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Paul A. Pierce
I think romance is dead, like with the new generation. That's just the new generation. That's what. That's the only thing I think you got to be with an old school to know.
Azar
But are the old school doing it? They might know what it is, but are they lighting candles and running baths and doing rose petals? Yeah, they are.
Paul A. Pierce
They wait for that special moment. Okay, you going to melt. You going to melt. This is the taking over the game. All right, everybody. Welcome to Truth after dark.
Azar
Do you think that men or women are more toxic?
Paul A. Pierce
What's happening, y'? All? Welcome to another edition, season three. Look at us. Truth after dark. Make sure you tune in daily, man. Welcome, y'. All. It's another edition of truth after dark. I'm your host, Paul A. Pierce. The truth. I got the lovely azar sitting here looking all. Mm, uh, uh, what's up, girl? Good to see you again. Back at it. How you doing? Hey, we got. Look, we got a new little setup here. I got the hookah rolling. Yeah, we popping, we popping. What's going on? What do we got? What do we got today? What we talking about? Hey, hold on, though, man. Did you see, man, it's a lot of going on out here in the streets before we even get into it. Like, the whole cardi b with Stephanie.
Azar
That's the first scene that I'm talking about.
Paul A. Pierce
Word. I didn't even. I didn't even. And then you got the whole ja rule on the plane. Ja Rule, my dude and everything, you know, Damn. I hate to see, you know, when the rap beefs is doing that because I feel like for the culture that, you know, we should all be vibing together and doing something. I know the history with them and yayo that go, you know, way back and everything, you know, you don't really like to see us out in public doing that type of shit, you know, I hope that can get it resolved soon. That'll be, you know, that'd be dope for the culture if it was a sit down with them and we can get them On Truth after dark. Yay. Yo, 50s. I don't know. I don't know. But, you know, you hate to see that. That type of stuff with us in public and everything. But hopefully, you know, it can come to something. You know, I just love us. I love, you know, everybody in the culture that's. That's doing anything. But, like. Yeah. Did you see that thing with Cardi B?
Azar
So, yeah. So Cardi B and Stephon Diggs, supposedly, that mean they broke up. So it's not a secret that obviously Stephon Diggs has other children on the way while Cardi B, you know, and him are together.
Paul A. Pierce
They had a kid together, huh?
Azar
Yeah, they also had a kid together, but he had other kids on. And, like, not everyone. That's a lot. So basically at the game, he had the new baby and the baby mom all in his jersey in the front seat in the front thing. And Cardi B's not feeling that. Cause that's blowing me. That's gonna blow me. Because the baby's not old enough to see what's going on. It's a newborn, so it's not like the baby's there to support you. You got your. No, I'm never going for that. And Cardi B is done. And 50 Cent posted. Imagine losing the super bowl and losing this bitch. He was like, this is crazy. You lost a bad one. Andrew lost it. He said I would be waking up drinking and sick to my stomach. You lost your girl and you lost the Super Bowl. You are silly. And it's just like, yeah, these men. But I also have to say, like, that's not an easy situation to be put in, clearly. But I feel like he's handling it poorly and wrong. And I think he's young, you know?
Paul A. Pierce
No, it ain't that. It's just like, Stephan Diggs is treating her like she's just some work for real. He ain't looking at her like, she Cardi B. Like, I'm Stephon Diggs. What you mean? You know what it is? Like, she knew what it is when she got into it. Like, yeah, I got all this going on. You wanna fuck with me? All right. This is what it is. Like, she know what she stepped into. So how you mad when you see that in front of your face? Like you knew what it was like. Don't act like that now and be all in your feelings and wanna do. Nah.
Azar
Well, this is what men don't. This is what men fail to understand. I understand what you' like me personally, Stephan Diggs has all These baby mamas, all these.
Paul A. Pierce
You know what it is?
Azar
I'm not going to do that. But I will say this. I do feel like what happens is a woman feels like she can handle it in the beginning before her emotions are fully involved. And then once you start to really be super involved emotionally and your feelings grow and change, you realize, oh, I'm not really built for this, because I love hard. And seeing this is breaking me. Like, you think you can do it at the beginning when you first met a man, you're like, this is cool. We're vibing. And women, we have this fault about always thinking or seeing, like, the best in somebody. Like, okay, he might not do that to me. Like, he might really love me. And we don't know what he was saying to her. You know what I mean, at the end of the day. So, I mean, yeah, it's a tough situation, but, yeah, he already had all them different baby mamas and all them.
Paul A. Pierce
Kids work for him. Let's keep it 100. Like, all right, I got you over here. I got her over there. Like, you know what it is? I got a girl pregnant while I'm with you. And we got pregnant. Like, I got both of y' all pregnant. Like, you understood the situation. So why you getting mad? Because she wanted to come to the game and support. Like, that's what he's saying. That's what he's saying.
Azar
Don't. Why are you coming to the game? To support. That's crazy. That's not your man.
Paul A. Pierce
Like, you have to be. But he has a child with her. He's saying, like, hey, my child want to come to the game. The child that I want to come to the game.
Azar
No, that's bullshit. That's some bullshit. And if that's me, I'm cool, too. No, I'm good. Like, I'm good. Love and joy, because that's messy. And she's in the Jersey. He's in Jersey.
Paul A. Pierce
It was messy from the beginning, though.
Azar
Yeah.
Paul A. Pierce
Everybody is documented.
Azar
That's why I think women. Don't put yourself in that situation because we're too emotional. I think we think we can handle things that we can't. And then that's what a man will tell you. Instead of being caring about your feelings, a man will sit in your face and be like, well, you decided to do this, so don't, don't, don't. Don't do it. Women, just get your own shit cracking. Get with someone who wants to be with you, love you.
Paul A. Pierce
Just because you a celebrity, that don't mean you work. You ain't no work. Cause it's a lot of celebrity. That's work. And it looked like she was some work. 100%. That's what it looked like on the outside, looking.
Azar
Well, how do you work if you're booed up in love? Posting together.
Paul A. Pierce
He's posting, but, like, it's like, he be over here and everybody know it. Yeah, it's like, it's been documented. This ain't nothing I'm making up. Like, he flexing over here. I'm over here. Like, yeah, like, come on now. I got a lot of different situations. He got a lot of different situations. And they all like, come on, man, don't.
Azar
Yeah, he do have a lot of different situations.
Paul A. Pierce
Come on. You wanted to deal with that and, like, you wanted to be like, to me, I feel like she wanted to be with him and she wanted to commit to him. Because, like, when people go through a breakup, a hard breakup, you know? Cause obviously she was with Offset a long time, had kids with. And they moved too fast. That looked like a move too fast type of situation. And you understood the assignment. And when it got thrown in your face, now you wanna react to it. Man, come on, man, don't act like that now. Like, you knew what it was, and I'm not saying that's right, but you knew what it was. You know what I'm saying? Like, should he, out of respect, not invited her? Like, you should, like, out of respect. He probably should have put her in a different role.
Azar
You shouldn't be there. There's no reason. The baby's a newborn. Why is the baby there as a mom?
Paul A. Pierce
Was she sitting with the mom, too?
Azar
Yeah, I think so. Like, that's a newborn baby. The baby don't need to be at the game. Go sit down, girl. Like, and that's another thing, though. Everybody wants so much clout with all this stuff, and it's just like, I don't care about none of that. Cardi don't need that either. So for her, it's just like, she did it.
Paul A. Pierce
But she's.
Azar
She don't need that clout. Cardi B.
Paul A. Pierce
Is cracking like she accepted it.
Azar
Yeah.
Paul A. Pierce
You know what I'm saying? At the end of the day, a woman, regardless of her status, regardless of her public limelight, the man is the man. He's still the man. Like, just because you famous, I'm Steph Diggs. Like, whatever. Like, you ain't about to be looking down on me or, like, running the shit like he run this. He gonna do it how he wanted. And she understood that at first, but now when it came to the biggest stage, like, don't do that. Don't leave. Don't, don't. Like, come on, don't do that.
Azar
You don't do that, period. Like, I'm not going for that. That's embarrassment. All of it is embarrassing.
Paul A. Pierce
This is my thing is you went for the other shit, but you ain't going for this. Like, come on. Because.
Azar
Because you don't know what the conversations they've had. You want to say, a man says he's a man. All this. You don't know if that man behind closed doors is like, baby, I love you. It's not like that. I would never do that. You don't know what he's saying. And you men think like, men say that all the time. And they talk to women as if they're the only one. And I love you down. And it's not like that. And me and her are not like that. And we're doing this and we're doing that. Like, men do that. And then when you show up, you don't know what he's saying to her. Trust me. Like, you don't know. Men pillow talk and say all type of stuff to women and give them a false reality and hope that something is different. And so you don't know that he might been consoling her the whole time. Like, I don't like these women. It wasn't like that. It was a mistake. I don't mess with them. This is not giving that. Da, da, da, da, da, da, da. And now, as the relationship progresses, she's finding out that that's a lie.
Paul A. Pierce
So, yeah, from the beginning, when they got together, people was like, why are you. Why is Cardi with him?
