Unc CALLS OUT Ocho for MADDEN Ratings! Part 1: Mahomes & Chase not 99 & Cam Ward is a 72 overall!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay – "Unc CALLS OUT Ocho for MADDEN Ratings! Part 1: Mahomes & Chase not 99 & Cam Ward is a 72 overall!"

Release Date: August 3, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media
Description:
NFL legend Shannon Sharpe—3x Super Bowl champion and member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame—sits down with the biggest athletes, celebrities, and influencers to discuss their accomplishments, challenges, and everything in-between.

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1. Introduction

The episode delves into a heated discussion surrounding Madden NFL ratings, focusing on Shannon Sharpe’s interaction with Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson) regarding the current ratings of notable players like Patrick Mahomes, Jamar Chase, and Cam Ward. The conversation highlights the discrepancies between players' real-life performances and their in-game ratings, sparking debates among fans and gamers alike.

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2. Madden Ratings Controversy

a. Cam Ward's Rating Discrepancy

• Chad Ochocinco (00:58 - 03:08):
  Chad initiates the conversation by expressing dissatisfaction with Cam Ward's Madden rating, who received a 72 overall, a figure Chad considers unjustifiable given Ward’s collegiate performance and potential in the NFL.

  "Cam Ward did not even crack the top 10 of Madden rookie ratings. Some are calling it an absolute joke. Ojo, what you got to say for yourself?"
  (03:08)

b. Comparison with Other Rookies

• Chad Ochocinco (05:13 - 15:06):
  The discussion shifts to other rookies like Travis Hunter (84), Aston Genti (83), and Caleb Williams (76). Chad argues that ratings should align more closely with on-field performance and accolades. He questions why rookies, even those with impressive resumes, start with relatively low ratings.

  "Why is it so hard though for rookies to come into Madden with like an 86, 88 rating?"
  (05:13)
  "Cam Ward was phenomenal at UM in turning that program around. But listen, this is what we saw fit to put him as before the season starts."
  (03:20)

c. Justifications for Current Ratings

• Unknown Guest (03:20 - 07:10):
  The guest defends the ratings, emphasizing that many players haven't played a down in the NFL yet, and their ratings are subject to change based on in-season performance.

  "You have to remember some of these players haven't played a down in the NFL yet. And everybody wants their ratings to be super high when they've done nothing."
  (03:34)

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3. Players' Reactions and Expectations

a. Ocho's Response to Criticism

• Unknown Guest (08:44 - 10:19):
  The guest highlights that players are aware ratings are based on past performances and encourages patience as ratings can improve with consistent play. Chad adds that not everyone will be satisfied with their initial ratings, regardless of their star power.

  "Somebody didn't get a 90. He probably like, 'Man, I should be a 99.'"
  (06:57)

b. Defending Ratings and Future Potential

• Unknown Guest (07:10 - 07:41):
  The guest asserts that Cam Ward has significant potential and that his current rating is merely a starting point, expecting it to rise as the season progresses.

  "There's nothing wrong with Cam Ward. He's a great quarterback. I'm hoping he's quarterback number one for Tennessee. But listen, a 71 isn't justifiable which most rookies come in at the quarterback position."
  (07:10)

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4. Gaming Perspective and Player Performance

a. The Gap Between Ratings and Gameplay

• Chad Ochocinco (09:48 - 12:10):
  Chad emphasizes that in Madden, player ratings are subjective and not everyone can be satisfied. He compares Madden ratings to sports like diving and gymnastics, where subjective judging is inevitable.

  "Whenever you're dealing with something subjective, there's going to always be a problem with the judges."
  (07:41)

b. Transitioning Ratings Through Gameplay

• Unknown Guest (12:22 - 16:38):
  The guest explains how ratings can evolve based on week-to-week performance in Madden, encouraging players to improve their ratings by enhancing their in-game skills.

  "By week to week, week to week as you ball and you play consistent, you got Calvin really over there, huh? You got Tyler Lockett. I know what you're gonna do."
  (05:13 - 07:10)

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5. Interactive Banter and Community Engagement

a. Engaging with Fans and Other Gamers

• Chad Ochocinco and Unknown Guest (27:44 - 47:58):
  The conversation takes a playful turn as Chad challenges the Unknown Guest to a Madden duel, highlighting their competitive spirits and passion for the game. They humorously discuss the potential outcomes and stakes of their hypothetical matchups.

  "Has anybody seen Chad Ochocinko play Madden? I know he's an avid gamer."
  (41:49)
  "You is elite, Joe. You hear me?"
  (09:50)

b. Addressing Ratings and Personal Achievements

• Chad Ochocinco (35:22 - 36:35):
  Chad brings up other top-rated players in Madden, comparing their real-life performances to their in-game ratings, reinforcing the idea that high ratings should correlate with exceptional on-field achievements.

  "I'm gonna be one of the few guys that's ever been a hundo."
  (55:00)
  "If you'd have gave him a 97, I don't think he could have been mad considering how he played."
  (35:11)

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6. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

The episode wraps up with a reinforcement of the subjective nature of Madden ratings and the importance of continual performance both in real life and within the game. Shannon Sharpe recapsv the key points, emphasizing the balance between fan expectations and the complexities of player ratings.

"You can play and change that grade."
(15:06)

"Nothing like football. Football, Shake. But playing football."
(23:34)

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Chad Ochocinco:

  "Cam Ward did not even crack the top 10 of Madden rookie ratings. Some are calling it an absolute joke. Ojo, what you got to say for yourself?"
  (03:08)
  "Why is it so hard though for rookies to come into Madden with like an 86, 88 rating?"
  (05:13)
  "You can't please everybody, man."
  (15:06)
  "Lamar Jackson in 2019 was a 79. Trevor Lawrence in 2022 was a 78."
  (11:10)
  "I'm gonna start gaming. I'm gonna get good to beat the breaks off you, Ocho."
  (47:43)
  "What game?"
  (31:25)

• Unknown Guest:

  "You have to remember some of these players haven't played a down in the NFL yet."
  (03:34)
  "Travis Hunter, a special individual."
  (03:22)
  "There's nothing wrong with Cam Ward. He's a great quarterback."
  (07:10)
  "He could break it down in PowerPoint presentation."
  (12:09)
  "Aaron Rodgers, he's not the Aaron Rodgers of old."
  (50:18)

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Key Takeaways

• Subjectivity in Ratings: Madden NFL ratings are inherently subjective, leading to discrepancies between fan expectations and in-game statistics.

• Potential for Improvement: Player ratings are not static and can improve with consistent in-game performance during the season.

• Balancing Act: Developers like EA strive to balance real-life performances and fan sentiments, but it's challenging to satisfy all stakeholders.

• Community Engagement: Fans and players actively engage in discussions and debates about ratings, reflecting the deep connection between real-life sports and gaming communities.

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For more insights and detailed discussions on NFL ratings and player performances, tune into Club Shay Shay on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or your preferred podcast platform.

