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Michael
87%?
Yeah.
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Sharif
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Michael
This isn't going to be so much as a speaker as I'm just going to stand here and I'm going to interview this person and I say stand here because this person happens to be right here next to me right now. This person is a young person, 21 years old that literally in the first two years in selling real estate, he has listed over 220 homes this year alone. That's not counting this year's numbers. This year alone he's already up at I think 20 listings on the year, 19 or 20 listings on the year. So please welcome, if you will Please, my son, Mr. Austin Helixon, who's also a Club wealth coach. And by the way, ladies, he is single and ready to mingle and hates it when I say that. But I can't help it because same
Austin Helixon
with the rest of my team.
Michael
Yeah, that's right. His whole team is single. That's actually true. Maybe it's because they work so much, I don't know. But they're freaking ballers. And so if you guys know of any young ladies, he's a really nice guy. And mom and I are taking daughter in law applications as we speak. Yeah, and coach Paul makes a good point. He is hitting the gym. And so that's.
Austin Helixon
Yeah, not as much as I should, but.
Michael
But here's the thing. I will tell you this, this is what I want you to hear about this kid and what I want you to learn from him right now. You guys need to have more lead sources, okay? Everybody needs more lead sources. I would suggest that if you want to make 250,000 to $500,000 a year, you need to have a minimum of 10 to 15 lead sources to make seven figures a year, then you need to have 25 to 35 lead sources. Now I'll tell you this, this one here, he's. He was. I was a little disappointed in him last year. For year one, he did about 700,000 in gross commission income. Year two, he did $970,000. Like if this guy had just sold one more house or maybe two, he could have broken the million dollar mark his second year selling real estate. What the freak. What? How lazy can. I mean, sorry. I love you. I. I love you, dude. But seriously, all it took was.
Austin Helixon
It's because of coach Sharif.
Michael
Is it his fault? It's his fault. So blame on Sharif. Blame street. Have to blame Sharif. All right, so that be. And yes, he does speak Spanish. So if you got English speaking, Spanish speaking referrals, he handles. And watch this. I want you guys to pay attention here. He handles the entire state of Washington. I'm saying that because so many of you are so concerned about driving too far to get to a listing and you only want to go a half hour from your home or whatever. I'm telling you right now, guys, this kid will go. I've seen him go as far as nine and a half hours one way. Had to go all the way down to another state and back up into Washington to get to a listing appointment. Guys, you've got to be willing to travel further.
Austin Helixon
And today the furthest one I've set so far is four hours away.
Michael
So you set an appointment today for
Austin Helixon
one that's grand Code in.
Michael
So it's four hours from here. Yeah, dude. And guys, and by the way, watch this. Do you even care what price point it is?
Austin Helixon
It's like 250.
Michael
250, right. And what's your average is about 600.
Austin Helixon
No, it's a state average. We're probably 350 to 400.
Michael
350 to 400. This is average right now. But, but my point is it doesn't matter what the sales price or what the list price is going to be. It doesn't matter what that price point is. I've seen you go to it's, you know, three, four hours for a mobile home.
Austin Helixon
Saturday I drove to Tri Cities from leave more so three and a half hours for one hundred and something thousand dollars property. That was a five minute appointment.
Michael
That's what it takes, guys. And by the way, you didn't get that one and the gap.
Austin Helixon
That sucked.
Michael
Tell us. Okay, so watch this. I want you guys to pay attention. Why was it rough?
Austin Helixon
Oh, I just this. Sometimes when I go into the listing point, you just know and the air in the room was not there and. Yeah, it was. It was just one of those. One of those appointments.
Michael
You just knew that they were going to shut you down hard.
Austin Helixon
Yeah, it was worse than some of the ones that coach Paul and I went on when he was here.
Michael
It smelled bad. That's funny. But here's the thing, guys. I'm, I'm telling you all this because I want you to know that, look, if this kid can list 220 homes in two years, 97 homes is first year selling real estate. Guys, if he can do it, you can do it. And you just got to be willing to change a few things. So, Austin, I want you to talk specifically about some of the lead sources that you're using right now. You know, what are. Let's just start with your top three lead sources or let's just say three of your favorite lead sources.
Austin Helixon
I love referral exchange. Reach out to coach Linda Wells for that. One in particular, I want to give. I want to make sure she gets credit when you sign up. So you have to do at least 20 million in volume in the past year to get. And then it's $100 a month with a 25% referral fee. So again, please don't just. And you have to be invited to join their program. So if you want to get invited to the program, reach out to coach Linda Welsh or myself and I can get you her contact information because that'll help her get more leads. And there you go, Coach Brad. Three listings from it last week. It's. It's very good. I got a listing lead from it, but three.
Michael
Three.
Austin Helixon
I think over this weekend. We have one on the market with them right now. It's a very, it's a very good lead source. Thank you, Coach Linda, for that email. Yes. Reach out to her in the chat. Linda, lindawelshrealty.com what else? There's List with Clever. It's a Coach Truth and I talked about this one the other day.
Michael
It's, it's a double edged sword.
Austin Helixon
Yes.
Michael
Yeah.
Austin Helixon
That said it just signed a listing this last week from, from what's it called?
Michael
List with Clever.
Austin Helixon
List with Clever.
Michael
Yeah. And then what's the downside? So first of all, tell us how List with Clever works. What's, you know, because you know, what's the downside? What's the upside?
Austin Helixon
It's, it's like an up nest or a ideal agent to where they have a comm commission that they say that you're offering.
Michael
So you're, you're, you're supposed to use their prescribed commission amount.
Austin Helixon
Correct? Which, but yeah, with coach Sharif, you taught me on our coaching call this last week. Yes, Liz, with clever.com, paula, is that you can upcharge from there, but they'll only charge you the referral fee based off of the percentage based off the
Michael
one or the one based on the number that they prescribe ahead of time. Okay, now watch this guys. Here's, I'm going to throw this out there because this is very important. You know what? I'm going to shut this freaking thing off. Mom's going to kill me. She hates the background when I turn this off. But watch this, guys. We're going to get rid of this virtual background because it's really messing with me here. All right, There you go. Now you can see us better. My OCD is freaking out. All right, so watch this. Whoa, hang on.
Austin Helixon
Shreve's mentioned is you have your, your marketing menu still, but the prescribed commission amount that list with Clever wants you to charge. You put that as the basic and then you upcharge from there. And the extra you don't pay the referral fee based off of.
Michael
That's how you do it. And this is important too, because you guys need to stay in compliance with the Sherman Antitrust Trust Act. And so what I don't want you to do is I don't want you just to go in and only charge whatever List with Clever tells you you're supposed to charge because again, that would be a violation of the Sherman Animator stack. So you got to go in there with your commission menu, show them three different options, let them choose, show them the value, let them pick, and let them decide how much they're going to pay the selling office, if anything. Right. All right. So very important. Well, give us another great lead source
Austin Helixon
list of clever referral exchange. I mean, and of course, there's always the free ones, first and foremost, right?
Michael
You're. When you say free, you mean referral based?
Austin Helixon
No, no, no, free.
Michael
Oh, totally free.
Austin Helixon
Fizbos, canceled expireds.
