Natalee Holloway: Vanished in Paradise

Summary

Clues with Morgan Absher & Kaelyn Moore

Episode: "Natalee Holloway: Vanished in Paradise"

Release Date: December 10, 2025

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Main Theme & Purpose

In this episode, hosts Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore revisit the notorious disappearance of Natalee Holloway, the 18-year-old American who vanished during a high school graduation trip to Aruba in 2005. Nearly two decades later, the case remains infamous for its unresolved mysteries, the international media frenzy, and its shocking recent developments—culminating in a confession from chief suspect Joran van der Sloot. The hosts analyze forensic details, timeline inconsistencies, investigative blunders, and the impact on both the Holloway family and broader true crime landscape.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Natalee Holloway’s Disappearance – Timeline & Context

• Background:

  • Natalee, an exemplary student from Alabama, vanished on May 29, 2005, on her last night in Aruba during a school trip.
  • The trip comprised 124 seniors and only seven adult chaperones—raising parental concerns in hindsight.
  • Aruba, a Dutch Caribbean island, was regarded as relatively safe, allaying some of the family's initial worries.

• The Last Night:

  • After a night out (including a Lauryn Hill/Boyz II Men concert and partying at Carlos’n Charlie’s bar), Natalee was last seen leaving in a small gray/silver car with Joran van der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe.
  • Initially, friends weren’t alarmed by her absence, given the group’s informal rooming and party culture.
  • Panic set in only the next morning when Natalee missed the group airport rendezvous and her belongings remained untouched in her room.

• Immediate Family Response:

  • Natalee’s mother, Beth Twitty, rushed to Aruba on a private jet, arriving within 24 hours to spearhead the search.
  • The family’s urgency was met by what they describe as an indifferent or sluggish police response.

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2. Investigative Missteps & Local Law Enforcement Issues

• Delayed Action:

  • Authorities waited three days before officially investigating, missing the crucial 48-hour period ("The first 48 hours is crucial"—Morgan, 17:57).
  • Beth recounted that Detective Dennis Jacobs delayed taking her statement, prioritizing breakfast over urgency.

• Initial Suspects:

  • Early focus was misplaced on two local security guards, believed to be scapegoats following Joran’s misleading statements.

• Culture Clash:

  • Tension between the Holloways and Aruban officials escalated, aggravated by public perception and Beth’s media campaigns, with some feeling she was “killing Aruba” (Charles Cruz, 43:10).

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3. Evidence, Theories, and Public Pressure

• Key Suspects:

  • Joran van der Sloot quickly became the prime suspect, with unflattering local rumors about him “preying on female tourists” (Beth, via hotel worker, 12:40).

• Shifting Stories:

  • Joran’s accounts changed repeatedly—from dropping Natalee at her hotel with help from a security guard, to leaving her passed out on a beach alone, then later claiming her accidental death or even selling her into sexual slavery.
  • Each iteration undermined his credibility and further complicated the investigation.

• FBI Psychological Profile:

  • Joran exhibited “great superficial charm” paired with cold bloodedness and explosiveness when rejected, paralleling traits seen in murderers and serial killers (Profiler Mary Ellen O’Toole, 32:02: “He did have some traits that I’m used to that I’ve worked with before. He was very glib and charming...”).

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4. Major Clues and Dead Ends

• Gardener’s Testimony:

  • A tip about Joran and the Kalpoe brothers at a vacant lot led to a fruitless pond search.

• Lobster Trap Theory:

  • A plausible theory emerged involving a stolen metal lobster trap, possibly used to weigh down Natalee’s body at sea—a search that, years later, also failed to yield evidence.

• Hidden Camera ‘Confession’:

  • 2008 Dutch sting operation caught Joran confessing that Natalee died with him and was disposed of at sea:
    “She’ll never be found.” (Joran, 53:36)
  • Later retracted as “just high and telling his friend what he wanted to hear.”

• Extortion Plot:

  • Joran attempted to sell information about Natalee’s remains to Beth Holloway for $250,000 in 2010, providing a false lead, later admitting the tip was worthless—resulting in federal extortion charges.

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5. Joran van der Sloot & Stephanie Flores — A Tragic Coda

• Murder in Peru:
  • Joran murdered Peruvian student Stephanie Flores in 2010 in a Lima hotel, providing overwhelming evidence of his capacity for violence.
  • He was sentenced to 28 years in Peru (“At this point, Joran pretty quickly confessed to killing Stephanie, claiming that he did it in a rage…” — 66:41).
  • This killing solidified public opinion of his guilt in Natalee’s case and made extradition more likely.

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6. Media’s Role & Family Trauma

• Beth’s Media Advocacy:
  • Beth Holloway leveraged international media to pressure Aruban authorities, at times straining relationships.
• Sensational Coverage:
  • Media outlets profited from the story, sometimes to exploitative effect (Oxygen’s 2018 docuseries featured planted animal bones, 72:31), causing added distress.

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7. Case Closure: Confession & Aftermath (2023)

• Extradition to the US:

  • In 2023, Peru agreed to temporarily extradite Joran van der Sloot for US prosecution on wire fraud and extortion.

• Plea Deal and Formal Confession:

  • In exchange for a concurrent sentence and leniency, Joran confessed to Natalee’s 2005 murder:

    "Natalee rejected Joran’s attempts to have sex with her. He then attempted to sexually assault her. Natalee fought back, kneeing Joran in the crotch with all of her strength…Joran kicked Natalee in the face...grabbed a cinder block...and used it to smash her head in...He dragged her body into the ocean and pushed her in."
    — (Official confession summary, 75:33)

• Statute of Limitations:

  • Aruba’s homicide limitations had expired, precluding formal murder charges.

• Family’s Response:

  • Beth:

    “Today I can tell you with certainty that after 18 years, Natalee’s case, it’s solved. As far as I’m concerned, it’s over…For me, reaching the end of the nightmare being over is better than closure...”
    — (Beth Holloway, 77:08)

  • Victim impact statement:

    “You terminated her potential, her dreams, and her possibilities. When you bludgeoned her to death...”
    — (Beth Holloway, statement excerpt, 77:26)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Media Sensationalism & Local Backlash:

  “They’re killing Aruba. That girl Natalie, I wish she’d stayed home. I hope she’s found alive because no one would care. No one. The kid is just not worth all this trouble, this heartache. Is Natalie worth it? Is she?”
  — Charles Cruz (43:10)

• On the Investigation’s Delays:

  “The three days thing is absolutely absurd. We all know the first 48 hours is crucial.”
  — Morgan Absher (17:57)

• On Joran’s Personality:

  “He did have some traits that I’m used to that I’ve worked with before. He was very glib and charming.”
  — Profiler Mary Ellen O’Toole (32:02)

• Joran Confessing on Hidden Camera:

  “She’ll never be found.”
  — Joran van der Sloot (53:36)

• Beth’s Closure:

  “After 18 years, Natalee’s case, it’s solved. As far as I’m concerned, it’s over.”
  — Beth Holloway (77:08)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment / Topic | |-------------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 04:05 | Natalee’s Last Day & Night in Aruba | | 10:37 | Family’s Arrival and First “Clue” (Joran identified) | | 17:04 | Delayed police action; key missed opportunities | | 25:34 | Arrest of two security guards and subsequent criticism | | 28:39 | Dutch legal system (no plea bargains, one-judge cases) | | 29:35 | Joran and Kalpoe brothers’ shifting stories | | 31:43 | FBI profiling Joran; disturbing traits emerge | | 43:10 | Charles Cruz’s pointed quote regarding Aruba | | 53:36 | Hidden camera confession: “She’ll never be found.” | | 56:38 | Joran’s wild claims about sex trafficking plot | | 62:34 | Stephanie Flores’ murder and investigation in Peru | | 75:33 | Joran’s 2023 confession to Natalee’s murder | | 77:08 | Beth Holloway’s statement of closure | | 77:26 | Beth’s victim impact statement excerpt |

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Overall Tone and Language

The hosts combine careful forensic and investigative analysis with empathy for the Holloways and frustration at repeated investigative failures, maintaining a mixture of clinical insight and candid emotional response. They’re critical of law enforcement’s missteps, highlight the impact of sensationalist media, and express admiration for the Holloway family’s persistence.

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Conclusion

“Vanished in Paradise” provides a comprehensive, empathetic, and critical look at a true crime case that captured (and often frustrated) the world. Morgan and Kaelyn thread together decades of missed leads, media spectacle, and legal wrangling, culminating in a harrowing confession that finally offered Natalee’s family an ending—if not the kind of closure they once sought.

