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This is Rob Gronkowski and Julian Edelman.
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From Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules. Rob, I've never asked, are you a dips guy?
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Like the workout?
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You can't tell. No, I mean for your chips.
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Oh, I knew that.
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Yeah, of course. You got to try this new Daisy's French Onion Dip.
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Goes great on Sundays.
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I like the sound of that. Everyone knows you need a good dip for game day. Personally, I like to dip everything I can. Veggies, crackers, chips. Heck, I might even dip a buffalo wing in there. That reminds me, they also have Daisy's Ranch dip. Now you're speaking my language. Yup, seems like a no brainer on game day.
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So get out there and give the.
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French onion dip a try.
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You won't regret it.
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Hello, Malcolm Glebel here.
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We're here in New York City with T Mobile for Business recording another episode of Revisionist history about how 5G network slicing strengthens trust and connections across worldw industries.
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Slicing can be used for so many different things. We're here with our friends from CNN from Siemens Energy. The ways that it can be used.
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Frankly are limitless and are really really.
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Built to think through. How can T Mobile understand the pain.
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Points that our customers have?
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Yes.
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Bay. Yay. Area. Yay.
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Yay.
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Yay.
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Good morning.
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Oh, man.
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How we. How we feeling? Y' all good? Wait a minute. I can't hear you.
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How y' all feeling?
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Y' all good? Yeah.
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Thank you so much. Thank you for everyone that showed up. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Unc and Ocho, we're nothing without you.
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I love you. I love you.
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I think it's moments like this that me personally, I'm just going to speak for me and then Ocho can speak for himself that I get an opportunity to realize just how special you guys are. I don't. I don't have to get into what transpired in 2025, but for you to have a. So for us to have a show, a sold out show tonight and the support that you've shown Ocho and I, Shannon Sharp, will be forever grateful. Thank you guys.
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Listen, for those of you that I don't know and I'm always playing around.
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You don't know nobody in this audience.
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I know.
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Hold on. For those he don't know.
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Don't think so. You don't think so.
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Hell no. Your homeboy.
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I know.
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I know a few people, but I appreciate y'. All. I thank You. You know, you guys don't understand that. You guys are the meat and potato for our success. I'm very grateful for everything that you've done for us through the ups and the downs and the fact that we're able to still sell out a show here in San Francisco. I thank y', all. Dilly.
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So, hello, San Francisco. Welcome to Nightcap live from the Earps Theater, presented by Prize Picks. We do have a laportier bar at the back, so make sure you go, grab yourself a drink. Get drunk, Ocho. So, I mean, you've been out. You've been out and about in the city. You've had an opportunity to get around. You. You. You're live streaming. So what do you think about the Bay Area thus far?
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I love the Bay Area. I've been. I've been here. I love the Bay Area. I. I love the Bay Area. One. One part. One issue. I had one issue, obviously. I took the little buggy cars, the little yellow buggy carts, you know, and they.
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They.
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They take you on a certain trail, and I. I went down. What's the. What's the steep hill you go down?
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Right to Roni Hill. Huh?
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Lombard.
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Lombard.
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I went to Lombard. And I was driving and I accelerated and I flipped, and so I flipped and I rode a little bit. But, man, listen. The Golden Gate Bridge, I tried to jump, and the guy told me, don't jump, because, you know, some people, it's been casualties. And I told him, I'm a professional diver.
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Yeah, you're. Yeah. You're a cliff diver. Listen, Poco. Cliff diver.
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Yeah. You know, I did cliff diving in Brazil, so I know how to hit the water the right way. You got to point your toes. We point the toes.
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You good.
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But, man, listen. San Francisco. Oh, my God, Unc. I ate. I ate soul food today, okay? You got to go. I went to Mini Bell's. Y' all been in Mini Bell's? Boy, the man. Listen, the greens and the macaroni and cheese and the yams, boy, it was right, Uncle Nice. I'm telling you, you got to go there tomorrow.
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Well, they better be open at 7:30. Cause my flight leaves at 10.
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Will you leave tomorrow?
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Absolutely. I'm leaving tomorrow.
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Where you going?
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I'm going home. I don't know.
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Where you going? I want to stay here because I like it here. Listen, the flight. And I'm telling you where I'm staying, right? I got a few obligations tomorrow. But San Francisco has been so welcoming. The people have been very nice everywhere. I've Been. So the flight to Miami is six hours and I just got here two days ago. Ain't no way in hell I'm finna fly another six back home already.
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It's a little. Probably about four and a half back home.
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Why you say that?
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Because you got the wind at your back. You ever heard of the prevailing westerlies? Like when you come east to west, Right. The wind is in your face. And when you go west to east, you have a tailwind.
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You bullshitting for real?
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I'll discuss it with you later.
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Okay.
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Okay, here's the class. The Pro Football hall of Fame announced its class of 2026. Going in on the first ballot, Drew Brees, quarterback, New Orleans Saints, San Diego Chargers. Going in on his first ballot, Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals. Going in, linebacker, Carolina Panthers, Luke Kuechley.
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Luke.
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Going in, one of the greatest kicker, if not the greatest kicker from the New England Patriots and the Indianapolis Colts, Adam Vinatieri. And going in the high stepping, Roger Craig. You like? What do you think? Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Keakley, Adam Vinatieri and Roger Craig.
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I love it. I love it. I mean, with those names, with what they accomplished, what they've done throughout their career.
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No Coach Belichick, no Mr. Kraft.
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Listen, their resume speaks for itself, correct? Aaron Fitzgerald, rightfully so. Luke Keakley, even though he had a short career, what he did during that time, he played awesome. Venetary speaks for itself, obviously. What, three, four time super bowl winning champ. How many times?
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Yes.
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Three or four.
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Four. Three. Three or four.
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Either way.
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Yeah, he went four, four. Because he won one with the Colts and he won three.
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Okay. So, I mean, listen, you can't argue with anybody that's been in there.
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Yeah. So this is a great list. Obviously, a lot of news was made about who didn't get in. Mr. Kraft obviously didn't get in, which is a surprise to me. I don't know what he's doing to keep him out. Coach Belichick, I understand, you know, deflate gate, the spygate, and a lot of the writers that vote for this, they probably feel at some point in time Coach Belichick wronged them. He was snide, condescending, or whatever the case may be cavalier with his answers or things like that. But at the end of the day, if you put him in, why you. I guess they're putting him in. They're going to make him wait because they say he's unworthy of being a first ballot. And the argument that they use is that they say, well, what was he without Tom Brady. And my retort to them, what was Coach Noah without Terry Bradshaw? What was Coach Lombardi without Bart Starr?
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Yes.