Michael
Yeah. So hold on. So what percentage of the listings that you have? Like, first of all, how many listings do you think you have on active or like. Either. Either active or coming soon? Right now we signed. Signed listings.
Austin Helixon
Probably 50.
Michael
50. Okay. All right. And how many of those do you think are from sources like Fizzos Expireds?
Austin Helixon
Honestly, not many. Maybe. Maybe if we're lucky, 10%.
Michael
10%. Okay. All right, so most of the calls you're making now are not to expireds and Fizbos. They're. They are.
Austin Helixon
I still do it like every single day. I'm still calling them.
Michael
Well, I understand that, but aren't you making a lot of calls to follow ups to your other lead sources? Correct. So what percentage of the calls are you making are from your other lead sources versus for the both majority. So most of it's the other lead sources, and only about 10 of the calls you make are fizzless and expireds.
Austin Helixon
Yes, got it.
Michael
Which makes sense. And so now watch this. Hold on. I want to give you guys some hope here because some of you guys are fairly new, right? Some of you guys are just getting started. You're just trying to really ramp up your lead generation. On the listing side, Austin, your first year, was it like that your first year? Or was it More expired than FSBO's first year and became more of these other lead sources?
Austin Helixon
A mixture of both. I'd probably say closer to 25%. But we honestly.
Michael
Excuse me.
Austin Helixon
Jumped off the bat calling everything. Yeah, okay, But a lot of what we do is cash offer lead sources, which is double edged sword again.
Michael
Okay, so let's talk about, you know,
Austin Helixon
one of my favorites, that trigger listings.
Michael
Well, that's actually. Okay, so for trigger, let's talk first. Let's baby step them into trigger because for most people on the call, they probably can't afford trigger listings yet. So what's the baby step to trigger listings is like candy. Leads like candy. Right. And so you're you and leads like candy. For you. Those of you that don't know, we get a discount on that. For you guys, it's our discount link into Z buyer. Ben, if you could put leadslikecandy.com in the chat so that everybody's got. There it is. Right There. And so a lot of people say, oh, that lead source sucks. And I like to say, no, you freaking suck. Right? Watch this. Austin, how do you do with leads like candy?
Austin Helixon
We do all right. We don't do crazy good. I would say. Okay, I think 20, 22, we did 10 or 11 listings from.
Michael
Okay, we did all right. We listed about a house a month out of that. Okay, so is that good? I mean, what do you want to watch this? What does leads like candy cost for most people in a typical market? You have no idea. Okay, so if you guys are using leads like candy, I know Brad uses them. Brad, if you could just type in what you pay per month for leads like candy. Maybe Linda, you know, any of you, the guys that have it, I think I'm curious what your monthly spend is, but he's listing literally a house a month out of it. And some of you guys are spending like Brad's at 15 bucks a lead, 15 bucks a sell. Dude, that's cheap.
Austin Helixon
That's free.
Michael
Cheap. Oh, it is free, right? That's incredible. 500 bucks a month for Paul Peron. I mean guys, that's a, that's great. Roi, go ahead.
Austin Helixon
Well, as I say, what's great about that is you can get a lot of leads. And one of the problems that, I don't know, other coaches have found is that the percentage of listings that I have of the ones that cancel, 99.999 of the listings that cancel are cash offer lead sources.
Michael
Yep.
Austin Helixon
I think we've maybe ever had in the 200 plus we've signed 5 or 10 cancel that were non cash offer lead sources. And the cash offer lead sources, I mean you'll sign them, which is great. But then again, motivation changes etc as it is unfortunately, bail ship. So and it's a double edged sword with it, you'll be able to sign a good amount of listings. They'll close fast too. But when they cancel it's like, oh my gosh, that sucks.
Michael
But on balance, they augment your listing portfolio. They give you, they give you cash flow. They also bring in clients that, that oftentimes turn into really good repeat clients, referral sources and that sort of thing.
Austin Helixon
Well, I guess a great example is one of our client. We have a closing tomorrow. It's my seller from GeoPoint Data, which is cash offer lead source.
Michael
Hold on, that's clubwealth.com forward/geopoint. So Ben, if you could put that in the chat, clubwealth.com, that's Geo Point.
Austin Helixon
Go ahead and the buyer reached out to me, actually, myself, personally, said, hey, I want. I want. I'm interested in this house, interested in this property. So I handed him off to Parm, who qualified for a leads that day. Parm showed them once, wrote them up, we went under contract, and now we're closing tomorrow. And, oh, by the way, she has to buy since, unfortunately it's a divorce situation. And Jesse on our team, who qualified for leads, is gonna be helping her purchase a house. So this one lead, which GEO points, I believe is $52 a lead here in Washington, or we. I at least pay, will turn into 60, 65 in commissions.
Michael
60 or $65,000 in commissions from one lead. And by the way, what. So what do you pay for that lead, source?
Austin Helixon
Every month?
Michael
Ballpark.
Austin Helixon
Not too much ballpark.
Michael
I don't want to say.
Austin Helixon
You're gonna kill me. I cap it at like a thousand to fifteen hundred bucks.
Michael
Why are you capping it?
Austin Helixon
Because, like I said, like I said.
Michael
Freak. Are you kidding me? Why would you cap that thing? Okay, he's not gonna cap it going forward. He's gonna start spending some more money on it going forward.
Austin Helixon
Because we have to do is, you have to upload money, and then they. So, like, for example, you upload 2500 bucks, and then they'll give you leads until it goes down to zero. Then you upload more money, then they bring you back down. What I forget to do is go in there and add money.
Michael
Oh, my God.
Austin Helixon
So they don't have any money to spend.
Michael
So is. Am I the only one with children that give you a headache? Like, seriously, is it just me? I mean, my gosh. Okay, so here's the question I have to ask. What's your ROI on this lead source?
Austin Helixon
Well, now it's gonna be great.
Michael
Oh, my God. What was it up to this point? Was it good up to this point?
Austin Helixon
Honestly, I really don't know. I haven't looked at that number in a little.
Michael
Oh, my gosh. Who's your coach? Like I'm telling you right now, if I find your coach, I'm gonna strangle him. He was just on here. Yeah, it's a video. Yeah. Sharif, why don't you jump on here real quick, bro? Freaking. Where's Sharif at? Seriously, I can't. What kind of coach are you? Like, I thought you were a good coach, and then all of a sudden I hear that this kid's not even tracking his roi. I know you use stat how to read it.
Sharif
That's not my fault. That'd Be your fault for trying to promote him to find a wife. Now he's preoccupied with girls and here we are.
Michael
Yeah, you're not wrong. Look at that. So Laura makes a good point. Can we set up an auto pay? Can we just. Oh, my gosh. I know.
Austin Helixon
That's what I'm saying.
Michael
So then can you not have an assistant do this on a regular basis? Dude, Sharif, coach him up, bro. Help me out. What are you doing? This is weak. All right, listen, for those of you that want 17 of our best lead sources, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to make it easy for you. I want you guys to go to. I want you to grab your cell phone and I want you to send a text message with the words club wealth to the following number. 727-287-5993. Yeah, Coach Paul nailed it.
Austin Helixon
What's great about that, though, Paul, with this upcoming closing that can pay to fix the car.
