Super Bowl LX Radio Row Day 2: Part 1 - AD Mitchell, Jay Glazer & Kirk Herbstreit join!

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Super Bowl LX Radio Row Day 2: Part 1

Date: February 5, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (with James DeBo Harris and Joe Hayden contributing)
Guests: Jay Glazer, AD Mitchell, Kirk Herbstreit

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay takes place live from Super Bowl LX's Radio Row, with Shannon Sharpe, co-hosts James DeBo Harris and Joe Hayden, and a rotating cast of star guests. The day is filled with candid conversations about Super Bowl week life, athlete routines, mental health in sports, inside looks at NFL reporting, college football’s changing landscape, bouncing back from adversity, and some lighthearted personal stories. The roster features Fox Sports insider Jay Glazer, New York Jets receiver AD Mitchell, and beloved college/NFL commentator Kirk Herbstreit, offering listeners a blend of behind-the-scenes football insight, motivational talk, and relatable locker room humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Super Bowl Week: Vibes, Routines, and Recovery

(02:18 – 05:35)

• DeBo, Rob Gronkowski, and Joe Hayden kick off talking about adjusting to the West Coast, late nights at the Shay Shay party, surviving tough workouts, and lingering soreness.
• Gronk shares old-man struggles: “I got a hip impingement, Debo, and it’s been happening for a while. … My hip flexors are just a little too tight." (03:30)
• The crew pokes fun at each other’s water-drinking habits and delivery mishaps.

2. The Value of Relationships in Sports Reporting

(11:08 – 16:19)
Guest: Jay Glazer (NFL Insider)

• Glazer emphasizes building genuine relationships, not just chasing scoops: “Everybody tries to go for the scoop instead of the relationship. … I think these guys all use their pen as a weapon. I’m going to start relationships.” (12:16)
• He recounts starting out with “no education, no experience” and leaning on work ethic and friendships (notably with Michael Strahan).
• On breaking news: Jay prefers dropping exclusive stories on TV instead of racing to tweet, aiming to give fans something Twitter can’t steal—“That’s not being an insider, that says who can tweet fastest.” (16:19)

3. Mental Health: Vulnerability and Brotherhood

(17:13 – 19:51)

• Jay describes why openness about mental health is essential in pro sports, highlighting the importance of brotherhood among athletes:

  • “If you could be vulnerable and open up, those people will be there for you when you’re 25, 35, 55, 75. That’s it right there. And that’s how we’re going to survive in this world.” (19:42)
  • Mentions “the Rock,” Michael Phelps, and Sean McVay as part of a personal support group.

• honest take on overuse of mental health “excuses”:

  • Jay admits, “It is hard for me to get out of bed every day of my life. That sickness is what makes me great. But I’ll never miss a day of work. I’ll never let that thing win.” (23:30)

4. Hall of Fame Voting & Inside Baseball

(24:06 – 25:10)

• The crew debates why Bill Belichick isn’t a first-ballot Hall of Famer, with Jay supporting the idea that “first-ballot guys should vote for first-ballot guys.”
• “It shouldn’t be these writers who got a score to settle because someone wasn’t media friendly with me.” (24:40)

5. Transition to TV, Diagnosing ADHD, and the Athlete’s Mind

(25:27 – 27:42)

• Jay Glazer talks about his own neurodivergence diagnosis and how he finally found effective medication for his ADHD after years of searching:
  • “If I’m not interested in something, it’s like drowning. … I finally found something called Kelb … it kind of cuts it down to two roommates in my head so I can relax, go to bed.” (25:36-27:42)

6. Jets WR AD Mitchell: On Trades, Adversity, & Type 1 Diabetes

(28:08 – 34:39)

• Mitchell discusses the surprise and validation of being traded:
  • “It just feel good to be wanted, you know? More so than not being wanted anymore.” (29:12)
• Highlights the importance of learning from elite teammates like Garrett Wilson.
• On owning mistakes and resilience after a high-profile fumble in college:
  • “Sometimes that thing is the hardest thing to do. But in the league, when you a man, I just want to let you know respect you and you came out and keep ballin’.” – Gronk, (31:03)
• Mitchell reveals his journey managing Type 1 diabetes, promoting the Dexcom G7 monitor: “This kind of came in my life and changed the game for me.” (32:52)
• He explains how it syncs to his phone for constant monitoring, shifting from finger pricks: “As a diabetic, you usually prick your finger, then take a shot. … It’s a Bluetooth device … every five minutes, it’ll send you an alert.” (33:48)

7. College Football Evolution: NIL, Transfers, & Player Development

(41:09 – 44:09)
Guest: Kirk Herbstreit

• Herbstreit discusses how NIL and the transfer portal widen the “haves and have-nots” gap and disrupt team building.
  • “If you had a great freshman or sophomore year, Florida’s coming down and they’re going to give you game-changing money … hard for a group-of-four team to keep their roster together.” (41:28)
• Expresses concern for players’ long-term growth and loyalty with constant transfers.
• “I feel bad for them long term because they don’t have any roots with where they are.” (44:09)

8. College-to-Pro Transition & Young Players' Fundamentals

(49:34 – 52:31)

• Herbstreit argues many young players lack basic skills due to AAU-like approaches, seven-on-seven, and neglect of fundamentals.
  • “Instead of getting in the mud and learning the fundamentals of the game, I think there’s so much flash and hype on social media.” (51:35)
• Sharpe and Hayden reminisce about learning the “why” behind defensive assignments, crediting coaches like Dick LeBeau and Coach Butler for emphasizing total defensive understanding (53:32).

9. Player Development and Coaches' Responsibility in the NFL

(66:12 – 67:41)

• Hosts debate whether NFL struggles to develop QBs come down to coaching failures more than player limitations.
• Gronk summarizes:
  • “I think it’s a development problem and … some coaches aren’t that good. … Like, ‘he’s not doing nothing, (he’s) not good enough.’ Prime example—Sam Darnold.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On building trust in reporting:
  “We’re just in sports, man. I’m not covering the Middle East. Like, don’t take ourselves too seriously.” – Jay Glazer (12:33)

• On mental health brotherhood:
  “That’s not friend. That’s a brotherhood. ‘I will not kill myself, I promise you.’” – Jay Glazer (18:54)

• On adapting to trades:
  “It just feel good to be wanted, you know? More so than not being wanted anymore.” – AD Mitchell (29:12)

• On Super Bowl watching preferences:
  “I’m going, Game 7, basketball championship, floor, courtside. … Basketball games are the funnest thing I could go to.” – Joe Hayden (58:52)

• On what really makes a defensive player special:
  “If my coach is Joe Hayden … I seen greatness and now he’s coaching, it’s an automatic buy-in … players are wide open to taking in the information.” – James DeBo Harris (55:41)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Topic/Segment | Guest/Speaker | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------------|----------------------|---------------| | Introduction and party recap | Gronk, DeBo, Hayden | 02:18-05:35 | | Athlete routines and sore hips | Gronk | 03:09-03:39 | | Water delivery & travel stories | Gronk, DeBo | 06:04-07:51 | | Jay Glazer on sports journalism | Glazer | 11:08-16:19 | | Mental health/brotherhood | Glazer | 17:13-19:51 | | Mental health “excuses” discussion | Glazer, DeBo | 19:51-23:56 | | Hall of Fame voting debate | Glazer, DeBo | 24:06-25:10 | | Glazer’s ADHD journey | Glazer | 25:27-27:42 | | AD Mitchell on being traded & learning from WRs | AD Mitchell | 28:44-30:48 | | Admitting mistakes & growth | Gronk, AD Mitchell | 31:03-31:18 | | Managing Type 1 diabetes as an athlete | AD Mitchell | 32:52-33:48 | | Kirk Herbstreit on NIL & transfer portal effects | Herbstreit | 41:09-44:09 | | Fundamentals gap in young players | Herbstreit | 49:34-52:31 | | Defensive communication & coaching | Sharpe, Hayden | 53:32-55:41 | | NFL QB development/coaching failures | Gronk, DeBo | 66:12-67:41 |

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Additional Highlights

• Funny moment: Gronk jokes about not letting DeBo disrupt his fasting routine: “You had me out all night eating. … That sets back my 16 hours where I need to fast and get my body to adjust.” (05:48)
• Dog lovers: Kirk Herbstreit brings his dog Pete; Spruce pet-friendly weed killer gets a plug.
• Interactive Q&A: The hosts answer questions about favorite Super Bowl moments, dream sporting events to attend, and receiver/cornerback matchups (“Who wins: JSN or Gonzalez?”), blending detailed football analysis with locker room banter.

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Bottom Line:
This episode is packed with candor and chemistry—mixing football wisdom, media and mental health insight, and plenty of jokes and personality. Whether you want to understand what really sets NFL insiders and players apart, or just enjoy the honest, unfiltered talk between football friends, Club Shay Shay’s Super Bowl Radio Row delivers.

Transcript

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[Rob Gronkowski]

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[James DeBo Harris]

Welcome to this episode of Deebo and Joe. I'm your host James Debo Harris and I'm here with my co host Joe Hayden. Sir, look here, baby. Please make sure you like subscribe and download the show wherever you get your podcast. I'm gonna mute this so y' all can't hear, man. Yes, sir. Look here, man. We live from radio Row here Super Bowl 6.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes, sir. Joe what's up, Debo?

