Unc WARNS Caleb Williams of DRAMA + Brock Purdy gets PAID!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay – "Unc WARNS Caleb Williams of DRAMA + Brock Purdy gets PAID!"

Release Date: July 5, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media
Title: Unc WARNS Caleb Williams of DRAMA + Brock Purdy gets PAID!

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Introduction

In this electrifying episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe engages in a passionate and insightful discussion with Ocho Cinco, delving deep into the current landscape of NFL quarterbacks, team dynamics, and notable player contracts. Skipping the usual advertisements and intros, the conversation zeroes in on heated debates, player performances, and future prospects within the league.

Elite Quarterbacks: Defining the Best

The conversation begins with Shannon and Ocho Cinco dissecting the criteria that define an elite quarterback in today's NFL. Shannon asserts his belief in the top tier, naming Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson as the core of elite quarterbacks.

Notable Quote:

Shannon Sharpe [02:40]: "I'm unbiased normally or how it should be based off the season. And it should be Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, then Joe Burrow. Am I correct or am I wrong?"

However, Ocho challenges the inclusion of Jalen Hurts, sparking a debate on whether recent performance or overall skill set should take precedence over accolades like Super Bowl appearances.

Notable Quote:

Ocho Cinco [05:13]: "Because we take a guy, okay, Joe Flacco got a ring. So now people believe that Joe Flacco is a better quarterback than Josh Allen, than Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson or anybody."

The Impact of Team Systems on Quarterback Performance

A significant portion of the discussion centers on how different team systems influence a quarterback's success. Shannon emphasizes that Jalen Hurts thrives within the Eagles' system, suggesting that placing him in another team's setup would yield different results.

Notable Quote:

Shannon Sharpe [04:01]: "I'm unbiased normally or how it should be based off the season. ... And obviously people would be like, why would you put Joe at Joe 3rd? Because I'm a bad."

Ocho concurs, highlighting the detrimental effects of frequent coaching changes on young quarterbacks' development.

Notable Quote:

Ocho Cinco [48:15]: "Peyton Manning says he believes the teams fail young quarterbacks by constantly changing coaches and system."

Debating Quarterback Rankings: Tyreek Hill's List Under Scrutiny

The duo critiques Tyreek Hill's publicly released ranking of the top 10 quarterbacks, finding inconsistencies and biases, particularly the exclusion of Patrick Mahomes despite his stellar performance history.

Notable Quote:

Shannon Sharpe [43:15]: "I guarantee you this list isn't recent. ... But that was the second or the third time that it's happened."

They argue that Hill's list does not reflect the current season's performances and overlooks key quarterbacks who have consistently demonstrated elite play.

Brock Purdy’s Contract Extension: A Reward for Performance

Shannon and Ocho Cinco transition to discussing Brock Purdy's impressive contract extension with the 49ers. Brock secured a 5-year, $265 million deal, positioning him among the highest-paid quarterbacks in the league.

Notable Quote:

Ocho Cinco [49:55]: "And so, yeah, he did it, like, in September, so October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May, June, July."

Shannon defends the extension, emphasizing Purdy's contributions and the rationale behind rewarding players based on performance rather than mere potential.

Notable Quote:

Shannon Sharpe [53:26]: "He plays very well in that offense, in that. Shanahan. Yes. Very, very well."

Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears: High Hopes and Strategic Changes

A focal point of the episode is the analysis of Caleb Williams' potential impact on the Chicago Bears. Shannon expresses strong optimism about Williams’ development under coach Ben Johnson, highlighting the revamped offensive line and the addition of key players that could bolster the Bears’ performance.

Notable Quote:

Shannon Sharpe [30:53]: "I absolutely do expect big things from Caleb Williams because understanding how good he is already, tremendous athleticism."

Ocho discusses the strategic adjustments made by the Bears, such as changes in Williams’ stance and offensive strategies designed to enhance his quick game and overall efficiency.

Notable Quote:

Ocho Cinco [40:08]: "Ben Johnson said, I've done it a number of ways in my time in the league and really over the last few years I kind of gravitated towards that is something that I feel pretty strongly about."

Contracts and Salaries: The NFL's Pay Structure

The conversation shifts to the broader topic of quarterback salaries, with Ocho Cinco highlighting the disparities and negotiations surrounding top-tier quarterbacks. They compare Brock Purdy’s new contract with others in the league, discussing the financial implications and the value placed on elite performance.

Notable Quote:

Ocho Cinco [56:54]: "C.J. stroud up next. Yeah."

Shannon supports the notion that high salaries are justified for quarterbacks who consistently perform and lead their teams to success.

Notable Quote:

Shannon Sharpe [53:26]: "He plays very well in that offense, in that. Shanahan. Yes. Very, very well."

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with Shannon and Ocho Cinco reaffirming their beliefs in the importance of system stability for quarterback success and the necessity of rewarding player performance adequately. They express excitement for the upcoming NFL season, particularly regarding players like Caleb Williams and Brock Purdy, who are poised to make significant impacts on their teams.

Final Notable Quote:

Shannon Sharpe [57:00]: "But you got certain people that’s getting ready to overlap him and they ain't got no business. … You got to do it again. Probably sometime in the middle I bet they do something in the middle of the season. Watch."

Key Takeaways

• Elite Quarterbacks: There's ongoing debate about who truly deserves the elite status, with emphasis on both performance and system fit.
• Impact of Team Systems: The right team environment is crucial for a quarterback’s success, often outweighing individual talent.
• Contract Discussions: High-performing quarterbacks like Brock Purdy receive significant financial rewards, reflecting their value to the team.
• Future Prospects: Players like Caleb Williams show great promise, and strategic team adjustments could lead to successful seasons.
• Stability Over Quick Changes: Consistent coaching and system stability are vital for developing young quarterbacks and achieving long-term success.

Quotes with Timestamps:

• Shannon Sharpe [02:40]: "I'm unbiased normally or how it should be based off the season..."
• Ocho Cinco [05:13]: "Because we take a guy, okay, Joe Flacco got a ring..."
• Shannon Sharpe [43:15]: "I guarantee you this list isn't recent..."
• Ocho Cinco [49:55]: "And so, yeah, he did it, like, in September..."
• Shannon Sharpe [30:53]: "I absolutely do expect big things from Caleb Williams..."
• Ocho Cinco [40:08]: "Ben Johnson said, I've done it a number of ways..."
• Shannon Sharpe [53:26]: "He plays very well in that offense, in that. Shanahan..."
• Shannon Sharpe [57:00]: "But you got certain people that’s getting ready to overlap him..."

