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Nightcap NBA Playoff Recap - Part 2: Coach Pop steps down as Spurs coach + Knick Advance
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Rob
Check.
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Advertiser 2
The volume.
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Host 1
Dame was apparently being shot the round before the injury. According to Sam Amick, the relationship between Giannis and Dame is strong, as is the respect level. But the imperfection of the on court pairing remain. In their second season together, and with the group collectively, limitations growing more evident by the month, a conversation was looming about whether Lillard and the Bucks might be better off parting ways. They ain't part ways, not because ain't nobody training for a guy that's not going to be able to play until 20, 26, 27. So you stuck with him and he not going to be able to help you. So now what do you do?
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Host 2
Q that that's interesting just to have tidbit. Like that's a little interesting tidbit to come out right now. Like the timing of it is just funny to me. But I mean, I don't know, maybe they try and move Dame still this summer like you stranger things that happen, man, I don't know man, I ain't trapping.
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Host 1
How you gonna give me a car? How you gonna try to sell me a car with no moat in it?
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Host 2
Because you seen the first where they tried to come out and already say like it was, it wasn't like a crazy tear or whatever. It was like, you know, the, I guess the minimum amount of damage it could be or whatever. So I don't know, man, I don't know. It's going to be interesting that like I say, unless Giannis come in and say something, it's going to be real interesting to see what goes on over there because I know the last thing they going to do, they not coming and offering no trade for Giannis. I don't.
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Host 1
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But see, that was the most shocking thing about the Luca trade. Luka didn't request to be traded. If we go back and study history, guys that have been moved, they wanted to be moved. Kareem wanted to be moved. Shaq wanted his money. Jerry Buss didn't want to give him his money. He was starting to age and he said, no, I'm going to move you. So when you look at it, Luka is 25, he had just turned, about to turn 26. He was in the league eight years. He was a five time first team all NBA selection and he got moved. So normally guys don't move. Guys like that. You're not moving Giannis Unless he says, come, move me, you don't move KD. Unless KD says, come move, move me, you don't move. With LeBron. LeBron has never, never asked to be traded. LeBron has always played out of his cont, played his contract out, and then he's left. But when you get guys like that. Celtics aren't trading Jason Tatum unless Jason Tatum says, I want to be traded. You see Donovan Mitchell Utah moved him. Why? Because he said he wanted to go.
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Rob
Yeah.
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Host 1
It really that simple?
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Rob
Yeah.
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Host 1
No nightcap family. Let's give it up for Q. Thank him for joining us. Go follow him. Q Rich and his podcast, Knucklehead Podcast. Q, man, thank you for your time. Thanks for joining us to break down these games and talk all things basketball. Congratulations on the podcast. Keep growing, Keep doing your thing. Thank you, bro. Get back with us.
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Host 2
Appreciate it.
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Rob
Before I get out of here, I.
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Host 2
Just gotta say one thing to you. Michael Jeffrey Jordan is the goat. I'm not gonna debate it. I'm not gonna argue it.
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Host 1
Okay?
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Rob
It what it is.
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Host 1
Jalen Brunson, game winner over the Pistons. What a shot. What a moment. The Knicks win the series. Rob, you're one of the great clutch shot shooters. Let me ask you this. I think for our audience, they wanna know in that moment, are you thinking like, man, if I make this shot, I'm a hero if I miss it, or you just going through the. It's the same whether the moment is there or not. It's just like if it was the first quarter, the second quarter, or third quarter. What goes through your head when you're taking a shot that could potentially win you the game or lose you the game.
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Rob
You don't think about anything, man, because it's just like when you in a gym, you taking all these shots to prepare for this moment. You put the reps in and that's what you gotta do. That's why you see guys, you take Kobe, for instance, he's been in the gym 24 7, so everything came easy for him. And if you put in the time and the work and the sacrifice, these moments like this, you don't even think about it. You think about Jalen Brunson. Most guys, they like going to the offhand to pull up for the jump shot because you can square up a little bit better. He got you going left like he thought, oh, he's a strong left guy. He was setting him up. He set Thompson up. I'm coming right back over here to where I want to knock down this three. So it's just, it's just a process that you go through each and every day. And you watch him, he is so good at manipulating the defense. He can get you on your hip and then he can cause the contact or he can get you, he can, he can gauge your speed. If you going too fast, he stops on a dime and pulls up. And I think for him and any, any guy who's playing this game long enough, you don't think about it, you just do it. Is it, it's just second nature. Second nature thing to you, man. You just, you just enjoy the moment and you just hope that you make that mug so you can talk a lot of shit.
