in UFC history… because it was in so many homes, you could just download the app.” (05:48, DC)
  • Compares UFC’s new accessibility to other major sports leagues.

Jon Jones & Dream Fights

• Jon Jones at 205 vs. Heavyweight:
  • “Jon Jones is better at 205...It takes discipline to get back down to weight.” (03:07, DC)
  • DC and hosts debate whether Jones could return to light heavyweight and what fights fans want to see.
• Dream UFC matchups hoped for:
  • DC wants to see Alex Pereira at heavyweight and Tom Aspinall vs. Jon Jones (07:21+).
  • “I think Ilya Topuria and Islam Makhachev would be the fight.” (08:04, DC)

Why Some Fighters Become Legends

• On Jon Jones:
  • “At his absolute best, is there anybody in UFC history who was a better fighter than Jon Jones? No.” (10:14, DC)
• Discusses Conor McGregor’s legacy and the difficulty of returning after financial success:
  • “When you’re sleeping on silk sheets… it’s hard to get up and run six, seven miles every morning.” (11:21, DC, quoting Marvin Hagler)
  • “He’s still a draw. He can fill out any arena wherever he goes.” (11:57, group)
• Parallels with Muhammad Ali’s comeback years and overall fighter mentality.

Athlete Longevity, Transition, and Parenting

• DC on his son’s sports path and youth specialization:
  • “I want him to do both. I think it’s important to do both.” (25:54, DC)
  • Concern about comparisons: “I’ve heard kids going, ‘I’ll beat DC’s son.’ And I’m like, come on man, you didn’t beat me, you beat my son.” (26:35, DC)
• DC reminisces about his own journey, choosing wrestling over football, and the importance of self-motivation.

Notable Quote:

“This sport—man, I was a world champion for five years... I am more recognizable today because I talk about the UFC than when I was playing the game.” – Daniel Cormier (23:17)

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2. Super Bowl & NFL Team Analysis

[29:00–48:00]

Seahawks vs. Patriots – Who’s Favored?

• Most guests, including DC, pick the Seahawks for their strong defense.
  • “Collectively, at all three levels, the Seahawks are the better team defensively.” (45:32, D)
• Discussion on underappreciating the Patriots and how playoff games are decided, especially turnovers.
  • “If he [Sam Darnold] takes care of the football, they win. If he turns the ball over, they lose.” (46:07, C)
• Debate on “The Patriot Way,” team structure, and why New England should not be counted out.

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3. NBA Trade Deadline Banter

[32:12–47:00]

• Recap and analysis of NBA trades:
  • “The NBA is having trades, but they're not the trades that we're waiting for. … If you wanted to steal some shine from the Super Bowl, it would have to be a Giannis or a Ja [Morant] trade.” (36:36, D/C)
• Extended James Harden discussion—his career path and the story of his constant movement.
• Chris Paul’s move to the Toronto Raptors “to finish his last season” is mentioned as breaking news (80:39, C).

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4. Jordan Poyer on Career, Mindset, and Transition

[49:54–58:59]

• Returning “home” to Buffalo and thoughts on continuing to play:
  • “This was the first year I felt healthy in a long time... as I transition to whatever’s next, I’m a free agent right now. Buffalo is home.” (51:21, E)
• Mental health and athletes’ post-career transition:
  • “I struggled with alcohol for a long time... been sober for five years now. ... Football is what I do, it’s not who I am.” (54:31, E)
  • Advocates holistic events and mindfulness for athletes, describing “awareness” as crucial for performance and life after football.

Notable Quote:

“We are all more than athletes... we are all one. We are all connected beyond what you can even fathom.” – Jordan Poyer (56:48)

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5. Ja’Marr Chase & Tee Higgins: Candid Bengals Talk & Off-Field Life

[60:03–79:53]

Bengals’ Super Bowl Aspirations & Building a Contender

• On what it takes:
  • “Everybody knows the term, ‘defense wins championships.’ We gotta start that first… then we can worry about the offensive side.” (61:03, Ja’Marr Chase)
• Team needs:
  • Defensive line focus: “I would go and get somebody on the interior D-line.” (61:43, Tee Higgins)
  • Dream additions listed: “I said Maxx Crosby; he said Jeffery Simmons. That's two dogs we’re gonna need for sure.” (61:52, Chase and T)
• Keeping Joe Burrow healthy:
  • “Maybe [Joe Burrow] has to do more with himself… maybe the eating, you know what I'm saying?” (63:06, Chase)
  • Amusing McDonald’s references:
    • “I'm the only one that eat McDonald's and lager and ask him that at Malaga every morning.” (63:37, Chase)

NFL Receiver Duos & Dynamics

• “Y’all the best duo in football?”
  • “Yeah, I believe so.” (66:45, Chase and T)
• Favorite other duo: CeeDee Lamb & George Pickens.

Insights into Offensive Philosophy

• On targets and keeping receivers involved:
  • “If you give it to me early—I’m not saying you gotta throw me 15 balls in the first quarter… but give me an opportunity. I just want to touch the ball.” (71:20, F)

Branding, Podcasting, and Fashion

• Both players detail off-field pursuits:
  • Ja’Marr’s new podcast “Chasing No One,” and plans for Twitch streaming and YouTube.
  • Tee details his fashion ventures, including collaborations with Fabletics and upcoming drops.
• The impact and meaning of fashion among today’s players:
  • “My clothes just make me feel better about my character when I’m talking at the end of the day.” (78:24, Tee Higgins)
• Origins of their close friendship:
  • “First year… he come in, took a year off, he dropping balls. I go to receiver coach, I’m like, ‘Troy, man, I don’t know, man…’ but then just working together, the bond got closer and closer.” (76:08, T)

Notable and Fun Moments

• “Let’s turn on the film and look at duo tapes… that’s all I need to say.” (67:07, Chase)
• On coaching and player engagement:
  • “Coaches at times overcomplicate things. … If you want to get a player the ball, you can get the player the ball.” (72:12, D)

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Standout Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “At his absolute best… was there anybody in UFC history a better fighter than Jon Jones? No.” – Daniel Cormier [10:14]
• “When you’re sleeping on silk sheets, it’s hard to get up and run six, seven miles every morning.” – Daniel Cormier quoting Marvin Hagler [11:21]
• “I play the game to make it to the Super Bowl... if we’re not doing that, we’re not doing nothing for the organization.” – Ja’Marr Chase [62:29]
• “If you walk into, as great as [James Harden] is, if every room that you walk into and it smells, it might be you the dookie.” – Shannon Sharpe [38:29]
• “My clothes just make me feel better about my character… that's going to give me that edge. … That’s just how my mind works about it.” – Tee Higgins [78:24]

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Recurring Themes & Tone

• Camaraderie and Real Talk: The episode shines with the guests’ chemistry, playful jabs, and honest talk about challenges in sports and life.
• Balance of Entertainment & Insight: In typical Club Shay Shay fashion, football and fighting breakdowns effortlessly pivot into lessons about mindset, transition, and the realities of the athlete’s journey.
• Behind-the-Scenes Access: Listeners are treated to an “inside the locker room” feel, whether it’s Chase and Higgins debating burger joints or Cormier’s reflections on parenting and legacy.

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Important Timestamps

• DC on UFC’s evolution: [05:48]
• Jon Jones & dream fights: [03:07–08:20]
• Best ever UFC fighters debate: [10:14]
• Daniel Cormier on athlete longevity: [14:12]
• Bengals duo talk with Chase/Higgins: [60:03–67:11]
• Branding, podcasts, fashion: [74:03–79:14]
• Chris Paul NBA trade news: [80:39]

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Closing Thoughts

If you missed the live show, this episode delivers a rich blend of sports knowledge, candid athlete experiences, and the contagious atmosphere of Super Bowl week. Whether you’re a fight fan, NFL junkie, or just appreciate great conversations, there’s something here for everyone—complete with plenty of laughs and wisdom.

Transcript

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[C]

We got a living legend coming in here. He is a former light heavyweight. A former heavyweight.

[A]

You gonna get him up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You better not mess with Kamaru man.

[C]

DC I've been trying to tell him I've been fighting.

[A]

He want to fight Everybody.

[C]

He does. He does. He just saying that Daniel Cormier stay.

[A]

Away from Kamaru, man.

[D]

Nah, we gonna go on the White House card, me and him.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

D.C. yeah. Talk to. We had Dana on, and Dana's like, I don't know. You know, it might be a possibility that JJ make that. You make that White House card. He and Pierre.

[A]

If he.

[C]

If.

[A]

Listen, I think if he. If Jones decides to go to 205 and fight Pereira, that's the fight. That's the fight.

[C]

You don't think Pierre can go up at heavyweight.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. No, man.

[A]

I think. I gotta be honest with y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

I think Jon Jones is better at 205, right?

[C]

What?

[A]

I think he better at 205. Let me tell you why. It takes discipline to get back down to weight.

[C]

Yes, yes.

[A]

So he'd have to be so disciplined in his preparation. That's why he was so good at 205. Because he was having to live so clean to make sure he can get down to the weight and do everything the right way. So, yeah, I think him And Pereira at 205 is the fight.

[C]

You think he can get back down there after being down after being a heavy for like four or five years?

[A]

And me and Jon Jones did a reality show together.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Just recently. And he a big boy.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But he not. He not. He kind of like, you know, when, like a tall, skinny dude get a little fat.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's how you look right now.

[D]

But would that take away from his skill set?

[A]

No.

[D]

If you're able to get down after being so big. Not so big, but being bigger for so long, does it take away or deteriorate your skill set?

[B]

If you.

[D]

If you try to fight yourself down to a certain weight class just to fight Chad?

[A]

I think. I think this dude is such a good fighter.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

That if he can get down to that weight, he gonna be better. Because he's gonna be faster.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

He gonna be in better shape cardio wise.

[D]

Right.

[A]

The way he looked against Stipe Miotric was crazy. He beat him so bad.

[C]

Dog it quick, too. I mean, I felt bad.