[James DeBo Harris]

How you doing today?

[Rob Gronkowski]

I'm doing great, brother. Doing great. I'm not too sore from yesterday. Great workout, you know, not too crazy. A little core, a little. The cardio was crazy. I was thinking before we went out there, you said we got an hour on the treadmill, and I'm like, there's no way I can do an hour on a treadmill. No matter what elevation. The miles an hour. Heart rate was going, but I knew I could do it because I wasn't going to let myself down from doing a treadmill walk with you.

[Jake Glazer]

No question.

[Rob Gronkowski]

No question, bro. It was good work. Good work.

[James DeBo Harris]

How'd you feel, though?

[Rob Gronkowski]

I felt great. I felt great. The great sweat, great. Everything, brother. I felt. I felt amazing. Core is good. Looking good, feeling good. Great core workout too, but that's what I'm trying to. My hips a little tight. You saw. You saw the little drill. When I'm kicking my legs up that hip bag.

[James DeBo Harris]

He was talking about how you kicking that leg in.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Because my hips.

[James DeBo Harris]

Tell them what's going on.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I got a hip impingement, Debo, and it's been happening for a while. I need to get rehab on and some treatment, but yeah, my hip flexors are just a little too tight.

[James DeBo Harris]

Okay.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I gotta loosen them up. I'm gonna get some treatment, get some rehab. Gotta get the dry needling.

[James DeBo Harris]

I understand. You have a good time last night?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes, yes, yes. Shay. Shay. Party was dope. Got to see a lot of friends. Stephen a. Was there, T.J. ward, Richard Sherman. Running in the dudes is always, always a good time.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah, definitely. So I ran into a couple people, but it's kind of hard to talk to people there. Like they. They in your ear.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You can't really hear. You can't really hear.

[James DeBo Harris]

So.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, yeah, because I got. Get into the mic, scoot up closer. Yeah, get in there saying they can't hear us.

[James DeBo Harris]

They saying they can't hear us. Can y' all hear us now? Can you hear me?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Good, good. All right.

[James DeBo Harris]

Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? All right, so we got that. We did that. Hey, what time did you get out of there?

[Rob Gronkowski]

That time I get out of. I saw you make a. The Irish exit. You ain't say bye to nobody. I thought you was going to the bathroom and then you just slid. So you probably left around 11:30. I was there probably 20, 20 more minutes after I got it at night. I ain't stay out too late. Midnight. Midnight. Cuz we had to be up here Shooting.

[James DeBo Harris]

This is.

[Rob Gronkowski]

This is 8 o'.

[James DeBo Harris]

Clock.

[Rob Gronkowski]

This is 8 o'. Clock. Shoot. Waking up 6 o' clock in the morning is different than back. Back on the East Coast. Yeah.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah, for sure, man. I got out of there, I looked at my clock, it was 10:59. I told somebody, I said, we about to be out of here at 11. As soon as it clicked 11, I said, hey, it's time to go. By time I looked down, got everything going, you know, it was 11, 11, I was out the door. Great time.

[Rob Gronkowski]

11, 11, 11, 11. You was out of there.

[James DeBo Harris]

11 11.

[Rob Gronkowski]

What time was you sleep?

[James DeBo Harris]

That I don't know, because I was contemplating. Should I go and get up? Yeah, go ahead. I got you. Yeah. So should I go and get up and try and keep my east coast time?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Because you're still on that clock. Did you change it? Did you change the clock? Did you change the clock yet? Are you still okay? Okay.

[James DeBo Harris]

That one o'.

[Jake Glazer]

Clock.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Get up, you was getting over one o'.

[Jake Glazer]

Clock.

[Rob Gronkowski]

It's crazy.

[James DeBo Harris]

One o'. Clock. Get up. Kind of hurt. Yeah. I'm saying, especially, you know, when you.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Had me out all night eating.

[James DeBo Harris]

You know what I'm saying? Like, and that sets back my 16 hours where I need to fast and, you know, get my body to adjust.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah, okay. No, for sure. So my bad, my bad. Throwing off your schedule.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah, you threw all my skills. That's all right, though.

[Rob Gronkowski]

It's all good.

[James DeBo Harris]

That's all right.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Because what about the video, though, about your man throwing all the damn. All your waters on your. On your driveway? I. I couldn't believe when you posted it. I thought it was fake. I thought it was like. No, I know those are your type waters because, you know, when we got here, you went to the grocery store and you got 30 gallons of water.

[James DeBo Harris]

No, I went number like three, four cases. Liter and a half.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You're a hydrated man.

[James DeBo Harris]

I'm hydr.

[Rob Gronkowski]

But your man disrespected. He was throwing them drugs all over your damn doorstep.

[James DeBo Harris]

Listen, what's good with them? They got it. They got to be playing. They got. You got to play that.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Got to shout a video with Amazon, man.

[James DeBo Harris]

He was a little upset that I ordered. What wasn't it, five cases of water?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes.

[James DeBo Harris]

I mean, it's cheaper on there. That's why you order it on there.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And he said, but that's what one thing that gets me, too. You're supposed to be delivering the stuff.

[Jake Glazer]

Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You bagged it in and you. You just throwing it all on you on Your doorstep.

[James DeBo Harris]

Dropping it hard. Disrespecting it hard.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Too disrespectful.

[James DeBo Harris]

Hit me with the CU next Tuesday, too.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[James DeBo Harris]

You know what I'm saying? But I don't. I don't think. I don't think he know because, you know, I had. I. I had my packages dropped in different names. I never put my name.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah, it don't say James Harrison.

[James DeBo Harris]

No, no, it don't.

[Rob Gronkowski]

That don't say, like, Rob.

[Jake Glazer]

Rob.

[James DeBo Harris]

He got.

[Rob Gronkowski]

It.

[James DeBo Harris]

Got some. He got some felonious, like. Okay, respect, out of control names. You know what I'm saying? So he came and he dropped the first two, and he. He really wasn't that upset about the first two, but the next two he dropped. Yeah, he was like, just. Just. Yeah, yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Why don't you.

[James DeBo Harris]

Why don't you. Yeah, yeah, let's do it. He's the last one, though, that he dropped, dude. Oh, he was. Yeah, he was hot about that.

[Rob Gronkowski]

He left with the. He left.

[James DeBo Harris]

He left it to see you next Tuesday.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, he's pissed.

[James DeBo Harris]

Oh, dude.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Are you going now? You're gonna order more, though?

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah, I'm gonna order 10 next time. Hey, to the Amazon driver out there that dropped the water at my house. Listen, I'm going to order 10 cases for you next time, so get yourself in the weight room. You're gonna have a lot of work to do. What y' all want me to do? You want me to drop this mic or something? You want me to lift the mic? What you want? It's close. It's close enough or too close? Okay, man, I gotta have my mic. Mic. So close to. Y' all need to get some better mics. What you mean, tilt it down? Tilt down like that? That good? That cool? Up a little more.

[Rob Gronkowski]

There you go. Here. Perfect, perfect.

[James DeBo Harris]

Listen, so look here, man. Yes, brother. I just got a. I just got a phone call right from my son.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Okay.

[James DeBo Harris]

All right.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Is everything okay?

[James DeBo Harris]

Everything okay? He got into a little altercation.

[Rob Gronkowski]

A little.

[James DeBo Harris]

I ain't even gonna get.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Let's not even get into. No, no, don't.

[James DeBo Harris]

I want to find out who his daddy is. So I go see him. I want to find out who the kid. He had the issue. I'll find out who his daddy is.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah, yeah.

[James DeBo Harris]

That ain't something that you.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You know, when you do something like.

[James DeBo Harris]

That, that's something you done. You either got from your friends or you done learned at home, you know what I'm saying?

[Jake Glazer]

And you.

[James DeBo Harris]

You go ahead and you regurgitate that, you know? Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

So if some. Okay. You know, I want you to get. Don't get. Don't get. Don't get too mad right now, though. I know. Be held accountable for sure. You can't just get away with doing stuff for no reason. There's. There's consequences.

[James DeBo Harris]

And then it upset me, like, he didn't follow pro. My son didn't follow protocol. Protocol is they touch you.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, he put his hands on your son first, bro.

[James DeBo Harris]

You touch. You touch. You touch.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Keep your hands to yourself.

[James DeBo Harris]

But then after that, I don't stop until somebody pulled me off. He ain't follow protocol.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Okay, because you was a little hot at your son.

[James DeBo Harris]

I'm hot at the whole situation.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You had the whole situation. Whole situation. I'm hot.

[James DeBo Harris]

I'm hot. I am hot. I ain't going to lie.

[Jake Glazer]

I'm hot.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You know, don't even. Don't even let.

[Jake Glazer]

Don't let.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Get. Don't let it get to you, brother.

[James DeBo Harris]

I ain't gonna lie.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You'll be all right.

[James DeBo Harris]

You supposed to, like, I'm supposed to be getting a call like, hey, you know, he need a lawyer or something.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You know, he put hands on my son.

