Unc & Ocho WILDEST NFL TAKES Part 2: COWBOYS CHAOS! + Hendrickson Update?! | Nightcap

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Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay – "Unc & Ocho WILDEST NFL TAKES Part 2: COWBOYS CHAOS! + Hendrickson Update?!" | Nightcap

Release Date: August 2, 2025

Hosts: Chad Johnson & Freddy Prinze Jr.

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In this electrifying episode of Club Shay Shay, Chad Johnson and Freddy Prinze Jr. dive deep into the tumultuous happenings within the NFL, focusing primarily on the Cincinnati Bengals' defensive struggles and the intricate dynamics surrounding player contracts. The discussion is rich with insider insights, passionate opinions, and candid reflections on team strategies and player performances.

1. Bengals' Defensive Challenges and Trey Henderson's Contract Situation

The episode kicks off with Chad Johnson addressing the current state of the Bengals' defense, highlighting the stagnation in contract negotiations and the limited participation of key players.

• Chad Johnson [02:07]: "Reported the Bengals camp and told reporters things are exactly the same with contract talks. What I'm not going to do is be a distraction."

Freddy Prinze Jr. responds with skepticism about the optimism surrounding Trey Henderson's (referred to as "Trey") return to practice, emphasizing the financial motivations behind his limited involvement.

• Freddy Prinze Jr. [02:33]: "No, absolutely I'm not feeling optimistic. You got to understand Trey Henderson only came back simply so he doesn't have to pay the fines." [02:33]

Chad elaborates on the lack of progress in negotiations, expressing hope for a fair agreement that benefits both the player and the team.

• Chad Johnson [03:57]: "Man, I'm looking at. Yo, I mean, y'all gonna need him, O Joe, huh?" [03:57]

2. Comparative Analysis of Team Defenses

The hosts compare the Bengals' defensive lineup to that of the Steelers, analyzing the strengths and weaknesses of both teams.

• Chad Johnson [04:43]: "The Steelers got a solid defense. They more than solid on paper. Wait a minute. On paper, outside of T.J. Watt, who's proven. But you got other pieces that have come from other places that they got." [08:02]

Freddy counters by questioning the Bengals' reluctance to invest adequately in their defensive stars, pointing out the disparity in how top defensive players are valued.

• Freddy Prinze Jr. [08:09]: "They got some pieces over there, and they said what they do. They gave TJ White the money? Yeah, they got. And you mean to tell me y'all not even close to the Steelers level of talent." [08:09]

3. Salary Cap Implications and Contract Negotiations

A significant portion of the conversation revolves around the intricacies of the NFL salary cap, contract extensions, and the financial strategies employed by team management.

• Chad Johnson [05:34]: "Yeah, I mean, listen, that's. That's our identity. That's our identity, Joe. One of the few teams." [05:34]

Freddy emphasizes the financial constraints the Bengals face, mentioning their position relative to the salary cap.

• Freddy Prinze Jr. [05:39]: "It's the biggest party of the summer. WWE SummerSlam is here and wrestling with Freddie is all over it. We're talking wild matches, big surprises..." [05:39] (Note: This appears to be an advertisement snippet and is not part of the main discussion.)

Continuing the financial discourse, Chad critiques the Bengals' approach to paying their defensive stars, highlighting inconsistencies and missed opportunities to secure top talent.

• Chad Johnson [09:35]: "They want, they weren't throwing it your way, bro. Oh, they get you there, they fix it up for you." [09:35]

4. Player Performance and Team Dynamics

The hosts reflect on individual player performances and their impact on the team's overall success, touching upon the importance of player morale and team cohesion.

• Chad Johnson [22:05]: "But people funny, man." [22:05]

Freddy shares personal anecdotes about fluctuating performance metrics and their implications for team dynamics.

• Freddy Prinze Jr. [07:04]: "Mike Brown said he ain't going away. Whether you mad or not, but I came back that, that that following season." [07:04]

5. Trade Decisions and Future Projections

Towards the latter part of the episode, the conversation shifts to trade decisions, analyzing past moves and speculating on future transactions that could reshape team rosters.

• Chad Johnson [34:22]: "I don't know what Tennessee was thinking. I still don't know. So, okay, you saved money. You. You didn't want to pay. You didn't want to make." [34:22]

Freddy discusses the implications of trading players like A.J. Brown, questioning the long-term benefits versus short-term gains.

• Freddy Prinze Jr. [35:28]: "Yeah, Listen, you know, year three, trailing. Burks is going into his third year this year. Yeah. Year three is normally the year that lets people know it should make it a break a year." [35:28]

6. Promotional Segments

Interspersed throughout the episode are promotional segments for other podcasts and shows, such as Wrestling with Freddie, San Diego FC Behind the Flow, and Good Game with Sarah Spain. These segments provide listeners with information about related content and upcoming episodes but are not part of the main discussion.

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Notable Quotes:

• Freddy Prinze Jr. [02:33]: "You got to understand Trey Henderson only came back simply so he doesn't have to pay the fines."

• Chad Johnson [08:02]: "The Steelers got a solid defense. They more than solid on paper."

• Chad Johnson [09:35]: "They want, they weren't throwing it your way, bro."

• Freddy Prinze Jr. [07:04]: "Mike Brown said he ain't going away. Whether you mad or not, but I came back that, that that following season."

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Conclusion:

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, Chad Johnson and Freddy Prinze Jr. offer a thorough and unfiltered analysis of the Cincinnati Bengals' defensive woes, contract negotiations, and strategic decisions impacting the team's future. Their candid discussion provides listeners with a deeper understanding of the complexities involved in managing an NFL team's roster and finances, all while maintaining a relatable and engaging dialogue.

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Note: Portions of the transcript appeared to contain promotional content for other podcasts and shows. These segments were excluded from the summary to maintain focus on the primary discussion between the hosts.

Transcript

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

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[Chad Johnson]

All.