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Note: This summary focuses solely on the core content between Shannon Sharpe and Ocho Cinco, excluding advertisements and introductory/outro segments to provide a comprehensive overview for listeners who might not be familiar with the episode.

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Go to the top four guys. You know what I'm saying?

[Ocho Cinco]

I'm a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's how I do elites. And like elite for me in the quarterback world is Joe Burrow, Mahomes.

[Ocho Cinco]

Dang, Lamar.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Josh Allen. I'm the elites. They got their own. You know what I'm saying?

[Ocho Cinco]

You putting Joe, you putting Hurts now in that group.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is funny now. I just, I just talked about this on. On first take. You know, when I, When I did my. I didn't say elite. Just the best quarterbacks right now in the NFL. I. I went Patrick Mahomes.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then I went Jalen Hurts simply because he just kept being. Just coming off a Super bowl. In my third, I would. I put Joe and I saw people upset about that. I'm basing it off the season that we just. That that was just played. And obviously people would be like, why would you put. Why would you put Joe at Joe 3rd? Because I'm a bad. Let me ask you this.

[Ocho Cinco]

Go ahead. I want to hear. I want to hear what you got to say with this one. Go ahead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm unbiased normally or how it should be based off the season. And it should be Patrick Mahomes, Jalen hurts, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, then Joe Burrow. Am I correct or am I wrong?

[Ocho Cinco]

I think. I think he's looking at it like this, right? If I took Josh Allen and put it with the Eagles, are they worse than they are with Jalen Hurts, they're better. If I take Joe Burrow and put it with the Eagles, if I put Joe Burrow, are they better or worse? If I put Lamar Jackson, I gave him the exact same team. He has Saquon, he has that defense. He has those receivers. If I put Patrick Mahomes, they got that same running back. They got that same receiver. They say at that same defense. Now I take Jalen Hurts and I put the. I put him in any of those Other guys system. What you thinking?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It'd be completely different. It'd be different because in those other systems, those guys are asked to do things that Jalen Hurst doesn't have to do with. The Eagles.

[Ocho Cinco]

Agree. The problem is, Ocho, is that the ring culture has ruined it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

Because we take a guy, okay, Joe Flacco got a ring. So now people believe that Joe Flacco is a better quarterback than Josh Allen, than Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson or anybody. That. And I just don't believe that. I mean, I don't believe Nick Foley. Nick Foles is a Super bowl mvp. Nick Foles isn't a better quarterback than Lamar. He's not. He's not a better quarterback than Joe Burr. He's not a better quarterback than Josh Allen. He's not. He's not a better quarterback than Dan Marino. He's not. But because we've equated rings best.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, not the way it goes.

[Ocho Cinco]

I. I don't. That's not how I do it. I don't. Now, if you're talking about now, when we're talking about great, I believe you can be great without having a ring. Where rings come into effect, Ocho is when you're talking about est greatest. But it's not the end all be all. Because now you have to add other things. All NBA, All Pro, All Star, Pro Bowl. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Things of that nature. Offensive player of the year, definitely. Defensive player of the year. Things of that nature. Did you play? How did you play? How long did you play and how great were you? I mean, look, it's hard to take a situation like, guy was great from start to finish. Tom Brady was not great his first year. Peyton Manning was not great his first year. But boy, those years in between, between the first and the last on show, they tore a lot of people ass up. So that. That's just me. Look, everybody, Everybody has. Everybody has their opinion on how they judge greatness. Ocho, this is so subjective. That's your opinion. I look at it one way. That's just me. Dare slay. Also named Reed Blankenship as the natural leader of the secondary. Should slay the part. Reed being around me and a lot of veterans before, I'm sure he can lead that group the right way. That's who I feel would be leading the group. If it ain't in the building. He's a great damn leader. CJ Gardner Johnson saw this, responded Vet's presence is always needed. Don't get me wrong. But bro, what Vet is needed when young guys can hold their own. C Coupe, you got a crazy duo. And Reed and me and supporting cast. Ringo, Zah, Dre, Sam, Eli, Sydney, Tristan. Stay with the youth. You ask me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I kind of agree. A veteran presence is always good to have, especially in certain circumstances. Having that experience is a good thing. I think it's a good thing. And it's one way for the young. For the young bucks to learn.

[Ocho Cinco]

I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't see it as a bad thing at all. Are they arguing going back and forth on Twitter?

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, I think he. I think he said that. I think CJ thought Slay would say he should be the beautiful. I ain't getting that. Hey, last vet that replaced me helped y' all get to the door in the wild card round. Remember that if we need a vet that played a lot to help us, she didn't learn from the last mistake. Not a crash out. Just keeping it real. He felt some type of way because Slay didn't say he should. Oh, yo. Bruce Aryan, regarded as the quarterback whisperer, spoke about Anthony Richardson. He said, Anthony, I think, needed two more years in college as a passer. I didn't see him as being able to beat anybody in two minute and third down. If you can't do that in the NFL, you're just an average guy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's right. He's right. I have.

[Ocho Cinco]

You got it. You got third, Ocho, you make your.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Money on third down every time. Listen, you hope. You hope to make your hay on first to make second and third a little easier.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you don't, the better the passer you are, the more easy it is. Convert those third downs. Now, obviously, I think the repetitions, obviously being in college would have helped him tremendously. If you look at the numbers, I don't have the numbers in front of me, so I don't want to state and be and be and be wrong, but statistically. But he didn't play that many games in college. Huh?

[Ocho Cinco]

That's why he said he should. And he wasn't. He wasn't a high completion percentage guy in college, so we're not playing a whole lot. And I get why he came out. Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

The guy, the top five pick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

He got 20 plus $25 million, probably fully guaranteed. They ain't paying that in nil and collective. So I get why, right? I get why. You get why his family gets why. Because at the end of the day, why are we doing this, Ocho? We're trying to Set our families up. That's how we. That's how. I'm not saying. Oh, let me take that back, Ocho. There's no such thing as all of every. But a lot of us, what we do this for is for our family. We're trying to get to the bag as soon as we possibly can because everybody didn't grow up like a Grant Hill that had a two parent or the Mannings or the Watts. So we grew up in a situation a lot of times his grandma, a lot of times his mom and we trying to get there to get them out of that situation. So I get why he did it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ocho Cinco]

But what Bruce has said, and I totally agree, he could have gotten a lot more by staying and getting better at his craft. But at the end of the day, in the two minute drill and on third down is as a quarterback where you make your money, you got to have it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to have it.