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Host 1
He, he does a great job, Rob, as you mentioned, but he gets his body in such a position to shoot that shot because like you said, he's a left handed player. And most left handed players are left hand dominant. They're trying to get to that left side, they want to go left. He did that. And then if you notice, he stepped back and squared himself and let it go. He hit Schroeder. He got an and one on Schroeder and he got a tough step back. He, I mean, the way he can like get his body in position to take and make tough shots for a guy his size. He's not a big guy. I mean, his body, I mean, you know what I'm saying? He's, you know, he got a little, little girth to him. You know, he got some. But he's, I mean, he. What you think, six foot? I think he about six, six, one. But his ability. And he's stronger than you think for a guy his size because the way he can like put that, that shoulder in your chest and get up and get that shot off that float on.
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Rob
Yep.
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Host 1
Square himself. And to knock these shots down, he was sensational. They couldn't buy a basket for the first nine, ten minutes of the ball game. And then all of a sudden he said, man, just give me the ball. What y'all doing? And every shot that needed to be taken and made, now they got a huge tip in by Bridges. Somebody missed a shot and they didn't block out. Bridges got the tip. They tied it up. But you know, once they missed that shot, I said, oh boy, y'all better get this ball. Because Thompson had just made a great defensive play of like two possessions earlier. He got a shot clock violation on his cardio. He went to go up and he stripped him on the ball. He's like, yeah, Russell, I got something.
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Rob
For you.
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Host 3
But hold On, I got a question for you, for Rob, man, for you and Unk. Right. As great as Jalen Brunson was in this series, as great as he's been, obviously being a very, very clutch player. Hell, he just won NBA clutch player of the year. Right? All right. Obviously showing his offensive prowess tonight with 40. Is there any chance y'all giving the Knicks and winning this series against the Celtics any chance?
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Rob
No, no, no, no. And the reason I say no is because when you look at the Celtics, they got six guys that can score. And every time I look at the Knicks, they remind me of AI. You know, they got this one guy that does all the scoring. Everybody else does two or three things really, really good to make that pie whole. And I do take out Bridges, who's one of my favorite players when they use him and he's able to score, they're a totally different team. But I just think the Celtics has too much firepower. And one of the things they don't talk about with the Celtics is you look at them, they got four good defensive players out there on that court, you know, and that's. And, and we don't talk about that because he's so caught up in all the threes they shoot. But you think about, you know, White, Holiday, even Brown. These guys are good defenders. And so they got bodies to throw at Bronson a little short tail. And so that's going to be hard. And you know, going back to Bronson, the one thing that makes him really good is this is going to sound really crazy is left handed players are always have that ability to get to the line and do things because you're not used to that. You hardly ever run across a left handed player. You think about Manu Ginovi who I play with, he was so good because you think he's about to do something. He's right. He's like, oh shit, he's left handed. And by the time you think about it, it's fucking late. He done jade you up. And because it's just not what you used to, it's uncommon. But I just think he. I think the Knicks might win one game because they play hard. Overall, I just think the Celtics, yeah, it's going to be a gentleman sweep, man. I just think this. The Celtics stay healthy. But you know, they, they've been getting a little banged up in there. But I just think the Celtics are too good.
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Host 1
Yeah. Because when you look at it, think about where they go. They got Derrick White that can defend, they got Holiday that can defend. They got JB that could defend. They got bigger Horford that can defend. Porzingis can protect the paint. And then they bring Pritchard off the bench. That can score. Howser that can score. Cornette that can give you a little rebounding. They're loaded. We know JT can defend if you have to, but he can score. JB can score, Derrick White can score. They got scores and they got defenders. So they're always going to have, at bare minimum, two quality defenders on the court at all times. And so when you have that, when you got two guys that can defend. But look what they start with. So if they start Holiday, you got Holiday, Derrick White, jp, Al Horford.
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Host 3
Honestly, I'm gonna tell you this. I like the Knicks winning at least three games.
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Host 1
No, I didn't win.
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Rob
Yeah, I. Winning three games. I got.
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Host 3
Winning three games. I mean, hey, Raw, you wanna. You wanna. You wanna bet something on it? You wanna throw a little throw wager on there?