[A]

You know why Stipe took all, like, he waited so long to fight him. How you gonna not fight for two years to come back, be 41 years old?

[C]

You can't fight him your first. You can't after.

[A]

Not after two years off. Right. You're 41 years old. You've been a fireman for two years. John beat him bad, man. Yeah, John beat him bad. And then John, you know what's mad? You Know what's messed up about John Jones, man? It's crazy, man. You know what this brother did?

[C]

What?

[A]

Stipe Miochic is a nice guy.

[C]

Yeah, Right.

[A]

But John, him and I have, like, such a bad history. So he don't have to, like, search for stuff to make himself mad at me because I'm constantly on his head, right? Stipe Miochic and him, they had a press conference. Jon Jones all of a sudden, talk about. And then Stipe said, I'm a bad dad. Stipe looking at him like, I never said that. Steve looking so surprised, like, I never even said that. But John, in his mind, trying to make himself mad at Stipe, right?

[D]

Okay.

[A]

He want to kick his ass. And so he did. He looking around like, man, I never said nothing about this, man.

[C]

Children, what about this new partnership, UFC and Paramount? Now, it's. If you have the app, you can watch. I mean, the streaming service, you could watch it. So now you're going to be in millions and millions of homes. You don't have the pay per view fight. And I think that's a great thing. I think you're going to be able to reach a larger audience because it's free.

[A]

Hey, listen, the other day we had the first fight. It's called a numbered event. Now. They're not pay per views.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And it was two weeks ago, we had Justin Gaethje versus Patty Pimblett.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

It was one of. It was one of the most watched fights in UFC history.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

Because it was in so many holes, you could just download the app. I think it's a big win for the ufc, and I think it puts us in line with so many of the other sports out there in the world. You don't pay to watch NFL games.

[C]

Nope.

[A]

You don't pay to watch basketball. Now you don't have to pay that extra money to watch the ufc.

[C]

Are you surprised at how Gaethje. How good Gaethje looked against Patty?

[A]

I was. I was not surprised. I was surprised that Patty didn't try to wrestle him more. Right. Patty seemed very, very open to standing.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

With Justin. And he's going to be Justin Gateshead. Also, you're not beating Max Holloway. Who you. You're not beating Max Holloway. You're not lasting three minutes with Max Holloway. Chat. I'm sorry.

[C]

What about. What about tomorrow?

[D]

Max too small.

[A]

Max.

[D]

Max too small.

[A]

Hey, listen, you told him, right? Too? You told him, right? You were like, hey, man, listen, man, you ain't fighting this dude.

[D]

You're not gonna train me.

[A]

I Could train you all I want.

[C]

But you ain't gonna be tomorrow, Usman.

[D]

Man, I'm gonna be. Man, I'm. I would stand. Hey, I want to stand right there.

[A]

I'm gonna start wrestling with you.

[D]

No, I don't want to wrestle. I want.

[A]

You will.

[C]

But guess what? He say he want Francis, too.

[A]

Francis? You don't want Francis, man. I don't want Francis, man. None of us want Francis, man. Why you can't get no fight?

[D]

Listen, now that I think about it, right, with your extensive knowledge of UFC and where it's going, where it's evolving to, is there a fight that you haven't seen, that you would love to see?

[A]

Now that I have to see?

[D]

That you have to see.

[A]

There's a couple, right? There's a couple fights that I want to see bad. Honestly, I do want to see Pereira at heavyweight. I would like to see Tom Aspinall fight Jon Jones. I think after the last time when Tom Aspinall got poked, he didn't look good, though.

[C]

And Jon's like, y' all want me to fight that? You know how Johnny is, man. That's what. That's what he's thinking.

[A]

No, no, he. No, he said it because the reality is Tom had this. This aura of invincibility about him. And then when he was fighting against Cyril Gane, yes, Cyril was fighting much better than people thought. So John, like, yo, man, this dude can't fight me, right? But I think that's a good fight. I think Ilya Topori and Islam Makhachev would be the fight that Ilya Topori.

[C]

Is something else, man, Throwing them hands, but. But you know, the Russians, they just trying to take you down. They gonna get you down now. They gonna make you tired.

[A]

He put it on Jack Della Madeleine and didn't he? I couldn't believe how easy he handled him. Yeah, he handled him real good. But Ilia Tapori and Islam, because that.

[C]

Iliad, that's the fight.

[A]

That's the fight.

[C]

Because Ilya said, patty, you messed up the biggest payday of your life losing to a 38 year old.

[A]

Ilya be knocking dudes out. Yeah, Ilya be knocking them out, man.

[C]

But do you think that'll be a better fight? Because Ilya is not looking to take it to the mat, and Patty definitely was not looking to take it to the mat. So everybody's just looking to throw Holloway. Is it going to be a situation where they come to the center, read like Gaethje and Holloway and just throw leather?

[A]

Go, Justin Gaethje is my friend. I'mma tell him. Don't do that with Ilia. Tori, man. You can't do that with him. Yeah, he hit so hard when him and Charles Oliveira were fighting.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

By the time Charles Oliveira hit the ground, he was already sleeping, man. Ilya hit him two to three times on the way down. So, like, before he even hit the ground, Illy hit him with the right hand. By the time Charles is, like, knocked out and falling backwards, Ilya done hit him with an uppercut. He hit him with another right hand. And then some guys. Some guys, actually, you fall down. They. They do like that. The referee, like eight minutes old. Ilya jump on you. He hit you with a couple, and he don't.

[D]

He don't care.

[A]

Let me tell you something, man. When I hit Stipe and he went down, Yeah. I couldn't hit him again fast enough. I don't know how these dudes got the. The, The. The. The.

[B]

The.

[A]

The discipline to not hit him. Because you. You in your mind, you crazy, because.

[C]

You don't want to make. You don't. You want to make sure he don't get back up.

[A]

So I'm Shannon. When that. Man, when you fighting another man.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And he fall, all you want to do is jump on him. Right, right, right. I jump on him and hit him.

[C]

You hit him?

[A]

I hit him three times.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

By the time the referee got where the ref was at, his head done. When his head hit the mat, I said, oh, he done.

[C]

Is it at his absolute best. At his absolute best. Is there anybody in UFC history was a better fighter than Jon Jones? No.

[E]

No.

[D]

Not even.

[C]

Not St. Pierre.

[E]

No.

[C]

Not Anderson. The truth. Not Demetrius.

[A]

Hey, let me tell you something. People like to say. You be hating on Jon Jones, man. You can beat you. I said, listen, man, and I told you this whenever I did your podcast.

[C]

You did. You did.

[A]

I was so good when he beat me that second time that if he beat me that time, I don't think nobody could beat him. He was so. Plus, he tall. He got long arms.

[C]

84 inch reach.

[A]

Yep. He got good knees, elbows. We did a. Him and I did that thing together, and we were talking about boxing, and he was like, if we boxed, it would be much harder fight.

[D]

Right.

[A]

He goes, because I kick Daniel a lot, and I need Daniel a lot.

[D]

Right.

[A]

And I think that is why. Or a thing that people underestimate about him. I don't think in terms of skills, maybe Khabib. Maybe Khabib was as good, but Conor McGregor was real good. Whenever he was like, on his game.

[D]

Will he ever fight again, you think, Connor. Yeah.

[A]

You know, that's.

[C]

Tell him what. You. Tell him what you told me on the thing. When somebody make 200, $300 million, made.

[A]

All that money, it's hard to get up. It's hard to get up.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You remember. Remember what Marvin Hackler said way back in the day, right? He said, man, you sleeping on silk sheets, you got to get up and run six, seven miles every morning. Here's the thing about Conor, though. I always want to ask somebody, like, from not within the. The ufc, like, right? Do y' all think y' all gonna watch him? Because you. You have seen athletes. Yes, so many. Now, obviously, Conor has started to live the gimmick a little bit. Right? Right. He lives like Ric Flair said he was living the gimmick.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Conor's living the gimmick a little bit. Do y' all think Connor gonna fight again? Do you think he can pull himself away from all that lifestyle?

[C]

No.

[A]

The yachts, the party and all that stuff and get in Camp D.C. he's still a draw.

[C]

He's a draw.

[D]

He's still a draw.

[A]

He's a massive draw.

[D]

He can fill out any arena wherever he goes.

[C]

But he hasn't looked good in a B. When's the last time he looked good, Aldo?

[A]

No, when he yelled, when he showed.

[D]

Hold on, D.C. unknown. Even though he hasn't looked good, he's still a draw.

[A]

He keeps.

[D]

Still going to tune in.

[A]

But let me ask you, wins or loses. Let me ask you this, though. He's selling so many. He said it the other day, he goes, my business is pay per view. Because when Khabibi sold three and a half million pay per view, right? Do you listen, Jon? I was on a pay per view, me and Brock Lesnar, we sold 1.2 million buys. Yeah, I know what that check looks like. Him and Khabib did three times that. In terms of just pay per view, right? What's the number that you can get Conor McGregor in the cage? Right? What? You got to pay him now that he cannot sell pay per view to get him to fight?

[C]

Because he's already got 300, 400 million in the bank account.

[A]

He sold that liquor. Yeah, he did eat. But, but, but do you think he can get in the camp? Because you're right, he is a draw. I just told y' all at the start of this, right, we had one of the biggest fights that we ever had in UFC history.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Kind of fights is going to double that.

[C]

Yeah, No, I don't think you can get him back in the. I don't think.

[A]

You don't think he back?

[C]

Nope.

[A]

Why?

[C]

Because he got that much money in the train. Like, you'd have to train to be able to do it, but they got.

[A]

Certain fighters to give him.

[D]

Didn't Tyson Fury say, I'm retiring?

[A]

Tyson Fury retired three times.

[D]

Three times. What made me come out of retirement?

[A]

Dc, I don't know why Tyson Fury keep fighting.

[C]

But ufc. But ufc. UFC is different than boxing. Boxing, I ain't got to worry about nothing but these. Yep. In the ufc, I gotta worry about these. These, this. Guillotine choke, Rear naked choke, triangle choke, arm bar.