[James DeBo Harris]

It took five teachers to get him up off of my son. You know what I'm saying? Like, you go learn this.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Repercussions and consequences to your action.

[James DeBo Harris]

Consequences out here, Joe, man, I just don't. I don't understand it, man.

[Rob Gronkowski]

What's good, Debo, bruh.

[James DeBo Harris]

Go ahead. I'm gonna switch. I'm switching. Let's go.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I need your energy to get right, because I'm getting mad about the sun and all that, but, you know, he's gonna be good. He gonna be good. We out here Radio Row, super bowl week, feeling good, hanging out. Yesterday was a great time. Last night was a great time. What was your best part of the party?

[James DeBo Harris]

My.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Your favorite part of the party?

[James DeBo Harris]

My favorite part of the party?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes.

[James DeBo Harris]

Listen, the music was.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Music was good.

[James DeBo Harris]

Music was good. Music was good.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I had a good time. I mean, our conversation with Stephen A. Was lit. I had a good time when we was talking, when we chopped it up. With Stephen A. Yeah. I told you, you know, it is what it is. He gets it.

[James DeBo Harris]

He gets it.

[Jake Glazer]

He gets it.

[Rob Gronkowski]

He gets you.

[James DeBo Harris]

Would you. Would you. You'd be surprised at what you know, but you don't know. But, you know, just, you know, from reading in between the lines. You feel me?

[Rob Gronkowski]

If you know, you know, if you know, you know. Okay, there we go.

[James DeBo Harris]

Oh, my.

[Jake Glazer]

There we go.

[James DeBo Harris]

We got.

[Rob Gronkowski]

We got our good Man. Jake.

[James DeBo Harris]

Hey, Glaze.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Mr. J.

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How you doing?

[Rob Gronkowski]

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[Jake Glazer]

How you doing, baby? Doing good?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes, sir. Welcome.

[Jake Glazer]

Jay, let's crack him, man.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Nothing much. Nothing much.

[Jake Glazer]

Not a lot of Alice up here, though.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes, for sure.

[James DeBo Harris]

I don't know why you ain't put.

[Rob Gronkowski]

That whatever you want.

[Jake Glazer]

The sponsors are.

[James DeBo Harris]

I don't know. I don't know. I guess I ain't seen the check from them, but I guess it's us.

[Jake Glazer]

Maybe I'll get you guys paid down for this.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You put whatever you want up there. Jay.

[James DeBo Harris]

Hey, man, we want to thank you for joining us here, man.

[Jake Glazer]

Absolutely.

[James DeBo Harris]

We know you've been doing what you've been doing for a long time. And you.

[Jake Glazer]

93?

[James DeBo Harris]

Yes. Yes.

[Jake Glazer]

No, 91 was my first draft. Draft. Yeah, yeah. 91. How about that?

[James DeBo Harris]

Wow. Joe wasn't even born.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes, I was. I was 2. 2. I was 89, Jay. That's crazy.

[Jake Glazer]

That's actually in that draft, I was, like, rolling around, you know, Joe and his, like, little crib and stuff.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah, Yeah, I like that.

[James DeBo Harris]

I like that.

[Rob Gronkowski]

My baby, my D. Yeah.

[James DeBo Harris]

You know, you had a long time build great relationships here.

[Jake Glazer]

No doubt. So that's what it's about, man. Relationships. You know, everybody tries to go for the scoop instead of the relationship.

[James DeBo Harris]

Exactly. Why?

[Jake Glazer]

Why? They got it wrong.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah, yeah. Why? Why is that? That you're, you know, you're okay with waiting to. To get the story out correct instead of trying to go ahead and jump there and be the first one.

[Jake Glazer]

Yeah. You know, when I started covering The Giants in 93, I walked in that giant locker room, and I'm like, man, how could. How could I be different? I had no education. I got kicked out of my first college. I had, like, no education, no experience from, like, how could I be different? Well, one thing I could do is I'm always looking to fight, you know? So I'm like, all right, if These guys work 40 hours a week, I'll work a hundred. Just non stop, non stop, non stop. But also, I looked and said, man, how could I be different? I think these guys all use their pen as a weapon. I'm gonna start relationships. And look, we're just in sports, man. I'm not covering the Middle East. Like, don't take ourselves too seriously. Right, right. So I started relationships, and my best friend, obviously, since day one, was my baby sister, Michael Strahan. You know, that was.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yes.

[Jake Glazer]

Out of the gate. Right. And. And it's funny, because back then, I. I was making 9, 400 bucks a year, and I didn't have enough money. I was living in New York City. I didn't have another. Not in great areas. And I didn't have enough to take subway to a bus to Giant Stadium back every day. So Stray drove me back into New York City. He lived in Jersey. Yeah, Every single day from 93 to 99. And the days he didn't, Kurt Menifee did. She was our host. Right. So. But no doubt, right? And here we are all working together. And so I own like 38 grand Lincoln Tunnel Fair.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, for sure.

[Jake Glazer]

But back then, too, it was just like these relationships. And you guys have heard me talk a lot about mental health now. And what people never got is I need teams for here to get the roommates in my head to talk nicely to each other.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yes.

[Jake Glazer]

You guys were all part of my team. You know, I'll never forget Dan Quinn, man. Probably about eight years ago, I'm at the height, like, I'm. I'm on year four of Ballers. I'm hosting ufc, I'm number one insider and Fox Anvil Sunday. And I'm up my training camp tour that I always go to. Right. For years, right? You guys see and. And DQ's like, what are you doing here? That's what you mean? That's what I do. He goes, no, what are you doing here? I said, what do you mean? He said, haven't you moved up and on for this? I said, bro, there is no up and on for this. You guys are my male love. You guys in the fight world or my male love? Like, there's no up and on for this. So that's really where the relationships came from. I always looked at us like we're on one team, you know?

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, I love that, man. Because that's the biggest part. When you really build that real gentle, a genuine friendship, you feel like people are looking out for.

[Jake Glazer]

Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And you're that guy.

[Jake Glazer]

And listen, I've. I've had tough stories and some friends. Like, I broke all the BALCO stuff, a bunch of my guys were using, you know, and I'm like, hey, you rather I put it out than somebody else?

[Rob Gronkowski]

For sure.

[Jake Glazer]

I'm gonna go right down the middle, you know?

[James DeBo Harris]

Right.

[Rob Gronkowski]

What would you say? Is there any scoop that you had that somebody kind of, like, got out right before you, that you would kind of.

[Jake Glazer]

Oh, it happens all the time. Because I wait for Fox Animal Sunday. So, like, this year, it happened a couple times. So, like, this year, I was going to report Brandon Graham was coming out of retirement. No one knew. And it got out, man, maybe seven minutes before O. Cuz I was. Because I go on it. At what time's our show? Nine. Yeah, yeah, nine o'. Clock. Right. So. So it got out like 8:52. I'm like, damn. But that's what. Because, because listen, the business has changed now. What I want to make sure I do is I break stuff on FOX NFL Sunday that nobody has ever heard. And you will, man. You're coming out of left field with this. We're on where I used to do it, the way people do it now is you broke news. Everybody steals it on Twitter. I'm working Twitter work for Fox. Right. And that's not breaking news. That's. That's not being an insider that says who could tweet fastest.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Yeah.

[Jake Glazer]

Why can't tweet faster than anybody else. Right. So I'm going to have stuff on that nobody else has. Like a couple weeks ago, you know, Matt Ryan's on the CBS show are opposite us and I come on to. Hey, the Atlanta Falcons are looking to hire Matt Ryan to be their new president of football operations. That came out of left field and obviously that's what's happened. Right, so. Or I came on with the security report that DK Metcalf had fired you.

[James DeBo Harris]

I broke that before for you, but you got it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I broke that before you, but you actually went on front, you know what I'm saying? Go ahead, baby.

[Jake Glazer]

But I say that same show I broke, I had the actual security report that DK Metcalf had filed with the Seahawks about that same fan in Detroit the year before. It had all that. Right. So that's stuff that you can't just steal from me on Twitter. So no matter what on Fox interval Sunday, I want to make it. Must watch.

[James DeBo Harris]

You know, I just knew of it. I had a report.

[Rob Gronkowski]

He went and did that research. But I know you're real big on the mental health aspect. How do you think about. How do you feel like the professional athletes present like the issues. Do you think they need to be a little bit more open?

[Jake Glazer]

So. Oh, by far. So it's funny because I go, you know, and you look, I've trained you in mma, right?

[Rob Gronkowski]

That's yes. Unbreakable. Unbreakable, right.

[Jake Glazer]

And for my. Our whole thing, right, is man, if you were hurt and tired, you will never, ever, ever know.

[James DeBo Harris]

Right?

[Jake Glazer]

We will sit there and we'll ramp pressure and ramp pressure and ramp pressure and ramp pressure and you may get it. You Made it. We're not going to show it. Not going to show it. Not going to show it. And you need that unbreakable mindset on a cage on a football field. But now we need a whole other unbreakable mindset off that field, off that cage where you do show, you do chime in, you do tell people. And I think it's a scarier world than ever before. Social media makes us whole thing to our lives suck. Oh, we're comparing ourselves to everybody else's filtered freaking highlight. One second of one day and we feel so left out. And. Or listen, I grew up in a Jersey shore. Well, I got my ass kicked in Jersey Shore growing up. It sucked for a month. Now you're getting your ass kicked 100 times a minute on X.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes.