[Ocho Cinco]

But.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But un. Who's to say there a lot. There a lot of quarterbacks in NFL that have made it, that have stayed for four years, that have been there for a long time that struck in those same situations and converting third downs. So just.

[Ocho Cinco]

His big message is o, O Two minute drill, third down. If you can't do that, you're average. So he's not saying that he believed that he would have been better. Look at BA's record. Peyton Manning, Andrew, look, he worked with Big Ben Roethlisberger. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Had all those guys in the early stages he worked with. He had Carson. If I'm not. I think he had Carson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

In Arizona, didn't he?

[Shannon Sharpe]

In Arizona? Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

Okay, so he knows something about the quarterback position. I like ba. BA gonna tell you like it is. It ain't no sugarcoat with BA now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

If it comes up, it's coming out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. It was also one of the issues then over there in Tampa now, remember?

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why they send his ass upstairs.

[Ocho Cinco]

Absolutely. So I believe. Because here's the thing, ocho, he's a 50. He was a 50, maybe a 50 completion guy in college. If you're 50 in college.

[Shannon Sharpe]

50.

[Ocho Cinco]

He's 46. Put it like this here. He had a worse completion percentage than tebow in the NFL. And you know, Tebow was 47%. It was worse than Tebow's. So you're not going to be successful, Ocho, with the way the field is spaced now, the way they protect the quarterback, the way they protect the receiver.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ocho Cinco]

Everybody should be completing 60%.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah, actually you should. Because to me, I'm not saying the game is easy, but they made the offensive game much easier.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yes. And so that's why the quarter, the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Way defenders and defense are handicapped.

[Ocho Cinco]

So now it used to be, if you completed in the high 50s, boy, you had a hell of a season.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

90S when I got to the league. And even before Ocho, if you threw for 3,000 yards was the standard. If you threw for 3,000 yards because everybody ran the football. That's why many believe Dan Marino still has the greatest statistical passing season. Even though they passed him for yards, they passed him for touchdowns. He threw for four for 5,000 yards and 48 touchdown in that era.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The running era. Yeah, yeah, Duper, Duper. And Clayton was eating.

[Ocho Cinco]

Boy, boy, did you know what they did? Look, I came in, when they knocked your ass off. There was no part of the quarterback that was off limits. The only thing, you couldn't hit him at the bottom of his feet. And that's cause he was standing on him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Other than that, everything was a green.

[Ocho Cinco]

Light from the top of the head to the top of your feet. You remember I sent you that clip what Charles Martin did to Jim McMahon? Oh, yeah. He was just standing there and he looked around like, oh, I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, that was commonplace. Go back and look. Bruce Smith jumps off sides. That's what they call unavated to the quarterback. Bruce jumped off, slides, knocked Boomer S and out the game for like weeks. Not to just the game for weeks. It was, it was anything goes anything. And so they made it easier so for a quarterback to be in the 40s, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lord, hold it, man.

[Ocho Cinco]

That's. It's Oo. He's got to get up to the mid-50s. He's got to get it up to the mid-50s. Oo, I have a question. Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Single quarterback struggling. They have a high percentage or high completion percentage. Do you think this because of his supporting the cast around him is not good enough?

[Ocho Cinco]

Man, he got some. Hey, you see what he got them receivers? He got. He got Jonathan Taylor in the back. We didn't forgot to mention Jonathan Taylor. We didn't mention him on show.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And honestly, having Jonathan Taylor back there, it should make anything having to do with the passing game that much effing easier.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause I know they got. I know they got to say, I know they got a safety in the box.

[Ocho Cinco]

Absolutely, absolutely. And you got Pittman. They got Pittman. They got another receiver too. That's really good. They got. I forget his name though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, number 10. Number 10.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yes. Yes. Oh, my God.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Chad.

[Ocho Cinco]

Who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, hey, I apologize. I apologize for the disrespect, but young bull, Whoever wears number 10. I forget your name, boy. I'm telling you here, out of my mouth, boy. You is the real deal, boy. You the real deal. And I apologize if I remember your name, boy. Young boy. You the real deal, boy. Oh, yeah, what's his last name? Uncle.

[Ocho Cinco]

Okay. Oh, they got Michael Pittman Jr. What's that? What's that got? What's the other receiver? Alex Pierce. Alex Pierce.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's number 10. Name?

[Ocho Cinco]

Alex Downs. They got Josh Downs, Alec Pierce, Michael Pittman Jr. I think the tight end is Mo. Ali Cox. And they got Jonathan Taylor and they had a. Braden Smith took some time away. He was dealing with some. Dealing with some things. They got a nice offensive line. Yeah, there's. There's no reason. There's none right for him to be completing less than 50% of his passes because he missed a lot of throws, Ocho. And I say, bro, you don't have to throw everything through the eye of a hurricane.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gotta touch. You gotta touch. You gotta have. You gotta have some finesse to your game. You gotta have some finesse. I'm trying to think what quarterback is labeled. Of hang. Having a very.

[Ocho Cinco]

Mitchell. Mitchell is number 10. Oo. Mitchell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, what, you don't know his first name?

[Ocho Cinco]

Adam Mitchell. Yeah. Whatever it is, he could cook.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, he be cooking. Hey, brother M. Brother Mitchell, I apologize. I will never forget your name again. But I'mma tell you one thing, they.

[Ocho Cinco]

Got some nice receivers over there. Oo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm talking about. Nice, nice. And I was.

[Ocho Cinco]

No reason for him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mitchell has a bigger role coming this season.

[Ocho Cinco]

There's no reason for him to be completing 46% of his passes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

With that type of receiving core, that offensive line, and with Jonathan Taylor in your backfield.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, listen, he might be better this year. You never know. You have a whole off season to work on things. Work on the things you need to work on going into having another mini camp, another training camp up under your belt, you know, familiarity with the system you're in. I think I. I think. And hoping. Hoping this year he got to put the time in. Yeah, you got to. I'm hoping he plays with a lot more confidence and he'll be fine.

[Ocho Cinco]

Got to put it. You got to put the time in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

Got to put the time in. And if he does that, remember we had. We had Pittman on. Yeah. Who else? We. We talked to some people like, hey, Bro, he, he. He can't be the first. You can't be the, the last one in and the first one to leave. It's got to be the ver. It's got to be first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

First. The first one in. The last one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The last one to leave.

