Tree Thomas Discusses Overseas Women, Marriage Without Paperwork, & Dating In Los Angeles

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Tree Thomas Discusses Overseas Women, Marriage Without Paperwork, & Dating In Los Angeles

Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Hosts: Azar Faraday, Paul Anthony Pierce
Guest: Tree Thomas (R&B singer and former pro basketball player)
Date: May 19, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay’s "Truth After Dark" series dives into love, marriage, and dating, both at home and abroad. Oakland’s own Tree Thomas—a rising R&B artist and former pro basketball player—joins hosts Azar Faraday and NBA legend Paul Pierce for a spirited, honest conversation about relationship norms, marriage without legal paperwork, dating challenges in Los Angeles, and how social dynamics like wealth and social media impact modern romance.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introducing Tree Thomas: Background and Music Journey

• Tree’s musical roots run deep—his father, sisters, and aunties all sang, mostly in church.
• Started off as a producer and rapper before taking singing seriously post-college and shifting focus to R&B.
• Sports—especially basketball—instilled his work ethic and grind.

  “The background was music, but the grind came from sports… I transferred that over to music.” — Tree Thomas (06:21)

2. Dating Overseas vs. America

• Experience in Malta: Tree calls the dating scene “trash”—limited options, small scene.

  “I was the second tallest person on that island...I feel like American women have an advantage.” — Tree Thomas (09:54)

• Are Overseas Women More Marriage Material?
  • Tree agrees to an extent; says they are typically raised for traditional roles (cooking, cleaning), leading to less friction.
  • Discussion pivots to how American women’s independence comes from necessity, not preference (single-parent upbringings, economic changes).
  • “We’re dealing with non-traditional men wanting traditional women in the house.” — Azar Faraday (12:13)
  • Paul points out lower divorce rates abroad may stem from cultural norms, not necessarily better relationships.
  • The gang agrees: context, economics, and culture are everything.

3. Modern Marriage & Paperwork

• Tree doesn’t believe in government-bound marriage—prefers a commitment before God, but not legal documents.

  “If you want to be with somebody for the rest of your life, be with somebody… I don’t feel like government documents [are necessary].” — Tree Thomas (21:22)

• Practical concerns raised: Without paperwork, a partner may lack legal rights in emergencies.
• Possible workaround: Power of attorney, wills, and ceremonies without state involvement.
• Discussion crystallizes a new “2026 New Marriage” model: ceremony, mutual commitment, legal will/paperwork for protection, but no state marriage license.

  “We just created the 2026 new marriage.” — Paul Pierce (28:32)

4. The Dating Scene in LA

• Tree has been single four years—by choice, but notes LA’s scene is difficult, driven by ambition, social media, and heightened expectations.

  “If you’re in North Dakota, they’re getting married after two weeks… It’s difficult when you’re in LA and Miami and Atlanta.” — Tree Thomas (19:29)

• Social media distorts both expectations and egos—women (and men) become “famous” or “ego-driven,” making authentic connection tougher.
• Tree wants a black woman, but values kindness above all.

  “My main thing I look for is kindness. That’s what the women in my life exude.” — Tree Thomas (47:30)

5. Issues of Wealth, Power, and Independence in Relationships

• Modern dynamics: Women making significant money, sometimes “grading down” on men who earn less.
• The panel reflects on generational changes: Parents’ relationships happened pre-social media, with different temptations and distractions.

6. Public vs. Private Relationships

• Discussion of Megan Thee Stallion & Klay Thompson breakup as a case study.
• Social media creates public pressure and humiliation, making it harder to reconcile normal relationship issues.

  “Once it gets to social media… it’s public embarrassment. Now it’s embarrassing for me to forgive this man that I really love.” — Tree Thomas (36:56)

• Importance of having at least one level-headed confidant, but caution about over-sharing.

7. Marriage Longevity & Family Models

• Is longevity about love or comfort?
  • “Comfortability, familiarity, and convenience” cited as key reasons by Azar for her parents’ 50-year marriage (55:20).
  • Tree counters his parents’ bond is rooted in mutual support for each other's passions and pursuits.
• They explore the odd phenomenon of older couples divorcing after many decades.

8. Communication, Standards & Expectations in Dating

• Both genders often fail to communicate dating intentions and boundaries.
• Tree admits he didn’t always clarify his status or intentions, leading to mismatched expectations.

  “We just dealing with each other, we just dating right now. Like we ain’t committed…” — Tree Thomas (61:12)

• Having multiple prospects is normal in early dating, but regular communication is key.

9. Cheating in LA—Where Not to Go

• Funny segment: Most dangerous LA spots for cheaters—Joey, Katana, Nobu, Catch, and even the Improv.

  “You gonna get caught cheating at Katana.” — Paul Pierce (66:04)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Modern Relationships and Gender Roles:
  “We’re dealing with non-traditional men wanting traditional women in the house. And that is my point.”
  — Azar Faraday (12:13)

• On Why Tree Doesn’t Want Legal Marriage:
  “If you want to be with somebody for the rest of your life, be with somebody for the rest of your life… I don’t feel like government documents [are necessary].”
  — Tree Thomas (21:22)

• On LA Dating Culture:
  “I feel like LA girls... You ain’t never been to Appreciation Night?”
  — Paul Pierce (46:38, running joke)

• 2026 New Marriage Model:
  “We just created the 2026 new marriage.”
  — Paul Pierce (28:32)

• On Judging Suitors:
  “At first it’s all lights-cameras-action-glisten, then after the snap, crackle, pop… the milk shit gets soggy. Now, is it cool still to you?”
  — Paul Pierce (53:57)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment / Topic | |-----------|---------------------------| | 06:21 | Tree on music’s family roots and basketball culture’s role in his grind | | 09:49 | Discussion: Are overseas women more marriage material? | | 12:13 | Azar on historical/cultural origins of U.S. female independence | | 21:22 | Tree explains his stance on marriage without paperwork | | 28:32 | Paul proposes the “2026 new marriage” idea | | 33:20 | Megan Thee Stallion & Klay Thompson relationship discussion | | 47:30 | Tree’s dating preferences—values kindness most | | 55:20 | Azar defines comfort as main reason for parent’s marriage longevity | | 61:12 | Tree on dating communication and commitment | | 66:04 | Panel on LA’s “cheater hotspots” (Katana, etc.) |

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Tone & Language

The tone is lively, candid, at times playful, and reflects a generational, gendered back-and-forth. Azar regularly challenges both Tree and Paul on assumptions, injecting cultural context and a woman’s perspective. The guys offer honesty about their dating habits, aspirations, and frustrations, always bouncing between humor and sincerity.

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Final Thought

The episode blends sharp commentary on cultural issues with laugh-out-loud moments and personal confessions. Whether you’re looking for a meaningful take on modern relationships or just want to laugh at LA’s notorious dating pitfalls, this episode delivers. Tree Thomas emerges as a thoughtful voice navigating love in an ever-evolving social landscape.

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Follow Tree Thomas:

• Instagram: @tree.oxg
• TikTok: @TreeThomasX

Check out his upcoming single "Need Somebody" and LA performances at the Peppermint Club.

