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Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley
Choosing Your Battles: Christmas In-Law Conflicts
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Kale Lowry
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Kale Lowry
Hate gift giving and receiving.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.
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Kale Lowry
This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Kale, that does not interest me whatsoever.
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Kale Lowry
I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore.
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Lindsay Chrisley
There's a fakery bakery around here.
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Kale Lowry
Here's Kale and Lindsay. Good morning. But good afternoon for us. We're currently having lunch and I thought of a meal idea for you.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Oh, okay. What is the meal idea? I need it.
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Kale Lowry
Okay. So you know how you do like taco bar because you said that your kids all like a different thing.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Yes, they will all up some some variation of taco meal items.
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Kale Lowry
Okay, so do you think that you could buy like mini like charcuterie plates and put out all the stuff and let them make it themselves because they have stuff like this at Sam's and Costco.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Oh my gosh.
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Kale Lowry
The cheeses and like all the things.
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Lindsay Chrisley
You know what? I think I don't give enough credit to like snack plates and stuff for dinners. Someone suggested a snack plate for dinners on my Instagram story and I didn't even think of that. But charcuterie would be a great one. Especially because all of my kids like some type of meat. Like I could put those meats and cheeses out. I love that idea. Thank you, I appreciate that.
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Kale Lowry
And then like pickles and like variations of pickles you could put on there if Your kids will eat olives. Like different variations of olives. Fruits.
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Lindsay Chrisley
No.
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Kale Lowry
That's such an idea. This meat's so good. I got it from Sam's. It's from Italy and 1911.
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Lindsay Chrisley
I love that.
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Kale Lowry
I don't think the meat's from 1911. I think the company is from 1911. But basically, I am a seasoned charcuterie person. I feel like also this time of year is when I eat the most charcuterie.
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Lindsay Chrisley
I don't eat enough charcuterie. I do get the little. I think they're by Sargentino. The little snack packs that have nuts, cranberries, and cashews or almond. And it's like cheese, nuts, cranberries, and then same for the other one. It's like some form of nut and then cheese and a fruit. But I love those. And the babies, the twins specifically. I usually take one in an energy drink with me on the road to go in the morning to drop into school. Well, then they want them. And they're. They're only this big, so it's not like I can share. So now I'm bringing three of them and putting them in the back with them so they can eat. And then I'm eating on the way to school, which is so funny to me.
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Kale Lowry
Well, I can tell you if you're trying to be a sandy saver, go and buy the large packs from, like, Sam's Club. I feel like Sam's Club is such an underrated place. And when I go, I just feel so proud of myself. I'm like, I really did something this week. Like, I went and got bundle toilet paper. I got bundle paper towels. I got my Tide pods. Wait, let me back up for a second. Are you a detergent pour or a pod user?
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Lindsay Chrisley
Detergent at home and pods. If I'm at an Airbnb, Okay.
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Kale Lowry
No, I am doing detergent nowhere because I can't seem to not make a mess. Like, it's gooey, like, everywhere. And then I have to take this stupid thing out. It's like you just put a pod in there, it just goes away.
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Lindsay Chrisley
I'm crying right now. I don't. I'm a big detergent girly. That's so funny, love.
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Kale Lowry
Did you see.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Are.
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Kale Lowry
Are you into Wicked?
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Lindsay Chrisley
I did go see the new movie Wicked. I'm not. Here's the thing. I'm not like this, like, big wicked girly. I was the last person on earth to see the first one, and I saw it at home. I think it was on Amazon. We bought it, watched it with Elliot thought it was cute. Elliot wanted to go see the second one. I did take him to go see it. I thought it was cute. But I'm not. I'm not a big. Like, I'm not a big wicked. Like, I am, but, like, I think it's cute, but I'm not like, a big wicked girly, if that makes sense.
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Kale Lowry
I've never watched anything Wicked. The reason I was asking was because when I was doing my little, like, stroll through Target, which I should never do because the amount of random shit that ends up in my cart that I absolutely do not need is ridiculous. But GAIN came out with the little scent beads, and it's like, a wicked one. The. The beads, like, it smells so good.
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Lindsay Chrisley
I have not tried them. I think Elliot would probably love it. I got Elliot both of the perfumes from Ulta, and they do smell really good. But I'm not, like, honestly, kind of genius marketing, if I'm being honest. Like, here's the thing. And. And I don't. People like me are packaged girlies. So, like, if I see a packaging and I like it, I don't care if the movie that is about to come out is absolutely awful. If you brand the big things that people have to use with that. The GAIN collab with the Wicked movie was genius.