Transcript

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Hello, it's your favorite sports funk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're gonna make oo cry. NFL. Oo they mad at you? NFL fans are hot at Cam's wars rating he got a 72. Travis Hunter has the highest rating for a rookie. He has an 84. Aston Genti has an 83. Abdul Carter is an 81. Mason Graham is an 80. Will Campbell and Jalon Walker are 79s. Kenneth Grant is 78. Jihadi Barron is 78. Mikhail Williams, Michael Williams, I think Michael 78. Maxwell Hairston is a 78. Cam Ward did not even crack the top 10 of Madden rookie ratings. Some are calling it an absolute joke. Ojo, what you got to say for yourself?

[Unknown Guest]

Listen, I got, I got something to say all for those. Obviously you got people that are complaining about obviously players, team that got drafted into the first round. Now we talk about Aston Genti, we talk about.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, obviously.

[Unknown Guest]

If, if you, if you, if you watch, you know, collegiate football, they were exceptional. We got a Heisman winner and we.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Got almost broke Barry Sanders rushing record.

[Unknown Guest]

Exactly. Let's understand what they did now. Young Bull. That's, that's my dude. Cam Ward was phenomenal at UM in turning that program around. But listen, this is what we saw fit to put him as before the season starts. You have to remember some of these players haven't played a down in the NFL yet. And everybody wants their ratings to be super high when they've done nothing. Now rightfully so. Travis Hunter, a special individual as in Genti, a special individual. I'm not saying that Cam Ward is not special. He is that being the quarterback number one for the Tennessee Titans. But listen, a 71 isn't justifiable which most rookies come in at the quarterback position at. And how you getting mad? This is nothing but room to improve. What we do at EA. What we do at EA for Madden. There's a 17 game season that's coming up right now, right Joe?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Absolutely.

[Unknown Guest]

Game season week to week. That rating continues to rise in raise based on it could drop too. That too. So listen, by, by no means it is where you're going to be at, but it can improve week to week. So it shouldn't be a problem. Some of the players might be upset. Cam Ward, I love you. You know how I feel about you, boy, you hear me? Week to week, week to week as you ball and you play consistent. You got Calvin really over there, huh? I know what you're gonna do. You got Tyler Lockett. I know what you're gonna do. Week to week it's gonna continue to rise and I got you. There's nothing to be ashamed of. I was a 67. I ain't complaining. I was 67. That that put a chance.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, why is it so hard though for rookies to come into Madden with like a 86, 88 rating? I understand you Know we want. Yeah. I'm saying. So there isn't. There isn't. There's never going to be a rookie that can come in and they could dominate right away. As far as Madden ratings, I understand. Ocho. Ocho, I understand that, you know, during the season, your rating can go up and down, I think.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know. You know what I mean? But, yeah, why everybody has to start so low? It's probably what avid gamers are really thinking, like, man, why you got to be so low when obviously, you know. Okay, let me ask you to ask him this. Let me ask you a question as an avid gamer. Were you. Were. Did you start where you are now or did you had to work your way up? See, you didn't come in Castanette, did not come in with this big screen, biggest, big screaming platform and have all these subs. He had to work his way up. No matter how popular somebody is, if. If LeBron, I mean, it doesn't matter. I mean, they want something that they haven't worked for you. Look, I get Travis Hunter got an 84, but he probably upset that he didn't get 90. He probably like, Man, I should be a 99. I won the Heisman Trophy. I won the. I won the Conf Award, I won this award. I'm the defensive player of the year, yada, yada, yada. So he thinks his rating is. Is. Is low at 84.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Everybody wants to come. Everybody's like, man, I should be a 99. I should be this. I should be there.

[Unknown Guest]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, give it time. Well, they used to even have no rating, so I went from a zero to 100. So anything's possible.

[Unknown Guest]

It's a good thing. Travis Hunter, if people understand the accolades and the resume that come behind, why he's at 84, you'd understand, if you look at Aston Genti, what he accomplished at the collegiate level. There's a reason why he's rated where he is. There's nothing wrong with Cam Ward. Nothing at all.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right.

[Unknown Guest]

He's a great quarterback. I'm hoping he's quarterback number one for Tennessee. And he does the same goddamn thing C.J. stroud did for Houston and. And the same goddamn thing Jaden Daniels did for goddamn Washington. But 71 is good. You don't want to give him these great ratings, then you have nothing to look forward to. You have nothing to look forward to. There's room for improvement. And if he plays how I feel and know he can play week to week, by the time you get to week 15, week 16. Hell, he could be at 86, 87.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You're not going to make everybody happy with the rating. You understand that is subjective. And anytime you dealing with something subjective, there's going to always be a problem with the judges, or in your case, a judge who helps adjust their Madden rating. And so that's what you're going to have. I mean it's just like anything, anything that's subjective because you know, if it's diving, if it's gymnastics, anything that's left up to judges. Unless I win, unless it's a perfect 10, or in this case a perfect 99, somebody's gonna have something to say. Yeah, every time. Yes, somebody's gonna have something to say. Pastor T, like, bro, I want defensive player of the year and I ain't a 99. I'm all pro, I'm a Pro Bowler back to back Pro bowl season and I ain't a 99. I mean, damn, what I got. So what do I have to do to get a 90? He's probably thinking, and I'm, I don't, I haven't talked to him, but I'm saying, ooh, he's probably thinking, what? I gotta win mvp.

[Unknown Guest]

Hold on. Hey, he done tweeted me now. He, he, he didn't got me. I told him, I told him, twin, I got you, I got you. Relax. I know what you did last year. We understand how special special you are. Hell, we had a whole goddamn dissertation with the, with the premier season in the NFL about how difficult it is to get open on you. I'mma take care of you, I'mma get you. But as it is all instance, this is a funny thing, hey Joe, this, this, this, this what kind of irks my nerve. All the people that are complaining about the Raiders, right? All these avid gamer, all these Madden enthusiasts like y' all complain about ratings and not even good at the game. They not even, not even, they just complaining to be complaining. Because if you were really good, the rating wouldn't matter because it's all about your stick work and being able to manipulate maneuvers on how to play like nobody. Small fun fact, Joe. And something you didn't know, not only either. Mad rating is just right, you know, I'm the best Madden player in the world. I'm the best Madden player in the world. In the world. Hey Joe. In the world, Joe. That's why when I hear people complaining about me doing the ratings, I'm like, you can't even play. Because I don't care about nobody rating because I My stick work is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Is.

[Unknown Guest]

Is elite, Joe. You hear me?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I had to check you out, man. I had to get your gamer tag and check you out, bro.

[Unknown Guest]

Don't do that, Joe. Don't do that. But, Joe, I'm like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't know.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah, Joe. Hey, hey, Joe, they call me Thumb. Yeah, yeah, they call me Thumb like that on that game and stuff, man. That's all I do. Hey, Joe, I lost relationship. Hey, Joe. Hey, I lost relationships behind gaming, Joe. That's how serious I take that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, me too. Me too. I think that they. Look Derek Henry have the case to be here, like, hold on, bro. I led the league at rush touchdowns. I had the second most rush yards, 1920 with 1921. And I'm like, I. I ain't a 99. He like, what more do I gotta do?

