Nightcap NBA Playoff Recap - Part 2: NBA Trash Talk + Will Grizzlies trade Ja Morant?

Summary

Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay – "Nightcap NBA Playoff Recap - Part 2: NBA Trash Talk + Will Grizzlies Trade Ja Morant?"

Episode Details

• Title: Nightcap NBA Playoff Recap - Part 2: NBA Trash Talk + Will Grizzlies Trade Ja Morant?
• Release Date: May 2, 2025
• Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (as Shannon), Sports Analyst, Chad, GP, Ryan
• Description: NFL legend Shannon Sharpe joins fellow analysts to dissect the latest NBA playoff action, diving deep into game performances, strategic decisions, player dynamics, and trade rumors surrounding star player Ja Morant.

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1. Lakers vs. Minnesota: A Close Call

The episode kicks off with a detailed analysis of the intense playoff game between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Minnesota Timberwolves. Despite holding a significant lead of 10-12 points into the fourth quarter, the Lakers succumbed to a late surge led by Minnesota's standout player, Ant Man (Giannis Antetokounmpo).

• Key Performance Highlights:
  • Ant Man's Dominance: Scored 43 points, including 16 in the fourth quarter, propelling Minnesota to outscore the Lakers 32-13 in the final period.
    • Sports Analyst [02:14]: "Ant Man went berserk... he scored 16 of his game-high 43 points..."
  • LeBron's Fatigue: Despite contributing 27 points, LeBron James was visibly exhausted, failing to score in the fourth quarter.
    • Sports Analyst [02:14]: "LeBron had zero points in the fourth quarter. He's exhausted."

Strategic Decisions:

• Lakers' Lineup: The Lakers maintained their starting lineup throughout the game, with no substitutions, leading to significant fatigue.
  • Sports Analyst [02:14]: "nobody subbed for the Lakers in the second half... everybody that started the game played 24 minutes..."
• Defense Woes: The Lakers struggled defensively, unable to contain Minnesota's bench players who contributed crucial points.
  • Shannon [04:37]: "the Lakers can't play defense. They have no defense at all."

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2. The Importance of a Supporting Cast

A recurring theme in the discussion is the necessity of a strong supporting cast to back superstar players.

• Supporting Roles: Shannon emphasizes that relying solely on superstars like LeBron and Luka is insufficient without capable role players to contribute effectively.
  • Shannon [05:11]: "It's about who’s gonna support my superstar to get me to win basketball games."
• Bench Contributions: Minnesota's bench players outperformed the Lakers', providing essential support that led to their comeback.
  • Sports Analyst [10:07]: "They played the bench and gave you 20 points. Nas Reed, DiVincenzo, and Nikhil Alexander Walker stepped up."

Fatigue Management:

• Resting Strategies: Shannon criticizes the Lakers' coaching decisions to play star players continuously without adequate rest.
  • Shannon [16:13]: "I would have gave him five to six minutes and then still controlled it."

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3. LeBron and Luka's Impact

LeBron James and Luka Doncic's performances were central to the Lakers' initial dominance but ultimately led to their downfall due to overexertion.

• LeBron's Playtime: Averaging 40 minutes, LeBron's extensive minutes contributed to his fatigue.
  • Sports Analyst [02:14]: "LeBron had 38, 40 minutes a night ago..."
• Luka's Role: Luka stepped up significantly in the first half but couldn't maintain consistency in the latter part of the game.
  • Sports Analyst [02:14]: "Luka, played 45 and a half minutes... turned into a pure scorer."

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4. Ja Morant and the Memphis Grizzlies: Trade Speculations

A significant portion of the episode addresses rumors surrounding Memphis Grizzlies' star player Ja Morant and the potential for a trade.

• Trade Considerations: Analysts discuss whether the Grizzlies will move Ja Morant in response to his performance and off-court issues.
  • Chad [52:35]: "I just think Shay should be the MVP this year... I want to see Shay have 10 points, a bad night, foul trouble. Who's going to step up?"
• Team Dynamics: There's concern about whether Memphis can continue to build around Morant or if a change is imminent.
  • Shannon [60:00]: "They have to figure it out. Two totally different teams with or without, so they have to figure it out."

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5. Trash Talking in the NBA Playoffs

The episode delves into the culture of trash talk in the playoffs, highlighting its impact on player performances and team morale.

• Player Interactions: Shannon recounts witnessing heated exchanges between players, emphasizing that actions on the court speak louder than words off it.
  • Shannon [43:23]: "If you say something to me, I'm gonna give you a fight... Prove it on the basketball court."
• Psychological Edge: The analysts debate whether trash talk can provide a strategic advantage or merely escalate tensions.
  • Sports Analyst [44:15]: "Stop him from doing it, and he won't say it no more."

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6. Future Outlook and Predictions

Wrapping up the episode, the hosts share their predictions for the remainder of the playoffs, focusing on the Lakers' chances and Memphis Grizzlies' trajectory.

• Lakers' Chances: With a 3-1 series deficit, Shannon and Sports Analyst are skeptical about the Lakers' ability to mount a comeback.
  • Shannon [15:00]: "No way they gonna beat them three in a row. Ain't no way."
• Memphis Grizzlies' Path: Confidence is expressed in Memphis's depth and bench strength, suggesting they are poised for a deep playoff run.
  • Chad [52:49]: "They're going to have a deep run... who can step up to help Shay out?"

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Notable Quotes

1. Shannon on Lakers' Defense:

   • "The Lakers can't play defense. They have no defense at all." [05:11]

2. Sports Analyst on Ant Man's Performance:

   • "Ant man did what a superstar supposed to do. GP and Drew Randall and Jane Daniels have been sensational in the postseason." [02:14]

3. Chad on Ja Morant's Potential:

   • "I want to see Shay have 10 points, a bad night, foul trouble. Who's going to step up?" [52:35]

4. Shannon on Supporting Cast:

   • "It's about who’s gonna support my superstar to get me to win basketball games." [05:11]

5. Sports Analyst on Playoff Strategies:

   • "When you play a team like this, you have to cash in on every opportunity, every opportunity." [11:52]

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Conclusion

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe and his panel provide an in-depth analysis of the latest NBA playoff battles, emphasizing the critical role of supporting players and strategic rest for star athletes. The discussion underscores the challenges faced by teams like the Lakers when attempting to rely solely on their star power without adequate bench support. Additionally, the potential trade of Ja Morant adds an intriguing layer to the Grizzlies' future, highlighting the ever-evolving dynamics of NBA team compositions. As the playoffs progress, the insights shared by the hosts offer valuable perspectives for fans seeking to understand the complexities of high-stakes basketball.

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[Shannon]

The volume.