Michael
No, you're not fixing.
Austin Helixon
I'm kidding.
Michael
Oh, my gosh. Okay, hold on. So again, text 727-287-5993. Send the words Club wealth to that number. And what it's going to do is it's going to send you. And actually, if you guys do it while we're on the webinar, will give you 31 of our best lead sources. Okay? 31. I think almost every one of them, if not all of them, he's using also. And I think most of the coaches you've heard from today are using these same lead sources now, by the way, have you guys noticed what I'm doing? And we're going to get back to talking to our coaches and doing some more q and a for you guys here in just a second. But did you notice that we're always driving you guys back to our website for stuff? So what we do is we create these links. So it does two things. One, it makes it really easy for you to remember and find where to get the right information. And number two, it gets you going to our website, which helps us in a ton of ways, too. Right. We're just giving you free information, but by giving you all this great stuff for free, it gets more traffic to our website, which helps us in SEO. It allows us to pixel you. Right. So now when you go there, we're going to retarget you, which means when you go different places on the web, you're going to see our stuff. We're. You're going to see club wealth in front of you more Often, which gets more engagement, which gets more people doing business with guys. It's like, this is what you need to do. I want you to do this in your business, okay? Somebody asked, you know. Well, my company provides me with a website. Is that enough? No. No, that's not. Are you kidding me?
Sharif
What?
Michael
No. You have your own website? No. Okay, let's do. Okay. Oh, geez. Dude. For a second, I thought I was gonna have to attack him again. All right, but you guys get my point, right? Like, it's not enough to just have your company's freaking provided website. You need to have another website. Now, if I'm brand new, I'm in tier one right now. I just need to get some money coming in, right? So, Austin, watch this. You just. You. You're brand new in the last two years. Now, I'm saying this because, guys, for those of you that have been in the business less than two years, you're not getting a ton of sphere of influence business. Let's be real here, okay? Because all the people that know you, they think of you as that high school kid or they think of you as a nurse or a fireman or whatever you did before you got into real estate. That's how they see you. And so in your first couple of years, you're not getting a lot of sphere of influence business. And so what do you recommend, Austin, for somebody who's either brand new or just needs to get up and running and doesn't have a lot of sphere of influence coming in?
Austin Helixon
Dial for dollars. I mean.
Michael
Okay, well, be very specific. Who am I calling? How often, how many. Right?
Austin Helixon
Fizbo's canceled, expires. I mean, those are cheap, basically free lead sources that you can get, and they're.
Michael
And then maybe leads like Candy, right? Because that's probably the next cheapest one, right?
Austin Helixon
We're not even there yet. I would cancel expired, because if you're starting, you probably have little to no money. Or. And talk to your team leader and get your team leader to provide a leads like Candy to provide these other lead sources to you. So you can see that success. And I mean, fizzbos are super easy. And you think about it, they had motivation to sell or to sell, currently, right? As a Fizbo, they're on the market, they're trying to sell. They just don't know what they're doing. Right, which is why it's sitting on the market. So go in there and show them the value that you have. And. And why, why?
Michael
Why?
Austin Helixon
They need to work with somebody because they always say that they don't want to pay an agent's commission, but if you help them get an extra $50,000, would they pay an agent's commission? Yeah, they're more worried about what goes into their pocket. At the end of the day. They're more worried about the time frame, the easiness and the things and rather than the process or method in which they sell, just get them the end result that they're looking for.
Michael
And Austin, by the way, to your point, you mentioned a moment ago, you know, we were talking about all these different lead sources and we talked a little bit about some referral based lead sources. So Renata Steele was asking, are there any free lead generation sites that work on a percentage? So in other words, they get paid only if you sell and close a house. And the answer is, Renata, Yes. Yes, there are. And they're on that list that we're going to send you. Now, Coach Paul and Coach Austin, we're both talking about things you can do for free right now. The here's the five big ones. And I know that some of you are in New York and if you're in New York, they have this big rule against cold calling. You get fined $20,000, blah, blah, blah, blah. Paul, I'm curious, does that include like, if I'm calling for sale by owners, is that am I in violation there or because they have their house for sale, am I okay to call them?
Paul
Coach Paul oh, no, you're. You're not allowed to call for sale by owners.
Michael
Not allowed to call for sale by owners. Okay, so then here's the big five. Well, here's the big five for everybody like that. For if I'm brand new in the business, here's the five easy, easy things I do. I do fizzos, expireds, cold calls, open houses and sphere of influence. So guess which of those. And Coach Paul added because he's in New York and Long island, so he knows and it's really. And it's actually more effective in Long Island. I can do door to door actually pretty effectively because I'm going into a bunch of high rise apartments and stuff. Right. Or high lines, high rise condos and stuff.
Paul
Right.
Michael
Or I'm going through neighborhoods that are a lot more tightly packed. And so what that does is it means I'm hitting a lot more homes a lot more quickly than I would in general suburbia America. Right. And so it can be fairly effective that way. And door to door is nice because you're meeting them face to Face that
Austin Helixon
said, well, coach Luigi mentioned about open houses. Is that that's what he was, was it? Of all the CO Williams office on the west coast, he was their number one agent, lead source open houses. So if you're brand new in the business and you're not on a team, why not sit at an open house that's a vacant house? Or even if it honestly vacant house probably be best because then you can just go in there whenever you want, host it from 7:30 in the morning to the afternoon, bring a folding chair and a folding table into the house with you and make calls from inside the house.
Michael
Yep. Literally, I would be holding open houses every single day. If I'm brand new in this business. That is probably the easiest way to get business right now. I would do everything Mark Standards tells us at his class that he's teaching at listing agent boot camp. I'd follow the checklist. And I'm telling you right now, guys, it's, it's money. I mean, right now, open houses are performing better than they have in the last decade. I mean, they really are. Go ahead.
Austin Helixon
We're seeing better success this year than we have in previous years. In terms of agents showing up. What's also great about Washington state now is they require buyer agency agreements within our mls. With that, all these agents or all these clients being like, oh, I already have an agent.
Paul
Oh, awesome.
Austin Helixon
Have you signed a buyer agency agreement with them?
Michael
Nope.
Austin Helixon
Oh, so you don't have an agent.
Michael
Right. And by the way, worst question you can ask is, do you have an agent? Stop asking that question. What should we be asking? Who's your agent? That's what you need to ask. Because when you ask, do you have an agent, guess what they're going to say every single time?
Austin Helixon
Yep.
Michael
Oh, yeah, I got an agent. No. No, you don't. You just got them to lie. And what? And lying doesn't feel good. And you don't want your clients to feel bad. You want them to feel good. Right. And so it's very important that we not put them in a position to lie. So ask the right questions so that they never do that. All right. Paula asks about dialers. And by the way, I'm gonna. Let's do this. We're gonna open this up. Let's get all of our coaches back on. By the way, for those of you that are interested in kid referrals, look, you want to make more money? This guy makes more money per deal than anybody on the call. I'm telling you right now, his average commission is going to be higher than everybody that you've ever met in this business in terms of percentage. And, and, and by the way, his close rate is out of this world as well. And so here's what I'm going to suggest to you. You want to get paid more money on every referral you send to Washington state? Send him this guy. He covers the entire state of Washington. He and his team are going to crush it. They're going to get you paid. Go ahead.