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Rob
What you want me see?
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Host 3
Make it lighter yourself. Bet 5200.
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Rob
That's very specific. Why you said.
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Host 3
I've been trying to. I'm sure I owe him 5200. So I'm just trying to. I'm trying to make it up some other kind of way and try to break it.
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Host 1
You Rob, Let me ask you this. Of all the game winners that you've hit, what's your favorite one?
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Rob
Lakers against Kings.
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Host 1
When the ball came out that game seven, was that a game? That was game seven.
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Rob
That was game four. Game four. You know, we lose that game, we go down three. One. And the reason is my favorite because if you look at most of my game winners, they were all done on the road. And so this one was done at home.
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Host 1
And you got a chance to rejoice in it with the crowd.
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Rob
Yeah, I got. I grew up a huge Lakers fan, man. I grew up a big Magic Johnson fan. You know, you would never. Being a Laker, you used to them chanting Kobe, Kobe or Shaq. You know, when you get a chance to knock down a big three and you hit them, chant your name like that, man, it's the best feeling ever. I think for me, it's probably outside of Kobe's last game is the greatest moment in Staples crypto. And every time I see the shot from above when I'm making and the crowd just jumps up and cheers, I get goosebumps every time I see it. Even though I love what I did in 2005 against the Pistons in Game 5 when I lit their ass.
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Host 1
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Yeah.
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Rob
Yeah. But, you know, it's something, you know, we all, as an athlete, we all got that ego, we all got that pride. You want to hear them fans chant your name? But I tell you what, I only have, like, one pitch up. I don't even have that shot up in my house. But I do have the picture of me making that shot against the Pistons, because I just like looking at the faces of the people in the crowd. You got some people, like, don't know. And you got one guy in the crowd like this, like. Cause he knew it was going in.
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Host 1
People. I don't know if people realize this, Rob, but before those black injuries, you were a high flyer. You was Ella. I mean, you was punching on folks. I mean, you were up, over the top. People look at you and it's like, man, all he did was shoot threes. No, no, no, no, no. When you came in, I mean, I don't know what it is about them Alabama guys. You and McNice, all them guys had up ups, up and away ups. And I don't know if people realize that, but you were a high flyer, a 610 guy that finished above the rim. And then you turned yourself. I think it was the back injury that you turned yourself in. More of a shooter. You still could punch your folks, but not like you could when you first got into Houston.
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Rob
No, no. It's so weird when you come in the league, funny story is like, my, my middle son, he came to me one time like, daddy, you don't ever dunk anymore. You can't even dunk. And there's that one dunk in the playoff against the Detroit Pistons that I dunked on Rip Hamilton when I took it outside the bank. And I said, see, your dad can still dunk. I just don't have to. But you know, the weird part about it is when I got to the Lakers, they were like, oh, we don't want you to. You know, they said, we need you. Just spot up. And the worst thing as an athlete, any athletes listening, is don't let coaches limit you, limit you in what you can do. And I think, you know, this day and age is a little bit different back then. It was a little bit more, I need you to do this, this, and this. And so in my mind became, okay, this is what they want me to do. Spot up and shoot threes and all this kind of stuff. But I, I, I showed my, my, my, my, my youngest son, Christian, who's at ucla. I said, let me show you something. Man, come sit down. And I showed him my highlights of me and rockets. When I used to dunk, he looked at me like, damn, you had hops. I was like, yeah, I just stopped doing it.
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Host 1
Yeah.
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Rob
Because they didn't want. I didn't have room to do it because Shaq was in the dead. That's dope.
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Host 3
That's live. Hey, hey, hey, Rob some of, some of those clutch shots you hit, were you able. Did you ever keep any of the balls or. Especially, especially. I mean, you, you got some really, really, really good moments. And for me, I would want to keep those. I would, I would, I personally would want to keep those balls. You know, you don't have any.
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Rob
You know, I, I really, I, I have, I have one, I have one from. It's actually this, the game seven ball against the Knicks. I have that. And only reason I have that because I, I said, because the first two points of game seven was me dunking on Patrick. And I like, I want that ball. I want that ball. So I, I have that ball. And I wish I had the one I made against the Kings because I, I might. If I lost, if I banded you and lost, I just sell that and give me a lot of money to cover that. So I know you Laker fans will love that ball.