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Kale Lowry
Genius. Like, it's so genius. I wish they could have, like, partnered with Alani, but I feel like Alani doesn't do collabs with anybody. The only one that I know of.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Kim Kardashian, they did one with Addison Rae. Kim Kardashian. They also did a. They also just got sold to Pepsi or whatever. No, no, Celsius or Pepsi, whoever. They sold it for, like, $2 billion or something. That would be. That would have been a really, really good marketing. If they did a wicked collab with Alani, that would have been genius.
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Kale Lowry
So I'm back on the Alani same.
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Lindsay Chrisley
I just.
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Kale Lowry
I was off it, but now I'm back on it. And somebody was asking me the other day, they were like, have you tried the Christmas Salani? And I said, yeah, Kayl and I tried it last year and it tastes like Christmas trees. And I'm not a fan. But, like, my favorite thing every single year in the fall is the witch's brew when it comes out. And I use the little nugget ice and I pour my witch's brew on top, and then I'd use the, like, little caramel drizzle slap.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Never thought of doing that.
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Kale Lowry
I'm not your mama. If you had One.
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Lindsay Chrisley
I'm not a huge fan of the witch's brew. It just. I don't know. I loved it when it first came out, but typically, I'm a ghost girly. And my favorite, favorite, most favorite flavor of ghost is raspberry cream. I think I bought the last two cases of it on earth. Love. Love ghost. But I also do like Aulani, and I'm back on a Lonnie. Why? Because they sold it, that's why.
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Kale Lowry
Oh, my God. No, I do not like ghosts at all. That one ghost that you tried to make me drink that had the Sour Patch Kids on it or whatever. I'm like, what the am I doing?
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Lindsay Chrisley
Okay, can you. When you come here again, will you try raspberry cream?
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Kale Lowry
Yes, I will try raspberry cream. Because I do like cream, and I do like raspberry.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Okay, deal. Because I read the raspberry cream is my alt. I'm looking at the two cases I bought. I can't find it individually anywhere, and I can't find the full cases of, like. The only cases of ghosts that I can find are the variety pack. And I'm not a variety packer. Like, I have not found a combination of the variety that I like. Like. It's like, I like one and not the other two, or I like two, and I don't like the one, and I don't want to waste it.
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Kale Lowry
So, see, that's how companies, like, really get us. Because I feel like that somewhat about Gatorade. You know, we're a Gatorade House Drink. Gatorade. 0. There are certain flavors in the mixed packs, like the variety packs, that I can't get behind. So those are always, like, left. And then it's when you're in a pinch and you don't have anything else, then you'll drink it because you don't want to be a waster. But it's like, a flavor I would never choose.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah, I like the ghost. Welch. Welch's grape Juice. Flavored Ghost. Absolutely the fuck not.
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Kale Lowry
See, I probably would like it because I love Welch's Grape grape juice, and I also, like, love. It's giving like, Fanta Grape. And I can get behind that. Do you know that I drank, like, my weight and Fanta Grape when I was in college? Really like my weight in it.
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Lindsay Chrisley
That's so funny. I'm. I'm not a huge grape flavor girly.
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Kale Lowry
Really? Wait, what do you think the most underrated fruit is?
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Lindsay Chrisley
I'm not fruit girly in general. I just don't. I'm never gonna gravitate towards fruit. Underrated fruit flavor. Raspberry. I don't feel like that's an underrated raspberry. I think people sleep on those flavors.
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Kale Lowry
Okay. Do you like marancino cherries? They're, like, the fake ones that, like, are swimming in that juice.
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Lindsay Chrisley
I do.
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Kale Lowry
I knew you would like that. I hate a Marantino, Jerry. Like, I hate it, Jackson.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Well, my mom used to have me sit at the bar with her. They would always give me, like. I don't know if it's because she was there all the time, that the bartenders would just, like, give me whatever. They used to give me the whole entire jar.
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Kale Lowry
Wait, you went to the bar with your mom?
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Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah. Oh, I spent countless nights sitting at the bar. Like, not just in the presence of the bar, at the bar. Like, I was sitting there, I would eat chips, then I'd get up and go play Pac man sometimes. Because sometimes my mom would not give me money to play, but sometimes, like, the other patrons, like, that my mom didn't even know. Sometimes they would give me money to go play the games because they probably knew that it was wrong that I was there. So they would, like, go give me money to play the games. Yeah. I would sit right at the bar, or I'd cry in the car, either way.