Azar
Yeah, people say that all the time, though, about people. People talk down on people all the time. And just like, people can be like, why are you with this person? That person can be like, baby, don't believe that. Like, I'm not on that. I love you. You know me. You know how I am. Like, so say all the time. So man be behind closed doors.
Paul A. Pierce
Don't listen to a man's words. Listen to his actions. Yeah, 100% listen to his actions, which goes. See words. But if you see the actions tell more than the words.
Azar
Yeah, 100%.
Paul A. Pierce
Because you could fool me by what you say to me, but you can't fool my eyes. You know what I'm saying? You can never fool my eyes. You could. Don't go for what your ears tell you. Go by what your eyes tell you. Because your eyes is gonna be the most loyal thing to you.
Azar
Yeah, 100%.
Paul A. Pierce
Your ears are gonna lie to you all the time. So remember that.
Azar
Yeah. Remember what you see.
Paul A. Pierce
You believe what what you see.
Azar
Yeah.
Paul A. Pierce
In the actions is really what it is.
Azar
100.
Paul A. Pierce
What you hear, I don't know.
Azar
So, yeah, what you see, people doing, that's what it is. And I think that everyone needs to follow that advice 100%. So speaking of actions. 21, Savage was walking. Did you see the video of him? Yeah. Walking and hugging that wall.
Paul A. Pierce
Wait, who is this girl?
Azar
Lotto.
Paul A. Pierce
Lotto. He like, he's not playing. I'm not about to trick off Lotto now. I'm over here. Like, I'm not with her.
Azar
That's a real one. And all the women are reacting, cuz they're like, exactly. You don't want no friendly ass man. Hug that wall, baby. And so Lano posted on her story to the window, to the wall. She posted the song like, yeah, my man don't play. That's why. See? And this is why Lotto can so confidently be like, my man, my man, my man. Because she's the one who created that. My man, my man, my man. Because that's why a woman feels like that when they know their man don't play. They're not going to embarrass them in public. They're not going to make them look stupid. They're not going to be extra friendly with no girl. That's how you could feel like, my man, my man, my man, my man, period. And women were reacting like, is this not how my man is? I don't want it, period. Because he wasn't playing around. He said, I'm not with you.
Paul A. Pierce
Both walked through the VIP door and he wanted to let them know, like, no, I'm over here.
Azar
I'm over here, baby. This. I'm not dealing with this girl.
Paul A. Pierce
No, that ain't it.
Azar
I'm at the wall with it, like. And I feel him. I feel him 100%. So oo, cinco. He said that he oo the homie.
Paul A. Pierce
Oo.
Azar
Yeah. He said that he has a two kid minimum for women because women with kids keep food in their pantry. He said, well, without kids, they don't have no food in the pantry. So.
Paul A. Pierce
Can'T she out here eating ramen. And I come, I pull up like, she ain't man. What? I'm rolling with that. I'll roll it. That makes sense.
Azar
You rolling with that?
Paul A. Pierce
That makes sense. She probably don't know how to make no oxtails. She don't know how to make no grilled chicken or nothing. You can't make her make nothing. She eat chips at night.
Azar
I'm dead. Not chips.
Paul A. Pierce
I rock with Ocho. Hey, Ocho. Shout out. I love that. Because he at that age, though.
Azar
He at that age, men say anything. Because last episode you said women are cooked with kids and nobody wants a woman. Yeah, you did. You said a man don't want. Darnell, make sure you put that in right here, because we love to do that. We always put it in. When he says it, everyone be like, yeah, you did. You say. You say it all the time. Women's. When they have kids, options are slimmed up. And they don't have nothing to that now. It's cracking. Which one is it?
Paul A. Pierce
You know, them 40 enoughs, they a little insecure. They desperate. You think you slick plies just because.
Azar
They'Re 40 and up, they're insecure and.
Paul A. Pierce
Desperate if they single. If you 40 and up and plies is looking for you, he know the situation.
Azar
Which is what?
Paul A. Pierce
That you a little more thirstier than normal. You yo standards almost as out the window. And you got like a. You ain't got no room to be choosing. You gotta choose who chose you. A single woman with kids is humbled, you know, and they willing to, like, go beyond for they man when they got a new man. Okay, yeah. And that's what he's saying. Like, they gonna go more beyond because they know they situation. Cause I'm like, thing, you know, it's cool. I feel that.
Azar
Okay, so Idris Elba, he talks about his definition of romance, and he said that he likes encouraging his wife when she has moments of doubt. He loves being the arm in the ear that tells her, you got this. And he says that romance, that's what romance is to him. Like, when she hugs him and affirms him, that's what he views as romantic. What do you feel?
Paul A. Pierce
That's his views.
Azar
I'm saying, do you agree with that? Do you feel like, what is your definition of romance?
Paul A. Pierce
All right, so my definition of romance is doing the things you don't normally do. That's more romance. Cause romance is not an everyday thing. Because when it's every day, it's not romance. Because that's like, you know, we're used to that. I hug you every day, I kiss you every day or whatever. I open the door. That's not romance. Romance is like something different that you don't normally do. You go out the pocket like, you know, rose petals or you get her. You just doing something that's not normally what we do.
Azar
Yeah.
Paul A. Pierce
That's more. And it's like candlelight is not every day. Like making a food for your girl or your wife is not every day. And a man don't everyday do that. You know, that's romance. When he put the candles out, he made her some food, he ran the tub, gave her a massage, you know, things of that nature. That's like some romance type of stuff. So where it's like, oh, damn, I don't usually get this. So like, damn, that was a romantic and it was sexy. Romance is sexy.
Azar
Yeah.
Paul A. Pierce
You know what I'm saying? It's like you go out of your way to do the things like for example, like if you've run the tub and you got the rose petals in there with the candle lights and it's dim and you know, she had a hard day. It was like, damn. And you just put her in a mindset to where she was like, damn, my man did that today. It's not an everyday thing, but it's something. So that's what romance is really all about. Doing the things you don't normally do. You know, let me put the. Let me, let me put. Let me, you know, let's do something different.
Azar
Yeah.
Paul A. Pierce
You know, and it's not romantic when it's always happening. You know what I'm saying? So I like his definition of romance because if she feel it like that, then that's what it is.
Azar
Yeah.
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Paul A. Pierce
What's wrong? What's your idea of a romance? Like, what is romantic to you? You know what I'm saying? What's romantic? What does romantic mean?
Azar
I feel like, for me, like, if.
Paul A. Pierce
A man don't normally open the door and he opened the door, is that romantic?
Azar
No, I feel like, like, no, it's not.
Paul A. Pierce
I feel like that is romantic, though.
Azar
Okay. For you. That's not romantic to me.
Paul A. Pierce
That and he does it. That's romantic to me. It's the romance is a combination of a number of things, not one thing.
Azar
Are you asking me what I think or are you telling me what you think?
Paul A. Pierce
All right, let me tell you. Tell me what you think.
Azar
I'm so confused. I personally feel like romance to me is like the little things, like being thoughtful. Like, again, if you said something or if I said I like something, and then it's like, oh, babe, I did this. Or, you know, whatever it is, it could be something so small or like, I noticed that, like, you sleep a certain way, so I got you a pillow that makes like just dumb stuff like that. Like, little stuff. I feel like that's super romantic in my opinion. Or like, you know, you're always cold, so I got you this little robe.
Paul A. Pierce
Romance is dead in this generation. No, it is. Only old school cats know what romance really is. Like, the real romance. Like this new generation don't know what romance is.
Azar
I don't believe that.
Paul A. Pierce
I believe that because real, like, the real romance is like, all right, I wrote her a letter.
Azar
Yeah, I love that.
Paul A. Pierce
Ain't nobody writing a letter. They texting a letter.
Azar
I've wrote a letter.
Paul A. Pierce
Write a letter and he leave it there for you. Or like, say it's your boyfriend, y' all live in the same city. He wrote you a letter.
Azar
Yeah.
Paul A. Pierce
Writing a letter and got to your mail. That's romantic. And it's only old school cats that's doing that. That's.
Azar
I, I, I've written letters and I've gotten wr letters and it's not.
Paul A. Pierce
When the last time a man wrote you a letter? 10 years ago?
Azar
No, no, no, no. Actually not. I've had a written.
Paul A. Pierce
He was older then.
Azar
No, I mean, he, yeah, he was not older. Like, he probably is like 38.
Paul A. Pierce
That's older. Yeah, he was born in the early 80s. That's like, only 80s. After 80s, romance died for real. Cause this new generation don't know what romance. They think romance is opening the door. That's not romance. Real romance come from old school cats. Like, we understand with the romance. Like the rose petals. Let me have a rose petal. When she walk in the door, that's gonna lead to something. It's gonna lead to the table over here with the food. And then after that, he gonna have a note. Okay, after you finish eating, go over here. And it's a rose petal's gonna lead to the bathtub. Boom, boom, boom. It's gonna, like, be a treasure hunt. Like, that's real old school. Like, this new school don't know nothing about the treasure hunt romance type of. Like, that's old school. Cats can do that.
Azar
Yeah, yeah.