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Transcript

[Kayla Moore]

Foreign.

[Morgan Abshur]

This is Crime House.

[Kayla Moore]

Today we're going to cover the mysterious disappearance of an 18 year old aspiring doctor named Natalie Holloway. Natalie vanished during her high school graduation trip to Aruba in 2005 and her family has been fighting for justice ever since.

[Morgan Abshur]

The international search for Natalee was one of the biggest news stories of 2005, garnering worldwide attention while also sparking plenty of controversy. Nearly 20 years later, shocking developments brought Natalee's name back into the headlines while leaving some of the case's biggest questions still unanswered.

Hi guys. Welcome back to Clues, where we sneak past the crime scene tape to explore the key evidence behind some of the most gripping true crime cases. Also, are you subscribed? Make sure you subscribe. Wherever you are, subscribe Give it a peek.

[Kayla Moore]

I'm Kayla Moore. I'm gonna be the one digging deeper into the timelines, the backstories and the court files related to these cases.

[Morgan Abshur]

And I'm your Internet sleuth Morgan Abshur. I'm gonna be the one who's diving into Reddit forums and other rabbit holes I find online, hitting my head a few times on the way down and then seeing what is just not adding up.

[Kayla Moore]

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[Morgan Abshur]

This is a big one. This is actually One of the cases that I do remember, you guys, I do remember seeing this in tabloids as it was happening at the grocery store for months. For months. And this was, I mean, 2005 was still a really, like, big time in the U.S. like, I saw one, like, headline on this case that this case got more attention in the news than the war in Iraq.

[Kayla Moore]

Isn't that wild? I know, I read that too, when we were researching for this episode and I couldn't believe it, but it was everywhere. It was everywhere. Everywhere, Everywhere, everywhere.

[Morgan Abshur]

And I think, I mean, her family fought so hard for justice and really made sure Natalie's story was getting out there.

[Kayla Moore]

Definitely. And you said that you really fell down the rabbit hole on this one.

[Morgan Abshur]

I got bumped up hard.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah. So I'm gonna be asking you a lot of questions about that kind of as we go because I think you're gonna know a lot about this that maybe I haven't seen.

[Morgan Abshur]

I have a lot of weird tidbits I'm gonna be throwing in.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah.

[Morgan Abshur]

Apologies in advance.

[Kayla Moore]

Good. And just a quick reminder, if you're watching this episode on YouTube, you're going to see some photos and images and maps and stuff that will help you visualize this case. And if you're listening, you can find all of those same assets on our social media. That's at Clues Podcast.

[Morgan Abshur]

And a quick content warning. This episode contains brief but graphic descriptions of attempted sexual assault and murder. Please listen with care.

[Kayla Moore]

All right, so we're going to start the story on Sunday, May 29, 2005. 18 year old Natalee Holloway is soaking up her last 24 hours on the island of Aruba. She's on her high school's unofficial graduation trip. She's accompanied by 124 fellow graduating seniors and seven adult chaperones from Birmingham, Alabama. This is a trip her high school does every year for their seniors. And if you were going to let your 18 year old go anywhere to party, Aruba seems like a good place to stay. It's a Dutch constituent. It's 20 miles long. It's about the same size as Washington, D.C. and at the time that this all took place, the homicide rate was similar to that of the United States. So when Natalie went off on her trip, her mom wasn't necessarily all that worried about her. Natalie was a great student. She was a really good kid. She followed the rules. She rarely got into trouble. And this trip started out the exact same. Along with most of her graduating class, Natalie spent the first three days mostly at the beach, at the pool she hung out by the hotel casino a little bit. The legal age for drinking and gambling in Aruba is only 18 years old. So the students, when they were there, I mean, like we did on our senior trip too, to Spain, they were like taking full advantage of that. That Sunday is Natalie's last day in paradise. It starts with a concert on the beach featuring Lauryn Hill, Boyz II Men. Then the party moves to the casino before heading over to Carlos and Charlie's, which is a Mexican themed chain bar and restaurant that's about a five to ten minutes drive off of hotel property in Oranjestad, Aruba. There's a photo that was captured during the night of Natalie dancing. She has this really blissful expression on her face. And after the bar closes that night, Natalie and a friend, Jessica Kiola, grab some street food outside before they head back to their hotel, the Holiday Inn. They're both a little tipsy from a night of partying. And that's when Jessica turns around and sees that Natalie is darting off. She's getting into what Jessica would describe as a white car, and that was later identified as either a gray Honda or a silver Nissan. At the time, Jessica thinks that Natalie must have found someone to give her a ride back to the hotel. Over the course of their trip, they'd learned that taxis are pretty hard to get in Aruba, especially after the bar is closed. So Jessica doesn't really blame her for taking the ride. And everyone who knows Natalie knows that she's a responsible person. So Jessica just figures she'll see Natalie back at the hotel and doesn't really think about it more than that. However, Natalie doesn't make it back to her room that night. Her roommates at the time didn't necessarily find it strange. Students in the group had been spending nights in each other's room the whole trip. They would sometimes party or just hang out, whatever. And in fact, the group had been having such a good time that the hotel had already decided that the school was not welcome back the following year. Natalie's absence, that's to say, doesn't really sound any alarms in the moment. That is, until the following morning when it's time for the group to head back to the airport and go home. The plan for everyone was to meet at the Holiday inn lobby before 10am so all the students could head back to the airport for their flight. Natalie, however, is a no show and that is very strange for her because she's never late to anything. When the chaperones go back and check her room they see that her passport and her suitcase are there, but Natalie is not. And that's when the chaperones call her mother Beth back in the United States. And the instant that Beth hears that Natalie didn't Show, she calls 911. And then later, the FBI. While all of the other students head home, one of the chaperones decides that they're going to stay behind in Aruba, thinking that maybe she got lost or she was out that night, whatever. Like at some point she's going to come back and apologize for being late for this flight. But that, as we know, is not going to be the case because Natalie is never seen alive again. Now just a little bit of backstory on Natalie's family kind of leading up to this. When Natalie was around 7, her parents, Beth and Dave got a divorce. It seems like her parents didn't necessarily both agree on her going on this trip. In general, Dave, her dad, thought that a nearly $1,000 trip was a little much for an 18 year old. He was also concerned. We kind of mentioned this in the beginning, but there was a very low ratio of chaper to students. It was about seven chaperones to 124 students, which is.

[Morgan Abshur]

The kids are really outnumbering the chaperones.

[Kayla Moore]

Really outnumbering them, yes.

[Morgan Abshur]

Especially Aruba. Yeah, it's close.

[Kayla Moore]

It's a foreign country.

[Morgan Abshur]

Still A foreign country.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah.

[Morgan Abshur]

And they're all partying like they're going out. That's why they go there. So I, I get it.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah. Beth, on the other hand, though, felt like her teenager deserved a vacation. She had maintained this 4.15 GPA the entire school year. She had received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She was going there to be pre med. Beth believed that this trip was actually going to be good for Natalie. It was something that Natalie wanted to do more of. She wanted to travel. Plus she would be, in theory, surrounded by her peers, even some adults, even though it wasn't a lot of adults. So to Beth, this trip felt relatively low risk. And eventually, it seems like her dad allowed her to go on this trip as well. He even gave Natalie half of the cost of the vacation as a graduation gift. He tried to not worry too much about the kind of trouble that she might get into while she was there. But he never expected that he was going to have to go to the island himself to look for his missing daughter. Now, when Beth got the news that Natalie was missing, she was in Hot Springs, Arkansas. After she learned that news, she raced back to Birmingham, where she had a friend of the family who actually was able to arrange a private jet for her to go to Aruba and search herself. In 2000, Beth married a man named George Twitty, who goes by Jug. He was a big wig in Birmingham. He worked in the Alabama metals industry, actually, so he had some pretty good connections, and that was what was able to allow him to, like, get this private jet. Beth and Jug took two of their friends who they thought would be helpful in the search, but they left one seat open on the plane because they were pretty confident that they were gonna go get Natalie and bring her back. They landed in aruba at around 10pm that same night. It was May 30, 2005, less than 12 hours after everyone realized that Natalie was missing. And now their plan was they were going to get whatever information they could on Natalie's possible whereabouts and get help from the local authorities in finding her.