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Kale Lowry
And she would just, like, let all of that transpire, and nothing.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Nothing. And nobody would. Nobody would call the cops. Nobody would come get me. Nobody. Nothing.
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Kale Lowry
I'm like, how did the company like. Of the bar that you went to not call CPS?
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Lindsay Chrisley
The bars multiple. The Pines, Pats, AJ's, the Limerick on Main Street. I don't even know if some of them are. Even the Pines got bought out. It's some. It's called something else now. All of them, I think they just.
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Kale Lowry
I'm imagining this is like a Cheers bar.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Like the bar on Cheers.
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Kale Lowry
Yeah.
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Lindsay Chrisley
I don't know. Like, they were like, hole in the wall. Like, what I would picture, like, a dive bar. What is it?
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Kale Lowry
I mean, those are the best places if you're gonna go. I mean, would not recommend taking a.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Child to one dive bar, though.
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Kale Lowry
A dive bar is, like, giving, like, crusty, rusty, and it might smell like Pine Sol in there.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Hole in the wall.
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Kale Lowry
Yeah, it's like a hole in the wall. Everything looks, like, really old and, like, dated.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Yep. That's the type of bars that my mom was at. And usually she worked at them too. So she would work there, and then she would take me in her off hours that she wasn't Working with stays.
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Kale Lowry
To go to a bar, like, in your big age of 33, would you choose to go to a dive bar or, like, a chic, like, restaurant bar?
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Lindsay Chrisley
I, Emily and I went to, I would say the closest bar to, like, what my mom used to take me to. The difference, it was like a bar, but it was like a bar restaurant. And they also have a DJ there sometimes. And honestly, I could get behind that. That was a good time. Like, I would be willing to go back, like, even now, like, if I don't have my kids, the two weeks that I don't have my kids, around Christmas, like, if Emily asked me to.
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Kale Lowry
Go out, I would go, like, I'm gonna be there.
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Lindsay Chrisley
I might only get a Coke. I'm not gonna get liquor. But, like, I would go to just because the vibes. It was more the vibes. It was like, okay, like, you could drink, but there was food also. And so it's not like you're just going to drink only where. Like, the bars that I picture, because of my mom, there was no food served there. None.
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Kale Lowry
Okay. Like, one of my most favorite local places is it's a local chain, so they've got different ones, like, all around, but there's one that's really close to my house, and it's kind of like a all in one situation. Like, if you want to go and hang out there and, like, grab drinks with friends and listen to music and watch games, like, you can do that. But then also it's family friendly, so you can take your kids there and they have, like, a local bakery with cakes and stuff like that in their kids meals, like an entire bar menu. But then you also could go in there on, like, a Friday night and have a good time.
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Lindsay Chrisley
See, like, I could get behind that because I never. For me. And I don't know if it's because I grew up with my mom, like, at the bar. And so I've always had a very negative view of bars. I could get. Like, I never understood how People physically go to these holes in the walls and. And sit at the bar for hours and hours and hours and socialize and talk to friends or. Or don't literally just sit there by themselves like you see in the movies. Like, I never understood that. Like, even Becky, for example, like, she was. Used to be a really big drinker and she like, oh, at the bar. Or like, Kristen has told me store stories about her and Corey going to the bar. What would make you want to go to a bar? Like, I just couldn't understand it. But like, when you're talking about DJ and a full menu and it's. Could be family friendly, but also about, like, I could get behind that.
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Kale Lowry
I mean, I can say, like, I've been to a bar and sat there by myself and read my Kindle.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah. But I could also get behind that. But also, if you're gonna read your Kindle, why not just go to the liquor store, get the liquor and go home?
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Kale Lowry
Oh, I wasn't drinking liquor at that time. I just went to the bar, like, for the vibes. There was sports playing. I went and got some boneless wings and.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Okay, to me, you're going to the bar, but it's not for the bar.
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Kale Lowry
Correct. Yes.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Okay.
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Kale Lowry
And I was just. You should have seen the people that were looking at me like, reading my Kindle. They're like, who did you become?
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Lindsay Chrisley
I just. Speaking of Kindles, I just redid my Kindle for Christmas. The video of me doing it. I put my skull Christmas back in my thing in there with the Christmas strap for decoration and have the mad wife, and I'm halfway through.
