CNBC "Fast Money" – Episode Summary
Episode Title: Stocks & Commodities Hit Record Highs.. And Novo’s Weight Loss Pill Pop
Date: December 23, 2025
Host: Melissa Lee
Panel: Tim Seymour, Courtney Garcia, Steve Grasso, Guy Adami
Notable Guests: Joe Lavornia (Counselor to Secretary of the Treasury), Seamus Fernandez (Pharma Analyst, Guggenheim), Brian Nagel (Senior Analyst, Oppenheimer)
Episode Overview
This action-packed episode covers a surging stock and commodity market, U.S. economic data surprises, shifting sector leadership, the debut of Novo Nordisk's oral weight loss pill, debates about inflation, and deep dives into key stocks like Meta and Nike. The roundtable delivers rapid-fire analysis and actionable takeaways for investors headed into 2026.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Markets at Record Highs and the Economic Backdrop
[00:46–07:47]
- S&P 500 and commodities reached new records as 2025 closes. S&P's 14th record; Dow nearly at new highs. Major uptick attributed to strong economic data, including Q3 GDP growth of 4.3% (vs. 2.8% est.)
- Broad rally: Not just stocks; gold, silver, copper all made new highs.
- Panel consensus:
- "Unless some piece of news comes out, the market's just not going to continue to levitate. The old saying is don't short a dull market, and that's what we're seeing." — Guy Adami [02:10]
- “Nominal growth is probably north of 5% here…equities should love this. In the short run, the Fed is your friend.” — Tim Seymour [02:36]
- Leadership rotation:
- Semiconductors (esp. Micron’s strong earnings) enabled bulls to believe in the rally.
- Industrials, banks, and cyclicals now at or near highs; bank stocks now “expensive, not value plays.”
- “40 of the last 50 upgrades have been outside tech.” — Steve Grasso [04:00]
- Consumer spending remains robust despite soft confidence:
- Ongoing consumer strength, driven by baby boomers’ wealth and high spending on essentials (healthcare, food, energy).
- “Baby boomers control like $84 trillion of net worth… a lot less affected by the labor market.” — Courtney Garcia [04:39]
2. Inflation, Fed Policy and Stimulus Debate
[08:52–16:07]
- Presidential admin’s stance:
- "Inflation will take care of itself and if it doesn't, we can always raise rates at the appropriate time.” — President’s message cited by Melissa Lee [08:52]
- Joe Lavornia (Treasury):
- Economy is strong but interest-sensitive sectors (like residential structures) remain weak.
- 2026 expected to be “a banner year.”
- Stimulus checks referenced are “money given to hardworking men and women in the armed forces,” not broad inflationary stimulus.
- “These (recent checks and supply-side changes) are not inflationary—they bring more labor force participation, more supply.” [11:25]
- Inflation expected to move lower with energy and gasoline acting as disinflationary forces.
- “The consensus has consistently overestimated inflation…” [14:59]
- Roundtable skepticism:
- “The majority of people in this country are hung up on [inflation]. They’re feeling the pain.” — Guy Adami [16:19]
- Panel notes much growth comes from healthcare cost increases, not ideal for GDP quality.
- “Biggest component of [GDP growth] is health care costs. I don’t think that’s what you want.” — Guy Adami [16:52]
- Lower than expected CPI (esp. “owners equivalent rent”) helps keep the Fed dovish.
- “We’re going to get good CPI for the next couple of months, which keeps the Fed in check.” — Steve Grasso [16:52]
3. Bitcoin, Crypto, and Risk Rotation
[17:11–18:39]
- Bitcoin has slipped over 30% from record highs; crypto stocks hit harder.
- Tim Seymour: “The fundamental case for bitcoin is well established, and we’re in a predictable range and a pullback… Buying weakness is something I think investors are supposed to be doing here.” [17:35]
- Courtney Garcia: Bitcoin is not currently in her portfolios, but "real bitcoin bulls want to buy more of it every time it pulls back." [18:15]
- Guy Adami: Decoupling from gold is “put to bed;” risk-off moves in crypto could spill over to tech/equities. [18:39]
4. Opportunities Abroad: International and Emerging Markets
[23:58–26:51]
- City downgrades China (to Neutral); still bullish on broader emerging markets.
- Tim Seymour:
- Dollar weakness, Fed easing, and robust U.S. growth create a “great backdrop” for international investing.
- "Europe is going to surprise in terms of EPS growth… European industrials, tobaccos, and semis (ASML, Taiwan Semi) are attractive." [24:12–25:40]
- Advocates developed markets, with significant underinvestment in international stocks: "I believe in long-term mean reversion trades. The underperformance [of international markets] is turned, and yes, they're underinvested." [26:51]
- Guy Adami/Steve Grasso: Brazil’s breakout led by commodity exposure; commodity-based countries and materials stocks attract attention. [25:57–26:23]
- Courtney Garcia: International has outperformed S&P 500 this year—sees ongoing upside.
5. Meta (formerly Facebook) – Buy the Dip?
[20:33–22:50]
- Baird upgrades Meta stock on the pullback (down 16% from highs), citing upside from AI and monetization of WhatsApp and Threads.
- Courtney Garcia: Cautious but sees upside if negativity on the stock has "swung too far." Longer-term buy. [20:55]
- Tim Seymour: Likes PEG ratio, has “nibbled on some weakness.” [21:37]
- Guy Adami: Shares have rebounded after similar prior selloffs; new highs likely coming.