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So most of the time, most coaches that go into the hall of Fame, they have a Hall of Fame quarterback. This is not, you know, I'm not interrupting your normally scheduled program to break this news to you. Everybody knows, with the exception of Bill Parcell, the exception of Joe Gibbs. Joe Gibbs won the super bowl three times with three different quarterbacks. Coach Parcels won it two times with two different quarterbacks, Jeff Hotsteller and Phil Sims. But you can't hold who he, you know, who he, who his quarterback is. I think it goes hand in hand. I think they work brilliantly together. I'm not so sure Tom Brady would have won as many Super Bowls without Coach Belichick. And we know Coach Belichick would not have won as many, if any, without Tom Brady. So it was a match perfectly made in heaven. But Those are your 2026 class. Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Luke Keighley, Adam Benitiere and Roger Craig. So give it up for those guys going into the Pro Football hall of Fame. I, I mean, you played, you played. I was, I played against Adam and I played against Drew Brees when he was with the Chargers. Right. These other guys, Larry came in, I was gone. Obviously. I played against, I played against Roger because if I'm not mistaken, I think he was with the Raiders when I got there, when I got with Denver in 1990. But this is a very good class. Drew Breeds, one of the top quarterbacks ever to play the game. Larry Fitzgerald, one of the top receivers to ever play the game. Keakley, like you said, he had a very short career, but he was a defensive. He was a defensive player. The defensive rookie of the year and the next season he was defensive player.
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Yeah, yeah, he's the real deal.
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Many times all pro, he was sudden he was all over the field. A very good student of the game. He was a thumper, very well deserving. I think Adam Bennett, Terry was a no brainer because he is one of the greatest kickers. I mean, you can make a case him and the guy that was at Baltimore might be, might be the two clutches kickers ever. Especially in moments in which they come through big. All right, we got two very, very special guests under the tent pole. Here they are. They have their own show. James Harrison and Joe Hayden, Debo and Joe.
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We're here in New York City with T Mobile for Business, recording another episode of Revisionist history about how 5G network slicing strengthens trust and connections across worldwide industries.
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We was just going over this this hall of Fame class. Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Luke Keakley, Adam Venator and Roger Craig. You, with the exception of Craig, you were in the league when all of these guys were in the league. Any surprises? Drew obviously Drew with the records that he had last. Fitzgerald was consistent throughout his career. Luke Keakley, one of the best middle linebackers to ever play the game. Obviously one of the best big game kickers in NFL history, Adam Vanitary and Roger Craig, the first man to rush and receive for a thousand yards in a single season in 1985. What do you think about this list?
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Deserving? You know, like you said, the only person that's off there is is Bill. I don't, I don't understand that one. But everybody on there, you know, that's on that list deserves to be on that list. This, why did it take so long for Roger Craig?
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I, I, I, I don't know. I don't know. When you talk about a guy the first to do something, he was on those championship teams. I, I, I think the thing is that when you look at, especially you look at Raj and, and the guys that were in, he happened to be in the, the Eric Dickerson era and he looked at, he had to be in some of those guys that were rushing for 15, 1600 yards and he never had that kind of season. He was just, you know, he was kind of like a Marshall Falk, a guy, a Christian McCaffrey, a guy that can do everything. You just didn't hand him the ball and like, okay, he's going to go for a buck 5200 today. He did a little bit, everything. He might have 70 yards rushing, he might have 70 yards receiving. And so I think that that kind of kept him, that kept his numbers down. But I think he's very, very deserving to go in. What do you think about this list?
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I love the list. I actually played against, you know, a lot of those dudes too. Drew Brees, Larry for Chris Gerald, Luke Keakley, I think nice hands, Larry. I'm super glad for him to get in. Such a good dude, such a good person. He was so dominant for such a long time and he wasn't the fastest either. So he was able to get open with his body and if it was in his area, he was going to catch the ball.
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You mentioned you had an opportunity to spend one season playing for Coach Belichick. You're talking about a guy that, that's won eight Super Bowls, six as a head coach, two as a defensive coordinator. His game plan in which he stopped the K gun, the Buffalo Bills offense in the 1990 Super bowl is on display in the Pro Football hall of Fame. What do you think are some of the reasons outside of his personality, what do you think some of the reasons why he was unable to get in on the first ballot? Hall of Famer, they've only Been for George. Coach Hallis went in on the first ballot. Chuck no went in on the first ballot. Coach Lombardi went on the first ballot. And Don Shuler. Coach Shula went in on the first battle. So they've only had four first ballot hall of Fame coaches.
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He got better numbers than all of them.
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He does.
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So, so, so him not getting in there is just basically, I think it's an opportunity for them where they're like, you know what? It's time for me to get my get back. It ain't no fun when the rapper got the gun.
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Right.
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I ain't like how you talk to me or how you didn't talk to me. I don't like how you, you know, re your relationship with the media. Because that's a lot, lot of the people, writers who actually are doing it. And it shouldn't be guys like that. It should be guys that are in the hall of Fame. It should be guys, guys that are first ballot. And you're coming up for first ballot. I believe it should be first ballot hall flamers that are voting on that.
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Right.
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It shouldn't be somebody that has been just writing about the game, looking at the game, and then when the time comes, you know what, I want to settle a score.
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Right.
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I like that.
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I don't like the fact that the writers of the people, the 50 voters that are allowed to vote for some of the players that are going in, especially when it comes to something that's prestigious as the hall of Fame. I think it should be those that have played against you, those that have had the coach against you and that you give them 50 people too much power and now they're abusing that power. Said power for something that is almost common sense based on resume and accolades, especially when it comes to somebody like Bill Belichick.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Like, you could be a blind man and see what he's done and know that he's supposed to be in first ballot.
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Yes.
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So the fact that they had that kind of power and they like to play and move the goal post, depending on who the person is.
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Yes.
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They're gonna make excuse for somebody they don't want to get in. Those that they like, that conformed or aligned to how they felt they should have been. Okay, yes, he's available.
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Well, this is not the first time and I caused a fuss. I, I, I couldn't. I used to think that I knew what a Hall of Famer was, especially, you know, obviously, you know, when you don't play the game, you're like, okay, he should get in because you're just watching it on television. But after playing the game and I see Derek Thomas has to wait five times for him to get in. I see. To who still one of three receivers to have 150 receiving touchdowns in a career. A three time. He was a five time all pro, but three with three different teams. Only two other players can say that. And they're both first team all pros. And then when you change the bylaws, they didn't change the rules to keep coach Belichick out. They changed the rules to keep to from getting in on the first ballot.
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Yes.
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So now I say y' all now all of a sudden you should have an open ballot. You didn't have an open ballot when to didn't get in. So no, we're not going to do that. No, we're not going to do that. We're not going to change the rules. And just because you don't like who became the governor or who became the president, oh, now everybody got to show their ballot who you voted for. Get out of here.
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Yeah, no, I'm with you. I think the, the 50 voters, the gatekeeping I don't like. It's normally when you see Bill Belichick, if anybody's seen him coach, blind men know, like you said, that's a hall of fame first ballot. If he's not, who else is?
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Right.
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It kind of takes the validity away from it. I don't like the, the people that if g treated you a certain type of way, you didn't like the way he answered you from the media, all that. If you for the flag gate, take all that stuff away. He still has four ships. He's still better.
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It still doesn't change whether or not he was a good coach, whether how he treated you doesn't change whether or not he was good at his job. Now, he might be. There are plenty of people. Your boss might be a jerk. He's still your boss. I mean, so Coach Belichick might have been a jerk, but he's still a damn good football coach. And I think sometimes that get lost, but it does. If we like said individual, we'll give them grace. If we don't like said player, even if they do a great job in a movie, I don't like you. So the movie ain't no good. And I think that's what happened with Coach Belichick. A lot of people don't like him and it tainted their view about him as a head Coach, it's the people.
