Nightcap NFL Recap - Part 1: Cam Newton calling out Ocho, Noah Lyles backing out against Tyreek Hill, and more!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay – Nightcap NFL Recap - Part 1

Release Date: June 21, 2025

Introduction

In the latest episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe teams up with fellow sports personalities Chad Johnson, Dez Bryant, and Malcolm Gladwell to deliver an insightful and lively NFL recap. The discussion delves into player dynamics, team strategies, and the evolving landscape of college athletics, particularly focusing on notable NFL figures and recent developments in the league.

Key NFL Discussions

1. Player Strength and Bench Press Challenge

   The episode kicks off with Shannon Sharpe boasting about his physical prowess during his NFL career. At [02:36], Sharpe declares, “Pound for pound when I was in the league, I was the second strongest player.” This sparks a playful and competitive exchange among the hosts, highlighting the camaraderie and competitive spirit among former players.

2. Tyreek Hill vs. Ocho Sprint Debate

   A significant portion of the discussion centers around Cam Newton (referred to as Ocho) challenging Tyreek Hill’s sprinting abilities. Sharpe critiques Hill’s physique for a sprinter, stating at [07:20], “Tyreek is still heavy for a Sprinter. Tyreek needs to be somewhere between 150 and 165. Tyreek weighs about 185.” The debate intensifies as the hosts analyze Hill’s performance metrics, comparing his football training to track standards. Sharpe asserts, “Tyreek don’t really train to be a track runner. He’s a football player.”

   This segment features spirited banter and expert analysis on the intersection of athletic training across sports disciplines, emphasizing the importance of sport-specific conditioning.

3. Lamar Jackson and the Ravens’ Strategy

   The conversation shifts to quarterback Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens' strategic moves. At [31:06], Sharpe discusses Jackson’s approach to securing team stability: “What Cam had to say… If you win, Nightcap takes over. If I win, Nightcap is taken over.” The hosts commend Jackson’s leadership and his focus on team cohesion over personal accolades.

   Dez Bryant highlights Jackson's commitment to winning championships over amassing wealth, stating, “He wants to win a championship just for my legacy…,” underscoring the balance between personal and team success in professional sports.

4. Impact of NIL on College Athletes

   Malcolm Gladwell offers a comprehensive analysis of the Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) regulations in college sports. At [33:07], Gladwell explains, “It’s a blessing because kids don’t have to wait that long... But if money is the deciding factor, then yeah, that could stop somebody from wanting to go further.”

   The discussion explores both the positive and negative ramifications of NIL, emphasizing the financial empowerment it offers to athletes from underserved communities while cautioning against potential distractions from athletic development and academic pursuits.

Team and Player Spotlights

1. Cowboys’ Prospects and Team Dynamics

   Dallas Cowboys’ outlook is a hot topic, with Trayvon Diggs confidently predicting a Super Bowl win for the team at [67:35], “The Cowboys will win the Super Bowl this season. This will be our year, Joe.” The hosts analyze the team’s roster improvements, focusing on key players like Dak Prescott and the strategic acquisitions aimed at bolstering both offense and defense.

   Shannon Sharpe emphasizes the necessity of maintaining a strong offensive line to support star quarterback Dak Prescott, who prioritizes team success over personal financial gain.

2. Ravens’ Roster and Performance Enhancements

   The Baltimore Ravens receive extensive coverage, particularly regarding their strengthened defensive lineup. Sharpe praises recent signings and the overall defensive strategy, noting at [63:01], “They re-signed Brown, Devonta Smith, and brought George Pickens in. The onus is all on Dak now.”

   Dez Bryant and Chad Johnson discuss the Ravens' balanced approach, highlighting Lamar Jackson's role in the team's success and the importance of minimizing turnovers, especially during the postseason.

Player Incidents

1. Darren Waller’s Retirement

   The hosts touch upon Darren Waller’s unexpected retirement after being forced into a fullback position, highlighting issues of player satisfaction and role flexibility within teams. Sharpe observes, “[...] he didn't really love the game anymore,” suggesting that Waller’s departure stems from a loss of passion rather than financial or contractual disputes.

2. Adrian Peterson’s Altercation

   An incident involving Adrian Peterson engages the conversation, where Sharpe and Gladwell speculate on the motivations behind a scuffle with a poker player. They analyze the pressures faced by athletes off the field and how personal frustrations can spill into public incidents.

Conclusions and Future Outlook

As the episode wraps up, the hosts express optimism for the upcoming NFL season, emphasizing the importance of team chemistry, strategic player acquisitions, and maintaining focus amidst external pressures. Dez Bryant concludes with a hopeful note: “We just gotta be better than them for one game,” reinforcing the competitive nature that defines the NFL.

Notable Quotes

• Shannon Sharpe [02:36]: “Pound for pound when I was in the league, I was the second strongest player.”
• Shannon Sharpe [07:20]: “Tyreek is still heavy for a Sprinter. Tyreek needs to be somewhere between 150 and 165. Tyreek weighs about 185.”
• Malcolm Gladwell [33:07]: “If you can get that money, that's fine. But if money's the deciding factor, determining factor, then yeah, that could stop somebody from wanting to go further.”
• Trayvon Diggs [67:35]: “The Cowboys will win the Super Bowl this season. This will be our year, Joe.”

Insights and Takeaways

• Athlete Versatility: The discussion between Sharpe and his co-hosts highlights the complexities athletes face when crossing disciplines, such as football players transitioning to track events.

• Team Cohesion vs. Individual Success: Emphasis is placed on the importance of team unity and strategic financial decisions by key players to ensure long-term success and stability.

• NIL’s Dual Impact: While NIL provides significant financial opportunities for college athletes, it also poses challenges in maintaining focus on athletic and academic growth.

Conclusion

This episode of Club Shay Shay offers a deep dive into current NFL dynamics, player motivations, and the evolving intersection of sports and financial opportunities. Shannon Sharpe and his co-hosts provide a balanced perspective, combining humor with expert analysis, making it a valuable listen for NFL enthusiasts seeking comprehensive insights into the league's latest happenings.

Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Malcolm Gladwell]

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[Malcolm Gladwell]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Pound for pound when I was in the league, I was the second strongest player. I was 225 pounds when I with a max of 470 hold on.

[Chad Johnson]

You was the second strongest player on your team, maybe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. In the league. Body weight. Pound for pound, man.

[Dez Bryant]

They are. You did that with no. With no spot, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I no by.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, he probably.

[Dez Bryant]

Listen.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, that. It was probably elevated. They probably had some help.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't no elevator. Hey, you see. Pull it back. You can see what's back there. You can see what's back there.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, you see these on?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I take it down slow and control Ocho by myself.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Hey, look, touching my chest.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That is a bench.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Hey, that's a.

[Chad Johnson]

That's a magic trick. I gotta see that for myself. That's. Hey, that's my A. Joe. That's AI. Joe, that's AI. That ain't real.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Okay?

[Chad Johnson]

AI, that's AI. Hey, chat. That's AI. Don't, don't.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Hey, ain't gonna lie to you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's one thing. The chat. No, the chat.

[Dez Bryant]

No, look, I ain't gonna lie to you. That ain't nothing but some squat. Wait for me.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Why?

[Dez Bryant]

Hey, I ain't saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't gonna sit here and lie to you.

[Dez Bryant]

I ain't gonna try to get under there and lift no 405. Boy, please.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joey, it ain't that hard.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

He just look like that.

[Dez Bryant]

You know, y' all got. You know, football players have different bills from basketball players.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For sure I do.

[Dez Bryant]

Joe.