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[Jake Hofer]

I'm Jake Kofer and this is Back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focus on thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?

[Chad Johnson]

Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.

[Jake Hofer]

Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Chad Johnson]

Reported the Bengals camp and told reporters things are exactly the same with contract talks. What I'm not going to do is be a distraction. Excuse me. Trey isn't practicing but is back strictly to eliminate the $50,000 daily fine. Trey was seen coaching up Shamar Shemar Stewart. Also Ocho. Are you feeling optimistic?

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

No, absolutely I'm not feeling optimistic. You got to understand Trey Henderson only came back simply so he doesn't have to pay the fines. Yep, he's not There. He's not there, you know, on, on, on, on, on, on, on.

[Chad Johnson]

Good notice, right? He's on there because, you know, you.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Don'T want to pay the fines. And then. Well, we still at a standstill. There has been no forward progress in us getting a deal done. Must be far off. The only reason he's there is because I don't want to accumulate a certain amount of fines. 50,000 a day, they can't rescind. They got to take it. They got it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I'll be there, too.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

One thing about it, and one thing I know about the Brown family, what you're not going to do is you're not going to bully Mike Brown. You're not going to bully my Brown. It's not happening. If, if his feet are cemented and he said, this is what we can do and this is what we can pay. That's what it's going to be. That's what it's going to be, you know, And I'm hoping. I'm hoping because defensively we need all hands on deck. We need all the help we can get. Frank Henderson had a hell of a year last year and the year before. I would love for him to be compensated as such. I hope. I hope at some point they come to an agreement and a number that makes sense for both, but as of right now, it ain't happening.

[Chad Johnson]

Man, I'm looking at. Yo, I mean, y' all gonna need him, O Joe, huh? Yeah, y' all gonna need him.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Absolutely, absolutely. Listen, listen. Our defense was 26, 27th ranked or something, something like that in the NFL last year, 25th, and we had him. So, hell, even with the improvements, even with the improvements at the. At the middle. Excuse me, at the middle linebacker position and, and getting Shamar Stewart and other offseason acquisitions, we need everybody we can get to make sure we don't look like we did last year. Hey, hey, Joe. We don't need to be top five defense in NFL. We just need you to be somewhere in the middle of the pack and stop somebody if we score 30 points.

[Chad Johnson]

That man has 17 and a half sacks. And y' all finish where y' all finish. So take away them 17 and a half sacks, where you think y' all gonna finish?

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hey, don't. Don't talk, don't talk about my team. Like, I'm just.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm just here because. Oo, it's not like. It's not like y' all got like. Y' all just like, loaded with talent like the Eagles, right? So A one piece goes out, you're like, okay, cool. We good. You know, they lost two key pieces, but they still got, you know, still got Carter, they still got Davis, they still got Braun. They got the, the corners and things like that.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

They got.

[Chad Johnson]

They good. They, they, they locked right, bro, Y' all really got one player that people worry about on defense. It's him.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, and with no pressure. They didn't spent all that money on offense.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, I mean, listen, that's. That's our identity. That's our identity, Joe. One of the few teams.

[Chad Johnson]

But you can't let you, you can't let your big fella. You can't let your DN go. Ocho, come on now.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hey, hey, Joe. This is business, Joe. It's a business, Joe. You know, all of all the money. I think we. 29 million under the cap. Don't quote me. I might be wrong. I think we're somewhere around there. So I think they can get to a number that's decent. You know, the owners feel comfortable. That can make Trey feel comfortable. But hell, if, if it was, I, I would assume it would have been done by now. Hell, we have six months since the season ended last year.

[Chad Johnson]

They might as well go and trade it, man. Go and trade it, Mocho. That's what they should do. But, but they probably, like Ocho say that's. That's a prideful. That's a prideful, man.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

He don't play. He don't play on, boy.

[Chad Johnson]

They don't, they don't. They don't let you back him into a corner. They don't let you bully them.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hey, Joe. I was in my prime, Joe, you know, and I, I was, I was upset. You know, that just something media blaming me for us losing. I'm like, well, hell, how you. How y' all blaming me for. For us losing? I'm doing everything I'm supposed to do. I'm like, you know, you know, and I was like, man, but let me get up out of here then, man, please. But who, who's the. The former owner of the Red Skin? I'm. God, I'm sorry. Dan Snyder and Dan Snyder offered Mike Brown two first round picks. Joe. Man, I'm in my prime, Joe. Onto my. I'm talking about prime mouthful of gold. Yeah, that boy.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Mike Brown said he ain't going away. Whether you mad or not, but I came back that, that, that, that following season. Boy had about 560 yards that season, Joe. It wasn't nothing wrong with me. I went from a 13, 1400 yard season to all of a sudden, 500 out the blue. And I'm healthy, man, listen, boy, what.

[Chad Johnson]

They want, they weren't throwing it your way, bro. Oh, they get you there, they fix it up for you.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yo, that's that. That let me know. Okay, I see. I see. I see who run the show. You know what? Let me play the game the right way. That's all. That's all I need to see. Joe, I went from a 1300 yard season the next season after being disgruntled, all of a sudden, I only got 500 yards, man. They ain't heard a peep for me after that.

[Chad Johnson]

But yeah, hey, y' all better. Y', all. But y' all better get your head. Hey, you see the Steelers. And the Steelers got a solid defense.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Solid. They more than solid on paper. Wait a minute. On paper, outside of T. T.J. watt, who's proven. But you got other pieces that have come from other places that they got.

[Chad Johnson]

High Smith, they got Hebrick, I think that's his name. They. They got. They did Cam Hayward.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Still rented, man.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Right? 56 high. Yeah, yeah, He. He was. He was balling last.