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Transcript

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[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Have you ever been to appreciation night?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

No. What's appreciation night?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

You can't stand him. He is so stupid.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

I've never.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

What is that?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

You ain't been in la?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, it's our thing that we made up.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

He's appreciation night. You gotta go to appreciation night.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

It's a night with all white girls. They say the white women appreciate them.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

You ain't misappreciation by yet.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Okay,

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

This is to taking over the game. All right everybody. Welcome to Truth After Dark.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Do you think that men or women are more toxic? Hello beautiful people. Welcome to another episode of the Truth After Dark. I am your host, Azar Faraday.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Paul Anthony Pierce, the Truth.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

And today we have a very special guest. All the way from Oakland, California, town business is an R and B singer. He used to play basketball and if you guys don't know about him, you will after this episode.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Up and coming artist, my man, he think he could hoop with you. You know he all right. He all right out there.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Welcome.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

But I know he could damn show sing. I know that much.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Okay, welcome. Tree Thomas. How are you tree?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

How you doing? How you doing? How y' all doing?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

How are you?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Excellent. I'm blessed. I'm grateful to be here.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Thank you for coming on the show.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

So we going to touch on, we going to get to know you and then we're going to hit some topics and and kind of see what your opinion on some things that we've talked about before or you know, current issues. But like man, you know I like to have you today man. And if people don't know, I think you got a dope ass voice, I think you got something and I think you gonna be an artist that people are gonna be talking about for a long time and we happy to have you here. But, you know, tell us a little about yourself, man. Like, you know, how did you get started in music? How long you been doing it? And, you know, where are you trying to go from here?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I'm trying to take it to. To the universe. But I started my family do music. My dad sing, my sisters sing, my aunties everybody sing. They heavily in the church, though. Yeah, but that's what kind of. I was a late bloomer with. I started off producing and rapping. My dad always had a studio in his house. He does his music like on the side as he. As he raised us. But I kind of was like a late bloomer with the singing. I was started out producing and rapping, and then I started taking lessons and like, kind of taking myself more serious with the music. And then I started honing into the R and B stage. But it started off slow. I didn't think I was going to become like a artist or a rapper. I thought if you six, eight, you gotta play basketball, you better, nigga, you better go get. Go get some rebound. What you doing in the fucking studio, right? That's what motherfucker used to tell me. So I was like late into thinking I can be an artist until I graduated college and then like, oh, okay, you can do this. You sound good. So it just came from like a background of family doing music and. Yeah, just. And the grind came from sports, though. I felt like the background was music, but the grind came from waking up five in the morning, getting shots in and doing these drills and get to college and pay professional. You know what I mean? That was like the grind. Now I transformed, transferred that over to music.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

That's dope. That's dope. What's up? What you got? What you got? So I just wanted to get it out to start out.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Okay, no, that's dope.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

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[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Overseas women over there was trash. I was on the island trash called Malta.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Malta, right.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Yeah, it was trash basketball for women. It was. I was the tall, I was the second tallest person on that island. So I don't really have the. I don't know it probably other situations where women are better, but I think American basketball, American women have an advantage. It wasn't really like I feel like they're behind with everything over there. Like.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Yeah, what about the women overseas in general, the one.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

What about them? Like what?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Like what you think she's saying? Like you was in one spot. Right. But I'm just saying do you believe that over overseas women are more marriage material than American women?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Yes, because I feel like a lot of American.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Pull your mic.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

American in inward. I feel like American women and what we want as a man, it's like they tainted a little bit overseas women, they are with the norm normalities of cooking, cleaning, the simple things, you know what I mean? So you don't really. It's not going to be a lot of arguments with them. It's not going to be a lot of telling them or just like things that go against the grain, you know what I mean? I feel like American women, I mean I'm not. I feel like I'm talking bad about America.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Nah, that's okay. It's a lot of people in your shoes

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

overseas.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

They just.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

With the simple things.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Right.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

But this is what I want to say.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Want the simple things.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

This is what I want to say about overseas women. Right. Overseas women were trained to be that way because the man was the provider and the steady head in the household. American women were not raised that way because a lot of black men were stripped from their households at a young age and they grew up without a father present. So they were raised by independent women. I know you were. So that changes a woman's dynamic because a woman is raised by an independent woman. She's being taught to be independent so she doesn't go through what her mother went through by being left alone to raise a child and have to struggle on. That's what I meant when I said there is. Overseas. Women do have an advantage when it comes to that, but they were also. They have men that are present, that are providers, that are taking care of the household. We do not have that now. We have men that want to go 50, 50 with you and want you to go work all day and then want you to come home and clean and cook for them, too. That's what we're dealing with. We're dealing with non traditional men wanting traditional women in the house. And that is my point. That's not how that goes. Like, at the end of the day,

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

get up. All right, listen. No, no, no. Let's talk about why. Let's talk about why women in America are the ones raising the kids. You know why? Because it's the. The women overseas don't divorce their husbands. American women, what's the percentage of them divorcing? They. They not leaving.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Did your mom divorce her husband? Is that why you didn't have a dad in your home?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

My mom.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

But he can be an example. My parents.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

He wasn't exactly. So there's a lot of people who have that situation.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Women in America leave their.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

He can be that men don't lead the winner for 45 years. So I know a good example.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

My parents been together for 50 years.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Okay. So that's like, you know what I'm saying? That example. But that's a percentage of the world, and we're a percentage of the world.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

But you can't say that women are leaving their men. And that's the reason.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Because a lot more people divorce their men. More so than the men. That's what I'm saying, though. But the women overseas are never. They have a culture to where they can't leave their man.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

There's a lot of men who aren't even marrying women anymore and haven't been marrying women. And especially in our culture, in black culture, you hear a lot more situations where a woman is left high and dry with her child from a man that she was in a relationship with who just left her, not because they divorced. Yeah. There's a certain economic place where people are getting divorced, but for the most part, there are families in which women are having babies with men and the men are just leaving them high and dry. And they have to be independent women. And that is a lot more likely than women divorcing men, period. So that's just the truth. And maybe in your economical sense, I

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

got to look at the percentages of all.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

A percentage of men that are left with their child because a woman is, wants to do this and that wants to be outside, wants to be on. That's also a percentage.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

But how much lower is that percentage? It's a lot lower. It's very much lower.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Very much lower.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

And so at the end of the day, the women are marrying their hut. They, They're. This is how it goes overseas. You get of age and at that point, you're marrying a man. Like in my culture, from my, my family in Iran, they're getting arranged marriages. You're marrying and you're taken care of as a woman, you're not worried about bills, trying to pay this, trying to be stressed out every day, going to work. You're not worried about that. When you turn of age, there's already a man waiting for you, ready to take care of you. Yeah, shit, if I had that too, I would be a goddamn cooking, cleaning wife all day. We don't have that same. That's not how it goes. I didn't turn 18 and get. So you cannot compare the two, though, because that's not the culture. Whereas women overseas may be better, the men are better too, because the men are doing things that these men are not doing. They're marrying, they're not dating women for, for seven years and putting babies in them and not marrying them. They're not doing that like they are out here. So if you want to talk about the woman, don't forget to talk about the man, because the man is the leader. The man is the one who sets the tone and sets the ceiling for women.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

All right, okay, so this is what I want to say. Well, when you look at, when you look at America, America is a multi. Is a melting pot of different races

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

from all around the world, right?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

So when we say overseas women and men, it's all about what that culture and what that country and what that continent is all about. You know what I'm saying? You got the Spaniards over here, you got the Italians culture over here. The, the, the, you know, the, you know, the Chinese over there. And they all have a culture. Whereas what's American culture when it's based on relationships. So you talking about not only black, you're talking about white, black, Chinese, Mexican, all these other races in one as a whole. The reason it's more stabilized because they all work with each other.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, for sure. I agree.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