[Morgan Abshur]

So Beth and Jug did speak with the Reuben police when they landed there that night, but they felt that the response wasn't what they expected. Police didn't appear to be as concerned or moving fast enough for the Twitties. But, hey, they're there in Aruba, so they're going to go try to find out anything they can and find Natalie. They weren't going to just sit idly by, so they started doing their own digging. Pretty much immediately, they came across clue number one, the final sightings of Natalee. Some of Natalee's classmates, who are now back home in Alabama, told the family that they saw Natalie talking to a cute, tall Dutch guy before her disappearance. Now, this didn't necessarily mean that the guy was a tourist. A lot of Dutch families actually live in Aruba because the island is a part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Some of the kids said that they had spotted him in that car that Natalie got into outside of Carlos and Charlie's, along with two other guys that none of them did recognize. The Dutch teen seemed to be around the same age as all of the Mountain Brook students and had kind of been hanging out around this group all week. In fact, a lot of the students had been gossiping about which one of them is gonna hook up with him. But not everyone was impressed by this guy. One student on the trip, Brian Reynolds, remembered the Dutch guy nearly getting into a fight with one of his friends, and Brian actually had to break it up. And this was just a few hours before Natalie vanished. Brian also remembered that night that before the fight, the Dutch teen was talking to Natalie. And so Beth and Jug know that they, they have to find this guy right away. Luckily, Jug had a nephew on the trip who remembered the Dutch teen introducing himself as Joran during a game of poker at the hotel casino. So Beth asked a hotel employee if she knew a tall Dutch teenager named Joran who hung around the casino. And not only did the employee recognize the description, she knew his full name. He's a regular Joran Van der Sloot, a 17 year old local. And according to Beth, she shared something troubling saying, quote, he tends to prey upon young female tourists.

[Kayla Moore]

So after Beth gets this tip, she really focused on finding this guy Joran. They convince a manager at the casino to show them the security footage of Urine's last poker game. They think that this will show them what he, exactly what he looks like. And they can see in this footage that he has short brown hair, these thick low eyebrows, dark eyes, and what seems to be a permanent smirk on his face. It was around this time that Beth also met up with the Aruban entrepreneur Charles Cruz, who offers to help search for Joran. Charles knew where to find all the local teenagers. They often hung out at this nearby lighthouse where they would drink, hook up, watch the waves. And there Charles found a group of teens who said that they knew Joran and even showed Charles where Joran lived in the town called Nord, about five minutes away. Charles then called Beth and told her to meet him at the police department in Nord. They should get the police involved if they're going to confront this guy.

[Morgan Abshur]

And this first meeting is actually our second clue. Beth and Jug, along with some friends and the Aruban police, go to the Vander Sloot home in Nord. That night, Yen's father, 53 year old palace Vander Sloot, answers the door. And palace is an attorney, an aspiring judge in Aruba, while Y's mother Anita teaches art. Palace says that Joran isn't home, but he brings the group to where he thought they could find him, a nearby Wyndham casino. But what's weird, Joran isn't there either. And so they go back to the Van Der Sloot house. And now Joran's mysteriously home. All of a sudden he's there with a friend, 21 year old Deepak Kalpo. And when questioned, Joran initially denies even knowing Natalie or recognizing her name. But eventually Joran changes his tune and admits that he was with Natalie Sunday night, the evening she was last seen. And here's the story he tells. According to him, after they met at the hotel casino where Natalie was staying. Natalee invited him to Carlos and Charlie's. Later, he got a ride there from Deepak and Deepak's 18 year old brother, Satish Kalpo. Joran said that Natalie got very drunk and was aggressively coming on to him. And after the bar closed, she wasn't ready to go back to her hotel and wanted to drive around with Joran. So they all piled into the Kalpoe brothers car. They drove towards the lighthouse and parked and Joran said that Natalee performed oral sex on him in the car. After that, Joran insisted that he took Natalee back to her hotel. He even watched as she fell over drunk, stumbling back into the lobby. But no, he didn't get out and help her because he saw a security guard assisting her. So he left. After this statement, Joran agreed to go to the Holiday Inn with Beth and Jug and said that he would even point out the security guard that he saw helping Natalee. But when they got there, Joran couldn't find the guard. And things at this point started to get really intense. And according to one source I saw, Paulus just ends the interrogation. I mean, he's a lawyer, aspiring judge. He knows that they can't keep harassing him like this. There's a lot of legal analysts that even say that this is a botched moment if you want to have one. Like Natalee's family probably shouldn't have been there during an interrogation of a potential suspect. And so Paulus ends this. He basically alludes to, hey, no body, no case. Now, Beth finds this pretty suspicious, but she can't do anything about it. She's going to need the police to officially open an investigation. So after a first exhaustive night of searching, her and Jug head back to their hotel at around 5am with plans to meet the police in just a few hours. She feels confident that as soon as they hear her story, the police are to pick Yorin up and really interrogate him officially.

[Kayla Moore]

But as we know, Yorin wasn't questioned the next morning. And there's a few different versions as to why that was so. Multiple sources that are close to this case, including members of law enforcement, confirmed that the Aruban police did not open a missing persons investigation until three days after Natalie disappeared. The Twitties say that the police initially didn't seem to care very much about finding Natalee. Beth even recalled how there was this one local detective named Dennis Jacobs who insisted on having a bowl of Frosted Flakes before he even took her statement down.

[Morgan Abshur]

Extremely rude.

[Kayla Moore]

So rude. No rush at all. Natalie's dad, Dave, who arrived on the island that morning of June 1, said that when he went to the police to ask about Natalie, that same detective, Dennis Jacobs, flat out asked him, how much money do you have? And I see you picking up the botched.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah, there's a botched in here somewhere. I mean, the three days thing is absolutely, absolutely absurd. We all know the first 48 hours is crucial.

[Kayla Moore]

And then straight up asking the dad, how much money?

[Morgan Abshur]

How much money do you have?

[Kayla Moore]

What do you mean?

[Morgan Abshur]

That'll make us move faster.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah. Beth and Dave agreed that the police seemed to just think Natalie was off partying somewhere. Maybe she left her group and she's still, like, having this big party and she's going to be back at some point. But the authorities told a very different version of the story. They were not going to admit that that's what they were thinking. They said that they agreed with the Holloways from the beginning that Joran and the Kalpos were suspects, but they were just trying to do the smart thing by waiting for them to slip up instead of arresting them right away. They hoped that this would somehow lead them to Natalie. The Aruba police claimed that starting on the third day of Natalie's disappearance, Joran and the cowpo's phones were tapped, their emails were monitored, and they were surveilled everywhere they went. Now, whichever version of events is actually correct, Beth and Dave decided that they were just going to search the whole island for Natalee themselves. They didn't want to sit and wait 48 hours for the police to start searching.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah, and this is where you do get a lot of the he said, she said of it all. Like, one of the main detectives on this case said that, like, no, they came in guns blazing and even threatened to burn the place down if Natalee wasn't returned. And so that really rubbed them the wrong way. But at the same time, how can you not expect that out of two worried parents?

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, at this time, Beth and Jug start pursuing really another theory. They think that there's a chance Natalie was drugged at the bar and then maybe kidnapped by someone involved in the drug trade. It had been mentioned to them that there were a lot of dealers in the area who could have either sold drugs to Natalie directly or to Urine who drugged her. They started visiting houses where illegal drugs were sold, and they would offer between five and a hundred dollars for people to give them information. But all of the tips that they got went nowhere. A group of about a Hundred concerned locals even gathered to help search them. On June 2, the day that they finally officially opened the investigation, there was a55,000 reward for information leading to her return. And that was a lot of money at the time. Meanwhile, the rest of the world starts taking notice of this case as well. Natalie's photo starts being plastered all over the news. And I'm sure it's the one that you guys have seen as well. It's her high school photo. Very nice headshot of her. And it's everywhere, all over the news. That's the one that you were talking about. Was being shared more than images of, like Iraq. In her dad's words, quote, Natalie had become everybody's child. Foreign.

[Morgan Abshur]

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Then on Sunday, June 5, which is nearly a week after Natalie was last seen, Police picked up two former hotel security guards, 30 year old Nick John and 28 year old Abraham Jones. These two men denied that they had ever seen Natalee but they had worked for a hotel near the Holiday Inn where Natalee stayed. Their work contracts ended the day before Natalie vanished. They were picked up because the police decided that they were now suspects in this case. In Aruba, suspects don't have to be charged with a crime until 116 days after an arrest takes place. Unless a judge finds that there's not enough evidence to hold them longer without charges. So these two security guards do get arrested, but they're not officially charged with a crime just yet. The police also don't necessarily reveal why they arrested these two guys either. Their lawyer told the media that the arrests seem to be based on very vague witness statements about seeing Natalie get helped by two security guards at her hotel, which, I mean, now we can assume came from Yorin. They took him for his word. Yeah.

