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A debate over government regulation in the AI industry is intensifying after models built by OpenAI and Anthropic were able to access the open internet during testing and hack into various public organizations and accounts. There are growing calls to slow the pace of development so that safety and security measures can catch up. But how does the Trump administration feel about that? And are top AI executives even on the same page?

For more: Anthropic said its AI models hacked into other companies’ systems during testing

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Guests: Jennifer Ji, Center for Security and Emerging Technology & Hadas Gold, CNN AI Correspondent

Host: David Rind

Producer: Paola Ortiz

Showrunner: Felicia Patinkin

Senior Director of Podcasts: Zach Goldbaum

Photo: Nathan Howard/Reuters

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