[Ocho Cinco]

Not the last first, first, last. Right. But hopefully he gets it figured out because like I said, I think they got. Look, that's a very competitive division. You got Houston, C.J. stroud, Houston, go be got Lawrence. You about to have Cam Ward in that division. Because look, if you go back and study it, Ocho, look at it. It's a quarterback league. Yeah. Look at the NFC East. Oh, look at, look at the afc. Look at the AFC west, what they have in the West. Look at these division. That'll tell you who's winning it. Yeah, yeah, quarterbacks. Because that's what you got to compete against. I know they're not on the field at the same time, but you have to match him. You can't like, oh, our defense gonna hold him. If I throw for 170 yards, we're gonna. No, you might win one or two games like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

But you're gonna have to match that production every time. So hopefully, hopefully AR gets this thing figured out and get this thing turned around.

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Joe, this is now we. We in your realm. Lamar Jackson is now the only AFC starting quarterback without a Super bowl appearance. AFC North? Yeah. Aaron Rodgers. He beat the Steelers in Super Bowl 35. Well, I know I'm saying, but he beat the Steelers, so he's been the one. Joe Burrow's been the one. We know Flacco's been the one. Lamar Jackson has not. Is will this be the season that Lamar Jackson gets to a Super Bowl? You know what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know if it's going to be the season, but he will get there before he's done playing. I know that much. That AFC north is so unpredictable, especially with. With. With the Bengals. I'm not sure how they will start off this season. You can kind of count. You can kind of count the Ravens and Ravens and being in every. Every season as long as Lamar Jackson is there, regardless of what pieces he has around him, him alone can get them to the playoffs. By. By himself and then support gas has always, always been phenomenal and. But you always know Lamar Jackson is going to give you this. It's like when you Giannis play un. Like you said, he gonna 30 and you watch SGA play, he gonna give you that 30. That's the same way Lamar Jackson is. That's why he gets paid the, the big bucks. As far as the super bowl is concerned, I'm not sure if it will be this year, but if it is this year, it will be because they go to in the playoff games each week and they have no effing turnovers, no turn. That's the only reason that kept them.

[Ocho Cinco]

Out because they went like nine weeks in the regular season and have a turnover. Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. And you get to the biggest game where it matters most and you turn it over twice and then you still almost had an opportunity to come back and win. But that's what it comes down to, you know. So I'm excited for him even, even as a Bengal man, I'm, I'm excited for Lamar in general, you know, to take my, my Bengal Bengal stardom. You know, I can put that aside and actually root for the young bull man to want to see him do well.

[Ocho Cinco]

You mean fandom and. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my bad. I'm in fandom. Yeah, you know, we know what you mean.

[Ocho Cinco]

That's Ocho. That's Ocho talking. Y' all leave a. Give a break. That's Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I just, I just, I would love, I would just want to see him do well.

[Ocho Cinco]

Joe, what you think this the year? I. I think so. You know, they, they, they went on a great run, I thought this past NFL season and for me I feel like they got everything in their toolbox as far as defense, offensively, they're high power offensive machine and I can see it happening. I can see it happening. You just need to get the one Ocho. That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Get that monkey off your back.

[Ocho Cinco]

I mean he's too good. I mean he's too good. I mean look, he could easily be a three time league mvp. Ocho. Yeah, yeah. He's got two.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They cheated him.

[Ocho Cinco]

Look this, I think this was like the second or third time this ever happened a guy. Because normally the guy that the quarterback that goes to the, that is the all Pro, he Normally wins the MVP. 87. It happened with Joe Montana. Joe Montana was the first team all pro quarterback John Elway won the MVP. Did it happen another year? I think it happened two or three times. This was, this was the second or the third time that it's happened. I know it happened in 87. 87 was the strike year. I was. That was my sophomore year in college. I remember that. So you saying he just need to get there. If he get there and play well, you know, we like. Well, you know what? Damn. Ain't nothing else he could do. It's kind of like Tom. When Tom lost to, when he lost to the Eagles, he threw for 500 yards. Yeah. They was like. Well, he didn't stop anybody. He just needs, he needs to get there. I let him get there. Then I worry about whether he plays well or not. I just want him to get there. That's all I want. I just want to. I don't want. I want to see him on that big stage. That's a hell of a division in. That's a gauntlet, boy. You gotta. Yeah, yeah. And you, and you think about it. You still got. Look, because you at afc, you got Joe Burrow and you got him in the same division. Yeah. You still got my homeboy and you got Josh Allen and then now you got Aaron Rodgers in there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't know what Aaron Rodgers you can get. You ain't gonna get Aaron Rodgers of old, but you're gonna get glimpses and, and hot flashes of what he used to.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that is just enough to get him still his fan steal. His fans hope and organization in general, which is why they waited on his ass.

[Ocho Cinco]

Four time Pro bowl running back Nick Chubb is expected to sign a one year deal with the Houston Texans. The signing is contingent on Chub passing a physical. The former Cleveland Brown running back would join the Texas running rushing attack led by Pro Bowl Russia Joe Mixon, Damien pierce, dumbw. And 4th round pick woody marks out of USC. Oo you like this?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I mean yeah, I do. I like it. I like it. I mean I'm not. Does it take away some of, some of the carries away from, from Joe? I'm not, I'm not sure how that's, how that's going to work. I'm sure they'll find a way. They'll find a way to make it work. I, I don't, I don't think with Joe being a, a number one running back and bringing in another one number.

[Ocho Cinco]

I mean you look, you still got Damian Pierce there. You got a gumbawale. Yeah. Fourth round picking Woody Marks. There ain't no guarantee you gonna make the team. Ocho, Mick. Chub.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, stop playing, man. Come on now, don't do that what you mean, no guarantee? Hey, I just seen score. I just seen Chubb squatting £750 last.

[Ocho Cinco]

Year, Power lifting meat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, listen, he's a power runner, and he always has been. Ain't nothing pretty about him. Hey, when you look at Nick Chubb, when you walking dress, you know, in the locker room where they had the. They had a little mannequin on the.

[Ocho Cinco]

Wall with all them pads, that's just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you run the ball. Hey, but listen, listen. He's. He's a downhill runner, man. He's really good. He relies on his offensive line, you know, to get him going. And I, I. I don't know. I, I just. I just. I don't really. I don't like that move of having two number ones or two really, really good running backs on the team like that. I mean, it, it's. It's similar, but it's two of the same type of backs. I can see if you had something like a Jer Gibbs and the David Montgomery, but you got two. Two of the same things in the backfield. Really. Or maybe I could be wrong.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, maybe I could be wrong. Mixing catches the ball a little more. He's a little more shifty. He's not the kind. He's not the. Really the same type of. Joe Mixon is kind of more like a Damon Pierce. He more of a power run. I don't really know Woody Marks, so I don't really know a whole lot about him, so I can't speak to that. But, But Joe got a little bit more wiggle, a little bit more twitch to it than, Than the chub. Chubby is all power. When you, when you squatting 600, 700 pounds. You. You a power runner?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I mean, hell, I would do. I was doing that in high school. I mean, so. Damn.