[Jake Glazer]

You know?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes.

[Jake Glazer]

So I think the more you do open up, these, these. I always say these friendships have become brotherhoods. Like this. She has braces. Right here is my most prized possession. It's given me by Michael Phelps. Michael's my dude, but now when I have a meltdown, I FaceTime him. It could be hard. When he has a meltdown, he facetimes me. But this was a promise that he will never quit life. That's a brotherhood. Oh, excuse. Can I curse on this show?

[James DeBo Harris]

Yep.

[Jake Glazer]

Okay. That's a brotherhood.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Thousand percent.

[Jake Glazer]

That's not friend. That's a brotherhood. I will not kill myself, I promise you. You I'm in. Right. And we get like this. And now we've created this text chain where all the guys who help me. So the Rock is one of them. He's one. Sean McVeigh is one. The smash machine, who's my training partner. Who the Rock just did a movie on Mark Kerr. He's won. Andrew Whitworth's won. Dan Quinn's one. And when any of us are struggling, we reach out to the group and we're there. When Sean lost the other day, man, we deployed for him. You know, Michael had a really bad meltdown last week. We deployed for him. We were all there for him. So that's taken our friendships to a much different level. And I think that's. Listen, I think if you could be vulnerable and open up.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes.

[Jake Glazer]

That those people will be there for you when you're 25, 35, 55, 75. That's it right there. And that's how we're going to survive in this world.

[Rob Gronkowski]

A thousand percent.

[James DeBo Harris]

So I'm. I'm all in and good with the. The mental health thing. You know, the real issues of many but how much of that mental health now is you think is being overused? Because I think yeah, some of it is being overused. Like you know, I feel I got you driving to work because it's raining, I got you nervous and all that. And they're using that to to get off being able from having to go into work and everything else.

[Jake Glazer]

I hear you on that and like saw my so I have clinical depression, anxiety, adhd, bipolar, ocd, anxiety, insomnia. Other than that, I'm a model of stability.

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[Rob Gronkowski]

I don't know.

[Jake Glazer]

And it's, it is hard for me to get out of bed every day of my life. That sickness is what makes me great. But I'll never miss a day of work. I'll never let that thing win. Ever, ever, ever. I will fight it. Some days it's harder than others. So I get what you're saying, right? I've made the decision where I'm not going to let it beat me and I'm always going to fight back. So I hope more people can, can get like that. But you know, again, not, not everybody's me.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Jake Glazer]

You know, for sure.

[James DeBo Harris]

Look here, look here. You, you got the inside, inside scoop. So why, why didn't they really let Bill in there?

[Jake Glazer]

I'm not on the.

[James DeBo Harris]

Come on now you got somebody.

[Jake Glazer]

I'm not a commitment.

[James DeBo Harris]

You got relationships. Somebody got a relationship with those cats.

[Jake Glazer]

Let me enter committee. Are you serious? Never let me in.

[James DeBo Harris]

Do you think they please let these writers be the only people that vote on.

[Jake Glazer]

No, absolutely not. And I've always said that. Why no, absolutely it should be, but it's not now. Now it's the Tony Dungeons and Bill Polings and. But it should be.

[James DeBo Harris]

It should be. I think it should be a committee of guys that are already in there that, that, that especially like first ballot.

[Jake Glazer]

I like that idea.

[James DeBo Harris]

Like first ballot guy should vote for first ballot guy.

[Jake Glazer]

I love that idea.

[James DeBo Harris]

It shouldn't be these Writers who got a score to settle because so and so wasn't media friendly with me.

[Jake Glazer]

I love that idea. I haven't heard that yet and I freaking love it. I support that idea.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Did you think it was about the gates? You think it's just gatekeeping?

[Jake Glazer]

No, no, please. Like, I think they're using an excuse. But if he's not in the first ballot, then no coach ever should be in.

[Rob Gronkowski]

That's. That's what I'm saying.

[James DeBo Harris]

He's not in. Crap. Not in. I don't know. They might pull the pistol one time and tell him, hold up.

[Rob Gronkowski]

That'd be great.

[Jake Glazer]

No, that's not saying.

[James DeBo Harris]

I'm just saying I'm trying to tell you.

[Jake Glazer]

No, no.

[James DeBo Harris]

When I went there, I wanted to. Hate to do. Yeah, but I couldn't.

[Jake Glazer]

You couldn't, right?

[James DeBo Harris]

He's the best. I couldn't.

[Jake Glazer]

I. Dude, I love him. I work with him. I love Dude. And he works his ass off.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yes.

[Jake Glazer]

Being a broadcaster, he works his ass off.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah. Well, look, I'm gonna ask you about Coach T right before you get off. How do you think about. Would you. So Coach T stepped off from coaching. Do you think he's going to come back to coaching?

[Jake Glazer]

No, he's going to do TV right now. I don't think he's going to. He's going to come back. But that's. I talked to him yesterday, two days ago. Right now he's hanging out with Harley, having a good time. He's being dad, trying to get himself in shape. He went through a lot in those 19 years, man. He's trying to get himself going again real quick. I am here to promote something which is an ADHD drug, which, for all my stuff, I've been on over 35 meds. None of them helped. A lot of them made me worse. But I got diagnosed with ADHD in 89, told me I had a learning disability back then. I never learned this, but I just didn't learn the way they talk, right? And when I've tried to, like, tell people, like, adhd, if I'm sitting in something I'm not interested in, it's like drowning. I want all parents to hear this, like, your kid is drowning. And the only way to get out of that, forget a breath of fresh air, is to disrupt the class or have an outburst or to talk to somebody, you know, and we're always getting in trouble. So for the first time. And when I first got diagnosed, they put me on stimulants, which were not good for me, because when you have depression, you go up, but then the down is bad. And then for people like us who are violent, it's really bad, and we get vicious, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys are. You're a model of freaking stability over there. Yeah. James, right? Yeah. James is Santa Claus all thug, Right? He's the Easter Bunny. And. And no, but it's bad. So I finally found something called Kelb, which actually take a night, which is the opposite of any other ADHD drug. And it, you know, it basically has, like, when I got 19 roommates in my head talking tonight, all bad to each other, man. It kind of cuts it down to two. So I can relax, go to bed the next morning if I'm not on it. If I'm on Fox Nibel Sunday, I could be in segment two. I'm thinking about segment three. Like, I'm never present. This gets me present. And it's. It's. It's been a huge help for me.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, no.

[James DeBo Harris]

Do you talk to a doctor about this?

[Rob Gronkowski]

How do you.

[Jake Glazer]

Yeah. Go to your doctor about it. Yes. Without a U key. Q, E, L, B, R, E, E. It's really been a game changer for me.

[James DeBo Harris]

Okay, man. We want to thank you for joining us, man. Glazer, always.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I appreciate it.

[Jake Glazer]

Love you, baby. Love you, brother.

[James DeBo Harris]

Thank you very much.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Thank you so much, man. Everything.

[Jake Glazer]

Appreciate it.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Jake Glazer in the building, guys, man.

[James DeBo Harris]

Jake Laser in the building, man. Unbreakable performance. Founder of mvp. Emerging veterans and players. Check it out. Close up.

[Rob Gronkowski]

What's up, baby?

[James DeBo Harris]

Look here, Donut. Slide on through.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Come on. What's up, brother? How you, man?

[James DeBo Harris]

What up?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Good, good. Joe. Joe, brother.

[James DeBo Harris]

How you doing, boy?

[Jake Glazer]

Smooth.

[James DeBo Harris]

Know it?

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Yes, Sir.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yes. Yes. 2004, second round draft choice.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[James DeBo Harris]

Indianapolis coach, right? Was. Was. Was two time national champion Georgia and Texas, right?

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Yes, sir.

[James DeBo Harris]

Okay. Okay. And currently jets receiver.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Yes, sir.

[James DeBo Harris]

How you doing today, boss?

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Good, man. How about yourself?

[James DeBo Harris]

I'm doing good, man. I can't complain. Hey, look here. I ain't never been of value enough to get traded, but how did that. How did that feel, brother?

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

It was a. It was. It was definitely surprising a little bit, you know, for the most part. Well, the writing was kind of on the wall a little bit, but, you know, it still kind of came out of nowhere. It's just. It just feel good to. To be wanted, you know?

[James DeBo Harris]

Oh, yeah.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

More so than. More so than not being wanted anymore.

[James DeBo Harris]

I mean, second round draft choice, that's the kind of wanted, you know?

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Yeah.

[James DeBo Harris]

I Was. I was. I was, I was. I was picked up two days later. You know what I'm saying? The draft was over with.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Hey, so you with New York now, right?

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Got Aaron Glenn. Have you met you? No. AG. Aaron Glenn. So I was, he was my coach back in Cleveland, my DB's coach. How do you feel? How do you feel his coaching style is.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Shoot, he. He a true players coach. Like he, he, he could relate to the player, you know, of course he was a player at one time, but like he, he just a true motivator. Like he ain't gonna, he ain't gonna sugarcoat nothing with you. Like if, if you need something out of you, he gonna tell you. And like, as a player, I feel like you, you don't really need much.