[Sports Analyst]

One of the two most interesting games today and this is the game the Chad's been begging us to talk about. The Lakers lose a close one at Minnesota. They have a 12 point, I mean a 10 point lead going into the fourth quarter. But Ant man went berserk he scored 16 of his game high 43 points as they outscored the Lakers 32 to 13. Lakers 32 to 19. Excuse me. The Lakers shot just five of 18 in the fourth, including three or nine in the last five minutes. LeBron legs. I text Ash this and I text this early. I said it looks like JJ is going to roll with these guys the entire second half. I say you talk about 46 minutes for LeBron on 40 year old legs. You talking about Luka, 45 and a half minutes. You talking about Rui and Doe and Ar. I say that's a lot of, that's a lot of wear and tear. I say it's going to be very, very interesting if this game come down to the last three, four, five minutes. It's going to be very interesting if the Lakers can hold up. And you see LeBron took two shots in the fourth quarter. He had zero points in the fourth quarter. He's exhausted. I think it's the first time in what, 20 years that the nobody subbed for the Lakers in the second half of a ball game. Everybody that started the game played 24 minutes of a possible 24 minutes. And now I'm concerned because I don't know how the Lakers play better. You got 23 points on nine or 16 shooting from Rui, five or 10, 23 points. You got LeBron 27 points, 15, 18 from the free throw line. He had 27, 12, eight, three steals, three blocks. Okay, you got Luka played, gave you 38, seven or seven from the free throw line. He only had one rebound, two assists. They turned him into a score. You can live with that. I just don't want him to get 38 and 12 an assist total. You got AR. He scored. He only scored 17, but he got all of those in the second half. The bench gave us six points and I think that was the difference in the ball game because their bench gave you 20 points. Nas Reed gave you 12 points, DiVincenzo gave you eight points and Nikhil Alexander Walker gave you six, five points. But it was Ant man and Drew Randall that really was. And Jane Daniels been. McDaniel's been playing unbelievable. I don't know where this guy came from, but he's been sensational in the postseason where Ant man did what a superstar supposed to do. GP and take.

[Shannon]

Well, Shannon, Shannon Daniels is a, is a, is a defensive stopper. He plays like that, but he gives you more. I'm a compare Daniels to my son. They give you everything they have to do to Win basketball games, not just defense. When they start scoring and they do special stuff, their team is going to win. We're going to go back to that. Chad, listen what I'm saying. We're going to go back to what challenges take. Why do you think Minnesota won? First of all, the Lakers can't play defense. They have no defense at all.

[Sports Analyst]

You feel me?

[Shannon]

That's just a bad thing.

[Sports Analyst]

And they need a big to protect the rim. Once they get beaten, they don't have that.

[Shannon]

Absolutely. So now what happened was is that ant man got got busy. So let me tell you about this. What should you do about a guy who gets hot double get the ball out of his hand and make somebody else be special. But what do you know what that did? Minnesota got other people to come off the bench and be special and make shots. See, that's a difference. I was at my son's game them last night and they were beating up Curry for a long time. I kept saying get him off the ball, stop having him be on the ball so they can double him every time. And then they finally listen and start getting him at the bottom and he started coming off picks. But when they started doubling him and all of a sudden who started getting busy? My son and other people. And they beat him. You know what I'm saying? You have to have a cast to support you. That's what the game is about. It ain't about superstars now when these playoffs come, it ain't about superstars. It's about who gonna support my superstar to get me to win basketball games. And the teams who are winning now are a cast.

[Sports Analyst]

That supporting cast.

[Shannon]

They're superstars. So when a superstars get to start going. Reason why Edwards got busy today, because he was one on one with everybody and ain't nobody gonna stop him. One on one. If you start doubling on him and doubling him and everybody else and not making shots, you're not gonna win games. It's not gonna happen. So when you start doing that, what's gonna do if my superstar passing play, I'm passing the ball and my other supporters are making buckets, then what? What the coach is gonna start saying, man, don't leave him, don't leave him. We can't do it. But when your superstar go one on one is hard to guard a superstar one on one. Ain't nobody gonna guard nobody and stop nobody one on one. Is it like with you, Chad and with you, Shannon and they got single coverage on y'all? I mean, y'all getting y that that. That. Yeah. That is like fish grease, y'all. That. I mean, like, going out there and picking something. Boy, I'm kill y'all. Every time I see y'all one on one. I'm gonna get everything on y'all. So then y'all gotta get done. Then who we gonna go to next? We're gonna go to, man, and we're gonna start killing them. That's how the game goes. And if you don't have that supporting pass, it's not gonna work. It's not gonna work in this league right now because these dudes are too athletic, and they can get it. So dads who are winning games now because they're athletic and they not make. They make his shots, and our superstars don't have to work as hard as they do.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[GP]

Hey, and GP When I looked at the next game, obviously watching the Lakers play with. With Luca having a good game and then doing what he did, LeBron doing what he did early in the game, and they had contributions from everybody else. Obviously, the bench didn't score and support the top. The big. Their big three, as. As you so want to call it, in a sense. But the wolves having 20 off the bench and then having goddamn ant man go crazy tonight with 43, you know, nine and six, you know, that's what he's supposed to do. And you can't say or have a reason. We.

[Shannon]

We.

[GP]

We know LeBron is 40, you know, we understand that he's still playing the game. Especially in a time like this, it ain't no time to come here. It ain't nothing. You can't come out. You got to play the whole game, but you have to contribute more in that time in crunch time, in order for your team to win. You got to. Legs tired, legs feeling good. It don't matter. That's just what it is.

[Shannon]

They don't do nothing anyway. They don't practice. They don't do nothing. They ain't tired. You know what I'm saying? And what I tell y'all is, he might be 40, but he's still doing what he do in his league. When you do what you do in this league and don't get no support and everybody keep focusing on you and beating you down, you're gonna get tight.

[Sports Analyst]

Yes.

[Shannon]

You ain't got no support from nobody who making shots that free me up, then that's gonna happen. Both of them got 38, 27, whatever they want to. But at the end, if ain't nobody doing Nothing But Us 2, all we gotta do is focus on YouTube and then what's going to happen? You two ain't. My other people ain't doing no cast. You see, Minnesota came off the bench and had support. So when it got time for the crucial time, you can't go and double Edwards. Because I'm worried about these dudes off the bench.

[Sports Analyst]

Worried about Junior Randall, worried about Nas Reed, I'm worried about McDaniels, I'm worried about even Kenzo.

[Shannon]

And Reed made a big three at the end. Three minutes, two of them. You right, and busted them. So now am I worried about him? Yes, I'm worried about him. So I can't go and say, no, I ain't gonna try to guard him because he gonna make sense. So that's freed up Everybody. And with LeBron and Luca, you can't say that it ain't gonna work like that. We to just go and double them and hope that when they go to this other player, he gonna miss shots. And what did the Lakers do? They miss shots.

[Sports Analyst]

LeBron had several points in the first. In the fourth quarter, Luca had one rebound, two assists. It's his fewest rebounds and assists ever in a playoff game. The bench Naz Reed had nas, Reed had 12, DiVincenzo had six. Lakers, excuse me, DiVincenzo had eight and the Lakers had six. And so it seems to me that they were like, you know what? We're content. We're gonna make you. We'll let you score, but what we're not gonna do is let you get 38 and 8 assists. 38 and 10 assists. Because now the others are involved. And so. And that played right into their hands. You see, and you look at Ant man, what did Ant man have today? Ant man. Ant man had 43 and six assists. You see, he got others involved, right? If you see assist people like, well, why he didn't have no assist? Well, I would have had a. I would have had a double digits in a sense, if God could have made shots. Luca smoked two layups. LeBron smoked the layup. Austin Reeves smoked the layup. When you playing a team like this, you have to cash in on every opportunity, every opportunity.