[Chad Johnson]

I think he kind of ding. But the other guy, he might be 51, but they. They got some pieces over there, and they said what they do. They gave TJ White the money? Yeah, they got. And you mean to tell me y' all not even close to the Steelers level of talent, and y' all best player on defense, Y' all don't want to pay him. You should have told him. You do something, you should. You should not have told him that. You. We gonna take care of it. Because the man went out there, led the league in sacks. Ocho, he's all broke, and so he has an expectation. He like, okay, y'. All. Y' all say y' all gonna take care of me. Okay, here it is. I'm. Take care of me. Well, this is what we could do. Nah, nah, that ain't taking care of me. That's taking care of y'. All make the money, right?

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hey.

[Chad Johnson]

The Bengals just started paying people like three years ago when they paid Joe Burrow for the longest time. They got Boomer Silent out of there because they want to pay. Boom. They don't pay nobody, O. Joe. You know that. You know that first hand. You've been there. One day.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

They didn't open up the water. Now, they didn't start to open that wallet up, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Joe Burrow. And. And. And. And. And the chase they played. They played a couple of offensive linemen. They, uh, O' Brien, O.B. they paid him, but like I said, they just started that recently. Bingo's been cheap. Everybody know the bingo cheat. Jerry Jones says.

[Jake Hofer]

I'm Jake Hofer and this is back 40, a limited series show on Wire to hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part part of the farm with less than ideal access?

[Chad Johnson]

Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.

[Jake Hofer]

Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

It's the biggest party of the summer. WWE SummerSlam is here and wrestling with Freddie is all over it. We're talking wild matches, big surprises, and our boldest predictions yet. From celebrity showdowns to the chaos inside a steel cage, we're breaking down every match and calling who we think walks top. This card is loaded from Cody Rhodes, John Cena, Rhea, Ripley and Tiffy, just to name a few. This lineup is ready to tear down the house. We'll give you our unfiltered takes, honest debates and you already know, a ton of laughs along the way. We're covering the upsets, the wild returns and the championship moments. Nobody expects. We'll get into the matches that steal the show, the storylines that explode, and those oh my God, did that just happen moments that make SummerSlam legendary. Don't miss it. Listen to Wrestling with Freddie as part of the My Coultera Podcast Network. Find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Chad Johnson]

All.

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[Chad Johnson]

You just can't help himself today. He said last year's chance for CD Lamb's contract extension was much louder than yesterday's chant for Micah. Jared said, man, that was a little faint noise compared to the way they were hollering last year. Paid Lamb. Whoever's not in, you could count on a few hollering that, but it was big and loud last year. Chance for Lamb.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

I don't know. I don't. I don't know. Listen, I told you what I think Jerry's doing. I told you what I think he's doing. He's perfect. Every time. He's not pranking us, but every time it's time for a player to get paid, even though he has to pay them top dollar, I think he purposely waits to the last, to the last minute for a reason he's doing on purpose. So the attention can always be on the Cowboys. So the attention can always be on. Be on him. Let's say. What if he did pay Michael Parsons already? What would be the conversation? What would be the conversation right now?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, that. Are you. Are you. What you gonna do with that?

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Wait, what do you mean that that get scheduled to make what, 60, 61, 62, something like that?

[Chad Johnson]

Billion dollars. Hey, is he gonna extend him?

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Extend him? He just signed it.

[Chad Johnson]

But he got two years. He got another year left on that already. Yeah, that. That. That do. Damn hey, that's what I say. Oo hey, that's what I say. These years go by fast. You look up. I mean, hey, I just remember celebrating the 50th birthday. Now I'm closer to 60 than I am 50. And that's the thing you look up, man. Man, this time ain't waiting on nobody.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Oh, it a, it ain't one thing and one thing it would never do. It would never, it would never. Hey, what, hey, say that, you remember that quote you said about why you wear a watch? You know, remember that quote? I gotta read it out. I ain't got my pad.

[Chad Johnson]

Right.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

I will watch. Why?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey. How valuable my time is not to tell time. Yeah, that guy, after this year, that could have two years left.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Okay, okay, man, that, that, that killing them, boy. That killing them One hell of a team off.

[Chad Johnson]

80 million dollar signing bonus. 231 million in guaranteed money.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

That's what he got. That would that guy go ahead, brother.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, mad at him at all. I mean, you know how much a man got to pay? How much a man got to be worth to pay you? 230 and guarantee it.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

I'm on that. Come on now.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, to the man, the man that got a hundred million dollar home. How much money you think he actually.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Got if you can afford 100 million dollar home? You know what? I, I give you one better. How about the man that has a 360 million dollar yacht?

[Chad Johnson]

That's a crew. You got to have a crew. Probably 30, 30 to 50 people.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

And don't get me started, man. There's a whole different. We think athletes are rich. Well, hell, what you think the people that's paying them are?

[Chad Johnson]

No, they rich and wealthy. They wealthy, man. There's a difference between rich and wealthy. Because see, the wealthy, the wealthy people pay the rich people salary. That's how that work. That's how that work, as a matter of fact.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. And you know there's a, there's another level above the wealthy people.

[Chad Johnson]

The author, the ultra.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Come on now.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. See when you start, when you start get oo when you start getting, when you start getting to that 20, 30 for first of all, you start getting 20, 30, billion. That's it. Now you get to 50 to 75 and then you get these guys that got 100 and then they go from 1 to 150, 150 to 200, 200 to 250. Now you get that Elon Musk that's in a class by himself that he's 300 billion. And then, you know, you got Larry Ellison and you got Mark Zuckerberg, and you got, you know, Jeff Bezos. You got those guys, the two hundreds. But, Ocho, it's kind of like once you get, like, to a certain number, it's, like, hot. You. Your body don't know the difference between 200 degrees and 300 degrees.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Once you get 50 billion, you get 50. What can't you buy with 50 billion that you need 75 billion for? Besides, you say, I want to have it, which I get. I ain't got no problem with that.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hey, and it's so funny. When it comes to billionaires, the toys that they like to buy are completely different than what the millionaires like to buy.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, they dropping. They drop. They dropping. They dropping 100 million, 200 million artwork. You know, I'm saying, they got a painting, you know, Picasso, or they go in raw. You know, they. They. They. They. They spending. They spend money. Michelangelo, they spending money on Picasso. They spending money like that, Ocho, you know, they got a home over here. They got a home over there. And, you know, they got a helicopter. They got a jet. You know, they take. You know, they got a.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

A.