[Chad Johnson]

Look at me, Joe.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Here you go. Here you go, here you go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Here you go.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Look at my heart.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'll tell you what, Ocho. Give me six weeks.

[Dez Bryant]

What you gonna do in six?

[Chad Johnson]

Would you. Would you.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

You get.

[Chad Johnson]

You said give me six weeks. What you talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want. You want to do, Ocho? You really want to do this?

[Chad Johnson]

You know I work out every day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm saying whatever you want to do.

[Chad Johnson]

I work out every day. I. I ain't played football in 12 years. I work out every day like I'm finna get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How long you think it's been since I played football? Damn. You think I retired yesterday?

[Chad Johnson]

I'm there telling you I work out every day like I'm finna get a phone call. You just never know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just in case I've been retired 22 years.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With double hips.

[Chad Johnson]

What you wanna do? I mean, what you don't want?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, I bet you I wouldn't even put my feet on the floor, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, six weeks. What you wanna do? I can hold my feet up, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you think, Ocho? Ocho, I'll bench you. My feet are like this here.

[Chad Johnson]

I. I could Do. I could do the same thing.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

It's all about.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, listen, Uncas. It's all about core at that point.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you see how wiggling my feet, my feet on the bench with you?

[Chad Johnson]

All right, I wanna. I wanna know what's up with this six week challenge. What you trying to do? Because I love. I love a good competition.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't wasting my time with you, man.

[Chad Johnson]

That's what I thought. Cause you know what's up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't want no smoke with me. You know better. You know that borderline.

[Dez Bryant]

O. Get your blood pressure up. O.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, no, I'm. I'm good, Joe. Joe. I'm good, Joe. But when it come to competing, can't nobody see me in nothing. I don't care who it is or what it is. And Joe, this is what I do.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Joe, man. Oo.

[Dez Bryant]

I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't even really live like that no more. Oo. But for you.

[Dez Bryant]

Man lost his mind over there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, who you? I mean. Oh, you can't even do 3:15.

[Chad Johnson]

How you gonna tell me what I could do? I do it tomorrow before my flight. I do it before my flight tomorrow to show you. Hey, lifting weight ain't nothing to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? Hold on, I'm trying to think. Hold up. Where we go?

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, let me finish. I've been pushing weight since the 80s. I've been living with.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

All right now.

[Chad Johnson]

All right.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, hey, Joe. Joe. I done done it all, Joe. Well, I was a mule for the cartel, Joe. What you talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

This what I do.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, look at this. Look at that. Let me. Let me put it in the camera for you so you can see. Joe, you see that? That's 30 inches. What? That's 30.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

What is it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's half of that.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, man, I don't know about y' all. I need to waste my time. Hey, Joe. I took a nap today, Joe.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Yeah, I tell.

[Chad Johnson]

I took a nap today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You must be had something to drink. You could out bitch me.

[Chad Johnson]

I ain't drink nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But his avion, it's spiked with something.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Guys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tyreek Hill runs a 10, 15 to win the 100 meters at the Last Chance Sprint Series. Joe, take a look at this.

[Chad Johnson]

Who was that? Who was that came in second next to Reek? Well, he was racing.

[Dez Bryant]

Hold on, hold on. Who was that? He was racing against?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He. He was. It's called the 100 meters at the Last Chance Sprint Series.

[Dez Bryant]

That boy got some wheels on him, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, he can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you gotta understand, Tyreek is still heavy for a Sprinter. In order for Tyreek to be like a legit sprinter, Tyreek needs to be somewhere between 150 and 165. Tyreek weighs about 185.

[Chad Johnson]

Tyreek boy.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Tyreek big bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. No allows weigh like 160, 165 tops.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sprinters are. I don't know if you ever seen them, but they especially. They are. They are small.

[Chad Johnson]

Very small.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tyree got too much muscle.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, and he said it. Ocho. He said he got too muscle bound. He dropped. He said he dropped like 10. So he's like 185. That's. And look. And people like. Well, they got high school guys running, but you got to realize Tyreek is not especially in track. Tyreek is a football player. He's a football player. So let me ask you a question. How many of those guys in high school that could that run 10. 1 or 9.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

9.

[Shannon Sharpe]

2 can run a stop route to run a speed out to run a dig to run an over to go run a comeback.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

See, you take zero.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Anybody that can do something that they don't normally do and do it at an elite level. I take my hat off.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Yeah, I take my hat off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, if. If Anthony Ant man come out there and he ran a comeback and he ran like that, boy, that pretty good for a guy that ain't ran around in seven, eight years.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tyreek don't really. Tyreek trains to be a football player. Now those guys that run that 992, how many of them gonna go across the middle and catch that ball?

[Chad Johnson]

They have alligator arms.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I see like, I see guys. I've seen guys faster than that as Ronaldo Nehemiah. What it's like to catch a football. He ran that shell across.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was a. It was. It was zone.

[Chad Johnson]

He sprayed it like a man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He went right back to track. Because I can pull it up. Google it.

[Chad Johnson]

Ronaldo D. I remember he was fast as hell, boy.

[Dez Bryant]

Hey, hold on. Oo. Did y' all see the dude? Speed and what's the in Ashton Hall.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Speed ain't beating Tyreek. The one thing Tyreek got is get out.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He ain't beating him in a 40. Hey, in a 40, Tyreek really might beat no allows. He can't beat him at 100. But in a 40.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but look, no allow. Strength is the back half of the race.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, because he legit. He's turned himself into 100 meter runner. But he's a 200 meter runner. That's why Usain was so good. Usain bolt was a 200 meter runner, so he got strength. If he could ever get out, if he could ever. If he's even with you after 10 meters, bye.

[Chad Johnson]

It's a rap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bye. And so he's a long strider. So once he gets unwound. Oh, man. That's why I still believe, had he run through the tape in Beijing in 2008, I still believe that was that. That would have been. That was. That was. That was. Might have been 9, 5, 5 or below.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because you got to think about it. The last 10 meters, Ocho, he's doing this. He's piling his chest sideways.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he still read sub 9, 7. Yeah.

[Dez Bryant]

That boy got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He ran a time celebrating the last 10 meters that nobody in the history has ever run. Running through the tape, Tyson Gay and Johan Blake, they got the second fastest times 9, 6. At 969. He ran 9, 6, 8 and celebrated the last 10 meters.

[Dez Bryant]

Yeah. Now you special, man. It was something to watch, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got. I mean, it's always great to see somebody see a professional do what they do professionally.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I saw Michael Johnson run to 200 meters and run to 400 meters at the Olympic trials. Because in 96, the Olympic trials were in Atlanta. Yeah. So I saw him break the world record and I saw him run sub 44 in the 400 meters. To see them guys, to see them in the element. Just like to see Steph or LeBron or Luka. To see somebody.

[Dez Bryant]

What is that training? What is that training like for something like that track?

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Yeah, as hell.

[Dez Bryant]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

We don't want no part of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause they run it. Cause they run it. Because, see, the thing with Michael was very unique. Michael, he had it like, okay, my goal is he wanted to have both world records, but he knew he couldn't break them at the simultaneous. So he focused on one. He went and got the two. So he got the 200 record. And so now he set his sight on the 400 because Lee Evans. Lee Evans, dad, Lee Evans Sr. Had the world record. He ran that in Mexico City above altitude in 1968, the record held until Butch Reynolds broke it. He ran 43. I think Butch ran 4,000, 329. 4,327. And then Michael broke it at the World Championships in 1999 in Seville at 43. 18.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then Wade Van Neekert broke it in the Olympics in 2016 in Rio, he ran 43. 3.