[Shannon]

And then Chad and Shannon, let's make another case for this. Look at the Denver game yesterday against the Clippers. You see the joker, he was killing, right? They all tried to go and go at him on the last second. 99, 99. He go and take a fade away.

[Sports Analyst]

3.

[Shannon]

They worried about him. Everybody worried about him. And then the air ball. And who make the final dunk to win the game.

[Sports Analyst]

Aaron Gordon.

[Shannon]

Okay, so that's what I'm trying to tell y'all. Y'all tell you we gotta understand that other role players gotta be that type of guy, man, with this, with this Denver stuff, that's what it is. And he wind up with what, 30 something, 20 something rebounds to eight or nine assist.

[Sports Analyst]

Man 2 yeah, he had like 36, 36, 21 and eight.

[Shannon]

Yeah. And that's what it's all about. Your role players have to be with you in this day of era, in this basketball game to win basketball game.

[Sports Analyst]

Check this stat out. Check GP. Check this stat out. Nas Reed in the fourth quarter of this series has 26 points. He's nine of ten from the field goal in field goal. He's six of six from three in clutch the last five minutes of the ball game. Oo the game with is within five points. That's what they consider clutch time. He's six or six from the three in clutch situation. He's nine of ten for the floor with 26 points. I mean, you talk, you talk about Jordan, you talk about Kobe, whomever, they've never been like this. You talk about a guy that's missed one shot, he's perfect from the three.

[Shannon]

And that's crazy. We're talking about Oto here, man. These type of dudes you have to have on your team. You remember, you remember the Lakers had Robert Hori who did the same thing. They date, you know what I'm saying?

[Sports Analyst]

When you have big shot at the big shot box, big shot at the.

[Shannon]

Big shot at the big shot, you want a guy. And I tell people, as I coach now in junior college, I said, you want to be on the flow with six minutes, you the closer, you're the closer. I want you to make big shots. But with him and Reed, what was he last year? 6 Man of the year. Yep. You feel what I'm saying? He coming in and making these big time shots and that's what you want from these dudes. And that's where you gonna win championships. That's only way you gonna win championships in this NBA.

[GP]

Okay, well listen, now that we got, we got all that good stuff out the way, let's talk about the meat and potatoes of this series and what's going on right now. The lakers are down 3:1 and GP, GP, you could probably attest to this and have a better answer, but I'm sure, Unc, you probably know as well, being that your knowledge and, and, and and acumen of the game of basketball Is good. Do you see any scenario at all, any type of magical situation?

[Sports Analyst]

They go in seven o'clock, come back, G.P. i see G.P. shaking his head. They going seven.

[GP]

Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. So you still feel there's a possibility that the lake can come back down?

[Shannon]

Shannon, stop it. Me and you can bet a dinner on this. That.

[Sports Analyst]

Run it. I run it.

[Shannon]

Run it anywhere you want to go, man. I'm with that. No way they gonna beat them three in a row. Ain't no way.

[Sports Analyst]

Seven games.

[Shannon]

No, they not.

[Sports Analyst]

Guess what? We got to see. The problem that. The problem that JJ ran into is that LeBron had just played 38, 40 minutes a night ago. And then you follow that up. Now, the best thing about this, they don't play again till Wednesday. So LeBron get an extra day. Luka get an extra day. We got this. We gonna go back to Minnesota. We gonna get that.

[GP]

So, so are we. Are we saying the fact that. That they're losing is because they're late?

[Sports Analyst]

No, no, no. I'm saying. No, no, no, no. 15. But I'm saying. Oo. When you play, just imagine how your legs feel. Just imagine if you had to play a football game on Monday and then you had to play another one on Wednesday. Not Thursday, Monday. Wednesday.

[Shannon]

Yeah, I mean, good.

[GP]

I'm.

[Sports Analyst]

You would at 40 playing wide receiver.

[Shannon]

Yeah, I think.

[Sports Analyst]

I think he wouldn't.

[Shannon]

Yeah, yeah, I'd be good. Hold on. We Talk about at 40 is different, though. Our mentality is different than that, though.

[Sports Analyst]

You.

[Shannon]

You can't. Competitive kids to us. You know what I'm saying? Our mentality.

[Sports Analyst]

You can have a mentality all you want to. That body know the mind willing. The body just ain't able to get up and down.

[Shannon]

I'm gonna go and get her. I'm gonna go and get a Jacuzzi. I'm gonna kick it. I'm gonna get my legs right. I ain't going to practice.

[Sports Analyst]

I ain't doing none of that.

[Shannon]

I'm gonna go, I'm gonna come back and give you 50, I'm telling you right now. And first of all, these dudes got a lot. But you got to understand, they lost in la. They lost in la, Minnesota and defended home. It's going to be hard for you to beat them. They going to go to la, Minnesota, Louisiana. Minnesota ain't going to lose at home.

[Sports Analyst]

We got them. Actually, we supposed to have took two of them. We supposed to have took both of them. Get home. We got this, gp. We got that dinner bet.

[Shannon]

Okay, I got you. Hold on.

[GP]

Well, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.

[Shannon]

When y'all.

[GP]

When y'all have. Yes, right. When y'all have a bet and you talk about the dinner bet, is there a certain amount, Is there a certain response you kind of can't go to?

[Chad]

How does that work?

[Shannon]

You want to go, man?

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah, yeah, we got.

[Shannon]

Do you. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm confident on three 1. They ain't coming back like that. They hold their own mentality. Messed up.

[Sports Analyst]

Hey, you. Now you know if anybody know how to come back from a 3:1 deficit. GP.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst]

Are you with me?

[Shannon]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, look at him. Oh, yeah. But look what I'm telling you. I get it, but that ain't gonna happen. That ain't gonna happen. Look it, Shannon, this ain't no mentality of us. I'm gonna tell you one time, these dudes ain't cut like that, man. I don't care what you're saying. Matter of fact. Ain't cut like us. Yeah, they ain't cut like, man. I'mma go, man. We gonna bust them for three dudes. Want to go on vacation, man. You know what I'm saying?

[Chad]

Where you going?

[Shannon]

I'm trying here. Holidays, man. Look here. Dang.

[GP]

Hey, man, I want to make it sad. I want to make it sad. Bet.

[Sports Analyst]

You can't make no bet.

[GP]

Oh, I'm saying. I'm saying.

[Sports Analyst]

I'm.

[Shannon]

Cuz Cass say you can't make a bet because you already owe something. What you already owe.

[GP]

Listen, listen, listen, listen.

[Shannon]

I'm doing.

[GP]

I'm doing right by him. I owing 5200 as long as I 15%.

[Shannon]

Oh, okay, wait.

[GP]

You not the bank.