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Kale Lowry
I could get behind the. The Christmas Kindle. Mine's not decorated. Like, you did send me the inserts, but I just haven't got around to it yet, you know?
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Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah, no, I get it.
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Kale Lowry
I'm more focused spending my time on actually reading the book and not decorating.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah.
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Kale Lowry
Which. Speaking of decorating, what are we decorating? I still have not put up my.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Christmas tree at this point. Don't kill.
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Kale Lowry
You literally can't say that.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah. No, because it's today while we're recording is the eighth. But like, I mean, you're only gonna have it up for two weeks at this point now anyway. So what is the point?
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Kale Lowry
I mean, the point is, is that I said I was gonna do it, and if I didn't say that I was gonna do it, then I just wouldn't do it, but now I feel like I need to do it.
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Lindsay Chrisley
My friend Sterling, and this is probably highly controversial because there's no yearly memories of, like, putting the Christmas tree together and, like, redecorating it and hanging the ornaments as a family. There's absolutely no memory of that. She does her Christmas tree elaborately, and then she does it every so many years, and then she covers it with a tarp and puts it in the garage exactly how it is. And then when she pulls it back out every year, it is the exact same thing as last year. She does not take off the ornaments. She does not put the ornaments away. They do not redecorate it every year. And I actually love that idea for people who do not care about the decorating itself.
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Kale Lowry
We used to decorate our tree when I was married the day after Thanksgiving, and Jackson would, like, do the ornaments and stuff. Then when we got divorced, I only put up a tree, like, every other year, depending on the year that I had him for Christmas. Will puts up a tree every year. His Christmas tree and his ornaments look wild as. But, like, that's not my husband anymore. You know what I mean?
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Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah. Yeah. That's not my life.
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Kale Lowry
Have you ever gone into, like, one of your ex's houses before, and you're just like, what's actually going on? Yeah, like, who told you that looked good? And, like, why is that there?
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Lindsay Chrisley
Yep. Or, you know what I mean? The fascination of people in general. Like, I remember. I think it was coffee combos. When I'm like, I don't. I just want to know how you and your ex operated. It's sort of that way when I break up with someone, and because I have kids with everyone I've dated, oftentimes I've been to their house after we've broken up, and I'm just like, how did you go from what we used to do together to, like, this, like, weird way of life? Because, like, do you not adopt certain things that come out of a relationship? Do you not adopt that for your own individual life just by default?
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Kale Lowry
Some of it, I think, is maybe an expression of, now I'm, like, free to do what I want.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Okay.
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Kale Lowry
I think that's some of it. Some of it's just lazy as hell.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Oh, my gosh. I just, like, can't. Like, I always wonder, like, how did you go from this to that? I don't get it.
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Kale Lowry
I mean, I don't know. Kale, why did. Did I tell you the story about my ex husband calling me to help move him a concrete countertop?
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Lindsay Chrisley
Yes. How'd that go?
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Kale Lowry
Wait, so I didn't tell you, like, how it went? I Just told you I was doing it.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Yes.
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Kale Lowry
Okay. So I get there, and I'm like, come on, let's get the show on the road. Let's do this.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Well, I just want to know. You're, like, 100 pounds soaking wet. So, like, what help were you gonna be? It's not like you called me and.
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Kale Lowry
Becky emotional support, I guess. I don't know. I get there, and I go to the basement because that's where he. He has made these concrete countertops himself. Okay? And I will say he is super handy person. Like, he will do projects, and he does them right. But it would drive me nuts if we were married. Like, none of that stuff would have ever been transpiring if we. We were married. Because if you think that my bathroom's going to be torn, just slap the up for three months. Because you're trying to figure out what type of new, like, tile cutter that you're getting, and we're just gonna sit on. No, we're not doing that. That's never happening. We're hiring professional. He makes these concrete countertops. I go downstairs. This thing is a whole island.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Like, that's kind of what I pictured, actually.
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Kale Lowry
Like, that's how big it was. And I looked at him and I said, what am I supposed to do with this? He was like, just get over there and lift it up.
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Lindsay Chrisley
And I'm like, the countertop, the concrete slab, a fraction of it weighed more than you. What did he think you were gonna do?