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Host 3
Speaking of, you talk about balls and, and being able to sell a ball and get you a lot of money. Listen, I got a prize possession. That's what I meant to say. I'm supposed to have it enclosed in the case. Right. But I got the game ball when LeBron hit his 50th point.
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Host 1
50,000.
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Host 3
Yeah, like, listen, 50,000 point. And that's something that you would think.
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Host 1
He would keep show up to see.
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Host 3
Yeah. So it's a 50,000 point ball right there you see 50,000 points and the bar size department.
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Rob
Yeah, yeah.
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Host 3
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Host 1
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Rob
Exactly. Real hard times.
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Rob
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Rob
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Rob
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Rob
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Rob
Wow.
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Rob
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Host 1
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Rob
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Rob
Line.
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Host 1
Greg Popovich stepped out as a coach of the San Antonio spurs today, ending a nearly three decade run that saw him lead a team to five championships. He's the all time winningest coach in NBA history and he's a three time.
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Rob
Coach of the year.
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Host 1
And he's a Hall of fame, won a gold medal and he's inducted to the basketball hall of Fame. Rob, you played for Pop. What was it about Pop that made him special? What's going to be your lasting memory of playing for Pop?
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Rob
I think for me it's just how genuine he was. And you know, he was one of those coaches where. He's one of those coaches where he'll yell at you and then take you to have some gnocchi and some wine. You know his two favorite things. And for me, I think I tell this story all the time. The one thing that really made me fall in love with the guy was my daughter, who passed away, was really sick my last year with the spurs. And she went into the hospital, like, at the beginning of the season, and he was like, don't come back until she's out of the hospital. And I sat in the hospital with her for, like, three weeks, and then she finally got out of the hospital, and I came back, like, a day after. He says, is she out of the hospital? Like, yes. She got home, like, two days ago. He said, she ain't out of the woods yet. Go back home. We don't really need you right now. And I looked at him like, are you trying to get rid of me? Off on the slide. He said, no, man. Family first, you know? Family first. And that's what. That's how Pop always was, man. You know, I just heard today about the story of Demar Derosan. When his pops passed, and now he. It's like. And that goes to show you, you know, there's some things bigger than a freaking game, right? And Pop realized that, you know, he was always about, you know, spending time with your family, doing what's important. And I remember, even my last year, I went to him, and I was like, you know, I'm gonna ask a favor. Like, what? I said, it's my last year. I said, can I. My son's on spring break. We going on a road trip. Can I bring my son with me? Like, yeah, don't even ask me no question like that. He said, this is. You know, it's about the family. It's about doing things. And a lot of teams wouldn't let you do that, you know? Cause I remember the Lakers back in the day, you say, hey, can't get the flight back. No liability, you know, insurance thing. I'm like, what is this, a flight home? So. But Pop was. He was really, really good about, man, if it came down to your family, you do whatever's necessary for your family.
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Host 1
Everybody talks about the relationship that he had with Duncan because I think Duncan was the length, man, because if you could coach Tim Duncan hard, you can coach everybody else hard. And Timmy was receptive, and that's what you have to. Timmy was one of these superstars that if you didn't watch the game, you would never know he was a superstar. He didn't dress like a superstar. Hell, I remember he showed up to pick up an MVP trophy with flip flops and shorts on. David Stern. David Stern probably won. Want to swing on titty Head on jorts. You feel that, Bob?
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Rob
Yeah. Hand on jean shorts.
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Host 1
Like, hey. But that was Timmy. What, what was it about Coach Pop and Tim's relationship that made it so unique and special?
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Rob
I, I think we're going to back this up a little bit because you really have to credit David Robinson. Because you think about, he had David Robinson when Tim came and David was like, yo, this is what we do here. And Tim just follows suit. You know, Tim is just that type of guy. He doesn't say much. You can talk. If you talk about cars, he'll talk to you, talk about video games, he'll talk to you, talk about poker, those three things, and he'll talk about that. He ain't gonna really talk to you. For us, you know, we, we. It, it took me a year just to get him to say a couple words to me and, but he is just, he, he, he is a type of guy who's really focused. We don't, you know, we always talk about Kobe's work ethic. We talk. But this dude was always in the gym shoot shots. You know, I'm always trying to get to perfect that bank shot, which we know he's famous for shooting a lot of free throws because, you know, he, that was one of his, his downfall.
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Host 1
One of his weaknesses when he came in.