[Morgan Abshur]

And you're gonna trust him? The last person to see her.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah.

[Morgan Abshur]

Versus two random security guards who did not even work at her hotel. Yes. And their contract ended the day before she went missing.

[Kayla Moore]

Right. They did not work at that Holiday Inn.

[Morgan Abshur]

Right.

[Kayla Moore]

And this made Beth furious. She felt like police were looking in all the wrong places and also just taking ridiculous tips and running with them. So she decided she was going to speak her mind. Beth began giving TV interviews, openly accusing the Aruban government of covering for the Vandersloot family because of Palace's high ranking status as a lawyer on the island. And also, it seemed like Joran had some sort of impunity before Natalie even arrived in aruba. See, at 17, he wasn't old enough to legally drink or legally gamble. Yet everyone in Nord, police included, seemed to know that he was a regular at these bars and casinos. No one did anything about it.

[Morgan Abshur]

The person at the hotel knew exactly who Beth was talking about, as she described him.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah, and immediately is like, you should also know that he preys on young female tourists.

[Morgan Abshur]

He's got a reputation.

[Kayla Moore]

Everyone knows this guy's a problem. And the Holloways are now starting to realize this too. And they believed that by putting pressure on the tourist dependent Aruba through the US news cycles, that that's the only way to get Natalie's case solved. Because remember, tourism is a huge industry there. So if they start making the tourism industry look really bad, that's, that's not good for Aruba. So they think that this plan will at least help put some pressure on them. They wanted basically the whole island to feel this pressure. Now, the same day that the two security guards were arrested, June 5, 2005, Aruba requested help from FBI diving teams to help search for Natalie offshore. They felt like maybe it was possible something had happened to Natalie and maybe her body had been left out at sea. The government also announced thousands of civil service workers would be let off work early on Monday, June 6 to join in a massive search for Natalie. So it did seem like the pressure was actually producing results.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah, the whole country kind of came together in helping, providing rewards.

[Kayla Moore]

Yes, yes, they really showed up. A big, big effort. Now, whether it was because they wanted to help or because they felt this pressure, who knows? But ultimately a lot of people came out to help. And then on Wednesday, June 9, that's 10 days after Natalee vanished, all three of the prime suspects, that is 17 year old Joran van der Sloot, 21 year old Deepak Kalpoe and 18 year old Satish Kalpoe, they're all arrested. But there was a problem. Police didn't have enough evidence to charge any of them with Natalie's disappearance. And without evidence, the clock was ticking. It would only be a matter of time until they were released. And there's another interesting detail that we found here, but plea bargains don't exist in the Dutch legal system. So you couldn't even get one of them to take a deal. Like maybe they could give some implicating information in exchange for being let go, but that wasn't an option.

[Morgan Abshur]

I'd love for people to chime in if you're familiar with the Dutch system or like Aruba, but from what I could see, like there's also only a one judge panel that decides over a case. And again, guilt has to be beyond reasonable doubt.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah, and that makes me nervous that if his dad was already this like high status lawyer and training to be a judge. Aspiring judge, aspiring judge. And all of this rests on the, the opinion of one judge. Like already the justice system seems like it's not going to work in this case.

[Morgan Abshur]

It would have been tough.

[Kayla Moore]

So all the police could really do was question them repeatedly, hoping to get just something incriminating out of them. And under interrogation, all three suspects did change their story about what happened that night with Natalie, but they all changed it to the same new story.

[Morgan Abshur]

So are you ready for this new version of events, AKA our third clue? It goes like this. Similar to the first version, Joran and Natalie danced together at Carlos and Charlie's until it closed. Then they got a ride from the Kalpoe brothers. This time it was said that the Kalpos dropped Joran and Natalie off at a beach about a half mile north of her hotel. And then the Kalpos went home, leaving just Joran and Natalie alone. Natalie was extremely drunk. She was passing out repeatedly on the beach, but didn't want to go back to her hotel. So Joran eventually just left her there and walked home.

[Kayla Moore]

Just. Bye.

[Morgan Abshur]

And, you know, it is only about a two mile walk, so it's not out of the question. But to police, it was looking pretty unlikely that this story was accurate and that he actually walked home.

[Kayla Moore]

Well, also, it's an entirely different story from the first one. It's like, not even close.

[Morgan Abshur]

What happened to the security guards that helped her in.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah. So they're like. Well, actually, the logistics of this one don't make sense. So maybe now he's lying. Like, of course he's lying.

[Morgan Abshur]

Of course.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah.

[Morgan Abshur]

And no witnesses came forward and saw him walking home right in the middle of the night. You know, so it gets even weirder when Yorin's parents cannot confirm what time he got home either. So he doesn't really have a strong alibi. And so at the Prime Minister's urging, the local police brought the FBI in to consult on the interrogation and to actually create a psychological profile of the suspects. And they got some chilling insights into Joran's mind. The psychological profile that they created is actually our fourth clue here. And the FBI found Joran had a great deal of superficial charm, but they believed he could be explosive if rejected or told. No, Joran totally dominated his parents. They kind of treated him like he was their boss. They never corrected any wrong behavior. I mean, he spent his evenings at the casinos well before he was even 18. Yeah.

[Kayla Moore]

Just doing a legal activity that everyone knew about. So his parents must have known that he was also gambling and drinking and doing all this stuff.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah. And on at least one occasion, Paulus actually gave him money to go gamble.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah, they're totally complicit in all of this.

[Morgan Abshur]

Exactly. Kind of seemingly like above the law.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah.

[Morgan Abshur]

And so Profiler Mary Ellen O' Toole participated in the FBI's evaluation of Yorin in 2005 and later recalled some more disturbing traits. Here's a quote from an interview she actually gave about 17 year old Yorin. Quote, I saw that cold bloodedness about him. He did have some traits that I'm used to that I've worked with before. He was very glib and charming. He was an extroverted person, and he could turn on the charm. End quote. When she talks about other traits she's worked with before, Mary is referencing her past work on high profile cases involving mass murderers and serial killers.

[Kayla Moore]

So despite the lack of clear evidence against Joran or the Kalpos, one thing was becoming obvious. Those security guards we talked about earlier were not involved in this at all.

[Morgan Abshur]

That's why I got it. Got a little more, which is why.

[Kayla Moore]

It'S on the watchboard.

[Morgan Abshur]

It's there.

[Kayla Moore]