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Kale Lowry
But somehow I helped him get it on. Like, those little dolly things, like will around. So I'm like, helping him wheel it around. And he goes, okay, I need you to put all of your strength into this. And I go, lift it. Nothing happens. Okay? And he goes, you got it. And I'm like, no. No, I don't. Next thing I know, some random man's walking through the basement. He's like, you need to hold this slab right here on this. These wheels like that. I have it on. You need to do this right now. He disappears for, like, five minutes. I'm holding this countertop up, and some random man comes in. And I'm like, oh, hey. Like, I'm sorry that I couldn't do the job, but unfortunately, like, I'm not big enough to lift an entire concrete island. And that is reason 1021 why we're no longer married.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Him and Elijah might do good if they went into business together.
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Kale Lowry
Could they just be roommates?
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Lindsay Chrisley
I mean, he's always down for a project, and it Sounds like Will is too. I don't know what he thought you were gonna do.
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Kale Lowry
I. I don't either. But the amount of construction that has gone on in that house, and I need to know the people that are listening to this. Can you live in a construction zone? Because I cannot.
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Lindsay Chrisley
No. And that was part of the decision making. When I wanted to, like, possibly add an addition to my current home versus building a new one was like, what would that look like for the construction? And ultimately, it would not be a livable space for a long time. And there's no rentals that would accommodate seven children, plus myself and animals. So that was, like, ultimately why we put. One of the reasons, the very many reasons. No, I don't think that we could live in a rental or. Sorry, I don't think we could live in a renovation area. I guess it also depends what room and stuff, but a kitchen. I mean, for him, Will. Will only has Jackson half the time, so I could see how he could live like that. But for, you know. And you're also very anal about stuff like that.
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Kale Lowry
If you think I'm going without a kitchen for more than day, it's just not happening. I went to Pilates the other day, and there's this retired teacher that is now a Pilates instructor, and she tells us about her renovations all the time. And she's like, well, my kitchen's being renovated, so I'm using my crock pot in my bathroom. And then it's like, a couple of weeks later, she comes back and she's like, well, now my bathroom's being renovated, so I'm brushing my teeth in the kitchen, and I'm like, no, teeth are meant to be brushed in a bathroom. And crock pots, like, where there's so much hair and, like, where you bathe. Crock pots in a bathroom. No, like, I understand people do it, but I'm just not cut out.
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Lindsay Chrisley
I wouldn't be able to do it for the simple fact that I have too many kids. Like, I can't. That would not work. I know my. When my cousin was renovating her house, she has a brownstone in Hoboken, and I'm pretty sure she, like, lived in a rental while it was. But she only has three. They only have. They only have three kids, so to make and could do a rental. But, like, I can't take seven kids and a doll and dogs and everybody to a rental. Like, that's not going to work.
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Kale Lowry
Could you imagine, like, a rental company seeing you coming with all of your kids and Dogs and animals would not.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Even rent to me.
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Kale Lowry
You would have an eviction notice before you even got there.
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Lindsay Chrisley
1000%.
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Kale Lowry
Okay, so we're doing. We kind of got off on a tangent, but we were supposed to be doing a Christmas themed episode and we have some listener write ins. The first person says hi ladies. I always love how these start like hi ladies. Yeah, like should we get like merch like hi ladies.
- [25:46]
Lindsay Chrisley
Hey ladies. Yeah, that's cute. That would be so cute. Trigger warning. If you have kids in the car that still believe in Santa or if you are still doing Santa magic, fast forward this. Do not listen to this in the car around children.
- [25:58]
Kale Lowry
I'm 31, have three kids, six, four and two. And this is our first year hosting Christmas. My in laws pulled me aside last weekend and told me that they think that we should phase out Santa because they feel like it's lying to children and promotes materialism. Meanwhile, I have a brand new 300 Santa setup ready to go. Cookies, reindeer food, matching pajamas, the whole magic. They told my husband that it if we continue with Santa, they will tell the kids the truth to protect them. I told my husband, if his mother wants to start a war, I'll hand her the sword myself.
- [26:25]
Lindsay Chrisley
I don't understand, like, why this goes back to our conversation about in laws and like, you know, trusting the moms. Why would someone feel like it is their job as not the parents of the child to put these types of opinions on somebody else? Like, yes, I do believe there is an over consumerism problem. Right? Like whatever. And not everyone can afford Santa or like other kids are not in a position to, you know, maybe Santa doesn't come to their house. But like, that is not up for somebody's family members to dictate to the parents of the children. That is not. You don't get to do that. And the way that you would never see your grandkids again until after they come to the realization that Santa is not real on their own. Why the does a grand set of grandparents or aunts and uncles think that that is acceptable? Okay. Or anything?