[Rob Gronkowski]

More than that's what you need.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah, sure.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And you got your man too. G Dub Garrett Wilson.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I love that dude, man. How you feel like you'll be able to pick his brain and learn a little bit off of him?

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

So he a baller? Yeah, like he, he a straight baller. And it'll just be fun. You know, we ain't, we ain't really get to spend too much time together when I got traded in, but you know, getting the whole off season in and kind of going into the season, that'll be, That'll be fun for sure.

[Rob Gronkowski]

For sure.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah, definitely. How much more you think they'll be able to integrate you into that? But you getting the whole off season there. Is there anything that they talk to you about opportunities, I mean, or focus or where they see it?

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

I. I don't really know. I'm just. I'm just kind of prepared to. To just go in and earn whatever. Whatever I go in and earn and you know, I'm always bet on myself.

[James DeBo Harris]

Of course, so got to. You can't bet on nobody else. You don't bet on you. Who will?

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Ain't no telling.

[James DeBo Harris]

You know what I'm saying?

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Yeah.

[James DeBo Harris]

You know what I'm saying? You got to.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

So I said you had, I watched the game when you had the little fumble against the coast of Texas. The end zone.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

But I'm not gonna lie to you. You took a. Accountability of it. Sometimes that thing is the hardest thing to do. But in the league, when you a man, I just want to let you know, respect you and you came out and keep balling like that's what it say, man. Not letting nobody ever put you down and just knowing that you.

[James DeBo Harris]

You got it.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You know what I'm saying? Keep that ground going, keep it so keep it popping for sure.

[James DeBo Harris]

Was that, was that difficult to bounce back from? Did you have to talk to yourself, get into your own head? You had to talk to somebody else. That, like, what was the process of bouncing back from that? How was that, man? What got you there?

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

It was more so just kind of the way I viewed it, it was like, okay, like, I know I'm finna have some type of pushback from this. Of course, like, you can't just. You can't just live life normally like nothing happened. So I kind of looked at it as like, you know, it's more so somebody else blessing in my curse because I know, you know, kind of once I, once I go back out there, like I still play the same game of football, you know, it was, it was more so just about keeping my confidence up, you know, while I'm, while I'm in practice, while I'm in scout team. Like whatever it is, just trying to, trying to keep that, keep that hope alive.

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, for sure. Knowing you a dog, it's just a fun. It's just a flute play.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Yeah, yeah. Like the, the. The possibility of that's really happening to players, like is, is. Is low.

[Jake Glazer]

Yes.

[Rob Gronkowski]

So you did everything you had to do the whole play, you know what I'm saying? Like, not like nobody else did that, bro. So you hooped out. I just love the way you gonna finish that and be good to go.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

For sure.

[James DeBo Harris]

So what, what, what brings you here? What you got going on, boss man?

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

I'm here right now with Dexcom, you know, to show off the Dexcom G7. You know, it's a continuous glucose monitor that you slip on the back of your arm and.

[James DeBo Harris]

Okay.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

You know, I was, I was a, I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes when I was 16 years old. So, you know, this, this, this kind of came in my life and kind of changed the game for me and, you know, had me switching from, you know, diabetes and football to, you know, really just focusing on my profession and, you know, letting this do the work.

[James DeBo Harris]

So that's, that's a 24 hour monitor. That 24 hour monitor.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Right now we working with the, the 15 day. You know, the, the. The last product was only. Was only for 10 days. So. So now, you know, you only, you only have to. Have to change this out, I believe once a month or twice a month maybe.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah, once a while.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Hell yeah, man. I didn't know that you had diabetes, bro. That's good stuff. So, you know, man, you know, the grind out Here fighting for his life. For sure, bro. Keep it going, man.

[James DeBo Harris]

You do the shot and all that like.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[James DeBo Harris]

What is that? Like an app that connects to your phone or something?

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

You. You hook it up to the phone. It's a. It's a Bluetooth device. And, you know, you hook it up to the Apple Watch as well, and it's every five minutes, it. It'll send you an alert of where your blood sugar is at. So, you know, usually as a diabetic, you.

[James DeBo Harris]

You got your finger.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Prick your finger, then take a shot. You know, this also works hand in hand with the. With the pump, to which, you know, they. They work hand in hand. And now you don't even need to take a shot.

[James DeBo Harris]

Or once it hits a certain point, the pump will automatically hit you with what you need. Yeah, okay, bro.

[Rob Gronkowski]

That's what I'm talking about. You need to get more people because the diabetes is a real thing. You know what I'm saying? That's shooting yourself all the time. So people that don't have it don't really recognize. Recognize it don't really know what people are dealing with. So, yeah, appreciate this, letting people know, the knowledge. And it's Dexcom, Dexcom, Dexcom.

[James DeBo Harris]

G7 15 day. My guy is the one that y' all want to holla at. Talk to, man. So how many times before this had you been in a situation where, like, you in the game or something, and you're like, I'm dying. You got to prick your finger then and try and figure out what's on.

[Joe Hayden]

Going.

[James DeBo Harris]

Going on?

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

I. I kind of. So. So everywhere I've been, you know, I always gotta. Gotta hook up with the nutritionist, and so, like, you know, we'll work hand in hand. And, you know, it's. It's. It's. It honestly depend on the day, depend on the game, depend on, you know, how I'm feeling that day. But, you know, for the most part, it's. It's really checking myself kind of every time I step off the field, you know, for every drive just to. Just to make sure. And if it's not every drive, then it's.

[James DeBo Harris]

So before that, you had to actually just pop your finger every time you came.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Jake Glazer]

Yeah.

[James DeBo Harris]

And you trying to catch a rock like that.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, man.

[James DeBo Harris]

I got a different perspective, but it's.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Like, bro, he out there really, really fighting.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah, I'd rather get stuck with, like, a real needle than have to prick my finger, dude. That's the. That's the most annoying thing ever, dude.

[Rob Gronkowski]

They gotta do what they gotta do.

[James DeBo Harris]

And they prick your finger with that thing. Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

When's the. When's your off season program starting this year?

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Shoot. I mean, it kind of. It kind of started already a little bit. But I say. I say it probably pick up once I. Once I leave here.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I give myself a little bit. Like soon till the Super Bowl's done. That's when, you know that season's over so we can start getting back to it. For sure.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

So for sure.

[Rob Gronkowski]

He don't never stop working out.

[James DeBo Harris]

He probably work out the easiest way.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Stay ready. So you don't gotta get ready. Never get out of shape if you.

[James DeBo Harris]

Got something hurt or something like that.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Yeah.

[James DeBo Harris]

Give it time to get healed up. But if you ain't got hurt, two weeks.

[Jake Glazer]

Yeah.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah. That's all you need.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And it's all, you know, and, and it's not like straight back to routes hard and everything. No, just keep your body right, condition it, all that stuff. For sure.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Hell yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Keep that grind going, bro. Come on, man.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah, for sure, man. Look here, man. We want to thank you for. For joining us, brother.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Appreciate you.

[James DeBo Harris]

Appreciate the conversation.

[Jake Glazer]

Yes, sir.

[Guest Player (e.g., Garrett Wilson)]

Yes, sir.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Appreciate you, brother. No doubt, sir. Good old A.D. mitchell, man. Two time national champion.

[James DeBo Harris]

Two times.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Two time national champion.

[James DeBo Harris]

2 times.

[Rob Gronkowski]

To be more careful.

[James DeBo Harris]

My bad. I never had a national champion.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You know what I'm saying? That's, you know. Oh, yeah.

[James DeBo Harris]

I ain't even. Never.

[Rob Gronkowski]

That's. You know what I'm saying? That's. That's never even went to him. That's what the sec. That's what the SEC worker do. That's what the SEC worker do.

[James DeBo Harris]

I only had one win a season in my career. Career. I was 6 and 5 and we thought we was doing it. That was our first winning season since like 1987.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah. Six and five. Yeah. That is winning. That is over 500.

[James DeBo Harris]

That's over 500.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Got to be more careful.

[James DeBo Harris]

Over 500. Joe, look here, baby.

[Rob Gronkowski]

What's up, baby?

[James DeBo Harris]

I guess we. We got questions. We got some trades. We got. We got some trade. Where we at? We got something over there.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You see? We got.

[James DeBo Harris]

What we got.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes.

[James DeBo Harris]

Let's go. Be behind as they see.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh.

[James DeBo Harris]

Oh. They know. They. They know. I got. I got good vision, but that's kind of close, ain't it?

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, I think it might pop up right there. So we're gonna be able to see here.

[James DeBo Harris]

I'm gonna do like this so I can see it on my camera phone.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I see.

[James DeBo Harris]

Still can't see it, though.

[Rob Gronkowski]

It's all good. What we got today, though? Depot, who you got?

[James DeBo Harris]

We got. We got.

[Rob Gronkowski]

We got. We got Kurt coming in.

[James DeBo Harris]

No, no, no. We got nightcap tonight.

[Rob Gronkowski]

We got nightcap tonight.

[James DeBo Harris]

We got Nightcap.