[Dez Bryant]

I'm. I'm asking Because I know both of y' all ran track, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I did. No, no, no, no.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I ran track.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He didn't run no track. I ran track.

[Dez Bryant]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do what?

[Chad Johnson]

Yo, I play soccer. You know, soccer's my love, man. I ain't run no track.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I ran track.

[Chad Johnson]

My daughter run track. That's why when you ask about what the track training like and explaining as.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, Joe, Especially if, like. Like, for 400 meters, they run a lot of. They run a lot of 600 meters. Yeah, they do. I mean, they run a lot of six, 400 meters. Because, see, the thing, what Michael had is that Michael had 400 meters. So when he dropped down to 200, he had the speed. So. But when he go to 400, he had this turnover. So he could. So Michael could run it any kind of way you wanted to. His style was very unique. You might not ever see that again. A guy that could run sub. I mean, he could run sub 44 and rub and rub, run sub 20. Sub 20. You're in 1932 from lane three. Now put him out in there and like. Cause there, if you go back and look at it now, look at it. All the fast times and the 200 did come from lanes 5, 6, or 7. If he'd have been out there. Cause we used to think middle of the track was the best. Lanes 3, 4, 5. Now it's like 5, 6, 7. But that endurance, that work that they put in, Joe, is rigorous. Cause when I. When I. When we run, we would run. We would run 21:10s. Joe, you had 14 seconds to make it, and then you get 45 seconds.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Rest.

[Dez Bryant]

Rest.

[Chad Johnson]

Yep. Yeah, I done seen my daughter run them 250s.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we run a lot of 200s. We run 200s. We have. You run 200s. We have 32. We, like, 32 seconds, and then we walk back across, and then we take off again. So we run 20 of those. We run 15 150s. Oh, then Jumbo Day was Friday. So we run three four hundreds. Three three hundreds. Three two hundreds, three one hundred and fifties. And you had to make all the. You had to make the 4 hundreds in under a minute. So you couldn't. You had to run at least a minute.

[Chad Johnson]

And then, hey, when you do. When you do the 400, you get to walk that one lap. And when you get back to the. When you get back to the top, you start.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you can only take.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You only got four minutes, though, Joe.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Yeah, you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't no take no 10 minutes. You had four minutes to recover that was your recovery time. See, I ran. I ran the 400 in high school. That wasn't my event, but I ran it. But so it was cool for me. I could.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I could easily.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I could easily make a minute. No strain whatsoever.

[Chad Johnson]

But let's do it right now. Race me into 400, man. Race me into 400. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want to basically be with artificial hip.

[Chad Johnson]

I ain't trying. I ain't trying to hear you. Oh, excuse.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

You got excuse.

[Chad Johnson]

Got an excuse me to 400.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You retired after I stopped running.

[Chad Johnson]

I. I ain't trying to hear all that. Race me in the 400.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, now you want to take advantage of a man that ain't got no real him, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, man. Hey, handicap or not, everybody can get it. What? Bet5900?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What? No, we got five. No, we got triple. We got, like. We got, like, salary bet on this bench press.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, hold on.

[Dez Bryant]

Why.

[Chad Johnson]

Why we do. Why got to just be bench press? Let's compete in everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's. What you. What you want to do? Ooh, I want to race.

[Chad Johnson]

I want to play paintball. Let's do basketball. I want to do all type. I want to do all type of stuff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How about, Ocho, I got artificial hips.

[Dez Bryant]

I tell y' all what we can do. We can bet on this ping pong table.

[Chad Johnson]

Not joke, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, look, look, look.

[Dez Bryant]

You claim the Chinese people come over there and train with you. Unk.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That what you claim that they do.

[Dez Bryant]

That's what they do. Hey, hey, that's a good bet. That's a good bet for all three of us. Why I tell y' all up something? Cat raggedy. You hear me?

[Chad Johnson]

Yo, don't play with me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't playing in a while. I ain't playing in a while, though.

[Chad Johnson]

I know. I play around a lot, Joe. You don't see me play tennis. Do not. Do not play with me, Ocho.

[Dez Bryant]

I'm telling you.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Hey, hey, Ocho, you got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got that. You got that cushion. You got the padded paddles, Man, I.

[Dez Bryant]

Got the wood paddles, the padded paddle. I got whatever you need.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Yeah, I ain't play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't play. I ain't. I only played a whole lot with them. The. The padded paddles we normally play with. The sandpaper.

[Dez Bryant]

Yeah, I remember those sandpaper paddles. Hey, see them padded ones you got? You put that little spin on that, boy. Ain't no returning that. You better. Better keep that little wooden paddle you got, bro.

[Chad Johnson]

That. That ain't what you want, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it is, yo. Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, Ask about me, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on, man, flip it up.

[Chad Johnson]

Ask about me in overtime, man. Ask my homeboy Buckwheat. I know Buckwheat might see this. Ask the boys about me on asking boy about me on the ping pong battles, man. That's what I do, man. At Hadley park and Overtown at Gibson. When it come to ping pong table at mopark, that's what I do. I'm telling you, Joe, you don't want to do that, man.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Hey, man, you don't that to O.

[Dez Bryant]

I'm gonna be in Miami in a couple weeks, brother.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, man, I'll let you, boy. I'll come back. Listen, I fly to the south of France in the morning, right? I'm there to the 20th, and when I get back, yeah.

[Dez Bryant]

I'll be down.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, I'm gonna come to the practice. I'm gonna take y' all, boy. I'll take y' all boys, too.

[Dez Bryant]

No, no, Joe, this ain't gonna be that type of party.

[Chad Johnson]

No, no, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We.

[Chad Johnson]

No, nothing like that. Just go.

[Dez Bryant]

We got plenty places we can go eat. Yeah, we got plenty. We got plenty of places we go eat now.

[Chad Johnson]

I know, I know. I just, you know, I just want. It's like a little.

[Dez Bryant]

Yeah, I got you. I got you. I got you.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, you know, y' all come with me. We gotta pay everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe, how we watch this game tomorrow? It's gonna be on CBS.

[Dez Bryant]

Oh, yeah, yeah, on CBS. 4 o' clock, man. The Detroit M's. We play at 4 o' clock. We play against the Triplets, a team that I played with, you know, my entirety time playing here with the big three. So it's gonna be a good one, man. Make sure y' all tuned in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Ocho, Cam heard your response to his Madden criticism, and this is how he responded. Let's take a listen. What Cam had to say.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Okay? Listen to this in the bug right now. And it just hit my spirit, Mr. Chad Johnson.

[Chad Johnson]

Chad Ochocinko.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I got a good bet for you.

[Chad Johnson]

He taking two seconds.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I got respect for you and your platforms with Nightcap. I know you got respect for me and my platform. Afford to one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How about this?

[Malcolm Gladwell]

We play a best two out of three Madden match with 85 or less teams. And the loser gets to sacrifice their platform for a night, for a week.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So fourth to one.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

If you win, Nightcap takes over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I win, Nightcap is taken over.

[Dez Bryant]

By four to one.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, I. Oh, I see what he mean. Okay, okay, okay. I like that. I like that. That's A good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. I like that bet. I like that bet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't like his bet, though. That's nice. I. I go for best out of three, though. Teams. Listen, I play with the Dolphins. I. I don't know. We know what you talking about. I play with the Dolphins. Always have played with the Dolphins. Obviously, that's.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

That's.