Paul A. Pierce
You know what I'm saying? Ain't no new cats doing that. That's romance. They think, all right, I'm gonna put you on a. Cause you got money. I'll put you on a private jet with some roses. That's Roman. That's not real romance. Because you got the money. If it costs money, a lot of money. That's not romance. Romance don't cost a lot. You know what I'm saying? Romance is thoughtful than a.
Azar
That's what I was trying to say. The thoughtful stuff. Exactly what I said. Like, thinking about the things that, like, literally, I'm on my period right now. I'm not. I'm saying if I'm on my period, right, you know, that means you have, like, lower iron. So, like, I know men who are like, oh, I track my girl's period, and when she has lower iron, I make her a steak, and I get her a heating pad and some hot tea and da, da, da, da. Like, that's so romantic right there. Like, that's. Or like, even just tracking your woman's spirit and knowing, like, she's more emotional right now because this. And. And she's, like, knowing that is crazy. That's romance to me. Like, knowing my body, knowing what I'm going through, knowing that I'm PMSing, and it's harder. So you got me a steak in my favorite little sweet. Like, something like that, like, to me is really, really romantic. Like, little stuff again, like knowing your.
Paul A. Pierce
Your partner and, like, it's hard to be romantic. It's hard to keep thinking of that.
Azar
Yeah, I can imagine.
Paul A. Pierce
Old school niggas know what romance is. I don't think this new Generation know what romance is. They just use the money to be romantic and think that's romantic. Oh, you know what? I'm gonna take this shopping spree. I'm gonna fly you and your girls here. Like, they think that's romantic. That's not.
Azar
No, that's not romantic. And at the end of the day, like I always say, a man with a million dollars can give you $500 and a man with $100 can give you $100. Which one's more romantic? So you're taking the gesture of, oh, he already has all this money. It's nothing for him to do those things, but it's something for someone who doesn't have it or not. Or just like thinking, like actually using your brain. Like, oh, this person said this. You know what I mean? I'm going to do this.
Paul A. Pierce
How do a man that don't have a lot of money be romantic?
Azar
Easy, baby. Got off work, babe. I know you had a long day. I ran you a bath. I have to oil out. I'm a rub you down. I'm going to give you a massage. I'm going to put on your favorite show. We're going to watch your favorite show together. Together. I lit your candles, cuz I know you love the candles. I made you dinner cuz I know you want dinner. Like easy. Like it's just with women, I mean again, new age women and different things. Like is different now, but like for women who actually care and who are actually lover girls like me, like, those things go a really long way.
Paul A. Pierce
So that's why I say these new generation don't know what romance. If you in your 20s, they don't know what their romance is.
Azar
I mean, I can't just count out a whole generation.
Paul A. Pierce
Count it out as a whole. I'm counting it out. They don't.
Azar
We don't know.
Paul A. Pierce
Romance is like for real. Date a dude in his 20s and see if he can do some romantic.
Azar
I'm not dating anybody in their 20s. But yeah, I get it.
Paul A. Pierce
What'd you think? What do you think? You think? I think romance is dead. Like with the new generation. That's just the new generation. That's what. That's the only thing I think you got to be with an old school to know.
Azar
But are the old school doing it? They might know what it is. But are they lighting candles and running baths and doing rose petals? Yeah, they are.
Paul A. Pierce
They wait for that special moment. Okay, you're gonna melt. You gonna melt.
Azar
This is the more or less segment brought to you by price picks where you can win real cash by picking just more or less on your favorite players. Use code TAD and get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. Okay, so today I'm gonna ask you, is this more of a bare minimum treatment or princess treatment? I don't know if you've seen online, but there's like men and women in relationships and they go and this guy interviews them and says, is this bare minimum or is this princess treatment? So is a man doing this for a woman? Is this a man doing this for a woman? It's just like, you should be doing this. This is. You don't get a. You don't get cookies for this. Or is this princess treatment?
Paul A. Pierce
That means princess treatment.
Azar
Okay, so opening the car door, princess, bare fucking minimum. Like the hell bare minimum.
Paul A. Pierce
Like got arms over the door. Goddamn.
Azar
See, that's the. You get it, You a gentleman ladies. Because these and that man out here, they don't want.
Paul A. Pierce
Like, if you gotta open the door every time and that's gonna make or break something.
Azar
It's not. But is it. It's not Princess Street. It's bare minimum.
Paul A. Pierce
Is that meaningful though?
Azar
I think that.
Paul A. Pierce
How do women actually feel?
Azar
Like, I think when it's like after.
Paul A. Pierce
Like 10 open doors, it's like, still.
Azar
This is what I'll say.
Paul A. Pierce
I think when it's at the beginning, it's.
Azar
That's the problem with men. They do things at the beginning and then they fall off.
Paul A. Pierce
Women do the same thing.
Azar
Yeah. But it doesn't matter. I think that for me, I would say, like, the open door is not a huge deal for me. But I think as women like, is it sweet and is it like, wow?
Paul A. Pierce
I feel like such we arguing over open the door.
Azar
I don't think it's an argument. I think it's just about like, damn, okay, that feels good. Like, it doesn't. It's not an argument. When a man does it, does it feel like, wow, yes, it feels good. But is it an argument? No. Is it something where it's like, he didn't open my door? No, but women, we notice little gentlemen stuff. Like, it's just is what it is.
Paul A. Pierce
How many times you got to do it every time?
Azar
No, I don't think so. Me, honestly, though, I'm going to be honest, I dated a guy who always opened my door. And at some times I'm like, get in the car, let's hit it. Like, I do have that feeling, but sometimes it's nice. I feel like it's Sometimes it's nice. I don't think. Every time.
Paul A. Pierce
What times? On date night?
Azar
Date night. Or if it's just a situation where. Let's say we're getting into the car and you have to walk past my door and you open it or like, little stuff like that.
Paul A. Pierce
I feel like this. If it's raining, if the weather is snow on the ground. But hold on, let me make sure. All right, good. But like, every time, it's like, damn, let's run here. Like, you ain't gotta open the door every time. I like on date night. Okay, that's. Yeah, yeah. Date night is cool.
Azar
Valentine's Day.
Paul A. Pierce
Yeah, for sure.
Azar
My birthday.
Paul A. Pierce
Yeah, for sure. But, like, we just going down the street, get some in and out. Like, get in the car, girl. Let's go get this burger.
Azar
Okay, let's move on to the next one. Sending a good morning and good night text. Bare minimum or princess treatment?
Paul A. Pierce
Bare minimum.
Azar
Exactly. I agree. Walking her to her door. Like, if you drop her off at home. Bare minimum.
Paul A. Pierce
Depends on how the night went.
Azar
Bare minimum of princess treatment.
Paul A. Pierce
That's princess treatment. Walking to the door, your ass. Probably living a high rise. I gotta go through the elevator, park in the parking lot, walk you all the way up to the door. Like, what you mean? Would you live in a house or you live in an apartment? It depends. You at the queue then, damn, I gotta go through security. Two doors. Walk you upstairs. Then I got can't no one over my car right now.
Azar
Okay, next one. Giving your partner your phone password. Bare minimum of princess treatment.
Paul A. Pierce
That's princess treatment for sure. Yeah.
Azar
I mean, I think in a relationship.
Paul A. Pierce
I ain't tripping off of that.
Azar
I think that, like, if I'm with someone, I don't really care if I don't have nothing to hide. So, like, I think being sneaky about your phone is weird.
Paul A. Pierce
Yeah, that is.
Azar
It's like, what are we sneaky? Like, yeah. For what? Like, if you. If I can't touch your phone, you're nervous? Or you can't just look at my phone or pick up my phone or call someone from my phone. I think that's weird. Like. Or do something from my phone. I don't like that.
Paul A. Pierce
All right, I know. Is this a red flag? Let me ask you this.
Azar
You love to get to red flags.
Paul A. Pierce
No, no, no. But this is part of that, though. This is part. This is bare minimum.
Azar
Okay?
Paul A. Pierce
Like, if you in the car with a dude, he driving you around, and he take his phone off of, like, Bluetooth of the car. So, like, you know when the. When the phone ring in the car.
Azar
That's tricky. I don't like that.
Paul A. Pierce
Right.
Azar
That means you're hiding. You could tell, though. Like, I don't like that. And I'm not someone that's like, overly gonna. Like, I would never. I'm not going through nobody's phone. I'm not doing that. But it's not.
Paul A. Pierce
But are you gonna say something if he, like, take the Bluetooth off in the car or his phone ring and gonna come in the car?
Azar
Yeah, I'm gonna say something.
Paul A. Pierce
You gonna say something?
Azar
Yes.
Paul A. Pierce
Something.
Azar
I say something about anything. I don't. I. I don't like, I do pick and choose my battles. I do not say something about everything. But if that is going to bother me now, and now I'm going to be like, you're like, why? Like, you're sneaky. I don't trust the car.
Paul A. Pierce
He drive it every day.
Azar
Okay, so bare minimum or princess treatment? Buying flowers randomly? Bare minimum.
Paul A. Pierce
Princess treatment.