[Ocho Cinco]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a nice little combo back there, though. Nice.

[Ocho Cinco]

Big fella. Ocho still ain't pay me my money, Titus. What you talk about that, man? When I get back. When I get back to Atlanta, I got. I'm gonna put my big boy on the screen. They look exactly alike, that black mask. Yeah, Black mask with that. With that tan coat. Exactly alike.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joe. Where you at, Joe?

[Ocho Cinco]

I'm in Detroit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Ocho Cinco]

We, We. We got. I'm out here with my big three team, Detroit Amps. We're doing a little mini training camp before we take off to Chicago this, this upcoming weekend and playing our first game, so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Ocho Cinco]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. It's on tv.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, yeah. It's gonna be on cbs, baby. You already know prime time. Stop playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, y' all got money. But I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be tuned in now.

[Ocho Cinco]

Come on now. Come on now. Yeah. Chicago Bears head coach Ben Johnson is already tweaking Caleb Williams mechanic issues. The second year quarterback has adjusted his stance and his keep his left foot forward before the snap. Ben Johnson said, I've done it a number of ways in my time in the league and really over the last few years I kind of gravitated towards that is something that I feel pretty strongly about. He and I talked about it, the reason why we want to do it. I think it helps out certainly with the quick game from the gun and it helps us being a little bit better of throwing a posture for like a lot of other things that we're asking him to do. Ojo, do you like this and do you expect big things from Caleb Williams in 2025?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I absolutely do expect big things from Caleb Williams because understanding how good he is already, tremendous, tremendous athleticism. He has a very strong arm and he's a dual quarterback. With the addition of Ben Johnson and the creativity that he's able to bring to that offense and with what Caleb can do, I think it's going to be that much better for them offensively. I'm excited, I'm excited for him. The, the little twists and nuances that, that he's, that he's changing in, in Caleb's game is really interesting. Probably allowing Caleb to get to it, get to and drops a little faster, being able to process information, especially in the quick game. And I think it's going to help him in the long run. People that might not like Caleb Williams for personal reasons based on what he likes to do and enjoy off the field. I think.

[Ocho Cinco]

No, I think, I think it's because of what he said how and his dad said they didn't want to go to Chicago. I think people are still holding that against him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, well, that, that just came out before they even came out. Just some of the things he did when it was at USC and some of the, you know, the painting. They, they. I mean listen, just personal stuff like that, outside of what just came out, I think they're going to be all right. I think they're going to be all right simply because of not only the supporting Cassie has around, but getting a coach, a winning coach like Ben Johnson there is going to, it's going to do wonders for him.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hell, if it's going to help us win more games, hell, I pay for him to Get a painting. I pay for him to get a manicure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ocho Cinco]

All I'm trying to do is win game out, man. I don't care about what somebody else do. They got nothing to do with me. Ocho, him painting his nail, painting his toenails. Yeah, he want to dye his hair pink, green, blue, have a blonde street. I don't give a d you a football player. You're the quarterback of this team. Distribute the football.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it.

[Ocho Cinco]

You have more positive than negative and we good. All that other stuff, man, I'm telling you, guys don't care. Guys want to win. So what somebody do in their spare.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Time, that's on them.

[Ocho Cinco]

But I mean that made my hands.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why I care you right.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hey, just be a good teammate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it.

[Ocho Cinco]

Let's come in here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, it worked.

[Ocho Cinco]

Where you from, what you did? Okay. That's why it's so hard to win a championship in football because you got so many guys from so many different backgrounds and you asking them to do one thing, come together and make a fabulous dish. That's. That's what you're asking. But I think Caleb. I think Caleb is going to be do really well. They revamped his offensive line. They signed Joe Dooney. They got the guy from. They got a guy from the center from the Falcons. I think they got offensive lineman from the Chargers. They've done a great job. You know, Roma Doomsday DJ Moore, they got the tight end drafted him first in the first round from Michigan. Pairing with Cole commit. They got a nice running game. Like defensively they're going to be. They're going to be good. Offensively they're going to be much better. So with the offense being much better, I think, you know, you take some of the pressure off the defense and the best one. Sometimes the best way to help a defense that's not very good is to keep their ass off the field. Offense, you stay on the field for an extended period of time and we don't let them get on the field because bad things happen when they get on the field. But I think Caleb Williams is going to be really, really good this year. I think Ben Johnson. Go ahead Osho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I'm giving you say he's going to take a huge leap.

[Ocho Cinco]

I think so too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huge leap and going to surprise a lot of people every year there's always a team and to me I think the Bears might be that team every year. The same teams are always in contention. Always in contention. I understand the division they playing packers, you know, I understand Packers, Lions and the bikes. I, I understand that. But I think they're going to be that team that takes that leap this year that surprises everybody.

[Ocho Cinco]

I think the thing is Ocho, they're going to have to in order for them to make the playoffs. You got the Lions, you got the packers, you got the Vikes. The Lions what, lost what, one game, maybe two games. The Vikings lost what, two games, maybe three games. The packers were 10 and 7. So you're looking to probably have to go 10 and 7, 11 and 6 just to make the playoffs. The Lions might take a step back, but from the offensive play calling situation, but I think they're going to be just as Good. Are they 15? Are they going to be 15 and 2? Maybe not, maybe not. But it's hard for see them stepping off a cliff and all of a sudden they win 15 games and drop down to 10. I think they get some of those guys on the defensive side back healthy offensively, they still gonna be able to put up points. Jameer Gibbs is special. Armin Ross, St. Brown, Jameson Williams.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That goddamn Brian, that Brian Branch, bro. Hey, he is the real deal.