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That don't like him or just the voters. Like, I went there for, you know, for about four or six weeks.
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Yeah.
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And I'm sitting down to go talk to him, and I'm like, this is going to be a difficult conversation. Like, is he going to be talking to me?
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Like, he.
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Doing the media. And it's all a show, though. Like, he is very open, very communicative.
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He.
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He says what he means.
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He.
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And he does exactly what he says. Like, it's plain and simple. And something else, like, his ability to take a player and put them in the position that he sees them being able to play best. Like, dude, we had, like, 12 different defensive sets, and it may switch out one person, it may switch out six people, but he was going to put the person in position that he needed.
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To do the job to make that play.
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Yes.
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Wow. So talk to us a little about the show. You got a show. And I was talking. We talked to this a little bit about this today. That when Ocho and I, we went on vacation, and we're trying to find people to follow, to fill in. And, like, okay, maybe this is something that could lead long term. Maybe they'll see if they like to do it, or maybe they don't like to do it, but this is something that they'll see. Get an opportunity to see what it's like to do their own show. So when you got. When. And I remember when Ash said, well, Debo said. I say, debo who?
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I see.
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He don't. I mean, he. He. He. He want to talk. He really want to do a podcast. He said, yes. And so he signed up. And then you. You got Joe. So what went into it? Why did all of a sudden you say, you know what? I think I want to do this?
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So I got a fear. So I'm a person that the reason I was so standoffish with the media and all that is because I was nervous. I was scared, okay? And I was running away from something. So it wasn't me trying to be an. I just was nervous of what I was going to say.
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Right.
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And this was another opportunity, like, just out here, like, just talking right now in front of people like this dude, if it was 10 people in the room, I couldn't put together two words, like. And now, you know, I'm like, you know what? It's an opportunity. You know, let me see. You know, if I like it. It's not something that I'm really committing to. Committing to. So I think I ended up doing it with tj.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I ended up doing it with tj, and it went. It went well, and, you know, I enjoyed it. And I. I just really got to. I got to say what I wanted to say without having to worry about what team I was on or what this person or that person, you know, is. Is going to say, because I no longer had to, you know, go and answer to anybody.
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Right.
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And, you know, through that process, like you said, talked with Ashley, and she's like, yo, would you want it? I'm like, yeah, for sure. Like, you know, let's try it. I will give a lot of credit to my manager, Risa Belayam. She. She actually really talked me into it. She's like, come on, you could do it. Like, they want to hear what you got to say. You ain't even got to really. They just want to hear what you got to say. They want to see you, like, as a real person. So I'm like, all right, cool. Let's do it. And Joe ended up coming from just. I went to a charity softball game.
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Okay.
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And it was. Man, we had been looking for somebody for, like, probably, like, two, three months or something, and nobody was, like, really fitting. Didn't like the people they brought. You know, they didn't. Like, a couple. Well, I had two people that I. And we just sat down, and we were sitting there playing in the softball game for camp, and we just chopped it up. Like, we had been knowing each other for 30 years, like, never missed time. I just saw you yesterday, and I'm.
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Like, yo, what about Joe?
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Hey. And they like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then that process. He was actually. You could take off from here, but he was looking at trying to do a podcast himself, right?
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So same thing. So I was Deebo, funny dude. We played on the same team, and he was very standoffish when I came to the Steelers, because this was 2017. TJ came there and was more like, you know, him and coach. This is the whole situation. So Debo was like, Deebo. He wasn't really talking to too many people.
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He.
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He wasn't being too friendly. So he just. I would see him through the locker room, and I was just new to the team, and we were always cool, always respectful, always. What's up, Debo?
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A
How you doing?
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C
He was, you know, what up, Joe?
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A
Boom.
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C
All right. Eating his food, doing his workouts, handling business. So Debo was real cool. And when we met him again, we end up linking up at Cam Hayward's thing. I just think he Just good dude. You know, we just respected each other. And as we have two totally different perspectives on stuff, we got two different angles, but we have a common ground of respect, and I rock with them.
- [25:57]
E
I think that's why it works so well, because I watch y' all sometimes. I wake up in the morning and I don't appreciate y' all ignoring me. When I be in the chat talking. Hey, I be. I be spamming the chat, trying to get their attention, and they just keep on talking like. And I be spamming it. It really be directed at one person. And he. Right now, he ignored me. Huh.
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A
You.
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F
It's hard to.
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C
No.
- [26:25]
E
You notice something? Notice what he said is when he was playing, he didn't really talk to the media because there was a fear and he was scared and he would run for. Run from it. What you think my middle name was in high school? Nah, my middle name was Media, Media, Media.
- [26:43]
A
So he running from you.
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E
Being running from you. Matter of fact, when we play. When we play. Say I used to punk him on the field, Joe. Like that.
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A
I'm telling you. Listen, man, he talking about me actually.
- [26:54]
F
Talking nice to him one time after they were finding my ass like crazy. I was just trying to get some good conversation. If I did pop somebody and the ref heard the conversation I was having, I really wasn't the person that was aggressive. I was. You know, I was go be the person that was gonna put him to sleep.
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C
But no, for sure, other than that.
- [27:11]
E
Yeah, listen to what he just said. He was talking nice to me. Yeah, talking nice to me like I punked you. What you talking about? It's okay. It's okay. You don't have to be tough all the time. There are people tougher than you.
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A
Yes.
- [27:25]
E
Like me.
- [27:26]
F
No, I walked into that. But.
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A
This game, this. We're a couple of days away from the big game. The Patriots, Seattle. Seattle's been one of the top teams all year. I don't think anybody. I don't excuse. The Seahawks have been one of the top teams all year. The Patriots, I mean, you think about. They won four. What, four games last year. They get a new coach the second year for the. The quarterback, Drake May, and all of a sudden, they just get better and better and better. The one thing about the Patriots, they're not going to beat themselves. It doesn't matter who the coach is. Obviously, Brable, he's. He's kind of like Belichick, but he's a more personable coach. Belichick. And it seems the guys really, really love Playing for him, and he's really ingratiated himself because he was a player. So he knows how to get the players to play at a certain level. Who do you like in this game and why?
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F
I like the Patriots because of the coach. I've seen, you know, what he did from. From the beginning that he got there to where he's at now. I've seen in the progress of just the quarterback back in the last two games where, you know, you see Drake, he's like, oh, I could take off from this. He's like, nope, I'm lay down.
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A
Right.
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F
I remember last week I tried to do that and I fumbled.
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A
Right, right.
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F
You know, it. It was situations like, oh, I could have made that throw. Nope, let me go ahead and sit down and take that sack because it was an opportunity there where if he had made that throw, dude would have stepped in front of it.
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A
Right.
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F
So I think, you know, the quarterback is really growing through the process. They're trusting each other. Like the team is trusting the offense is trusting defense and defense. Defense is trusting in the offense, and special teams is doing their thing to. To put in. And I just feel like, you know, with. With him there, man, I just. I can't go against it.