- [27:15]
Kale Lowry
What I'm thinking based off of what this person is writing is that these in laws are likely very religious people.
- [27:22]
Lindsay Chrisley
I don't give a. That is not okay. Like, I don't. We don't do Santa. But I understand that some families do and I'm advocating for the families that do. It's not up to you.
- [27:33]
Kale Lowry
I mean, we've done Santa and the elf and you know, all the things like done the pajamas, the reindeer food, the cookies, the putting out carrots. Like, we've done all of that. But at the point that Jackson realized that it was not real, I did have a conversation with him. Like, it's something fun that like parents do for their children. And at the point that you don't know, like, you don't believe in it anymore, now we have to have a bigger conversation of like, what the reason for the season is. And I know you're not religious, but I really am trying to focus with him on, like, it's not about the presence. It's about the time that's being spent with your family that you are making a choice to spend that time with. Right. And we don't need to be so consumed on what we're getting or what somebody else is getting. We need to be focused on taking that time to intentionally spend it with family. And I also think that there's a whole other argument with Santa that I didn't even realize until Jackson was in elementary school. And I think I told you about this before that there was a situation at school where one of the kids had gone and said that Santa was bringing them a PS5.
- [28:53]
Lindsay Chrisley
Okay, I remember the story. Yep, I do remember it.
- [28:56]
Kale Lowry
And the other child was like, I want a PS5. Right? Like, I want to have a PS5 and I'm going to ask Santa for that. Well, if that's not within, you know, that family's budget to be able to do that, it makes it seem like this fictitious Santa Claus is going to be bringing gifts like that to another child, but not the one for the parents who can't afford it. And I just think that that's very wrong.
- [29:23]
Lindsay Chrisley
No, there's no doubt. But like, what is the solution? I don't know that there's a solution for like, the kids that don't get to have Santa versus the ones that do.
- [29:33]
Kale Lowry
I, I think with society today, we have to look at what our kids are exposed to and like, I think children should be able to be children. And what you want to do in your home is what you choose to do in your home. It's very easy for kids now to not like, carry the Christmas magic of Santa when they're being exposed to social media and other friends who don't celebrate they're being told at school. Like, I feel like when we were growing up, nobody was going around narcing at the Santa wasn't real.
- [30:01]
Lindsay Chrisley
No. That's actually really interesting that you say that because I, my mom stopped celebrating Christmas altogether when I, by the time I was 13, but I obviously didn't believe in Santa for a long time before that. And I don't remember any types of conversations at school about it. And what's so funny, Lincoln asked me last night. So in their culture and hobby's Guatemalan culture, there is no Santa at all. And everybody only celebrates Christmas Eve and you open all your presents, but Santa doesn't bring them. It's your family members. And so Lincoln sort of never really did Santa to begin with, but he told me that Elliot told him that Santa wasn't real. So whatever little hope that Lincoln did have, I don't know if he ever actually believed in Santa. But I do think that, you know, an older sibling telling a younger sibling, although sad, it does happen. But like in school, I don't remember anyone ever talking about that, but now the kids do, that makes me, that actually breaks my heart, honestly.
- [31:03]
Kale Lowry
And like, remember when we were in elementary school, like back in the 90s, we always had like, it was called Christmas parties, not holiday parties. And I do think that that's A good switch. I can get behind that. Because all holidays around the Christmas time should be celebrated whatever you're celebrating. So I agree with that switch. But like, we did so many fun things. Like the entire week going into the Christmas holiday, if you celebrate Christmas was like crossword puzzles and word searches and like baked goods and you no longer. You could bring baked goods that like moms made at home, like custom little cupcakes that your mom's made. Now you have these parties. They either don't have holiday parties, which I'm pretty sure that Jackson hasn't had a holiday party in like three years. But you can't bring anything that's like homemade. And I'm like, that to me, was the magic of Christmas.
- [32:00]
Lindsay Chrisley
I agree. But I think because everybody is. Everything has to be inclusive. Everything has to be. I don't even know how to say it without hurting someone's feelings. Everyone's too sensitive. It's like, we can't celebrate Christmas because What about these 12 other holidays? Okay, fine, we can include those or I guess, but if you include those and everybody else can't participate. So it's like it's become the. This, like everybody's, you know, shouldn't we.