Austin Helixon
Sent out almost an $8,000 referral check this last week, dude.
Michael
How cool is that, right? All right, so we got our coaches back on. You're staying here. You're not going anywhere. All right, Nice try. He's like, I want to get back on the phones, dad. I got money to make. All right, watch this. So I'm gonna ask a couple of questions. Dialers and coaches, you can verbally answer as well. Feel free to unmute your microphones whenever you feel like it. But the dialer I like that we use at club wealth in house is sales dialers. If you've heard of mojo dialer, that. That. Mojo is just sales dollars resold. It's. It's actually the. The company that. That. That powers mojo is sales dollars. You go to clubault.com forward slash. Actually, I'm sorry, It used to be called sales dollars. Now it's called prospect boss. Right. Sorry. I always screw that up. So go to clubau.com forward/prospectboss. Ben, if you can put that in the chat. Clubwealth.com forward/prospectboss. That's the one I use. Austin, what are you using?
Austin Helixon
Lofty.
Michael
He's using a lot of chime or lofty. Right? Which we freaking. Best CRM on the planet by far. Right now. Nobody's even close. I'd say the next closest good CRM is Sierra. They're pretty good. And then I'd say follow up boss is kind of way down here, but the next one, and then after that is everybody else. What dialers are you guys using? Sharif, Peter, Paul.
Paul
Follow up boss. Built in dial boss.
Michael
Built in dialer. Good.
Peter
Same.
Michael
Same. Okay. Sharif, Follow boss. Something tells me you guys have been talking to each other. Whatever you use until lofty. What are you talking about? Anyway? All right, good stuff. All right, so you're using the built in dialer there. And. Yeah, Kunji, we love chime. I'm sorry, Lofty. Now I keep calling chime. It's its old name. It's now called lofty. For those of you that haven't already checked it out. You guys need to get involved in Black Hat. Let me tell you what Black Hat is. Black Hat is a technology we built out. It works with any CRM. You can bolt it onto any CRM. But if you don't already have a great CRM, it comes with Lofty included. And so you have all of that functionality. And what Black Hat does is it's AI. It's artificial intelligence technology. And what it will do is literally every lead that comes in, it will instantly respond to them. It will get them in conversation, and then you can take over that conversation at any point. It's very effective. It'll increase your speed lead. It'll increase your conversion rates. There's more that I'm not even telling you. If it's $154 a month and comes with Lofty, so you can actually save the money that you're paying on your CRM now by combining the two. And by the way, if you're using my daughter, if you're. As long as you're not in New York. Sorry, Paul, I know that you really want to do this, but we. You know that she's not New York yet. But as long as you're not in New York or Massachusetts or South Carolina, right now, Madison can actually. My daughter can work with you on your loans. If you're working with her on your loans, she'll pay for half of it. So it's only 77 for you. And she'll let you use her ISAs, which is her inside sales agents, and they will actually make outbound calls for you. So that being said, if you guys are interested in that. Nope. Don't even put in there. If you guys are interested in that, here's what I want you to do. I want you to type Black Hat into your chat right now. Type in the word Black Cat into your chat right now. And I will have Madison or her husband Sawyer, who's our tech guru over there for Black Cat. We'll have one of them reach out to you. They'll tell you all about it. All right, so let's keep moving forward. I got more questions for the. For the guys here. Speaking of which, how can we have all guys today? We should. We need a girl. And next time we do one of these wild riders, we need a woman. At least one like Lynn Cole or Liz or Virginia. We got so many great, strong women that are really good. How do we not have one of them on here? This is stupid. This is dumb. I can't believe we didn't do that. All right, so let's go to Betty. Is leads like candy.com only for the USA? And how about GeoPoint? Is that USA only? I don't know about all this. Do you guys know. Does anybody coach anybody in Canada that could answer that? You guys aren't sure? I want to say leads like Candy is Canadian, but I don't think Geo point is.
Paul
I think they're getting there, but not fully yet.
Michael
So you're saying leads like Candy is in Canada or not?
Paul
He's getting there.
Michael
Getting there.
Austin Helixon
I think Geopoint only is in Wash or United States.
Michael
Geo points only United States. Okay, cool. All right, so there you go. Sorry about that. And let's go to Renata. Asks what percentage of leads that are that already have an agent. What is the percentage of leads that already have an agent? I mean, most leads that come in don't have an agent already when you first get the lead. Unless you're talking about a specific lead source, I'm not sure what that would be.
Austin Helixon
Maybe 4 or 5% at most.
Michael
I mean, hey, do me a favor. Grab Ron. Tell them to whoever's smoking weed out back, get him. I love it when I'm doing a webinar and I can hear I can smell somebody smoking weed next door. Like, are you freaking kidding me?
Paul
Guys, tell Ron to put it down.
Michael
Dude, it's so gross. Yeah, right? Yeah. So gross. I'm starting to get.
Paul
I want to address that question about how many of the leads already have an agent? Now, realistically, everyone you speak to knows multiple agents and probably has spoken to an agent. So don't let that stop you from making the call. Just get in there, ask better questions, be better, and don't care if they do. Just show that you're going to provide more value and have them choose you anyway.
Austin Helixon
And catch this. If they say they already have an agent, what's the harm in trying if they say no anyways, Right? Practice your scripts, get better. Work on your objection handlers. And they're going to hang up anyways. Okay, great. Talk to you later.
Michael
All right, you guys are going to some. Some of the people on this call. There's a snowflake on the call here somewhere that's going to get pissed off when I say this, but I don't care. I'm going to say it anyway. Guys, if they're talking to you and they say they've got an agent, they're not that loyal to their agent, right? So if they. If they were loyal to that Agent, they shouldn't be talking to you anyway. Either the agent's done a bad job educating them, or they really aren't that loyal to somebody else, in which case, go get them. I say they're fair game at that point. All right, so that said, let's go to Tony says, hi, Tony from Nashville. I'm 90. Referral based. What is your percentage breakdown on warm closings versus cold closings? So in other words, you guys just really quick, rapid fire. What percentage of your business comes from sphere of influence versus all other sources? I'm about 50.
Paul
50 right now.
Michael
Okay, Sharif, Peter, Austin. Go ahead, Sharif.
Sharif
Yeah, I would say our sphere leads are about 50 of our business.
Michael
Okay, Peter?
Peter
Yeah, I would say a little bit less than 50. And then it's divided into like. Like, let's say 10 different lead sources after that.
Michael
Okay, gotcha. Austin.
Austin Helixon
I think we might have done three closing sphere influence in two years.
Michael
So again, he's brand new to this. Right? So thanks to Coach Sharif, of course. Right. But here's the thing, guys. I mean, at the end of the day, there's hope. Like, you don't need to be getting a ton of your business from your sphere right off the bat. We'll increase that number over time. Okay? But that's the key, is it's going to increase over time, all right?
Austin Helixon
Which is why we're doing client events and all our other events that we do to market to them.