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D
I just can't.
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F
I just can't, man. He does. He did a great job. And that's just one year, right?
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A
Great turnaround. Who you like, Joe?
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C
I like Seattle.
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A
Okay.
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C
I like.
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F
This is why I don't like you, but this is. I got.
- [29:23]
E
I got.
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B
I got.
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C
I got. I got reasons. I got reasons. I just out here saying things for no reason. I like New England, too, but going into the playoffs, I mean, Drake may. And he hasn't been doing too good. Sam Darnold, when they beat. When they beat Rams, I didn't. I didn't know I was up in the air with Sam Donald. I will always blame.
- [29:42]
A
Like, they ain't had no DBs.
- [29:43]
C
Joe Debo. There you go. I'm talking. I wasn't talking when you was talking. So Sam Donald in that offense and. And now with Walker running the ball the way he's doing Jackson, Smith and jigba, those DBs. Yes, my man.
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A
Number three.
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C
The.
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A
The.
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C
I call maybe Dermond James. Lil Derman James. He's unbelievable. So the defense, they're balling. If Sam Darnold is doing what he does like he did versus the Rams, they're going to win because, I mean, the Patriots. Good, good, good, good team. But like Drake, man, I love him to death, but this playoff last week they would. They. You see them taking the knees.
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A
86.
- [30:16]
C
Like the weather was bad, but 10 to 7.
- [30:18]
A
Yeah. I think the thing is, if Sam Darnold can avoid what he. What he's not done this entire playoff run, which is turn the football over. He takes care of the football, they're going to be tough to beat. You turn the football over, you lose. You. You. You lose this ball game. There's a lot of new. There was a lot of being said about. They asked Tom Brady, who is he rooting for? Tom Brady spent 20 years with the New England Patriots, and everybody just automatically assumed, man, I'm for the Patriots. He said, I just hope for a good game. I don't really have a dog in the fight. His former teammates like, what. What you mean you ain't got no dog in the fight? You got a whole kennel. Hey, he a owner now. He owner of the Red is now.
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F
He ain't got the dog in the fight. He's just trying to tell you.
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A
But I could see. You know what I could see?
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F
All y' all do is make noise.
- [31:06]
A
Y' all never make no planes. Yeah, I can see. If he was calling the game for Fox and you wanted. You want to seem neutral, but he's not calling the game. I can assure you. If I was on. If I was on live television and we. Linear television, we talk about it. I root for the Broncos.
- [31:27]
C
Yes.
- [31:27]
A
You're not supposed. You're not supposed to root. I know I'm not supposed to, but I'm going to.
- [31:31]
E
You know what that creates. That creates unnecessary news for him. Because now the headline becomes, tom Brady's rooting for the Patriots. That's too much. Now he has to play defense.
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A
Let me ask you a question.
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E
One, because with the Raiders.
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A
Yes.
- [31:44]
E
Two, because his position as an analyst.
- [31:47]
A
Yes. It alleviates any issues with the Raiders.
- [31:50]
F
And the analysts should never have come together.
- [31:52]
A
That.
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F
That shouldn't even go together.
- [31:54]
A
That's.
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F
That's.
- [31:55]
A
That's a problem right there. Right. It's Tom Brady, so, you know, we're.
- [31:58]
E
Going to let it go.
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A
If I tried to do that, man.
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F
They'D be on my ass.
- [32:02]
A
Do you actually think. Let's be real. Yeah. Do you actually think Tom Brady's not rooting for the Patriots, he's rooting for the Patriots? Exactly. He said to make it seem like he's neutral. Right. Like, you know, I really don't have a dog in the fight. Bro. You spent 20 years there. You'll. Your fondest memories got a trophy outside.
- [32:22]
E
In front of the stadium.
- [32:23]
A
A statue? Yes. He. I mean, he gonna send Brave Oak.
- [32:26]
F
Something if they win that thing, though, for sure. You want me to hold that for you? Put it on.
- [32:29]
A
No, I don't. I don't. I don't see that back.
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C
That's for sure.
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A
Man. Congratulations on all the success, man. Debo and Joe. Hey, your first year, you did unbelievable. It's only get bigger and better moving forward, man. Congratulations, Joe.
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D
Thank you, baby.
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A
Huh? Oh. Oh.
- [32:53]
C
Get right, people.
- [32:59]
F
I said ain't really what you want.
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A
What you mean? Is that really what you want? Let me know.
- [33:05]
F
That's what. Huh?
- [33:20]
A
Okay. At home, this. This Face off is brought to you by Morgan and Morgan. When this is all over, someone certainly will need an injury attorney. So maybe one of both. And what better way? The number one injury law firm in the country, it's Morgan and Morgan. And you know what? They happen to be a sponsor of the show. So we might can get one of you guys a discount.
- [33:51]
F
That's the devil right there. He talking to me.
- [33:53]
C
That's why I have to take that chain off.
- [33:55]
A
I don't know, guys. Who we got? We got Debo or do we have Ocho?
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D
That's crazy.
- [34:06]
A
Hey, hey. It's a lot of Raider fans out there. We know what y' all do. Y' all can't play just like this. Can't. Appreciate you, Appreciate you. I don't know, Ocho. I don't know.
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E
He too little.
- [34:29]
A
He too little. Yeah, but you up.
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C
Hey, he too.
- [34:32]
E
No, I ain't.
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C
I'm too.
- [34:33]
E
I'm too.
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A
Yeah. I sure hope. I sure hope we still get that discount in Morgan and Morgan.
- [35:05]
E
Hey, see. Hey, hey, listen, listen. Now, you know, you know, in the Bible, they had a story, David and Goliath. Goliath was huge, but David won. That would be the Same story in 20, 26. Against him, all that muscle don't mean nothing. He throw two punches. He tied.
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F
Two.
- [35:28]
E
Two.
- [35:28]
A
We go.
- [35:29]
E
I can't, man. Choking that, man. All that don't mean nothing, man.
- [35:33]
A
Are you doing boxing or mma?
- [35:35]
E
Listen, MMA or boxing? He can't fight. He too big.
- [35:41]
A
Well, I don't think you'd probably need to find out whether he can. Okay, we gonna. We gonna.
- [35:46]
C
We gonna set it up. We're gonna set it up.
- [35:48]
E
Chad, wouldn't y'. All. Wouldn't y' all like to see that? Yeah, man.
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A
All right, we got a very special live performance. Harry is from the Bay. Bay rapper La Russell.
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A
I don't know he might need my microphone. He might need me an OO to join.
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C
I should put spree wheels on the station wagon in front of home of the East Bay Dragons A little up north where I landed Baby I ain't had nothing handed Baby I'm that blue I'm from to be Candid, I don't ask for respect, I demand it soon as the plane land, I be getting to the chicken A fella like me is slim picking the man that you with Eat a bargain brand I'm mountain Valley spring not the target brand.
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B
Hello.
- [38:48]
A
Are you hard in hearing?
- [38:50]
C
You ever hopped out the car while steering? You have a geek till you sweated out your white teeth? You have a cheese and took somebody white me?