[Chad Johnson]

That's hometown. But, Cam, I know you're gonna see this, boy, you know I love you, boy. You hear me? You know how I feel about you, but I'm gonna whoop your ass. I'm gonna whoop your ass in Madden. You know. You know how I am when it comes to competing, so whatever you want to do. I fly to Atlanta. Matter of fact, Cam, I'm coming to fellowship. I want you to hook. I want you to hook the Xbox and your PlayStation up at. @ your cigar bar in Atlanta at fellowship. Because I'm a smoke. I'm gonna smoke. You and I'm gonna smoke a cigar at the same time now. I'll let you. Boy, you know, I'm at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe, you ever been to.

[Dez Bryant]

No, I ain't been. I ain't never been.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got some good ass food.

[Dez Bryant]

Oh, yeah. Hey, yeah, go check them out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Goddamn wings.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They like that Wings. Lamb chops.

[Dez Bryant]

They got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got, like, tacos, those brisket tacos. No, short rib tacos. They got some real good food.

[Dez Bryant]

Yeah, they gotta go check them out this upcoming week, man.

[Chad Johnson]

You smoke the gar. Joke.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. The grit. Hey, grits.

[Chad Johnson]

Joe.

[Dez Bryant]

You smell scars? That's why I'm waiting for you to send me mine. I'm waiting for you to send me my cigars, man. You've been telling me you're gonna send me cigars for two months, man. I don't want. Just smoke no. Anything.

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Okay, I got you. I got you. I got you.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Dak has a 2 and 5 postseason record and has never advanced past the divisional round despite being the number one seed in 2016. The franchise won his last championship in 1995. Dax says winning a championship is personal. I want to win a championship. The legacy. Whatever comes after I finish playing will take care of itself. I want to win a championship just for my legacy or if that's the team, it's for my personal being and maths and for my sanity. The legacy will take care of itself.

[Dez Bryant]

Hey, them boys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey.

[Dez Bryant]

We gonna be ready this year. Okay, Ocho, I told you that already, man. Stop acting like that. All right?

[Chad Johnson]

My bad, my bad, my bad.

[Dez Bryant]

Hey, hey. I like to hear Dak talk like that, man. That lets me know he's preparing the right way. And he looking forward to the season, man. He looking to shut a lot of you guys up. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, listen. I don't never say nothing bad about the Cowboys. I try to support every player as much as possible until I just can't defend you anymore. Listen, I like Jerry. I like the move that Jerry made this season in adding another weapon alongside Ceedy Lamb and bringing George Pickens in. Outside of that, the onus is all on deck now. No, there are no excuses from an offensive standpoint. You got the weaponry around you to get it done, especially to be able to compete in that NFC East.

[Dez Bryant]

We ready, baby. Hey, when you got your main guy talking like that, expect good things to come. You hear me?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, hold on. But he also. You also need to take care of sticks, too. Jerry need to go ahead and pay the man. Stop waiting to the last goddamn minute. 11. Yeah, okay. You go ahead and pay.

[Dez Bryant]

You know, Jay, he like to wait last minute, man. He gonna get him take care, you know.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

You know. You know how he act, Ocho, folks.

[Chad Johnson]

But ain't no need for that.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Ain't no need.

[Chad Johnson]

Ain't no need to keep dragging it out. We. We know you control. We know you run the show. We know you cut the checks. There's no need to drag it out. It don't have to be a circus. It don't be no theatrics every time a fireworks. Just pay the man. Let the man focus and do what he needs to do so he can prepare for the season.

[Dez Bryant]

Yeah, it's the mental game he played. It's the mental game he let it build up. You know what I mean?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand.

[Dez Bryant]

Yeah, but you know he gonna take care of Michael, man, for the season. Jump off Michael. Just keep working hard, baby. Keep preparing. Cause we gotta make some noise this year, man. I ain't gonna lie, Ocho. I almost jumped out the bandwagon. I was holding on. I almost jumped off. Cowboys, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Frustrated, huh? Yeah. It'd be like this sometime, boy.

[Dez Bryant]

I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna.

[Chad Johnson]

I ain't gonna tell you no lie. Ain't gonna tell you a lot. Listen, I'm. I have my bangles, man.

[Dez Bryant]

We got y' all this year. We play the Bengals this year.

[Chad Johnson]

I would hope not. But this ain't what you want. I would hope not, because this ain't what y' all want. We'll put up 55 on y' all.

[Dez Bryant]

Here you go.

[Chad Johnson]

Act like, you know we got. Ooh, we got. We got the best receiver in the game over there in Cincinnati, huh?

[Dez Bryant]

Yeah, y' all got. Yeah, y' all got a bad one.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, two of them. Yeah. Act like, you know, ain't worry about that.

[Dez Bryant]

Cowboys play the Bengals this year? I don't think so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They. Y' all beat the Bengals. Beat him last year.

[Dez Bryant]

Yeah, I know that's last year. That's old news.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

If it ain't.

[Dez Bryant]

Hey, if it ain't happened, probably yesterday, I don't really remember, so let's move.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you remember. You remember that ass cut y' all took? Y' all. Joe, y' all gotta do something, man. Y' all gotta do something about this. Y' all looking. Y' all looking real bad, Joe.

[Dez Bryant]

We get it together. You see, you have our quarterback. You hear how he talking?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He.

[Dez Bryant]

Some of y' all up, man. Y' all talking about the nfc, all this. Yeah. All right.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So much I would do about the Eagles. Hold on.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, Joe, you do know who he is?

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I do, man.

[Dez Bryant]

I know. I know.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. I'm just checking. You know, you got a super chance. And you.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

You.

[Chad Johnson]

You do understand how. How much the commanders have improved.

[Dez Bryant]

I understand that, Ojo. Hey, but I take it one year at a time. And just because you done that last year, that don't mean you just going to carry over and you're going to do the exact same thing the next year.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's been carried over for y' all. Y' all been fucking off for the last 30 years. Come on.

[Dez Bryant]

Come on. You got chill now. Come on, now. Come on, now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, and the Eagles looking at J. Alexander. Ooh. What?

[Chad Johnson]

So they gonna have Keon on one side, Jared Alexander, and then Cooper DeJean in the slot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And guess what the. There have been some rumblings that Washington's trying to get T.J. watt from Steelers.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, my God.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Eagles want him. But the Washington. Washington and the Eagles.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, man. Hey, Howie, man, I salute you, man. That's. That's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That.

[Chad Johnson]

That's ownership.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That'd be great.

[Dez Bryant]

They give him up, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He won't. I mean, tj. TJ won't. He want that. What you call him? He want that.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Miles Garrett.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He want that. He want that demarcation. Man, the Steelers, cheap, man. They not cheap, but, you know, they don't after, like, a couple of contracts. They ain't really trying to play nobody but the quarterback.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. How old is T.J. natto?

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

T.J. about 31. Yeah, but he gave you 11 and.

[Chad Johnson]

A half sacks, you know. You know, how. Do you know how the business work?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do. I absolutely know how to.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Huh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's 30. He'll be 31 this year.

[Dez Bryant]

I hope he don't go to Washington.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I bet you do. Well, you. Hey, the Eagles. The Eagles are trying.

[Dez Bryant]

You don't need to go to neither one of them.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, if he goes to the Eagles, it's over. Oh, man, that's not fair, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's over.

[Chad Johnson]

That's not fair. Could nobody do nothing with that front fold last year? Now you add TJ Watt over there in. In Philly, like. Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With Carter collapsing the pocket inside and him on the edge.

[Chad Johnson]

Stop playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, yeah, that'd be.