Michael
Well. And you're starting to finally do those things, which is good. And by the way, that's the key, guys. If you want to get more business out of your sphere of influence, you need four client events per year. Cannot stress that enough. Okay. Gotta have four client events per year. All right, we answered Paula Schwartz's question about, you know, is my brokerage website good enough? The answer is no. You should get a better website. And now I'm not saying in. In lieu of. It might be in addition to. Okay, but you want both. You want to figure out, what's my hub website? What's the one website I want to drive all my stuff to and have all the other websites that you get. Like, the nice thing is your brokerage website, it's on a different server than your website's going to be on. So when it backlinks. Remember Sharif was talking about the backlinks when it backlinks to your site and you got all these other sites backlinking to that same site that you want to make your hub, Guess what? That's the site that starts getting The SEO juice. That's the, that needs to be your IDX site. That's your site where you're going to start getting all the traffic. Coach Sharif, anything to add to that?
Sharif
No, that's perfectly said. You definitely want to pick one site and definitely make that winner. So ours is sharif sells.com, but we have multiple sites that just go to it and we advertise that as well as the other ones. But you definitely want to get most of it coming just to one place. So you definitely concentrate it and bring your rankings up.
Michael
And while we've got you unmuted, Betty says, is writing a blog really going to improve your SEO?
Sharif
I mean, I get it all the time when people find us from our blogs. Especially if you can go hyper local with your blogs and write about, you know, the businesses in your community. Maybe an event that's coming up. I'm still waiting for Austin to write one about the, the fair at Leavenworth. I mean, it's, it's really what you want to do is get. And people will find you that way. They happen to be searching that and they find you and you just want to bring people back to your site.
Austin Helixon
Next coaching call, let me tell you,
Michael
they can say, you say that you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. This is why this, this kid right here, this is why arranged marriages used to be a thing, right? Like, this is what, this is how this happens. I'm just saying. All right, so that said, coaches Peter and Sharif both, I want to ask you guys because, you know, this has been heavy on my mind as I'm starting to grow that Leavenworth Facebook group, by the way, for you. You're welcome. Anyway, that said, I want to know because I've been starting to go around, I've been talking to these businesses and I know somewhere in this million comments that we've got here, the questions that we' got here, somebody was asking about, well, is how do I keep that to 30 seconds? Do I go around and I do these interviews with these businesses. Do I need to keep it at 30 seconds or can it, can it go a little bit longer? What are your guys thoughts on that?
Peter
I mean, I'll go, you know, it's good to keep it under 30 seconds. You don't have to have a perfect start and ending. Actually the best performing videos that are got in between the actual story where it's not a perfect, you know, star and a perfect ending. Okay. So don't focus too much on that. If you have a attractive. Like your first three seconds really are the most. Are the most important part of the video altogether. So if you can kind of find the perfect 30 seconds in that video and just post it there and it has a good message at the end of the day, I think it will do really well.
Michael
Good stuff. Sharif, anything to add to that?
Sharif
I mean, I would just go for as much content as you can, and if it goes long, you can chop it up into smaller stuff. I mean, that's really what it comes down to is just do it. Get the content, just do the videos. Don't worry about how long it is or what you're saying. Just get to it and do it as soon as possible. Then start it consistently. Austin.
Michael
Right, dude. I mean, hey, Paul, maybe you could work with him on mindset. I don't know, man. I'm not sure if that's the problem. If it's something else, don't ask. Paul.
Sharif
Paul has the same mission right now. I coach.
Michael
And Paul, your next coaching call. I see your blame, Sharif. You're gonna get it, too. I coach Peter, but Peter.
Sharif
Peter's good.
Michael
I have no problems with Peter right now. But Austin and Paul, if you guys want to see some real fireworks, come to listing agent boot camp and be there when these guys see each other for the first time there. Oh, this is gonna be great. All right, so Cherie asks it. Look, so you're saying I can backlink to my broker website or to my. She's with real. And so can I. Can I backlink real website? I can't speak to real. I don't know if real allows that or not, but most brokerages would allow that. And on your profile, everywhere you go across the web, every profile you have, you want that linking back to your main site. That's the key. And what's nice, again is they're all on different servers. Right. So that's going to help you. Okay, so we've got just. I'm going to just take one. A couple more questions. I don't know how much time the guys have here. I want to be respectful of their time as well. Well, but let's. Let's back up here. Actually, Jamie, real quick. Go ahead, Peter.
Peter
I just forgot to add this on my slide, too, because it did take me a really long time before I. My videos are started to take off. So don't get hung up on, hey, my videos are not working or posting is not working. Just do it and believe that it's gonna work and do it enough time Just because you did it once or twice and it didn't work or you didn't see a lot of engagement, you stopped.
Michael
Stop.
Peter
My first. My first videos were horrible. I sounded very bad and I looked very bad. Like I didn't know what to say. But it started improving over time. So you guys just got to start somewhere and then it will definitely get better if you stay consistent with it.
Michael
I didn't. I wasn't going to say anything, Peter, but now that you mentioned you were kind of like the dude in high school with the headgear, you know, the braces and the headgear and the whole nine yards trying to get those videos out and, dude, I just can't. I kept seeing your videos over and over and over again. You know, like one view, two views, no views, no views, three views, right? And now all of a sudden, it's like everything you do, like, it just takes off and like, you're just crushing it now. But that's because he's consistent, which, you know, some other people could learn. All right, so that said, before I forget, I'm gonna. We're gonna keep going here for a few more minutes. But guys, don't forget. Get signed up for that local half day event in your area, wherever you happen to be. And if you're not sure if we have a half day event coming up in your area, go to clubwealth.com forward/events and then use the promo code webinar so you can get that ticket at no cost. And then for those of you that want to come to listing Agent Boot Camp, don't forget to go to clubwealth.com forward/half off, cluboealth.com forward/half off. And that'll get you the half price ticket. And Shafen, yes, we do have an Arlington, Texas event coming up. I got Arlington. I think San Antonio and Austin are coming up. Maybe it's Houston and Austin, but we've got several events coming up in Texas here in the next 60 days. Would love to see at one of those. And so that being said, let's keep moving forward. Hold on. What was the other thing I would say? Oh, by the way, some of you guys are kind of thinking to yourselves, gosh, you know what? I'd love to go to Listing Agent Boot Camp. I just can't afford to do it right now. I just, you know, maybe I'm just. Money's a little tighter than needs to be. So let me ask you this. If I could take away the financial concern, if I Could literally make it. If I could, could find a place to save you some way more money than it would cost you to go to the event and buy the airfare in the hotel and all that stuff, if I could save you that money and make it so that literally you, you could go and it essentially wouldn't cost you anything, would you go? And my hunch is you'd all say yes, right? I mean, all these four guys are going, right? I'm going. But here's the thing, here's what I'm gonna do. How many of you have insurance right now? Health insurance? Watch this. We found a way where we can save our family. Saved over twelve hundred dollars a month by switching our health insurance. And we got better coverage to boot and a lower deductible to boot like we got. It just ended up being amazing. And so here's what I'm going to suggest. If you'd like to know how to do what we did, then I want you to comment insurance in the chat and I will have someone reach out to you about the insurance. Dude, let me just tell you this, guys. Not only did we save a boatload of money, I can tell you that it's also kind of like some of these brokerages, like the exps, the reels and the LPTs and the. What is it? Epic. And there's all these other brokerages out there right now where you can make money by referring people to them. Guess what? In the first 45 days after we signed up this, I signed up 210 more people underneath me. So now not only am I not paying for insurance, I'm literally making way more money than it would ever cost me. And I'm just getting checks every month. I just get checks every month and it's super easy. And by the way, way, if you, if all you did was this, if you just made the one change, whether you signed up anybody up under you or not, if all you did was just change your insurance, you're gonna save so much freaking money you could pay for every one of our big events every year. Literally. Like, think about this, guys. I'm trying to provide you the vehicle with which you can afford to do this and have no excuse not to go. Because here's that, what's going to happen then? We're going to get you out to this event. You're going to meet Paul, you're going to meet Peter, you're gonna meet Street. Heck, you might even meet this kid. He'll still be single by the way, but you're gonna meet these guys at the event, and guess what? They're going to help you make a ton more money in your business, which then you can take that and the money you've saved and you can start investing in some real estate and build passive income so you can finally retire.