- [38:57]
A
You ever took it to the view?
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C
Not the sightsee? I got flavor, that's why them people bite me I got flavor, yada right me, I got flavor Sprinkle me, man, I got yeah. First I do like this put a look on my face like I smell some bounce to the beat till it start to hurt.
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A
Then I dust all this smurf off.
- [39:19]
C
Me dip to the ground as I catch the base Then I wipe all the sweat off me hop back up and I start to slide popping my collar, I break that thing down and do the dust myself off like I just don't care. Come on, everybody, now's your chance. The Harlem shake, It's a thistle dance, dance.
- [39:39]
A
Say what, say what, say what.
- [39:48]
C
Say.
- [39:48]
A
What, say what, say what? Yeah, can you do the dizzle dance?
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C
San Francisco.
- [40:11]
F
Ah.
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A
Love, bro. Love, bro. Unbelievable. Thank you.
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C
Yes, sir, bro.
- [40:23]
A
I mean, obviously, the west coast rap. We know the West Coast. The BAE don't get the love that it deserves. You know, you got 40. Rest is so Mac Dre, you guys. So at what age did you, like. You know what? I'm gonna give this rap thing a try.
- [40:40]
C
I started rapping when I was, like, seven.
- [40:43]
A
Wow.
- [40:43]
C
But I didn't believe I could really do it until I was, like, 23.
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A
Okay.
- [40:50]
E
At what. What moment hit you? What moment hit you? There was a moment for Unk that it hit him. You know what? I can play at the next level. There was a moment for me where I understood, you know what? Maybe I can give this a shot, because I can play at the next level. At what moment in life did it hit you? This rapid thing, and I could really do this shit.
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C
I put out an album in 2018.
- [41:14]
E
Yes, sir.
- [41:16]
C
And my pops, like, was giving it out. And one day, I'm in the garage, I'm just working, and the UPS driver pulled up, and he hopped out the truck, and he like, nigga, what did your daddy give me? And it was my album, you know? And it was one of those moments. I was like, man, I might have something more special than I believed myself.
- [41:39]
A
Right? That was the moment that you knew. But when you talk about debate. Obviously, everybody know 40 water. Have you had an opportunity to mingle with 40 water? Did you get. Did he give you hip? Put you to any. On top of any game?
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D
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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C
Water laced me, you know, Anytime I call, he answer. He pick up and he lets. He lays me. He connect me wherever I need to be connected. Definitely.
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A
So you bay. You with the 49ers, you bang bang. You the bang bang gang or what Are you a favorite team?
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C
I'm with the yay area. You hear me?
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A
Yeah. So you. You all things. Yeah, you the warriors.
- [42:13]
C
You the a all things J area.
- [42:15]
A
Wow. So when you. When you. When you. When you perform, when you go to the east coast or is the east coast hip? They. They know who Russell is.
- [42:30]
C
Definitely. I sell out every coast, coast to coast, north and south.
- [42:34]
A
I love that. I love that. I love that flavor. Who you room? Who you rooting for on Sunday? Who you got?
- [42:42]
C
Well, me and my homies performing on Sunday. So I'm rooting for us. I got the home team with me.
- [42:50]
A
Hey, you. You like if they're not. If it's not the Niners, I don't really care who win. We'll lose the draw. I'm good.
- [42:56]
C
Long as I'm there. I'm in there, right?
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A
Right.
- [42:59]
E
Hey, you said you started rapping at 7, right? Obviously at one point, you made a. You made an album. Inspiration. We all pull inspiration from somewhere that makes us want to do something that gives us motivation. Who was your inspiration? Especially here from the Bay Area?
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C
I'm a mag.
- [43:21]
A
Yeah, definitely.
- [43:22]
C
Magic. Every. Everybody that put some sauce in a pot, though, you know, I really took some from everybody. I was out the trunk hand to hand because. Cause of 40 and short, you know, And I was deep in life rap because of POC and everybody that put sauce in a pot, you know, I took what I needed from them.
- [43:38]
E
Right. Okay.
- [43:39]
A
You recently signed to Jay Z's label. How has that been?
- [43:44]
C
It's been incredible. You know, I went to sleep. I went. I went to sleep one night, and I didn't have no songs on the radio, and I woke up the next day on 50 radio stations.
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A
Damn. Is that one of the reasons why it's so hard? And you need that machine, which is the. The record company, the label behind you to push, because when you. When you're independent, it's kind of hard to get that kind of airplay because you need people from coast to coast to hear you like, man, man, I like. I like. Oh, I like old dude, man. He's nice like that. But when you're not, when you're independent, it's just hard to get that airplane.
- [44:24]
D
Yeah.
- [44:24]
C
The relationship is different. You know, when you independent and you go to radio, that might be your first time. So it's their first time meeting you. They first time doing business versus with a label they've done business for a hundred years. You know, they already connected and respected. So it's just. It's just a different grind, you know? And I'm still independent. We spend our own paper and we come up with all our own stuff. We put out our own music. We just got a partner now to help.
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A
Right. I like that. Give me your Mount Rushmore. Bay Area rappers.
- [44:55]
C
Sheesh. Tupac.
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A
Okay.
- [44:58]
C
Park, Mac Dre.
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A
Mac Dre.
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C
E. 40.
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A
40.
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C
Too short.
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A
Too short. Okay. That's a solid ass list.
- [45:06]
E
Yeah, it's a good list.
- [45:07]
A
We're gonna get you out of this. What advice would you give young and up and coming rappers that want to get into the game? Maybe, maybe take the approach that you took? What was some of the advice that you would like to give that you would pass along?
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C
Be authentic as possible. You know, I really got this far because I connected and resonated with my community. People see me and they see themselves. I'm not somebody that's up here like I'm or people still get to come up to me and dab me up and talk to me. And I'm not trying to flex on nobody. I'm really showing people the way. I'm out in my community. And I think we got into an era society now where rappers is like, it's almost like we, We. It's just flexing, you know, it's just a whole bunch of shit that's like, I didn't grow up that way. You feel me? Like, I can't connect to you and I can't respect it because that's not what I seen and witnessed. It don't make sense to me. You feel me? So just being as authentic as possible, the best thing you could be in this world is you. It's only one.
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A
Yes. Authentic.
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E
I like that. That's dope.
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A
Laroso, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, bro. Appreciate that, man. Yes.
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E
Thank y'.
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A
All.
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C
Yeah.
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F
Area.
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E
Y' all good.
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E
You ain't make sure the people was good.
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A
Go ahead.
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E
Y' all good. You sure? I'm gonna say this one time and one time only. Is there anybody that need a drink? All right, if you need a drink, your laporte back down?
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A
Yeah, you gotta put.
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E
Laporte is back there. When you get back there, tell him it's on.
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A
All right. We got a very special guest joining us. I hadn't seen this man since he cut his dress, his locks. Here he is, all the way from the crib. ATL Legend PI Come on out, bro.
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E
What they do, Pop?
- [48:08]
D
What's happening?
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A
You back at it. You back at it like you never left.
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D
Hey, a town bendy. You hear what I'm saying?
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A
Yeah, you stepped away from for a minute, but you came back like you never left.