They all work with each other and they like, this is our culture. We marry with. We marry out of race in America. All over there, they not really marrying out of race, but if they do, American men come in there and swoop you up. Training over there is immaculate.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

But guess what, though. The women who are getting swooped up by American men are there. Those women act different. And I've seen it. They act like they want what American women want.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I think everything you saying is valid. Everything that I feel about relationships and he feels about relationships and women and relationship is valid. I feel like the thing is the shift in the adaptation to y' all being more than what y' all were in the 1960s. Y' all can make more money, y' all can be more in front of a camera, y' all can do all of this. So now, independence. You got a woman that make $200,000 a year trying to find a man to take care of her and do that. A normal man makes 70, 80. Now you trying to find a man to do this, this and that. It's like a shift. So it's like. It's different, right?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

You.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Things that's going on that we gotta adapt to right now because everything that you're saying is valid, everything that we are agreeing with is valid, but it's like a shift. When my parents got together, it wasn't social media, it wasn't fucking. They got together in high school, had my sister, got married after my sister, had my other sister been together 40 years, but they didn't have like these different balances pulling them in social media. Being in Oakland and knowing what's going on in Miami, just by looking in your. On your phone, knowing all the women that's in Miami and looking at your phone and you. And they can't do that type of shit. So it's like a shift in everything. So everything we saying is valid, but it's about us learning how to adapt to what is the times now, I feel like. And it's very difficult, especially when you in a place like LA or you in a place like Miami where women are making millions.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

But even if they making millions, the social media platform has got these women famous and ego driven through the roof, right? So you can have a chick that's Broke. But she's social media, got so much followers, but her ego is too much for you to even handle. So now it's like, damn, you can't even talk to no nobody because of the perception of a female.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Or you can have a woman that's the perfect wife, but she makes $300,000 a year. And now she finds the perfect nigga. But now she don't want to fuck with this. She's finding every flaw in this nigga because she makes 300,000. He makes the normal wage that he's supposed to make. He makes the normal shitty post. But now she looking at him, degrading them, saying shit, talking to her about her friends, about him, because he makes the normal when he's posting or he makes a little bit more. You know what I mean? So it's like. It's like a balance. Like, if y'.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

All.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I feel like women are talk all this about me, oh, y' all not doing it. But it's like, we have to find this balance. Y' all gotta find a balance within yourself. We have to find a balance within dating culture and society, in the world and in la, which is more difficult when you're in LA and like Miami and Atlanta, if you're in normal parts of the world, these is getting married after two weeks, you in North Dakota, they fucking having great dating experience. It's difficult when you in LA and Miami and Atlanta trying to date and you make this much. You got a perfect nigger right here, but you looking at him crazy because he only make $100,000 a year, which is more than the normal nigger. He's much more.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

So what is your relationship status?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I'm single.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

You're single.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I've been single for the past four years. The last relationship I was in, it was like four. I'm a relationship, I'll be in relationship.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

How old are you?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I'm 36.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Okay.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

So my last relationship was four years. The one before that was five years. One before that was like three years. These last four years. I've been single since I've been in LA.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Nice. Since you've been in LA. You contributed to being in LA. Do you feel like LA is hard to date in la?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I wouldn't contributed to that because I came to LA with a purpose and I knew I wanted to be selfish with my time and do what I want to do to for my career. So I want to contribute it to la. But after being in LA for this long and getting the dating experience, I can see how it can be difficult for other people. I could have a wife two, three years ago if I wanted to, or if I. Or be a. In a relationship. Two, three. But I'm like locked in on what

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

I'm doing and I'm like, don't have time,

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

don't want to have time.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Don't want time right now.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Right now.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

You're young, you're 36, you know, working on. You want to get married? Yes, yes. You believe in marriage, but I don't

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

believe in the traditional. I don't believe in paperwork, documents. I feel like if you want to be with somebody for the rest of your life, be with somebody for the rest of your life, you can. I'mma get married to my wife. If she want to have the wedding, if she want to have the. If we pay for the big wedding, she want to ring, boom. But I don't feel like government documents. If we divorce, she get this. I get. I don't feel like you want to be with somebody. Be with somebody.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

How you going to go about that? Y' all get married. So y' all ain't gonna. You gotta sign something for that.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

No, if we want to be together. Oh, we're together.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

No, you can get married and technically just have a ceremony and a party.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

We can have a party. Whatever she wants.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

She want a big ass party.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

But we're not getting it documented by the government. We're not getting this legal marriage. That's that if we divorce, you get this. I get that. That's not what we came together.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

The only thing that blows me with that is like, if anything was to happen to you, because I've seen this recently and a lot like that woman will have no say in your life. Well, family members, but that's what I'm saying. But who knows you closer than the partner and the person you're with for the rest of your life? Her not being able to have any agency.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

My mom, my sisters, I got two sisters.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, but still like you if you're

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

with someone for that though, and then going into those situations, I feel like I'm blessed. I got two parents, have been together for 40 years. I got two older sisters, I'm the youngest. I got family to confide into that can. Some people don't have that and it's different situations. So I feel like.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

But also too, it's like you wanna. Like, if something was to happen to you and you had a wife, you wouldn't want to make sure she was straight.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Of course. Yeah.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

But without those paperwork, it's like, she's left tying.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

You could put it in a will.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You can put it in a will. I feel like we coming into this unionship. You coming in with what you got, I'm coming in with what I got and we bringing it together. If something happened, you should have a family. Like I should have a family. You should have some backup. Like I should have some backup.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

But what if she doesn't? How you making a woman? I don't.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

If she don't.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

What if I don't?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Then you don't.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

What if I ain't got.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Then we. Then I fuck each other. We have each other.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

We both fuck, but we got each other. If it goes right, we're banking on everything going right. So we have each other.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

So that's how I feel.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, you have each other.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Yeah, we got each other. If we banking on everything.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

It sounds like, say, you say, all right, we'll get married, ceremony, all of that. No paperwork. You put her in a wheel. Is that something like girls or a woman would be comfortable with? If that's just the only thing.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

No, this is the thing. And this is the thing.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

If you have certain things in the wheel, like she has creative control to talk about the house or the money or the bank accounts. Are girls comfortable with that?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I would if. If we did. Like, if I had that. And it was like, I. My biggest concern is always thinking about, like, because I have parents that are married and because I've seen this, like, I always just think about, like, if something was to happen to this person and then I'm not able to say anything like, you're not the wife. You're not the wife. You're not his wife. Like, that is the part that's like, damn. Like, they really treat you like that. Once someone dies, it's like, you're not his wife. You can't be in here. You're not the family, you can't be in the room. Like, that's how they.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

How many years you have to be with somebody?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Common law marriage.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

There's no Calamar, like California. Oh, how long you have to be with somebody to give them the will?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

So we're on to the will now, do you. I'm going to go back a little bit. Okay. Believe in marriage.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I do.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Government binding. You want to have that?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I don't care. So let me say this. I believe that marriage is a governmental contract. Right? I believe that your commitment should come far before you decide to marry somebody. Marriage. People go to marriage and think that this is going to create a commitment for us. My commitment with you is already between me, you, and God.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