[Ocho Cinco]

They got Jo Joseph that, like I said, they just need to get some of those guys that was injured last year, get those guys back healthy. Those guys back healthy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

80 Hudson is coming back.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hutchinson, I just read, I think he's, he's been cleared. He's a full goal now. I think the big d tackle of McNeil, I think he got injured. He should be able to go. One of the linebackers got injured, he should be able to go. You know, they had a lot of guys on the injured reserve last year. You know, we're not going to make an excuse to give Washington credit. Washington went in there, took it to him, they scored. They did a great job of taking the ball away from Jared Goff. The one thing that, you know, we know about golf, he has the ability to throw you five touchdowns, but he can throw five interceptions to. And you know, he had, he picked the worst time to have probably his worst game. His second worst game of the season. Yeah, the worst game was when he had in Houston. He threw five picks and they still won the game. Yeah, but this one, those turnovers, they didn't win the game. And so. Yeah, but I definitely think Caleb Williams going to have to take a huge step forward. I think he's going to take a huge step forward. You talk about a guy to have great improvisational skill arm, arm slots in which he can throw the ball from the 3/4 the side to over the top. He can get the ball that quick and you know, he's changing his motion because sometimes we just want to. Hey, hey. Just up and throw the football.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

Basically get a grip and let it grip. So I, I'm. I'm anxious to see. I, I want him to do extremely well. I don't have a problem with what his dad did. His dad tried to put him in the best situation possible. He didn't think Chicago was the best situation possible. But I think Caleb realized that they're in a great situation. He had a great offensive mind coming in, a great head coach that's going to be working lockstep with him. He can't ask for anything more than that. Ocho. Just an opportunity to get coached really, really well, really good players around him. Now you just go do your job. I believe that's what he's going to do. I believe. I absolutely believe that's what he's going to do. You don't have the kind of production that he had at usc and you saw the flashes. You saw the flashes last year of what he can be. As a matter of fact, on Thanksgiving, they was down real bad now, you know, situation. There was some miscommunication about do we spike the ball or they let a lot of time run off it and stuff like that. And he ended up getting sacked. But a lot of stuff that you chalk up as a rookie and. But I don't think you see. I don't think we see those same mistakes this year. I'm excited to see what. What the future holds for this young man because I think he can be special. He's going to have to be because look at the quarterbacks in that division. Look at the teams in that division. And I'm sure Bear fans like, man, I want to make the playoffs. I want a chance to compete for a Super Bowl. And I believe he gives them the opportunity. We'll see what they're going to be overall as a team, especially when it comes to the defensive side because we see the improvement from a head coach standpoint from the offensive line. What they redone re redone that. Now it's going to come down to defensively. Are they going to be able to stop people? They got some good players back there. So I'm anxious to see what the Bears can do on this one. It's going to be a Bears go, hey, I think they're going to surprise some people. O Joe. I think they're going to put some points on the board. I think they're going to really surprise some people.

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[Ocho Cinco]

Ocho, check this out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Talk to me.

[Ocho Cinco]

Tyreek Hill released his rank of the top 10 quarterbacks this season. It's on your screen. He got two of number one, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, three Dak Prescott, four Jerry Goff five. Brock Purdy, six. Jayla Hurts, seven. Kirk Cousins, eight. Jay Daniels, nine. Bo Nicks, ten.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Now, what we need to talk about. Before you say anything, Tyree, when did you make this list? Because I see Kirk Cousins on there and I'm not sure at what point you made this list, but it couldn't have been just now or recently. It couldn't have been. This must be.

[Ocho Cinco]

I disregard everything he said because he got his quarterback to one. Let me ask you a question. If you got the number one quarterback in NFL, you trying to get up out of there?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, he ain't going nowhere.

[Ocho Cinco]

But do you say that? No. No. Okay, then. So that lets you know right there if quarterback ain't number one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now let's, let's understand and remember his frustrations about doing cardio for three quarters and understand why he said that. And they put a camera in front of his face before he could calm down. Remember when we go to the rookie symposium? What the first they tell you, if you're angry, don't go to the media, calm yourself down, take a deep breath. But no, soon as the game ends, camera right in his face, he's still upset. What does he say? He answers emotionally and says things he shouldn't say. Does he actually mean it? At that time? Probably. But once he comes down and gets back in his right state of mind. God damn it. I shouldn't have said that.

[Ocho Cinco]

Because the mere fact that even if you ate. The mere fact. I'm talking about how bad. Even though when, when, when. And we're gonna talk about this even when, when Trav wasn't getting targets. You think Travis want to leave Patrick Mahomes? Nah. Now, I, I. The mere fact that he got one omission on that. I don't see the guy. Now, this guy, in, in the last four years, five years, he's won three Super Bowls, three Super Bowl MVPs and two MVPs and he ain't on this list. And you mean to tell me you thought Kirk Cousins, you thought Bart Purdy, you thought Dak Prescott, you thought Tua had a better season and he had a bad season based on who he is, and you think those guys had a better season than him?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, and that's what I'm talking about. Huh? I guarantee you this list isn't recent. I guarantee you it's not. I guarantee you it's not. You know, I mean.

[Ocho Cinco]

We pulled it up from three years ago.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right, But I'm just saying. Unless this list was made to do. Exactly.

[Ocho Cinco]

Bo Nix is on the list. Bo Nicks just got into the league this year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but listen, that's.

[Ocho Cinco]

Jay Daniel just got into the league this year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He made this list for. For this very specific reason for us to be talking and engaging about his list. About said list.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like it. I like it. I like. Listen, I like everybody. I like everybody on there. I don't. I don't like. I don't like the Kirk Cousins. I like the Kirk Cousins.

[Ocho Cinco]

Based on the way you like Dak Prescott. The guy missed 10 games.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, like that. What you talking about? I'm not worried about him. I'm not talking about him missing the game. I like that. We talk about body of work. We talk about resume. Now, what body. Hey, don't, don't. Listen, don't, don't, just don't. Don't, just don't. Don't disrespect Dak like that. Don't do that.

[Ocho Cinco]

Hold on. He ain't got your guy. Hold on. You've been on me all year long about Joe Burrow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you know. You know, Rick ain't no Bengals fan. He don't. He don't even watch us.

[Ocho Cinco]

He ain't no fan of nobody. He should be a fan of. He should have. He should have a. A tour. And Snoop should have been number two. Wait, who the backup quarterback? Huntley, you been. You like. You been. Oh, you need to stall like Joe. He ain't got Joe on there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, because that. This is his own personal preference on who he feels. We can't. We can't fault a man for putting up his preference on his opinion on who his top 10 is. Now, if we talk about quarterbacks, I. Our top 10 different.

[Ocho Cinco]

His list. The moment he said Tua was better than Mahomes, we should have disregard everything. When it comes to quarterback, that come out of his mouth.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it's null and void after that, huh?