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Rob
Yeah, yeah. And he just, he, he, he worked hard, but he was just, he. If you talk about guys who, you know, I used to, I had to get on to him one time like, dude, can you yell at somebody? Man, you sitting over there like with your mouth closed, you know, you yell at someone, you're gonna be like E.F. hutton. Everybody's gonna perk up and listen. So he was just, he was very mild mannered. Well, he's mild minded. He didn't wanna say much, but the guy was, he competed and he was. And when he let you into his world, one of the nicest guys you'll meet.
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Host 1
You mentioned the Twin Towers. Cause David Robinson was there. But when David was there, I mean, they won them championship with David, but David was on the tail end of his career. That was, I mean, basically the Tim Duncan team from the time he walked in the door. Oh, he was, he was just that good. And he was one of the last guys that was a true senior. That was the number one overall. Kenya Martin was the last one, I think in 2000. But Timmy was what, 90, 98. I think the 98 draft was Timmy's first year. But he was the last, the last of those guys that went four Years of college and came out so he was more than ready, more than prepared for the grind because basically he was a grown man when he wasn't 18, he wasn't 17. But Tim Duggan was a 22 year old grown man when he got to the NBA.
- [27:04]
Rob
So you tell me something I did not know. I thought he came out early. You just so used to everybody coming out early, you know, think about and that, that's the one thing that I hate about the NBA. I know these dudes are freaking 21 when they get to college now, but I just wish that, that, that, that I'm about to say David Stern, that alum Silver put like two years onto it. Because these guys, you can tell by the way these guys play now. That's why so many threes are being shot. Because they don't know how to play. They doing what's easy. It's taking the threes and not learning the game. You know, you got some guys that are going to come in the league that know how to play the game because of the upbringing and how they would talk. But it's just, it's just, it's just a lot of bad basketball being played because guys don't know how to play. You know, you think about tonight, watch the game. Like, dude, the first thing you learn in high school and college is how to beat the damn zone, right? The zone is the easiest freaking thing to beat. And you can't beat a zone. It's like go to the open spots, go to the Duncan spot, go back door. And it just shows you right there that the guys aren't learning anything because they all just trying to, you know, get to the next level to the league without learning something.
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Host 1
Rob, you played with some of the greats. I mean, you was on a team with Tim Duncan, you was on the team with Shaq and Kobe. You was on the team with a lot Dream and Drexler. And I know people ask you what the difference between Dream and Duncan, the difference between Duncan and Shaq, the difference between Clyde and Kobe. What are some of the different. Look, because, look, all of those guys that I just mentioned are 75 greatest players in NBA history. MVPs, Finals, MVPs, Defensive players of the year. When you got, when you got to the Rockets, what was it about the dream that you know, okay, this guy's special. What set him apart?
- [28:46]
Rob
Oh, shit. I knew dream was special when I watched him in high school. I mean college, because hey, when I was coming out, I said, I want to play alongside this guy. You know, I was praying that I went to the Rockets, and God willing, I did, because you could just see his work ethic. You know, you watched him. You know, guys always talking about going into the lab. Dream would be in the lab, and we didn't even know it. He would be working on stuff, and then he'll just all of a sudden get in the game. You know, you think about 95, how he annihilated David.
- [29:14]
Host 1
Yeah. Cause he said they took. They gave him. Took his MVP from him.
- [29:17]
Rob
Yeah. All that stuff we had never seen before. You should have seen us on the court. We're going like, oh, kill him, Drake. We became fans on the court, right? And so he just. And you. You watch him, man. He just played hard, man. You think about, you know, back in the day when he. You forget, he used to knock some people out, too.
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Host 1
Oh, yeah.
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Rob
You know, he had that toughness. You know, you. You elbow him. He would. He was. Because it was only a 50, fine. And, you know, punch someone in the face. And so he had that toughness, and he just had that. The one thing about dream, though, is he. We talk about how hard guys play is, like, how hard Giannis plays, how hard Bronson plays, how hard he's got dream. Play hard each and every night. And, you know, people would talk about, who's the greatest center, who's this, who's that? Dream, to me, is always going to be top three centers.
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Host 1
Wow.