That's what I'm saying.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

So I agree with what you're saying. And I think that there is a place where I would be comfortable probably marrying someone. I used to say this. I used to say that I would marry someone without any of the government paperwork. I used to say exactly what you're saying all the time. Until I started to see a lot of the things that were happening when people would die and it would be like, damn, I would want to be able. If something happened to me, I would want my husband who knows me the most. Even if I have sisters, two parents, this and that, this is the person I'm with every day. I want this person to know. Like, I talked to this person and told them I don't want to be putting on life support. I don't want to. I want them to be able to go in there and say that I want them to be able to have the agency over my body and my life and move around the way they need to move around.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

That's important.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

That's important to me. That's the only reason why I care about that. I will be down for all of that.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

So can you not have that with a will like he was.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

You can't. You. You would have to have a power of attorney over somebody's. Somebody. So you could do that if they gave you power of attorney. But just because you have a will, will just means. I'm not just talking about, I want money from you, so put me in your will so I can get the house. And this I'm talking about, like, I've been in real life situations where we had to pull the plug on people. I've been in real life crazy situations, and I've seen where a girl who was with this man for 20 years can't even come into the room, period. Because you're not family. You're not next to kin.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I'm not.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Like, that's blowing me. Like, that's gonna blow me.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

I got something to say. No, this sounds like the new marriage of this generation, I think. And I'm gonna speak to the camera. Like, it sounds like the new marriage. If you are with a lady or a man, and y' all been living together for, like, two or three years, and one of you guys decide you want to be with each other, but you don't want to get married, and then you say, hey, I'll put you in the wheel as long as we're together. You're in the will. When we break up, I'll change my will, if that's appropriate. To feel secure for a woman, that should be like, say, hey, we live together, honey. Oh, I don't feel secure. You know what? Let's put the will together. If something was to happen to me, you get the house. This is boom, boom, boom. Take care of that. Everything. You make all the decisions. I'm on life support.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Boom.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Does that matter now? Without us getting married, but we still together. If we break up, I tear up the wheel and make a new one. Does that solidify something that a woman can be, say, like, comfortable with or say, like, feel secure or feel safe with without getting married and being with a man?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

What do you think I would say,

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

like, I mean, it still puts you

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

in the same position. If it puts a person in the same position and we still did, like, a ceremony in front of God, yeah, then I would do it.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

That's pretty much what it is.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

If you with that, because while you're

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

alive, if you break up with him, it's like you're gonna tear the man down.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I would do that. I would do that. I think that if we still could have, like, a wedding with our friends in front of God, and we could still do that, and we worked it out on our own terms as far as what we felt comfortable with without government, like, I would do that. I would do that.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

We just created the 2026 new marriage.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

But by the way, I been said I would do this for a long time. I been said like what you said. I felt that way for a very long time. Like, all the governmental shit, I don't need, but I just want to make sure that if something was to happen to me, if something was happening to him exactly like that.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Y' all together. Y' all live together. He got the wheel straight.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

That's life insurance. That's real shit you can handle.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I would be super good to handle that shit on my own with just me and my partner. I would be down for that, and that's understandable. I would be down for that.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

That's the new bears 2026. Yo, let me copyright that, right?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

The Truth podcast. We just signified this.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

But I think for women, too, they want to feel like a man prop to them and they get the wedding.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

No, you get all of that. You still get all of that.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I think so.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I feel like a lot of women, a lot of people, they're just so used to their parents being married and their grandparents being married. Even, like, now that we got social media and we're learning that we're not supposed to eat steak and pork this much. We're not supposed to eat this much. And you tell your grandparents that they don't want to fucking listen. They like, oh nigga, this is the same thing. Like we've been doing things for so long, it's like, like they try to find the shit to pull against it, you know what I mean? Like I told my parents, you ain't supposed to be eating this and this and that. And then two years later they know, oh, you were right.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Let me tell you something, getting used to it, your parents immune system is way better than yours.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, it is.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

It probably is. They've been fucked up shit all their

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

life cause they wasn't in the diet error. And they, you know, he's a mutual system. A mutual system system is way better than yours.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

They can withstand way more than your system gets strong from doing up.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Yeah.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You know what I'm saying?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Now we live in a society that's healthy. It's the same.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

When you start doing that, your body is supposed to do water, vegetable. We're not even supposed to eat meat.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Your body adjusts to what you, it gets used to, it adjusts to that. That's why when you get a cut, it heals. It heals. You know what I'm saying?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Your body get adjusted. That's why when you fast and you only drink water, your body heals itself. You stop eating for three days, you think, oh, I'm hungry. Three, no, you ain't ate in three days. Your stomach hurt because it's healing you. That's a fast. What fasting do to you. It heals your body. Drinking water, seven days. Don't eat no meat, don't eat no processed food.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Much as we want to say this society today, eat right diet, exercise, more than any other error. Yeah, these motherfuckers smoked till they was 90 and was not going nowhere. Yeah, these motherfuckers was doing coke, crack, all that and was living to be 80s.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, the death now, you know people are dying younger. I mean younger. It's not older.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

That's what I'm saying.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Statistically people are dying younger. We used to drink out of water fountains. Now it's only

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

like now you drink.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

We're dying younger.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, we're dying younger. We're dying younger now.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Yeah.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

No, what do you mean? When we were young, people who got cancer, we always knew they were like 80. Now I have homegirls at 33 years old with Breast cancer, right?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Exactly.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Like I have friends who died from cancer at my age. We only knew about death where it was like a crazy accident. Cancer when you're old or you died from old age. It wasn't all of this other dying from 30. Because there's pesticides in our food. There's all this stuff now we're trying to be healthy, but it's fake healthy and they're just scamming us. And you think Whole Foods is good, but it's owned by Amazon and people

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

who are dying early for cancer. It's all got to do with hospitals and being in the hospital, Them wanting you to be in a hospital. You go into a hospital for cancer.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

How does this doctor get paid if you stay there?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, of course.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

So they're gonna. They serve people meat in the hospital. They serve people processed food and milk. All this thing that your body is not supposed to have to get rid of. Disease and illnesses in the hospital. Jello is mixed with high fructose corn syrup. That's not good for your body in the hospital, they try to keep you there. So if you got cancer, you come or think I might have cancer, they're gonna put you in the hospital, they're gonna make sure you got cancer. You know what I mean?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Make sure you keep it there.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Got all these things that you got. Yeah. So they can get paid.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

The hospital doesn't cure you, it makes you sicker.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

So that's why you gotta take care of yourself.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, I know. I'm like, what are we even talking about? So we recently had talked about Meg Thee Stallion and Klay Thompson and that was like such a big deal. What are your thoughts on that? Do you think that? What are your thoughts on that?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

What do they have going on? I don't even know.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Like, they broke up and Meg said that Clay cheated on her and she's done with him. And you know, it's just like, you know, it was a high profile relationship and it was just like they was all booed up and Instagram people don't

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

be knowing the underlying, like, shit. And when people. And when people like high profile people deal with women, there are, There has to be a. I felt like, according

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

to the public, you know, Megan Stallions was the high profile person over Clay.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

They both high profile.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

But the man is always here because the man always has to say, whether we're going to be girlfriend or boyfriend or we're going to get married. The man always has to say, right, you know what I mean? So you have to have that communication. When I feel like, even with me, like, I've had relationships out here where I've dealt with a woman for this long, but we never had that communication where, okay, we're together, we're doing this, doing that, like, we're committed to each other. I feel like social. I don't know. It's kind of hard, too, because I've never had a social media relationship where you just posting your relationship, but you also posting when you Are you with girls. But I don't know, I feel like it's just about the communication. I feel like I don't know they situation, but I feel like men and women don't communicate the standards that y' all want in a relationship. If y' all committed, if y' all not talking to each other, if y' all not.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