[Chad Johnson]

Oof. Now I can see him over in Washington now. Especially. Especially right before. They haven't had to pay Jaden Daniels yet. They got the money to do so. They need to take care of Terry McLaren. Then you can think about Brother TJ Watt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, TJ, man, they need to go and pay that man in money. Going to give him. Going to give him 36. Going to give him $80 million to sign.

[Dez Bryant]

Yeah, I don't know why you even want to lose a guy like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause they Ocho, if you really think about it, they ain't really paying nobody but dk.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Who else they paying?

[Chad Johnson]

On what Cam?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The quarterback. Your quarterback ain't making a 10 million make up the 20 million. He can make up to 20 million. Ain't nobody really making no money but him.

[Dez Bryant]

That's why it don't make no sense to me.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, that was a good. I mean, he making 28 million. He probably like 10th or 11th on highest paid.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he wanted. He wanted the two or three best outside linebackers. When you talk about him and Micah.

[Dez Bryant]

Yeah.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

And Miles.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. What Miles got for it, what happened?

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, I look now, they got. They got. They got out. They got olb. They got rush ends. It used to be either you were in or you an outside backer. Ocho. Now they got rush in, they got off. So.

[Chad Johnson]

Now, hold on now, you know the. Depending on the definitive definition of your position, it does change the money. You know that, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All he says, I got a defensive player of the year. I've led the league in sacks numerous times.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Break me off.

[Chad Johnson]

That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it.

[Chad Johnson]

Simple as that. If you don't want to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

South Carolina quarterback Lenore Sellers turned down an $8 million nil to transfer to a different school. Lenores father told his son, you're 19. You don't need $8 million. You're in a great spot. Let me ask you this, Bun. Do you think NIL is ruining college players because some are prioritizing the bag over a great situation?

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I think it's a blessing and a curse. Right? You know, like, I know a lot of these young players, predominantly from communities of color. This has always been a pathway to success, to change the scope of how your family dynamic exists, to change things from check to check to generational wealth. And the draw to go and play in the NFL was what drove people, for the most part through high school, through college, to try to get to that big payoff. Well, with Nil being inserted now, it's a blessing because kids don't have to wait that long. And, you know, like, I know that's a very. It's a very small number that gets into the NFL and even smaller, they get that big deal out the door and gets that money. And so the opportunity to take care of your family and to set those things straight earlier is obviously a great thing for people to have. But, you know, like, I know when some people get that check, they stop giving a damn. It really can stop the drive for people, because be like, oh, man, I just signed this big check five years and, you know, $180 million and all that. Yeah, but now you're the face of the organization now, you're the biggest cultural export from the city that you play for. The whole. The dynamic for all this shit starts changing when that money comes, you know what I'm saying? For college players that potentially might not make it into the NFL and there's a substantial number of those people, even if they get nil, Shannon, we know it's only going to be four or five people that get real money. And I think that's something that we don't talk about enough when it comes to nil and college athletes. Gameplay is that, yeah, there's a lot of money that gets inflicted into these universities and there's a lot of money that's available, but that's going to go to skill player, you know, that's going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

To go to skill player, quarterback, running back, wire receiver.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Absolutely. People that put numbers on the board, that's who. Or the sack master, right? Something like that. You know, pass rusher, guy like that. So if you can get that money, that's fine. Everybody gets money. Doesn't stop being driven. But if money's the deciding factor, determining factor, then yeah, that could be something that would stop somebody from wanting to go further. And yeah, if you can get the money and you don't have to go to the NFL and risk your body and risk that pain and you got a plan to do something with that money, I think it can work for you. I think it works to your benefit. But if you think happen through the portal from school to school is going to increase your value, you've got another thing coming that's not going to work for everybody. Like, if you got a situation where, you know, you, you know there's money waiting for you, that's fine, but. And if you think you're taking that money now and it doesn't help you, that's the other side. And let me be clear about that. If you think an organization wants, a university, wants to pay you to come and play for that school, but you don't think they're contenders and you don't think it's going to, you know, look good on you, on your record to play for a school that doesn't really have a good chance at winning anything, then I don't see how you get to the next check if that's all you're worried about is that check, you know, so it's a lot for families to navigate. I've seen players whose parents are, you know, they, right now, like the high school parents are like, oh, my boy, finna go to this. It don't matter what college you go to, they gonna cut him a check that like parents are actually saying that. They're saying that right now. So, you know, I wish the brother the best, but I don't. I think the portal, I think the portal works for probably 10% of the people. I think 10% of people. The portal actually puts you in like you have a skill set that can work almost anywhere. But this, this school will nurture your talent. They will put the right type of talent next to you and you will learn and play and look like you want to, to go to that next level. But I, I just think that's a very small group of people and I think a lot of people are being told that there's a lot of money and let's be real, they can't, a lot of universities can't even pay you what they said they gonna pay you. We not even talking about that. I mean, how many college students are sitting on campus with no money because the coach went over there and told you, your mama and your grandmother, then what they was gonna give you and then you get there and boosters and somebody else like, no, that money's advocated for the ball we got coming from over here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it's the NFL version of this topic. Jalen Hurts was concerned for his teammates after signing the biggest deal in NFL history. Don't screw the team. Make sure my team is around, he told his agent. How am I going to keep my team around? How are these guys still going to be paid? Nicole Lynn is his agent. I think he's one of the handful of guys that have a woman as an agent. She's a vp. I think she's a really high ranking official at Clutch Sports, the Rich Paul agency that he started. Very fortunate enough to meet her and some girlfriends at the fight. So I had a great conversation with her. But you see he's like, yeah, the highest paid. What good is the highest paid if we can't win? Because I'm trying to win championships and I know the team that I have around me because they're going to want paydays too. So I'm willing to take a little less and be able to keep X, Y and Z and PQ around as opposed to taking all this money and only be able to keep one or two of those guys around. You see his offensive line still intact. They were able to do something with Saquon. They now they re up. They re signed Brown. They resigned. Brown, Devontae Smith.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

He understands he's not bigger than he's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gonna be good for a while.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

He's not bigger than the program, you know what I'm saying? He understands that, yes, we're successful and I may be the person that everybody focuses on because of the position I play, but anybody that understands this game know I get nowhere if we don't keep this O line intact. And the real money is in repetition. Being competitive repetitiously. Right. Being a contending organization year after year after year. And the only way to do that is to keep people. And, you know, we've seen it. We've seen it done. We said, you know, the Patriots, that was part of the structure that Tom was like, yo, you know, give me all that money. I need this man. I need that guy, and I need those people here. You know what I'm saying? Because Jalen understands as the faith of the organization, as the quarterback of the organization, I can get that money. We go get that money through sponsorship deals and sneaker deals and all of this stuff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Advertising. Yep.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