Azar
That's so crazy. That's bare minimum. Flowers randomly for your girl is just bare minimum to me. Like, there's no way that's princess treatment. When you have a woman that you love and care about, I think I.
Paul A. Pierce
Can tell you I love you. And that's equally to giving you flowers.
Azar
Okay. I think that you random a little flower, pick a flower and give it to her. Cute stuff.
Paul A. Pierce
That's easy. See, this is what my thing is. Like, for men who got some bread to buy flowers. Like, you can buy your girl flowers every day. You can take her shopping and make her smile every day. But you could do that. And that don't mean that he love you because he could do that for any girl.
Azar
I agree. I'm not saying that. Like, we're not saying that, though.
Paul A. Pierce
But like, flowers, it might be a dude that's in a girl flowers every day. That's like, he could do that. When you spend money on a girl you like, he like, you know what I mean? Here goes some flowers. Here goes some flowers. Here goes some flowers. Like, but when you like, actually something that's gonna take up your time, that's princess treatment. When you taking away the time that you just feel like going out of your way is princess treatment. Like, you have something to do, but you don't do that because you want to do something for your girl. You want to do something for your wife. That. That's more princess treatment where you just like, you know what I had. I'm off that today. I'm not doing it. I'm taking. I'm taking day off. That's Christmas treatment. I'm not. Not gonna go to the gym. I wanna take her to breakfast or lunch. That's princess treatment. But like, the flower thing and the open the door thing, everybody doing that. That's so.
Azar
And everybody's not doing that. That's the problem.
Paul A. Pierce
Everybody can do that.
Azar
Everybody. But it is going out of your way because it's being thoughtful. It's like, oh, I just decided today to go out of my way. I'm gonna do this. Yeah. Men who have assistance and have that on a rotation. But if you're a man, that's just like, cool. I went out of my way to think of her today.
Paul A. Pierce
Are we dating? Are we together? When I say open the door too.
Azar
When you what?
Paul A. Pierce
Are we dating or are we together for what? Because guys gonna open the door when they dating together.
Azar
We're talking about together.
Paul A. Pierce
When you're together, they stop opening the door.
Azar
No, not all men.
Paul A. Pierce
Well, that's why I say be consistent. If you ain't gonna do it in the day error, don't do it.
Azar
I agree with that. Because you don't want to introduce a woman to a vibe that you can't maintain. Yeah, don't introduce me to a vibe you cannot maintain. Honey, I'm not tripping off the door opening thing. Like, I think it's nice and I think it's cool when it's done and it's like, okay. But I don't think it has to be at every stage, every moment. Because sometimes it's like, let's get in the car, let's hit it. Like, I don't want to wait and wait till you get in the car. But I'm also can be impatient. So I'm like, let's go, right? I think flowers are nice. I think every woman likes flowers. But, you know. Okay, so remembering the small details, she.
Paul A. Pierce
Mentions, that's princess treatment. That's princemas. Because it's little shit. No, no, the small details is princess treatment because you can remember something that she told you, like, months ago, and then you made it come to fruition. Like, damn, I forgot that I. You know what I'm saying?
Azar
Fruition? Yeah.
Paul A. Pierce
Like, you know, I really like this, and you was just in the middle of a conversation, but then like, damn, he remembered that you liked that and he made it happen.
Azar
Yeah, that's the best thing ever.
Paul A. Pierce
Like, if you watching tv, that place is so pretty. And then he bought you a trip there.
Azar
Yeah, that's amazing.
Paul A. Pierce
You know, that's what I'm talking about. That's the little thing.
Azar
When that happens, I will say that that's like, wow, I be feeling so special off of that.
Paul A. Pierce
Because it's like a little conversation that you might have been just on the password.
Azar
Oh, yeah, no, I've been.
Paul A. Pierce
That's so fly. He remember you said that, like you comment on a girl's dress and then next thing you know, he bought you that dress. You know what I'm saying? That's when you really paying attention to your girl and your wife. Like, you really gotta pay attention to little stuff. I think that's the princess treatment, not the little shit that like everybody like.
Azar
We're just asking these questions. Let's get to the next one so.
Paul A. Pierce
We can throw she do me.
Azar
No, because you be making it a whole dissertation. Okay. Checking in when you get home. Princess treatment or bare minimum.
Paul A. Pierce
That's bare minimum.
Azar
Bare minimum. Sharing your location. Princess treatment or bare minimum?
Paul A. Pierce
Bare minimum.
Azar
Introducing her to your friends. Princess treatment or bare minimum?
Paul A. Pierce
Bare minimum.
Azar
Introducing her to your family. Princess treater. Bare minimum.
Paul A. Pierce
Thus, bare minimum. If we together. Come on. Like, you, my. You my chick out here. Hey, here. Here's my brother, my sister, my mom, my dad. Like, you supposed to do that.
Azar
Picking her up instead of telling her to Uber. Princess treatment or bare minimum.
Paul A. Pierce
Is it a black car? Princess treatment. If it's a black car.
Azar
Complimenting her every day. Bare minimum. Princess street treatment.
Paul A. Pierce
Complimenting her is bare minimum.
Azar
Yeah. Reassuring her when she feels insecure. Bare minimum or princess treatment?
Paul A. Pierce
Bare minimum.
Azar
Period. Not liking and following thirst traps. Bare minimum of princess treatment.
Paul A. Pierce
Bare minimum. You're not supposed to be doing that in a relationship. This is in a relationship, right? Everything okay? Okay.
Azar
Unfollowing your exes. Bare minimum or princess treatment.
Paul A. Pierce
That's bare minimum.
Azar
Exactly. You shouldn't be following your exes. And if I'm dating someone who's following the exes, I don't like that. Texting updates throughout the day. Bare minimum or princess treatment.
Paul A. Pierce
That's princess treatment. Because I can't keep up with that. Like, here I'm over here at 7:11. Here I'm at the gas station.
Azar
Not all of that.
Paul A. Pierce
I'm rolling down Crenshaw. Like, damn, that's Prince's treatment. If you doing that, you. You. You high. You. You really. You cheating if you doing that. If a dude is doing that, he cheating.
Azar
Cause he's guilty.
Paul A. Pierce
Yeah, yeah, he like. No, he not guilty, but he just like, you know, I'm just like hey, I'm just at the homie house. Hey, I just. Hey, like, he got something to hide. Yeah, yeah, you checking in all the time. Like, he gonna let it all. At the homie house. Where he really at a chick house. I'm just chilling. Oh, I'm over here watching tv, watching the game. Nah, dawg, he doing something. I'm telling you, you ain't got to do all that. When you secure your relationship, like, she know your patterns, she know your. Your moves and how you move. You ain't got to do that. You know what I'm saying? You ain't got to do that.
Azar
Okay, Carrying her bags automatically. Princess treatment or bare minimum, caring, like.
Paul A. Pierce
How heavy is it? I'm just saying, like, damn. How heavy is what bag? Like, her bags.
Azar
Airport. We went to the mall.
Paul A. Pierce
She was like, I got you a thing that roll. You can roll that. I got my own bags.
Azar
What about your shopping?
Paul A. Pierce
This is where I'm gonna carry the bag. When it look like it's too much, I'm gonna be like, all right, let me grab that. But if it's like, she could roll that. Cause I got this.
Azar
She like, what about, like, shopping and she has bags in her hand and you guys are walking in the mall or something?
Paul A. Pierce
Nah, she carried them. Cause I want everybody to know, look, look. Yeah, she. Yeah, she got that bag. Girls like to carry that bag. I don't care what you say. They like to hold them bags, like, especially it's from one of them spots. They want to hold them things, like. But if it's heavy, I don't want to hold them. I got that. But if it's like that little, small.
Azar
Little purse, I just think that for me, it's like, I'm so used to my dad. Like, if we're shopping, carrying all my bags, like, it's just all of them, unless it's uncomfortable for him, and then I'm very helpful, so I will carry something. But I do. Like, I don't care about carrying no damn bag.
Paul A. Pierce
But, like, if it's a small bag, like, you want to carry that? Like, look, my man bought me this. Walking through the mall, like, yeah, girl. Yeah, yeah. I feel like the girls like to be seen with the things that they man bought them. But when they get, like, that big bag, I got the big one. Like, oh, yeah, I got that. You know, this is for her because I don't shop there.
Azar
I think it's more of a flex where it's like, yeah, my man bought them, and he's holding them And I'm walking. Yeah. Like, what do you mean?
Paul A. Pierce
It's 50. 50.
Azar
Okay. Defending her in public. Disagreements, Bare minimum.
Paul A. Pierce
Or defending her in public, for instance. That's bare minimum. Like, you better defend 100% even.
Azar
I think, too, a big thing that I agree with is if you have opposing opinions with your man or your girl, and you're in public, like, you should never def. Like, fight them on that in public. I think it's like, okay, cool. Yeah, that's what he thinks. Or that's what she thinks. Celebrating monthly anniversaries, Bare minimum, princess treatment.
Paul A. Pierce
That's princess treatment. Like, I forget what day we met. I forget what day we got together. Like, we gotta do this. Everybody.