They bought a house together.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Let me ask you.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

They bought a house together.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

They bought a house together.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Let me ask you something.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

She was cooking for a time.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Have you ever committed to a girl just to get some, like, we together? No, no, just. It was like, damn. I've been trying to, you know, get at her, but she ain't. But then he was like, maybe, you know, she was like, you thought he did. Oh, no, I got right here. That's what it seemed like. You got to be her man to get. You don't get what he need to do it. Then he was like, you know, I'm good now.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

You buy a house with that?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Yeah, I could do that. I call Monopoly out here. I'm playing Monopoly house together.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

He named a boat after spent time with his family, cooked for his dad, was at Thanksgiving dinner.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Players go through extreme measures these days.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

That's not player. If you have to, I could introduce

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

you to my parents. We get a house, you know, I just want to.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

That's not player. That's not player.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

But do you understand says Cats is paying hundreds of thousand dollars these girls is asking for. Famous women ask for hundreds of thousand dollars just to go out with them. Like, all right, you what? All right, I'm gonna do you like this now since. All right, you know what? Why we live in that society? It's rumored that Jordan Poole gave Ice Spice a large amount of money to go out with her. And whatever they did, they did. And then next thing you know, it was over. And so when a dude do what he do, like Klay Thompson, I'm not even like. I'm like, you didn't have to do all of that. Probably but he did it. I don't have no ill will to neither one of them. It just is what it is. Y' all made y' all. Y' all relationship public, but dudes will do the extreme, and so will women, is what I'm saying.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

That's also could be what it is too. A social media relationship, a public relationship. There. Whatever they went through that caused a breakup could have been something that you talk about behind closed doors and y' all get over.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Yeah.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

But since it's on social media and everybody's seeing it now, Meg got to feel a thousand times more emotional about it. Clay gotta feel a thousand times more emotional about it. Even if he was in a club and he hugged a girl for too long, that's something they can get over. Or even if it was a cheating situation. A lot of relationships get over cheating situation. But once it gets to social media, in the public, it's like public embarrassment. Now it's embarrassing for me to forgive this man that I really love. And I feel like he's perfect for me, even though if I just forgive him, we work on it. It could be okay. But I'm embarrassed now. I mean, it can go both ways.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Even if embarrassment does is tough, it

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

can go from both ways. Yeah, the public embarrassed, but it's like, like, public

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

humiliation.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Humiliation Humiliation. And like, that's like something big and, like, very prevalent. And like.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah. I think that when things are public or things happen, you know, in the public eye, it makes it harder for people to get past.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

That's like Jay Z and Beyonce. Only thing we saw was the elevator. Yeah, that's only thing we saw. And they still together. It's probably been hundreds of more incidents. Because also, she was just like, okay, I'm gonna forgive you. Or she was like. Or he was like, oh, you talking to this nigga still. Okay, well, we got this marriage. I'm gonna forgive you. But we don't know about that.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Right?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Well, that's because, too now we're in the era of women blasting everything on the Internet. And I think that's the most corny, weird shit ever. Like, I will never put my business on the Internet. When it comes to. Even if I had a public relationship and I posted it, if we ever went through anything, it's never going on the Internet. And anyone who puts my business on the Internet, I'm never talking to you again. Like, I'm good. Bye. I'm done. Because I don't like that what we go through should be what we go through. It's not for people to analyze it to decide, da, da, da, da. I don't fuck with that. Like, even I'm very particular about my relationship. Even if people ask me, oh, like, nah, I'm not telling you my business

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

because so imagine if Clay and Megan had they situation, it wasn't on social media, and they sitting here and they talking about it, and they got everything that they built behind them. Clay got. And they talking about it like, okay, it's no, no public embarrassment, humiliation. They're like, oh, this happened. Okay, this better not happen again. Let's set some standards for this. Not tapping in. Let's test some boundaries, and now let's move on. But since it was like, oh, you gonna embarrass me in front of all my stallions and all the millions, the truth about it. I just want five championships. All the people that with me, I'm gonna look this way. Like, it's like, if they didn't have, that'd probably be a different story.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

I actually didn't publicly embarrass her. She the one that announced it, truthfully. So, like, maybe she got ahead of it before it got out. Maybe she wanted to do that before it became public embarrassment. Who knows? But like, she put it out.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Or maybe she was angry. You know, women get angry, and in the midst of their anger, they're like, I'm gonna make this so clear that I'm not fucking with you and I'm gonna hurt you. And I'm post this, and I feel like a lot of women, we act emotionally and we have emotional responses to things, and we're like, we're gonna put this out and we're gonna say this and we're gonna do this. And it's like, you know, she hasn't said anything since then. It's different if she continues to post about it. Like, it's one thing if a woman puts something on the Internet one time and then they're like, we're not doing it again, but then you keep doing it, it means, like, mentally you doing weird shit. And. But if you did it one time, it could have been out of a lashing out anger, and she might regret ever putting that out there. She might really regret that and be like, damn, we could have probably made this work. Now I' ma look stupid. Now I can't. And that's why women, they, you know, like, I've been in a relationship like this before where I are like, I would never blast nobody. But, you know, you tell your friends certain stuff and you're like, damn, girl, he did this, he did this. You're venting and then you still want to be with him. So now I'm having a secret relationship and I'm like, dude. And then something happens and my homegirls are like, what? You still with him? Thought you were done. I'm like, no, we still together, you know, because you feel stupid, like you don't want no one to know you're still messing with this man. Cuz you done blasted his whole thing to your home, girl.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

But that's like the natural that we're used to that, the natural that we came from that our parents come from. Not having social media, not having people in your ear about the relationship with your man. If you want to forgive him, you're going to forgive him. He want to forgive you. Y' all gonna forgive each other. Like now it's like, it's just everyone like different but women should have from all directions.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I think for me, me and my homegrown have one homegirl and she's married and we tell each other about our relationship. And like what? Like if I'm venting, I have that one friend because I know she's not gonna judge it. She's not gonna tell me, leave them. She's not gonna be like girl F him because we are both level headed and we're realistic. So she'll tell me stuff about her marriage, I'll tell her stuff about my thing and we'll be like, the vice is never like leave him. It's not coming from a miserable place. So women have to be very careful. I always tell women this, do not vent your business to your homegirls. You might have one friend you tell. Like I have one homegirl and a sister who's been married for 30 years to her husband. So those are the people that I'll talk and I know they'll give me very level headed advice. Yeah. Because they'll be quick to tell me like, nah, you wrong for that. That or you're over it. Like I'll be mad at something. They're like, nah, you tripping.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

But it's like different levels to that. Like you say don't, don't talk about your personal with your homegirls. But it's girls that it's. Posting your relationship is the same thing. Letting everybody know you're in a relationship and now social media is involved and like it's like involving the outside world can become a hindrance.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I agree.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Nowadays I feel like, because when you go through something that's small the outside world is going to make you feel like it's bigger than what it is.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I agree.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You know what I mean? If you go through something that you can get through personally as a woman or a man, that your friends or social media is going to show you all the memes that said you shouldn't get through this and you shouldn't do this or put up with this or this woman. You know what I mean?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

So as soon as you're in an argument with some. With your partner, the social media is like iPhone, no, they gonna send you all that man does not love.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Soon as you turn on Instagram, you gonna scroll. It's gonna be right there.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