- Steve Grasso: Warns 98% of revenue is ad dollars: “If the economy doesn’t do so well, first thing people do is cut back on ad spend.” [22:25]
6. Novo Nordisk: Oral Weight Loss Pill Approval & Future Prospects
[28:56–35:16]
- Novo’s new GLP-1 pill (oral weight loss drug) approved by FDA. Shares pop ~7%.
- Seamus Fernandez (Guggenheim):
- Approval does not “dramatically change” competitive landscape but gives Novo a much-needed foothold; real test is supply capacity and efficacy versus injectables and Lilly’s upcoming oral option.
- "You almost need 70 times as much of the molecule to actually go into the gut" for the pill to match the injectable. [30:39]
- Key will be consumer preference and the company’s ability to expand beyond obesity and diabetes: “Just being focused exclusively in obesity and diabetes, I think, can be problematic.” [32:50]
- Tim Seymour: "Expectations on growth have been so level set here… I don’t know that [a transformative transaction] needs to happen to move the stock higher though." [34:23]
- Guy Adami: Expected a bigger 15–20% move, calls 7% pop “not nearly as robust as I thought.” [35:16]
7. Nike: Turnaround or Trap?
[36:19–41:56]
- Stock is near 8-month lows; Oppenheimer’s Brian Nagel sets Street-high $120 price target for 2026.
- Brian Nagel:
- Sees signs of “success where management has focused,” especially in North America wholesale and new running product; China remains a headwind but is “fixable.”
- “What gives me confidence...is where the management team has focused, they are seeing success and I think that focus will just keep cycling through this enterprise and at some point the whole thing will be working.” [36:26]
- Earnings “very depressed”—price target based on normalization plus healthy multiple.
- Defends CEO Elliott Hill as the right leader, despite calls for a leadership change, citing his rapid positive impact.
- Tim Seymour/Guy Adami:
- Price target implies significant earnings growth. "Still a 60 multiple; it's expensive… they're behind the eight ball." [41:49, 41:56]
- Comparison to Lululemon’s turnaround.
8. Whiskey/Spirits Stocks Face Headwinds
[42:21–44:05]
- Jack Daniel’s maker Brown Forman falls 5%+ on demand and tariff worries; Jim Beam (Suntory) pausing production.
- Tim Seymour:
- Diageo faces “market share erosion” and changing alcohol consumption patterns, particularly among younger consumers. Still thinks Diageo is ownable for long-termers.
- Steve Grasso: Points to rise of “ready-to-drink cocktails” as a growth area for the category (e.g. Bud up 27%).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “Don’t short a dull market and that’s what we’re seeing.” — Guy Adami [02:10]
- "Nominal growth is probably north of 5% here…equities should love this. In the short run, the Fed is your friend." — Tim Seymour [02:36]
- “I think the bull case [for the market] is still there. The economy is running hot.” — Courtney Garcia [04:39]
- “If Micron had a bad print, we wouldn’t have the Christmas rally.” — Steve Grasso [04:00]
- “The underperformance [of international markets] is turned, and yes, they're underinvested.” — Tim Seymour [26:51]
- “You almost need 70 times as much of the molecule [in pill form] to actually go into the gut so that it can cross into the circulation.” — Seamus Fernandez [30:39]
- “What gives me confidence in this call into 2026 is where the management team [Nike] has focused, they are seeing success.” — Brian Nagel [36:26]
- "Final trade: Novo Nordisk." — Tim Seymour [44:47]
Important Timestamps
- [00:46] Main episode start; S&P and commodities hit records; GDP surprises
- [02:36] Tim Seymour on nominal growth and Fed dynamics
- [04:00] Steve Grasso on sector upgrades, Micron, and the Santa rally
- [04:39] Courtney Garcia on consumer health and baby boomers’ spending power
- [08:52] President’s statement on inflation vs. growth; Joe Lavornia interview
- [14:10] Discussion of US dollar, trade, tariffs, and inflation effects
- [16:19] Roundtable on inflation pain and GDP quality
- [17:11] Melissa Lee turns to Bitcoin and crypto market weakness
- [20:33] Meta: Analyst upgrade debate
- [23:58] City downgrades China; Tim Seymour on global opportunities
- [28:56] Novo weight-loss pill discussion with Seamus Fernandez
- [36:19] Nike’s post-earnings selloff; Bull/bear debate with Brian Nagel
- [42:21] Spirits/whiskey sector headwinds; Diageo and RTD cocktails
- [44:47] Final trades: Novo Nordisk (Seymour), Freeport-McMoRan (Garcia), Boeing (Grasso)
Tone and Takeaways
The discussion is lively, analytical, and retains Fast Money’s trademark blend of skepticism, strategy, and humor ("Don't short a dull market," "You almost need 70 times as much of the molecule..."). The roundtable emphasizes economic and market resilience, highlights cross-asset leadership and sector rotation, and maintains a healthy debate over inflation risks and global investing. Emerging product breakthroughs (Novo’s pill), “under-owned” international equities, and select stock-specific turnarounds signal optimism for diversified strategies heading into 2026.
Recommended for Investors:
- Stay diversified across sectors—look beyond just tech.
- Watch international and commodities plays; underowned by U.S. investors.
- Keep an eye on consumer resilience and inflation signals, especially as Fed policy remains favorable (for now).
- Don’t overlook single-stock catalysts (Meta pullback, Nike turnaround, Novo’s breakthrough).
- Monitor emerging alcohol and food consumption trends as changing demographics impact legacy players.
“The underperformance [of international markets] is turned, and yes, they're underinvested.” — Tim Seymour [26:51]