Azar
Every month is.
Paul A. Pierce
We already got Christmas, Valentine's, your birthday, Easter. Like, but what.
Azar
Okay, so what anniversaries do you think people should celebrate? Only when they're married or when they've been together for, like, a year. They're yearly.
Paul A. Pierce
If y' all been together for a year, y' all can celebrate that. It's an accomplishment in this. This climate and day and time. Okay, yeah, we can go do something. We could take a little trip. Like, damn. You know, we've been together a year. You know, I'm gonna take you somewhere.
Azar
Right, right, right.
Paul A. Pierce
Yeah. Cause we already got. Like I said, there's so much holidays for the woman. Valentine Day. We gotta do something. Easter. Like, Christmas.
Azar
Who has to do something for Easter?
Paul A. Pierce
Like, the man. The man.
Azar
For their girl. What are you doing on Easter for your girl? That's if you had your kids. You're not doing nothing for your girlfriend on Easter. That sounds crazy. She gets an Easter basket.
Paul A. Pierce
Y' all get her Easter basket.
Azar
I'm crying. Like, what? The Easter basket is crazy.
Paul A. Pierce
That's wild.
Azar
Booking. My birthday is right next to Easter, too, so it has to be ready for the birthday. Booking trips together instead. That's not even a good one. Okay, do you have any that you want to add?
Paul A. Pierce
Bare minimum or king treatment? Or king treatment. Right. Let's get to that. Bare minimum or king treatment. Bare minimum or king treatment. If your girl. If she run into her ex and you out with him. Yeah. He'd be like, hey, how you doing? He do this. Bare minimum is what you gonna do. Hug or speak. King treatment. Don't speak to him. Or bare minimum. Half hug.
Azar
I think you're not gonna do. That's not even the question.
Paul A. Pierce
Well, that's the question.
Azar
I said, like, I don't even know how to answer that. What am I gonna do if I Run into my ex, and I'm with my man, and he tries to reach for a hug. Yeah, I'm gonna be like. And I'm gonna keep it pushing. Dap you up. Like, I don't have nothing.
Paul A. Pierce
No, I'm not giving them the bare minimum.
Azar
Yeah, I'm giving him bare minimum. And matter of fact, my ex is known not to come up to me and try to give me a hug. Honey, they gonna be looking at me. Probably try to text me, call, I'm so sorry I fumbled. I want you. I love you. That's what they're gonna do. Don't even look at me. Come up to me. You're blocked. And I don't like you. All my exes, though, do not. I don't play that. My exes and everyone that I.
Paul A. Pierce
Have you ever been in a situation to where you was out with your man and you definitely seen your ex and was like, hey, how you doing? Just half hugged him in front of your man?
Azar
No, I never did that. But I've been in a situation where I for sure ran into ex.
Paul A. Pierce
A man did that.
Azar
Exactly.
Paul A. Pierce
Okay, you've been in a situation where you ran into your ex.
Azar
I for sure been in a situation where I ran into my ex. I've told this story. I don't think so. Yeah, I've been into a situation where I went into a private party at a bar, and because the girl that was at the front looking at names remembered me as his girlfriend, she was like, oh, you're good. And I'm with someone. They're like, oh, y' all are good. So they're not checking me like, it's a party list. It's his private party. He rented out this joint. They let me and him in. And yeah, the man comes up to me. I told you, this is like, oh, my God. This is God. I've been calling you every day. You have me blocked.
Paul A. Pierce
Your man was right there.
Azar
It wasn't my man. I was just dating this person.
Paul A. Pierce
Okay, on a date, then.
Azar
On a date. So they can't say nothing because it's like, we're not. We weren't serious. We were on a date, like, maybe like three, four dates in. Yeah, it was embarrassing. And I was like, this is wild. And he literally was like, this is a coincidence. This is God. Because I've been praying to have you here. His mom is there, his whole family, everyone coming up to me, hugging me. Azar, we love you. Y' all are back together. We wanted you. And I'm like, wait, no, we're not. Yeah, so that's awkward as hell. Give another one bare bare minimum or king treatment.
Paul A. Pierce
All right. Bare minimum or king treatment? You meet a guy that night, y' all vibing, drinks is flowing, conversation is going, bare minimum or king treatment. Have you ever had sex on the first night?
Azar
This is not. Hold on.
Paul A. Pierce
When you mad.
Azar
This is not a bare minimum sex.
Paul A. Pierce
On the first night. Sex on the first night is bare minimum or king treatment.
Azar
That's king treatment. What do you mean bare minimum? That sounds stupid as hell.
Paul A. Pierce
How does that sound? You never had sex on the first night you met a guy?
Azar
No, I've never had sex on the first night.
Paul A. Pierce
Why? Okay, fine.
Azar
I don't care.
Paul A. Pierce
Really?
Azar
Yes. Like, I've never had. No one could come up front and say that. Like, I've never just did that and was just like, okay, cool.
Paul A. Pierce
What's the most you ever done on the first night?
Azar
I'm not talking about all of this. Like, this is not bare minimum or keep treatment. Get another bare minimum. Get another most shocking.
Paul A. Pierce
If you haven't had sex on the first night, what's the best you?
Azar
I'm not sharing those details on myself. I've definitely like, yeah, I made out, kissed once. This is once. I did. I made out on the first month. I did make out with this man on the first night. So I don't wanna introduce some other.
Paul A. Pierce
Things before on the first night.
Azar
I'm not getting into this.
Paul A. Pierce
So you have then. If you don't get into it, it's a no. If you don't get into it, it's a no.
Azar
I was saying. Yeah, I was like kissing and we were vibing. We did a lot.
Paul A. Pierce
Have you ever done anything sexual on the first night with a man? I say yes. You see, when a woman paused, that's a yes.
Azar
No, I'm not saying that she didn't.
Paul A. Pierce
Went down on somebody on the first night.
Azar
No, that's not what I'm saying. I never. Because like, you could be like, rub, bare minimum or treatment. What's the next one? I'm not doing this. You're not about to do this today.
Paul A. Pierce
I got it.
Azar
Because you do this all the time. Like, because we've talked about this before. You love to get into this. What's. Do you have one more. Are we going to move on?
Paul A. Pierce
We can move on.
Azar
Okay. Thank you to our good friends at prize picks. America's number one sports pick Apple app. Use code TAD and get 50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. Okay, so let's get into this. So basically there's a viral meme that went meme that went around. And men, it asked men to give women one piece of advice when it comes to being with a man and being in a relationship. So one example is get a man said this. He said, give no man second chances. We are fully aware of our actions. We consider the consequences beforehand and we still make that choice. Do you feel like that's good advice?
Paul A. Pierce
Say that one more time.
Azar
So a viral me went around. They asked men to give women one piece of advice when being in a relationship. One example. And I can show you the thing. It's a bunch of them, but one example, the first one is give no second chances. We are fully aware of our actions. We consider the consequences.
Paul A. Pierce
The man or the woman? Again, like, who we talking about, the man or the woman?
Azar
The men are asked to give women one piece of advice. Man is telling a woman this. A man is telling women this is their advice to women. Okay, Give no second chances. We are fully aware of our actions. We consider the consequences beforehand and we still make that choice.
Paul A. Pierce
That's bad advice.
Azar
Why do you think that's bad advice?
Paul A. Pierce
Because some men do things out of like, impulsive behavior because they mad at her or they going through something. Like, a man could be going through something that they girl don't understand and he reacted and did something that he gonna regret. Like, for real. Like, he probably did something he ain't like. Men don't always be fully aware that they actions. Not always. Women are more fully aware of their actions when they do it. But a man be sometimes impulsive on their decision based on argument or going through it. And like, no, it's not the same because we are different. We are completely different. And women, when they do it, it's different than what a man do it. I'm telling you, it's an impulsive thing. And a man, that's bad advice. Just period. That's bad advice. Because men make more mistakes than women, you know, and.
Azar
We.
Paul A. Pierce
We dumb. We dumb because we react on impulsive decisions and do shit that we regret. When a woman do it, they ain't gonna regret it.
Azar
That's not true. No, no, you're not a woman. That's not true. Women regret things too. We're human beings. Women make mistakes and regret things all the time. It's not rocket science. Like, we're women. We have regrets. We have the same type of stuff. We are just more, I think with a woman, like, we consider things a lot harder. Like, oh, I'm not gonna do this. Like, everything I do, down to a picture you post on Instagram, you're gonna consider your man. And I think men, they're more just self indulged. Like, that's just how men operate for a lot of the time. Like most men like women, when they mess with a man, their whole routine can come, like, be off and they'll like, change their whole life for a man. But a man, I notice, and this is through the years, men, they don't change their stuff. They still go be going to the gym. They're not going to miss a beat on their life. Women will, though. Women will start. They'll. And that's why when women and men break up, a woman's whole life feels shattered because she made her world like, for the man. And that's why I think it's hard because men say, like, I want my woman to be all about me. I want it. But that's such a big risk as a woman, because you create this life around the man, and everything I do is surrounding that man. And then if we break up, my life is over. I have to rebuild and restart everything. And I think that that's why women, when we make choices, we're, we're, we're thinking more of like, this is the man I'm with. This, this person is like, who I'm dealing with. I'm not going to make silly mistakes because I'm not going to jeopardize what I have. But I think men, they just like, y' all just do anything. And that's what I learned.