We not the. The face of a Super bowl award winning team is not hurting for money. He's not hurting for opportunities for money. He's seen what that check was before that chip for everything, and what that check is now. Post chip.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if we want more money, we.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Got to win more chips. If I want to have more money and be a bigger force in this game, I've got to win more championships. And in order to do that, there are certain pieces that have to remain. And if. And if I got to take $20 million off of here to get 50 added later down there, let's run with it. I'm with that all day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. That's the only way. The NFL is great at that. Because the NFL knows, you know what, to generate new revenue, we've got to have new eyeballs. So we got to go, we got to find like, hey, I've got to be a part of this. So Jalen says, you know what? Hey, I win another championship, people gonna say, advertising. Sponsor go say, man, I need a piece of him. I need him to represent my product. I need him to represent my brand. I need to attach my brand to Jalen.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Hurts, absolutely. Shout out to that brother, too, because I believe he got married this weekend.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He did. Congratulations.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I wish he would have come. I would have catered them burgers. I'm right here in Houston. I could have catered them burgers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause I think he's fruitful.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Absolutely, absolutely. We are very proud of that brother.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, found one early when he didn't have A whole lot. Now he's got a lot. She's locked step with him. I love that. Congratulations, Hertz. Darren Waller says he decided to retire after the Giants made him play fullback against the Bills. I sit down on the sideline after a drive where we ran it like three times. I'm like, what the bleep am I doing with my life? I'm out here playing fullback. I don't even want to do this ish anymore.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Was that because he was forced into that position?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Now, and you're telling me no one else wanted him to play him at his natural position at that point, or was he just that team and that situation frustrated him so much against the direction of the game that he just didn't want to play anymore?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what it seems like. Because it's hard for me to believe a guy as talented as he was. But I think it. It has more to do with that he didn't. I don't think at that point in time, he really loved the game anymore. So it's easy to step. It's easy to depart something when you don't love it. If you having a good. There are very few times bun, you leave something, whether it's a party, it's a concert, it's an event, it's church. If you're having a good time, you're more. You're less likely to leave. Now if you bored, you're like, man, man, this is it for the birds. If you in church, you throw that head up and Bud, you know, you get that.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You put that deacon ass hand up.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I'm gonna say it like this. You ever. You ever got ready to go somewhere that you know was gonna be the turn up, they did like, all right, now, look, we gonna go in here, we're gonna have one drink, gonna say, hi, everybody. Yep. I want to be out of here by midnight. Right? And then you look at your wife, it's 2 in the morning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You just ordered it ain't happening 3 mobile. But you know what, Bud? I've also been in a situation where I got dressed and I'm like, man, why am I going? I already know it's gonna be some bull jive and take my clothes right over.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I don't go to award shows really anymore. Me and my wife went to one. We was clean. I went and bought me a Brianny suit, six racks. She had Versace. He had to toe clean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He had that free. I'm with it. You heard that, babe?

[Malcolm Gladwell]

He said, I'm finna do That I was like, this award, I'm nominated. I wanna pop out. Come on, baby. We finna pop out, man. We had them tight ass shoes on and we ended up in line behind Mary J. Blige on the red carpet, man. We took some big. We left and as a couple, we haven't been to an award show yet since. Like, it's just. It's too much, man. It's too much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think, but, but I think the crux of this, I think he had kind of fallen out of love with the game of football. And now I, I'm looking, but you know how sometimes you can look for a reason not to do something? Oh, you know what? That's it right there. So him playing fullback for three plays on one side.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

You know, we put him over the head. He used to. There was a time, and I wasn't proud of it, there was a time when UGK would tour. And when you're an artist and you tour, you put together what's known as a rider. And a rider is everything that you want ready for you when you arrive in the city. It's typically when you ride, typically what you want for your dressing room. But it also extends into the sound equipment, what kind of board we're sending the sound through, what kind of speakers, you know what I'm saying? What does all of this look like? And there was a time where we had an airtight rider. And Chad's whole thing was, every now and then we book a show where he knew that they weren't going to have everything on the rider. And it's a deal breaker. Like, if contractually, if I go to your city, you book me for a show and I say, I need A through Z on there, and you forget H, L and W, I cannot perform and still get paid. So there was, you're right at the time where people's like, oh, man, I know they ain't going to have it tonight. I know they not going to have this, this and that. They don't even know how to find that type of equipment. So I know they're not going to have this tonight. And I try to get with the salamander. I tell them, bro, you got to spend a little bit more money because you don't spend a little bit more money, bro, you gonna lose a lot of money because you got, you got people that, like, you say they looking for an excuse to go home. But let me ask you this, like, why would a football player. And I'm sure it's got to be several things. Why would. If that wasn't enough to really be to make a man want to quit the game, what would it be that would have frustrated Darren Wallace and not want to play? This is the guy that I used to draft on my fantasy football team all the time. The man was bound to do numbers. He was a good player. Is it not being paid properly? Do you feel you're not being paid properly?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. He was played. He was one of the highest players. But Bunny, think about it. When he was motivated because he had some off the field issues, he did everything. He sacrificed, got his life in order to get back into the league because he had a desire to get in the league. At that point in time, he no longer had a desire to stay in the league. And like you said, if I'm looking for a re. I can. I promise you, if I'm looking for a reason not to go somewhere not to do something, I can find one.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Very true. That's very true. That's very true. I'm 52 now for a reason to stay on this sofa in my draws and watch tv.

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Has canceled his race against Tyreek Hill in Times Square due to personal reasons. Cheetah ran 101500 meters last week and troll lives with a response Response to Noah's Tyreek could never signed after he ran the 60 meters in February. No, Noah could never I don't understand.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

This Noah loud situation of protesting so much in public.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thou do protest.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I don't get it. I don't get it I guess because you know what? I've never there's got to be some new shit with the Internet age, I've never seen Olympic champions, like, compare themselves to basketball players and. And all of that, right? It's no less prestigious. Let's be very clear, because, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But we only see you once every four years.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

It's not. Some of the best basketball players that ever played this game never got a shoot. They never got a shoot. They never. They never picked out. As one of the people that we want to put on a pedestal and parade through the press and all of this as a representative of that, even if you were that look at the person that's been the biggest, highest level of representation in the space that you're in. Even when they got his shoe, it was because of culture more than anything. When Usain Bolt got his shoe, it wasn't just because he was the fastest man in the world, right? It was a cultural thing. He carried his country on his back, you know what I'm saying? He had a larger than life personality and he was winning by seconds, right? Like, not these tight eight hundreds.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was no folks.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

No, no, not at all. He clearly dominated. Sha' Carri clearly dominated. You know what I'm saying? Those people that get those shoes, they're not question marks. And if you went around and asked people who's the fastest man in the world, a lot of them will probably still think you same both because they're not tied into that. They were all they're gonna. If you ask if you're not, first of all, you not even the face of track and field, bro. No, like, let's start.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, what you call Sydney McLaughlin start there. Well, Sidney McLaughlin, LeBron, right?

[Malcolm Gladwell]

So if you not even that dude in your space, why are you comparing yourself to people who are certifiedly that dude in their space, bro? Calm down, Bun.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When the last time you saw somebody with track spikes at the mall?

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I ain't seen nobody. I don't see them at the track.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I see old people at the track.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

It's not America's pastime. No, it's not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You way down.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

It's not a past place.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You behind nascar, you behind nascar. First of all, it's football and basketball and baseball and NASCAR and women's soccer, you way on down the list, bro. And it's something look more now. And you see what they've done is that they have the Olympics every four years and now they having the world championships. So people are following a little more. But bro, he's got to stop this hating on basketball players and say, well, they won't Give me this. I mean, you gotta go back. Really. Only two guys I can think of has ever really had a shoe. And you really had to follow track and field to know that's Michael Johnson and Usain Bolt. But you're talking about two of the greatest Olympics in the history of the. In track and field.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Michael Johnson was an anomaly in track and field. Like, it wasn't even a question. Like that was one of the surest bets in sports for years, bro. Years he was. He literally brought that sport to the forefront of America because of how dominant he was. You're not that guy in track and field, bro. Like track and field. I just want to be clear. No disrespect to track and field athletes. That ain't never been the pre. The prima donna's sports has never been the preeminent athletes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look what Jeff Owens had to do. Jesse Owens had to come back. He won. He won three gold medals. He came back and had to raise horses. But I'm saying this fascination because there's so many other things. You got baseball, you got football, you got basketball. In Jamaica. What others? I'm trying to think. Jamaica, you got track and field. Track and field and I think soccer. That's the biggest, the biggest thing you got in Jamaica. They don't play football, they don't play. They don't do business. Cricket, you don't care.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