[Chad Johnson]

A place over here that they'll take the. You know, take the yacht to and get up.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah. Hey, man, it's a different world out there.

[Chad Johnson]

But so, Jerry, you heard him. So it doesn't matter how loud the chance were. You heard them say, hey, Michael, wait a minute.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Or as he would say, play.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Michael, one thing. One thing Jerry gonna do. Is he gonna do things his way?

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, for sure.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

He gonna do things his way and on his time. I don't like the fact that Mike is missing all these valuable days, and he's not. He's not going through the. I call it putting a callus. Creating a callus on the body to get ready to play football in the regular season. I don't like because you. He gonna cut. Nor Micah, as explosive as he is, he gonna go from zero to 60 just like that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yep.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

No, I don't think that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but look, this is Jerry. Jerry gonna be Jerry. He's gonna do like you said he's gonna do thing on his timeline. He already knows he has to pay Micah. Micah Parsons don't fall off trees. You got one, and you get an opportunity to have him for the next. You know, you got him. You. I mean, Micah's 26, so this is his fifth year. So you get it. To have him for Another five to eight years at bare minimum. And you know you're gonna have to pay him. And guess what? This is not the other. This is not the only contract that you're gonna get it. You're gonna guess what, you're gonna probably have to extend him another time. Just like Miles Garrett got extended, and he got extended again. TJ Watt got extended, and he got extended again. So guess what? You're gonna probably have to give him two extensions.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah. And.

[Chad Johnson]

Michael Parsons probably, by the time he's 32, 33, is gonna probably be worth then sign contracts over $300 million. That's just. That's the NFL that we live in now, Ocho. That's. That's where it's at. And he would have earned every dime.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, people don't listen. Somebody in the chat. Michael Bennett, training camp. Ocho, what you. Is Michael Parson practicing? Has he touched the field?

[Chad Johnson]

What are you holding in?

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, he holding in. How we.

[Chad Johnson]

Like.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

What are we talking about, man? I just said he gonna have to go from 0 to 60 when he signs. He's holding in so he doesn't get fined.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, that's 50,000 a day.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

It is. 50,000 a day, huh? Yeah, yeah. Like God, Lee. Common sense. Damn, that's crazy.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, he's. He's. He's been a limited participant because he's citing back tightness.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Oh, back what?

[Chad Johnson]

His bike. His back tight.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

But people funny, man.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't blame him.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hey, that's.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't blame him. Like I said, I. I. 50, 000 a day you're gonna be in training camp. I mean, you're gonna be in training camp at bare minimum, 20 days. That's a meal.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, ain't no. Ain't no point. Ain't no point of playing like that. I'm here because they can't forget. They can't forgive that money either.

[Chad Johnson]

They can't really like it used to. But guess what? Since you can't forgive it, guess what. Go ahead and put in my contract. I. Whatever. What. Whatever. I would have lost whatever I lost by not showing up. I'm gonna need that in the contract. Yes.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Matter of fact. Matter of fact, put it in my sign. In my signing.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Like Dollar Bill told. Like St. Louis told $ Bill, do something to make me feel better. That what he told Brooklyn? What was it? What was it? What was the dude named? Brooklyn? What was the other dude name? When he. When he put that. He put the cigarette out of what you call him? Nose Man. I forgot a little Bad to dope. Hey, Say hey. Do something to make me feel better. Hey. Yeah, look, they're gonna get it done. I. I just hate, you know, Michael, Michael, Michael, Mike. Mike is like, well, hold on. Y' all keep on telling me y' all gonna get it done. Until that thing hit my bank account, I don't believe it's gonna get done.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

But listen, I mean, Jerry is. Jerry's being Jerry. He's done this to everybody. So the timetable, I'm not sure when it's going to be me. If I was the player, I would have asked Jared. I went. I would have went to him quietly. I say, listen, I understand you have a way of doing things. I'm not here to bully you and tell you how to run your business. But I need to be on the field. I need to be practicing, especially when it comes to training camp. I want to be as far ahead of the curve as I can be going into the preseason because I'm not gonna get that many snaps getting acclimated to the speed of the goddamn game. Please, sir. Thank you kindly. And close the door. And walk out.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, remember what he said about cd? What CD gonna get out of being in practice, being in training camp, being all this?

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Man, please. Well, actually, you know what? CD ain't missed a goddamn beat. He miss a beat last year. He a miss a beat. Dak went out. He still was very productive.

[Chad Johnson]

No, I think they ended up. Didn't they end up. They. I think they ended up shutting CD down, too.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Well, f. Towards the end of the season.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Jake Hofer]

I'm Jake Hover and this is back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode, I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?

[Chad Johnson]

Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.

[Jake Hofer]

Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

It's the biggest party of the summer. WWE SummerSlam is here and wrestling with Freddie is all over it. We're talking wild matches, big surprises, and our boldest predictions yet. From celebrity showdowns to the chaos inside a steel cage, we're breaking down every match and calling who we think walks out on top. This card is loaded from Cody Rhodes, John Cena, Rhea Ripley and Tiffy, just to name a few. This lineup is ready to tear down the house. We'll Give you our unfiltered takes, honest debates, and you already know a ton of laughs along the way. We're covering the upsets, the wild returns, and the championship moments. Nobody expects we'll get into the matches that steal the show, the storylines that explode and and those, oh my God, did that just happen moments that make SummerSlam legendary. Don't miss it. Listen to Wrestling with Freddy as part of the My Kultura Podcast network. Find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Jake Hofer]

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[Unknown Host]

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Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sarah Spain]

Get fired up, y'.

[Chad Johnson]

All.