[A]

You're right.

[C]

I got too many things to worry about. These.

[A]

You're right.

[C]

And when you've made that kind of money.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Oh. So you and I, we talk about it all the time. The Peyton Mannings and the Tom Brady's and the guy that's made hundreds of million dollars to steal, but all they're doing is throwing the football. Ain't nobody needing to just imagine if they didn't have no offensive line. And now you got to come out there.

[A]

Nobody protecting.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Because when you go, when you go into the octagon, like I always say. Hey. They say, man, are you nervous about this tv? And I'm like, bro, I fought in front of millions of people in my underwear. You got some shorts on, gloves.

[B]

Yeah, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So nothing makes me nervous anymore.

[D]

Right.

[A]

But, but, but to do that as a very, very rich man.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

And get hit and get kneed and elbow. What if you get cut? You start going, God, I really need to do this. No more.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Right.

[C]

And as you get older, it gets harder to train. You don't recover as quick. You. Like when you, you can just pop out of bed when you're in your 20s, you're like, oh, let's go do it again. I'm not sore. You start getting in your late 30s. Yeah. Nah, I take the day off.

[A]

Hey, hey. You start. And again. He hasn't fought in like four and a half years. Cause he broke his leg last time.

[F]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah, he did.

[A]

He broke his leg.

[C]

And you know when you take that kind of layoff and when Muhammad Ali missed, basically missed three years, and that was because of the Vietnam War. He was never the same.

[A]

He was never the same guy.

[C]

He was never the same.

[A]

And he was in his prime, and he was still young when he came back. He was still young when he came.

[C]

Back, but he was never the same there's nothing like fighting when you fight.

[B]

Nope.

[C]

There's nothing like Ocho. We talk about this. Oh, training. Oh, oh. Off season conditioning. You get in shape by playing football. Yeah. You do become a better fighter by fighting.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

All that spark. And then you took time off and he's not a. Conor's not a guy. Oh, he taking time off and he ship every day. No, he's not. He's on a yacht with his shirt off.

[A]

Yep. Yeah, he is.

[C]

With 30 baddies on the pool.

[A]

Yeah, he is. That's the truth.

[C]

Yeah, that's the truth.

[A]

That's the absolute truth.

[C]

Man, this game. We know. I know you love football. Yep. Who you got? You got Patriots or the Seahawks?

[A]

Seahawks.

[C]

What you like about the Seahawks?

[A]

Defense.

[D]

I knew it. I knew it.

[A]

Defense. Yeah, man, I tell you, man, they would be. Hey, let me tell you something. That's a damn shame what they be doing to the 49ers, huh? Two times back to back. Hey, man, we. I was at a wrestling tournament. Yeah, we in. We in Los Angeles. We get done, we go watch the game. I got some of the. Cause I live in the Bay.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

So they love they faith. Faithful to the Bay. You know, they put. They don't. I said, man, that's cute, man. That's real cute. Faithful to the Bay, they said, we gonna win tonight. They said, because coach is the type of guy, Shanahan. The type of guy that in that last game of the season, he don't show that much. He held some stuff back.

[C]

No, he didn't.

[A]

He. He not. We didn't want to give him everything because it. It's easier if we don't get home. Home field advantage. We still can go get him in Seattle, right? I said, man, y' all tripping if you believe that, man. They went up there to Lumen Field. Seattle don't put it on them. Bad.

[C]

They did.

[A]

It was bad.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And I'm watching that. And I'm watching that. And then I watch New England and Denver. Now, the game was a good game, right? But you struggling to put up points against Denver. How you going to put points up against Seattle? I'm sorry, man. I ain't trying to disrespect. I ain't trying to disrespect for Denver.

[C]

We needed our quarterback.

[A]

Y' all needed y quarterback. The fact that y' all played that good without the quarterback is the defense.

[C]

Yeah, defense good. But, boy, I heard you talk about the fight that was just in Australia. Boo.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Are you surprised that he's still fighting at that level at that age.

[A]

Dude, they keep talking about retirement, man. And then he just. He, Diego Lopez is dangerous.

[C]

Yes, he.

[A]

He beat him worse than he did the first time. He's so smart, dude. And you, hey, I swear to God. Have you ever. Have you met him? Have you guys met him?

[D]

No, I haven't met him.

[E]

No.

[A]

Man, he's so small. He's so short. He might be five, six.

[C]

Is he small? He's smaller than Mighty Mouse.

[A]

No. No.

[C]

How was it? How was Mighty Mouse so that good?

[A]

He the best, bro.

[C]

How much Mighty Mouse weight he fought at?

[A]

125. But guess what Dushan.

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[A]

He was the he one time was behind the dude. He got the dude with his hands Locke him. Demetrius Johnson threw the guy in the air like he threw him up in the air. He releases him when the guy starts falling because gravity takes hold. Yeah, he puts him in the arm bar. He called it. And then he said that I called that the mouse trap. He said, I call that the mouse trap. I said, man, did you make that up? He said, I made that up. He threw him in the air. By the time the dude hit the ground, Demetrius got him in arm bar. He tapped. He was good, man. That brother was good.

[C]

Are you surprised? Because I remember and people don't remember. They used to have the U the way they used to fight. They didn't have weight classes. And you fought and you kept fighting and you fight. You know, you fight. You might fight three, four times in a night. And the last man standing, one. Yep, yep, yep. When they had horse Gracie. Yep. Yeah. They had Ken Shamrock. Yep, yep. They had the big heavy hitter Dan to be severed. Yep, yep, yep.

[A]

You've been watching this, huh?

[C]

The first fight. The first two fights were in Denver. I saw him.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And so I was like, I don't know if that's fair. This little ass. Because I remember when the horse Gracie came out there, I was like, this man, this big old dude about to tell this little dude up submissions manager, he got on. He.

[A]

I said, why are you laying down?

[C]

Oh, he better get his little ass. I'm looking at. I was like, he better get off of that. They make a. And I don't. But he did something the next day, you know, the dude was like tapping. Yeah. Did you think UFC would ever get to what it got? No, because I asked Dana, Dana's like, no. Dana said, we just bought. We bought UFC logo and some gear for $2 million.

[A]

$2 million.

[C]

And now it's worth what, seven, eight billion?

[A]

Seven, eight billion.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But. But that's the thing, right? Credit to the Fertitta brothers, to Dana, for having the vision of what this thing could have been. Because at its core, right, we all love fighting.

[D]

Yes, yes.

[A]

Right. If you're on the football field, if you're on the basketball court, if you're on a playground, anywhere. The moment people start fighting, what do we all do?

[C]

Circle around, watch.

[A]

Right? So having the vision to recognize that fighting is something that everybody wants to enjoy.

[C]

And the universal. Everybody knows. Universal.

[A]

Everybody thinks they can fight.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So let's figure out a way to make people tap into it. And that's exactly what they did. It's. Dude, this sport. I was a world champion for five years.

[C]

Yes, sir.

[A]

I am more recognizable today because I talk about the UFC than I was even when I was playing the game. It's crazy.

[C]

And I think the thing is, what they did is that everybody thinks their discipline is the best. So we're going to see what a karate guy could do against a Jiu Jitsu guy. What he could do against a judo guy. Of course he could do against a Sambo guy.

[A]

Start.

[C]

Right. That's what it was about.

[A]

But. But today I think that question has been answered. It's the wrestler.

[C]

It's the wrestler.

[A]

It's the wrestler.

[C]

He better than the Jiu Jitsu.

[A]

The wrestler's the guy. Cuz the wrestler, the wrestler determines where the fight takes place.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

If you got the Jiu Jitsu guy, you don't let him take you down and you beat him in the standup. If you got the standup guy, you take him down and you beat him on the ground. It's the wrestler, see, the wrestler's the guy.

[D]

That's what makes me so special. That's what makes me so special because I'm a wrestler. I'm a two time state championship champion. What are you talking about? I don't wrestle.

[C]

What, 115 pounds?

[D]

No, 205 in high school.

[C]

Boy, them two out of five was for your ass. You like Mighty Mouse threw that guy up in there.

[D]

Two time state champion in wrestling. And then my st. My. I can stand up and go with the best of them.

[A]

You from Florida, aren't you?

[D]

Y' all from Liberty City.

[C]

They don't do the.

[B]

But you.

[A]

You a two time state champion. Yeah, I got some friends in Florida, man. I'm a. Fact check that.

[D]

Fact check it, man. Tell the chat to fact check it.

[C]

You. You might like. I'm thinking more like the Midwest is where the wrestlers.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Midwest, Ohio, stuff like that. Iowa.

[A]

Iowa. Oklahoma. I went to Oklahoma State.

[C]

Pennsylvania.

[A]

Pennsylvania, they got the best high school wrestling in the country.

[C]

Do they?

[A]

Yeah, they be beating us, man. We got close to California, man, we beat them Pennsylvania kids beginning us.

[C]

We gotta. California, y' all gotta stick to football in the track and field running them country. Boy, when the weather get cold. Yep.

[A]

So you go inside start wrestling.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yep, you go inside, start wrestling.

[C]

So when you get your season like IV and stuff like that, where it gets cold and those guys see when the weather's warm. So you can run all you can. You know, track and field, you can train all around. Football, you can train all around. That's why the warm weather states do better in football, football, track and field.

[A]

But baseball.

[C]

Yep. That's why you going to the game.

[A]

I'm not. So my son. My son has a wrestling tournament.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And we're going to the East. We're going to Virginia. So I'm going to change the weather for my son to wrestle. Man, it's cold too.

[F]

Like it.

[C]

Is that what he wants to do? He wants to call and dance football.

[A]

Like football, man, he like football. That dude is aching. Play some football. He hit now, Shannon. He can tackle now he's tackle. Even wrestling his own life.

[C]

He a linebacker, right.

[A]

He weigh 173 pounds. He in eighth grade. And he got to be almost as tall as me already. That he mean to. I like like the tackle.

[D]

I like it.

[C]

So. So what is it going to go? You you want him to do both? You want him to rest?