[Unknown Guest]

So, look, they're all make everybody a 99. Everybody can't be a 99.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's what I'm. That's the point that I'm getting at, is that everybody, unless you are 99. Really, only the ones that have the 99 are happy with their grade. Everybody else, whether they got a 98, 97, 96, they're not happy with their grade. I. I just never understood me. Honestly, Ocho, I really never understood it. Because just because you're 99 on the game, that'll mean you 99 on the field. Because you 96, 84, whatever. That don't mean you like that now, right?

[Unknown Guest]

Right. Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got to prove it to me every single week. You might start out as a 99, but I'm gonna need to see a 99. Week one, week five, week 10, week 12, week 15, week 16. The guys that got the rating, Kudos. Chase and Miles, Garrett and Saquon. Was it a quarterback that got 99? I don't know if they're the quarterback that got it. I don't. I. Like I said, I think Saquon, Chase, I think Lamar. 99. Lamar. Lamar.

[Unknown Guest]

Lamar.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Lamar. Lamar. Okay, Josh.

[Unknown Guest]

Josh Allen.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Josh Allen. Yeah, they deserved it. Okay, cool. But I promise you, when y' all get it on the field, ain't nobody thinking about nobody rating. Ocho. Oh, no. When you would, you went against db, you thought, oh, oh, man, I ain't gonna be able to get over that joker. 96, old man. I don't know what I would do.

[Unknown Guest]

Let me tell you something, though. Unc and Joe, hey, the players really do care about their ratings, though.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They do. They do. I know they do.

[Unknown Guest]

I got a few Text messages.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Unknown Guest]

Pass. And they'd be like, come on. Oh, so do me, do me right, do me. Justin, I tell them one thing, if you got a problem with your, your ratings, I, I can show you why you are what you are. I can break it down in PowerPoint presentation and let you know. See, they used to, the players used to complain, oh, they got somebody that ain't never played the game and they don't know the rate. No, I know I'm watching film, I'm breaking film down. And we're, we're basing your rating based on your play. Not just week to week, also against elite play against other players at competition that are really, really good. Are you going to show up? Don't, don't just play good when there's somebody that you know is a little beneath you that you happen to be going against week one and two. You know how you show up against the big boys that are in your upper echelon of skill and talent.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y' all know this, this, this video game stuff, man, then came a long way, you know, from when we was kids. So a lot of, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, getting a chance to, getting a chance to be in Madden, getting a chance to be in NBA 2K. Like, yes, the ratings are a big deal. Dudes look forward to, you know, seeing what they got on the game, you know what I mean? Within themselves. So I kind of understand it to an extent. But like, I'll say it's, you can't please everybody, man. Lamar Jackson in 2019 was a 79. Trevor Lawrence in 2022 was a 78. Joe Burrow in 2021 was a 76. Patrick Mahomes in 2017 was a 76. Caleb Williams in 2025 was a 76. Josh Allen, the year he came out, all these are rookies, I might add, was 74. Cam Ward is a 72. So Joe Burrow was a 76 coming off the Heisman Trophy and statistically had the greatest season ever for a quarterback. He threw for over 5,000 yards and 60 touchdowns and had Chase, so. And he got a 76. Lamar Jackson was a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback and he got a 79. Patrick Mahomes just had a game where he threw for over 700 yards. Caleb Williams, a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback with a 76. So I, I, I, I, I mean, what y' all want, y', all, y' all want, y' all want OO to put him, y' all wanted Madden and Ocho to adjusted, all those adjusters to Put him at what? What would be a great. What would be an ideal rating for a Rookie? Cam Ward?

[Unknown Guest]

85, 86 out the gate.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's what I'm asking. What would be an ideal rating to appease the masses? Did he. Would he need. Would he need a 80?

[Unknown Guest]

I don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nah. Well, he had 71 right now. 72.

[Unknown Guest]

72. That ain't bad.

[Chad Ochocinco]

72 right now. So I think people thinking, I'm just speaking probably for the people, I think they especially gamers, probably about a 78, 77.

[Unknown Guest]

Well, hey, listen, he could be that by week five. He could be. Listen, Tennessee could be the dark horse team this year. There's always a team that come out of nowhere and just, oh, my goodness, they wow us. They do things we thought they couldn't do. Based on what they did last year, they might be him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And I could understand why Lamar got a 79, because Lamar had legs and an arm. So I can see why. The same reason he got a 99. The same reason Josh Allen got a 99, because not only can they beat you with their arm, they can beat you with their legs. So I get, I get why Lamar coming out with a 79 and. And Josh, we knew he was athletic, but we didn't know Josh was like this.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah, athletic.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We saw Caleb Williams with the hocus pocus and all that other, the old things that he did. Heisman Trophy winning. At the end of the day, somebody wasn't going to be happy with their rating. Somebody wasn't going to be happy that they got a 70. Somebody got an 85 and they're not happy with that. Somebody got a 94 and they're not happy with that. So you're not going to be able to please everyone. But I tell you what you can do. You can play and change that grade.

[Unknown Guest]

It is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know how the teacher used to tell you, right? Oh, I'm gonna give you some extracurricular work and you can pull that B up to an A or you can take that A and go to an A plus, or you could take that C and take it to a B. That's all on you. Okay? You don't like the grade to 72, do something about it.

[Unknown Guest]

It is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It is.

[Unknown Guest]

There it is. Hey, speaking now, to be on the topic of football, you know what, What I love about. I hate to go off topic. What I love about Twitter right now is the clips that I keep seeing from camp with the one on ones the receiving. I'm having a joy breaking down what each Receiver did wrong or what the DB did wrong, but the DB do it right and what the receiver did wrong and just breaking it down and watching it, man, that dog I'm talking about, I feel like a little kid in the candy store just watching some of the videos from. From, like, Brown's camp. I saw some one on ones with Denzel, with the Panthers. That. Keon. Keon Coleman. Keon Coleman. Well, Keon Coleman sent me his one on one videos so far for Buffalo. Yes, he sent me. He sent him to my phone. I'm looking like, boy, you've been putting in some work, boy, this all season. So that's what I'm saying in my head. I ain't even get a chance to hit him back. But he sent me some stuff, you know, to go over and just, you know, to talk a little bit, critique it. Dog, code, man. Listen, man, Keon, I know you probably gonna see this boy. I. I get that for right now, you know, but I need to see it on Sundays. I need to see it on Sunday. But you look good, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because the thing is, Ocho, you know the difference between one on one in practice and one on one in the game is that somebody might. You might think one on one and they play in zone, but, well, you know, one on one in. In practice, it's all one. It's all man to man. Ain't no zone, right? So you running right, and you patient. Everybody got patience in practice, Ocho. Oh, you taking your time. You set no boy up, but, you know, come game time. Hey, ain't nobody rushing that, See? Ain't nobody rushing the quarterback in one on one.