Austin Helixon
All right?
Michael
That being said, coaches, I'm going to give everybody one last shot to say whatever you want to say. So each of our coaches, we're going to go through each one. Paul, you get 30 seconds to give us your best tip before we wrap up. We're going to go Paul, then Peter, then Sharif, then Knuckle. I mean, Austin. So, Paul, you're first.
Paul
Believe in yourself. Improve yourself every day and just be the role model for everyone around you. Honestly, that's. It starts here. It starts with yourself, your heart, your mind, who you are as a person. Work on that first. Everything else will flow from there.
Michael
Sounds a lot like lead by example, right? Like, I love that. I'm huge on that. Good for you, Paul. I love that. Thank you for that, Peter. Here, you gotta unmute. There you go.
Peter
Yeah. I want to say it's very important to track, measure, and stay consistent with everything that you do. Real estate related. If it's dieting, if you're trying to build muscle, whatever it is, that's the key to anything, especially in real estate. If you're tracking what you're doing as far as cold calls, appointments, videos, how much is it doing, how many people is it reaching, what can you improve just a little bit? Then this is how you can increase whatever that you're trying to do and get a better outcome overall. Well, so make sure that you're tracking and measuring, and on top of that, staying consistent.
Michael
And by the way, in terms of tracking and measuring, Stat Tracker, baby club. Well, Stat Tracker, it's included with your coaching. And we got a bunch of coaching clients on right now, too. I gotta tell you guys, you're crazy if you're not using Stat Tracker. I was having a conversation with Jason Lash recently. Jason said that, and I fought him for two years. I fought him to get him to use Stat Tracker. He just pushed back, push back, push back. Finally he's like, dude, dude, I'm paying you all this money for coaching. I guess I better start using the tools you're giving me. He finally implements Stat Tracker, and literally in the first 60 days, he made it a requirement for everybody on his team. In the first 60 days of using Stat Tracker, they doubled the number of appointments they were setting per month. Literally immediately Began doubling the number of appointments set every month. Guys, you guys, you got to use stat tracker. Peter. Oh, whoa. Yeah, Sharif. Sorry, just throwing it out there. All right, you're next, Reef. Go ahead.
Sharif
I would tell you guys basically focus on building relationships. That's real estate. Stop focusing so much on the transactions, about the listings, about buyers. Just build relationships. Just talk to people. Remember, brought business. You want to build relationships on trust and just develop that. If you do that, the transactions in the business will come.
Michael
Love it. So agree with you. Love it.
Austin Helixon
All right, Austin, have as many face to face interactions as possible and make sure everybody's in your CRM. That there's many ways to go about getting those face to face interactions. Whether it's talking to FSBOs and setting appointments or doing open houses or your sphere of influence. Get everybody in your database, keep them in your CRM. And then that way you can utilize your database to a higher level and, and ultimately get those people to transact by following up with them, etc. But you have to stay and get organized first.
Michael
First. Love it. Great stuff. All right, guys, I'm going to give you two more options here real quick. First and foremost, before I forget, if you have not already done so, if you would like information about coaching with us, if you'd like to learn what it's like to have one of these guys as your coach or any one of our 65 plus coaches, all of whom sell more real estate than the people they coach, Right? So if you're in tier one, your coaches in tier two, if you're in tier two, your coaches in tier three and so forth. If you'd like more information about coaching with us, us, type in coaching in the chat and put your cell phone number along with it and I'll have one of our team members reach out to you and they'll just do a quick call with you and tell you what it's like coaching with us. So just type coaching into the chat with your cell phone number now and I will have someone reach out and we'll walk you through what that looks like for our group coaching, by the way. It's normally 97amonth, but if you sign up for group coaching within 30 minutes of the end of this webinar, which we're about to end right now. So within 30 minutes of the end of this webinar, if you sign our group coaching, you go to clubhealth.com actually tell you what you're gonna do. You're gonna go back to clubo.com on clubhouse. Com, bottom right hand corner, there's a chatbot link. You're gonna. You're gonna open up that chat. That's gonna put you into our br. Into a zoom call with my entire team. And they will get you signed up for that group coaching. We'll let you have it for $77 a month. By the way, those of you that sign up for Black Cat, we include the group coaching with black hat. I'm not even kidding you. You like, guys. It's a no brainer. All right, that being said, get that done right away. And what else am I forgetting?
Austin Helixon
It's 11:20 right now, so I'm just open up till noon.
Michael
So that's what we'll do. We'll give them till noon. All right, fine. You gave him an extra 10 minutes there.
Austin Helixon
You're welcome. Extra 10 minutes.
Michael
These kids always ask where you give a mouse a cookie, he's gonna ask for a glass of milk. I'm just telling you. All right, so that being said, guys, I want you also to do me a favor. Type in what is the number one thing that you learned today that you're going to implement no matter what. Matter what. Type it into your chat right now. The number one thing that you got out of today that you will implement no matter what. Why am I asking to type it in? Because doing so will help you remember at a deeper level. It'll also remind some other people on the call what they. What they brought to the value or, you know, what value they brought to the call and the things that they think, you know, other attendees may think, wow, I need to implement that as well. So type in your number one takeaway in the chat right now, guys. All right, Austin, have I forgotten thing?
Austin Helixon
I don't know. I don't think so.
Michael
Okay, coaches. All right, guys, listen, I'm excited. Cannot wait to see you guys all at listing agent boot camp. My biggest takeaway, the one thing that I'm going to tell you at the very, very least, no matter what you do, guys, you need to take something from this and you need to go implement it right now. That's how you're going to get the value out of. Because I got news for you. Knowledge without implementation is like rowing with one ore in the water. Water, guys, you just go around in circles and that's no fun. So get that one thing implemented and go out there and have your best week in a long, long time. Make it happen this week, guys. We can do it. Have an awesome day, everybody. We'll see at Listing agent boot camp. Thank you, coaches. Don't forget, guys, if you have referrals in these areas, send them to these guys. And if you know of a girl, we could use some help marrying this kid off. I'm just telling you. All right, guys, have an awesome day. Thank you so much, coaches. We'll see it Listening agent boot camp. Guys, take care. I'm staying on just because I see there's still people here. And so if anybody's got a question for me real quick while we're wrapping up, feel free to ask that question right now, and I'll just stay on as you guys are starting to log off. Coach Paul, you're. You're a stud, dude. I can't even begin to tell you how much I appreciate you. Have I told you that lately? Lately? I mean, I can't believe you lived through that harrowing experience with Austin. You're muted, bro.