[Sarah Spain]

Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people and and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe to the show and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, Co hosting a podcast with her fiance Sue, Bird watching former teammates retire and more. Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete? The final. The final and the locker room. I really, really like you. Just, you can't replicate, you can't get back showing up to the locker room every morning just to talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and college superstar Az Foot. I mean, seriously, y', all, the guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And you know, we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Chad Johnson]

Shafter says Terry McLaren is seeking a contract greater than that of DK Metcalf, the one that he received from the Steelers. Here's what Adam Schefter had to say. I would say DK was in the same draft class as Terry McLaren. He got about 33 million per year. I wouldn't think that Terry's willing to take less than that. I think he wants considerably more than that. Washington, they're not there right now. They love the value Terry McLaren, but they love the value in him at a different price. McClouring is in the final year of his current contract, which he's due to make a base salary of 15.5 million and carry a cap hit of 25 million.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

You just said they value McLaurin and what he brings to the team, but not at that price. Well, they got to find a happy medium. They got to have a happy medium because all you got to do is pull up the numbers. I don't have the numbers in front of me. I'm. I'm not sure what. What DK Metcalf has done the past three, four years. I'm not sure what. Well, I know Terry McLaurin. He's had a thousand yards every year, every season.

[Chad Johnson]

But here. Ocho, how many times you heard somebody say, I. I like it, but I don't like it at that price?

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, all the time.

[Chad Johnson]

See, that's the thing. Hey, they like Terry. They don't like Terry at that price because he said Shefton. If what Chef is saying is true, he wants to be north of 3330. So now that's CD. CDs at 34. Jetta is at 35. Now, chase, pole, vault, everybody, and put it at 40. So look. And he's looking at. Hold on. I'm signing his contract. Two years.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Turn on the effing film. That. That's all I need to see. Turn on the film. And I wish. I wish Jaden Daniels had the kind of leverage and power, which I think he does. But as a rookie, I don't think he wants to. To push that button. Joe Burrow went upstairs and Mike Brown say, boss man, we need to get Uno and we need to get five. Done. We need. I. I don't know how you're gonna do it or what you need to do. I'm not sure what the book.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, you got to get some years on this bill before you get that kind of cash. Yeah, that's a. That's a Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Lamar, homeboy.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Right. But I. I wish.

[Chad Johnson]

But he will. He will have that kind of. He will. He will wear that kind of hammer.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

I think Jayden Daniels understands the importance of having his number one target, for sure. I think the team, the owners, they all understand that. You know, we talk about. We talk about numbers. Find a number that's good, that's not insulting. He's not asking to be the highest paid. He said, put me in the. Put me in the ballpark and where I belong, and let me know you value me. That's all.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, I mean. Well, Shefton reported that he want to be valued more than what. What Minnesota value? Jetta. I want more than CD.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

You want more than Jetta?

[Chad Johnson]

Here's the thing. If DK is at 33, the next is 34. CD, the next is 35. Jetta. So if he don't want 33, what he want?

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Oh, 15 to 33 is. Is. Is.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, that's a big jump, a huge jump.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Are you saying is he trying to reset the mark, not reset the market, but be second high second?

[Chad Johnson]

I don't. I don't. I don't know what he trying to do. I'm just saying what she said. She says they were in the same draft class. I think Terry McLaurin and DK were in the same draft class. DK got 33. I wouldn't think that Terry is willing to take less than that. I think he wants considerably more than that. So you talking about 36, 37.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Oh, hey, that's gonna be tough, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, listen, don't get me in here lying.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hey, that. That's gonna be. That's gonna be tough. That's gonna be tough. I understand it. You listen. You got to fight for what. You got to fight for what you want because you only get. Hey, listen, you're only gonna have this kind of leverage one time. Yeah, one time. So you got to get it right. Yeah, you got to get it right.

[Chad Johnson]

So the question is, like you said, we don't. I mean, look, I. I don't know what he's asking for. Shefter may. Hey, maybe Shefter talked to his agent. I don't know.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

And this is Chef, like Shams and W. Shams and woes. He ain't wrong stand. It's coming from somewhere.

[Chad Johnson]

Hell, yeah. It absolutely is. But like I said, I like it. I don't like it at that price.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Right, right.

[Chad Johnson]

You know, I'm saying. Hey, hey, hey, Ocho. I might like Chrome Heart jeans. I don't like them at that price.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

I Love scary Terry. Man, I hope. I hope we get what he deserves, but he. You got to be. You got to be willing to fight, bruh. Especially what you're asking for. If. If what Adam Scheft is reporting is correct, you got to be willing to fight. You're gonna have to hold your ground, because one thing they will use against you, you got that C on your chest. You know, they will use your love for the game and use it against you.

[Chad Johnson]

I know firsthand.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hey.

[Chad Johnson]

I know firsthand how it goes, Ocho.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Oh, we gonna. We gonna stall him out. He gonna fold at some point.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. He loved the game. He loved being around. He loved being around the team. He love the guys, you know? The Titans have officially released trailing Burts, so let's revisit the night. The 2022 trade. The Titans traded A.J. brown for the draft rights. The Trilling Burks, Roger McCreary, Nicholas Petit Furie, and Kyle Phillips.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Man, I. I saw the.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't. I don't know. I don't know what Tennessee was thinking. I still don't know. So, okay, you saved money. You. You didn't want to pay. You didn't want to make. You didn't want to pay A.J. brown what he would. What the value.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

What he had earned. Okay. You saved money. What has it gotten you?

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

They thought Trey and Burks was the answer.