[A]

I want him to do both. I think it's important to do both. I, I don't think that you should. I, I think that in most sports today, kids specialize. I think you got to enjoy your life, man. Plus, if, if it helps with other things, it helps with everything in life.

[C]

It.

[A]

Does he specialize in one sport.

[D]

Are you one of those people, parents, that, that pushes and pushes and pushes and pushes. You got to do this, you got to do that, or you just let him, whatever he decides to do, you okay with it?

[A]

I haven't pushed him that much. I haven't pushed him that much, and I think I could have pushed him more. Right, right. Because when you wrestle or you fight and your dad is, is, is me, it's kind of hard, right? Because I've heard kids going, I'll be DC's son. And I'm like, I don't want them to like him.

[D]

Comparison.

[A]

Yeah, come on, man. Like, you didn't beat me, right? You beat my son.

[C]

But that's his claim to fame.

[A]

That's, that's. They claim to fit, right. So I kind of didn't push him all that much, Right. But now it's like, I'm doing a little bit more like. So he's in his gap year this year?

[D]

Yes, sir.

[A]

We're like. So he was in, he's in eighth grade, but he's doing like a, it's almost like a gray shirt year where he takes another eighth grade year before he goes into high school.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So now he gets up in the morning, he lifts his weights, right? Then he goes and he does his, he does pull pads. I got him doing boxing, right. Then he goes to school, and then he might wrestle a little bit. Then he goes home and he sleeps.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And I. This dude is gained probably 20 pounds because you, you grow when you sleep, right? So during the day, this dude's sleeping. He's like so disciplined now. I'm so proud of that kid, man. He's doing a good job.

[C]

How much bigger you think he's going to get?

[A]

I bet, I Bet he'll be 210, 215 pounds when he's a senior. Maybe 220. I think he'll get big. 6, 1, 6 2. I'm the shortest guy in my family.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

So probably 6'1, 6'2, 215, 220 when he graduates high school.

[C]

You did play some football.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Do you wish you had stuck with football?

[A]

No. Let me tell you something, man. Let me tell you something. Were y' all on good football teams in high school?

[C]

We were decent.

[D]

We were decent. We were. Okay.

[A]

So did you have people, you know, growing up in the South?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Right. Everybody think they go into the NFL, man.

[C]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

Everybody think they go in the NFL. So if a dude is like all state honorable mention, he like, the greatest thing in the world.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But he don't want to take no responsibility. He don't want to lead. And so I was on teams where we had, like a couple good dudes and they, but they were like, very, like, cancerous.

[C]

Right.

[A]

The only team that was good was the year I was a senior.

[D]

Right.

[A]

You guys know the Cupid Shuffle?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, of course.

[A]

We went to high school together. That's one of my boys. Okay, so we were like the leaders of the team. And we were a good team.

[C]

Right.

[A]

But before that, it was bad. So by the time I was done with football, I was like, man, I'm on the wrestling mat. And I, I, I done made the United States world team for 16 year olds, right? So I'm traveling the world, wrestling going. I know that if I do what I'm supposed to do, I'm winning state championships, I'm wrestling in world championships, but on the football field, I can't take all these guys with me, right? So I was like, I'm, I'm always gonna wrestle first.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Dc, you're the man.

[A]

Boy, thank y' all for having us, man. I appreciate y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

I love y' all chemistry, boys.

[C]

Appreciate you. Dc Daniel. DC Cormier, one of the great MMA mixed martial artists of all time. He could wrestle, he could fight standing up, but he's an unbelievable fighter. Appreciate you stopping by. Dc, We wait. No, go ahead, hold me down right now. That was a, I mean, non stop. That was two full hours of complete guest. And we're not done. We have another hour left. But it's been some great guys stopping by and, and sharing their stories from the season. Everybody, I don't know if you guys have noticed, everybody that stopped by has pick the Seattle Seahawks to win this game. They're not a whole lot of people. That's giving New England a whole lot of credit. But I think that's a, I personally think that's a mistake because I think New England is a very good football team. And I don't think they're getting the credit they deserve. They'll be. But everybody, it doesn't matter whether it's Coach Belichick or Vrael or whomever is there. You hear about the militaristic style, the structure in which the Patriots operate. And I believe there's only one way to do things, and that's the right way. And you have this, this system in place. Nobody is bigger than the system. Nobody is bigger than the team. And when you get that, you get everybody fall in line. There are no exceptions. You know what the standard is. You know what the expectations are of every individual that comes into this building. And so therefore, you don't have any problem with that. So I'm very excited about all the guys that we've had, come on and share their stories about what happened this season with their team and what could potentially happen in this Super Bowl. But it's been an unbelievable morning for us. Just getting started for me. I got a. I'm taping an episode of Club Shay at 3:00'. Clock. So I'm gonna run back to the hotel, grab something to eat, lay down for a quick second, and then off to tape Club Shay Shay. And then I got my Laportier party tonight. It's starting at 8:00 and. And then tomorrow is the busy day for us because we're right back here at Nightcap Radio Row and the live show tomorrow night. So we got a busy. I do have a busy next, you know, 36 hours or so. But this is what you sign up for. This is why you do all this, because you really, really appreciate and love what you do. But Chad, we want to thank you guys for joining us for Nightcap Radio Row. All the guests. That's cut.

[F]

That's. Come on.

[C]

Kendrick Bourne, Daniel Cormier, Romeo Dobbs. We're supposed to have Ashton Genty and Jordan Poirier. Kamari Laster came on, Jay Glazer came on, Tyquan Thornton came on, Fred Warner and Romeo Dobbs. So we've had a basically two hours steady stream of guys coming on, talking about their season, talking about what they need to do in order to make sure their team is in this situation next year. And some even like, you know what, Seattle, they're good at all three. They're good at every level on both sides of the football. They're a physical team. They get after the quarterback, they can run the football, they can throw it. We know with jsn, Raheem Shahid and Sam Darnold. So everybody that we've picked.

[F]

Okay.

[C]

We. They just expect the, the Seattle to win this ball game. And I, I felt that kind of way the last time I. Situation Seattle and, and the Patriots, when Seattle did what they did on, on the goal line, I don't still can't explain that. But here we are at Radio Row. It's great to see people. I've seen a lot of people walk by throwing my hands up. So when you see me do this from time to time, there's somebody walking by, I recognize that them, they recognize me. And it's basically, hey, how you doing? I'm busy right now, I'll catch you on my way out. But again, thank you Chad for joining us. This is what makes it so special is that we do this and you guys that have been supporting us from the very jump and I cannot thank you enough. I'm trying to think who's our ash, who we got coming up next. Okay, our next guest is going to be the running back, number 20, the number six pick in the 2025 draft for the Las Vegas Raiders. He had 975 rush yards, five touchdowns, called for another 346 yards and five touchdowns. Ashton Genti is going to be joining us shortly. He's wrapping up an interview across the hall and he'll be joining us shortly. Ocho had to go to only a 75, 80 old person has a weaker bladder than Ocho but he had to take off and go to the bathroom. But he'll be back shortly. So I'm holding it down in the meantime. Hopefully. Guys, you got your tickets because Nightcap Live at the Earth Theater tomorrow night starting at 8pm so if you're in the area, the meet and greet tickets are sold out but there are a few general admission tickets left. So, so if you're in the area, if you're a fa, a Patriots fan, you're a Seattle fan or if you're just a fan of NFL or you just want to pass the time and have, have a few laughs, got a great jam packed show for you tomorrow night. Can't wait to to get out and see the fans because you guys make it all worthwhile. So looking forward to seeing you guys the the meet and greet. Looking forward to seeing a lot of people in the building tomorrow night to have some fun. We got, like I said, we got a very, very jam packed show for you tomorrow night and looking forward to seeing you guys in attendance. But in the meantime. Oh oh, just then we got another the Chicago Bulls are trading Kobe white, Mike Conley Jr. To the Charlotte Charlotte Hornets for Colin Sexton and Usman Diang and three second round picks Kobe White to the Hornets, Mike Conley to the Hornets, Colin Sexton to the Bulls. Kobe White goes back to North Carolina. You know, remember he was attended the University of North Carolina, so he's back in the home state where he went to college. Mike Conley came from Minnesota. Most, most people know him being a Memphis Grizzly. He was at Minnesota, but he knew that wasn't going to be his final stop. And they, they tried to accommodate him to get him somewhere where he'll still be able to play. But Chicago Bulls are trading Kobe, right. Mike Conley Jr. To the Charlotte Hornets for Colin Sexton and Usman Diang and he's in three second round picks. So this, this NBA trade is trying to steal. Vamos is trying to steal, is trying to steal some shine from the Super Bowl. Another trade. The Chicago Bulls are trading Kobe White, Mike Conley Jr. To Charlotte Hornets for Colin Sector, Usman Diang and three second round picks. Kobe White to the Hornets, Mike Conley Jr. To the Hornets and Colin Sexton to the Bulls. Colin Sexton had just gotten there because he was traded from Utah. Remember he started his career at Cleveland, ended up going to Utah in the, the Donovan Mitchell trade trade.

[D]

Right.

[C]

And now he's on the move again.

[D]

It's the NBA. The NBA is having trades, but they're not the, the trades that we're waiting for. It hasn't been enough of the big boys to steal the shine away from the Super Bowl.

[C]

Well, there's not a trade that can happen because steal the shine from two bowl. I mean you look, you had James Harden traded and, and, and listening to Brian Windhorse, he says that, you know, all the pieces are not coming together for the Giannis trade. So basically you'd probably need, I mean and if you wanted to steal some shine from the super bowl, it would.

[D]

Have to be a Giannis or a Jaw trade.

[C]

You know you're gonna have to probably get a Steph Curry trade. You're gonna have to get a Steph Curry or LeBron James trade, right. Just to, to, to, to summons up something, right. And then possibly steal some of the funding.