[Sports Analyst]

You can't ask your question. Have you ever gone to the bank and borrowed money without paying interest on the money?

[Shannon]

Yeah, Yeah.

[GP]

I ain't never borrowed nobody from the bank.

[Shannon]

We ghetto. You can't. You can't do it like, man, we in the mafia.

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon]

Let that go, man. Let that go, man. Get that 5200 and it's ride with it.

[Sports Analyst]

Hey, GP. I gotta put a little juice on it. Yeah, I know.

[Shannon]

Get you a bottle or something. Something. You don't understand me and get you a dope or something, man, and let that go.

[GP]

I mean, listen, I'm.

[Shannon]

I'm.

[GP]

Hey, gp. I'm just trying to give him.

[Shannon]

I'm giving.

[GP]

I'm trying to give him a chance.

[Sports Analyst]

That.

[Shannon]

Just play.

[Sports Analyst]

What? Told me doubling.

[Shannon]

Nothing. Said I gotta go. Shout it, mate. Just give me 52 yeah, yeah. I can't let.

[GP]

I can't double.

[Sports Analyst]

How you gonna double?

[Shannon]

He want to.

[Sports Analyst]

He want to double up my money.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Sports Analyst]

Hey, bank. Hey, bank. I know I owe you. I know I owe you a couple hundred thousand, but they've been another. Ain't double or nothing. Loan me another couple hundred thousand.

[GP]

I'm just saying. Listen, I'm giving opportunity. I'm gonna give you opportunity to double your money. So when I do pay you, you have more than what you was gonna get.

[Sports Analyst]

I hadn't got what I was supposed to be gotten. At the end of the season, the likelihood of me getting that double ain't happening either.

[GP]

No. I told you, when I see you, I'm gonna pay you. That's all.

[Sports Analyst]

5,980. You owe me. 59.80. Plus that 15%.

[Shannon]

Oh, 59. It went from 52 to 59. Yep. I only. Hey.

[GP]

In this economy.

[Sports Analyst]

Thank you. I need my money in this economy. LeBron said tired legs was not the cause of the misses. J.J. reddick became the first coach to play five players for an entire half in the playoffs. J.J. said on his starters, Playing the entire second half, it wasn't planned, but we just made the decision at halftime. Magic Johnson questioned the strategy. I'm just sick to my stomach that the Lakers lost this game after being in control most of the second half. I don't know if it's smart to play lebron and Luca the entire second half after only having one day rest between game three and four. We needed lebron to take over in the fourth quarter and he couldn't. He scored zero points in the fourth. I agree. I agree. The refs missed a trip. Luca got tripped. I mean, that was a blatant trip. He doesn't fall on his own. We. We watched it. He gets tripped. So we should have been at the free throw line. Yes. Luca missed a smoked the layup. That would have put him up seven. They come down here to three. So now all of a sudden been up seven. You're only up two.

[Shannon]

Two.

[Ryan]

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[Shannon]

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[Sports Analyst]

You see, you see how momentum swing. LeBron missed the layup. They come out of time out. Had a great curl set. Smoked that layup AR smoked the layup. It's just look I think it was lebron said like he don't want to make excuses but GP when you ask that man to do the man had he let he had more the most rebounds of anybody that touched the court today. He had the most assist of anybody that touched the court today. He had the most blocked shots, he had the most steal. Well nah, DiVincenzo had the most deal but you talk about a 40 year old been led in rebounds, led in block shots, led in assists. You're asking a think about what you're asking a 40 year old, a 40 year old what you're asking him to do.

[Shannon]

And Shannon I'm a comment on that. We own a freak of a nature type of dude. I get it what you're saying about we asked he's different. He's a lot different. I don't agree with him not getting no rest in the second half. I think you resting for two or three, four minutes each quarter resting for like two or three minutes and bring him back and do the same thing. But what I do with jj, I'm I'm going to go to JJ Reddick's defense he was saying I can't lose this game. I'mma go with my player who I think going to give me something. You know what I'm saying? He shouldn't have did that, you know and timeouts don't cut it. Sometimes it don't work. I would have gave him three to four minutes or five minutes every quarter. I would have did five minutes and then still controlled it. I get what Magic is saying, you know what I'm saying? Give him his legs. I would have gave him third quarter, I would have said him five, six minutes and then played him the whole fourth quarter, you know what I'm saying? That's what I would have did. It was a bad decision on his behalf, but I thinking what JJ is thinking as the first year, he needed that.

[Sports Analyst]

He got to get this game.

[Shannon]

I got to get this. And. And it didn't work out for him. Now what? He's going to go back, he's going to read, evaluate everything. He's going to give him rest because they need this win in LA on Wednesday, and I think they gonna get the win on LA on Wednesday.

[Sports Analyst]

Oh, they gonna get it.

[Shannon]

They're gonna get it. But I'm just saying. Oh, so should. He should have evaluated that a little bit different. I don't think it's legs and all that. I think he got tired and they went away from everything that they did. To me, you go put LeBron on the block, see if they gonna double him, let him guard one on one and go out, you know, and if you watch the game, is that too high? Watch Luka, watch LeBron. I focus on all of y'all, put him on the block, let them come down there and double, you know what I'm saying, and do things like that. But they don't play that way. Y'all know Shannon and Chad, this game ain't like us. If I see you and Chad on a disadvantage, man, I'm gonna run. Y'all play every game.

[GP]

Until they stop it, until you stop, until they stop it.

[Shannon]

And with me, with LeBron being 6, 8, 2, 6, I'm gonna put you on the block. I'm not gonna put you up top where everybody can focus in on you and we can stuck in, right? Put you on the block. And if you gotta come down with me, let me kick it to somebody, hit a jumper, then you gonna start being irrelevant that way. And they didn't play that game.

[Sports Analyst]

I knew LeBron was gonna play a ton of minutes today because he normally takes his break at about 6 minutes, 6:30. He didn't take his break today until about 4 minutes. He got 2 minutes, and then he was right back in the game, and he didn't come out again. So I knew it was going to be One of those. And I texted Ash. I said, ash, first of all, I knew they were in trouble. GP LeBron is going off, Luca is going off. And they got a four point lead. Let that sink in. Now. All my artillery and I only got a four point lead and these guys are going haywire in the first half. So that's not good. Because if normally when guys going off, that's a 10, that's a 12, 14 point lead. You got both of your big guns and Minnesota's right there, so they gotta feel good. And as a matter of fact, they had a three point lead at the half. They're like, hold on. LeBron had 22, Luka got 21. That's 43 right there. And we still got the lead. Are we good? It's the same thing with the Lakers when they lost to the Nuggets. When LeBron went crazy in the first half, he had like 30, 32 points. GP, you remember that game?

[Shannon]

Yep.