On June 13, two weeks now, after Natalee vanished, both of them were released. They were not ever charged with a crime. Beth also felt like they were innocent. But then five days after this, the police were onto another person of interest. On June 18, the police spent five hours questioning Joran's father, Paulus Van Der sloot. And then five days after that, on June 23rd, they took him into custody. Now, the authorities didn't release any information on exactly why Paulus was arrested, but they confirmed that he was going to be held separately from his son, who at this point is also in jail with the Kalpo brothers. Three days later, on June 26, a judge ordered Paulus to be released, and there's not any details given as to why. Afterwards, Beth confronted Palace, as well as Joran's mother, Anita, at the family's home, accusing them of covering for their son. Though they admitted Joran was a troubled teen and they had been unable to stop him from drinking and gambling. The Vandersloots denied any knowledge of what happened to Natalie. Palace sweated so heavily during this conversation with Beth, though, that Anita had to wipe him down with a kitchen towel. And Beth obviously sees all of this happen, and she interprets this as very clear evidence that someone is lying, whether he was actually hiding something then or not. Paulus stood by his son's story. And there was still more bad news coming for the Holloways. On July 4, a judge ordered the Calpos to be released. They decided there just wasn't sufficient evidence to keep them locked up any longer. The judge did allow prosecutors to continue holding Yorin, though, but only for 60 more days, unless they could charge him with something. The pressure was on at this point, but as the weeks ticked by and Joran's interrogations continued, nothing new really emerged. So Natalie's parents tried an old fashioned way of loosening lips. Money, basically. On July 25, the Holloways announced that they were raising the reward for Natalie's case to a million dollars. That is life changing money here in the States. It's even more so in Aruba. Anywhere, anywhere. Life changing money. And the very next day, it seemed like someone might actually get that Reward. So on July 26, the next day A gardener named Carlos came forward claiming he saw Yorin blocking the road near the Marriott Hotel a little bit before three in the morning, the night Natalie disappeared. Carlos led the police to a vacant lot near the Marriott where he said that he had seen Joran, the Kalpos, and two large mounds of dirt. By the time the police arrived, these mounds of dirt were gone. But there was a pond there, so the authorities decided they were going to drain it. Unfortunately, that lead went nowhere. It was just full of trash at the bottom of the pond. Chances were that the tip was made up in hopes of claiming the reward. And unfortunately that is something that happens, especially as you raise the stakes on reward money too. And you know, there was a few more dead end leads over the summer as well. A park ranger turned in some human hair that he found on a piece of duct tape on a beach. DNA testing did not connect it to Natalie. There was also a witness statement from an unhoused man who had passed a polygraph test. The man said he saw a woman's body in a landfill. But again, after they did some actual digging, nothing was found. Another popular theory was that Natalie's body had been thrown into the ocean. But there were these offshore searches that all came back unsuccessful. The island's search and rescue team determined that there was only two ways that Natalie's body could have been dumped in the water without washing back up. If it was dropped more than two miles from the coast, or if it had been weighed down significantly. Now, either of those were a possibility, but there was not any hard evidence of them taking place. The closest that they came was a report of a stolen machete and possibly a metal lobster trap taken from a fisherman's hut near the Marriott around the time of Natalie's disappearance. A metal lobster trap was heavy enough that it could have been used to tie a body down and sink it. The timing was also a little suspicious, but that was all evidence that seemed impossible to recover. Now, by mid August, the police were getting pretty desperate. Time was running out to hold Joran without charging him with a crime. However, Joran did offer up some information that got the Calpo brothers re arrested on August 26, 2005. During his time behind bars, Joran had made a pretty damaging admission. He said that Natalie had passed out multiple times while he was fondling her, which, you know, could be charged as sexual assault. So the police confronted the Kalpos, threatening that they could be charged as accessories to sexual assault for being in the car while it happened. Mostly, the police were hoping that this would be the thing that got the brothers to confess, to finally tell the police what happened the night Natalie disappeared. But it didn't work. Not only did neither of the Kalpoe brothers turn on Joran, but a judge ordered Joran and the Cowper brothers to be released on September 3rd. They had to remain available to police, meaning that they could be arrested if they tried to leave Dutch territory. However, you can probably see where this is going. The Netherlands counts as Dutch territory, so on September 6, Joran left Aruba to go start college in the Netherlands. Then on September 14, an appeals court removed the restrictions altogether, which meant that the suspects could travel around the world as they pleased. Beth obviously was furious. She was devastated. Dave was incredibly angry as well. 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Shortly after what would have been Natalie's 19th birthday on October 21, 2005, Dave seems to have reached a breaking point and he decided he was going to leave Aruba and pretty much accept that he may never find Natalie's body. But before he could get on a plane, he actually gets a tip that changes his mind on the subject. A deputy police chief told the family about a tip that said to stop searching on land and quote out in the sea three to five miles. That made Dave think about that stolen lobster trap we had been talking about. Maybe Joran had somehow taken Natalie out to sea that night. Maybe he borrowed or even stole a boat. So along with a PI that he had hired, Dave hatched a plan to go and find that lobster trap. It would take more than two years for that plan to come to fruition, but in the meantime, there were plenty of new developments. Beth felt that punishing Aruba's tourism industry was really the only way to keep Natalie's case from being forgotten. So In November of 2005, she joined Governor Bob Riley of Alabama and calling for the entire United States to boycott all travel to Aruba. Beth was not very popular in Aruba anymore. After nearly six months of living in An Aruban hotel while bashing the country on American television.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah, that was kind fighting words. An act of war.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah, risky. A risky move. She also had falling outs with her most loyal Aruban allies over her criticism of the island.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah, so I have a quote here from Charles Cruz, who helped them search on that first initial day on the island. And this quote is like, it's not a good quote, you guys, but this is what he said. Quote, they're killing Aruba. That girl Natalie, I wish she'd stayed home. I hope she's found alive there because no one would care. No one. The kid is just not worth all this trouble, this heartache. Is Natalie worth it? Is she? End quote.

[Kayla Moore]

Oh, my God.

[Morgan Abshur]

Which, buddy? That's horrendous.

[Kayla Moore]

That's a really. That's rough to hear.

[Morgan Abshur]

People in Aruba were just very, very unhappy. Especially, I mean, the country did, in their eyes, arrange such a vast search party. They offered money. I saw in one source, Beth was living in the hotels there for free, like, so they felt they had, you know, been trying.

[Kayla Moore]

No, we talked about this too, like in other cases we've covered where unfortunately there is like a political, not in like the governmental sense, but political in the people pleasing sense side to every case where sometimes parents do have to play ball with investigators just to keep them on your side. So they keep looking like, if you're gonna upset the whole country, that can have devastating consequences. But Beth really did not care if everyone hated her as long as they kept looking for her daughter. And those two things are kind of antithetical, which we see in this case. Her husband seemed to feel differently from her, though. In a letter to the Alabama governor, Jug Twitty advised against a boycott, fearing that it would further strain his family's relationship with the Reuben officials. They really needed them to be on their side. But even with the tension growing between Beth and the Aruban government, she and Dave find a new way to try and hold the Vandersloots accountable for this. On February 17th, the following year, 2006, Beth and Dave sued Paulus and Joran van der Sloot in civil court seeking unspecified damages. The two defendants were served in person in New York shortly after they arrived from the Netherlands. One reason for their U. S trip actually was a three night interview with Fox news's Greta van Susteren, which aired from March 1 to March 3, 2006.

[Morgan Abshur]

This part's crazy to me.

[Kayla Moore]

Greta's program on the record was Beth's preferred place to give interviews throughout 2005. So now Joran, who had turned 18 since Natalie's disappearance, was getting a chance to tell his side of the story.

[Morgan Abshur]

Witch story. And that's actually our fifth clue. Joran's on the record interview. During this tell all, Joran stuck pretty close to the story he had told while in custody. The one about going with Natalie to the beach and then just leaving her there alone. There was a pretty big change in this story though, where Joran now said that Satish picked him up in Deepak's car and drove him home and that what he lied about was actually walking the two miles back home from the beach that night. He continued to insist that there was no penetrative sex between him and Natalee, mostly because he, quote, didn't have a condom. As for why Joran would leave a drunk foreign teenager alone on a beach in the middle of the night, he had an explanation for that too. He had tried repeatedly to accompany Natalie back to her hotel, but she just refused, saying she wanted Joran to stay with her all night on the beach. Joran claimed he didn't know anything bad had happened to Natalie until he got a call from his father the next night, at which point Deepak, Satish and Joran agreed to lie and say that they had taken her back to the Holiday Inn. Throughout this three part interview, which is way too many parts, Joran seemed to just go out of his way to criticize the Holloways, Natalee, all of their supporters. He even went as far to criticize the Aruban police, claiming that they hit him during one of his interrogations. And our sixth clue comes shortly after this interview, if we're going to call it that. About 10 months after Natalee was last seen, the Aruban police said that they had a new tip. The deputy chief said that he had received credible info about Natalee's possessing of illegal drugs. Their new theory was that Natalie went back to the Vandersloots home where she used drugs and then died of an overdose. After that, police theorized the young men disposed of the body to avoid being blamed, possibly reburying her multiple times all over the island. But nobody who actually knew Natalee believed this theory. But they still hoped a new investigation would bring her body home.

[Kayla Moore]

It also seemed to come out of left field for a theory.

[Morgan Abshur]

Where is this coming from?

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah, where is this coming from? Well, a couple of arrests were made after this new tip comes in, but none are really worth mentioning here because they didn't result in any leads about Natalee. So once again, the case Just went cold. In August of 2006, the Holloway's civil suit against Joran and his father was dismissed. Beth seemed to think an American court would be far more favorable in pursuing justice and damages. But the court ruled that there wasn't a good reason for the suit to proceed in New York rather than in Aruba, where the crime had taken place. By December, the case had worn the family so thin that Beth Holloway and her second husband, Jug Twitty, officially separated and divorced in 2007. And at this point, I mean, I can imagine Joran was feeling pretty confident that he would really never be charged in this case, because that is when he starts making really wild decisions. In April of 2007, Joran published a book about the case. It was only ever released in Dutch, but we do know that in it, he apologized to the Holloway family for lying. He even wrote, quote, I hope every day that Natalie will be found. He also stuck to this news story, too, that he had told Fox News about, about leaving Natalie alone on the beach. And then in the book as well, which is kind of bizarre, but Joran even describes himself as a pathological liar.