[D]

You mentioned Harden, but Harden is, is moved so many times him being traded like okay, yeah, he's just being traded again. So with that we're used to that buddy. Giannis or Ja, that'd be. Or LeBron.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Even though if we, if he was the veto in trade clause, you know, behind closed doors and all of a sudden we see a move with him, you know, today that would be, that would take much of the shine away.

[C]

I think the thing is, is that with Harden is that. I don't, I don't know. Look, you know, you hear the reports, he wanted a two year extension at 40 plus million dollars a year. That's not kind of the direction that the Clippers are wanting to go in. They wanted to have, they want to have cap space for 2027. Some of these guys are going to be available. So we really don't know kind of the direction what's true or not true. But all I know is that he was unhappy. And look, if you go back and study Houston, Houston gave him everything that he wanted. He wanted Dwight Howard, they got him Dwight Howard. Then all of a sudden he didn't want Dwight Howard, they got him Chris Paul, then all of a sudden he didn't want Chris Paul, they got him Russell Westbrook, then all of a sudden he didn't want Russell Westbrook. And you know what? My time in Houston is up. I want to go to Brooklyn. He goes to Brooklyn, he pairs with Kyrie and kd. And then all of a sudden he wasn't happy there.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

He says, you know what? I want to go to the guy that draft that, that's, that brought me over to Houston, Daryl Morey. He's in Philly. I want to go to Philly. Yes, he went to Philly. And then he goes to Philly and he's paired with Joel Embiid. And we know Joel Embiid, his injury history. We'll talk about that another date and time.

[D]

James Harden is one of those.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

When things ain't going right, he gonna move.

[C]

Maybe he the one that's reason why it's not going right. You notice all the teams that he's been on that's not been going right.

[D]

You think with a player his magnitude.

[C]

If you walk into, as great as he is, if every room that you walk into and it smells, it might be you the dookie. I'm just saying. I'm just saying that might be you the dookie. So with that being said. Cause think about it, Ocho. They've. Everywhere he's been, they've given him everything that he's wanted.

[B]

Right?

[D]

Right.

[C]

He had a guy with Joel Embiid that won the mvp and he's like, well, you know, I, I don't really get to do my thing, bro. You got the ball.

[D]

Oh, in your hands.

[C]

Yeah, you got the ball.

[A]

Right.

[C]

And look, I, I, I get it. I mean, he's like, look, I still got a little leverage and I'm trying to go, I'm gonna try to swing I'm gonna try to swing this hammer while I still have it.

[D]

Is this his last?

[C]

No, I don't, I don't, I don't think. I don't. I don't think it's going to be his last stop.

[D]

And that's going to be exciting for Cleveland, though. That's going to be exciting. I like it.

[C]

I mean, normally, normally you don't have the ball, Harden. Well, I think it's going to be him and Mitchell because Donovan Mitchell works best with the ball in his hand.

[D]

See, that's the problem. So you got two of the same players almost. You got two scores. You got two players that need the ball in their hands to be able to facilitate. And can Donovan Mitchell play off the ball? Can James Harden. I don't even see James Harden playing off the ball.

[C]

They can, but they're most effective with the ball.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. Can't. No, there's no such thing as can that level of player, but they're most effective with the ball in their hand. And you don't normally see guys that say, you know what, I want to go to Cleveland. Normally most people are trying to get out of Cleveland. Yeah, nobody's trying to go into Cleveland.

[D]

You think brother Garland is happy with his move to la? Darius?

[F]

No.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Probably not. I don't think in either situation they were close to winning a championship.

[D]

It's still LA though.

[C]

Yeah. La. Yeah. Them highest taxes.

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[C]

Everything that comes along with being in la, right? But look, he's in a very similar situation. I mean look, Kawhi doesn't have the ball in his hands nearly as much as Donovan does, but it's still Kawhi's team.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

I mean Kawhi is playing unbelievable. He's averaging a career high, shooting almost 50% from the floor. He's shooting 40% from the 3, 90% from the free throw line. So he's having an unbelievable season. After missing a couple of games to start the season, he's playing extremely well. He's, you know, as he said, he's healthy and when he healthy, he's one of the best players in the NBA.

[D]

Absolutely.

[C]

Now he's not the two way player that he once was. Injuries have robbed him of that. But as an offensive player, his mid range game, his ability to put the ball on the floor and still get to his spot and do what he needs to do, he's still an exemplary, exceptional player. Yeah, it's just the injuries, you know, for someone, for some reason he's not been able to shake that injury bug but so far this year he new.

[D]

Well, let me, let me text, let me text Pat Riley and see how far along we are.

[C]

I don't know how far along you guys are.

[D]

I know how much. What's, what time is the deadline?

[C]

It's tomorrow. No, I thought it was the, the fifth.

[D]

Oh, the fifth. Okay.

[C]

Yeah. Car let down is four four Eastern.

[D]

Okay. All Remember, remember, remember what I said on this show many times we talked about basketball. I told you it was either Giannis or J. Hell, it might be in both of them. You never know.

[C]

Well, you saw Memphis, they're in complete rebuild. They've got, they traded Desmond Bain in the off season. They just traded Jaren Jackson III to Utah. And so could there be a situation where they go ahead and move Ja also? Yeah, absolutely. Oh yeah. But I just think the thing is, I mean they're in complete rebate.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

They've like, look, they've torn this thing down. Yeah. Well, that's basically what they've done. Yeah. You know and they got a lot of draft compensation coming in the years to come. I think they got three or first, three or four first round picks for Bane from Orlando.

[D]

Right.

[C]

They, I think they picked up a couple of first round picks and a couple of pick swaps for Jaren Jackson and obviously if you, you trade John, you're going to get more first round pick.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So they are in complete rebuild. This is going to be a very, very different team. If not by the trade deadline. There's a great chance it'll be a very different team by in the off season. We're just waiting on Aston Genti to finish up his other, his interview and he's gonna stop by Aston Genti. I was talking before. You didn't. When you're in the bathroom, which I was talking, everybody has come and said Seattle, not one.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And I think that might be a mistake. Ocho.

[F]

You think so?

[C]

New England's better than people think.

[D]

I think. Listen, we know how good they are. You know, I just saw Drake Mateo for 36 yards in the wind.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

In a snowstorm.

[B]

I saw that.

[D]

But I think people are picking Seattle Which I did as well. I love the Patriots. I love what they're doing. I love what Drake May has done. I love what Mike Brabel has done culturally and keeping that Patriot Way system and the way they conduct business alive. But I'm only leaning towards the Seahawks because of that defense. Yes, I know Christian Gonzalez is good. I know Carlton Davis has been doing his thing collectively as a whole at all three levels. The Seahawks are the better team defense defensively.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

That's the only reason I'm leaning towards him. And then, hell, we see what Sam Donald are we going to get. Can we get a Sam?

[C]

If he takes care of the football, they win. If he turns the ball over, they lose it.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

I mean, if you go back and study the playoffs over the history and especially this year, teams that have turned the football over, they went home, The Broncos went home, the Houston Texans went home. You are going home if you turn the ball all over. It's really not that complicated. And let's not make more of it what it needs to be. But I do think it's going to be an exceptional ball game, and that's what I'm expecting to happen on Sunday. But we'll see. We'll see who handles the nerve the best. None of these players, none of these teams have been to the Super Bowl. So it's not somebody that like a Brable. Brable has been to the super bowl number multiple times. Yeah, but that's. As a player now he can, you know, he can like. Okay, guys, guys, look, we know why we're here. We're here to win a football game. All that other stuff is unimportant. Let's stay focused. Let's keep the main thing. The main thing. Let's make sure we practice like we're supposed to meet, like we're supposed to be where we're supposed to, and then come Sunday, we let it all hang out.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

But I'm, I'm excited. I think it's going to be a very interesting ball game. Like I said, I don't think a whole lot of people are giving the Patriots credit because like you said, he threw for 86 yards. They only scored 10 points. But you know what? I got to do what I got to do to win.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, look at the Rams. Score 27 points and lost. I rather score 10 and win 27 and lose. Yeah. And so we'll see. We'll see who hand handles the. The nerves the best. We'll see when they get the momentum how much separation can they put between them and the other team. And so we'll. We'll. We'll. We'll see how this thing plays out. But we had some very interesting guests where. I mean, we were non stop with guests for the.

[E]

For.

[C]

For two. For two hours. Oh, yeah, it's kind of slowed a little bit. We got some great guests lined up for tomorrow.

[D]

I can't wait till tomorrow.

[C]

We're supposed to have a couple of your homeboys supposed to be coming through tomorrow. Today.

[D]

They tied up, huh?

[C]

Right now we supposed to have tea and Higgins, T and Jay's supposed to be coming through later today.

[D]

For real? Wait, hold on.

[F]

Later today?

[D]

What time?

[C]

Well, they're supposed to come, you know, before we get off there.

[E]

At one.

[D]

At one. Okay. They in the building because, you know.

[B]

I can, I can.

[D]

I can get them to get up.

[C]

I don't. I. I don't know. But that, you know, that's what that was. Was on our itinerary. I don't know where they are currently. I don't know if they have to have prior engagements or they were just coming over here, but. No, but normally only engagement. But you know how this thing works. You know, you. You know, you're here sponsored, and you come by and you try to pick their products. Fred Warner was here with Experian and guys that do it, Frito Lay or they be with Coca Cola, they deep with all these other things, and they come tell us, Tell us about what they're doing. So is that ag? Where? Right there.

[D]

No, not ain't ag.

[C]

That's a. Huh? Okay. No, that was. That was a Clarence Hill Jr. Oh, Dallas.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Yep, that's who that was. Okay. Okay.

[E]

They here.

[D]

Where?

[C]

They're coming all the way over here now, so.

[D]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Chat. We got the two best receivers in the NFL. They coming. And I'm excited. I'm excited. What do I ask Jamar and T when they get here?

[F]

Huh?

[D]

Just. I got my chat right here in front of me, so you can ask me. What do I ask Jamar and T that we. That. That I haven't already said that I haven't already asked. What would you like to ask me to ask? I'm just curious. I'm so excited. And I can get an autograph. I can get a picture. Oh, nigga Poirier.