[Sports Analyst]

In the first half they like, oh, he done, he done spinning wand. He blew and glowed. We got this. He ended up, he had to get 32 at the half. He ended up having 40 for the game because he exerted so much and it wasn't enough to get the separation that he needed. Luke and LeBron exerted so much. LeBron. I think LeBron had five points in the third quarter, none in the fourth quarter, but they did a great job of taxing them. And because I think a lot of this. GP Because LeBron is so tired, they like, he's not even a threat when he's on the block. Because that's normally Julius Randle. Julius Randall takes a lot out of you because he's a big body guy. He wants to bang on you. He's going to bang you when you playing defense on him. He's going to bang on you when you're playing defense on him. He's going to bang on you. So it's just bang, bang, bang. And after a while, that takes that. That zaps the leg.

[Shannon]

But then, but then, Shannon, let me tell you this, even doing that, why'd I get him in five trouble? Let him bang bang me. Now. I'd go at him, spin on him, do the things you do. But that means you gotta work the game to work the right way. Y'all remember when I played, give me the ball on the block, I want you to bang on me. Cause I'm gonna spin on you and I'm gonna kill you every day. You know what I mean? So you gotta get to that level where LeBron has to learn, don't bang, bang, bang. Work with him. Get Randall out the game. Because what's the next person that's going to come in that game on Minnesota's bench that can handle me? Not too many people. Not too many people. So that's. That's being coached and being smart. That's why I say nowadays, IQ ain't in this game.

[Sports Analyst]

It's all athleticism.

[Shannon]

It's athletic ability. This ain't no IQ game right now. I'm telling everybody, ain't too many guys in here got IQs like that. You know what I'm saying? LeBron don't have to bang that boy. If he hit me one time on my back, spin on him, get a file. Get him in file trouble, then what's gonna happen?

[Sports Analyst]

You're gonna suck, right?

[Chad]

You don't suck.

[Shannon]

And ain't nobody gonna come up that bench that gonna handle LeBron, who muscle them and bullying them. But when you get a guy who's checked out and he tired. Yeah. Let's say again, Shannon, let's think about the last play of the game, what LeBron did. He turned the ball over again. He turned.

[Sports Analyst]

Why can't they get the ball inbounds? Because we've seen Reed, we've seen so many times, guys, does anybody know how to hard cut? Does anybody know how to set a back pitch?

[Shannon]

But let me tell you this, Shannon. What about just putting your forearm on the motherfucker and just get off and don't fall down that way. Why you don't do that? Why you don't do that? And then if they try to double me, what are you going to do? I'm going to get the ball to the next. Post it up. I'm telling you once again, I q. I do in this game. And then if you want to get me the ball, I'm going to get the ball. Especially if we can go on the back court, I'm going to hold you off, push you off, and you throw that ball out there, and I'm going to go get it. I'mma go get it. Don't try to make none of them heroic passes that you see, man. These dudes is not having IQs like that. They don't have IQs like that. Hey, hold on.

[GP]

But both of y'all said the same thing, right? You, you and Unk got a friendly dinner. You say Lakers gonna lose. Well, both of you came. Came to. Came to the party, and both said, hell, the Lakers might win, are gonna win Wednesday. You Said they're gonna win the game Wednesday. GP So if they could win the game Wednesday, if they could win one, they could win two.

[Shannon]

But I don't think that. But you're going to exert, Chad, you're going to insert a lot. Then you on home against a team that's in Minnesota that plays well at home. They play well at home. I get it. You exert all your time. But think about the. Really, the odds of everything. Came back from a 31 series deficit and win as many games as they win. They're not going to win three in a row. I'm just not going to say that. I can't do it. You done one. You lost two games in Minnesota. You lost one game at home. And you lost the first game, Chad. At home. Yeah. So what do you think now? And what have Shannon saying? Shannon say they're getting old. Legs are tired, they got two days off.

[Sports Analyst]

What you gonna do?

[Shannon]

How you gonna work that out? All right, is your mindset to. I'm gonna try to win this, Chad. I'm gonna ask you again. Do you think they mindset is saying that we're gonna come back and win three in a row? They not doing that. They talking about going home. They talking about going to Cancun. You know what I'm saying? And we'll work with it next year. You feel what I'm saying? I'm just saying it's gonna be hard for the Lakers to win three in a row against this young hog team that Shannon has just told you. People are coming off the bench doing what they do. You feel what I'm saying? And doing what they do.

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

We thinking about the NBA. NBA don't want it to be like Oklahoma City go full blank. They trying to get tv. Tv.

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah.

[Chad]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

Y'all, y'all.

[Sports Analyst]

Y'all cutting to the church's money.

[Shannon]

Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Now, I ain't gonna keep letting you just. Then I'm just gonna do whatever. I'm gonna call corns that I have to call Whatever, whatever. And you gotta think about it, though, Chad. Who you think is more talented? What team you think was more talented, Chad? Minnesota. Lakers.

[Chad]

Minnesota.

[Shannon]

Minnesota. They're not gonna do that, man. And people coming off the bench doing what they do. Shannon just told you. Yeah. Their bench is being more productive than the Lakers bench. Who gonna be the people that support that superstar cats? I think Minnesota got that.

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah, I agree.

[Shannon]

Damn.

[Sports Analyst]

I agree. And that's the thing. I mean, you, you. They were so close they had a 10 point lead. I'm not so sure what a 10 point lead. I think I try to get, I think I try to get LeBron. Two minutes to start the fourth. We gotta lead.

[Shannon]

Well, Chad, I say like this, like they. With the, with the warriors subbing three minutes. Bring him in, sub him at seven. He got five minutes on the clock then back in the fourth. Right. Let him play the whole fourth quarter. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. That's how you gotta do it. But I just don't think that chemistry is right. When you got two guys on both sides. I saw on the basketball and you watching them play basketball, that's not a good deal for me. It's just like what we did when we played basketball. We put it in the post and let our big man dominate. If you don't hit him, he gonna score every time. But if you start scoring, we gonna doubling. And what do our big man do? Kick it. And we get easy buckets and we rotate. Rotate and make people rotate. That ain't the game. Nowadays we just talking about shooting threes one on one, ISO trying to do what we do right. And it don't work if you don't have that cast. That's making them big time shots, which Minnesota did today. Yes, they big time shots. And it don't work. It won't work. It just won't work.

[Sports Analyst]

They definitely. Lakers definitely got their work cut out for them. They're going to have to play, hopefully. I don't know if you can get another 25 point game out of Rui Hachimura. Rui was sensational today. This is by far his best game in the playoffs and he played extremely well. I don't know if you're going to be able to get. Cause he was 5, 10, he was 9 of 16, played 41 minutes, gave me 23 points. LeBron was 2712, 8, 3 3. Austin Reeves, he came in and he didn't play. He was terrible. He got in foul trouble. He was terrible in the first half. 17, 17, 7 and 4. I can live with that. I like having something spread out, but Julius Randle started that game off. He was extremely aggressive and that's his game. He's an aggressive player. He's going to try to put the ball on the floor, he's going to put pressure, he's going to attack the rim. Jaden McDaniels didn't start off strong, but down the stretch he made all the hustle plays. He got the and 1. He made a big time 3. Ant man was Ant man, but it was Nas reed and donde DiVincenzo. DiVincenzo getting a rebound, knocking down a three. You get Nas Reed knocking down two big threes, DiVincenzo getting an and one. And I thought I was like, you know what? Because DiVincenzo got one. And LeBron Scott is like, oh, the old man still got so many. Still got some juice in the tank. GP yeah, but it was. I just think the thing is, yeah, they were tired. But Ant man, he said he's dreamed his whole. He's dreamt his whole life of these moments. And you can tell 12 of 23, 5 of 10 from the three point line, 14 of 17, nine rebounds, six assists, and he only had one turnover.