Paul A. Pierce
This is what I got. When you just said, you said women build their life around a man, right?
Azar
Yeah.
Paul A. Pierce
So then like now when y' all break up or y' all go through something, women will be like, oh, he's a narcissist. It's always all about him. But you built your life around a man to where you want him to make it about him. So then when y' all break up, you say, he's a narcissist, but you wanted me to be that. So, like, make it make sense.
Azar
Not all women do that. I think you always say this, so I don't know if that's something you went through, but honestly, that's not what all women say. I've done that before. And I haven't called. Never. I talk on podcasts all the time. I've never called one of my ex narcissists. You never heard me say that. I've never did that. And I've done that. Like, I don't think that. I don't believe in that. First of all. I think that word is just used so loosely. I think that men can be selfish at times. That doesn't mean you're a narcissist.
Paul A. Pierce
But if you want to build your life around a man and you want him to make decisions and you want.
Azar
Him to, like, that's not a narcissist.
Paul A. Pierce
No, no. It's not about making decisions. It's about, like. Like, you want me to have the control. You want a man to, like, say, all right, this is what we doing. And then you say, oh, you made it all about you at the end. But that's what you presented.
Azar
I know, but you're talking about a specific situation. Like, I don't know.
Paul A. Pierce
I'm talking about, like, that's what a lot of women do.
Azar
Okay, well, I don't know about that. I just feel like at the end of the day.
Paul A. Pierce
Let's talk about all your relationships. You made it about the man.
Azar
I would say that a lot of them. I try to. You know what I mean? I tried to, like, cater to the man and do the things that.
Paul A. Pierce
I never called your exes a narcissist.
Azar
No. You can look at every podcast clip I've ever had. I've never talked about my ex as a narcissist. I never called one of my exes a narcissist ever. Like, not one time. Matter of fact, when I was single, I did. Years ago, I did a podcast with my ex, and we literally sat there and talked about everything. I have a whole episode with my.
Paul A. Pierce
Ex on the show.
Azar
No, I'm not doing that.
Paul A. Pierce
Why not?
Azar
I'm not doing that. You want to bring your exes on the show?
Paul A. Pierce
Why not?
Azar
Okay, then you bring your exes on the show. I'm not bringing my exes on the show.
Paul A. Pierce
Why not?
Azar
Like, I had. I had. I did a podcast.
Paul A. Pierce
It could be some healing.
Azar
No, that's. What am I healing with my ex? Like, that sounds ridiculous.
Paul A. Pierce
Have you ever had an ex to where you had a chance to say, like, you said the things. The way it went wrong, and so.
Azar
I'm telling you, I did a podcast with my ex. Me and him, we interviewed. Like, I interviewed him. We did a podcast episode a few years ago.
Paul A. Pierce
We should do that.
Azar
And no, I don't fuck with my exes. I did that with him because, like, we were just freshly broken up, like, and we just did it. But when him and I did it, like, it was. It was Cool. Because he literally was just like, he. Because people always like, your ex. He was on there and he said things, but he never was. Like, you thought I was controlling. You thought, like, I could literally show you the episode. Like, I never called him a narcissist. I never said he was controlling any matter of fact, he was. Like, you always were open to. Like, if I'm like, no, no, this. Like, you would be open. You might say something, but you're not. Like, I never tripped off. Those weren't our issues. Those were never our issues. My issue was like, are you cheating? Are you lying? Like, once that's happening, I'm done. And then I left him. Like, I'm not doing that. But, like, yeah, I left his ass. I'm not doing no cheatings and all this stuff. Like, you're not. Because men don't understand when you're cheating and stuff. And that starts to. The soft spot I have for you, it starts to go away. Because I don't feel safe. I don't feel like I could be vulnerable. I don't feel like I could just be like, okay, babe, I want to listen to everything you say. I want to do this because I'm nervous now. Every second that I look like a fool, that I'm looking stupid, I don't feel good anymore. I'm losing respect for you. So now it's not fair for either one of us to stay in this relationship anymore because I don't feel the same.
Paul A. Pierce
Damn.
Azar
I don't feel the same. Like, I just don't. I don't feel the same anymore. Like, after you know for a fact that a man is cheating on you, you can't feel the same after that. And any woman would tell you that. Like, it just. You wouldn't feel the same about a woman. You just don't. You don't. You don't. You don't trust them. You lose respect. You're paranoid. You get. You don't want to be vulnerable. You don't want to be open anymore.
Paul A. Pierce
Have you ever been with your man and ran into a dude that you used to mess with and didn't tell him?
Azar
Like, you asked this question on the last podcast. You always ask these same questions. What is it?
Paul A. Pierce
No, I'm saying, have you ever been with your man and then ran into a dude you had a sexual encounter with or a relationship but didn't tell him?
Azar
Yeah, probably. I mean, like, I don't feel like you should have to tell every second. Like, if the man's not coming up to Me. He's not your homeboy. We're not around each other. Like, what is the point? I had sex with him. That's just oversharing. I don't want the man to tell me I had sex with her. Like, don't bring her around me. I'm not hugging her. I'm not saying, what's up?
Paul A. Pierce
Don't introduce me. If a man. If your man ran into a girl that he had sexual relationship with or relationship, would you expect him to tell him? No.
Azar
If she's not in my vicinity and, like, you're not introducing. If she's coming up to you and she's like, oh, my God. And hugging you and doing the most.
Paul A. Pierce
Yeah, if she's doing the most, you expect them to say something about it.
Azar
Yeah, if she's all over you.
Paul A. Pierce
No, she ain't gonna be all over. Cause you with your girl.
Azar
No. People are crazy, though. They don't realize sometimes that your girl is right there or whatever, and they come over and they be hugging.
Paul A. Pierce
Do you want a man to tell you, though? Like, if he was like, damn, a girl coming to y' all out, right? She came up and she came up to you like, hey, good to see you again. Oh, it's good to see you. Oh, man, I hope everything is well. Like, if he says some things like.
Azar
That, good to see you again as a woman. You already know.
Paul A. Pierce
You know, you know, like, he probably messed with her. You think? Like, he probably.
Azar
He messed with her and you. It's like, I don't. I don't really care for you to have to tell me if it's just, like, not that deep. It's just like, whatever. Like, I don't need to add on the list of every woman and what type you had and who you was having sex with. That's going to blow. Yeah. That's just gonna feel like, damn. Like, now I have to see every type of girl you had sex with and what your type is. And, like, I don't want to know all of that. Sometimes, like, people need to learn to have some, like, privacy. I don't care to know every person you slept with. Like, I just don't. You know what I'm saying? Like, sometimes just. I don't want to know. Honestly, I just don't want to know all the time now if it's a situation where, like, she's being disrespectful or something, like, cool. You know what I'm saying? Like, what's up? But a woman is gonna know. Like, you could feel the energy of how a woman approaches a man. Because we're women. We know, like. And her energy of, like, her life. Yeah, like what? Like, there's women who come. Like, I've been out with a man, and like, a girl comes up like, hey, hello. Like, we know what's going on.
Paul A. Pierce
You think you know that. That's what that means.
Azar
Yes. Like, if a girl came and say, paul. Hello, Paul. And that's for sure happened since I've been out and I've seen things, and I know in my head, I'm like, oh, he was probably messing with her or dealt with her or ghosted her. Something for sure. Cause she's. You could tell when a woman. She's just like, hey, hey, do you see me? Like, I don't know why women do shit like that, because I'm not approaching no man.
Paul A. Pierce
Or what is it?
Azar
It's hater. But men don't realize the level of haterism that women do. Like Dr. Sarah Fontenot was talking about and when she was on our pod. Men don't realize that. And that's why women get so upset with certain. Because you don't realize, like, women are such big haters when it comes to stuff like that. And they'll purposely plant seeds or say little slick or say little like, oh, like, they'll do that all the time. And as a woman, we peep that and we know, like, oh, you're trying to be slick or you're trying. Or they'll specifically be like, oh, this has happened for sure. I won't be like, oh, I had no idea he had a boy. A girlfriend. I had no idea. Like, he never talks about it. Like, I would have never known he was in a relationship.
Paul A. Pierce
Yeah.
Azar
What are you saying that for? Cause you want someone to feel a way that your man is out here not looking like he's in a relationship. That's happened to me with my recent relationship. Like, people do that all the time, and they make you feel. They want to make you feel away, and they want to plant that see seed in your head that is something weird going on for 100%. And it's like, I know all the tricks in the book, sweetheart. You cannot play with me.
Paul A. Pierce
How do you react to, like, you out with your dude.
Azar
You love this. You out with your dude.
Paul A. Pierce
Go ahead. You out with your dude. And then y' all go to, like, a spot, and then it be like, oh, hey, it's good to, like, like, the girl know the guy.
Azar
Yeah.