[Chad Johnson]

They did, because they say he's the same type of guy you look at. He's big. He's physical. Bro. If y' all watched him and y' all watch A.J. brown. They not. They not the same. They not. But sometimes you get. You get caught up. You get mad at somebody, and you convince yourself somebody is better. They got mad at AJ because he wanted what was rightfully he felt he had earned. And it's like, nah, we gonna trade you. You should have paid him just for dabbling a deal with the quarterbacks that y' all had. That's what you should have paid him. Just on that alone.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah. Listen, you know, year three, trailing. Burks is going into his third year this year. Yeah. Year three is normally the year that lets people know it should make it a break a year. Yeah, maybe. Maybe this might have been the year he figures it out.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, he had broke his collarbone, so he was gonna be out for, like, six to eight weeks.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, that's. That's. That's messed up. The business is dirty, boy. The business is dirty. Especially when the small sample size of what you've been able to show us so far, it's not enough for us to keep you around to allow that collarbone to heal?

[Chad Johnson]

No, absolutely not.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Is players like that that I wish, I wish I had the opportunity to work with in the off season.

[Chad Johnson]

Oo he had 59 catches, 699 yards and one touchdown for a career.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Wait, that's a career?

[Chad Johnson]

Yep. Three seasons.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

You sure that's right?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, that what he say? He had 350. He had, had played three seasons. He had 53 catches, 699 yards, two touchdowns in his NFL career. Oh, in 2022, he played 11 games. He had 33 receptions for 444 yards and 2023. He played 11 games. He had 20 receptions, he had 255 yards. In 2024, he played five games. Zero receptions, zero yards. Okay.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

He must have been, he must have been hurt and then just broke his collarbone. Yeah, Dan, that's tough. Damn.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I think it's fair to say the Eagles won that trade.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, you know, I, I, I hope.

[Chad Johnson]

Probably like, hey, y' all got any other players y' all want to get rid of over there?

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, I hope, I hope you get another opportunity though, when he, when he.

[Chad Johnson]

Gets, Yeah, I think, oh, he's a first round pick. Too young, so he'll get another opportunity.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Young.

[Chad Johnson]

But I Wonder what his. 40 times. What do you run the 40 in?

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

He's the first round pick. Hell, he got, he had to run fast. He ain't run slow because if he ran slow, there's no, listen, his car is 455. Yeah, hell, I ran 4 5. But I played, I played 4 3. There's a difference. The game ain't played in a straight line.

[Chad Johnson]

And he, look, they keep. See, they thought he was gonna be A.J. brown. A.J. brown is a different type of receiver. A.J. was ran. He ran 449.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hey, but hey, they play so much faster than that. 40 time, man.

[Chad Johnson]

For sure. Yeah. 6, 1, 2, 26.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Oh, man. Oh, but he big, bro.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, damn.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

226.

[Chad Johnson]

You can't look at him and tell.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

I mean, he about my size. Jesus.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, you could. Yeah, he's, he's a, he's a, he's a physical receiver. He after the catch. Now he catch the deep ball, but he wants the ball in his hands.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

He want the ball in his hand. Okay, tackle me. Yeah, you faster than me. Okay, let me see how many times you want to tackle me though. Okay. Yeah. Okay. You right. I can't run. Yes, yes, yes.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

All right.

[Chad Johnson]

That's crazy, but I guarantee you after the fourth Time. You ain't want to tackle me.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hey, like two times.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm gonna still farm you the second. The third time, I'll put my helmet in your. I'm gonna hit my helmet right in your chest.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah. You see what Marshawn Lynn say?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

He hits you in your face over and over and over.

[Chad Johnson]

Tua looks to rebuild a relationship with Tyreek Hill after The Reek's Week 18 outbursts. Let's take a listen to what Tua had to say.

[H]

You guys aren't the only people that heard that. You know, a lot of people that follow football, that follow the Miami Dolphins, that follow Tyreek, that are fans of his, Everyone has seen that. So when you say something like that, it's. You don't just come back from that with, hey, my bad.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

No, you got.

[H]

You got to work that, that relationship up. You got to build everything up again. And, yeah, that. It's still a work in progress, not just for me, but for everybody. But like I said, he's. He's working on himself. He's working on the things that he say. You know, he says he wants to get better with and do better on. So that's the first step to me, and so I commend him for doing that.

[Chad Johnson]

Not one lotto.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, not at all. Can you refresh the people that are. That. That are watching, the people that are listening? What he's referring to, though? Because he said something. But the people might need context if they don't remember what Tyreek said at the end of the season.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, I can't give you verbatim, but I think he said something that he might be looking to get out of here because he liked winning and, you know, he got to do what's in the best interest for him. Things of that nature. He said he said a lot of stuff.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, he did and he did. But I, I, I think also I love what. I love what Tua said, obviously publicly, too, is going to have his receivers back, but also hold his receiver accountable, and he should. Everything he said also what, for me, as a football player, a former player, understanding the frustrations that a receiver would have, who had a down season for the first time, who's not used to having a lackluster season like that, the frustrations build up, the inconsistency. All right, I'm not used to this. So what's the first thing you do? You vent about not actually wanting to be in that situation anymore and seeing that whatever method Tyreek was trying to do and trying to maybe find A way to get out of Miami and find somewhere else to go, maybe back to Kansas City or wherever it may be. It didn't work out that way. So what I have to do now, I can't take what I said back. All I can do is work on myself, apologize to my teammates, apologize to my quarterback and my coaches. And there's one way to make them forget about everything, is do what you do best. Catching touchdowns. That's catching passes and working your ass off. And that's three things that he already does, which is why he's one of the best at what he does now in the game. I think he's gonna be fine.

[Chad Johnson]

Sometimes when you're angry, Ocho.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And. And I get it. And I hate that. I really do. I. I hate when guys get angry and they don't speak to the media.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Because when you score 50, there's never a time when you. Somebody dropped 50 in the NBA, they didn't speak to the media.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

There's never a time when somebody had 150, 202, three touchdowns. They. They, they. They didn't speak to the media. But the moment you get a little frustrated, you don't want to speak to the media. But that's certain situations, right? If it's a situation where you're so upset and the words that come out of your mouth might do irreparable harm, go ahead and chalk it up and say they.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

I can't.

[Chad Johnson]

I can't speak right now.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

But what. What. What did you. What you're saying? When emotions are high, logic is.