[Shannon]

Well, Chad and Shannon, he told you did something when he was in the, when he was in the backs, when he started shooting threes, playing his Steph Curry and he said, man, I was in them games shooting them threes. What does he came back and did. He said, I'm gonna shoot more threes this year. And look at his percentage. Come on, the threes. His conf. His way here. When you give a player like that that type of ability to do that and become that type of player, put him on Olympic team, give him that type of ability to become a super star, a real superstar. Yeah. And he make his shots and he get confident. It's hard to stop a basketball player like that. And he has proven it. He has proven it that he is the primary player to be that NBA player and take over this league. And that's what he's doing every day after them, after them games. And he's doing his post credit. All he doing is smiling. Cause he know it's easy. It's easy for him. It's easy. And that's what he's doing. And he's showing you that he can put this team on his back. They thought when they got rid of Cat, a Cat that it was gonna be all over. No, that boy took his, took this game to another level and did what he do. And it is six. They didn't succeed beating the third seat. That's what these games is. That's why I tell everybody, stop talking about these seeds and all that. These 82 games, that is, that is crap to me. None of that. You, you gotta go play in these playoffs and get out. And they showing the Lakers that I don't care what seed you are, we gonna go get at you. And they get out.

[Sports Analyst]

The thing is that when you look at it, GP Is that because he can shoot the three, you gotta hug up on him. And now he can go by you. You see what he's going by. He's gonna kick, or he's going all the way to the rim. So it's like, okay, I'mma play off him. Hand down, man down, Mark Jackson. And so now he's got that three ball in his bag. He always had the ability to go around you and finish over top of you. So how do I defend him? If I give him too much airspace, he gonna rise up and shoot the. He gonna raise up and shoot the three. If I. If I hug up on him to take away the three, he gonna go by me and finish on top of me. So, I mean, you're at his mercy.

[Shannon]

And you.

[Sports Analyst]

Same thing with Steph Curry. Steph Curry used to be he settled for the three. Now you see Steph put the ball on the floor and get to his float game.

[Shannon]

Yeah. And then, Shannon, you think about that. When I was at the game last night, what Houston tried to do to Steph, Curry was doubling every time. I kept screaming, I said, get him off the ball. Don't let him dump it. Let him come off the baseline and do like Reggie Miller or Riff Hamilton. And they. They had his mercy. Soon as they catch and shoot that, Houston fell apart. They fell apart. But what did the warriors do? They had other people who made shots and did things that they do because once. And then what Curry did, he started being one on one, and then he started being curved. He liked to. He liked PlayStation.

[Sports Analyst]

He started cooking everything.

[Shannon]

You see, it's PlayStation, man. And he start cooking, and he start hitting shots, and then they start doing it, and he started making a right pass. And then they start finishing. They start saying, man, what can I do? And when they start finishing, he start going one on one. And it ain't nobody can guard nobody like that with no talent like that. One on one. No way. No way.

[Sports Analyst]

Jalen Green spoke about the exchange between him and Draymond at the end of the game, when Draymond told Jalen Green, go paint your nails. Jalen said, just talking, he can't really do much anything else. Slow talking is his only way. Hey, gp Did Jones. Hey, did.

[Shannon]

Hi.

[Sports Analyst]

Because now, guy. I mean, now they throw a check on you. You guys used to be at all each other. Face spit flying everywhere. Now you say one thing. Oh, yeah, you look at the guy.

[Shannon]

This is. This is basketball, man. Let these dudes play, man. Let them talk. Crazy, man. I'm with It. I was right there when I seen all of that and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, these dudes ain't really gonna tell y'all. Shannon, Chad, get outside, man. Go outside to the restaurant and see them one on one. That ain't gonna get out of here, man. That ain't happening. You know what I'm saying? Y'all can talk all that, man, and be whatever. Just. Just prove it on the basketball court. Yeah, to me. Put it on the floor. You will, you won't. Don't get mad at what somebody else say. You know what I'm saying?

[Sports Analyst]

Stop him from doing it, and he won't say it no more.

[Shannon]

Yeah, it is. That's what I did. That's why I talk crack trash. I can back it up if you say something to me. I'm gonna give you a phone, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna be here, 40, 10, eight, whatever. And then I'm gonna be like, yeah, we won. What's happening? Stop all that wah, wah, wah, man. Cause ain't none of them tough like that. Them dudes ain't no gangsters, man. Ain't nobody shot no Pistols and did all that day in their life, man. Them dudes ain't even on that. You know what I'm saying? Stop being like you, you.

[Sports Analyst]

You.

[Shannon]

You really bad. You ain't really bad, man. Cause if we get you one on one somewhere, man, we knuckle up. Them dudes ain't gonna be like that. Ain't gonna be like that, man. Don't mean just gone and prove it on the flow, man, and gone about your business, you know what I'm saying? It is what it is, you know? And it. It was legit. It wasn't like if somebody say, man, I was with your wife last night. Yeah, I was with yours last night, too. That's why I wasn't home. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, you was with her. Go be with her. You feel what I'm saying? Cause I was with last night, too. And while you was thinking about me, you feel what I'm saying? So I'm with it, man. I ain't on that, man. Yeah, man, I ain't with that, man. Go ahead and prove it on the basketball court, man. And that's what I'm talking about. Prove it to prove it tomorrow. If you mad, go get it. Go get it. You feel me? So that's all I got to say about that. Go get.

[Ryan]

When it's tip off time at my house. There are a few things that are must haves on my checklist because you know, I have to have an iconic watch party. First of all, my fellow friends and fans. Check. Got them in the building. My favorite jersey. It's lucky. Yes. Check. I'm wearing it right now. An iconic drink that's a fan favorite. Check. Hypnotic can turn any cocktail into an iconic creation. With its game changing color and tropical flavor, Hypnotic should be in everyone's starting five. For me, I consider hypnotic like the point guard of my game day roster. Because not only is it versatile, like having it on the rocks or as a base for cocktails, it also finishes smooth. Qualities every point guard must have. And just like the banners in my stadium, letting people know that we take championships seriously. Having Hypnotic at my watch parties lets people know that I also take quality seriously since it's crafted with superior ingredients for a championship level drinking experience. So you're saying I know hypnotic is great, but describe it. What's the flavor? What's going on here? Well, it's got a unique mix of premium vodka, tropical fruit juices and a hint of cognac. Again, to put it in basketball terms, this is balancing out my roster. We call this balance in the business and it's a hit at watch parties. The hypnotic comes out. We're adding a splash of color and flavor to every buzzer beater moment and everyone has a drink they can enjoy that tastes amazing. And guess what? You can find Hypnotic nationwide at your local liquor store or favorite bar. It's probably easier to get than you know those courtside seats which are available. But look, hypnotic is available everywhere. So the next time you need a break from the action with a distinctive timeout, look no further. Grab a bottle of Hypnotic and make your next basketball watch party iconic. Enjoy the vibrant taste with friends and turn every game into a memorable celebration. Hypnotic where every sip is a slam dunk. Hypnotic liquor Bardstown, Kentucky 17 Alcohol by volume Hypnotic reminds you to think wisely. Drink wisely.