[Jake Glazer]

Yeah.

[James DeBo Harris]

Hey, look here, man. We got nightcap tonight. What is that, 8 o'? Clock?

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[Jake Glazer]

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[Rob Gronkowski]

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[James DeBo Harris]

We up.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, okay. Okay. What you got?

[James DeBo Harris]

What is your favorite super bowl memory as a player? What is your. Joe. What is your favorite.

[Rob Gronkowski]

That's. No, that. That's obviously addressed to you. That's obviously addressed to you. This man is so.

[James DeBo Harris]

Question that we have to ask.

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, they're not asking me, because I. You just want me to say for.

[James DeBo Harris]

Both of us, right?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah. No.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, it's not.

[James DeBo Harris]

Do your job.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Who.

[James DeBo Harris]

Who is this?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Nate Harper. Don't ask questions that I can't answer.

[James DeBo Harris]

You can be watching it. They got. You could. You could have watched one that you had a favorite memory as a player.

[Rob Gronkowski]

When I was. No, when I was playing and I was. I wasn't in it. I don't care, but. You want me to be rude or. No, I don't care.

[James DeBo Harris]

You got to.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I don't have a favorite memory of me not playing in the Super Bowl.

[James DeBo Harris]

Have a favorite.

[Rob Gronkowski]

What's your favorite. I don't care.

[James DeBo Harris]

Watching the Super Bowl, Joe.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, favorite. Me watching the Super Bowl. Okay. I might say. You know what, Deebo?

[James DeBo Harris]

I'm gonna say it don't say in the Super Bowl.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Super bowl memory as a player.

[James DeBo Harris]

Right. Not player. In the Super Bowl. As a player.

[Rob Gronkowski]

All right, well, look, you retired.

[James DeBo Harris]

You're no longer a player. When you were a player, what was your favorite memory?

[Rob Gronkowski]

My favorite thing. We got. We got dog. That's what I'm talking about. My favorite memory was your pick, Deebo. Your pick. Hey, your favorite memory is your pick.

[Jake Glazer]

Same.

[James DeBo Harris]

Can't remember.

[Rob Gronkowski]

We got Kurt coming with my good old dog. What's up, boss?

[James DeBo Harris]

What's up? How you doing, Kurt? I was excited.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I see you, Bab.

[James DeBo Harris]

It ain't had nothing to do with you. It's with a dog. Hey, boy. Hey. Yeah, he don't like you.

[Rob Gronkowski]

He don't like me. He said, see my sunglasses?

[James DeBo Harris]

Felt it. He felt you wasn't a dog person, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, they do feel that.

[Jake Glazer]

Okay.

[James DeBo Harris]

Felt that.

[Joe Hayden]

Whoops. Take my mic.

[James DeBo Harris]

Give him a chair. Give him a chair.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, we should get up there.

[James DeBo Harris]

Petey, jump up there.

[Joe Hayden]

Don't come up Here, Come here, baby.

[James DeBo Harris]

That boy big. There you go.

[Jake Glazer]

As far back as we can.

[James DeBo Harris]

Better boy. If we can get the chair into.

[Jake Glazer]

The corner, then we can. Yeah.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

This made my week.

[James DeBo Harris]

I love it.

[Joe Hayden]

How we doing guys?

[James DeBo Harris]

Doing great, man.

[Joe Hayden]

How are we doing? Awesome, man. Good to see you guys.

[Jake Glazer]

Great to see you.

[Joe Hayden]

Congrats on doing this.

[James DeBo Harris]

Thank you.

[Joe Hayden]

Guys enjoying it?

[James DeBo Harris]

Oh, yeah. Let's. Let's tell y' all who we got here.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You know exactly.

[James DeBo Harris]

We got Pete the dog.

[Joe Hayden]

That's amazing. That's the most important thing.

[Jake Glazer]

Yeah. And his owner.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm a handler. I'm here as a handler. That's so true. That's my life.

[James DeBo Harris]

Now look here, man. Indiana.

[Joe Hayden]

Wow. How about that?

[James DeBo Harris]

Okay. This is what I want to know. So I believe it. Yeah, I am. I'm a Kent State alumni.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, I know.

[James DeBo Harris]

Do you, do you see any possibility of this situation being able to happen for Kent State or programs like mine? You know, that's at the.

[Joe Hayden]

I, I almost think it's getting. Become more of a haves and a have nots and I think the Kent states of the world, if you were there and you had a great freshman or sophomore year, Florida's coming down and they're going to give you game changing money and it's hard. Life changing and it's hard for me to visualize a group of four team right now being able to keep their roster together to make a possible run. I would love it, but I just think that the Florida's of the world, the Ohio States, the Texas is. It's so different than when you guys were coming through the recruiting and just the, the way the high school kids aren't being recruited like they used to be. They're going to, they're going to Kent State and they're going to get a guy who's all conference guy and get him for two years. So it's such a different game. Some people are still developing. It's kind of like NFL. You build through the draft and you kind of sprinkle in some free agents. I think the best teams are doing it that way. Not just going all in on trying to bring in portal guys, but the game is so different right now.

[James DeBo Harris]

Do you see, do you see any point in time where they're going to have to put some type of stipulation rules to how they're doing this with the.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, I think that's what we're waiting for, James, is rules. Like right now, if you get frustrated in your team's two and six is leave like if you're mad, right. You're not playing, you just leave. It's like you imagine the NFL, you could just bounce. I mean, you played on teams that are championship teams. You played on teams that were struggling. By week eight, you kind of know you're probably imagine just being like, I'm out.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

And I don't. What's that teaching the kids? You know, like, I have four sons. Like, I can't imagine every time they ran into an obstacle, it's like, well, just quit, you know, go over here and try something like you want them to. Part of great part of football is trying to overcome that and learning how to overcome adversity. And we're teaching these guys right now, just, just go around it, go to another place. And I just feel bad for them long term because they don't have any roots with where they are. Like, I'm sure you still have connections in Gainesville and, and you were there three years.

[Jake Glazer]

Yep.

[Joe Hayden]

And I don't know, I feel like when I went to college.

[Jake Glazer]

Damn.

[James DeBo Harris]

He ain't even talk to me about Kent State.

[Rob Gronkowski]

We having a little thing.

[Joe Hayden]

Did you. Do you have tight.

[James DeBo Harris]

I still got some ties.

[Joe Hayden]

Do you. Okay, good man.

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[Joe Hayden]

But I just think it's.

[James DeBo Harris]

I'm trying to get enough money so I could go. Go in there and buy me a program.

[Joe Hayden]

Nice.

[Jake Glazer]

I like that.

[James DeBo Harris]

I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go ahead and give me. You get a budget like, oh, State.

[Joe Hayden]

Yo. Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

That's tough, man. That's tough. They got great back.

[Joe Hayden]

They do, they. But, but I just, I, I feel bad. Like, where are we going to be in 10 years with these kids that maybe went to the NFL, played for three years, didn't get that second contract, don't have that generational. What Income.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

What happens to that guy? Like what. What did he learn in his college?

[Jake Glazer]

Experience.

[Joe Hayden]

Experience.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Because he's probably still jumping, just jumping around, no competition.

[Joe Hayden]

Right.

[Jake Glazer]

Building.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Like you have to be able to grow. So I'm with you a thousand percent.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

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[Rob Gronkowski]

How do you feel about Fernando Mendoza though? Do you think he's going to be able to change a franchise like a number one pick like legitimately coming in.

[Joe Hayden]

Again, it's your guys world. But I, I don't know if he's the guy that you're going to say. It doesn't matter who's at receiver, it doesn't matter who's at running back. We got this guy. He's our, we're going to.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

He's a guy that you're going to put on that is going to process at an elite level. He's going to see you disguising, uptight, showing man and then dropping off playing. He's going to see that. Okay, so he's that guy.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

But he doesn't have a skill set. That's just a game changer. But I, I, I'm a fan of these kind of guys but you got to have, you got to have pieces around him. Th percent if you got pieces around him, he's your guy. If you want him to just like save the franchise, here's the ball. I don't think he's your guy.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I don't think he's that for sure.

[Joe Hayden]

I, I, I just don't, I like Herbert with the Chargers. They went to him and it was like we'll eventually get good enough but in the meantime he's such an elite.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

Skill set. We're going to be okay.

[Rob Gronkowski]

He's not that I got you.

[Joe Hayden]

He's, he's going to manage it and get you out of trouble. Not letting him blitz. If he's, he's hanging out all of a sudden he comes late. He's going to eventually, I think he's going to see things like that. So he's very incredibly smart and he does have some skill. I mean he does have some ability as I saw, you know, in his championship run.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I could see like how Sam Darnold with the jets, how that's the same person that's playing with the Seahawks right now. But you put a good defense around you, you put a good team around you. You don't have to do everything.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Just don't mess it up. Put it in the right spot.

[Joe Hayden]

And I think Brock Purdy out here kind of does that right. Mr. Relevant. No one thought he could do anything and, and I again I think you got Christian behind him all the pieces at receiver understands what Kyle's trying to do to attack a defense. He's an extension of Kyle and he's, he's like a computer. That's what Mendoza, he's, he's going to be a computer, that kind of guy.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And with those like you said too, it's the coaches putting you in position that him and Kyle, Kyle got people running open.