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Rob
Because if he needed to shoot threes, he could have shot threes. He didn't, because he had us out there, and you couldn't stop him in the paint any damn way. So he just going to keep you that way. So he was just, you know, he was just a hard worker and. But more importantly, great guy, because he taught me about the business of basketball. He was like, yo, I remember one time at a Christmas party, he took me outside, said, listen, listen, you're going to be on this team. Now, let's talk about, you know, things outside of basketball. What you doing with your money, you know, how's the family? You know, are you investing? Do you have the right people? He was just a good guy. You know, a lot of guys now, you know, they won't. They won't come to you and be like, yo, man, you need to check your finance. You need to do this. They like it. I learned it on my own. You on your own. And so I just. That's one of the things I loved about dream.
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Host 1
He.
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Rob
He taught me about the business of basketball.
- [30:51]
Host 1
So you leave Houston and you go to the well, you know, you have, you didn't go right to. You gotta go there, huh? No, you have.
- [30:58]
Rob
You gotta talk about the Sonics, man. Start.
- [30:59]
Host 1
You got a little bit started saying you have a cup of coffee at the airport, you got right back on the plane and went to la. So you get to la, Shaq and Kobe, what you like? Damn. Got Shaq, got Kobe. What y'all need me to do?
- [31:20]
Rob
You know, it's weird. When I got there, man, I was looking at the team. We had Nick Van Exel at the point, we had Eddie Jones at the two. I said, okay, I can play the three. You know, back then I was a three man. And I said, we got a young guy like this. You know, everybody's like, oh, you got to see his rookie, Kobe Bryant. I'm like, who? And then you get to the practice, you see how good this dude is. Okay. He's learning. And then you got Shaq, you know, you say, okay, Shaq just got beaten 9 to 5 in the finals and you got all this talent. I said, oh, man, we about to do some work. I said, we're going to do some work for some years because everybody's young, Everybody's on a 30. But sometimes it goes to show you too many cooks in the kitchen when it comes to basketball ain't good. You got to have some guys that are glue guys, some screw guys, you know, some boats and do the things to keep the team together. And you think about, we had four all stars.
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Host 1
Yeah.
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Rob
And then we got swept by a damn team that had been together for 30 years.
- [32:09]
Host 1
Oh, you thought that was Kobe. That was Kobe's rookie year, wasn't it?
- [32:12]
Rob
That was Kobe's rookie year. Yeah. Yep. And then the final. And then that 99, we got beat by the Spurs. Lost the last game in the form to the Spurs. And then that was when we got new coaches and we said, we got rid of Nick, we got rid of Eddie and we brought in defensive minded people. You know, we brought in Ron Harper, we brought in B. Shaw, we brought in Rick Fox, we did all these things. AC Green. And it was that glue.
- [32:37]
Host 1
Was whole Grant there then or whole Grant only came for the last.
- [32:40]
Rob
No, whole Grant was on. On the second championship in 2000. 2001. Yeah. So. And it was just weird, man. You just. And, and it goes to show you, when you got too much talent, it's hard to blend in the way.
- [32:51]
Host 1
But when you got.
- [32:52]
Rob
When you got enough talent and you got guys who are mature and you can you can tell Kobe and Sha to shut up and sit your ass down and do what you're supposed to do. And they gonna. They go, you think about it. We used to tell Kobe, no, dude, you ain't doing that tonight. Oh, Shaq, you ain't doing that. And they will listen to us because we are veteran guys, you know, now you got this going on. Guys, you know, respect us. We had a lot of respect for one another, and it was no animosity. And people always ask me about the Kobe, Shaq thing. I was like, man, I must have been fucking blinded because they never had beef in front of us. It was all in the papers, man. You know, and that was the weirdest thing. When people like, we'll talk about it. I'm like, they in the locker room laughing and joking. They the first people to hug after a championship. I know. You tell me up you won a championship, who was the first person you hugged after you won a champion? It's probably your favorite player on the team.
- [33:43]
Host 1
Absolutely.
- [33:44]
Rob
And so that's why I was like, Melvin Ridley. They would say, oh, they beefing. I'm like, when?
- [33:48]
Host 1
Where?
- [33:49]
Rob
So it was just weird to me.
- [33:50]
Host 1
How good was Shaq? You look at Shaq, and I tell people. I don't think people realize how athletic Shaq was when Shaq got to the league. Like Shaq first five or six years, when Shaq was like 71325 and can move like a deer. We're never gonna see that again. You're never gonna see a guy his size with that kind of agility. You're just not. Now, you might have, like, a Jokic got the footwork, and Joel and Mead got footwork, but I'm talking about just raw athleticism and power and dominant. You're never gonna see a Will O'Neal again. Never.