[Morgan Abshur]

You know what? It's giving the same energy as what Peter Madsen.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah.

[Morgan Abshur]

Where he's like, would I know a psychopath? Does the psychopath know he's a psychopath? It's like, peter, I'm a pathological liar. Okay, so you're admitting that you are one. And how can anyone then believe anything that comes from your mouth?

[Kayla Moore]

I know. It's even like in the staircase case, where the husband makes a whole documentary about himself. I mean, regardless of if he did it or not.

[Morgan Abshur]

Said he had a Purple Heart, never did.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah, but a lot of people will go on record and write books about things and make documentaries about things, about how innocent they are, fully knowing that they're guilty or that they're lying or that if you look into them, more like the story is going to fall apart, which I've never understood, but it must be a pathological liar thing.

[Morgan Abshur]

It's sure something.

[Kayla Moore]

Well, on April 20, 2007, Aruban police searched the Vander Sloot's home again. They didn't give a good reason for this search, but they were extremely thorough and they even dug up the backyard. They took samples of dirt from the backyard, too. During the search, from inside the house, they seized diaries and a computer. Those two things were later returned. And less than a month later, on May 12, 2007, not quite two years after Natalie disappeared, the Calpo residence was also Searched again. No big announcements were made at the time, but they must have felt like they had something new, because on November 21, Joran was arrested for a third time. And at this point, he was in the Netherlands along with the Kalpo brothers, who were in Aruba. But these arrests were all on suspicion of sexual assault and murder. They must have not really had that much evidence against them, though, because then on December 1, the Calpos were released again. And on December 7, Yorin was ordered to be released as well. Then on December 18, the authorities gave up, and they officially ordered the investigation to be closed. And even though the investigation was closed, there's, like, a little bit more movement afterwards. I know at one point, Dave was able to use a boat to kind of go looking at part of the ocean where they felt like there was a lobster trap, like maybe the one that he thought he was looking for in the water. And, like, in December of that year, they saw what they thought was a skull near this lobster trap, but that ended up not really leading to anything. So ultimately, the case just went cold after that.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah, we actually don't get our seventh clue until a few months later, February 2008, when a Dutch news program aired some hidden camera footage, and it appeared to show Joran confessing to disposing of Natalee's body. So it was all a part of this sting operation by a Dutch crime reporter who had just kind of taken up the cause of trying to prove Joran was guilty. And now this guy fully committed to the bit. He went undercover claiming to be a drug dealer and just befriended Joran, I think, over the card tables, if I'm remembering correctly. And so in this video that this reporter releases, Joran is smoking cannabis in his new friend's car. And while he still says he never killed Natalie, he does admit that she died while in his company. He says that they had sex on the beach, and she started shaking and just suddenly died. Then Joran says he panicked, called a friend for help, loaded Natalie onto the friend's boat, and dumped her body in the ocean without even making sure that she was actually dead. The video includes the chilling quote, she'll never be found. Now, you guys are going to see a little snippet of this clip. I want you to kind of, like, pick up a vibe of what Joran is acting like.

To me after watching Cool as a Cucumber.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah.

[Morgan Abshur]

Didn't seem like he was being pressured to admit any of this. The friend provided a comfortable space, asked questions, and he just willingly answered and Beth Holloway ended up seeing this footage as well. And afterwards she responded, quote, I hope his living hell is about to begin and he never gets another night's sleep. But when interviewed about this hidden camera footage, Joran claimed he was just high and telling his friend what he wanted to hear. After Joran's denials, the Dutch court ruled that the hidden camera footage wasn't enough to justify a new arrest. At this point, Yorin had told so many lies and had made so many false statements, the police discounted this new version too, saying that there was no way of corroborating any new evidence. And I don't know about you guys out there listening, but like, to me this feels like a botched where it's like he's clearly the only one connected. He's the only one that keeps continuing to tell new stories about her. And now he's admitting that, oh, he actually saw her die.

[Kayla Moore]

He's the only lead you have, the only one, the last person seen with her by witnesses who keeps lying and changing his story. And there's, yeah, there's nothing.

[Morgan Abshur]

It seems like you would at least try.

But, you know, maybe double jeopardy is a thing in Dutch courts as well. And so there was really nothing for the courts to do at this point. One silver lining for the Holloways, though. Joran reportedly had to go into hiding, fearing for his life. Because after people all around the world saw this confession, they were, they were sure it was him and they hated him. But Joran was still going to go on to tell wild stories despite being in hiding, which is actually our eighth clue. On November 24, 2008, Joran went back on the Greta Van Susteren's Fox News program On the Record to share a shocking. Take a wild guess, new version of events.

[Kayla Moore]

Totally new story.

[Morgan Abshur]

New story. Who would have thought? Which, can I just say, like, why are we giving this man so much airtime?

[Kayla Moore]

So much airtime.

[Morgan Abshur]

So much airtime.

[Kayla Moore]

Oh, my God. A three night interview also to start with, just seems so wild.

[Morgan Abshur]

Read his book, Greta, if you want to know his story.

[Kayla Moore]

They just knew that they could make money off of telling his story. It's so unfortunate.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah, it is. And so this time when Joran goes on, he claims to have sold Natalie into sexual slavery for less than $10,000 in cash. And this was just handed to him by a stranger on the beach. Before Natalie disappeared, Joran had reportedly described himself on social media as a pimp. So some people were inclined to actually believe this story.

[Kayla Moore]

This was also 2005 where I felt like, I feel like everyone was using pimp as like a. I'm so cool like that. It was like much more in the lexicon of what people were saying.

[Morgan Abshur]

Well, I heard a clip of him on this show and like, to me listening, it's like he's not even telling a cohesive story. No, he's like, yeah, some guy just asked me to get him a blonde girl. Blonde haired, blue eyed girl. And then Greta was like, well, what was his name?

[Kayla Moore]

I don't know.

[Morgan Abshur]

Like, he just. You get the vibe. Yeah, he's lying yet again. And the only evidence he could really offer up to support this was a recording. It had what he said were three phone calls between himself and his father in which they discussed Joran's involvement in human trafficking. And in the recording, Paulus orders his son not to talk to anyone about what he's done. Fox News allegedly paid him $25,000 for an interview and access to those recordings. And while American experts couldn't determine whether or not the recordings were real, Dutch news just kind of went ahead and reported them as fake. Many actually believed that the tapes were made solely by Joran and he just recorded himself speaking in two different voices. But on the other hand, Jim Hammer, a former assistant DA in San Francisco, says Paulus did not deny that the recordings were authentic. So he kind of took this to mean, well, he's a lawyer. He's not denying it. Yeah, maybe they are real.

[Kayla Moore]

Like, they could. Could have been real.

[Morgan Abshur]

They could have been.

[Kayla Moore]

Afterwards, the case goes quiet for a while again. But then there is another unexpected twist. On February 10, 2010, Paulus van der Sloot died of a heart attack while playing tennis in Aruba. He was just 57 years old. Joran went back to Aruba for the funeral. And while he was there, it seems like he thought up another way that he could kind of profit off of this notoriety he was starting to get. In March of 2010, he actually contacted Beth Holloway's lawyer and he offered to tell them the truth about what happened to Natalee once and for all in exchange for $250,000. Now, Beth made a smart move, and she immediately contacts the FBI when this offer rolls in. And the FBI encourages her to go forward with the payment to Joran in hopes that it might reveal something real. Which now that we've read about all of the lies that he's been spewing, feels like insane advice that they are telling her to spend this much money on getting potentially just more lies from him. Nothing.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah.

[Kayla Moore]

So Beth's representative told Joran that he would get a 10 down payment on the $250,000, and the rest would be delivered after he revealed the location of Natalie's body. And, of course, Joran agrees to this. On May 10, 2010, he received $10,000 in cash, as well as a $15,000 wire transferred to his Dutch bank account. Now, if you could believe the FBI was not the one that provided this money. This all came from Beth. They were like, you should definitely do this. We think this could result in something. However, we're not going to foot the bill.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah, it's totally your risk.