[Unknown Guest]

Let's go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, you got to go.

[Unknown Guest]

Got to go all.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All that. Your quarterback. This is what happened to your quarterback while you did it. Your quarterback slumped. Your quarterback slumped over the wheel because he got hit the back of his head.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah, man, I don't mean. I'm so excited. Make me so excited, though. There was a. There was a rep on. On Twitter with Denzel Ward. Jesus Christ. Oh, my God, this so polished. Oh, I'm sorry.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah. Come on, Ultra. You go get a day. We ain't gonna make no money tonight, bro.

[Unknown Guest]

My bad, my bad. Listen, listen, listen. It was Cedric Tillman and Denzel Ward. Bump and run. And dog, it was. When it's done right, the game of football is so beautiful. Just from a position standpoint, I'm not gonna break it down right now, but it was. It was. Dude, man, that boy Denzel Waters is nice. You talk about a technician yeah, well.

[Chad Ochocinco]

See, the thing is, he's. He's. He's small frame, so he has to be nice because he doesn't. He doesn't have, you know, overwhelming sides, guys.

[Unknown Guest]

Right, right, right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So you know what I'm saying? Oo. So he. His technique has to be flawless. And it is. And it is. I mean, you know, he's here. Here, you know, hey, he. He's great. He's loose in his hips, so he's great. Easy to turn and run. He's very fluid. He transitions very well. When you hear, oh, he transition. Hey, he backpedal, drop. Hey, start the run. Hey, DB Come back on the Comeback. Oh, yeah, I'm on that, too.

[Unknown Guest]

Right there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I'm on that, too. I dropped my hips. I'm on that, too. So I just want you to know I'm right here. Hey, Uncle Ocho. Yeah. At this time of the year, doing. At this. At this time of the year, doing camp. Tell me something. Y'. All. Y'.

[Unknown Guest]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y' all enjoy coming into camp already, like, in peak shape, or you. You kind of use camp to count in?

[Unknown Guest]

No.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Peak shape. No. You get in shape playing football, you get in shape.

[Unknown Guest]

It don't matter. Hey, Joe. It don't matter how much it works.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm saying, I see. I see guys out there who don't look like they in great shape, man. I mean, I see some guys. Guys who look like they're in elite shape. That's all I'm saying. I'm saying, like, what was your mind say coming into camp? No, I. The thing was, look, I. I tapered off. Like, the last two weeks, I was still. I was probably, like, not at that point in time. I was probably 90. Because here's the thing. This is how you know you're not in shape when they put that too many drill on your ass. And every age, you run a goal, you run a post, and you run.

[Unknown Guest]

Come back, and you got to run back, Run back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes. And. And the first. And you do this after three plays, that lets you know right now you ain't where you need to be and come. And now that's what happens to guys now, Ocho, because at least in. In. In preseason, we're going to get everything that we need to do in the regular season. We're gonna get to some of that. And they're gonna say, you know what? Cause Mike might say, you know what? We're gonna open up the game with two minutes. We're gonna open up the game with no huddle, because I Want. I want to make sure we get some of that with our number ones, right? So before anybody gets dinged, I'm going to make sure we get that. We're going to get some short yardage and goal line. We're going to make sure we get some 12 personnel. We're going to get some 11 personnel. You know, we're going to get some empty set. We're going to get all of that, Joe. But, yes, it gives you a great foundation because we've been sprinting on the track and we've been running hundreds and two hundreds and 150s and threes. We've been doing all that, but we ain't been doing none of that with no helmet and no shoulder pads. That's what we have. Yeah, exactly. And so now once guys start leaning on you and. And we all do always do that stuff on the third day when that soreness, when that old man set in, when that old man said, man, listen, hey, look, I enjoyed camp, like, it was always fun, but. But the best times is when you come into camp and you already kind of in great, great shape because they're gonna run the dog junk out of you. Oh, for sure. I mean, you're gonna do a lot of line drills. 17s. You know them? I forgot what's named them. Down and backs and you got to make it.

[Unknown Guest]

Y' all do suicides in the NBA. What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man, listen, I don't know what they doing right now, but I'm saying, when I came into the league. Ocho. Yeah. And 01, man, we work, bro. Like, I'm talking about line drills, 17s. I'm talking just the end practice. Yeah, like, you had to be in shape, bro. You had. We had. We had conditioning tests that we had to do.

[Unknown Guest]

Hey, Unk. They was on that Coach Carter routine.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's what we did, too. See, we. We did too many at the end of practice. We never did two minutes at the beginning of practice, he said, because guess what? It's going to be at the end of game in which you're going to need the two minutes. So why doing it when you freshest, when you're going to be at your tiredest late in the ball game?

[Unknown Guest]

So.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So that's what I want. Hey, man, we beat up Red and did all that stuff. All right, two minutes. Two minutes. Man, I just got out the field. Yeah, they get you. Where you at your worst when you tie Dead Dog tie. You ready to get up out of there?

[Unknown Guest]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Get down on that line. We got 17. Everybody got to make it.

[Unknown Guest]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah. And, and that's, that's. And, and so. Yes, you want a good foundation. And, and, and, and you're right, Joe. If you got that good foundation, it's a lot easier. But, man, ain't nothing like football. Football, Shake. But playing football. Yep.

[Unknown Guest]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You got to do it. You. Because you ain't blocking guys. I mean, you. You got to drive to try to get the guy. Hey, O. You got to run guys. You got to run guys off. Because if you don't want to block up and run the risk, you got to run 20, 30 yards down the field and come back and guess what? Do it again. If it's another run play, or it might be a play. Ocho. Hey, you ready for this deep ball now? Hey, you just ran the guy off 30 yards. Now you got to come back and run a go ball.

[Unknown Guest]

You better hope it's complete because now you got to run back again.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, it get a little different when them guys get to leaning on you. I know. Because you should play basketball. You can be in, you can go, Go to the track, get on the treadmill, do all the running you want to. But once you get out there and body go to touching on you and pushing you.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

It's the biggest party of the summer. WWE SummerSlam is here and wrestling with Freddy is all over it. We're talking wild matches, big surprises, and our boldest predictions yet. From celebrity showdowns to the chaos inside a steel cage, we're breaking down every match and calling who we think walks out on top. This card is loaded from Cody Rhodes, John Cena, Rhea Ripley, and Tiffy, just to name a few. This lineup is ready to tear down the house. We'll give you our unfiltered takes, honest debates, and, you already know, a ton of laughs along the way. We're covering the upsets, the wild returns, and the championship moments. Nobody expects we'll get into the matches that steal the show, the storylines that explode, and those oh, my God, did that just happen? Moments that make SummerSlam legendary. Don't miss it. Listen to Wrestling with Freddie as part of the My Coultura podcast network. Find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Jake Hofer]

I'm Jake Hofer and this is back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters podcast Network. Each episode, I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access should you?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.

[Jake Hofer]

Listen to back 40 on I Heart Rate radio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Unknown Host]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved.