[Chad Johnson]

Logic is low. And that's why I said, you know what? And I. I get up. I don't. I want you to. Good, bad or indifferent.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Johnson]

Because you make the same money. It ain't like. You know what? I had a bad game, Ocho. So Ocho had a bad game. Ocho only had four for 50 yards. Well, Ocho, we gonna give you four for 50 yards, money. Ocho had 10 for 260. Okay? Now, Ocho, we gonna give You 10 for 260 money. You make the same either way.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

But we are human. Yeah. There were. There were times, man, I spoke to the media after the game. I'm seething because I know we had some guys that didn't play like they were supposed to.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

And sometimes I was one of those guys.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Oh, same, same. Listen, I can remember my games where I played bad. Oh, I'm talking about vividly.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes. Buffalo probably tell the media I got to do better.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

John's job is to throw it. My job is to catch it.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Catch it? Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, if he's throwing it, I ain't catch it. I ain't doing my job. So I'm letting him and the team down.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I like the fact that Tua acknowledged what he said, because a lot of times. Oh, man, we know. Hey, we. We know how guys are. So forth and so on. That's our brother. He didn't do that.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

No.

[Chad Johnson]

That lets me know that what he said, that not only bothered him, but it bothered other people in the room. And they had a conversation with Ty. They've talked to Tyreek about this.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

[Chad Johnson]

They talk to Tyreek about this. And I like that. Oo, because, you know, sometimes. Oho. They try to gloss it over, man. You know, it ain't that big of a deal. Oh, absolutely, man. Please.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah. And there's only one person that can get away with saying that, and that was the quarterback. That's the only one. That's the only person. Because it all fat. All falls back on quarterback not being there. Okay? My numbers aren't what they used to be. And anything that Tyreek says at the end of the season, who they gonna point the finger at?

[Chad Johnson]

Quarterback.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Quarterback.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. And so. But Tyreek. Tyreek knows what he has to do. I looked at Tyreek body this year, compared to what it was last year, he looks 10, 15 pounds lighter.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

I told you. I told you what he looked like at the goddamn workout. Why that workout? Oh, my God.

[Chad Johnson]

He look. He looks. The thing is. Oo, he's already so explosive, even if he leaves a step, he's still faster than anybody else.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hey. Completely. And it's crazy. And you know what? The fact he didn't lose a step because he just ran a goddamn 101 last month. What are we. What? And he's not even training to run track. How you. You not even track training and you ran a 101. Imagine if he was in track shape or had track technique or got track coaching. That. That ten one drops down to nine, eight, nine, nine.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, he might. He definitely get this. He probably get the 10.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Easy, easy. Come on, man. He gonna be. Gonna be all right, though. He's gonna be all right. He gonna be.

[Chad Johnson]

But he just like. Look, you gotta realize where he came from. See, they never had these problems in Kansas City.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

No, sir.

[Chad Johnson]

So Tyreek ain't used to this. Tyreek used to my homeboy being there. And so he used to like knowing. Okay, now, granted, not his first couple years in Miami, he's number one. He gonna get all the balls. Blah, blah, blah. Now, in. In Kansas City, you know, he had to split that with Kelsey, maybe Sammy Watkins or maybe someone else. But he knew he's gonna get X and he knew Mahomes was going to be there.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

It's hard no matter how great you are. Look, only DeAndre Hopkins can just go through quarterbacks and still put up Pro Bowl All Pro numbers.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

And you know who else did it? Goddamn Andre Johnson.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hold up. He had a quarterback carousel as well. And for some reason, production didn't even matter, regardless who got there throwing it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yep. So I'm. I'm happy that he said Tyreek is working, but like you said, it takes time. And see, Ocho, he could have lied. Oh, yeah. We don't move past that and moved on and said, nah, nah.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Nope, Sorry. Gonna make everybody forget about this. Week one, guarantee you. Because, you know, I know. I know what Mike McName is going to do. I know what he's. I know what he gonna call coming out the gate. Week one, they dialing up 10.

[Chad Johnson]

But see, that's what. That's where you need leadership.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Because look at the situation that we dealt with in Baltimore in 2000. The offense went five weeks and we didn't score touchdowns. It could have. It could have split us at the seams. And the thing that really helped me rate Woody, two guys on defense, one guy on offense. We. We were really close. We did everything together on the road. We was in each other's room, laughing, talking. We went out. We all. We always went out together. We went to get something to eat. We did that together. And I just remember telling him, I said, you guys, y'. All. Y'.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

All.

[Chad Johnson]

Y' all are doing unbelievable. Y' all having a great season, historically, great season. I said. But the thing I loved about football is they don't take great units to the Super Bowl. They take teams.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Johnson]

So I don't care. I don't care what y' all do if we don't start doing our part right. But when we start doing our part, don't you guys let down.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

We'll get what we have to get fixed. Y' all just stay the course. And me being able to relay that to Woody, to be able to relay that to Rod. Excuse me. To Array, and to let them know that, hey, and then, you know, to tell Brian, bro, I ain't telling you. You don't know, but it ain't getting done.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah. When I think about that 2018, y' all had. Yeah, that defense was so good. It was so good. Y' all didn't have to be as great as they did. All you.

[Chad Johnson]

No, that would have been unfair.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, it would have been not fair. All y' all had to do. Just meet him halfway. Just meet him halfway. Give us. Give us 10 points. We'll take care of the rest.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, if we got. If. If we got a. If we got a 10 nothing lead. Oh, it was over for you. Unless. Unless we fumbled and you got a scooping score. You got to pick six, Right. With Marvin Lewis. We. We started playing and Marvin would say, shay, give us 10.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, I say 10.