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. Yes. Because that's so egregious, Ocho. Two of. Two of mom and dad won't say two are better than my homeboy. You won't find nobody in Miami. Put it like this here. If your fan base would trade your quarterback for Mahomes, Lamar Baltimore, A trading Josh Allen, but everybody else on this list, I guarantee you they would trade their quarterback for Mahomes. You think Dallas would take Mahomes over Dak? You think Atlanta would take him over Kirk Cousins? Philly would take him. Would take Mahomes over Jalen Hurts. San Fran would absolutely take him over. Over Brock Purdy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ocho Cinco]

Detroit would absolutely take him. Oh, I got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got one for you. Who will the Commanders take him over? Jaden Daniels. Yeah, go ahead. Think about that. What?

[Ocho Cinco]

I would. Yeah. Hell yeah. The only. The only two. Well, only one, Lamar, because now, because here's the thing, you would have to run the offense. See, the thing is Josh Dak, that's a drop back. Jared Goff, drop back. Jaylah Hurts, he runs a very similar west coast style system to what they run in San Francisco to what they run in Atlanta. So there ain't gonna be a whole lot. Ain't gonna be a whole lot of drop off. Can you imagine my homeboy with Saquon behind him and AJ And Devontae. You remember when he had Tyreek and Sammy Watkins, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They were eating.

[Ocho Cinco]

Okay. Okay. Can you imagine if he had Jalen Waddle, Tyreek Hill, John New Smith and. And hn?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's nasty. Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

I don't see no Mahomes. I don't see no Joe Burrow. And you got some guys on there, Reek. We wish you well. Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

Peyton Manning says he believes the teams fail young quarterbacks by constantly changing coaches and system. It bothers me that Bryce Young is on his third play caller in two seasons. If you draft a guy, commit to a system, learning an offense is like learning a new language. It's not fair. I agree.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, most definitely. But listen, you got to understand, the owners are impatient. Yes, are extremely impatient. Because they're thinking every time we get a player, first round pick, we have to miraculously win right away all of a sudden. And that's not the way it works.

[Ocho Cinco]

Well, Jay Daniels and CJ Stroud mess it up though. Cause you see guys, you see what happened on Joe. So everybody think. Everybody thinks that that's. It's supposed to happen like that, but that's few and far between. Peyton didn't go. Elway didn't make it his rookie. They're like, you go back and look at some of the greats and see their rookie season did not make the playoffs and they did not look good. Everybody's not gonna look like a Jane Daniels. Everybody's not gonna look like a CJ Stroud or an Andrew look or an RG3. And you know, Baker played really well. His friend or. Or Justin Herbert threw 30 plus touchdowns. Everybody, every rookie is not gonna look like that. We've got to stop thinking, Ocho, that everybody that comes out is ready made. Sometimes it's like a kid's toy. Some assembly is required. Everybody just wanted to open the package and just get. Get the toy and just go. Just get it in there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. It don't work like that. Oh, damn. And sometimes we are spoiled by quarterback play that is extravagant in their. Yes, TJ Stroud.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

People turn the franchise around one season. Jay Daniels turned the franchise around after 30, 33 abysmal years in one season.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Quarterbacks like that come around every so often.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then also the other pieces to the puzzle got to be there, too. It already had a solid foundation. All you needed was that centerpiece to smooth out the concrete. That's why it looks the way it does.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yes. But. But see, here's the thing. When you come from the business world, Ocho, you can change a CEO and he might have an idea that, like, boom. Or okay, you know what, Ocho, you know what? Instead of the. The ipod, what if I do earbuds? What if I do. What if I do a tablet? What if I do iPad? So I can do things. I can have a create. But as a quarterback, you keep changing. You keep changing the play callers. He's learning an entirely different system every off season. How you expect that, man, look at it. Look at the continuity. Even. Even when Brady was losing coordinators, they was running the exact same plays. That was the same offense. That was the same offense Brett Favre lost coordinators. That was the same offense. That was the same. You got to have continuity. He needs to hear that. It might be a different voice, but he needs that verbiage to be the same. Yeah, you can put your spin on it, but that was Charlie Weiss offense that Bill O' Brien and Josh McDaniels. And then Josh McDaniels came and ran and then for some reason, Coach Belichick put two slappies in there that didn't know, you know, didn't know anything about offensive football. And it messed it up. But Peyton is absolutely right. But the biggest Mistake is that you judge, man. Hey man, you see how, you see how his old lady treat him? Well, I ain't got his old lady.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ocho Cinco]

I got you. So I need to try to make this work with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ocho Cinco]

And I can't judge my relationship of what they doing over there. I don't know what he doing. He might be breaking on hitting up with that Louisville Slugger. Hey, you know what I'm saying? Oh, joke. You got a number two pencil and so you can't do the damage that he doing. No, I'm just saying I, I agree with Peyton 1000%. You know, kind of had a conversation with him about that. Is that the, the everybody is so quick because they want instantaneous results, instant.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gratification and it doesn't.

[Ocho Cinco]

It's the lottery. Ocho. Ocho. Damn. Getting up and go to work. Let me go buy the lottery ticket and hit it and hope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it don't work like that.

[Ocho Cinco]

That lottery microwave society put everything in the microwave. It'll cook it in two minutes. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And if you do, if you do, anytime you have. Instant gratification is always short lived.

[Ocho Cinco]

49Ers and Brock Purdy have agreed to terms on a 5 year 265 million dollar contract extension including 181 million in total guarantees. Highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL. Based on a year to year basis. Dak Prescott at 60 million. Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence at 55 million. Tua at 53.1. Brock Purdy, 53, Jared Goff. That's a good number.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right where they have, right where they have him. Slotted is a good number for him.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, I mean you go Ocho, you gotta think about it. The man made 2.9 million over the first three years of his career. Now he'll get a check every, every week for 2.9 million.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, he, he deserved it. Well deserved, well deserved. I didn't, I didn't. I like Breck Purdy. I just didn't view him at the tier one type quarterback had a superior supporting cast around him. You got Trent Williams, you had Debo, you had Brandon Ayuk, you got Christian McCaffrey in the backfield.

[Ocho Cinco]

How did it look?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Once, once some of those pieces went away, it wasn't as pretty. It wasn't pretty, huh?