[Joe Hayden]

Right.

[James DeBo Harris]

You know what I'm saying?

[Rob Gronkowski]

You don't gotta throw it in too many tight windows.

[Joe Hayden]

Exactly. Right? Yeah.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah. College pro transition from one to the other. How much of that transfers from college to pro and what do you think the biggest things that do or don't?

[Joe Hayden]

Well, I think at quarterback and again you guys are the perfect age to see like early in your guys careers they were quarterbacks that probably were savants when it came to what we're talking about. And I feel like as high school football, like quarterbacks came up in middle school and high school never huddled, never under center, looking over the sideline, looking at an Elmer Fudd sign or whatever, you know what I mean? They weren't quarterbacks. And I think now the game has changed so much. Most of these guys are coming out of these systems where very rarely are they running an NFL kind of offense. So you just wonder, it's, you're really kind of rolling the dice wondering does he have what it takes? Like does J.J. mcCarthy leave in Michigan? Does he have what it takes? You really never know until you do all your due diligence, roll the dice and then you hope that they have the ability like Caleb Williams. It's been so fun. That guy never huddled in his life and he was a superstar, best athlete on the field. That's all he knew. So his instincts as a quarterback, what he's worked, had been worked through with Ben Johnson, his primary's not there. He's going to go try to make James miss and a lot of times it worked out for him. Now he's becoming a guy. Hits first, nope. Second, third and then if it's not there, he can do his thing. I'm excited to see where that relationship by the way is going to go with Caleb and Ben Johnson. But I don't know, man, I'd like to think because of his preparation, he's the guy you play with. These quarterbacks, they got it, they got their tablet, always with them, always at home watching film. He's that guy. So I'd like to think it'll transition but who knows?

[James DeBo Harris]

You know what something that, that surprised me that I think both me and Joe actually found Out a little bit of this year is a lot of these young guys, receivers, some quarterbacks, they can't recover.

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, I don't ever heard.

[James DeBo Harris]

Not being able to read coverage or being taught that in the process. Like, where, where does that, where is that being dropped off at?

[Joe Hayden]

Like, I think the emphasis again, you lived it, the five star, four star world. It's seven on seven. You know, it's, it's almost like AAU basketball. So instead of getting in the mud and like learning the fundamentals of the game, I think there's so much flash and so much hype on social media about this corner. He's out here and he's doing this and he's not doing necessarily what he's going to do in a game. He's just doing clowns. But it's encouraged in the grassroots high school stuff. So they come to college and these college guys, they're just trying to keep him on the roster. You get a five star corner, you're just trying to keep him happy and want to stay. No one's getting tough and doing like Nick Saban, like coaching. Like this is how you worry about losing him. They're worried about him leaving. So babies.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah, they come in as celebrities already. Exactly.

[Joe Hayden]

That's exactly right.

[James DeBo Harris]

And they're up there catering to them and they ain't putting out one snap on the field.

[Joe Hayden]

Bingo.

[James DeBo Harris]

It makes, it makes.

[Joe Hayden]

That's the fear you have. And then you're thinking, in the NFL, okay, say you have Joe, who hasn't been taught the fundamentals, but man, he can run. Change of direction. He has all the I, I can get him to learn. That's what I think they're rolling the dice on. And sometimes it works and other times guys just never get it. You know, they never get it. How much of the game for you guys as defensive players was not just how big and strong you were, how fast, instinctive you are, but just doing your job, understanding the why and how what you did affected what he did. Like, to me, that's like next level.

[Rob Gronkowski]

That's, that's next level.

[Joe Hayden]

But, but they're not doing any.

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, no, no.

[James DeBo Harris]

I don't even think, I don't, I don't think a majority of younger coaches are teaching that, to be honest with you. Like, I, I think guys are getting in there and they're looking at what it is they want to do instead of getting the guys a whole understanding. Like, when I got in, I didn't know what the hell I was doing, so I couldn't Even do what I needed to do.

[Jake Glazer]

How do you.

[James DeBo Harris]

Once I understood, I sat down with my coach, my coach, Coach Butler sat down with me. And like, day in, day out, I'm after. I'm here trying to figure out everything. But once I learned what it was that I could do, I couldn't learn what I could do better. But I can learn what the guy next to me was doing with the guy on that side of me. But did he teach you that?

[Joe Hayden]

Or did you have that in your.

[James DeBo Harris]

Own mind that you needed that, like, to make me better, to make the defense better. If I learn what the guy is doing in front of me, behind me, on the side of me, if I have no work there, instead of me just sitting here on nothing, I can squeeze in and wait for that deep dig coming at 17, that's gonna be coming across instead of sitting down here in the plural flat five yards. And now I'm making my safety happen.

[Joe Hayden]

But it has a secret sauce that makes players.

[James DeBo Harris]

But it's something that, like. Like Dick LeBeau, like, he. He taught us that. Coach Butler, he, like, they. They taught us that, like, hey, if you don't have anything here, help your buddy.

[Jake Glazer]

Yeah.

[James DeBo Harris]

You know what I'm saying? He's learning it.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I would say this, too, the same thing. Cause when you first get in, you're worried about. It takes you long enough to learn just your job. So when you cut in there, my first rookie year, after the second year, you start learning what everybody's around you doing when you call the play as a corner, I first come out, all right, we got cover two. I'm thinking about what's my job now. Second year, they call cover two. I already know that. I'm just worried about when they motion, what's our check, what are the splits, what routes are they running? So now I already know our defense, you start getting more and more and more comfortable.

[Joe Hayden]

So I would say to me that what you guys are describing to me is what gets lost by the average fan, which to me is how much football savvy, intelligence, communication, especially great defense like Seattle, both these teams, the communication. But these things aren't talked about. We're going back to your original point about college and high school players. And coming up, I think we just see raw ability. We see potential. And we think, is that going to transition? And what you're describing is, you better go to the right franchise with the right coach, otherwise you're just going to have a really talented player that's just not. Not understanding the nuances of playing as one of 11 on a defense.

[James DeBo Harris]

Well, that's another thing. When you have a coach, what we like to call buy in. When I have a coach, if my coach is Joe Hayden and I know how Joe Hayden played the game, I saw how he played the game, I'm going to buy into him immediately. And now I'm going to listen to everything he has to say because I know I seen greatness in and now he's coaching and telling me what to do. So it's an automatic buy into that. And now players are wide open to feed and take the, taking in the information.

[Joe Hayden]

Are you going to coach?

[Rob Gronkowski]

I. Yes, I think it's, I'm about to start getting into it.

[Jake Glazer]

Good for you, man.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I just wanted to take a little bit of time out first and then.

[Jake Glazer]

Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, he's giving a face. Are you going to leave, you going to leave my man here?

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, no, not yet. We going to go together. We're going together.

[James DeBo Harris]

Oh yeah. When I get that 30 minutes you're gonna coach. Yes, yes. Look here man, before we get you out of here, man, what brings you here? What you got going on?

[Joe Hayden]

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[James DeBo Harris]

Can they, can they buy this in stores or is it.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, online. You can buy it in stores like Home Depot.

[James DeBo Harris]

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[Joe Hayden]

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[Rob Gronkowski]

Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

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[James DeBo Harris]

Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

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[Rob Gronkowski]

Check those dogs with Spruce.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Appreciate you, man. Great seeing you, man. Congrats on all. Thank you guys and all your.

[Jake Glazer]

I appreciate it.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Good luck with everything the show. Thank you, boss.

[James DeBo Harris]

All right, now.

[Jake Glazer]

Good old Kurt.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Herd Street.

[Jake Glazer]

Come on.

[Rob Gronkowski]

And Peter.

[James DeBo Harris]

Pete. Come here. Pete.

[Jake Glazer]

Good boy. Come here.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Come here.

[James DeBo Harris]

He don't like you, Joe.

[Rob Gronkowski]

All right, Pete.

[Joe Hayden]

Thanks, guys.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Thank you.

[James DeBo Harris]

All right now.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Have a good one, boss. Good old Kurt.

[James DeBo Harris]

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[Jake Glazer]

Spruce.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Spruce. Ain't that a.

[James DeBo Harris]

My man.

[Rob Gronkowski]

That's a legend right there.

[James DeBo Harris]

Debo, that's a big dog, man. That's a lab. He got a. He got a meaty head for a lab. I'm trying to tell you, man. Definitely. Definitely.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Hello. What's up, baby? I'm good. How are you?

[James DeBo Harris]

Hey, how you? Good. Nice to meet you.

[Jake Glazer]

You cooking in here?

[Rob Gronkowski]

We're cooking.

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[James DeBo Harris]

Look here, man. We got another question, man. Let's get up over here.

[Rob Gronkowski]

We got.

[James DeBo Harris]

If you could be gifted a ticket to any event in the world, which would it be? Joe, if you could be gifted a ticket to any event in the world, which would it be?