Paul
Yeah, I. I. You haven't told me lately, but I certainly wouldn't get tired of hearing it. So thank you, Michael.
Michael
I love you, man. I mean that. I seriously do. I. Can I just tell you, next time that kid feels a vibration in the wheel, tell him to pull the freak out in the world.
Paul
I told him from when the moment we took off, from the moment we started driving, I was like, that ain't right.
Michael
And he kept driving. Yeah. He's like, oh, we'll figure it out. It'll be all right, right? Dude, you're lucky.
Paul
You have no idea how many times I was literally waiting for the wheel to come off.
Michael
Are you serious?
Paul
The second the wheel flew off the car and I said, and there it is. I didn't react. I didn't jump. All I literally. The second it flew up and there it is, because.
Michael
Oh, my gosh. That's hilarious. Sasha. He's using the chime dialer that's built in. Or lofty. Sorry, it's built into chime or lofty. Lofty. And so. Yes. So is it Carol? Is it Caroline? Hold on. I'm looking at. Who just typed that in. Caroline Mackin. Yeah. So they will reach out to you. What I'm doing is we're going to pull the notes from the call here in just a second. In fact, Caroline, if you're excited and you want to get signed up right now, just go to the clubwealth.com and click on that chat button lower right hand corner, and we'll. We'll have. We'll have you on a call with Sawyer right away way. And so just feel free to do that. I know he's making his outbound calls right now for the next 40 or 37 minutes. And so for that next 37 minutes, you won't be able to reach him. But, but we'll, we'll make sure after 12 o' clock, it's Pacific. They'll reach out, they'll go through and they'll figure out exactly who they need to call and get appointments set with you guys. So thank you for that, Ben. Dude, it still smells like weed. What the freak, man? Who lose, Ben? Get somebody out there to get rid of the weed smoker, man. If that's next door, we need to reach out to the construction company next door and tell them, look like we're sick of smelling your weed. Don't you hate that, Paul? It's like if I wanted to smoke weed, I'd smoke weed. I don't smoke weed for a reason. It makes you dumb. Sorry if you guys smoke weed. I'm just, you know, I'm just saying, like, I don't do drugs. I don't want to do drugs. I certainly don't want your second hand drugs. It's just you. We don't smell it here. Dude, I'm telling you, man, I'm smelling in here. Maybe it's right behind some of them.
Paul
Might be a little desensitized to it.
Michael
Well, yeah, right. Yeah, maybe you guys are, are just used to it over there. Dude, it's bad, Paul. I'm serious. I feel like I'm at a Grateful Dead concert or something. Dude, it's way bad. All right, I still, I see there's still 48 people on. I don't know if you guys are just waiting for us to say something intelligent or what, because I don't think there's much more intelligence coming out of either one of us right now. Right now.
Paul
But how about if you're dialing through your CRM, make sure it records as well.
Michael
Yes. Listening to those calls is so important. Huge.
Paul
That's. That'll be the, that'll be one of the biggest things to help you with your conversion percentage going forward or your conversion ratio. Listening to your calls, critiquing yourself, having someone else critique you. Yeah, the little tweaks can have a major impact on your conversion ratios.
Michael
I'll tell you what, man, the first time I listened to my team's calls, I. About Vomit Limited. I. I was so nauseous. It just, it was bad. It was like. It was, it was terrible. And, and it's funny because when you first Start listening to your own calls. You're going to be embarrassed yourself. Right? I mean, it's just. That's the way it is, guys. We all suck at it at first. And by the way, Carlin Lowry says she's nervous about going to hell week now with Austin's driving habits. I. I just have a few words for you, Carlin. Be afraid. Be very afraid. That's all I gotta say. All right?
Paul
If your life insurance policy isn't up to date, get that, get that going.
Michael
Now's the time. All right? That's a good excuse for getting into that health insurance too, right? Because you just never know you're gonna have to go in for a broken bone. All right, Sasha says, I have a question regarding refi and commercial loans. Does your daughter and help with those and can she do California? Yes to both. She does commercial loans, she does California. She does debt service coverage ratio loans. She does, does full on commercial building loans. She does everything, all the vanilla easy stuff everybody does. You know, the mom and pop buying a house. That stuff's easy. She does all that. But the, the harder stuff is where she really shines, right? The investor loans and the commercial stuff. And Sasha, that is a good question. How do I contact Madison? Well, you'd think I would know that. I just have her programmed in my phone. Hold on a second. Hang on one second, second. Hang on. Somebody grab Madison for me.
Paul
All right, I gotta get to my calls. Have a good day everyone.
Michael
Sounds good, brother. We'll see you later. Oh, look at that. Austin just put her cell phone number. Thank you, Austin. What a good brother, man. And by the way, his team uses her for all their loans too. And he just put her number in there. And so come on over here. So we've got some people that want to use you for their loans. Uh, there's, there's someone on Sasha Trunk Young wants to have you help her. And Sasha, why don't you put your cell phone number in the chat here. And what I'll do is I'll have Madison reach out to you there as well. But she's got a commercial loan in California she needs some help with. So Madison gets taken care of. She's the intelligent part of our family. The rest of us, we just pound the phones really hard. This one actually has a brain and knows what she's doing and we just do whatever she tells us to do. So yeah, there you go. And Madison, here, my cell phone number
Austin Helixon
but my office number so you can contact me.