[Shannon]

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[Sports Analyst]

Thunder Sweep the Grizzlies SGA had 38 points and finally found his rhythm. In the first three games he was averaging 24 points per game, but it was taking him almost 23 shots to get those. He was shooting 35% when he shot almost 52% from the floor. In the regular season, he had made only 6 of 24 threes shooting 25%. But in game four, SGA was SGA 13 to 24, 11 of 13 free throws. They end up sweeping the Memphis Grizzlies and you knew it was over. They had a 27 point lead. Jock goes up, comes down and hey, that lead dis dissipate. They end up losing that game. So you know the, it was just a matter of time before they ended up getting swept. So they passed the first test. You know, they've been the best team in the Western Conference for the entirety of the season. Tuan. So what do you think they're going to play the winner of the Clippers Nugget series? What you like? Can anybody pose a threat to them?

[Chad]

Honestly, I just think they don't have that next guy. You know, I think Shay should be the MVP this year. Um, could have won it last year, I wouldn't have had no problem with it. I think this year he gets it. Um, I don't see it. The second guy I just haven't seen. I mean, we know.

[Sports Analyst]

Excuse me. I do, I do like, I do.

[Chad]

Like him, but I need to see him put to the test. I need to see him put to the test where he had to get 30, 35 on a given night.

[Shannon]

Right?

[Chad]

Um, so until I see that, I, I just don't I don't trust them against a veteran team. I just think you get one of those, the Clippers or Denver, whichever team you face, those guys have been there before. They're going to know how to guard you. The respect levels are a little different. They got the toughness to go in your building to get a win.

[Shannon]

Right.

[Chad]

That's where they're going to be a little different. It's actually not. It's actually kind of bad for them to see either one of those teams because those teams are older teams and the veteran teams that can give them trouble because they know how to play in the playoffs. So neither one of those teams are going to be great matchups for them, but they are a great home team and by having the best record, I always say this. It means something when you take care of business in the season because you get those most important games on the floor. On your floor, you get that five and seven. You get five and seven on your home floor. That's why you take care of business during the season. I never forget that. You always want to have that home court advantage. So that's where they can be. That's where they can have the advantages because they play so great in that building. But it's going to be tough for them. The next rounds are going to be tough for them. Look for them be long series and can anybody else step up and help Shay out? We know Shay's going to have some moments where he gets 35, 40, hell maybe even 45. Who's going to be that next guy that steps up and that's what we that's going to be remaining to be seen.

[GP]

Hey, Torrance, basically probably OKC is similar. Similar to in the same situation based on who they play, whether it be the Nuggets, whether it be the Clippers. They're going to be in a similar situation like the Rockets right now with the Warriors.

[Chad]

Yeah, just not saying that they're young. I mean, the OKC guys have been together a while. I just think, and you guys know this, and Shane goes back to what you did to start the show off. When you start naming stars, you don't even name Shay. You didn't name nobody else off OKC. That's a team that won 60 games this year. Think about it. You didn't name two, three guys off OKC. I just don't think. And nothing wrong with that. They have great complimentary guys. They got great role players. I just don't see that next superstar, a guy that can help you win a game, who's going to go win the game. Besides Shay, I want to see that. Let's see the next guy step up and get 30, 35. Let's see Shay have 10 points, a bad night, foul trouble. He gonna get it done. Who's going to be that next guy that steps up for them? So that remains to be seen. That's, that's, that's where the test is going to come in at.

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah, I, look, I didn't think Memphis was going to do much and when Scottie Pippen Jr. Was your best player on the Memphis Grizzlies and he's, I'm happy for him because he seemingly found in Memphis a home in Memphis and they're giving him opportunity to showcase his ability. But I didn't really, I didn't really expect much from, from Memphis in this series. Even with Job. Maybe they could have got a game.

[Shannon]

Maybe a game.

[Sports Analyst]

Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe a game. I think that that game they had a 27 point lead. I think if Josh stays in, they probably win that one. Maybe they get a game. Maybe, maybe, maybe all things being equal, they get two. But I mean, you look at, you look at them. Holmgren had 11, Jalen waivers had 23, Hartenstein had 11 and 12. Shay was Shay. But what they kill you is that, you know, they're a great defensive team because they got Caruso, they got Isaiah Joe, they got Wallace, they got Lou Dort, they got Chet. That could protect the rim if somebody gets beat off the dribble. They got big, they got two bigs and they don't have a problem playing too big. But then when they go small, they got guys that are, that are scrapping. They can defend. Everybody can defend at an extremely high level. But I agree with you. But the question is, man, you got to be able to have Shay under control because if you don't, he'll end up shooting 15, 20 free throws on you. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

[Chad]

No, I'm saying you have to beat him. I do agree with you. You have to beat him. They're not going to beat themselves. I think with the young group, they got fresh legs, they play lively, they play great at home. So they're going to. And they got a guy. I mean, Shay is a guy, He's a guy that can get you 35, 40, that's what you want in the playoffs. They got all the ingredients to make a deep run. I just worry when you get into a series with better teams that's made double team Shay and May force some other Guys to beat you. Are those other guys ready to deliver at the level that you need to think about some of these teams? I mean, think about the Lakers. You know, they got two guys that.

[Shannon]

Can get it done.

[Chad]

You know, when we talk about okc, we just don't. Williams is great, don't get me wrong. He's a great young player. He made the all star team this year. He's shown that he can be a 20, 25 point scorer. Hell, he's had some 30 point performances. But if you got to have another guy that can go to him. I don't think as you get along, you start playing the better teams, they're not going to let Shay beat them. I just don't think that. I think they're going to double team. They're going to make these other guys have to beat them. If I was playing against them, that's what I would do. But the OKC did the right thing. Everything got to come through there. They have four games on their floor and I think that's what they did a good job. But they play well there. And you guys know this. And you guys been watching enough basketball. The road guys play better at home. So now you got those young guys or young guys on the bench playing at home.

[Sports Analyst]

They play a lot better.

[Chad]

That's what an advantage is for okc.

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah. Cause they had five guys. Even though he went on the road, it was a close game. They have five guys in double figures. Holmgren had 11, Jalen Williams had 23, Hardenstein had 11, Shea had 38 and Isaiah Joe had 11, and Wiggins had nine. But. And that's where you hit them other numbers.

[Chad]

Kind of low though, Chad. You see you got knees, you see.

[Shannon]

The other numbers look low.

[Chad]

Now somebody else, you get playing better team. You play, they play right play one of them big dogs is gonna be. It's gonna be a little different.