[Rob Gronkowski]

You know what? I'm going to. I'm going Game. I'm going any Game 7 basketball championship floor, courtside. That's where I'm going, courtside. Basketball games are the funnest thing that I could go to. Like, I love football in the suite and all that, but you too far. That basketball. That basketball on the floor with Braun right there sitting right next to me. Like you sitting right next to me right now. Not like this. Yeah. You don't like. I don't know. Yo, yo, whatever. So sit next to Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant, whoever one is, your favorite player of all time sitting right next to him on the floor. If you see Mr. Jordan, you might want to call that one, huh?

[James DeBo Harris]

I might.

[Rob Gronkowski]

All right, well, let's put it that.

[James DeBo Harris]

I might take the little tight seat.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Game seven. Game seven, Utah Jazz Ver with Jordan.

[James DeBo Harris]

Put me in the box.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Put you in the box.

[James DeBo Harris]

Put me in the box. I'mma have a TV in the box. I'mma have a better view. I'mma get all the replays. I'mma get all the excitement of the live with none of the. No removal of space.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Okay, so you just wanna be.

[James DeBo Harris]

You wanna be like when we in the box? Yeah. Super bowl in the suite.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Super bowl in the suite.

[James DeBo Harris]

Super bowl in the suite.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I can respect it.

[James DeBo Harris]

Super bowl in the suite.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Game. I'm game seven. Plenty to eat. Plenty to eat.

[James DeBo Harris]

Super bowl on the sweet. I ain't gotta get up to go nowhere. All I do is Turn around. You know, grab me some crab cakes. You know, grab me some steak. You know, whatever it is that I need, it's already in the box, ready to go.

[Rob Gronkowski]

When you on the floor, though, too, they bring you whatever you want. They bring you that. I had crab cakes on the floor. I had crab cakes on the floor. Right next to Bron.

[James DeBo Harris]

Right.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Right next to mj.

[James DeBo Harris]

Where your table at that you eating?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh, it's got to be on my lap, though. You got a whole.

[James DeBo Harris]

You got to stop playing with me, man.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I'm trying to really throw down. You trying to throw down? Throw down.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah. I'm not sitting there snacking. Do I look like I snack?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Do I look.

[James DeBo Harris]

Do I look like I snack?

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, you don't look like you snack.

[James DeBo Harris]

Hey, Super Bowl, Pittsburgh Steelers. Any Pittsburgh Steelers. Super Bowl. I gotta be in the box, though.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I'm going. I gotta be on the floor. NBA Finals. Got to. I'm a basketball guy, bro. Listen, I'm a big basket. You see my jacket?

[James DeBo Harris]

The only way. The only way I'm not in the box, I'm on the sideline as the head coach, getting 30 million. You my DB coach. We down there.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah, I like that. I like that view. I like that.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yes. Yeah.

[Jake Glazer]

Lord.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yes. Yes. Look here. What we got next? We got something else up here?

[Rob Gronkowski]

No.

[James DeBo Harris]

Oh, there we go.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh.

[James DeBo Harris]

Who wins the matchup, JSN or Gonzalez?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Boy.

[James DeBo Harris]

What do you call a win, though?

[Rob Gronkowski]

That's what I'm saying. What is a win? Is it over under a certain amount of yards?

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You know what I'm saying? Is he keeping them out of the end zone?

[James DeBo Harris]

Like, what do you call a win?

[Rob Gronkowski]

If he goes? If he goes.

[James DeBo Harris]

What do you call a win?

[Rob Gronkowski]

If he go, what do you call the win? It's five. I'm a db. I'm saying a win for me is under. Against him, against him, against him. Keeping them under 50 yards. Under 50 yards. No touchdowns.

[James DeBo Harris]

50 yards. You're tripping. They can throw that boy the ball about 15 times.

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, I'm just trying to tell you, as me, as a DB, if I keep you under 50 and out the end zone, that's when I won. Keep him out of the end zone, period. You won, but you don't want 12 for 150 and no touchdown, you got hit. You know what I'm saying? But depending on. Is it zones, I don't like a lot of those dig routes. If that's just in the zone, the linebacker's coming up, biting up. That's what I'm saying, he says man.

[James DeBo Harris]

Man to man throwing the rocket.

[Rob Gronkowski]

If he's going man to man and he on him under, keeping him under 50 yards, no tuds. And that's when. If he goes.

[James DeBo Harris]

If he's gonna throw it to him, it's man defense. He targeted him eight times. Perfect balls.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Perfect balls. If you strapped him up. If he's four. Four catches for 42 yards, zero tugs, 442. That's. That's strap. That's work.

[James DeBo Harris]

I like that.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You know what I'm saying? Anything under that 50 and no tuddies and you got a couple. You got five catches for under for 50 yards. I'm in no tudies.

[James DeBo Harris]

So with that being your. Listen, so we just got your standard. That being your standard.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes.

[James DeBo Harris]

Who wins the matchup?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Jackson, Smith and Jigba.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Because I mean, he not. He gonna get more than 50. So, I mean, if you're gonna lock him up, he might get in the box too. He gonna get in his own. He gonna get about, man.

[James DeBo Harris]

They thought that being they throwed him in the ball too much. You think you go hold that man. You go strap.

[Rob Gronkowski]

That's what I'm saying. If he throws. If he throw it to him 12 and he catches half of it, you just got. He got 6 depending 6 foot. If he gets 10 yards of catch, don't let him go up top on you. Like one of these catches could be for 45 yards and then you're looking nuts. Then you're six for 120 on your head. And the tutty bad day, 12.

[James DeBo Harris]

As long as it ain't. I could. I could take. I could take 120.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You could take 120.

[James DeBo Harris]

10 or 12 catches and.

[Jake Glazer]

No.

[James DeBo Harris]

And. And what about touchdown?

[Rob Gronkowski]

No, as long as you. You said keep him out the box and you won. Keep him out the end zone and you won.

[James DeBo Harris]

Yeah, but I'm. I'm with you. I'm gonna have to go. I'm gonna have to go. I gotta go with jsn.

[Rob Gronkowski]

I gotta go with js and that's no disrespect.

[James DeBo Harris]

It's just that.

[Rob Gronkowski]

How many opportunities is he going to hit? They're gonna keep. They gonna throw him that rock. And Walker gonna be toting that joint too.

[James DeBo Harris]

Same thing what we.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Who wins mvp. I' ma go ahead. Let. Well, if it's going what I think Seattle, if they. Seattle wins the championship. Sam Donald's gonna win the mvp.

[James DeBo Harris]

I wouldn't. I would. I wouldn't. I wouldn't go. Ah, well, they Ain't gonna win.

[Rob Gronkowski]

So is it gonna be Ken? If Kenneth Walker is gonna.

[James DeBo Harris]

Kenneth Walker who's going to win mvp. Of course, you know, I'm going to England because, you know.

[Rob Gronkowski]

So you're going to go Drake May.

[James DeBo Harris]

I'm not gonna vote Drake May, Henderson, whoever. Get this game changing. Winning interception on your boy, on Sam, Don, Whoever.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Pick up so you. It could be Gonzalez. If Gonzalez take one back to the.

[James DeBo Harris]

Crib, he gone trying to get it out of there. Trying to squeeze it in there tight. He got pressure coming up on him. He swing that thing out. Boy come down on that thing. It's just a little out of pick six to the house.

[Rob Gronkowski]

So you like a defensive mvp.

[James DeBo Harris]

I love defensive mvp. Some people say I should have won it. What are you talking about?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.

[James DeBo Harris]

You know what I'm saying. I know why I ain't win that. But you know Payton. Yeah. Peyton. That's why me and me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Inside story. Me and Madden got some issues. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

[Rob Gronkowski]

But Madden.

[James DeBo Harris]

Listen, John, I talk to you later about it. Yeah, yeah. Straight hate.

[Rob Gronkowski]

That's crazy words.

[James DeBo Harris]

I sat down at the box with him after the game, after the Super bowl, after the game. Right there. Sat down. Everybody on that CR crew told me.

[Rob Gronkowski]

The John mad one.

[James DeBo Harris]

Like I said, man, I'll talk to you later. Anyway, man, what's the next question?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Let's see who wins.

[James DeBo Harris]

Oh, let me back. Yeah, I got to back up for this one. Well, here's my question. Do you think the NFL has a quarterback development problem within this league? Because unless you're Mahomes, Jackson, Allen Burroughs or even Daniel, these guys would rather discard you like a used sock. Instead of building around the quarterback position. Do you think the NFL has a.

[Rob Gronkowski]

All right. Yes. I didn't. I think it's not. It's a development problem and it's a. The coaches. Some coaches aren't that good. Some offensive coaches aren't that good and they try to put the blame on the quarterback. Like, oh no, he's not doing nothing. He's not good enough. Prime example. When we say Sam Darnold, he was not. It's not like it's a different person that's playing. The jets didn't have an offense set up. They didn't give him structure. Defense wasn't good. You just have a full blown bad team. So Sam Darnold looks bad. You go to the Vikings, he looked a little better. You know what I'm saying? Team was better around him, developed. You know what I'm saying? Better plays. Then you go now to Seattle. You're not asked to do as much. He's the same person. He's just hitting better passes, getting the ball, run game amazing. Jackson, Smith and Jigba, their defense, unbelievable. Don't lose it for us, Sam. So I think coaches are coaches take the shortcut sometimes. I mean, like, oh no, look, you got to be able to.

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