[Unknown Guest]

San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Jake Hofer]

We need veteran players and we need young players. Like you're building a team from scratch. And so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community.

[Unknown Guest]

When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life.

[Unknown Host]

Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Get fired up, y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe to the show and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, Co hosting a podcast with her fiance Sue, Bird watching former teammates retire and more. Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete? The final. The final. And the locker room. I really, really like you. Just, you can't replicate, you can't get back. Showing up to the locker room every morning just to talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and college superstar AZ Foote. I mean, seriously, y', all, they. The guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And you know we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All right, Ocho Jamar Chase, ESPN's top rated receiver, has a bone to pick with Madden. Ratings adjust to Ocho Cinco and his rating of him. Let's take a listen to what Jamar had to say.

[Unknown Guest]

I think I caught my rating and.

I called Chad right away and I told him this is the wrong rating.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

What was wrong about it?

[Unknown Guest]

It wasn't 99. Did he say he was going to fix it or.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I hope he is. I mean, if you don't, I'll be mad at him. Hey, I'm with him on that. I agree. I think it should be about 99.

[Unknown Guest]

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Hold on now. Hold on. Now, listen, we're. We, we. What everyone did last season, right? Obviously, the updates will be in the new game, right? The new game ain't even out yet, right? He's a 98. He's. His rating is based on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He'll be 99 then.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah, I, I, I don't know yet. Basically.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know because when Cooper cup won the Triple Crown, he was 99.

[Unknown Guest]

Let me finish. That was the following season, after the Triple Crown.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He might get that honey. He might get that honey reserved for me. Joe.

[Unknown Guest]

Hold on. Let me, Let me finish. Let me finish, though. Listen. So Chase, he. He called me with a little air in his chest. Yeah. So what I did. You probably look at your chest. So I blocked him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah. So I had to block him. Like, Listen, wait a minute. Hold on. Tighten up now, young fella. Hold on, young bull. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go back to my team. I'm gonna talk about. I'm gonna talk with my team over at ea, and we're gonna discuss and see what we're gonna do later on in the future. Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ojo. You, you, you really over the rankings?

[Unknown Guest]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Only. Yeah, he wanted to adjust us only.

[Unknown Guest]

Only for the skill position. Receivers. DBs. Yeah, only. Only. Only receiving the DBs. Because I. I know that. I know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I got a question. I'm saying, so can you make somebody a hundred and then like. No, the highest you can get.

[Unknown Guest]

The highest you can go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But I know a guy that's on here talking to you. Joe, that was a h. What the O. What the. Honey.

[Unknown Guest]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You was all right. You was all right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You. Y' all need to give me something. Y' all need. Y' all need to. Y' all need to. Y' all need to grandfather me. Give me something for that. I need something to hang on my wall. Yeah.

[Unknown Guest]

I tell you what. You send me my gifts, we'll make something special for you in the game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You owe me 50. Oh, man. Come on.

[Unknown Guest]

Hold on. Listen. I told you. Listen, I Do me a small favor. Send me my awards and I send your money. It's simple.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, Ojo, where my money at?

[Unknown Guest]

What? I Owe you what?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Come on, from the finals, bro.

[Unknown Guest]

Oh, oh, oh. How much I owe you, Joe?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, did we win game for game? I think we had like seven games. I think we had like 700. 700?

[Unknown Guest]

Something like that, Joe. It was. It was each game.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Say he won all seven games. Hey, Joe, you dirty.

[Unknown Guest]

Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ow. Joe. $100. Hey, hey, hey.

[Unknown Guest]

Trying to rob me, Joe?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You owe me a 100. But it's got. Got at least put a little interest on it. Come on now. Ooh.

[Unknown Guest]

Okay, football.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, football season about to start back up and you still ain't paid. Man, that's violation, bro.

[Unknown Guest]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Stay with me now. Stay with me. Joe, I promise you, when I come there for week one and we go to the Falcons game against Tampa Bay. Yeah, there it is right there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, you on. Roll with us on. What happened? Come on now. Come on now.

[Unknown Guest]

You gonna go to the game?

[Chad Ochocinco]

What game?

[Unknown Guest]

Week one. At the Falcons? No, in. In the Bucks.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, hey. Oh, man, I can't be going to no games, man. I don't. Look, I like watching the game. I get better enjoyment watching the games on television. Man, he said. He said we gotta work ojo, man. Yeah, we gotta work.

[Unknown Guest]

Listen, man. Oh, man, I'm bougie as hell, man. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, we'll go to the game. I can get a sideline passing. Joe, we'll get sideline passes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Joe can't stand on the damn sideline with that bum ass.

[Unknown Guest]

Me?

[Chad Ochocinco]

What the hell you talking about?

[Unknown Guest]

I'mma push you in the field chair.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Be back in the game still. What you mean? Hey, Joe, you just had surgery. Yeah, you in a. You in a. You non weight bearing for at least three months. Hey, Joe, for the first six weeks, I gotta wear this little splint on my. On my leg. But once I got exactly.

[Unknown Guest]

September, September, September 7th.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's gonna be right there. I'm gonna be getting up out this splint and boo. And guess what? Guess what? You do realize when you're on the sideline, you gotta dodge guys, all right? No.

[Unknown Guest]

All right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You want me to stay home, just tell me to stay home. No. Hey, hey. Get your ass up and get your ass up with a sweep.

[Unknown Guest]

No, I'm talking about in pre game, Joe. I'm gonna push in the wheelchair on the sideline.

[Chad Ochocinco]

We ain't doing nothing. If you think I'm gonna go in there like. Nah, nah, nah.

[Unknown Guest]

Now you good. You know, you could be cool in the wheelchair.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The wheelchair? Like Paul Pierce. Hey, look, if I gotta Go anywhere in a wheelchair. I might. I ain't doing it. I'm sorry. I'm down. Nah. What's wrong with this man? Zeus the bully said, Oo. You make no sense, Jerry. Golf rating higher than Jalen hurts. Sanders 67. Wasn't he the best QB in college? Voted by his peers. Crazy work.

[Unknown Guest]

You heard what he just asked me, right? What do you ask you rating is based on statistics. Does he know that? So he just compared. Comparing Derek Goff that and Jalen Hurts. Like what. What do we. What do we say?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You. You say you. You got a. A Jerry Goff rating higher than Jalen Hurts.

[Unknown Guest]

And. Hey, I have a question for you. What did. What did golf throw for last year?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You threw for over 4, 000 yards.

[Unknown Guest]

Okay. What did Jalen Hurst, though, for last year?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Not over 4, 000.

[Unknown Guest]

Okay, there's the answer. You don't get ratings based off accolades. And we know he won the Super Bowl. The rating is based off the. Oh, my God. You know what? Don't worry about it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Dulo Gante. I've been playing, man, since it was on Sega Genesis with three buttons. Ocho, I challenge you to a duel.