[Sports Analyst]

But you know what I like? What I like not to cut you off, Ocho. What I like is that Wiggins, excuse me, that Williams and Shay take most of the shot. Because you look at it, they took a combined 45 shots and you had Holmgren with the next most shot at nine. You had a guy took seven, one guy took four. 1, 1, 5, 7, 7, 8. So your big dog's eating. You got. Because, you know, sometimes you get to the playoffs, guys try to make a name for themselves. And they say all of a sudden you supposed to be shooting seven, eight times and all of a sudden you shoot 14, 15. Whoa, whoa, what you doing, coach? Did you see that?

[GP]

Hey, you said Andrew Wiggins.

[Sports Analyst]

No, no, no. Andrew Wiggins is down. Is, is, is in Miami with you.

[GP]

You just said that's a, That's.

[Chad]

Yes, they got. Oh, what, they got another Wiggins on the team? Yeah, young. They got a young Wiggins on the team.

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah. Okay.

[Shannon]

Okay.

[Sports Analyst]

Oh, yeah. I like Wallace, I like Isaiah Joe, but they all can defend. Look at Caruso can defend. Lou Dork can defend. Isaiah Joe can defend. Carson Wallace can defend. Hey, Chet Holmes defend. So no matter. Even Shay was like top three in steals. So no matter who you have on the court, you still have at least three guys that can defend on the ball at all times. And then if Shay is in there, you got somebody that can protect the. Can protect the paint, protect the rim, harden side. I mean, look, he can't protect, but he's a big body. He'll block a shot too. A shot here or there. I like the way they make up. But like you said, we'll see next round. Jon didn't want to be seen on camera on the bench. He saw the broadcast camera on him and put his hand over his face. Juan, you good with this?

[Chad]

Nah, man, I feel bad for my guy. Shane, I remember you had me on when you was back on with Fox and we was talking about him and we passed along discussion with him. Man, I just wish he did. I mean, he's such a terrific talent, man. I just wish he'd lock in on playing basketball, you know what I'm saying? And take what come with it. That's, that's a good, that's the good coverage you want, you want to see the, you want your fans to see you care about your team and that you upset that you're not playing. That's when you want the camera on you. So I just hope he gets it together. I got a lot of respect for him. I want him to be, you know, I think he could be one of the greatest players to play in the game at the point guard position when he's right, healthy and he gives you that scratch of 20, 25 games where he's just playing basketball and not shooting a gun and not doing all those crazy things. He's one of the best players in the league.

[Sports Analyst]

He is.

[Chad]

But you know, we just don't know if he ever going to figure it out. So I get disappointed in him a little bit on that because it's just, I hope this talent doesn't go to waste because, you know, Adam Silva, after a while it's going to be you know, you have to go see the big dog again and you ain't going to like what he going to do to you.

[Sports Analyst]

Do you think he needs to be out of Memphis in order for him to really blossom and fully develop?

[Shannon]

Yep.

[GP]

Right on down here in Miami.

[Shannon]

Yep.

[GP]

Most definitely.

[Shannon]

I'll take care of him, Chad.

[Chad]

He can't come to Miami. Pat Rousey.

[GP]

I got him.

[Sports Analyst]

No, Pat.

[T-Mobile Representative]

Rollin.

[Chad]

Eric Sprunsom ain't playing that, man.

[GP]

That's what I mean. Sometimes that's what you need. Sometimes you need to go somewhere like this where you have two old school type coaches that approach the game of basketball different. They got structure in the middle, they got discipline.

[Sports Analyst]

You right here, right now, and you tried to go all the way over here. You see all that space in between. You got to stop off in the middle, Ocho.

[Chad]

It's going to be tough, man. It's going to be tough. Do I think he needs another place, change the scenery? I don't think he needs a change of scenery. I think they have to really strategically make sure that they keep the right guys around him. And you know how sometimes you bring a veteran on the team that maybe not going to get a lot of minutes that can help you control that locker room. You know how it is to help control some of the out the court activities. I think that's what they need to do. You know, sometimes it's good to pick up a guy like that, maybe a guy that's not going to do much, you know what I mean? Think about that Boston Celtics team. They put Al Horford, a nice veteran on the team with them, who's been on that team for the last three, four years. Been great for them, a good locker room guy. You know what I mean? That's what you need. You need some locker room guys. Sometimes I think that I like them in Memphis because they've been successful. They had someone this he's not like. They're a bad team. They got some pieces there. He doesn't have to be moved, but he's going to have to clean up some things. And I think he can use another superstar. I would like to see. I don't know if they'll be able to.

[Sports Analyst]

Well, Triple J was supposed to be a super superstar. I don't know how. I'm just telling you, they paid him like one.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Chad]

I don't know if he kind of took a couple steps back this year.

[Sports Analyst]

He. Especially this series.

[Chad]

Yeah, they was banged up this year a lot off and on. So I'm not gonna Put too much on this season and the coaching change and all that stuff they went through, you know. You know, that firing of the coach was kind of weird to me. I know y'all covered that a long time ago. Yeah, I think that played a part, too.

[Sports Analyst]

You know, a couple of years ago, the John Morant said, I'm fine in the West, I might have you worry about Boston, but I'm fine in the West. Zero playoff series wins, one head coach fine and two suspensions. Is he fine in the west? One?

[Chad]

Nah, he's not finding West. I mean, for us that love sports and we love to see guys make it and do great. I would love to see him on the Miami Heat, where it's structure, where it's discipline, where basketball has to come first. I would love to see him in that type of situation where they can get some of that junk out of him, but we don't know. I mean, Memphis has to make a major decision on whether or not they want to continue to build around him and kind of go through his antics or you make a move for him while he still has a little value. Because I think he still has some value right now.

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chad]

So I think you can get something for him. And maybe it might be a, you know, Kelly, you guys. Mutual agreement. Hey, I tried it here. I need a new surrounding. I want to, you know, try something different. Maybe you can make a move in that sense. Because they're two totally different teams, with or without, so they have to figure it out. Two totally different teams.

[Shannon]

I like it.

[GP]

I like it. I like it. Hey, Mickey Harrison. I know you're gonna see this, Pat. I know you gonna see this. Spoelstra. Holla at your boy. My number is still the same. We can go get y'all sometime. Sometime this summer. Listen, I put the pieces in place. I make sure he's good away from the court, you know, I got the right kind of people. You know, we don't play no games. We don't do none of that.

[Chad]

Okay?

[GP]

Ain't gonna be no driving. Ain't gonna be no shooting. Ain't gonna be throwing on no great. No. No grenades. Don't do that.

[Chad]

You gonna get a movie. You gonna get him over.

[Shannon]

Hey, give him a drive.

[GP]

No, no, I gotta. I gotta drive it for him.

[Shannon]

I gotta drive.

[GP]

We'll get him everywhere he needs to go.

[Shannon]

We won't.

[GP]

We'll twine. I've been in Miami all my life. I don't even club. I ain't been to club live yet. I just went to Booby trap for the first time two weeks ago. Well, I'm 57 years old so I know if I can get dropped out here to Miami, I could. I can keep them aligned. We got the same goal. I want to see you succeed.

[Shannon]

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