[Chad Johnson]

What we ain't about to get Ted. What? Marvin said, I remember we playing. We started playing. Marvin say, hey, give us 10. We got to the playoffs.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Marvin said, give us seven. I say, marvin, do you realize what you said? I said, marvin, these teams in the playoffs. He said, you should give us seven and give it to us early. We played the Raiders and that. We had a great. So Marvin was the DC Jack Del Rio was the linebackers coach.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Rex Ryan was the D line coach, I think. Who was the. Who was our DB coach? I forget his name, but he ended up going to be D.C. somewhere. But we were loaded. We playing the Raiders in the championship game. They said, give us seven. It's over. Suge say, shay, y' all give us seven early at the half?

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, it's over.

[Chad Johnson]

I said, ray, they the number. They like the number one scoring team in football. What you mean, give us. Give us. Say, shay, give us seven and a half. I said, well, I'm good for seven. You know, big play, Shay. Oh, big play, Shay. Good for seven. I got that. Hey, I got that touchdown. I came to the sideline. Hey, like Smokey Mama told him, make it work. Yeah, this ain't enough. Smoking say, ain't enough. It ain't enough. She say, make it enough.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hey, was it running back Napoleon Kaufman back then?

[Chad Johnson]

No, it was Charlie Garner.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Okay. I forgot about Charlie. I forgot about Charlie.

[Chad Johnson]

Charlie Garner? Yeah. Nah, Nap. I don't think. I don't think Nappy was there then.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

He was nice. He was nice, too.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, he had speed.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Yeah, he nice.

[Chad Johnson]

Now, you let him get outside now, he gonna cause some problems for you. Yeah, he. He hit us for about 201one year at the Broncos, but I think that's the biggest thing. And see, I think that's where veteran presence comes in, especially guys that are. That's not really concerned about numbers or. Or you're Trying to win at a certain point in time, bro. What? Man, I don't care how much money you make, man, when you lose it, it sucks.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Oh, it's bad, man.

[Chad Johnson]

You bad. You hate. I like. Damn.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

It's bad.

[Chad Johnson]

You ain't. Oh, Joe. And people. People in chat. You're not thinking about a check. You like, man, I'm out here in this hot heat. I'm out here in this cold. I'm out here. You know, we. My body's aching. I'm hurting, and we losing.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hey, hold on now. You got to think about this now. I was in Cincinnati 11 years. What, 10? You know how many winning seasons I had in Cincinnati?

[Chad Johnson]

How many?

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

May, maybe what, two, one.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, Lord.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Ash might be able to be able to check me on that. But there's a reason I chose to have so much fun. There's a reason. How do I block out the losing part?

[Chad Johnson]

I don't know. Make sure I'm better man than me.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hey, make sure I'm doing everything I can.

[Chad Johnson]

True.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

That's all I can do. I know that 2005 season. That was a winning season. We had. Might have had it. Might. Might have had two. Two winning seasons maybe.

[Chad Johnson]

And your career or in Cincinnati?

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Cincinnati. Cincinnati is my career. What you mean?

[Chad Johnson]

You played in New England. You got a year out there.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Oh, that don't count, man.

[Chad Johnson]

That's on your resume. And guess what? If you go to the hall, they're gonna put that on your plate.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

I ain't going to the Hall. I put my own jacket on.

[Chad Johnson]

That's okay. But if you were to. They go put it. And everybody said, I guarantee you. Go to Wikipedia and see if they got New England in there. Go to. Pull up. Pull up a chat. Pull up OO in Wikipedia and see if they mention anything about New England. They will.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

I bet they don't.

[Chad Johnson]

I bet they do.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

I don't even know how to. I don't even know how to get on Wikipedia.

[Chad Johnson]

Don't worry about it. I'm going to get on there for you. I'm gonna get on there for. Oh, you might need to have him take that spouse thing off there, but that's neither here nor there right now.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

What did it say?

[Chad Johnson]

I ain't say nothing, but I'm saying, oh, he played football at Santa Monica.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

That's me. That's me. Oregon State. That's me.

[Chad Johnson]

Oregon State. Beaver. And he played for Cincinnati Bengals and the New England Patriots during his tenure playing in the NFL.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hold on, Nate. What about they ain't putting. I Played in Montreal, too.

[Chad Johnson]

Nope, they didn't put that up there.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

But I played in Mexico, too. They ain't put that.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, they did. They said he. Cincinnati being from 2001 to 2010. The Patriots, 2011. They got an asterisk by Miami, but Montreal alley west, 2014.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

And Del Monterey in 2017.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Ah, see? See, you know what? I have the greatest career of any. Any NFL player ever because I played in the States, I played in Canada, and I played in Mexico. Who else could say that? Yeah. Yeah. What are we talking about? Different.

[Chad Johnson]

Different member of. He was a member of the bingo's 40th anniversary and 50th anniversary teams.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

That's.

[Chad Johnson]

That's me.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Hey, I was good because you know how good you gotta. You know how good you got to be to play in the States. You could play in the NFL, play in Canada and Canada. Listen, I told you about my experience in Canada. Ain't no way in hell some of them fellas should be down there in Canada. What I think people look at the pay or the difference and think, oh, Canada's sweet, man. No, man.

[Chad Johnson]

What was that? Hey, Cam Lake. Didn't they have a. Miami had a guy that came out of Canada. Okay, yeah, see, that's just.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

That's just one. There. There are a few examples of people.

[Chad Johnson]

Doug Flutie.

[Freddy Prinze Jr.]

Oh, Doug Flutie. But it's so many more. The. The numbers, the politics, the opportunity. There are so many players in Canada like it. It almost irks my soul that they didn't get opportunity because there's no reason you should be here. Every week we play somebody different. I've seen maybe four or five guys. Why? Why are you here? What are you doing? But anyway, that's neither here nor there.

We're breaking down SummerSlam, the biggest party of the summer on Wrestling with Freddy. From our bold picks to storyline breakdowns, we will discuss who walks out with quick gold, who shocks the night and which matches steal the show we call the winners, the upsets and the chaos to expect. Plus whatever swerves nobody saw coming. Listen to Wrestling with Freddy as part of the Michael Tura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Chad Johnson]

Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.

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