[Kayla Moore]

So she is the one that sends him the $25,000. And Joran led Beth's representative to really just a random house where he said that he'd concealed Natalie's remains in the foundation while it was being built. He even managed to blame his recently deceased father, saying that palace actually helped him bury Natalie. Records and satellite images very quickly proved that workers did not even break ground on this house until long after Natalie vanished. So this was not just a lie. It was very obviously a lie. There was no effort even put into the lie to begin with. Joran eventually confirmed in an email that he knew the information he provided was, quote, worthless. However, he did say he was going to keep Beth's $25,000 anyways. But what's interesting about this, though, is this is actually a crime to do this. And Joran had just committed extortion. Theoretically, he could be arrested for that in Aruba and then extradited to the United States to face trial. However, according to the FBI, the real true rock stars of this whole thing, the case was, quote, not sufficiently developed to bring charges immediately, AKA we're not the ones that lost our money, so we don't really care about this. I'm sure if it was their 25, 000, they would have acted a little bit.

[Morgan Abshur]

It's getting more hastily. It feels a little slimy.

[Kayla Moore]

They decided that they were going to buy their time, but now, at this point, Joran has 25, 000 extra dollars to live on. He decides that he's gonna leave Aruba and he's gonna head to Peru. And that another tragedy is about to occur.

In 2010, after this extortion incident, Joran's mother claims that he was supposed to return to the Netherlands for an inpatient mental health treatment, but instead, he went to Peru to gamble. After he arrived in Peru, he promptly gambled away the $25,000 he had extorted from Beth. And this is kind of something that everyone has said about Yoren. And records show that even though he gambled a lot, he was also very bad at it and he lost exorbitant amounts of money. So the 25, 000 goes away immediately. And by May 30, 2010, the fifth anniversary of Natalie's disappearance, he was broke, but he was still hanging out near poker tables, just looking for a chance to be able to buy back in. Maybe he was hoping that he could just win all the money back and that he'd be fine. But before he could get back to playing, Joran left a casino in Lima, Peru with a 21 year old named Stephanie that he had met just a few hours earlier.

[Morgan Abshur]

And that brings us to our ninth clue. Stephanie Flores Ramirez. Stephanie was a pretty promising young poker player. In fact, she'd reportedly just won 5,000 Peruvian soles, which is a little under 2,000 USD, from a tournament. Still, she wasn't ready to go all in as a professional poker player just yet. She was in her junior year at the University of Lima, studying business administration. In her free time, she also loved to play soccer and honed her business skills by helping her four brothers run their event planning business. Now, we don't know why she left the casino with Joran or why she went with him to his hotel room, but we do have surveillance videos of this. Tell me what you guys think of her body language. I mean, the news really speculates on this part, so watch it and put it in the comments, like, what do you get from this?

So to me and a lot of others, Stephanie looks really apprehensive. She's hunched over, not looking up, but she still follows Joran into his room. At about 5am in the morning, a little after 7am, Joran left briefly and then returned with bread and two cups of coffee. But at 8.36am, he leaves the hotel room for good after telling staff not to bother, quote, his girl in the room. No one was allowed to enter the room. Actually, in one source I saw, Joran had like prepaid for the room for two weeks and like made it very clear to hotel staff, like, do not go in my room.

[Kayla Moore]

Right, right.

[Morgan Abshur]

And so it's not until three days later, on June 2, that hotel staff do find Stephanie dead in Joran's hotel room. She's face down with a broken neck and bruising on her body. Her credit cards were missing, along with the 5,000 SOLAs that she had just won playing poker.

[Kayla Moore]

And in this crime, the evidence against Joran was overwhelming. This time, I mean, there's surveillance footage that you guys saw, there's witnesses, there is a body in a hotel room with his name on it.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah, and that again, this is why there's a botched mark for that, too. You know, had he been charged with the extortion, he wouldn't have gone to Peru.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah. FBI, I hope you're watching this right there. Plus, Stephanie's father was a retired race car driver who had run for president in Peru. So her family was well known. They had high level connections to the government and to law enforcement. So in this situation, the police move a lot faster, There's a lot more on the line. They immediately launch a manhunt across South America with every expectation that they're going to find Joran, especially because they already knew which way he went. Joran had tricked two Peruvian taxi drivers into taking him across the border into Chile, and then he cheated them out of payment. And now those two drivers were cooperating with the police. One day after Stephanie was found dead in that hotel room, yorin was arrested about 2, 000 miles away in Chile. A police convoy transferred Joran all the way back to Peru after his arrest, and they arrived there on Saturday, June 5th. Joran pretty quickly confessed to killing Stephanie, claiming that he did it in a rage because she used his laptop without permission. But again, we know how much he lies about literally everything. But he does say in this confession that when she was using this laptop, she discovered information about his connection to the Natalee Holloway case. And when he makes his confession, it pretty much immediately gets reported as fact in US tabloids. But it raises eyebrows. In Peru, killing in a sudden fit of rage carried only a three to five year sentence there.

[Morgan Abshur]

Crazy.

[Kayla Moore]

Three to five years.

[Morgan Abshur]

Crazy.

[Kayla Moore]

Premeditated murder could bring up to 35 years. Still, not a lot, but up to 35 years. So it seems like Joran maybe came up with this confession specifically because he knew that and he knew that he could get an incredibly short sentence. Plus, according to police, a search of Joran's laptop proved that there was nothing on that laptop in connection to Natalie that Stephanie could have discovered, and therefore, she most likely did not confront Joran about this. Joran's attorney, of course, disagrees with all of these conclusions. Now, Joran's participation in numerous TV interviews over the years made law enforcement very skeptical of this story. And he was so afraid to be publicly connected to Natalie's case. Why did he keep talking about it all the time? And like on such big platforms, why.

[Morgan Abshur]

Did you write A book?

[Kayla Moore]

Why did you write a book? Police, therefore mostly ignored this confession. They believed that Yorin planned to murder and steal Stephanie's poker winnings. That was his intent the entire time. So it didn't look like Yorin was going to get the manslaughter charge that he wanted. And he was now public enemy number one in Peru. On his way to be arranged for the first degree murder and robbery, Yorin was briefly marched past members of the public and they pelted him with rotten vegetables. By June 10, Yorin was desperate to get out of Peru before he could be tried. So desperate that he offered to trade information on the location of Natalie's body for extradition to Aruba.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah, we've been down that road before.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah, yeah. He just feels like this is a bargaining chip that he has that he can use whenever he needs it. Except neither the Peruvian nor the Aruban authorities were interested in this deal at all. They did not trust Yorin to tell the truth. So Yorin was going to have to stay in Peru and be tried there. It took 18 months before Yorin finally pled guilty to the charges of murder and robbery. On January 11, 2012, he received a 28 year sentence that's close to maximum. And he was ordered to pay 200,000 soless of restitution to Stephanie's family. At the time, that was about $75,000, accounting for the time served while he was awaiting trial. That would leave 24 year old Joran free to be extradited to the US in 2038. There, he would finally face the extortion charges that had since been pressed against him for what happened with Beth, like we talked about, botched. The day before Joran's sentencing, an Alabama judge declared Natalie dead. And that was because of Dave's request. And Beth, it seems like, objected to this, but it was something that Dave wanted. He wanted Natalie's little brother to be able to use her college fund. He wanted to be able to take Natalie off of his family's health insurance plan. Constantly having to see these little reminders was absolutely agonizing for him at this point. I mean, your family's not able to grieve, really, because you don't know what happened. And I could totally see how they were ready to kind of start being able to process and move on as a family. He still had these two little girls with his second wife Robin to think about as well. But one thing that Dave did agree with Beth on, even though they disagreed on this point, was this was not going to be the end of the search for Natalie.

[Morgan Abshur]

And again, you guys know I went down the rabbit hole on this one. I just have, like, two little tangents here for us. One, I really want to commend Stephanie Flores's family.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah.

[Morgan Abshur]

In the wake of this tragedy, her dad was doing interviews and basically being like, I hope that this tragedy and losing my daughter brings the Holloway family some peace and justice. Like, he knew exactly what this meant and, like, really went above and beyond. And then point number two, while Joran is in this Peruvian prison, jail, whatever it is, there, they call it maximum security. I think we have a different definition here in the States. Joran actually married a woman while in prison in July 2014. They met while she was visiting a relative at the prison, and she actually ended up becoming pregnant with his child and gave birth to a daughter in September of 2014.

[Kayla Moore]

That is wild.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah. And there's so much more to that rabbit hole. He eventually asked for a divorce and his lawyer started doing interviews to be like, yeah, Joran wants to get divorced because he has a hot new younger girlfriend. What rabbit hole? Don't do it.