[Unknown Guest]

You not beat me. You're not beating me. You not beat me in nothing. Madden, FIFA, matter of fact, any gaming console. You not beat me in Nothing. From Atari, TurboGrafx 16, Nintendo, nothing. Nobody.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That guy. Everybody can't be that guy. Cam Newton say he that guy.

[Unknown Guest]

Cam. Cam. Sorry as hell. And Madman Cam can't beat me doing nothing. Tennis, pickleball, golf. Nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, y' all did my man wrong. Patrick Mahomes, who left off the 99 rating? Players with the 99 overall rating in man 26 were revealed today, and they are. Saquon Barkley, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Miles Garrett, and Lane Johnson. What was my homeboy. What were you. What. What was he, Ocho?

[Unknown Guest]

98.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, okay.

[Unknown Guest]

Oh, he said he's a 98. Like there. There are many quarterbacks. I know they made it to the super bowl, right? We all football this year.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Based on last year, he shouldn't have been 99.

[Unknown Guest]

That's the whole point. That's every. The rating is based on your performance and what you did last year. Yes, they went to the Super Bowl.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, but he don't. He was 99.

[Unknown Guest]

And the standards in the metric system in which we judge Patrick Mahomes, who, even though he's a 98, is still one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. He's not a 99. Based off last year's production. I'm not sure why people, Chiefs fans, they fussing at me. They arguing with me. It's not a bad.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What because. No, it's not a lifetime achievement. You don't get a 99 and get to keep it forever. So I get to play like crap. I throw 40 interceptions. I'm still a 99 because I've had great years in the past. No, if you look at the guys, look at the season. Saquon had over 2000 yard offensive player of the year. Look at Lamar, Josh Allen was a the mvp. Jetta was. Jetta was what he have second, I think second most receiver yards behind Chase Miles. Garrett had an outstanding season. And Lane Johnson, we know what John Lane Johnson represent. So these guys that are 99, they're more. They earned that. So Patrick Mahomes didn't earn. He didn't earn a 99. He's a 98. Which is, which is good. If you'd have gave him a 97, I don't think he could have been mad considering how he played.

[Unknown Guest]

Right. And. And I think people, we. We watched the Chiefs last year. We. We watched them struggle, especially offensively even though they were winning games. Because Patrick Mahomes is just that great when it comes to managing game and not turning the ball over. Patrick Mahomes last year he only threw for 3,928 yards his first season.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Under 4,000?

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah, under 4,000. In front of him. In front of him. Statistically, who threw for more yards? Lamar Jackson.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Unknown Guest]

Sam Darnold, Geno Smith, Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff and Joe Burrow. I mean like, like what are we talking about? It's not a bad thing. Mahomes is still last year. It showed us that he's human. What Patrick Mahomes has done so far in such a very short amount of time in his career, he is, it's. He's like Superman in a sense. Like. Like Superman in a sense. To the point we're comparing to Brady and he's still active with a long way to go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you. So please subscribe or you're going to make OO cry. We gotta let OO have his moment. OO said he won his moment. Cam fired some shots at OO in his 62nd job. Let's take a listen to what Cam had to say.

[Unknown Guest]

Press Pause. Press pause.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

It's the biggest party of the summer. WWE SummerSlam is here and wrestling with Freddy is all over it. We're talking wild matches, big surprises, prizes, and our boldest predictions yet. From celebrity showdowns to the chaos inside a steel cage, we're breaking down every match and calling who we think walks out on top. This card is loaded. From Cody Rhodes, John Cena, Rhea, Ripley and Tiffy, just to name a few. This lineup is ready to tear down the house. We'll give you our unfiltered takes, honest debates and you already know, a ton of laughs along the way. We're covering the upsets, the wild returns and the championship moments. Nobody expects we'll get into the matches that steal the show, the storylines that explode, and those oh my God, did that just happen? Moments that make SummerSlam legendary. Don't miss it. Listen to Wrestling with Freddy as part of the My Kultura Podcast Network. Find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jake Hofer]

I'm Jake Hofer and this is back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a 50 focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.

[Jake Hofer]

Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Unknown Host]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved.

[Unknown Guest]

San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Jake Hofer]

We need veteran players and we need young players. Like you're building a team from scratch and so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community.

[Unknown Guest]

When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life.

[Unknown Host]

Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Get fired up y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people and an incomparable Soccer icon Megan Rapinoe to the show, and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, Co hosting a podcast with her fiance sue, bird watching former teammates retire and more. Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete? The final. The final. And the locker room. I really, really like you just. You can't replicate. You can't get back. Showing up to locker room every morning just to talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and college superstar AZ Fudd. I mean, seriously, y', all, the guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And you know, we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the world. Women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Unknown Guest]

Who gives Chad Ochocinko the right to give Madden rankings? He's been doing it for years now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know.

[Unknown Guest]

How did he get you?

[Chad Ochocinco]

He's not good at Madden. Okay, here we go. So he. Is this a 1v1?

[Unknown Guest]

Has anybody seen Chad Ochocinko play Madden? I know he's an avid gamer. I know he plays soccer.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't give a man, listen, man, he plays FIFA, man. I ain't never seen Chad Ochocinko play.

[Unknown Guest]

So is this. Is this our own one v one?

I don't like.

I don't even want to play it. Who's played like, bro, I'm big browser. You know what I'm saying?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Shout out to Mario.

[Unknown Guest]

See that part with folks head like, bro, you just can't start and just play me. No, I'm looking down at y' all suckers. I'm looking down. You don't just get the right to play the great one. Are you serious? Do you know what these thumbs will do? Golden Thumb Productions. Golden Thumb Productions, yeah. Are you serious? I've never seen Chad play. He not in the field.

[Chad Ochocinco]

For real.

[Unknown Guest]

He's not. He's just an analytical guy. Ooh.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So.

[Unknown Guest]

Highly disrespected that EA hasn't reached out to me to. To really give ratings.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because you're in the field. For real. For real. Okay. For real. And we talk and. And trust and believe, man. We could put whatever on it.

[Unknown Guest]

Oh, Joe, where you at, bro? Pick up the phone, baby.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey. Oh, y' all the flow yours, man.

[Unknown Guest]

That ain't nothing but nonsense, man. He talking about he in the field. So basically what? Based on his logic, I can't give ratings because I'm not good at Madden. So let's say I'm great at football in general when I played it. You hear me?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I hear you.

[Unknown Guest]

I miss one of the best all time. That's what that four gives me the credibility to give ratings. Now I don't know nothing about Cam Newton and no field when it come to no stick work. I've been gaming since 1984. Let me gave it to the 84. And this stick work is the kind of stick work that Cam don't do. I ain't know he was the gamer. I didn't even know he played Madden. I didn't know. So obviously is whoever he think he is on the game. I don't know about him. I never seen him at a competition.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And you know about everybody.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah, everybody know I play the game. Everybody know I do that. See Cam, this is, this is, this is the thing with Cam Newton. You see Cam Newton plays Madden recreational. He plays games in general for recreational purposes. Like I game is a way of life to pay my fucking bills.