[C]

Yep. Joining us now is Bill. Safety. Started his career with the Philadelphia Eagles in 20. What's up, bro? How you doing, man? He started his career in 2013 with the Philadelphia Eagles and then he spent 2013 to 2016 and then he goes to the Buffalo Bills from 2017 to 2023 and he spends one year in Miami. And now he's back with the Buffalo Bill. Signed late August, activated week six. You're back home, Buffalo. I, I mean, I think, you know, you've been a lot of stops, but I think you would consider Buffalo your home. Absolutely. As far as team wise, that game in Denver, was that as painful of a loss that you've been a part of?

[E]

It was up there, cuz I.

[C]

The Kansas City losses, I'm sure some of those.

[E]

For sure it was up there. You know, I, I was hurt that game, so I wasn't able to be out there with the, with the boys. So even, even more harder to watch, you know, as part of the. Obviously the 13 seconds. You know, I had some tough losses in the, in the previous years, but yeah, that was up there. You know, game comes down to what it came down to. Everybody has gonna have their opinion on this, that or the other, you know, one play here or there, you know, it is what it is and you know, we gotta, we gotta take that one and take that one on the chin, you know.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

Now that we're in off season, how's the body feeling? How are you holding up? What's next?

[E]

Yeah, man. You know, this was the first year I felt healthy in a long time.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

I took my hamstring. I'm 34. Still doing it at 34, bro.

[D]

Yeah, I love it.

[F]

You know what I mean?

[E]

Still doing that, bro. Which is, it was, it was incredible season.

[A]

Right.

[E]

I came to sign on the practice squad, ended up, you know, being on starting by week four, week five, you know, love the boys out there. Body, body felt great. It was the healthiest that I felt in a long time, you know, as I transition to, you know, whatever's next, you know, I'm a free agent right now, so, you know, Buffalo is home.

[C]

Do you want to continue to play?

[E]

I would, I would be open to continuing to play really mostly in Buffalo because I love.

[C]

Is that where your home is?

[E]

That's not where home, home is. But, you know, I spent most of my career out there. I'm on the down. I'm on the back side of my career, man. I went back.

[D]

There's no, no such thing as backside. There's no such thing as backside. That is something that they put in our heads, make it seem like 100, you know, speaking of, you know, we could always use the safety down in the five, one, three Just in case. I'm putting that out there right now, just in case, you know, for sure I can talk to Mike, you know.

[E]

No, I'm for sure open to keep playing, man.

[D]

Okay.

[E]

Still play at a high level. And again, you know, whatever, whatever happens is going to happen. The year before Miami, right? Super tough. You know, I signed there after I got cut from Buffalo because I want to get my. Get back on the Bills. Just end up getting smacked by him twice the whole season, getting smacked around. So, you know, the idea of coming back this year was to finish my career the right way, go back to Buffalo. But, you know, I'm open to keep playing. I can still play the game at a high level. I love playing this game and I play the game because I love the game.

[D]

Definitely.

[E]

I love, I love playing, I love competing, love being out there with my boys. But, you know, again, as I transition, I'm more transitioning to the, to mental health, mental awareness. And I think a lot of, I think a lot of us as we transition, we have this identity crisis. I want to say, not crisis, but just, you know, we have our whole lives we've been playing this game and that's been our identity. As we transition, we kind of, we lose that. And so finding ways to, to understand who you are outside of football. So, you know, we do a lot of events, holistic events, breathworks. We're going on tour in May, in May with artists. We're blending, you know, mindfulness, dance, breath, work, medicine, all together and music all together. Bringing 300 people together and breathing deep, man. So excited about the transition. Whatever's next. Whatever's next, man. I'm, you know, I look up to you guys all the time. Just seeing you guys doing your thing, man, and that's motivation in itself. You know, I know I have a voice. I know I, I see the game the way that I see the game. I know I can talk about the game, but see what happens, man. I'm just enjoying life for what it is.

[C]

You said something very interesting. You said, you know, this thing of this football, because for the better part of your life, everything has been structured. You're going to be here at this time, you're going to be here at that time. You're going to be this, this and this. And all of a sudden you leave the game of football and there is no more structure. Because now I, I don't have meetings at 10 o' clock in the morning. I don't have practice at this time, and I don't have a game And I don't have this and I don't have that. So as, as you start to make that transition, because like you said, I got less time in the league than I, than I previously had. So what, what's been that transition like for you? How have you started to put those pieces in place to make sure. Because football is what I did is not who I am.

[E]

Yeah, and that's a great question because I struggled that for a long time. You know, I struggled with alcohol for a long time, especially early on in my career, probably six years of my, my career. I've been, been sober for five years now. And you know, as I've, as I've transitioned into sobriety and I've learned a lot more about this world that we're in. About myself, I've learned, you know, I'm more than a football player, right? Like, football is what I do and it's what I love. I love playing the game, right? But it's not who I am. And so understanding, I think that transition is understanding your purpose or having a purpose, right? Like, what is your purpose for being here on this planet? Like, why did God bring you here? And for me, I, I just believe it's to be a light man, to be, to be a light in this world to shine to. And I, I don't pretend to sit here and know everything about everything, but I know enough about, enough to understand, like, you know, there's more to this than, than, than what we see on our daily day basis, you know, and when we go inward, when we dive within, when we look within, when we look within ourselves, we can understand ourselves, understand be aware of the daily decisions that we make and those decisions and the consequences that come from those decisions. And you know, it's just, it's an awareness, right? It's an awareness, the same thing. Like, you know, for what is pressure, right? Like when 4th and 4th gotta have it, what is pressure? Pressure? You, you're in a, in a situation and you. Pressure is. You have expectations that the situation should be this. And so you're thinking, you're thinking outside of the now moment, right? Like the moment is now. There is no such thing. Thing is pressure because it's only now. And so when you have, when you can collect, when you can. You know, we train our bodies all year, all year long, right? We train our to, to go out there and perform on Sunday to be at our best. Our brain is a muscle too. And so I, I believe that especially as younger athletes, we, we, we, we have the ability to train our brain to, to go within and to learn about pressure, learn about why you feel the way you feel in certain situations, your emotions. Learn how to control your emotions, to have awareness of your emotions. You know, why does this piss me off? Why does this, you know, why, why does this tick me off? Why does she always come in with a bad attitude? And you know, you can then change, shift your, shift your energy, right, and put more authenticity and more love into the world and you see how the, the universe starts to work. We can sit here all day and talk about the laws of the universe and, and, and you know, all the spirituality stuff. But I say all that to, to say, you know, we are all more than athletes. You know, we are all more and we are all one. We are all connected beyond what you can even fathom. And I think it's all important for us to continue to share our light. Just like you guys are doing, sharing your light, being who you are and not being afraid of that. And that's as our transition, that's, that's what I'll continue to keep doing.

[C]

You understand this league is a quarterback driven league and you played one of the better quarters quarterbacks, but the expectations are, the greater the player, the more expectations are placed, be it fair or unfairly. That is just the way it is because we know that this is why they make the most money, this is why they get the most endorsements. That's why their face are plastered all over everything. Do you, do you think Josh in this sit situation, does he understand the magnitude and the gravity of what's in store, what's, what's been placed on him?

[E]

Absolutely. I mean he's face of the franchise, he's face of the, the NFL, you know, but he's still, he's still Josh, you know, he's still in the building, you know, being himself. He unders, he understands, he understands his, his aura. Right. He understands who he is. And it's the best quarterback in the league in my opinion. And he'll be the best quarterback in the league until he's done playing, in my opinion. And you know, I always love riding with Josh and you know, unfortunately we haven't been able to get it done in those big games. But you know, he's always somebody that's going to come back and keep fighting and keep, you know, and keep throwing and keep running people over, keep hurling people. And so he does, he does understand the weight of the, the world is on his shoulders. But I think he rises to that in the moment. You Know he played hurt the last three games of the season. He plays through. I mean, you see it in his interviews. You know, they ask him, hey, do you hurt this in the game?

[C]

Like, no, I'm good. Like.

[E]

Like what? Right, brother, Everybody saw you have a broken. Everybody saw you had.

[B]

You.

[E]

You hurt your hand, twisted your knee or whatever. But, like, that's who he is. Right? He's a competitor. And I go to war with him 100 out of 100 days because I see it.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, in his eyes before the game. And, yeah, you fall short.

[C]

It just.

[E]

It happens. But how you going to respond? And I know he's going to respond the right way.

[D]

I like it.

[C]

Appreciate it. Join me.

[E]

I appreciate y'.

[F]

All.

[C]

Buffalo Bill, safety. Thank you, man. Appreciate that. All the best. Stay healthy, man.

[D]

We got to get back on FIFA, man.

[F]

Man, what's.

[C]

Appreciate you, bro. Come on in here. We got the guys coming in here. We got Jamar.

[D]

Good.

[C]

Come on, man. Good, good. What's up, baby? You good? Chilling.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. You know, I get this thing. You know, I got tired of looking young. I would look a little old to look my age. He can't grow. He can't grow one. That thing won't. That thing won't. It won't. Walk in hs.

[D]

What's up, Hobbs? I love you, Rob.

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

But I know this dude a long, long time. What's up, Rock? You good? Good to see you, bro. All right. Joining us now, two of the best.

[B]

Receivers in the n. No, no, no.

[D]

No, no, no, no. Join us right now. The best receiver, the NFL.

[E]

Okay.

[D]

1A, 1B. The greatest receivers in the NFL. Matter of fact, matter of fact, Jamar, Chase. They need no introduction, but I'm gonna introduce them anyway.

[C]

Jamar. Jamar had 125 catches, 1412 yards, eight touchdowns. T. Had 59 catches, 800, 846 and 11 touchdowns. But unfortunately, that was not enough because Joe got hurt, and they ended up going 6 and 11, third in the AFC. I'm gonna start with you, Chase, bro. You know, you've been in. You've been in this situation before. Not here, but you've been in the Super Bowl. You know what it takes. And once you get that taste in your mouth, it's kind of like a dog. Once he bites somebody, you gotta be very, very careful because he wants to continuously bite. Once you got that feeling, what is it gonna take for you for this to be a normal occurrence where you guys compete, really compete for a championship year after year?