Paul A. Pierce
And he see her with a girl. He be like, hey, how you doing? It's good to see you again. But you never saw her before.
Azar
Like, yeah, that's blowing me. I don't like that. I don't like that.
Paul A. Pierce
Hey. Oh, it's good to see you again. I remember y' all was here, but you was never there.
Azar
And I don't. I don't. I was never there with that. I don't deal with that. Yeah. I get so irritated by that. And I'm gonna be like, what? See? Like, I'm really not the one. Cause I will be like, so you saw him where? Like, you don't want to play with me on that.
Paul A. Pierce
Why do girls do that?
Azar
Because they're distracted. But you know what? Men do that. I noticed that men do. I was just talking about this with my homegirl. I noticed this. Men love to do this, and they don't think we notice this shit, Right?
Paul A. Pierce
Yeah.
Azar
You'll be out, and there'll be, like, multiple women chopping it up with your man. Right? And you'll be right there. No introduction, no nothing. But when a man comes around, oh, this is da, da, da. This is da, da, da, da. But they will not introduce you to the women. And I noticed that when men. Men do that because homegirl was just telling me that. She was like, should I be offended by that? I was like, you know what? I know about that, too. Like, men do that a lot. I don't know if it's subconsciously. Y' all don't even realize it.
Paul A. Pierce
Introduce you to the women, but he.
Azar
Introduced you to all the men. But they'll be chopping with a woman for 30 minutes and not even be like, oh, this is my girl, Lazar. This is da, da, da, da, da.
Paul A. Pierce
Like, do you expect every girl that comes up for your man to say.
Azar
Hey, no, not every girl, but I will. I do notice the difference that, like, when men come up, it's like, oh, this is my girl. But when a woman is around, and it's not every girl, but it's also like, if you're around for a minute and y' all are chopping, you still ain't made an introduction. That's weird. 100%. It's like. It's rude. It's rude. It's rude.
Paul A. Pierce
What's wrong with them?
Azar
I don't know. I don't think you want to. I don't know. Don't say that because you don't know that that's the case, because I've seen that happen a lot. You just think it's disrespectful. You just feel like, damn, like, I'm standing right here for 10 minutes and you're chopping up.
Paul A. Pierce
And you never say, this is my girl or this is your name, but either or.
Azar
But you should make a different introduction or you should make it known for a man. You should wanna say that this is my girl, because you don't want that woman to say something crazy in front of her. Like, I like to make it known. Like, you should make it known. This is my girl.
Paul A. Pierce
It makes me feel like if you say, this is my man. So don't, like, don't say nothing.
Azar
It's not like, don't say nothing.
Paul A. Pierce
Hey, hey, hey, this is my man.
Azar
Like, so you don't want him to say that.
Paul A. Pierce
Like, hey, like, you know what I'm saying?
Azar
I think it's a respect thing, though, too. Like, for me, they could go both ways. But for me, with a man, I feel like, because men are men, it's, like, always, like, with women, it's like, oh, this is my man. This is my man. But I think with men, like, I. And I'm telling you, this is, like, across the board with my homegirls, like, men do this. Like, I'm telling you, you'll peep it. Like, they will not introduce you to the women, but they'll always be like, this is my girl. If it's a man. And it's like, what is that? That's weird to me. And then a woman will literally come out their way and be like, oh, so sorry. Nice to meet you. I know him because of this. Okay, nice to meet you. Like, men do that all the time. All the time. I don't know why y' all do that. It's crazy to me.
Paul A. Pierce
I don't think I ever done that.
Azar
No.
Paul A. Pierce
No.
Azar
Okay, so.
Paul A. Pierce
What'S next on the chopping block? Okay, so, yeah, it's a good one. We talking some good stuff.
Azar
Yeah, we are. So this is a. This is something that I do agree with. Why do men label Latina angry as sexy? Like, oh, she's spicy. She's sexy. But when black women are angry, it's ghetto or aggressive. And I do believe that they. They. And this was, like, really viral on Instagram. Like, this man said this. It's funny because a Mexican man said it, and he was like, it's crazy that Latino women, oh, she's spicy. She's elder. Like, they're always spicy or sexy. And when they're, like, angry because they be having attitudes, like, globally, everyone Knows this. And so it's like, oh, they're spicy, they're sexy. But then when a black woman has an attitude, it's like, oh, you're angry, you're aggressive, you're ghetto. Like, what is that?
Paul A. Pierce
Well, the black woman's attitude is different from other attitudes because black women don't hold back.
Azar
No, Latino women don't hold back.
Paul A. Pierce
Well, Latino women, they don't hold back.
Azar
They'll throw a whole zapato at you, a shoe. Like, they don't hold back. I've seen it firsthand.
Paul A. Pierce
Like, I don't know what that is.
Azar
I've seen it firsthand. Like, they'll be angry, they'll say all type of stuff to you. They'll be disrespectful. And it's like, ooh, she's spicy.
Paul A. Pierce
She don't play that spicy. That's ghetto, too.
Azar
But that's what I'm saying. It's labeled.
Paul A. Pierce
When you do it in public, I don't care what race you are, that's ghetto. Like, don't do it in public. Let's handle this in a private matter. If we in a situation that's ghetto, whether you white, black, Latino, that's ghetto to me, you being ghetto.
Azar
Yeah.
Paul A. Pierce
Regardless, I get that it ain't no race on this. This is like.
Azar
But I'm saying. But you're not saying that. But I'm saying, like, it's a well known thing that Latino women, it's like, ooh, they're spicy and they're.
Paul A. Pierce
This.
Azar
That's how they get labeled. And black women are angry, mad and aggressive.
Paul A. Pierce
Because a Latino woman will get spicy with you and then take you home and take you down. Whereas a black woman would get ghetto with you. And it's gonna be an issue where y' all really gonna be fighting all night. I think the Latino women are gonna get spicy and it's gonna turn into a sexual situation.
Azar
I think that you are justifying it, and that's not right. I think. I don't know if that's.
Paul A. Pierce
I just feel like that's not.
Azar
I don't think that's it.
Paul A. Pierce
I'm going off of him. I'm not going off of my experience, because I don't. I have never experienced that with a Latino woman to where I'm just thinking, like, you know, Latino women as a culture are known to be the most sexual. Women as a culture, they are. Whereas black women as a culture are gonna stand on 10 toes with their attitude more so, you know what I'm saying? They gonna. They gonna stand on 10.
Azar
I just think black women.
Paul A. Pierce
That's not. It's not a judgment. It's just. No, it's just like, homeboy, I'm gonna let you let it know. And we ain't about to. We ain't about to get into nothing after we get into it. Well, I think a Latino woman gonna. They gonna like, argue. It might get it. It might turn into like, end of the night. Cool. That's the only thing. I don't know. I'm just. Maybe just guessing. That's the only thing I can explain for this situation. But other than that, I think that's all ghetto to me. Whether it's black, white, it's all ghetto to me. If you're doing this out in public, like, don't do that.
Azar
We're not even talking about in public. We're talking about in general. I feel like women. Black women get scrutinized and everything that women do face. We can't do nothing because it's going to be judged as, oh, she's aggressive, she's angry. And I'm not going. Because people get mad when I speak as a black woman.
Paul A. Pierce
In general is just differently.
Azar
That's what I'm saying. I get that. And I feel like, again, people get mad when I speak as a black woman. I understand I'm not fully black. I'm. I'm mixed. And I don't get always viewed as a black woman. I get it. So whatever.
Paul A. Pierce
Well, you got to understand, just like I said, black women and black men are viewed differently in society than all the other races, where we can act the same as her, you can act the same as him, but they gonna look at us different and look at it as something different. And that's just what it is. That's what we have to live with. Like, people walk around black people and just get scared. And black men and women, they just go. Because us as a race are just judged that way. And it's unfair and very unfair. But that's just how we are as a society. 100. And there's nothing we can do about it. You know, we're labeled.
Azar
Yeah. I just want us as a society, like, don't have those. Even as black. A black man. Your. Your definition and why you agree. You should have just said it's not right. I'm not saying you agree, but you gonna say they're more sexual. Like, no, it's up people.
Paul A. Pierce
I just said culturally, they're known to.
Azar
To be that. That's fine.
Paul A. Pierce
I didn't say that.
Azar
But regardless, it doesn't matter. The dialogue should be. It shouldn't be that. It's all shouldn't be that. Like, period, point blank, like, 100.
Paul A. Pierce
I agree.
Azar
Like, every other race gets to, like, they get the grace. And then the black women are like, oh, like, I saw a thing of a white man was like, I'll never date a black woman. Because they're attitude and they're up and they're this. And it's like, that's crazy, because there's a lot of black women that will just hold their man down. And then this is another thing.
Paul A. Pierce
Black.
Azar
Black women be going through it culturally. Black men be putting black women through it so hard. We be going through the paint with y' all going through so many ups and downs so much, and we be right here. And I feel like a lot of the time that doesn't look. Get looked at.
Paul A. Pierce
This is what I will say about black women. Black women are the most loyal women.
Azar
Yeah. Statistically. To their own race.