[Chad Ochocinco]

See that's, that's different. Yeah, yeah, big difference.

[Unknown Guest]

I'm on some other shit. But if he want to play and we could put whatever on it. He talking spicy. We could put whatever you talking about on it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, that's what's up.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah, and make it light on yourself.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cam, you looking for these type of.

[Unknown Guest]

Problems, man, can I want no smoke, man. Hey, Cam can't beat me in nothing. Matter of fact if I was the backup of Carolina, I would have took the job.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let me ask, you didn't know Cam was a gamer? You didn't know Cam was good at Madden or other video games. I don't know about all these other.

[Unknown Guest]

Cam ain't good at, you know who good at Madden. You know who I know about. I know about DEZ Bryant. I know dance is good at Madden. I know that you know his, his, his prowess on the game. And listen, I've heard about it. So I ain't heard nothing about Cam. I ain't heard nothing about Cam. I know DEZ Bryant know how to play. You know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cause I remember cam was challenging LeBron. Cause I got. I think LeBron has like a top thousand or top 500 top something ranking. So I guess you get ranked. I don't know. Listen now, now you talk about somebody on this ish about Rick Madden, but I guess you get, you get ranked you get. I mean, you play long enough and you get good. You get ranked, don't you? Is that how it works?

[Unknown Guest]

Hey, listen, I. I don't know, man. The man. Listen, the man, he. He talking spicy, right? He could have picked up the phone to call me. He got my number. Matter of fact, I'm gonna block him now. I'm gonna block him now. You like, you coming out. You coming at a true gamer. You know this. I really do. You do it for fun. I do it as a way of life. We. We. We different. We ain't even the same. Lane, when we talk about gaming, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Dj, you game?

[Unknown Guest]

I messed around a little bit, but I. I heard Cam Newton like that, though. I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I.

[Unknown Guest]

You know who I really know like that, though? Darren James. Like that, too.

Yeah. Dirt. Okay, that's another one. Darwin, is that boy on them sticks, man? I ain't heard nothing about no Cam being like that on those sticks, man.

Just probably, man. He want the rain. He want to rank them dudes, man. He just really coming at you, man. God dang.

Listen, listen, listen, Cam, if you. You want to come over there with ea, with me, man, holla at your boy, man. I got him. I got it. I got you, Cam. Come on over there, baby. Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y' all be. Hey, y' all be taking that stuff serious, for real, though, huh?

[Unknown Guest]

Hey, listen. Hey, that's serious gaming.

That game is real.

Hey, Jack, Jack, all my relationships ended behind gaming, huh, man?

[Chad Ochocinco]

For real. I can see that.

[Unknown Guest]

Hey, I'm serious. I'm telling you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Half the time you on here, Ocho, can you get off the game and get ready to get suited up?

[Unknown Guest]

Exactly. Listen, one thing about a chat, you gotta understand, Jack. You gotta understand. Listen. Gaming is forever. Real talk, temporary, you hear me?

Forever, too. I heard you say that.

Hey, your game ain't gonna never wake up one morning and be like, you know what? You tripping. No, I don't want to do this no more. The game will never do that. Always be the same every time. And it always bring out this happy side of you. Always bring out this happy side of you. No matter what.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No. I don't know. I mean, maybe, Cam.

[Unknown Guest]

I hope you watching, boy. You got the right one, boy. Yeah. Stop playing with me, man. Stop playing on my top, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what? I think I'm gonna start playing. I'm gonna get good to beat the brakes off you, Ocho. I get my 5,900 back like that, then.

[Unknown Guest]

I told you I'm gonna Give you money, man. I'm gonna give you money.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, you're not. No, you're not.

[Unknown Guest]

He said no you're not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, hey, I'm gonna, hey, I'm, I'm gonna, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna start gaming. I'm gonna get good and I, and I'm gonna stream live when I beat you like 42 to 7.

[Unknown Guest]

42 to 7 and what? Madden, you too young. You, you can't. Come on now. You can't. I, I, it's too simple.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I ain't never played before, but I'mma get good.

[Unknown Guest]

You don't know how to work technology, so you definitely can't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, can I do voice command? Can I do voice commands?

[Unknown Guest]

Nah, nah, no, ain't no voice command. We, we not that, we not that far advanced yet.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'mma go, I'mma go talk to Zuckerberg. I said, look here man, you got this AI. This meta. I want to be able to do my gaming. I want to be able to talk to it. Damn. Nah, I would, I would, I would get good at it. Ocho. No, I'm not, because I don't have, I don't have that kind of time. Yeah, you gotta have that kind of time. Hey, let me ask you, let me, let me ask you about another thing. Dj. The Steelers run ran the ball the fourth most last year while Aaron Rodgers attempted the second most passes. And Arthur Smith spoke about marrying the run heavy offense. There's a past happy quarterback. We didn't bring Aaron here to sign DK for all that money to go run the wishbone. DJ, now that they have you. Look, the Steelers have always had a defense that could get after the quarterback. They kind of slacked off a little bit of that when they had Ben and A.B. and, and, and Leon. They were more of a pass happy offense and the defense kind of struggle seemingly. They gotten back, they got TJ now they got Highs Smith and they got Minka and they got Porter Jr on one side. So they got a really nice Cam Hayward. They got him. So they got a really, a really nice defense now they got Aaron Rodgers, they signed dk. Solid offensive line. I don't think it's great, but it's okay. Friarmouth, they got Calvin Austin iii. They got some decent receivers. What is your expectation of the Steelers this year? What, what, what's the ceiling for the Steelers? Can they win the division? Can they make a deep run in the playoffs? Can they get to the Super Bowl?

[Unknown Guest]

I mean obviously Aaron Rodgers, in my eyes man, he's. I'll put him as a top 1015 quarterback all time in my. In my book. So I think. I think he's a guy obviously coming off the injury last year, or was that the year before?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Whenever.

[Unknown Guest]

The year before he was the year before. Right. And then obviously last year really didn't have the success we thought he would have. I think it's going to be tough. Like you said, the offensive line is really not the strength of that team. You know what I'm saying? And obviously Aaron Rodgers, he's older now. What is he, 39? He's 40 years old.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Be 41 and started the season.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I think obviously he can't be touched. He's not the young A rod. He can't move like he used to move. So I just don't see why would you go get rid of what's.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Justin Fields.

[Unknown Guest]

Nah, the receiver.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, you talking about.

[Unknown Guest]

Oh, Pickens.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Pickens.

[Unknown Guest]

George Pickens. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I don't understand.

[Unknown Guest]

Why would you get rid of George Pickens if you had in hopes that you was going to sign to Aaron Rodgers? So for me, I know you got DK Metcalf over there. I just don't. Honestly, I'm gonna be real. I don't see them winning this division right now. Not with my boy L. Jack, not with my twin L. Jack over there in Baltimore. And I ain't gonna lie, man.

I think.