- [32:29]
Kale Lowry
Just be celebrating the holidays for what they are? Because I do believe in being inclusive. Like, everybody should be celebrated for whatever it is that they believe. So like I said, I agree with like the moving away from the Christmas parties and then be being called holiday parties now. But like, truly, I don't know of many schools that even do the holiday parties anymore. So it just, I don't know, it's just so crazy. But back to the mother in law, I can tell you right now, if my, if my ex mother in law told my child at any point that Santa wasn't real or threatened me and said, I'm telling him that Santa's not real and you're lying to him. I'm planning your death. Like, that is so inappropriate. Like, I don't. If I had another child, I don't know that I would do Santa.
- [33:19]
Lindsay Chrisley
Though it should. For, for me, it's always just been easier to not. I also, we've talked about this before. I know people who do. Like, the one big gift is from Santa and everything else is from parents, or the opposite or everything is from Santa. I've met people who do every single thing is from Santa. So I think it's whatever works for your family. I don't judge.
- [33:41]
Kale Lowry
I mean, the only thing I'm going to say about that is, you know, it kind of also takes away from the work that the parents are doing all year long for their children, you know, and so if we are telling our kids that every gift is from Santa and he just came down this chimney and he put all of the gifts there, like, what about your hard work and the stuff that you did that was extra to make sure that your kids had. I don't know. I just, like, can't get. I can't get behind it in the way that I used to could.
- [34:09]
Lindsay Chrisley
Used to could.
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Kale Lowry
Used to could. Okay, next person. Again. Hi, ladies. Love y' all endlessly. Please keep me anonymous because I do not want to start World War iii. Why? What the. What is wrong with these mother in laws? My mother in law insists on coming over to help decorate for Christmas since it's our first year with our new house. Sweet. In theory, but every time she comes over, she moves my decorations, like, literally rearranges my mantle, my tree ornaments, my garland, everything. And she'll say things like, oh, honey, it's cute, but it would look better over here. Or, you must be so exhausted. Let me fix the tree for you. Fix the tree? I spent two hours putting ribbon on it last week. She straight up undecorated half of my tree and said, let's try a more elegant theme. Ma', am, I have toddlers. We are not living in the Biltmore mansion. My boyfriend says that she means well, but I'm one candy cane away from losing it. How do I set boundaries without ruining Christmas?
- [35:03]
Lindsay Chrisley
This is me. Just let her. Like, this goes into, like, the overly sensitive everything. Like, great. We know your mother in law doesn't need to move everything, but if it's just going to shut her the fuck up, let her do it.
- [35:19]
Kale Lowry
This is the mostly thing I've ever read in my life.
- [35:23]
Lindsay Chrisley
Like, it screams Todd Chrisley for real. And I. And I only know him from tv. I don't really know him in real life. I. That is, you have to choose your battles and that is giving. Like, I have a friend that used to do that to me. My mom used to be that way. And it's just one of those things where it's like, just let them move your decorations. Like, truly, just. It's not worth it, y'.
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Kale Lowry
I so don't care about it. To the point that.
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Kale Lowry
And maybe it's because I grew up with a parent like that that they would just come. Even my nanny does stuff like that. Like rearrange my salt shakers or something near my. You know, it doesn't matter. Sometimes the cleaners will rearrange my bookshelves. And I'm like, oh, that looks nice.
- [36:06]
Lindsay Chrisley
Like, actually, Kristen had told Rebecca. Rebecca is my personal assistant. Rebecca wanted to do my bookshelves. And Kristen was like, no, she'll kill you. And I'm like, no. In real life, I. I want her to do it. Like, please help.
- [36:21]
Kale Lowry
I don't know. But going into someone's home, I just, I don't know. I feel like that person should look at it from a completely different perspective. Because if you have a parent, whether it be like an in law or your parents coming in your house and they feel comfortable enough to like be doing that stuff for you and think that they're helping, just like, let it fly.
- [36:42]
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah. Like, choose your battle. I know, it's probably so annoying. I know, because she said she's one candy cane away. But like, look at the bigger picture and really just choose your battles. You don't want to ruin Christmas or the relationship with your family member over moving your Christmas decorations. And Yes, I do. It's like, it's nuanced, right? Because it's like, you do need to set boundaries, but also like, don't let hit the fan because of that.