Paul A. Pierce
This is what I will say about. They're the most loyal women to their man. And we are judged unfairly.
Azar
Yeah.
Paul A. Pierce
As a race. And that's just what it is. And. But as a whole, I feel like the black women gonna hold you down, period. Like, 100%. I feel that.
Azar
Hold you down like no other.
Paul A. Pierce
Like no other. I will say that. So, like, that's why, you know, it'd be a issue when we see black strong men dating out a race. And that's why they frowned. That's why we are frowned upon when we date out of race, because it's like, damn.
Azar
Well, I think what happens is with the frowned upon. Dana Rice, I don't think there's a problem dating outside your race. I think the problem stems from dating outside your race while simultaneously putting black woman down and saying that black women are this and that, and that's why you're with this girl. That's the issue. Or a lot of the time, we'll see a black man be with a black woman. Put her through hell and high water. She's been loyal to you. And as soon as he gets successful, leave and get with another race. Those are the things that we see as black women. But I will say I'm all for interracial couples. I think if you want to be with another race, love is love. And I get it. It. I. I'm not even mad at it. Because me. Yeah. Like, get with another race, honey. Because at this point, we put each other through. We'd Be such an agenda war. We hate each other black people. If you go somewhere else and be loved, go somewhere else and be loved. At this point, I don't give a damn.
Paul A. Pierce
I get it.
Azar
Okay, so anyways, let's do some fan questions.
Paul A. Pierce
Let's do some.
Azar
Okay, so if your partner keeps following and liking Thirst Trap but says it means nothing, should it be taken seriously or ignored?
Paul A. Pierce
I think that should be taken seriously. Like, if you're in a relationship you shouldn't be liking. And then you look at the girl, she looking cracking like, damn, you like that. Because if a girl did it, See, this is what we have to do. We have to look at it and put ourselves in the woman's shoes. Because if she liking a man and he on Instagram flexing his muscles and she liking that, it's like, he not like that. That it's like, damn. Like, men have to put ourselves in the woman's shoes More like, seriously, man, we gotta be better at that. We can't be just liking. Oh, it's just a like. And just look at it like it's just something that's like on the outside and just something that's just kind of like not real or just not like a thing. Like, that's like, don't do that. Like, I don't want to be scrolling. I was like, oh, she like this. He over here. He ain't like that. You know, he over here flexing.
Azar
Yeah, that's crazy. That feels crazy. Yeah.
Paul A. Pierce
And I'm not like that. I'm out of shape. I'm doing this. And she liking this. Muscular. That's what's what she like. Like, don't we have to be better at putting ourselves in nature in yalls shoes as women? Like, don't like men. Don't just be. Don't do that. That's disrespectful. Truthfully, that's really disrespectful. So we have to be better at that. I don't like that either. No, that's not good.
Azar
Okay, how do you know the difference between a rough season in a relationship and the wrong person?
Paul A. Pierce
How do you know? Well, you have to start looking at the red flags. Like, the red flags are going to tell you everything. Like, a rough season is like, damn, we went through it. And you know, it was an isolated incident, but if it's always going on. Yeah, like, come on, man, you gotta know the difference. Like, you can't be blinded to the fact that, damn, he keep making the same mistakes or she keep making the Same mistakes. And we blinded by love or we blinded by the sex or we blinded by whatever it is that we love the person for. You have to understand, like, what. This is the thing we have to understand. What's the difference between love and lust? Because there's a lot of relationships that's built on lust. You know what I'm saying? It's like, dude, we love each other because it's sexual. But, like, you know, at the end of the day, do you look at, like, the values, the morals we have for one another, the, like, the real shit that matters, you know what I'm saying? Like, you have to start looking at, like, what really matters. Like, what does he do to make me feel like I'm that girl or I'm that guy? Like, if I'm on my deathbed or I'm going through it, how do they. You have to look at those signs. Like, when we going through it, how does he treat me? Like, when we're dealing with a situation and a man who always. He fuck up, he get mad all the time. It's like, like what? Why are you mad?
Azar
Yeah, I can't. I can't.
Paul A. Pierce
Like, why are you mad when someone.
Azar
Is mad when they up. That blows me. And that's my biggest thing about, like, you're mad because I'm hurt. Like, that you did some shit to me that I'm trying to work through. Like, that's gonna blow me. Like, I can't even be sad.
Paul A. Pierce
Little things like that. Then. Then you don't see the sign. For real. Like, seriously, Like. Like, come on. Like. Like, I seen some stuff on social media to where dude caught his girl and she was like, what? Like, got mad at him. Like, wait, you. You up. Like, what the are you mad at? She don't. She don't mess with you, though. You need to end it right there. If she come back and you take her back, like, you. You up, like, nah, that ain't it.
Azar
Okay. I'm dating a man, and he says he's not ready for a relationship, but he still acts like my boyfriend.
Paul A. Pierce
Red flag.
Azar
Should I stay or leave? Leave. I'm gonna tell you to leave a million times.
Paul A. Pierce
Like what you really want. You want longevity?
Azar
Yeah.
Paul A. Pierce
You just want something just to pass you by or something that's just gonna be. Not permanent? No, no, no, no. Like, no. If that's what you want, get what you want, girl. Move on.
Azar
Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with that. 100.
Paul A. Pierce
100.
Azar
Okay. Well, thank you guys so much for joining us. The Truth After Dark, man.
Paul A. Pierce
The Truth After Dark. Check us out. We're doing big things. Make sure you follow, like, subscribe. It really goes a major long way.
Azar
It does. Paul got the feet out today.
Paul A. Pierce
I do got the feet.
Azar
He got the hookah. His vibes. Right, honey?
Paul A. Pierce
Right, Right. This is true After Dark. This is the vibes. Hey, make sure you continue to watch us check out the vibes. And if you got questions, make sure you send us to our DMS at Truth After Dark. Follow us. We going to have more live shows going. We want you to attend, man. We doing it.
Azar
We doing it.
Paul A. Pierce
Thanks for joining.
Azar
Thank.
Paul A. Pierce
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Date: February 16, 2026
Host: Paul A. Pierce (The Truth)
Co-host: Azar
This episode of Club Shay Shay, "Romance Is Dead! | Truth After Dark," dives deep into modern dating dynamics, the evolving concept of romance, and gender expectations in relationships. The hosts—ex-NBA star Paul Pierce and co-host Azar—debate whether romance has truly died among the younger generation, the blurred boundaries between "bare minimum" and "princess treatment," celebrity relationship scandals (especially the Cardi B-Stefon Diggs situation), and cultural perceptions of women’s attitudes. The conversation is straightforward, lively, and unfiltered, balancing humor and realness throughout.
Quote:
"You gotta be with an old school to know." — Paul A. Pierce (03:00)
"Are the old school doing it?…Are they lighting candles and running baths and doing rose petals? Yeah, they are." — Azar (03:11)
Notable Moment:
Azar vocalizes the pain of public embarrassment, while Pierce asserts that status doesn’t shield anyone from being treated as “work.”
"Just because you a celebrity, that don't mean you work. And it looked like she was some work." — Paul A. Pierce (10:01)
"Don't listen to a man's words. Listen to his actions. ... You can't fool my eyes." — Paul A. Pierce (13:52–14:20)
"Romance is doing the things you don't normally do. Because when it's every day, it's not romance." (18:46–19:51)
Quote:
"If it costs money, a lot of money, that's not romance. Romance is thoughtful." — Paul A. Pierce (24:51)
A rapid-fire game where Azar reads out common gestures and the hosts debate whether each is bare minimum or “princess” treatment:
Notable Moment:
Azar emphasizes consistency:
“Don’t introduce me to a vibe you cannot maintain. Honey, I’m not tripping off the door opening thing ... but I think flowers are nice... every woman likes flowers.” — Azar (36:11)
"Men have to put ourselves in the woman's shoes more… Truthfully, that's really disrespectful." — Paul A. Pierce (73:31–74:49)
“You have to start looking at the red flags. The red flags are going to tell you everything.” — Paul A. Pierce (74:58)
"If that's what you want, get what you want, girl. Move on." — Azar (77:42)
On Trust and Actions:
"You could fool me by what you say to me, but you can't fool my eyes."
— Paul A. Pierce (14:01–14:20)
On Romance:
"Romance is like something different that you don’t normally do… It was romantic and sexy... Doing the things you don’t normally do."
— Paul A. Pierce (19:19–20:28)
On Double Standards:
"Black women be going through it culturally. Black men be putting black women through it so hard… Black women are the most loyal women."
— Paul A. Pierce (71:16–72:05)
On Consistency:
"Don’t introduce me to a vibe you cannot maintain."
— Azar (36:11)
The conversation is candid, sometimes contentious, but always authentic. Paul A. Pierce brings “old school” bravado and humor, while Azar offers sharp, modern insights, especially on women’s experiences. They challenge each other and the audience to reevaluate what romance really means, stress the importance of consistent and thoughtful gestures, and expose hypocrisy in dating expectations.
For anyone wondering what’s wrong (and right) with modern romance—and how men and women really feel about the rules—this episode is a must-listen.
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