[Ocho Cinco]

It's all about Ocho. When real estate. What is it about? It's about location, location, location. In the NFL it's about position, position, position. He plays A, premium. No A, he plays B, premium position. And so like man that house ain't. Man, that house ain't worth no $40 million. Maybe if it wasn't in Bel Air. You're right. But it's in Bel Air. It's absolutely worth $40 million. And if you want it, that's what you're gonna have to pay to get it. Well, a starting quarterback in the NFL that's going to a Super Bowl. He's gone to two NFC championships. He's one. That's what you're gonna have to pay to keep him. It's really. It's really. It's really that simple. Ocho, you know, all that, man, he ain't worth that. You work with somebody to pay for it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He plays very well in that offense, in that. Shanahan. Yes. Very, very well.

[Ocho Cinco]

Look, actually, he's probably worth more because he saved Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch's job because they invested all that money in trade in Trey Lance. They gave up all that draft capital to get Trey Lance. They took this man as Mr. Irrelevant in the last pick in the seventh round. Now, if you don't take him and you got Trey Lance and you done moved on from Trey Lance, you're gone. You gone. Hey, Uncle Ocho. Iuk. Didn't he. Didn't he tear his acl? Who else? Who else he. Who. Who else he throwing to? Brandon. Brandon. IU could be back. Juwan, Jenny, Ricky, Princess. Am I. You gonna be back already after acl? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

ACL don't take that long.

[Ocho Cinco]

Medicine different now, Joe. Medicine different now. He did it. He did it real early, so he'll definitely be back. So he did it, like, in September, so October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May, June, July.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, we got a few players coming back. We got, you know, Brandon, IU coming back off acl. Stefan dead coming back off acl. And it seemed like they're recovering faster because obviously, technology is a lot more advanced, and, you know, the rehab and stuff that they do is a lot more advanced.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yes, yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So players are coming back faster than ever, especially once you get over that mental. That mental block and understanding that you could trust your knee and. And be comfortable cutting and moving. Oh, man, that's. I mean, that's. That's. That's the hardest part right there.

[Ocho Cinco]

In just three seasons, he's passed for 9, 518 yards, 64 touchdowns, four playoff wins, NFC championship, and a Pro Bowl. So that's the go. That's the going rate. C.J. stroud is up next. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

C.J. stroud up next.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, He. He finna get the bag.

[Ocho Cinco]

Got the guap down. Yeah, yeah. And you know, pretty soon you're gonna have Jaden Daniels and Caleb Williams. They're gonna be coming down the pipe. Hey, they finished at the mark. They finna have quarterback out of control.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're gonna reset it.

[Ocho Cinco]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's 60 million. I mean, I mean, but Josh Allen got his whole contract guaranteed. 265. Ocho. Hey, no, well, he got. We're tacked on, so it's like 330. Was that more than what was Deshawn got? DeShawn got 230 guaranteed. Damn. They got the same agent. No, DeSean had David Mugaletta. I don't know who Brock Purdy's agent is. David Mugaletta. And I think all of them are athletes first, right? Who's Ty? Who's Brockburg? Oh, yeah, I've never heard of them. DeShawn. David Mugaletta is his agent. I think all them out of the athletes first. I thought Todd France, who had. Who has dak. Who. Who. I mean, look at. Look at CEO Todd France. I think he's at athletic. Yeah. So. But yeah, I. I agree with you, Ocho. I. I think Brock Purdy was deserving, had earned this, given what he had done. His resume, a Pro Bowl, a Super Bowl, NFC championship game. 2. He had been gone to 2. NFC championship game. Remember, he tore his. His. His elbow. Messed his elbow up like the first snap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was a playoff game, wasn't it? That's a playoff game. Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho Cinco]

And championship game, the ch. NFC championship game to the Eagles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sure was.

[Ocho Cinco]

And so, yeah, he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He.

[Ocho Cinco]

He was earned. He earned this. He earned this big payday. I like to see guys and I like to see team reward the players. You play well, we're going to reward you. Don't do all that haggling. I hate that. They haggle all other positions except the quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Quarterback position. Like that ever.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, I hate that. Look, look, man, hey, I understand that he's important, but I've done my job. I've gone to four Pro Bowls. I've been two or three time first team, all pro. And now you want to haggle me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They gonna always do it.

[Ocho Cinco]

They always. I'm trying to think who. So CJ's gonna be up next year. As a matter of fact, if I'm the Ravens, I go ahead and do something with Lamar. What you mean sign him? I. I stand him. Yeah. Hell yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gotta do it. Yeah, you gotta do it again. Probably sometime in the middle I bet they do something in the middle of the season. Watch.

[Ocho Cinco]

Either middle of the season or after the season. How many years he got left? Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shoot. He just signed that big one.

[Ocho Cinco]

He signed a five year, two something. Yeah, so what? He third year into that second year, this is the second year to it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you got certain people that's getting ready to overlap him and they ain't got no business.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah, no, we, well, hey, well, you see I, we just named three, six, eight quarterbacks and we ain't mention Lamar. Lamar is about. I think lamar is about 50.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They ain't got no business overlapping. Young bull.

[Ocho Cinco]

Yeah. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Excuse me. Hold on, I gotta use the bathroom real quick. Hold on.

[Ocho Cinco]

Well, you better get him before he's. He mess around and win a Super bowl because now you have to pay him 70 million. Lamar? Yeah, he has two MVPs. Only the only guy on this list that has an MVP is Josh Allen. So Lamar has two. Dak doesn't have any. Joe doesn't have any. Joe has gone to the super bowl, but he's the only one here. And Brock Purdy, that's on this list that's going to the Super Bowl. None of the other guys have even played in the championship game. Yeah, that's going to be the separator for Lamar. If he can get him one, if he can win one. It's over, man. It's definitely over. If you can do that, what are they gonna have to back that brink struck up, yo. Oh, for sure. But they definitely have the team. You know, they resigned. They resigned. They didn't resign him, they extended him. King Henry gave him 25 million. Two year extension. 25 million, they extended him. I like Rashad Bateman, I like the receiving core. They got. They brought Andrews back. They brought Lively back. Likely Isaiah, likely it brought him back. Look, the defense is going to be solid again. Offensive line is intact. Lamar is going to be Lamar. So you know, they're going to be consistently. They're going to be pretty good. They're gonna be there. Yep. They just got, you know, the hardest thing is to break it through that wall the first time. Once you break through, then all of a sudden it's just like, yeah, it happened. But that's the hardest thing you see. Josh Allen hadn't broken through yet because seemingly when they have to go against my homeboy, only a handful of people have been able to stare him down in the, in the playoff game and that's been. Joe Burrow did it and Tom Brady did it. Brady beat him in the super bowl once and Jalen hurts just got him. But it's tough. It's tough getting through that first time.

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[Ocho Cinco]

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