Michael
Whole team is 253-352-4662, 2. I'm writing down Sasha's number. 8, 9, 3, what's. Okay, there we go. 9 6, 1, 7. Sasha. Okay, go give her a call. There you go. Or him. I don't know if that's Sasha guy or Sasha. I don't know which. Sasha. That is Sasha trunk. There you go. It's Sasha. Go give Sasha a call right now. All right, There you go. She's. She's calling you right now. Sasha. She. Your. Your phone's about to ring. All right, anybody else have any questions for me before we have my pleasure? Absolutely. And thank you for using Madison. Really appreciate that. You know, obviously, I like seeing my kids do well, and she does all of my loans, and my stuff's complicated. I mean, I got. Dude, you can't imagine my tax returns and all that. Like, everything about my world is like, I got so many properties and so much going on with different loans and all the tax return stuff and all this. And she gets it. She understands all that. And I'll tell you what, man, most lenders, they look at my file and they get a headache and they run the other way. She. They can't do it. But she gets that stuff at a deep level, and that's really hard to find. We got really, really, really, really lucky having a daughter that. That really gets this stuff. I mean, that's. I'm not gonna lie. That's a. That's a definite advantage for our family. So. By the way, those of you that are interested, I know we've only got a few people left on here. I should have mentioned this before. If you're interested in investing in real estate. Estate, and you're maybe in your area, her number is 206-940-0584. And again, I'll give you that one more time. 206-94-0-0584. Let me just copy this and paste it down here. Now this. Just this. There's a better number to call her at. There you go, Ben. Just put it in there. I don't remember what that better number is, but there's. There's the one that goes to all of her team members at the same time. So, like, when you are teeing up clients, like, he'll say. Say you want to refer a client to her. You want them to call the number she'll give you because it'll ring all of her team's phones at the same time. So no matter what, you're going to get somebody on the phone with your client immediately. That's really, really important, guys. Anyway, that being said, those of you that want to invest in real estate, let me just tell you about this. Since I got 40 of you on here, still you might find this interesting. We make a boatload of money investing in real estate. That's, that's where I make most of my money. And when I say most, I mean we make it in a very big way and very conservatively. We're very careful about how we invest in real estate. Everything I buy, I buy on the 1% rule. So if I buy it for 500, 000, it rents out for 5,000amonth. I have long term institutional tenants in all my houses. Essentially what that means is that my tenants are picked out before we even close on the house. Once we close on the house, we, we do, we do everything. We, we have these people in there for years and years and years and years and years and years and years and even decades. And, and so what I would recommend is if you're in an area where you can't get great numbers on rentals, like West Coast, east coast, it's hard to make the rental properties work very well. It's hard to make them cash flow. But I buy mostly in the Midwest and I've got great contacts, all the agents I got across the Midwest there that help identify deals for me. And so if you want to just partner with me, maybe you just say, hey, Michael, you know, I got some money, I'd like to put up the money, and you go do all the work and we'll split the profit. Profits. Perfect. That's what I do. So. And if you're thinking not why would I give up half my profit, well, great, go do it yourself. I'd rather have you do yourself anyway. That's awesome. But if what you want is you want me to find the properties, you want me to rehab the properties, you want me to do all the negotiations on them, you want me to find the tenants, you want me to manage the tenants, you want me to do everything. Soup to nuts. You want me taking that midnight phone call. I see me, my team and I taking that midnight phone call for the clogged toilet and that sort of thing. Thing. Great, we'll do all the work, a hundred percent of the work. All you do is put up the down payment. We do everything else, we split the profits. And I'll tell you, my partners and I make a ton of money doing this. I mean a lot of money. So love to do that with you if you're interested in doing that, put invest in the chat, or I'm sorry, not invest. Put partner. Put partner in the chat. Type the word partner in the chat and, and I'll have Tara, my wife, will reach out to you and she'll tell you when we have our next partner call and we'll, we'll make an happen.
Peter
We'll.
Michael
We'll get you on a partner call, which is where all our existing partners and some of our newer ones that want to partner with us jump on that call and we teach you how the process works, and we'll see if there's a good fit there. We're pretty picky about the partners we take on, and the reason for that is because there's only so many deals to go around. Like this week, we've got three deals that we're putting together this week. One of them's already signed around yesterday, and we've got probably two more that'll, that'll get signed around this week, but that's it. And I'll probably take down two of those myself, and we'll partner on one of them. And so anyway, if you're interested in partnering with us on Reynolds, go ahead and put that information in there. Anybody else have any questions or anything for me? Anyone at all? I still see we got a bunch of people still on here. I'm just trying. I'm just sticking around just because I want to make sure I answer your questions and bring as much value to you as I can while I'm here, so. All right, well, that being said, guys, I'm not seeing any other questions, so I'm going to wish you guys all a wonderful day and we'll hopefully see all at listing agent boot camp. Take care, everybody.
87%. Yeah. That's the percentage of all real estate agents that get in the business today that'll be gone in two years. Let me tell you something. Why is there so much turnover in real estate? Because it isn't easy and because most people don't know exactly what they need to do to get to the next level. And they're looking, regardless of whether you're brand new to the industry or you or you're a team leader, you've got 40 people on your team, and you just want to get to the next level. If you're doing 10 transactions a year, you want to get to 25, you're doing 500 transactions a year, you want to get to a thousand, you're at a thousand, you want to get to 10,000. Let me tell you something. You need the right coach.
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Host: Michael Hellickson
Guest: Coach Austin Hellickson
Air Date: April 2, 2024
This dynamic episode dives deep into what separates high-achieving agents from the 87% who wash out of the real estate industry within two years. Host Michael Hellickson, a renowned real estate coach, brings on his son, Coach Austin Hellickson, who—at just 21 years old—has already listed more than 220 homes in two years. Together, they break down the systems, habits, and lead sources that drive explosive growth, with hands-on discussions about social media, SEO, and the practical daily actions behind consistent listing and closing success. The episode also weaves in tactical advice from fellow Club Wealth coaches and audience Q&A.
87% of agents leave within 2 years.
"Why is there so much turnover in real estate? Because it isn’t easy and because most people don’t know exactly what they need to do to get to the next level."
— Michael (00:02)
Importance of coaching and strategy at every level:
Whether you’re a new agent or running a mega-team, you need a coach and growth strategy.
Austin’s Rapid Rise:
In two years, Austin has listed 220+ homes (97 in year one, 123 in year two), nearly hitting $1 million in GCI.
Willingness to travel far (even 9+ hours) for listings, regardless of price point:
"I've seen him go as far as nine and a half hours one way...Had to go all the way down to another state and back up into Washington to get to a listing appointment...You’ve got to be willing to travel further."
— Michael (03:00)
No listing is too small:
Austin does appointments as far as 3–4 hours away for properties as low as $100–250K.
Importance of grit and persistence, even when listings don’t convert immediately.
Referral Exchange — (05:10)
List with Clever — (05:59)
“Free” Lead Sources — (07:56)
Cash Offer Lead Sources (“Leads Like Candy,” ZBuyer, and GeoPoint Data) — (09:13–12:21)
New Agent Tip: Start With Low-Cost/Free Sources
Driving Traffic and Pixeling for Retargeting
Brokerage Website ≠ Personal Brand Website
If you’re new and have little sphere business:
If you’re just starting:
“If I’m brand new, I’d be holding open houses every single day...open houses are performing better than they have in the last decade.” — Michael (19:48)
Believe and Lead by Example
“It starts with yourself, your heart, your mind, who you are...” — Paul (38:02)
Track, Measure, Stay Consistent
“Track what you do. Cold calls, appointments, videos…then you can improve.” — Peter (38:30)
Relationship First
“Focus on building relationships, not transactions. The business will come.” — Sharif (39:54)
Face-to-Face + CRM Utilization
“Have as many face-to-face interactions as possible AND make sure everyone’s in your CRM.” — Austin (40:21)
“If this kid can list 220 homes in two years…you can do it. You’ve just got to be willing to change a few things.”
— Michael (04:17)
“Many people say, ‘oh, that lead source sucks.’ No, you freaking suck. Watch this—Austin, how do you do with leads like candy?”
— Michael (09:13)
“If they say they already have an agent, what’s the harm in trying if they say no anyways? Practice your scripts, get better…”
— Austin (26:43)
“Knowledge without implementation is like rowing with one oar in the water…you just go around in circles.”
— Michael (43:10)
"Take something from this and IMPLEMENT it right now. Knowledge without action is like rowing with one oar—just going in circles."
— Michael (43:10)
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Coach Austin’s team covers all of Washington State—referrals welcome!
This episode offers a playbook for agents who want to break the cycle of average and step squarely into the top-performing minority in real estate. The blueprint: systems, hustle, and a focus on relationships, backed by rigorous tracking and modern digital tactics.