[F]

Yeah. Everybody knows the Turn defense, win championship. And we gotta start that first. First things first, you gotta work on that. And then we can worry about the offensive side. We got the weapons for that. We've been having the weapons, but by far, everybody know we got that defense right to get back here.

[D]

T, I got a question. Put your GM hat on. You're the gm. You're Mike Brown, you're Katie, you're Duke. Any of those people that are in positions of power that can make the changes necessary to make sure we get the opportunities to always be in contention, not the AFC North. I'm talking about throughout the entirety of the league and being in the postseason. What changes do you think need to be made? Keep it PC, but just if you were in that position, what do you think needs to happen?

[A]

I feel like me, I would go and get, you know, somebody on the interior D line.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Max Crosby, Jeffrey Simmons.

[A]

Look, both said that earlier.

[F]

I said Max Crobby. I said Max Crobby. He said Jeffrey Simmons. That's two dogs we gonna need for sure.

[D]

I like it.

[F]

Sure.

[C]

You have to like you said because at some point in time, look, you won the triple crown last year and guess what, Mr. Playoffs. I had another 125 catch, 1400 catch season. Mr. Playoffs in the Pro Bowl. Mr. Playoffs at some point in time. I love these individual stats, but I play a team sport. If this was tennis, if this was golf, I'm good, I'm Gucci. But we play team sports and I want to have team success.

[A]

Yeah, that man. That's the main thing. Like, yeah, all the individuals, that's cool.

[D]

You know what I mean?

[A]

But we play the game to make it to the super bowl end of the day. So if we're not doing that, then we're not doing nothing for the organization.

[D]

One of the other problems that we always had as a team, for one, being able to compete week in and week out, it's not the elephant in the room because it's happened many times in his short, short career. How do we keep Brother 9 healthy? How do we keep him healthy for a full season so we can have that consistency?

[B]

It's one thing.

[C]

Excuse me.

[D]

What?

[F]

Offensive line.

[C]

Excuse me.

[D]

Come on. How do we keep our brother upright? How do we keep him healthy for a full season so we can have those chances to be talking about competing in the Super Bowl?

[F]

Honestly, I mean, he, like he said offensive line, but I don't think we need a new offensive line. I'm be honest. They did a good job this year in the show stats could prove it, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like the biggest thing that's more, more of an off the field thing. I'm not saying he don't take care of his body, but that do come at him to play. Maybe he got to do more with himself, you know what I'm saying? So that could be a him thing, maybe the eating, you know what I'm saying? So it's a lot of different ways you can look at that on the opinion side. But you know, at the end of the day, it's really going got to be a him thing.

[C]

He been listening to OO talking about eating McDonald's.

[D]

No, he does. He doesn't listen to.

[F]

He don't eat McDonald's. See, don't. I'm the only one that eat McDonald's and lager and ask him that at Malaga every morning.

[A]

Everybody ask me, you want some?

[F]

You want some?

[A]

I take a McGriddle.

[D]

See, now you get a better understanding. Those in the chat that are listening, you heard what he eat. You heard what he eat. That's, that's why the success is what it is. You ain't see, you saw the clip. You saw the little clip of Joe in McDonald's. You ain't see that.

[C]

I did see that.

[D]

You ain't see it.

[F]

He was sitting down in there.

[D]

Yeah, he was sitting down at McDonald's. So I'm telling you.

[B]

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[D]

He probably taking heed to like you know what, let me listen to what Ocho been saying and I'm gonna just.

[C]

Yeah. Are you guys the best duo in people football?

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

Yeah, I believe so.

[B]

Believe.

[F]

I believe so.

[D]

Man talk your man don't do that.

[F]

I ain't got to pop it too much, man. I don't need to pop it. If I start popping it too much, it's too much.

[C]

Everybody going to see what you say.

[D]

T. Y' all the best duo in football.

[A]

Feel like so. Yeah.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

No, don't say it like that.

[F]

Man say look, since he want me to pop it somebody if we let's turn on the film and look at dual tapes.

[D]

There we go.

[F]

Let's Turn on the film and look at dual tapes if you want to go.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

That's all I need to say.

[D]

Speaking of duos in the NFL, is there another duo that you guys appreciate and like watching?

[A]

I like CD Lamb and George Pickers. Ooh, I like that.

[E]

Oh, yeah, that's, that's a great duo.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? They compliment each other, right?

[F]

See that, that's, that's, that's a good one. That's a good one.

[D]

Do you see a picture I've always said I would love, I would love, and people, they get on me. Well, you didn't say that when it was time for tea. And in chase, I've been vouching for George Pickens to go somewhere else where he can get his true value and what he's really worth. Because I understand how Jerry Jones is going to play when it comes time to pay. And what Pickens, to me, has shown is he can be a true number one, have his own team. Outside of having to share catches with CD Lamb, what's your thoughts on George Pickens staying in Dallas or going somewhere else where he can have his own team and be the number one?

[A]

I can see both, you know what I'm saying? I, I, I could, you know what I'm saying? Like, he got, he got another guy on the other side that, that defense gotta focus on, you know what I'm saying? So that, that open him up. Kind of like how we, how we, how we go. You know what I'm saying? But at the same time, dude good enough to go take over a team, you know what I'm saying? So.

[C]

Sure.

[F]

I gotta agree with that, though. I feel like, I don't know. I like that. Batman Robin.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

You know what I'm saying?

[F]

I like that. I like that. You know what I'm saying? I feel like it's just a lot more production coming out of the duo thing than the single person thing, you know what I'm saying? It's easy to lock your ass down when you by yourself, bro. And I, and I always tell him this shit when I be playing by myself sometimes. Cause I be, he coming see me come to the bench and I'm pissed off. And he like, bro, I be like, you know, so I gotta go take me a stroll down the sidelines.

[A]

I be like, tell motherfuckers, hey, leave him alone.

[F]

Yeah, like, he know how I am.

[E]

Promise you.

[F]

It gets a point where it get aggravated when you by yourself. So that's why I always vouch like you Know what I'm saying? I need teeth. Not for me, but it's helping the whole offense, you know what I'm saying? Now it's opening up the run game, not a passing game. Now we going any down, we can pass the ball every down and they don't know.

[D]

Right?

[C]

Right. But I think the thing is, for me, for George, and because you see a guy at his size, huge cage radius, he can catch the ball in traffic. He's physical, he's great. Run after the catch, he can take a small boat ride and go 80, or he can take it off over the top for 60. But when I look at him, he had to leave Pittsburgh because he had to got come comfortable because he had gotten comfortable doing things his way. So he needed to go somewhere else where they weren't going to accept that. And once he locked in, he's like, well, damn, you mean to tell me I could do this?

[A]

I got this.

[C]

I got 1500 yards at me. Yes.

[A]

And I also think he was in the better offense.

[C]

Yes.

[F]

I'm about to say, I think that's what it more was. You know what I'm saying? I don't think it's him getting used to something because you could get bored with it over time, but I think also what's around you could make that character.

[C]

But you can, as a, As a. As a professional, you could never let your circumstances dictate how you play. It was dictated how he played.

[F]

Yeah, but that. I don't.

[D]

I don't think that you.

[F]

It's a lot more than that. Yeah, it's a lot more than that. Because everybody got their opinion on what he got doing what he's doing in that locker room. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

Don't nobody really know what's going on. At the end of the day, we getting you judging for somebody else and don't nobody know what he going through. You know what I'm saying? So you.

[C]

I just look at him on the tape. I just look at him like. I mean, he said it. You saw. You saw against Detroit on Thanksgiving. He has a tendency to drift. And it. He's not the first. I don't want people to think, well, I'm saying George Pickens is the first receiver. It happens a lot. Because what we would do with our number one receiver, we get him involved early so we could have him late. Because I. Why am I asking, T? Why am I gonna throw chase the ball? I'm gonna go the whole first half and I ain't gonna give I ain't not gonna give Chase any catches. Then come fourth quarter. Hey, Chase, you ready? No, I ain't ready. I was ready in the first half.

[F]

Hey, T, what I say when I come back to the sideline?

[A]

Sometimes I'm tired of the superhero.

[F]

Think I'm a superhero. You know what I'm saying? So, like, some of that, that happens sometimes, right? And like you said, you're a pro. Yes. And they gonna expect you to make this. They giving you this money, they're gonna expect you to make.

[C]

So, yeah.

[F]

What you got to do?

[C]

Give it to me. If you give it to me early. I ain't saying you got to throw me 15 balls in the first quarter, right?

[F]

But I'm saying three talk is a quarter. That's all you need.

[C]

Give, give. Give me an opportunity. I just want to touch the ball. Throw me a smoke. Throw me a slant.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Throw me a jailbreak screen. Just give me something. I want to touch the ball, but y' all want me to go. Y' all didn't. They didn't ask Michael Jordan to wait till the fourth quarter.

[F]

It's different, though. We not about to put basketball and football at the same time. That MJ could take that, could pass the ball. He gonna do this in front of.

[A]

He gonna throw that right back.

[F]

I gotta wait for Joe to hike the ball from the center. I gotta run past two defenders. Cut this, it's a lot more.

[C]

But that's what. But that's what. But see, they know how to get you the ball when you got. You go on the sideline and you say, leave him alone. He acting up, Zach.

[F]

So you saying, why they gotta wait till that long? I understand that. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

And why I gotta show out? Why y' all make me show my videos?

[F]

Sometimes the game take you away, you know.

[D]

You know what's funny? I think happens all the time is I think coaches at times, they over complicate things. It's really easy. It's simple. There's a scheme, the tactics. And if you want to get a player, you want to get a player the ball. You can get to play the ball, and you can get him the ball early.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

You don't have to get it to him often, but just to get him involved, let T touch it. Let Chase touch it. Okay, now I can run my offense.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Now when. When the time comes and the defense dictates. Okay, now we can give him the ball, then allow the Florida offense to go through them.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Hey, hey. They don't Throw me the ball the whole first half. And they come the first quarter. 84, which you like. I would like to got the ball in the first half. That's what I would really like. Now. Now y' all want me to be. Now y' all want me to be offensive coordinator. Yeah, y' all told me to stay at my place earlier. Now y' all want me to be the offensive coordinator. Yeah, n. I'm good.