- [34:18]
Rob
Yeah, never. You know, you think about. If you always talk about. You start a team. If I could take the 2000, the 1999, 2000 Shaq, the MVP Shaq, and have him that Shaq, and put him on. That's my first person. Not Jordan, not Dream, not Kareem. That's the first person I picked to start my life. I can get that. Shaq, because he was just so dominant. He was just so strong, so athletic. You think about this. This guy can bring the ball down, crosses you up, spin, take out from outside the paint, then monkey duck on your ass. And then you could do. You know, and. And. And you. You go back and look at a lot of tape. And I've heard This out of ref's mouth. I'm sitting there. You can hear all he is on him, and he's not getting the call. They like, oh, he's too big. He should be able to handle that. I'm like, dude, it's a freaking file. He's slapping the sh. I said, all right, y'all gonna piss him off. And then I'm gonna get out of the way cuz he gonna start elbowing people. And you can tell when he got frustrated, because he'll do that spe. He don't care who he is. I'm like, so, yeah, he was. He was like. I said, if you got one player, one moment, I'm taking 1999, 2000 Shaq, and I'm starting the team with that guy. If I can get that guy each and every night.
- [35:34]
Host 1
Okay, Kobe. Kobe is a 17. He gets that 17 now. By the time they start to win championships, he's the Kobe. He's become what he became, and you get to see it on full display. He can still elevate over the top. He got the midi. He could bop, bop, bop, bop. Oh, he had. He had the package. And if you need him to sit in the chair for 40 minutes and take the opposing team 0.23, I got it.
- [36:03]
Host 3
Yeah.
- [36:05]
Rob
And he wanted that challenge. And, you know, I know you think LeBron is the greatest of all time, and people talk about MJ being the greatest of all time. I want you to think you. When you watch Kobe Bryant, he did every freaking thing like mj, and he probably took it to another level because Kobe. You know, when Kobe first came in the league, we used to laugh and joke with, like, you can't shoot threes. He just shoot threes like mj. But he.
- [36:34]
Host 1
We.
- [36:34]
Rob
We would, like, joke with him. So that dude be in the gym Every morning at 5:00 shooting number threes, and now he can shoot threes. And it's things like that. That why he was great. You could tell him he was not good at something. He will prove you wrong by going in and working on it and adding it to his game. This dude, you know, God rest his soul, was the hardest working dude I ever seen in my life. And you think about where he went from his rookie year where he just played.
- [37:02]
Host 1
Wow.
- [37:02]
Rob
You know, he didn't have no structure to his game to understanding that. Oh, I got to tone this down. And I don't know if it's because he talked to mj, he talked to Phil whatnot, but when we got Phil, it made him more structured than I've ever seen before. So he. The dude was just phenomenal, man. So I hate when we talk about the goat and we never bring him up, like, because it's like, you know, to me, the goats are MJ, Colby, LeBron and Kareem. Those are the goats. And why do we have to put 1, 1, 2, 1, 3, and 4? Those four guys right there, Wagway, Kansas, four goats. That's the Mount Rushmore right there.
- [37:40]
Host 1
Why. Why didn't playing on that team alongside Shaq and Kobe, why didn't they win more individual MVPs? Kobe didn't win one until later, late, like 2001, I think, 2009 to 2010, he won the MVP. Why didn't they win if. Why didn't shaq win more MVPs? Why didn't Kobe win MVPs? Did they cancel each other out?
- [38:01]
Rob
I don't think they cancel each other out. I just think, you know, if you look at the league back then, it was hard to win back to backs unless you was a white guy named Steve Nash. And so, you know, you think about that second Steve Nash.
- [38:16]
Host 1
I should have won that in Miami. For real, though.
- [38:19]
Rob
Yeah. So it's so many things you can look at. It's just weird. You know, you think about MJ when he was in the league, he didn't win it every year. You know, it's always someone different. And like, you think about this year, even though Jokic is having the best freaking career, best year of his career.
- [38:35]
Host 1
He ain't going to win.