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D
I mean, you know, bro, I ain't gonna cap you down. Like, I feel a lot of the stuff that LaRussell was saying, I think he was speaking like, pure facts. Because at a certain point, you know, we got in this, you know, to change the standard of living for our families and, you know, to make a better life for ourselves, our children, but we ain't really had for all the folks, fame and you know what I'm.
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A
Saying, you wanted to force it down the fame, you know what I'm saying?
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D
Like, but I mean, and when I say that, you know, it take a while for us to get used to it.
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A
Yes.
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D
It take even longer for other to get used.
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A
Yes.
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D
And sometime, man, it be hard for us to enjoy ourselves and just be, you know, like us and normally, because other people is so, like, oh, what the. That, like, my just chill.
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E
Yeah.
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D
So.
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A
So.
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D
I respect and I appreciate that you appreciate, man. Cool. But my n just chill and, like, what caused me to want to step away is because I just started to see. Motherfucker just started acting, like, funny and just started making me feel uncomfortable. So I'm like, man, let me just fade back for a little bit, you know? But I can't just stay away from forever. So I think, you know, nast time to just kind of reintroduce myself.
- [49:45]
E
How have you been able to manage and be consistent and have that level of consistency with success for so long? What do you attest that to?
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D
I think, man, I'm a fan first. And I really, really love. I love the culture. I love. I love music and. And I myself know what I want to listen to yes, sir. So I'm gonna remain consistent, because I'm not gonna put no shit out there I don't want to hear right. And that's just always been my. That's been my key. And just, you know, I stay grounded because I have a strong support system. I got real people around me, you know what I mean? They gonna, God damn, you know, call the like it, like it roll, you know what I mean? And that allows me to stay true to myself and also stay true to what's going on out there so I can represent the people.
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E
See, that's a good thing. You heard what he said, huh?
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A
Yeah.
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E
Y' all heard what he said, right? He stayed true to himself, but also, when I think about the rap game when we was growing up, we about the same age now. The sound of music has changed, okay? How have you stayed true to yourself when music has evolved and it doesn't sound the same way it did when we was younger?
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D
I mean, bro, like, man, I still know what the. It pulled to sound like, right?
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E
Right?
- [51:07]
D
Man, this shit a feeling, bro. It ain't just. It ain't just like, oh, let me make something that sounds like something, right? Like, I'm. I'm. I'm going. I'm going to look for. For one, when I walk in the studio, I'm gonna look for a track that. That. That represents what I'm feeling right now, my mood, right this morning moment. I read somewhere that Sebastia said, art is how, you know, we decorate space, and music is how we decorate time. You feel me?
- [51:39]
E
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me write that down.
- [51:42]
D
Hold on.
- [51:43]
E
Right there, bro.
- [51:45]
D
Nah, for real. And so I'm just using these songs to decorate the time that I'm in, you know what I mean? Like, I can listen to songs that I did back, you know, in. In 2001, 2003, 2006, and I could almost taste the time, you know what I'm saying? Because I remember what I was going through, right? And that's. That's. I think that's. That's when the is done correct correctly, you can taste the time, you know what I'm saying? Like, for instance, you close your eye right now and just think about nothing but a G thing.
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A
You feel what I'm saying?
- [52:31]
D
If you was like, you could smell the reefer, you know what I'm saying? Because that's what the shit is. That's what we do. That's what it's for. And that's all I aim, you know? That's my aim.
- [52:44]
A
You, this final project, let them know. But you said it's gonna be your final album. It's gonna be your final album of 26. Are we gonna see you back again in 27 or 28? Are you fine? Are you done with music?
- [52:56]
D
I mean, to be honest with you, it's not that I'm done with music. It's just that, like, what. When I came into this, I had a vision and a dream.
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A
Okay.
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D
And I didn't damn near did all of that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, thanks. Thank you know, due to the grace of God, you know what I'm saying? Thankful to all of the people who. Who've been supporting and. And, you know, just been by my side, I've had the opportunity to do that. I ain't stopped dreaming. The dream wasn't to do the. Then do it over again. Like, okay, so now I. God has sent me here with gifts, many gifts. This is one of them. And I also have others that now that I've done what I intended to do with this, I gotta allow it to open the door for me to do what I intend to do with the others. I don't want to go back with no gifts. You know what I'm saying? I want to make sure I used everything that he gave me while I was here.
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A
Right.
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D
And it's just other that I got. I got plans on doing, you know, producing, directing, writing, films, real estate development.
- [54:04]
A
You gonna do acting again? You try. You gonna get back into acting? Because there was a strength at TIU was doing more acting than mo. Than music.
- [54:11]
D
Absolutely. I got a film coming out right now, Okay. I got one on Tubi that I directed, wrote, directed is my film that I partnered with DC Young Fly.
- [54:21]
E
Yeah.
- [54:22]
D
And Carlos Miller and Little Duvall is called Departments. It's out on Tub Movie right now. I got the sequel in post production coming soon. I got another film that is. It's a romantic comedy, and it's a film that I also wrote, directed. I. I actually starred in this one. It's called Thought she was the One. It's about, you know, you know, trying to find love in Atlanta. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, that's also a post production. I got.
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A
You got the fish spot. You and Killer Mike.
- [55:02]
D
Yeah, me and Killer Mike. We got Bankhead Seafood. Absolutely. So, y', all, come on, get you a fish sandwich. You know what I mean?
- [55:07]
E
Hold on.
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C
I know what I want to talk about.
- [55:09]
D
Trap Music Museum. I can't go. I Can't blow past that.
- [55:13]
E
Comedy. Yeah, tell me about the comedy, man.
- [55:16]
D
Comedy is peace. That's where I find my. My peace.
- [55:19]
E
Yes, sir.
- [55:20]
D
That's where that. That's why I do. That's why, you know, I ain't really got to be T.I. you know what I'm saying? That why I go. And I'm. I'm. I'm just another comic. This. This aiming to make people laugh. It ain't about celebrity. It ain't about none of that other.
- [55:38]
E
Yeah.
- [55:38]
D
And I go up there and I find my piece, and I enjoy. I don't give a damn how much y' all enjoy seeing me do it. This is for me.
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E
Right, Right, right.
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A
You know what?
- [55:48]
D
I don't like it.
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F
Don't look.
- [55:50]
D
You know what I mean?
- [55:51]
A
Let me ask you this. How hard is it? Because I could see, like, okay, you're a rapper. If you wanted to do R B, or you want to do country or you wanted to do, you know, tech, whatever the case may be, okay, Beyonce, she's a singer. She did country. You went to a whole different. A whole different arena and said, you know what? I want to try that. Because normally it really.
- [56:11]
D
The one that I wanted to try that I found, fell in love with it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't intend on doing comedy. That wasn't, like, you know, on my to do list. One of my partners, I support comedy. My wife and I, when we go on date nights, and that's what we go do, we go to comedy club, okay? We, you know, we spend a lot of time going to the Mike Yelp show, the Cat Williams show, the Dave Chappelle show, you know what I mean? 85 South Show. And I just happened to be at an open mic night, and one of my best partners, his name K Dub, and he. He was hosting the open mic, and me and him arguing, talking about why the on stage wasn't funny. So he was like, well, you, man. Well, get your ass up there since you know so much. You know what I mean? So he introduced me and brought me on stage one day just like, he.