They do it. Be like, that man doesn't love you. He doesn't. He's not taking you serious. If he did this, he doesn't want to be with you. You're like, damn. Every clip, tarot card readings my tarot saying, if you're an Aries and he's a this like, damn.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

And then that's what I also think about my parents. Your parents been. Been together for a long time. I seen my parents argue one time in my 36 years of living. I saw him argue one time and I remember it to the T. Everything where, what I was eating, what I had on, where we was at. I was in a living room eating breakfast, eating cereal. Lucky Charms, they talking back and forth. And now my mom is like, I said my tree, go to your room. He's like, go to your room. So I'm like, okay, what the. I'm going to my room. I go to my room now. They yelling and screaming. This is the only time I ever seen them argue in my life. Other than that, I never seen them argue ever have a confrontation. My mom is not confrontational. I've never seen her argue with nobody in public. Them in public. But I'm also like, did if. What did they hide that from me? Or did they argue on the side but. Or did they have a great marriage that just. They didn't argue that much because they still together today and I'll never. They don't argue. They don't do nothing.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Yeah, but it's like marriage where you hide the arguments because when you don't care and you argue in front of the kids, you don't give a damn.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

How many times have you seen your parents argue and they've been together for how long they've been together or heard it?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, like 50 years. I see my parents argue a few times.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Yeah, there's a few like five.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I don't know. I'll be honest. Like. Like, maybe like three. But I. I would say that my parents like.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

But I think that's important because I don't want to have a relationship where I'm arguing with my wife ever. I want what I remember as a child.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

That's not realistic.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I know, but it's not realistic. But that's what I'm judging. And I'm going about my dating lifestyle. Like, I don't want a woman that's argumentative. I don't want a woman that I gotta argue with multiple times a month, even once. Cause I've never seen my parents do that.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Let's stay on.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I don't want that.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Like you said, you want a woman that don't argue. So single now, are you currently young, still up and coming artist in la. Tall, handsome guy right here type shit. Probably attract a lot of the ladies. What's the date? Are you dating?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I am dating. I am dating. I have some. I have some prospects that I would like to take to the next level in the dating. And I feel like I'm at an age where I want to be serious with someone and yeah, seriously dating. Commit to someone right now. So I haven't, like, fully committed, but I have. I'm dating. I feel like. I would say. Yeah.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

All right. So the dating scene in la, it's rough, though.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

It's rough. I feel like. Like I gotta go to damn near Texas or something. Or like Georgia and get some. I feel like LA girls is just like. Like we started. You ain't never been to Appreciation Night with the.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Have you ever been to Appreciation Night?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

No. What's Appreciation Night?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I can't stand him. He is so.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

I've never.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

What is that?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

You ain't been in la?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, it's our thing that we made up.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

He's Appreciation Night. You gotta go to Appreciation Night.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

It's a night with all white. White girls. They say the white women appreciate them.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

You ain't miss appreciation by yet.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Okay.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

What is your type of a woman like? Do you date white women? Do you like black girls? Do you like mixed girls?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I dealt with skinny, fat, nationalities, but I feel like I would want to marry and be with a black woman.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Okay.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

And I don't feel like I have a tie. My type is, of course, beautiful, but my main thing I look for is just kindness.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Oh, I love that.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I want someone that's kind because that's what the woman in my life exude. My mom, my grandma. If you like anybody Walking across, like land on the ground, like homeless person. They just kind to everybody. I've never seen them argue in public. So the main thing I leave with, if you beautiful and you kind. Yeah, I would consider dating. I would, yeah, go on a date. Like, I would figure you out and try to learn some more.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

So do you feel like that's hard in la?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Yes.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

So you said LA women are X, Y and Z. But I want to clear this up. These are people who move to la. These are not people who are from. I'm from la.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

It's very easy.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

It's very different when you move. It's like people always like, LA people are this. It's these weird people that are coming from other places and moving here and trying to be, Trying to adapt and they think this is the. To be my homegirls who are really from la. And all of us are down to earth, Earth cool women. It's the women that come out here that are not from here and they want to create this Persona for themselves and be, oh, stuck up and this and that. Like, I'm not stuck up at all. Like, I'm a down to earth cool person and people always think, based on how I look, that I would be like so mean and stuck up. But I'm not like. And LA women are solid women. So I have to write.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I can understand that and feel that. I meet a lot of women out here that's from different parts of LA and they. It's the. Mainly, like you said, the people that come from the outside and they trying to adapt to the LA culture of. You know what I mean? But I can feel that. I can understand that. What's your dating life like in la? You single right now? What's your, like, what you doing?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

I'm chilling right now.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

What you doing?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Chilling, you know what I'm saying? Chilling. I'm getting old, man.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You getting old?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

But I've been trying. I've been. I didn't been in.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

But in your mind, do you have like. I want to lock in with one woman eventually or at this point, I'm always.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

I'm at, I'm at that. Yeah, for sure.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Okay.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Yeah.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

But you chilling right now.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Yeah, I'm chilling right now.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Cause you in LA and it's hard. Like we were just talking about.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

You ain't trying to deal with stress. Ain't nothing hard about it for me. I live in a whole different world than you.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Okay.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

You know what I'm saying? I live in a home. I believe that you, you, you you, you. You out there. You. You. You cracked it. You know what I'm saying? You.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I'm.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

I'm in the backyard, you know what I mean? I'm going to the workout. I'm golfing. I'm like, you know, you. I'm not putting myself out there, you know what I'm saying? So I'm just kind of like sitting back, taking deep breaths, you know what I'm saying? Just. Just mentally just stable and just not having to worry.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

How do you feel about that? It's like you kicking back and you.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

I'm at peace.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You older than me.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

I'm at peace with life.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You at peace.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

But I done everything that you're gonna go through or already been through.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Do you feel like you. You older than me, will be able to trust somebody to spend the rest of your life with? Going into a relationship right now, is that like one of the things that you think about? Okay, I'm like. But like, you have a lot established, a lot of. You know what I mean? You gotta trust somebody new to come into your life after you've done built 40 or 30 years of what you done built, right? You know what I mean? Now you have to have somebody come in and be that person. Is that something you fear? Are you okay with? Like, you can just bring somebody in.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

I think that's something you always fear, you know what I'm saying? Being somebody that, you know, been established in sports and TV and doing stuff, I think you always fear that. But, like, you know, sometimes you gotta face your fears and sometimes you gotta jump and take the risk.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Right?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

You know what I'm saying? You don't know what's what until you risk. But it's up to you, as you get older to realize and be smart about the choices that you make too. Like, you have to have a good judgment on character with people. And I think for the most part, I think I've done that, you know, being that none of my relationships was been in the social media, you know what I'm saying? Like, my relationships ain't really been publicized. It ain't really no drama. And I think that's a judgment on character or the people that you around and you feel that, you know what I'm saying? I could go around a girl, but then 30 minutes, I know I'll never talk to her, right? Like, I don't care. The outside is all glistening and shiny, and it looked like this. It'll look like a Corvette or Lamborghini. Turn the. On that. Oh, it was from 1986, like, damn, the engine was beat up. The engine all beat up. The trans, they need a new transmission. But we get all enamored with the outside, you know what I'm saying? I'm more focused on, like, the inside of a person, and I can see that and I can feel that. That, you know, at this stage. And it's.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