[Kayla Moore]

I mean, he should not be the father of a young daughter. So maybe that's for the best. But oh, my gosh, that's wild.

[Morgan Abshur]

Very.

[Kayla Moore]

So over the next few years, Natalie's case continued to accumulate a lot of other dead end tips that just didn't go anywhere. And in 2018, Beth actually sues Oxygen Media for $35 million over a docu series that they made called the Disappearance of Natalee Holloway. And this was like, also kind of an upsetting tidbit to go down. But Beth claimed that she was tricked by production into providing a DNA sample for comparison with remains that were found in Aruba. They did not apparently tell her that this was for a television show. She also claimed that this raised her hopes under false pretenses by letting her believe that they might have found Natalie's remains, when in fact, the series was scripted. And the producers knew that the bones they were testing were not her daughters. In fact, in this lawsuit, allegedly, the producers knew that the bones were not even human. They turned out to be pieces of wild boar skull allegedly planted by a supposed witness that was seen in the documentary.

[Morgan Abshur]

Oh, my God.

[Kayla Moore]

Yeah. And what's upsetting, too, and I've seen a lot of people debate this online. The stars of that documentary were Dave and his private investigator. There's a lot of debate online as to how much Dave knew about this. I cannot imagine from everything we've read. About him so far that he would have participated in this docu series if he knew from the jump that these were wild boar bones.

[Morgan Abshur]

Literally just got the chills.

[Kayla Moore]

I feel like that I think must.

[Morgan Abshur]

Have been a bait and switch or just he didn't know.

[Kayla Moore]

It's an interesting. Just like the media angle of this whole case the entire way. Like, you just see how many different times the media decided they could make money on this case. So they continued to share lies and platform Yorin, and then also do insane stunts like this, like potentially plant animal bones.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah, I mean, the media went wild with this. I believe it was Greta's show even that moved to Aruba for a while. Yeah. And her ratings shot up by like 60%. Like they were really capitalizing right on Natalee's case.

[Kayla Moore]

Yes. On January 10, 2020. However, it seems, at least from some sources, that this lawsuit was dismissed with prejudice, though, meaning that it can't be filed again. And that is really where things stood until 2023, just two years ago, when the case took a final surprising turn. In December of 2022, Peru got a new president, Dina Boluarte. And in May of 2023, she agreed to temporarily extradite Joran Van Der Sloot to the United States, though he would have to eventually return and finish his sentence in Peru.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah, no more conjugal visits for him during that time period. Which brings us to our tenth and final clue. Joran's only official confession. Joran arrived in the US in June 2023. Finally, US prosecutors had some leverage over him. There was ample evidence in the extortion case. So if Yorin wanted any kind of leniency, he was going to have to give them something in return. On October 18, 2023, as a part of a plea agreement, 36 year old Joran pleaded guilty to extortion and wire fraud charges. He was sentenced to 20 years to be served concurrently with his 28 year sentence for killing Stephanie Flores. And this meant he'd basically be adding just seven years to his total sentence and set for release in 2045 at the age of 58. The US could have insisted on a consecutive sentence, but Yorin gave prosecutors what they really wanted. His formal confession to murdering Natalie in recorded form. And I will say, according to a lot of the sources I read, like, Beth did work really closely with the FBI and like, they consulted her on all of this to make sure that whatever plea deal they gave him, she was comfortable with.

[Kayla Moore]

So, yeah, that's great.

[Morgan Abshur]

It's maybe a half mark off for them there. But this is the final story Joran gives. Joran claimed the Kalpoe brothers left Joran and Natalie alone on the beach near the Marriott Hotel. Natalee rejected Joran's attempts to have sex with her. He then attempted to sexually assault her. Natalee fought back, kneeing Joran in the crotch with all of her strength. Outraged at being rejected, Joran kicked Natalee in the face hard enough to knock her unconscious. Joran then said he noticed a cinder block nearby, grabbed it, and used it to smash her head in. He says that despite being on a dark beach, he could see that her face was caved in. After that, he dragged her body into the ocean and pushed her in.

[Kayla Moore]

I guess that kind of goes back to what the original profiler was saying about the becomes explosive when told. No, that kind of aligns with it.

[Morgan Abshur]

Yeah, Right on the money.

[Kayla Moore]

Unfortunately, the statute of limitations for homicide in Aruba has since expired, so Joran will never be charged with Natalie's murder. Ultimately, though, both of Natalie's parents believe Joran is guilty and that his final confession mostly accurately describes the murder itself. Beth issued a statement right after Joran's confession, and she said this. Let's play the tape for you guys today. I can tell you with certainty that after 18 years, Natalie's case, it's solved. As far as I'm concerned. Concerned, it's over.

[Morgan Abshur]

It's over.

[Kayla Moore]

She then goes on to say that Yorin's confession has allowed her to reach the end of a never ending nightmare. She said, quote, and for me, reaching the end of the nightmare being over is better than closure. It's been a very long and painful journey, but we finally got the answers we've been searching for all these years.

[Morgan Abshur]

That whole video of her coming out of the courtroom and, like, giving her statement is so powerful. I recommend you guys watch the rest of it in full. But we also have her victim impact statement that she read during sentencing, and I just want to read a couple excerpts from that as well. Quote, Natalie would be 36 years old now. I think about what kind of doctor she would have become. She would be married, have children, my grandchildren. But you destroyed all of this. You terminated her potential, her dreams, and her possibilities. When you bludgeoned her to death in 2005. You took away my son's big sister. You changed the course of our lives and turned them upside down. You are a murderer. Remember that. Every time that jail door slams shut, you are a killer. And we will be posting the full impact statement on Instagram. It's extremely powerful. She absolutely drags him. I mean, it is, it is worth going over there and reading. But that is all we have on our Natalee Holloway case.

[Kayla Moore]

That's the most closure that anyone's going to get on it. It seems to be enough for the family. So that's what's important.

[Morgan Abshur]

Family feels really good about it. Both Beth and Dave, they, they finally feel like they can heal and move forward with their lives a little bit.

[Kayla Moore]

Yes. And I think with that, let's talk about our missing person of the week. This one actually comes from you guys in the community. We love hearing from, from you guys about cases that you want us to highlight. So keep sending us those. That's. We have a whole list going at this point of ones that we want to highlight. So thank you for that.

[Morgan Abshur]

Absolutely. We want to know the cases that people aren't talking about. The best way is getting them from you who you're connected to them locally because if they're on the national news, the word is already getting out. So we want to amplify voices that are not.

[Kayla Moore]

This week we want to highlight the case of Tony Turner. Tony was last seen at the Dobra Tea house located at 1937 Murray Ave. In Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The circumstances of her disappearance are unknown. However, a few of her belongings were approximately three miles from the location she was last seen. She's described as being 28 years old.

[Morgan Abshur]

Now, after the Dobra Tea House, she then headed home. Tony got off at her regular bus stop that evening on the corner of Hazelwood Avenue and Gideon Street. She got off where she normally gets off to walk to her house. But then after that, it's a mystery.

[Kayla Moore]

Later that evening, Tony's belongings, her phone, her wallet, her keys and her bag were found on the Homestead Gray Bridge, which was about two miles away from her bus stop. When her sister Sydney went to Tony's home, she found it empty and Tony's boyfriend and roommate were both out of town and there was no sign of her. Sydney reported her missing just after midnight on New Year's Day 2020. The Pittsburgh Police continue to investigate, but there's been no major updates. Tony's sister believes someone in the community might know more about what happened that night. Tony's described as being 5 foot 2, around 130 pounds, with chin length black hair and a tattoo of a spiral on her left shoulder. She was last seen wearing a black jacket, gray habla espanol shirt and gray cargo pants. She would be 28 now. She's also described as being black with medium complexion, black hair and brown eyes. Anyone with information is asked to contact the Pittsburgh Police Department at 412-323-7141.

[Morgan Abshur]

And that is all we have for this episode of clues. Thank you for joining us on this case. Back next week with another one.

[Kayla Moore]

Thank you so much for joining us this week. And now we want to hear from you guys, thoughts, theories, opinions, all of it. We love hearing from you guys. And it's all of that that makes this community so special.

[Morgan Abshur]

Absolutely. At Crime House, we really value your support. So again, share those thoughts on social media and remember to rate, review and follow clues. And subscribe. And subscribe to help others discover our show. If you want more of us, I'm over on two hot takes and I am heartstarts pounding. Until next time. Bye.

[Kayla Moore]

Bye.

[Morgan Abshur]

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