- [56:50]
A
Didn'T think you gonna get up there.
- [56:51]
D
I didn't think I'm gonna get up there.
- [56:52]
A
You know what I'm saying?
- [56:54]
D
And I just kind of just told the story of my day, really talking about me and my wife had gone through, and I got, like, my first laugh, and I just was hooked, right? And. And I started going to comedy club, asking to get on stage, thinking of new ever since then. And I Did that every day for about three, four months. Just because I love to do it. I wasn't getting paid, you know what I mean? The money came a little later, but you know what I mean? I just love to do the shit.
- [57:21]
E
Yeah.
- [57:23]
A
Where do you see Atlanta?
- [57:25]
D
Guess what? And when comics find themselves in the studio record recording records because they just love music, ain't nobody saying to them, talking about, oh, he ain't funny your don't sound good. We just roll with you. Cause we with you.
- [57:43]
A
You know what I'm saying? Where's Atlanta? Where is Atlanta's rap, R B, hip hop scene? Where do you see Atlanta? Because it's different. Like you said, the early 90s, 2000s. And here we are headed to 20, 30. Sure. Where is it? Where is it now?
- [58:00]
D
I feel like the scene, the music scene in Atlanta is mid metamorphosis.
- [58:07]
E
Hey, that's a big word there, bro.
- [58:10]
A
Okay, so if who the was on.
- [58:12]
D
Stage was gonna happen, you knew this was gonna happen eventually.
- [58:16]
A
Is the metamorphosis gonna happen expeditiously?
- [58:18]
D
It me.
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B
Yeah.
- [58:19]
D
Well, we don't know. That's what we don't know. But. But we're mid metamorphosis, you know what I'm saying? Like, we're at a point where, you know, when a caterpillar becomes a butterfly.
- [58:29]
A
Yes.
- [58:29]
D
It's an ugly phase.
- [58:31]
A
Yeah.
- [58:31]
D
You know, when it's in the cocoon. But, you know, we got to bear with it. If you believe in it, you'll stick around long enough to see the beauty of the transition. You know what I'm saying?
- [58:44]
A
Yeah.
- [58:44]
D
And that is where we are.
- [58:49]
E
I like that. I like that.
- [58:53]
A
When they mentioned. When they mentioned Atlanta rappers. And we've got a bunch, you know, obviously yourself, Jeezy, TI Gucci, Luda, Future, outkast, all the Dungeon Family.
- [59:09]
D
If.
- [59:10]
A
Yeah, you got Gun and Thug Savage. If somebody say, look here, T.I. we ain't gonna let you off the hook. Give me your five greatest. Your five greatest Atlanta rappers. Who we putting up there?
- [59:27]
D
Well, I'm gonna ask first, I'm gonna ask why. Why am I doing this?
- [59:31]
A
Because that's. That's because that's just like, why would I do this?
- [59:34]
D
You know what I mean?
- [59:34]
A
Because it's like, give me your five greatest actors. Actresses. Give me your five greatest comedians. That's what we do. We.
- [59:40]
D
But see, this is what. Why I feel like that is dangerous for us to do for. For one. For one, as. As black people who've been fighting to get out of a certain cycle of comparison no, not even just comparison of fighting for a position like only one of us, or two of us or three of us can hold in position. And many of us is deserve a position can hold it it. Why we gotta stop it at a number like, no, it's just us. You can't get in. Like, everybody contributed. Everybody built this. Everybody made this what it was. So why I'm gonna stop it at now? I ain't gonna let you in. Cause these are the ones.
- [60:25]
A
Is that how you look at it?
- [60:26]
D
That's how I look at it, man. And for one, I ain't just no Atlanta rapper. I'm in. You know what I'm saying? Saying I'm man, I'm. I'm man. The earth is my turf. You feel me? I put down anywhere. I be out back there with the Russell in his backyard.
- [60:42]
A
I put down out there. Okay.
- [60:44]
D
You know what I mean?
- [60:44]
A
I did hear you say versus.
- [60:46]
D
Yeah.
- [60:47]
A
So who you trying to. Who you trying to see in a versus?
- [60:49]
D
Can't nobody with me. Shannon.
- [60:51]
C
Hold, hold on, hold on.
- [60:54]
D
Can't nobody with me, T. If you.
- [60:58]
E
Were to do a versus right now, none of the top rappers that you believe would be able to with you. No Lil Wayne.
- [61:07]
D
Well, listen, Jay Z, listen, that's exactly how I feel. And I'm going tell you why I say that.
- [61:11]
E
Talk to me.
- [61:12]
D
I say can't nobody with me because I am the absolute best at being me. Ain't nowhere else you can get this right here, but right here. You feel what I'm saying?
- [61:21]
E
Come on, man.
- [61:23]
D
I ain't getting. Getting on there trying to do them. I'm gonna be doing this right here. And I'm the best to ever do this.
- [61:28]
A
So have. Have. Have versus reached out. Obviously that, that Swiz and.
- [61:32]
D
And. And Tim, they the homies. I mean, they did. But you know what I'm saying, it ain't nothing that made no sense. Like, for instance, me and. Me and Young was supposed to go, right? No, no, no, no. Jeezy.
- [61:45]
A
Okay.
- [61:45]
D
Me and Young.
- [61:46]
A
Okay.
- [61:47]
E
Hey, that would have. That would have been nice. That would have been nice.
- [61:49]
D
Yeah, me and Yo Nick, me and Young were pulled to go. And then, God damn. When I was talking to Swizz, you know, I was like, man, yeah, I do it. But you know, really, the. That really would be the one. It ain't gonna happen. But if you. Gucci. Young and Gucci, that the one. And then he. And he hit me back. He was like, don't even trip. I got, I got. I think we gonna get Gucci to do it. I said, well, you don't need me then.
- [62:16]
A
But that's the one. Hold up. But didn't. Jeez and Gucci already.
- [62:20]
D
No, they were. Before it happened.
- [62:21]
A
Okay, before it happened.
- [62:22]
D
Before it happened.
- [62:22]
E
They were talking.
- [62:23]
A
Okay, okay, okay. But I'm saying so right now.
- [62:25]
D
Then I called my man. I said who I wanted.
- [62:27]
A
You want wheezy?
- [62:28]
D
Nah, I said I wanted 50. That what I said. He don't want no smoke, though.
- [62:31]
A
Oh, Lord.
- [62:34]
D
I called my man. He don't want no smoke. He ducking smoke. It's cool. So now. So now here we try to think about other people who would do it. You know what I'm saying?
- [62:47]
A
Damn.
- [62:48]
D
You know, we mentioned. We. We mentioned Wayne, and Wayne wouldn't be bad. I respect Wayne. I'm a hot boy fan.
- [62:54]
A
Yes, sir.
- [62:55]
D
I feel like that would make some sense. I don't think Wayne really into it, but you know what I mean? I think that would make. I don't think he into the idea of doing it at all.