I think my boy Shador gonna get in that starting job over there. I think. I think Cleveland gonna be a little something this year, too. So in that division, you got Cincinnati, you got Burrow, you got, you know, my boy Ocho. Team over there, you got Jamar Chase, you got T. Higgins. I mean, some cop in that division over there, man, I don't think it's gonna be that sweet for them dudes to win that. I. I can't write that off and say they gonna win it this year. I can't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, sure. What you thinking? They ran the ball the fourth most last year. Obviously, Rogers wants to throw the football. He's always had success throwing the football. Obviously, like D. Jack said, not the success that probably he thought he would have, or everybody had the expectations because he was supposed to be the missing ingredient for the jets to take that next step. Obviously, it didn't pan out. They moved on after two years. What is your expectations for the Steelers?

[Unknown Guest]

Well, listen, my. My expectations are for them to compete. They can compete not only the division, but whatever their schedule may look like, because they do have Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is not the Aaron Rodgers of old. But Aaron Rodgers is better than what you had on your. On your team before he signed right before minicamp. He gives them a chance to compete week in and week out. As far as winning division, that's. That's not likely. The division winners will probably be either the Bengals or the Ravens. I'm. I'm going to be realistic here based on the record between. Between us. I'mma piggyback on what Sean said to. At some point, Joe Flacco will probably lose that starting job to Shador and his tenure in Cleveland will also start. So outside of that, as many people that may hate Aaron Rogers for the way he acts and for all the stuff he does off the field. Some of the things he says on camera and some of the things he says on tv, he does give you a chance and he does give Steeler fans and that organization hope to compete week in and week out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All right, dj, thanks for joining us. Head coach of the Delaware State, D Jack. D Jack, tell people how they can find you on social media. If you got a YouTube page, you got IG, you got Twitter, Facebook, let our fans know how they can find you.

[Unknown Guest]

Yes, sir.

Man.

I appreciate it though. Obviously 101 is my Instagram. Sean Jackson 10 at Twitter. Delaware State underscore football as well too. We're gonna put up Delaware State in here, man. Everybody need to go out too, man. Support that cause, man. August, I mean October 30th, man, at the link, man, come through. We had Lincoln Financial, got my brother Michael Vick. We gonna be first time. Obviously you've seen us a lot. Catching, throwing, catching touchdowns. Now we going head to head versus sideline. The sideline in our old stumble grounds, man. So come out October 30th, mark your calendars, man. We going at that thing, man. Let's get it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep, that's desean Jackson. D Jack, I appreciate that. Best of luck, man. Stop back by when you have some time, bro. Oh, let me ask you a question. What's your highest ranking, Omadden? What's the highest you've been ranked?

[Unknown Guest]

The highest I've been ranked. I think, if I'm not mistaken, a 98 overall. I think a night overall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would listen. I was that boy back in the day, man. I was that boy. I was nice.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think.

[Unknown Guest]

You know what? For me and I'm uncle. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna really be honest with you. I don't think people understand really how Good. I was. Unless you are really a football person. Because the antics and the fun and entertainment that I had, it takes away from all the hard work I actually put in to be able to pull some I did off. And I'm just being honest. And then that goes for people even at the, even, even the, the, the, the most highest analysts or those that have been watching the game for years, they allow the antics and entertainment to get away from how. Actually, how good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, that's that, I mean, that happens because they like what.

[Unknown Guest]

And I like it, but I like it like that. I enjoy that. I, I, I, I enjoyed it. And that's what I wanted to remember for so.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, that's what happens. I mean, they. He's loud, he's braggadocious and all that, but. And so now when the NFL has started this National Tight Ends Day, and the NFL started posting clips and people like, hold on. Okay, now I see why Unc was like that. For real. But here's the thing, though. Oo see, you was a 98. I was one of the few guys that's ever been a hundo. Yeah, but higher than a 99. Yeah. For show. I've been him. Run tell that.

[Unknown Guest]

Wait.

[Chad Ochocinco]

A Hyundai. A Hyundai. Hey, I need me. I need me some shoes that said a Hyundai.

[Unknown Guest]

Cause they ain't been the gold shoes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No. A hundred got to be platinum. Gold is for 99. I need platinum shoes.

[Unknown Guest]

I got. I gotta, I gotta check on time. I gotta check. I gotta, I gotta check the vote. I ain't never heard of.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No. Because normally. Because normally during the game, I wore red shoes. Cause I clown fools. That's what I did. For real, though, O joke. Let me tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna give it to you the first half because you're gonna be jealous that I didn't give you any. So I'm gonna give it to you the second half. But all y' all gonna get it. All y' all about to get all this here, so don't worry about it. Don't worry about. Don't tell him to shut up and stop talking to me because I'm about to start talking to you. I'm about to hit you up, too. Oh, yeah? How'd you get.

[Unknown Guest]

I gotta check that. But I ain't. I ain't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know you didn't. And after that, nobody else could ever get a Hyundai. They never. After 99, they cut it out. After 99, they cut it out. No. No more Hyundais. So you're the last Honey, after me, there'll be no more.

[Unknown Guest]

Okay, I like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's a 99 rated. It's all. It's up there right now. They're looking at it when they got the 99, Titan, like, Gronk was 99 for a couple of years. Kelsey's been 99 for a couple of years. But the first guy up there, he better stop playing with me. I'm too big of a cat to be played like a kitten.

[Unknown Guest]

Somebody got to send that to my phone, man. Somebody got. Hold on, hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's like. That's like. Hold on. That's like being in the grocery store and starving. How the hell you own the grocery store and starve. You work at ea. How the hell you talk about these.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah, I work at EA, but you. You talk about 99. 99. I was still. I was still in high school, so I, I don't really. I got to go back.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's how long I've been kicking, folks. When you was in junior high, I was cooking them. I used to go, I keep telling you, people used to see me on the field with a. With a pain, with a pot. They say, man, what you got that pot? I said, I'm cook, you fools. That's why I got this pot out here on the field. I'm cooking crabs today. Yes, it's a low country bowl. I got crab, I got a sausage, I got corn on the car. I got potatoes. All you bums getting it sound like, yeah, I'm giving it to them. So pull up a table because I'm about to make a mess. All of you.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

We're breaking down SummerSlam, the biggest party of the summer on Wrestling with Freddy. From our bold picks to storyline breakdowns, we will discuss who walks out with gold, who shocks the night and which matches steal the show we call the winners, the upsets and the chaos to expect. Plus, whatever swerves nobody saw coming. Listen to Wrestling with Freddy as part of the Michael Tura Podcast network. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Unknown Host]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club.

[Unknown Guest]

San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Jake Hofer]

We need to embrace this community.

[Unknown Host]

Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Get fired up, y'.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people, an incomparable soccer icon Megan Rapinoe, to the show and we had a blast. Take a listen. Sue and I were like riding the lime bikes the other day and we're like wee people ride bikes because it's fun. We got more incredible guests like Megan in store, plus news of the day day and more. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network.

[Jake Hofer]

I'm Jake Hofer and this is Back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.

[Jake Hofer]

Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

This is an iHeart podcast.