What do you see? What do you think is the woman that can walk into your life and be that person for you at this state in your career, in life? What do you think? What she got to look like? What she got to.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

She got to be humble. I think she got to have a beautiful soul. I think she got to be caring for others and I think attentive, you know, to the needs of our man. I think all women, no matter who they are, should be that, you know, that's a natural for sure. But I think just like it's little things as you get older, like, genuine. Just a genuine. You can feel genuine, you know what I'm saying? Genuine ain't a look. You could come across somebody like, damn, they was hella genuine. They didn't have to do all that. Like, you know, it's like little traits. When you get older, you start looking at. You look at it. You look at the broader picture of a person instead of the outside when you get older. Like when I'm young, outside cracking, right?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

That.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Oh, damn.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You know what's gonna sustain.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Yeah, you know, now, everything else, you already look for sustainability.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Sustainability, That's a great word.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

You know what I'm saying? And what does that look like to you, though, right? You know, you know, once the makeup come off, once the. Everything is undressed and, you know, everything about this person, like, what is it now? You know? Cause at first it's all lights, camera, action, glisten, this snap, crackle, pop. Then after the snap, crackle, pop, you know, when you still eat it on snap, the milk shit gets soggy. Now, is it cool still to you?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

What do you think is the reason your parents stayed together so long?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Comfortability.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Comfortability. Sustainability.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Comfortability.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Like, what about. What did they do every day to make each other that comfortable or sustainable?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

She don't know.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I don't know. I'm not in their relationship.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

The kids don't know.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Because think about this.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

What do you move out?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

When I was 17. I didn't really live with my parents, though.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I was like. And then you moved out when you were 17?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Well, technically, when I was 14.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You moved out when you was 14, but they were married from 0 to 14.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

They're married my whole life.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Okay, so she don't. 0 to 14. After you moved out, what did you see in your parents that you feel

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

like, what do I see that.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

No, not with that you. Makes you do anything. What do you say?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Comfortability, familiarity and convenience.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

That's normal in a lot of relationships.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

A lot of people, once you get

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

past a certain age, you thought they were comfortable with each other, normal with each other, and the relationship was. You don't think it was like, nothing about love and how they don't.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

After a long time of being married with someone, after that many years, you can't live in a fairy tale world. You with someone for 50 years, it's comfortability at that point, like, you're familiar with this person. You love them. This is someone that you're with. You know what I mean? But, like, they've been together forever. So.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

So where you gonna go now?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, where My mom. My dad is 70.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Where you go trust somebody that you gonna be with the rest of your life?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

My dad is 78 years old.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Look at it.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You've been.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

You've been single four years, right? So, like, if you leave a relationship, you could never get into another relationship again.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

That's what I'd be saying nowadays. This 40, 50 years old, getting divorced and separating. And right now, like, what the are y' all doing? Like, I don't. That's like, going on right now because, I mean, we're like 56. Is people that have been together a long times getting divorced.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Yeah, that'll make sense. That don't make sense.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Been with this person this long. But. But I'm trying to think of what you said with my parents is, have they just been together because they comfortable.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Your parents feel like they did a

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

lot for me, really love each other. They really supported each other. I don't know. I mean, it could be what you said. Like, are they comfortable? They. But no, the feeling that I got from them and what I still get from them now is love.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

That's amazing.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

They really love each other. They support each other. My dad does music. He's the reason I do music. Yeah, he had a music studio in the crib since I was born, but I have friends that's gotten married, does music like I do. And when during their marriage they start doing music and their wife is like, okay, you need to stop doing music and take, take and do this, do that. Take care of the kids. You need to take your son. But my mom was like, my mom Never told my dad to stop doing music. He never like, oh, you need to leave your studio and come up here and spend time with Tree. You need to come spend time play basketball with him. No, she let him have his time in the studio. She let him have his. Their whole life. You know what I mean? So I feel like it's about like love and giving that person what they giving them their purpose. They feel like their purpose is music, basketball, supported, you feel me? Cause I have a lot of friends that like divorce because you try to

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

take it away from them old school values. But every foundation is different.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Yeah.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

You know what I'm saying? Where you think you see what you see and the longevity that they have, it's another reason for another couple for their longevity.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

And my dad was married two times before he got with my mom and had four kids already.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

See, that's different too.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, my dad is. Yeah, he was already married twice and got it right. Yeah. Every woman he had kids with, he was married to. So my dad has three different baby moms, he has six children and he was married twice before he got with my mom. And then him and my mom been married for the rest of their life or whatever. His other kids live in different states. So, you know, like he, wow. Did his big one or whatever. So at the end of the day, you know, everyone is different. But I'm the person. The reason I haven't got married because I've been engaged and I'm like, like once I marry someone, I'm not getting divorced.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Exactly.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

You have to go take a nap.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

I'mma go.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

When we go, go to the store, you gonna take a nap, wake up. We gonna figure it out once. I promise you I'm not. We gonna figure this out. We are not getting a divorce.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I feel like I'm my age and I'm not rushing into no relationship. I'm not. There's been like situations with me where girls is pressuring me. I've been talking to them for a long time. They pressure me to be in a relationship. I. I just don't feel like it's the right time or it's not for me. You know what I mean? So that's one of the reasons I've been single for so long. Because I don't wanna. If you showing me that you argumentative and you get attitudes in these scenarios, that's not something I wanna. But it's also I feel like I got a fault if I'm like dealing with these women in these situations. They showing me that they're not the wife that I want to be. I continue the relationship instead of saying, instead of switching or cutting it off. I give them a chance to change.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

But then, man, how much time you got?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

They don't. You know what I mean? I stay in that relationship and then it's like, okay, it's not a marriage bound relationship, but I'm still in it because I don't want to communicate that you not doing. You know what I mean?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

So how many women are you entertaining today?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Right now?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Right now?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Two.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

They know?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

No.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Well, you just told us.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

But it's okay because they're fresh. It's fresh. They know I'm dating people. We just, it's just like, you know what I mean? It's okay.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, when you're dating, you're dating and dating, you're dating. It's about communication.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I didn't communicate in the past, like what I'm. I'm single right now. I want to be. I'm dealing with it now. I'm better communicator. I feel like. And I like, I definitely know what I want, but I definitely was not as good as telling girls, okay, we are not committed to each other right now.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

You just some work.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You just, I mean, we just dealing with each other. We just dating right now. Like we ain't committed to each other right now.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

How long before you have to be with him to commit? I feel like after. I feel like if we went on three or four dates, we're close to committing.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You're close. I feel like three or four dates makes the girl thinks y' all committed. But I feel like it still need to be communicated. Y' all need to have that conversation. What y' all doing? Are we committed or who you dealing with right now? It's still gotta have that conversation. I feel like men go about relationships and dealing with women and not having that conversation. Are we committed? What are we doing? What are setting standards? I didn't do that in the past and I feel like a lot of women don't do that with the, the men they deal with setting standards and communicating like, okay, we've been went on this many days, we had sex this many times. If you want this out of me, this what I need.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

How many? So you entertaining two women. How many dates have you been on with them? Like

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

both of them.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Like this is like each like maybe three or more than three or four of both of them?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Yeah. Not a lot because I'm like, how

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

many dates does it take before it goes down?

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

What Goes down.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Sex.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Sex.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Yeah.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

It can take no dates. What do you mean

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

no dates? It could take no sex.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Then you ain't never had.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

You're talking to Paul Pierce, you don't think he's had that?