- [63:03]
A
You know what I mean?
- [63:05]
D
And you know, hey, that.
- [63:06]
E
That TI50, that'll be.
- [63:08]
A
They.
- [63:08]
E
Hey, that'll feed families. Boy, that's a good one.
- [63:12]
F
Damn.
- [63:14]
D
Yeah, but I ain't in the hurry to do nothing, bro. You know what I mean? I'm chilling.
- [63:18]
A
I mean, but because we. I mean, we've had. We've had some. We've had some good one. I mean, we had Earth, Wind and Fire. I love that one. We had. Hold on, who else? What?
- [63:29]
D
Yeah, Folding Shout was a dope one. That was fly. I just was out there. Yeah, Snoopy DM met with her. I just was out there. They did Mike Will and. Mike Will and what the boy name.
- [63:42]
A
With cash money and what you call him did it.
- [63:44]
D
What the man name is Mike, huh?
- [63:47]
A
Hit Boy.
- [63:48]
D
Mike Will and Hit Boy.
- [63:49]
C
Yeah. That was.
- [63:50]
A
Oh, you was in Vegas for that?
- [63:51]
D
Vegas. It was in la, but yeah, yeah, yeah, we were there. That was smooth.
- [63:55]
A
Damn. Yeah. Tip said he want 50. I like that. Yeah.
- [63:59]
D
I mean, you know.
- [63:59]
A
So let me ask you a question. So it's tw. So it's. It's 20 songs? Yeah, it's 20 songs. So let me ask you a question. So is it all your songs or can it be something that you were featured on?
- [64:09]
D
I mean, I believe it could be anything that you had something to do with. Okay. Yeah, hold on. I ain't tripping. You can hold on.
- [64:16]
E
Did you finish the album already?
- [64:18]
D
I could be finished, but it ain't finished till it's out.
- [64:22]
E
Hey, Listen, well, Tip, you know. You know I rap. Put your boy on now.
- [64:26]
D
I hear you.
- [64:27]
E
Yeah, you know I can.
- [64:31]
A
Come on, Tip. Tip. I would have to leave Georgia.
- [64:33]
D
Hey, get what? Hey, check this out. Pull on up one time. Man, I. Man, I just. I got. Just for the behind the scenes. Right. You know what I'm saying?
- [64:42]
A
No.
- [64:42]
E
You know, I could rap.
- [64:43]
D
I mean. Well, come on and do it then.
- [64:44]
E
Yeah, all right.
- [64:45]
A
Come on. Pull on up. We have to disown you, Tip.
- [64:51]
D
Pull on up. Man, he versa here. Yeah, he said we good. Don't do him like that. You never know what he got. Never know what the man got to say, man, don't do him like that.
- [65:01]
A
Got. The man got a hundred jobs. He got a hundred jobs.
- [65:05]
D
One of them got to pay eventually.
- [65:08]
A
Just the one that paid right here. Who you got winning the Super Bowl?
- [65:14]
D
Ah, man, to be honest with you, man, I think the Seahawks gonna get it. That what I think. That's what I think, you know? See, well, he didn't ask y'.
- [65:23]
A
All. You feel me? Oh, I know what I want. Your Falcons.
- [65:28]
D
Yeah.
- [65:29]
A
You got a new head coach.
- [65:30]
D
They do.
- [65:31]
A
You like to hire?
- [65:33]
D
I don't. I don't really know, bro. All I know is he. He bent shadu sandals. That's all I know about dog. I don't really know nothing about bro. But at the same time, that's not enough for me to form an opinion.
- [65:45]
A
Right.
- [65:45]
D
You know what I mean? So I got to at least give him time to. I got to allow him to it up. I can't.
- [65:52]
A
So how soon can we expect the Falcons to be playoff contenders and make a deep playoff run?
- [65:59]
F
Amen.
- [66:00]
A
I mean, because you look at what you got. You got.
- [66:02]
D
You know what? The Falcons, the Falcon fans every. Every next year. That's our year.
- [66:08]
A
You hear me? Y' all enjoy it.
- [66:10]
D
Connect next year. That's our year. But, you know, we beat. We beat New Orleans two times this.
- [66:15]
A
Year, so that's all that matter. Good.
- [66:18]
D
We swept the Saints. We fine, man. We straight, man.
- [66:22]
A
Because when you look at your team Tip, you. You got Bean, you got Drake London, Kyle Pitt.
- [66:27]
D
Lots of talent.
- [66:27]
A
Your defense got better and better. They got a lot of young talent. I mean, but you realize the. The NFC is becoming more and more and more more competitive.
- [66:36]
D
It is.
- [66:37]
A
So it's time for you guys to take that next step. Do you believe your quarterback, Matt Ryan, was UNWILLING Michael Pennix Jr. Coming off that knee injury? You believe Pennix is your guy?
- [66:46]
D
I. I mean, we need. We need. We need help. You Know what I'm saying? We need some help. I think we need some help. But we, but more than anything, what we need is we need to make better decisions within the executive staff. You know what I'm saying? We need to make better decision decisions. I think with better leadership and us enabled to make better decisions, I think the talent will be able to speak for itself at that point.
- [67:13]
E
Tip, what's next? You've done directing, acting, comedy, music. Left at peace, came back at peace because you love it, right? What's next for Tip?
- [67:26]
D
I'mma put this album out, man, and. And then I'm a kick shit, man. I'm going to continue, you know, to just find out what the people looking for and find a way to give it to them. I'm also enjoy the time that I'm be able to spend, you know, with my wife, with my children, with my grandchildren, you know what I'm saying? It time for me to really be able to enjoy the things, things, the simple things in life that, that. That we work so hard to earn enough money to be able to enjoy.
- [68:02]
C
I like it.
- [68:03]
A
I. What? You know, you put an album out, Tip, you got a tour, you got that kind of energy to get.
- [68:08]
D
Stop.
- [68:09]
F
See.
- [68:12]
D
Man, you got that kind of.
- [68:13]
A
Energy to do it.
- [68:14]
D
I'mma do about two, three shows.
- [68:19]
A
Come on, Tip.
- [68:20]
C
N. I'm.
- [68:21]
D
I'm just bullishing, bro. I mean, you know, I'mma do all the work it take to make it happen, man. I'mma do all. I'm going do what it takes.
- [68:27]
E
Hey, are we going to be on tour?
- [68:39]
D
Mercy Merkel.
- [68:41]
A
Do you still get the same excitement when you go into the booth? Do you. Is it still like the first time you went into the booth?
- [68:48]
D
Yeah.
- [68:49]
A
Are you still excited two decades later?
- [68:51]
D
Man, it depends on the beat. It really do. I'm more excited about some beats than I am about others. Right, but you know what I'm saying? But I still, I still accept the challenge of getting it done right.
- [69:04]
A
Yeah, man. Congratulations. You got a beautiful family, as you mentioned. The kids, the grandkids, all the best. That's the homeboy ti MC Ocho.
- [69:14]
E
Yeah.
- [69:16]
A
Appreciate you, bro.
- [69:19]
D
Love and respect.
- [69:20]
A
Appreciate you, bro.
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E
Y' all get ready for our album.
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