- [38:36]
Rob
He'll probably give it to Shay, you know, and. And it's just how they do it. And I don't know why, but I think Kobe should have probably won at least three. Shaq should run at least. I should say Shaq should won at least two. You know, I think his. His. I say the year he won it, he should have won it, and then the following year, he should have won it. You know, other than that, I think, you know, because you think about his third year, my third championship, he wasn't as dominant as he was. He was still effective. He just didn't bring that. You think about it, he wasn't the Shaq before that. And that's what they based off. They always say, okay, we gonna take your last year. What did you do better than that year? And I think he was just consistent. He never, like, went up a little bit to another level.
- [39:20]
Host 1
Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan had one of the great games. He had a damn near quadruple double he was two blocks away from a quadruple double in an NBA Finals game. When he played. When he played the. The Nets that year, I think he had 21 points, 20 rebounds, 10 assists, and eight blocks.
- [39:41]
Rob
Yeah, that was a nest, man. A nest. That was a nest. We had just. We had just swept the Nets the year before that or whatever it was. The nest was like, you know, P.O. j. Skidd, Richard Jefferson, that crew, you know, you was a beast in the east, but when it came to playing teams with the west, you just like. You like the Lakers and the Clippers, you just a little brother. So it was.
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Host 1
It was.
- [40:03]
Rob
They made it a good ch. But you go back and look at the east back then, east was terrible, man. They were God awful. And so. But Tim Duncan, though, that goes to show you, when he wants to take over, he can take over, man. He.
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Advertiser 1
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Rob
And the one thing I like about Tim, when it comes to blocking shots, he didn't care if you dunked on. He, like, I don't care. I don't have social media. I don't care what you say. You know, people in San Antonio are going to still bow down to me. And, you know, most guys will shot away from trying to, you know, go up against a Venice car. Think he might get dunked on. They like, nah, I ain't challenging that. Tim didn't give a shit. He would try to challenge you anyway to block it because he. He. He knew nine times out of 10, he was going to block it, and it's going to start a fast break.
- [40:43]
Host 1
All right, your Mount Rushmore teammates, you get four teammates on. On. On Mount Rushmore. Who you going with?
- [40:51]
Rob
Dream, Shaq, Kobe? Clyde.
- [40:58]
Host 1
Damn, you ain't. You took Clyde over Timmy.
- [41:02]
Rob
You know what? This is one of the things, you know, I love Timmy, but I'm going with Clyde. Clyde's my boy, man. You know, sometimes personal feelings get in the way. Hey, I'm doing the Steve Kerr right now. I'm putting you. Hey, but, you know, people don't. I think people forget how good Clyde was, man.
- [41:21]
Host 1
The point. He took a kind of a backseat when he got to Houston. But. But. But Martin Clyde, I remember. Hell, I remember when he was dunking on everybody at F JAMA in the University of Houston. Yeah, yeah, but he used to. Clyde used to elevate.
- [41:38]
Rob
Yeah. You know, and another reason I didn't put Tim in that, because I remember, you know, I'm watching the hall of Fame ceremony, and I watch Rudy T. Get inducted, and then when Rudy T. Gave me a Shout out for the hall of Fame and they pan through the crowd and Tim didn't clap. So that's why he ain't on my.
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Host 1
Hey.
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Rob
Because I Hey. I just, I started calling, said I saved your ass in 2005. Excuse my life. You better get your ass up and clap. Missing that damn leg. Take over sparring.
- [42:15]
Host 1
Got some cap space. They got it. They got a night. Hey, they got Stefan Castle who's rookie of the year. Wimby was previous rookie of the year. They got. Do they. Would you make the move for Giannis? Would you try to package some pieces for Giannis?
- [42:31]
Rob
That's the thing you got. Don't you forget about Darren Fox. I think that's. That's hard to say. I would because you can't pass. Oh, I think that's going to be the hottest commodity this summer. Everybody's going to want the Greek Creek because he's that type of player. You know, I mentioned him earlier how hard he played. So this is going to be really interesting to see where he goes if Milwaukee want to give him up. But if I'm the, if I'm the Spurs, we got the cast space to. Why not go after him? Because you know he'll love it there because he got a good. One thing about the spurs franchise is it's a good franchise. They're very humble franchise. And you don't have to worry about a lot of outside noise. You think about in LA and you know, Chicago, New York, there's a lot outside north. So you being in Milwaukee, are used to the outside. No, it's been at a minimum. So if you go to the spurs, you're in the same thing. So I don't know if he wants that. I don't know if he wants, you know, be more, you know, I can't get no more notable in your ass retreat. But does he want a bigger market?
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Rob
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Rob
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