That's the big thing is cricket.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, but, but, but I'm saying, though, but you know, Noah is, is in a. He's in a niche sport.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I don't understand. I don't understand why he feels now all of a sudden that a track and field star is on the same level. Like, it's no disrespect to the athleticism. Right? We, we can't disrespect the athleticism of any of Olympic athletes. We always. We all understand what it takes to become who that brother has become. Yeah, your beef ain't with athletes, bro. Your beef is with shoe company.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With track and field federation.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Nobody's going to invest in a shoe that people are going to buy. Why they buy track shoes? One, because track shoes are only meant to be worn on court. And the track shoe is. Only makes you faster on the track.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Court, the track.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

That's the only place that applies. So a basketball player, yes, they will get shoes because people will buy their shoes, put them on and go fucking play basketball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And guess what else they'll do? They'll walk in the street. You see them in the mall, they'll go to Events and shoes. Because shoes are just not for basketball. Shoes are just their fashion statement. Now you see guys at red carpet events, you see guys at award shows, you see guys wearing sneakers.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Yeah, that's the new thing, is tennis and tux. Tennis and tux. That's a new thing. But now he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He. But he started this long ago though, bud, and I didn't like it. Talking about he's a world champion of what? The usa, bro.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Come on. I think he trolling us, bro. I think. I think he trolling us. I think he trolling us because he can't possibly believe that this is something that people are. That there's a popular opinion that you're right, that, yeah, you know what? He should be this. No, no, I don't believe that. I believe other track people saying, shut up, boy. You finna fuck this up for everybody else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Exactly. Exactly. And that, bro, you're not usain because Usain. Usain was universally loved everywhere in China, in Jamaica, in America.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Because he was a winner. He was a winner. And not like you said, not this photo finish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was transcendent.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

This man was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was transcendent. We're going to be talking about Usain Bolt. 50 years.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

We're going to argue about how much faster he could have run in certain races because he slowed down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Had he. I go to my grave believing had he not celebrated the last 1012 meters at Beijing. When he turns sideways and he's pounding his head, he runs faster than 95. I believe that.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I don't think he felt the need to run faster in those.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was so happy. He was daylights ahead of people. And still nobody's ever run faster than he ran. And he celebrated the last 10 meters.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Crazy. Crazy. Noah, go sit down, bro. Sit down, bro. In time out. You're in time out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, you. You bet. Hey, you effing it up, everybody. Hey. Hey, Cynthia McLaughlin. LeBron said, I don't feel that way. Rob Benjamin said, I don't feel that way a quiffy.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I like where I'm at right now. Well, if that's the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. If that's the case, hell, Michael Phelps should have got a shoot. Simone Bile should get a shoot.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

If we throwing our shoes. This is true. Because they're more accomplished than you in their sports. They're Olympic champions. They more accomplished than you? Yes, if they didn't get a shoe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sydney. Sydney is a two time Olympic champ. She's the world record holder.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

She.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She's a what? A two or three time. I mean, she skipped the last world championships. She's a two or three time world champion. She's the most dominant 400 meter hurdle. She might be one of the most versatile women in track and field history. No, you've never. You haven't even won the gold medal in your signature event. And see and what Michael did, what really put Michael on the map is when the Olympics was in where Atlanta. He had the gold shoes on. He doubled the 400 and the 200. It's never been done. Men, the women. Valerie Briscoe Hooks did it in 84. People don't realize she was the first to do it. And then Jose Marie Perrette, she did it. The French one, she doubled up in the two and the four. No, bro, you fighting.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

He trolled. He trolling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't want people to say I think he's phenomenal. I think he's phenomenal. He's great. But bro, just run. Get the meat money, the Adidas, what they pay you, you break a record or you win the Diamond Leagues or you win the U.S. do you win the trials, you win the Worlds.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Just go all villain at this point. Just go all villain, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got anybody but show up with.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

A bag, use Floyd Mayweather and be the bad guy and try to get. And for people to pay to watch you lose that kind of a thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he might as well get a mask. I'm a really. I'mma come. I'mma come out there with. I'mma come out there with cowboy. I ain't going to have my spikes. I'm going to come out there with cow. I'm going come out there with cowboy boots and black leather trench coat and I'mma have a toy gun on my side. If you say you're going to go villain, just go villain.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

That was going to raise our show speed. Then I talk.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you wanted to race?

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I don't know. But if you want to raise somebody, you want to prove how fast she is gonna be speed right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you do realize that if he were to race speed of Tyreek, it'll get more views than if he. What he wasn't in. In the world. In the world Question.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

More people would care. And that's the problem. Like we could. We don't even.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because track and field is really. We care about what we care about the Olympics, that's every four years. Just imagine. And you can't. And even when they have Diamond League meets, you can't watch them unless you go on the Internet. Unless you go on your computer and pull them up at Flo Track. Shout out to Flo Track for trying to advertise, trying to showcase. But bro, I'm just keeping this.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

He wouldn't even be talking about this man if he wasn't trolling us. Like I think this is all a troll to get his, get his name in a national conversation one way or another. Some people don't know the difference between famous and infamous, Shannon. They don't know the difference.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sometimes they say any news is good.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

News and make it work.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Somebody elbow. But in football, I can make it look like a football play. And I'm really, I'm really intentionally trying to get you up out of there.

[Dez Bryant]

That's what I'm saying. I'm saying even, like, even when, even from watching, when I see like a pow, right a pile of gap, I feel like you can cheap shot in that when you in that little pile right there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Finger right through the face, man, right in his eye. Or you get a somebody hand down there, you get up, step right on his head. All that way.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. You get them back.

[Dez Bryant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And when I was in the league, they don't. You can't do it now the blind side block the crack back. Oh, I'm trying to get you up out your helmet. I'm trying to put my hand, I'm trying to put my helmet right here.

[Dez Bryant]

And they ain't playing no more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They won't let you do that. Yeah, they'll fire the hell out. You do that. First of all, they gonna throw a penalty. And then you go get that FedEx letter in your locker on Wednesday. Absolutely. Oh, they gonna get you. Raven signed veteran quarterback Jahir Alexander to a one year deal worth 4 million that could pay up to 6 million after incentives. Alexander reportedly had offers for more money elsewhere per Adam Schefter, but the opportunity to play with his former college teammate Lamar Jackson was too much to pass up. Especially after Lamar pushed hard for Alexander to sign with Baltimore earlier this week. So now they have Jair Alexander, Pro Bowler Marlon Humphrey, Pro Bowler Nate Wiggins top a first round draft pick. Kyle Hamilton, one of the premier safeties, all pro. And Malik starts. Malachi. Is that, is that Malachi? Malachi Stark. Who's the rookie?

[Dez Bryant]

Hey, Ravens going for it this year, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely.

[Dez Bryant]

They ain't got no choice.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Nope.

[Dez Bryant]

They ain't got no choice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They going zero.

[Dez Bryant]

Look, they already know they're going to get great contribution from, from Lamar.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Yep.