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

That's what I'm saying.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

What is the question? This nigga's eyes.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

I know you had that.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Had some shit without a date.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

No, I'm not condoning that.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

But one is normal. But sometimes without a date. Sometimes without a date.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

So the. So, okay, okay. But with these two right now, currently,

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

what type of nigga? A lot of niggas is not us. Us six, eight, good looking. So you can just go out. And a lot of niggas is not us.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

So is that what women just want? Like, honestly? Because I don't know, like, I.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

What?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Cause I'm so confused. Like. Cause I be thinking like, man, because you're tall. Like, I've never looked at a man. My dad is tall as fuck too, but I never looked at a man like, he's tall. I just want to give him some cat. I don't care.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

But look, you haven't looked at him like that. But you looked at a short and been like, no.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Like you were walking down the street because you have.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You probably don't want to marry a man that's shorter than you.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

No, no. My sister is married to a man that's shorter than her. He's the most gangster. No, if it was the same situation, I would do that. I would do that.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Okay.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Like, I would do that. That's the thing. Like, you don't realize that my. One of my Exes is like 510 and I'm 5 6. So, like, I don't. I don't. I never looked at a man like, he's tall. There's other things that I look for in a man. Like, if you're walking down the street, I'm not gonna be like, he's so tall, girl, he's fine. Like, I probably wouldn't even look twice. Not because you're not a handsome man. Just because that's not like something I think about. Like, I'll be like, you know, whatever. You know, it's just like, it's a

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

lot of women that can do that and that's. But that's just like a thing.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

But, you know, I know women really like that. Like, they think like, oh, shit, like, I'm only looking twice if I think a man is like, super fine.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Yeah. Like, if it's special, we're top. Top five, top 7% of the world.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

We special. I get that.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

We gonna. You can't. You ain't gonna take our specialness away from us.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

No, I don't only date short, first of all. But I'm saying, like, I don't. It's crazy that women. I know. It's a thing. Women love a tall man. Like, I promise you, like, I, I never been like that. Like, I don't double take unless I think the man is like, fine as hell. You know what I mean? Like, I might double take Paul if he was walking past me.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Damn.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Anyway, so we're gonna do a little segment really quick. This segment is brought to you by Row Body. So think. Speaking of LA and being in LA and dating people, what are some of the top spots? You think you can get caught cheating in la? Like where if you're cheating, you're not taking. Yeah, don't go to Joey's.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Don't bring your girl to Joey.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Don't do it.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

100.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

It's a lot of small restaurants around Joey's that you can go to instead of going to.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Oh, you're thinking about downtown Joey. Downtown Joey. It's a lot of small restaurants.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

If y' all want to go somewhere. If you're dealing with somebody, it's like a couple Japanese spots like on the left hand side that you can go to. Just don't go into Jo.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

But what if she's like, I want to go somewhere nice, fancy. I'm a vibe like, you know you

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

going to get caught cheating at Katana.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, Katana for sure.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Don't get caught cheating there. Don't go there. Come on now, try to slide.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Any spot like that's high end, like Katana, you going to get caught at Drake, you're going to get caught at Casa Madera.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

No, you ain't going to get caught at Drake.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

No, I think you are. When you go at a certain time. If you go at a certain time.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Because you got to be like, they got to be able to get in there without you sometimes. Like they some people, if it's too high caliber, they ain't even going unless they with you.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I feel like that's not all the way true. It depends on what type of woman it is. Because I'm going without. With or without a man.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

If a brought you there you go, just.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Okay, yeah, I'm gonna go there. I think most women these days will go there, you know, like, I don't think that that's a thing these days. Women go out to eat fancy with Their friends all the time. Catch. You gonna get caught up at Catch. Nobu in Malibu.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

You gonna get caught up cheating at the improv comedy. For sure. For sure. You think you're gonna be sliding there? It's all dark. Somebody gonna spot you karaoke on Monday.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You might want to pick your right karaoke spot.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Oh, man.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, there's a lot of. There's a lot of spots that will get you caught up in la. You gotta be careful. You gotta just have them come to the house.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

House, yes.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

You gotta be a house. I don't. I don't think you should cheat, but I'm saying, yeah, don't cheat. That's really.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Black men don't cheat. So whatever y' all doing, y' all figure that out, right?

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

You know, I mean, I don't cheat. Black women don't cheat either. Mixed women, black women, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, I'm not cheating either. So I'm just saying not. None of my exes can ever come out and say that I cheated on them.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I was watching another episode, y'. All. Did you say, oh, I ain't never cheated? Oh, I did one time when I was, like, 14.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Yeah, when I was 14. I don't count that, though.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You can't not count on that count.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I was 14 years old. I was a kid.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

But you have to account for.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

And I kissed it. I kissed a boy with a peck. Like, I wasn't even having sex yet.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Account for it. Don't say the only reason why. I said, don't meet a new Nobu and be like, y' all. Just. Y' all yapping it up, y'.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

All.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Oh, I've never cheated that. Tell him about that time when I was 14. You gotta tell him that.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I told the whole podcast I was 14.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Y.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

But it was a man manipulation that I was under, because it was a whole thing. I was young. It was. I wasn't having sex yet, so it don't even count. But at the end of the day, in my adult relationships, no, I have not cheated on any man.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Okay.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

I have not. You know, but anyways. This segment was brought to you by Robody. Go to Ro Truth for your free insurance check. Thank you so much, Tree, for coming on the episode.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Before we go.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Go ahead.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Before we go, let everybody know where they can find you. Talk about your music and, you know, what's next.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

I got a song actually coming out next week called Need Somebody, produced by myself. The last four or five singles I put out, I produced. So I'm really excited about that. I'm gonna be at the Peppermint Club again, where you saw me on the 21st, again in LA.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Okay.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Nice with the spotlight, right, Dallas? Yeah, Dallas is my brother. Shout Out Dallas.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

Yeah. You can find me on social media. Tree period. Oxg on Instagram and Tree Thomas X on Tik Tok.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

We'll put it all in the description too, so you guys can check out his music. Follow him, ladies, if you're single.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

And I want to say, before we get off, give you your flowers for being a legend and inspiring me to be who I am. Growing up, my best friend was. He was. You were his favorite player.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Yeah.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

So every time I'm. I was a Carmelo. Melo was my. So every time I talk about Melo, he's like, oh, Paul Pierce had 30. Paul Pierce had 40, nigga. Oh, Paul Pierce did this. So, like, that was a part of my growing up, you know what I mean? And I. It's like, I appreciate that and I want to give your flowers for being a legend, being dope, and continue doing what you do and coming to my show. When I asked you to come to my show.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

Pulled up.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You feel me? Pulled up. A lot of. Don't do that out here in la. You tell them to come to some. You know, this pulled up, like. And that, like, gave me some flame that, like, had me have the performance that I have. And I'm glad it, like, sparked that and had me here today. So I just want to give you your flowers and I appreciate you for trying to shine the spotlight on me and introducing me to. To. To your people and. And bringing me into this world.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

I appreciate it, man. Thank you, man. So, like, check it out. Follow my boy, Tree. His music is dope. I saw it firsthand, live. Hey, you got some good, man. Appreciate you coming on, man. Thanks for coming out.

[Tree Thomas (Guest, R&B singer and former basketball player)]

You.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

Thank.

[Paul Anthony Pierce]

You. This is to taking over the game. All right, everybody. Welcome to Truth After Dark.

[Azar Faraday (Host)]

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