[D]

Keep.

[C]

Keep doing. Spreading around. You know, we going to spread it around, get everybody involved. Go ahead and get everybody involved.

[F]

I mean, and we got a quarterback that want to spread it around too, you know what I'm saying? So, like, T get along so much, you know what I'm saying? Because we got a quarterback that. That's going to spread it around.

[C]

Right?

[F]

It's like, it's not like we going to into the game. Like. Like it might be a game where we know 100. Like we feeding T. We feature. You know what I'm saying? You might know a couple games. Other than that, we don't have those powers.

[C]

Yeah, bro, you not gonna have chase. You had 23 targets in the game, Chase.

[F]

But listen, sometimes I don't even know that. I don't know that.

[D]

Yeah, Flaco game.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

Coming to me like, bro, you know you got 15 targets. I'm like, huh? Like, you know, I just found out how to work the iPads on. I just found that out. And he'd be telling me now, I'll never know until you tell me.

[D]

Right?

[C]

So tell us. You got a podcast now, right? Yeah. So tell us about the podcast. What you talking about?

[F]

Yeah, so I got a podcast called Chasing no one. Well, overtime, and I got T helping me star in it. So I'm getting a little. Little bit of that. You know what I'm saying? Try to get y' all on. You know, we have some topics about that, so I like it. I'm gonna try to be in every bit of a topic as I can.

[C]

Right, right. So is this going to be. Is this going to be your round? It's going to be an off season thing, how you approach.

[F]

I want to do it in season for real. That's the biggest thing.

[C]

Right.

[F]

You know what I'm saying? I want to try to give one episode, but I'm not going to push these Tuesdays. You know what?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[F]

I gotta. I gotta schedule it out. That's my goal though, right? Get it during the season. Because that's more of like, I get. Now they see how I'm thinking During the season.

[D]

Yes.

[F]

You know what I'm saying? What I got to say about the games, you know what I'm saying? And a lot of questions gonna be about what's coming up for my game, which I'm gonna try not to answer, but that's the part that I want to show the fans, you know what I'm saying?

[C]

Also from T, is it going to be live or is it going to be taped?

[F]

It's some live. Some tape, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes I'm a child to try to stream from Twitch. Right now. I'm live on Twitch, so.

[C]

Right.

[F]

I'm doing that to help it out. So it's gonna be combined with overtime.

[C]

Right. So is it just gonna be about that? Are you gonna let them see your day? Are you gonna let them see your day to day life? Okay, guys, we going to work out here. I'm going to eat here. I am T and I, Chase and I, T and I, we. We playing games, playing FIFA, we playing Madden. Yeah.

[F]

So my Twitch is really for like day in a life of behind the scenes. Okay. The camera follow me everywhere.

[C]

Okay.

[F]

And then a podcast is like me talking about your football life. Football life, you know what I'm saying? Now, like, they seeing two different perspectives. And also I also do a YouTube channel, too. I got a YouTube where I drop videos. T has one too. So, you know, I just showing off, you know, behind the scenes of a lifestyle. But everyday lifestyle, there's a lot of people want to know and ask questions about stuff like that.

[D]

Right. I like it. I like it.

[C]

How did you guys become so close? Because it seems like you. You guys are like, like, you guys are almost like brothers. I mean, you guys are like really close. Y' all do a lot of things together. I see you guys in Miami. I think y' all purchased, y' all got cars, y', all, you got. Somebody got a McLaren, somebody got a Lambo. And then, you know, you guys, I mean, how did you guys become so close?

[A]

I feel like, you know, that first year.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? Preseason, he come in, you know what I'm saying? He took a year off. He dropping balls. I go to receiver coach. I'm like. I'm like, Troy, man, I don't know, man. I don't know about this kid. You know what I mean? But then, man, you know, just working together, man, every. Every seeing each other every day, you know what I'm saying? The bond just got closer and closer and it was just no brainer.

[D]

Hey, the off the offseason is here now, obviously. What. What are you guys doing this offseason away from the game of football?

[A]

Me? You know what I'm saying? I'm. I'm down in Florida enjoying the weather, man. Trying stay away from the cold.

[D]

Oh, so you down. You down the street, stay with the cold. But we just had. It was 40 degrees the other day.

[A]

I was here.

[C]

What you doing?

[D]

What you doing this off season before you get back in the groove of working. Working out, really?

[F]

I'm just, you know, I got the podcast going. I'm trying to do the twist. I'm trying to do a little more off the field stuff. Trying to get my. My off the field stuff going for me.

[C]

You got to build your brand.

[F]

Yeah, building the brand up. So that's the biggest thing I want to do first. And then, you know, I'm into the fashion stuff, so I'm gonna try to go to, like, Paris. I'm alone for the fashion world.

[C]

You. You want to do a fashion line or you just, like, you just. Obviously that's something you're interested in.

[F]

I mean, open that door since you want to say that. Fabletics. Yes. You know what I'm saying? I'm with Fabletics. You know what I'm saying? This is my. This is my thing. So.

[E]

Right.

[F]

I'm coming out with right now. I already have a drop right now for the 2026. Yeah, I already dropped the line. Okay. And then I'm gonna drop another line after that in 2027. Try to come a little more cozier. You'll feel a little more swag style with it.

[D]

Can I get. Can I get a package?

[F]

Yeah, I'm dibbling and dabbling a lot right now. I'm trying to all that.

[D]

Can I get a package?

[F]

I got you.

[C]

I got you.

[D]

You know, I'm aware I'm in the fashion, too.

[C]

It's easy.

[F]

Just send me the size and the way it's going.

[D]

I'm a large. I'm a large.

[C]

What is it about fashion? Because you see a lot of NFL players. It wasn't like that when I played guys. Guys come with COVID all blue. You know, they came flip flops and everything. And you see guys now a little bit more fashion forward. They're wearing more of the designer. They're more focused and more conscious of their looks. What do you think? What contributed to that? And why is that important to you two?

[A]

Well, me, I'm cool, laid back. I'm throwing on sweats, T shirts, black forces, and I'M cool.

[F]

You know what I mean?

[A]

But I dibble and dab a little bit in fashion. I don't really take it too seriously.

[C]

You take it serious?

[F]

Yeah, I take it. I take it serious.

[C]

You take it very serious.

[F]

Yeah, I take it serious. Like he said, I could, like, I could mix it up. Like, the thing about me, like, I don't care about being judged. If I'm coming in, like, real, like, baggy jeans, you know what I'm saying? Oversized, stuff like that. Cause I know it's really the appearance and how I am as a person, that's what's gonna give off, you know what I'm saying? And my clothes just make me feel better about my character when I'm talking at the end of the day. And that's what's gonna give me that edge on my side swag on how confident I am when I walk into an office and I'm talking about fabletics, you know what I'm saying? That's just how my. My mind gonna work about it. And over time, I just got around more fashion world and just how it works. I just started to like it over time, you know what I'm saying? I started at a young age stealing my brother clothes out his closet and making my own swag, you know what I'm saying? So I've always been a clothes head. It's just now that I've had more access to it, I can do what I want.

[C]

And plus, the thing is, you write right side. See a big old N word like me. I'm sorry.

[A]

See, that's the thing with me too, man. I might go shopping for some pants, right? I might think the pants look crazy, but then I try them on. They coming up here. I'm not trying to wear no hot waters. Right?

[E]

Right.

[F]

That's the thing about y'. All. Y' all gotta. Y' all got the custom stuff. That's the best thing.

[C]

Nah, it ain't the best thing. You know, I would. I want to go get up. Oh, I like this. That's what I want to do.

[D]

Big and tall.

[C]

Congrats. Congratulations. Great season. Hell of a season. Congratulations, Chase. Great season. Continued success, man. Hey, team success is where that you want to build that brand win.

[F]

Amen.

[C]

Appreciate you, man. Thank you for coming on. Jamar. Chase T. Higgins. Thank you guys. Appreciate you.

[D]

Hey, let me get a picture real quick.

[F]

Hey, I know you a had to say that about me spitting on that lady. Much. That's one thing.

[C]

You know, you. Give up 200, 300. To the Raptors. We got another breaking story. Chris Paul to the Raptors. Ever since he had gotten released by the Clippers, he was looking to join us. Some team. Some thought he might join the Houston Rockets because they're in need of a point guard, but it is the Toronto Raptors. Chris Paul, his final season will be with the Toronto Raptors. Glad he was able to pick up and finish because it would have been bad. The man, his last season, he's made it known that this is his last season. Ojo. And to finish his last season only playing, you know, not even half the season, I'm sure that would have left a nasty taste in his mouth.

[D]

Yes, sir.

[C]

But he's going to finish his last season with the Raptors. They have a very good team. Branded by, they got Scotty Barnes, who's an all star. And now you add Chris Paul, someone that can distribute the basketball. I think they. I think they have an opportunity to make some noise in the East. I'm not saying they can come out of the right. They can make some noise and make some noise. Yes.

[D]

Make it exciting.

[C]

Yes. Yes. Oh, that's it, huh? Okay, guys, thank you so much for joining us.

[A]

I love you.

[C]

This is. This is this.

[D]

Call me.

[C]

Nightcap Night, Nightcap, Radio Row. We're back the same time tomorrow. Debo and Joe will start from 8 to 10, and then Oo and I come in with Nightcap or radio row from 10 to 1. And then remember, tomorrow night, Nightcap live at the earps theater at 8pm if you're in the area, you want to have a good time, you want to laugh, you want to see Ocho and I, come on out, support. We greatly, greatly appreciate it. I am Unk. He's Ocho. We're done for today.

[D]

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[C]

See you tomorrow.

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