[Dez Bryant]

And, and, and, and Derek Henry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Dez Bryant]

And add, add some of them, them blue collar workers around them, them Guys who can defend. I think that's what they looking for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They re look, they re. They gave Derrick Henry, they made him the what, third highest played running back. Then you signed Rashad Bateman to a long term deal. Lamar is in line to get an extension. He's going to get, you know, money. You got Zay Flowers, who were phenomenal last year, made the Pro bowl, but he got hurt that last game. He ended up missing the playoffs. And now defensively you got Roquan Smith, who's one of the better middle linebackers. You got Marlon Humphrey, who's tremendous at the slot. Jair, if he can stay healthy, that's been his issue the last several years in Green Bay. He couldn't stay healthy and you know them trying to push him to get on the field. He like, I'm not healthy when I'm out there. I'm looking bad. So I putting bad tape out there. So he's like, we knew it was just going to, eventually it was going to, it was going to end with them. But I like, I, I like this move. They're one of the better teams now from top to bottom, offensive defense, we know what they represent offensively. With Lamar, who's always going to be in the MVP discussion, Derrick Henry, one of the two best backs in football along top three him, Christy McCaffrey and Saquon. Now Lamar is going to have to do it. I just need to be Lamar to be Lamar in the postseason that we see in the regular season. That's it. I don't need, I don't need, I don't need him in a cake, but I just need him to be him in the postseason like he is in the regular season. And he does such a great job to go back and look at his stats, great job protecting the football and some for some ungodly reason. And I don't know if he's putting too much pressure on himself, but the turnovers happen. But I think turnovers get you beat.

[Dez Bryant]

You know, in the post season things are a little different. You know, teams game play a lot harder even, even that, that defensive front, you know, knowing they gotta get after, get after the ball a lot more. You know, like in the regular season, you know, he's, Lamar is pretty much freely, he playing free. You know, he's out there having fun, running around, throwing touchdowns. In the post season, man, it's, it's a lot different in the postseason in basketball and football and you know, for like you say for whatever reason them turnovers just been killing them in the postseason. So I look forward to, you know, learning from their mistakes. And obviously, you know, this. I mean, it's a great chance for them to, you know, finally get them one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, the thing is, Joe, what I tell people, the thing that people talk, that love about football, is that you guys, if you play a series sport, football, hockey, excuse me, basketball, hockey, baseball, which means best 2 out of 3, 3 out of 5, 4 out of 7, and if you get to that final game and the series is tied 2, 2, or the series is tied, you know, whatever the case may be, three, three, and we need the final game. In the NFL, every football game is a game seven. And you dealing with the finality of it, seeing the regular season. Okay, hey, guys, we gonna flush that one, we're gonna move past that one. X, Y and Z. It's on to the next. But there is no tomorrow when you play football in the postseason. Tomorrow is next year. And you go in and you're going to get your stuff, and if you don't lose that game, they're going to give you a Hefty bag and you're going to put your stuff in there, you're going to clean out your locker, and you're going to go talk to the general manager, you're going to talk to the head coach, you're going to get a clean bill of health from the trainers, how you feel, anything, blah, blah, blah. If you're going to have surgery, you're going to sit you up for the surgery. It's over. And I think. And Lamar is. Like I said, it's the. And I think he just put so much onus on himself. He like, man, I gotta do it. I gotta do it. And he has the team around him that can do more than their share.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

You gotta.

[Dez Bryant]

He gotta be great almost every. Not almost, but every night. Especially in the postseason. Like you said, there's no tomorrow if.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He just holds on to the. If he just like the turnovers. I don't need him to throw for 300. I don't need him to rush for a hundred. But even if you throw for 300 and you turn the ball over twice, it's probably going to get you, because especially the further you go, because the farther you go into post season, the better the teams are. Yeah. And you pay double for turnovers in the postseason.

[Dez Bryant]

That pressure build up. That pressure builds up because you know it ain't no tomorrow. You go out there making them mistakes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. But looking at this secondary, this secondary is good. I mean, it's Very comparable to what they got in. What they got in Philly.

[Dez Bryant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Yeah.

[Dez Bryant]

They gonna be able to compete with the best? Yeah, they're gonna be able to compete with the best. It's gonna be a fun one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dallas star cornerback Trayvon Diggs said that the Cowboys will win the super bowl this season. This will be our year, Joe.

[Dez Bryant]

I sure hope I show be right, boy.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

I sure hope you're right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is he gonna be able to. He got an injury. Is he gonna be able to come back and play this year?

[Dez Bryant]

Yeah. What injury he got?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he had an injury. He missed time last year, Joe.

[Dez Bryant]

Yeah, from his acl, I think. Was his acl. He had just came back from acl. I think he'd be all right now, huh? That'd be what a good year. Some change removed from that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but he's aiming for week one. But he had. It was, it was significant damage, though. So he's a, he's saying he's aiming for week one. They normally Cowboys do a great job of kind of erring on the side of caution. Man, before he got that injury, before he got that first injury, man, he was special. Now, look, you're in the feast of famine, got Joe. He gonna get you now. If you don't double move him and you just let him sit back. Oh, he gonna get you now. And he. Because he went to college as a wide receiver, Coach Saban moved him to defensive back. So he got receiver hand as a dp.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Yeah, look, I sure hope he right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If we.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Dez Bryant]

Hold on, hold on. He Come on now. Hey, look, I, I, I like the confidence he leading with, okay?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do realize that.

[Dez Bryant]

In order for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Them to get to the super bowl, they got to go through the Eagles, right? Detroit, Green Bay, San Fran.

[Dez Bryant]

We just gotta, we just gotta be better than them for one. For one game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all ain't been better than nobody for a lot of games last year, remember?

[Dez Bryant]

We gotta, we're trying to move forward.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We can't continue.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

We.

[Dez Bryant]

Look, we can't, we can't continue to bank track and talk. We can just gotta, we gotta move forward. Hey, hey. And hope for the best. All right? So I, I, I like, I like how he thinking. I love his confidence and hopefully, what.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If my game did. Y' all ain't signed Michael yet. Y' all ain't gave Michael his money.

[Dez Bryant]

Come on, you know we gonna get that man his money. He gonna get his money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why y' all gotta wait till the last minute? Why y' all wait till the last minute. Man, you know the prom. Why you knew the prom. You knew you were junior or you a senior, and you knew you going. You wanted to go to the prom. Why you wait the week of the prom to go get. Try to get a tux?

[Dez Bryant]

Listen, listen, y' all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gotta go down there with DuckTales.

[Dez Bryant]

You know how Jerry Jones operates. He gonna pay him. He gonna pay. He ain't gonna have no choice.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

He gotta pay him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He got no choice. And he want more money than Miles Garrett.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Ching. Ching.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He said, I want. He gonna want 42, 43, 44 PER.

[Dez Bryant]

He gonna get it, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he gonna get it.

[Dez Bryant]

We just need him to stay in shape. We don't need him to miss no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No camp.

[Dez Bryant]

We don't need him to miss none of that. I hate when them dudes be missing camp. Cause. Cause you know, coming into camp, if you miss camp and then you come back the week we play, man, come on. It ain't gonna be pretty. You know it ain't gonna be pretty. We need you out there on that field, baby, with the squad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but hopefully Trayvon is healing up good, and he'll be, you know, he's aiming for week one, and we'll see how that turns out. New coaches, new coach, new defense. So it's gonna be interesting. Yeah, we need Adrian Peterson got into a scuffle with a poker player following dispute overhand. We got the video. Oh, snap.

[Dez Bryant]

That man must have some cards. He must have been sitting under some car.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I guess they were good friends. They've known Free. They've been friends for a while, so.

[Dez Bryant]

And they just let. They just letting the mate, like. Oh, man.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Damn, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He wailing on him, man.

[Dez Bryant]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Dez Bryant]

What? That's about.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

The volume.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Malcolm Gladwell]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

This is an iHeart podcast.