- [37:06]
Kale Lowry
Wait, do you, like, ever look at people's reels on how they decorate for Christmas? And it's like, I know that shit took you guys three weeks to do it. Like, what are you doing? Why do you have so many knickknacks?
- [37:22]
Lindsay Chrisley
Like, I have a love hate relationship with seeing other people do it because for me it just feels like so much work, so much effort for very little reward. But that also is, like, nuanced because I don't have the same love for the holidays that these people have. So for me, it's a lot of effort, a lot of work, a lot of money, a lot of time for little reward. But for the people who do that, and it's taking three weeks to decorate for your house for Christmas is like, you must love Christmas so much that it's worth it.
- [37:54]
Kale Lowry
Okay. Do you remember that brand? It's called like Department 57 or something like that. And they had these little, like, villages, like Christmas villages. And then they have like the little ornaments called snow babies and they Sets.
- [38:13]
Lindsay Chrisley
No, I made that up. Nativity sets.
- [38:16]
Kale Lowry
Nativity, yeah, they do have Nativity, but they have like all these little villages that you can purchase and they were very expensive. And when I tell you my mom's parents would spend weeks putting out this Christmas village, I mean, it took up. They had turned, like, a carport situation into an extension of their home. And that entire room was filled with, like, Christmas villages. And, I mean, obviously they didn't have anything else to be doing. They're retired people. But it's like, you did all of that to just have to box it back up.
- [38:54]
Lindsay Chrisley
It's not gonna. It's not for me. It's never gonna be for me. I also made a grave mistake when building my house. If I ever wanted to get into the holidays. I do not have any storage. Like, I you not. I have no attic. Like, I have an attic, but it's not, like, able to be used for storage. My garage, one bay. I have two bays. One bay is completely already used. Like, borderline busting at the seams. And then we can fit one car in the other bay. I do not have hallway closets. I do not have linen closets. My one bathroom upstairs is completely missed. Actually, two bathrooms upstairs are completely missing closets altogether. So I don't have anywhere to put anything. So that is another reason, like, someone. I think it was Becky. Last week, she suggested, why don't you do a holiday at Kale's house? What? Maybe not Christmas exactly, but, like, why don't you come up with a Kale day Lowry themed, like, mandatory tradition every single year? And it sounds good, and I. I actually want to do it. I want to implement it, but I literally have nowhere to put. And I'm not being dramatic. Like, I'm genuinely not being. I don't have closets. I don't have space. I don't have storage.
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Kale Lowry
Curiosity, when you were, like, in the building process.
- [41:57]
Lindsay Chrisley
No. The builder and the architect. Neither one of them. Neither one of them said, hey, you don't have any storage.
- [42:03]
Kale Lowry
And I mean, I know that you had three less children whenever you move there, but that's still doesn't, like, negate the fact that you would have needed storage in a bathroom or.
- [42:14]
Lindsay Chrisley
I don't even have a hall closet upstairs. Like, a closet. Hall closet. You know how people have halls for, like, I don't know, sheets, blankets, knickknack. I don't know. I don't even have that.
- [42:27]
Kale Lowry
You said knickknacks. Like, when I tell you there is. There is nothing that drives me more crazy than knickknacks. Like, nothing.
- [42:37]
Lindsay Chrisley
I'm not that type of person. I'm not. I'm not saving that. I'm not keeping that. Like, I'm not.
- [42:43]
Kale Lowry
Speaking of knickknacks, you know what Jackson asked for for Christmas? And I'm like, please. No. Like, please.
- [42:50]
Lindsay Chrisley
The little resin toys.
- [42:51]
Kale Lowry
No, he asked for a 3D printer so he can make, like, hold on. Let me find something low key.
- [42:57]
Lindsay Chrisley
If you get him one, can he make me some stuff?
- [42:59]
Kale Lowry
Okay, hold on. Show you things that were made off of a 3D printer. This is so that we can have. So we can have all of this stuff, like, laying around the house. Like, this drives me nuts.
- [43:11]
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah, that's stuff I don't want. But, like, also, I want a 3D printer. Okay. But he's innovative. He's an engineer. He's an inventor.
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Kale Lowry
This is not a stem or steam house, whatever it's called. It's not like we can. We can buy kits to do that and then, like, throw it all away. I just don't know why. I mean, why we need this many knickknacks. It. It truly drives me nuts.
- [43:37]
Lindsay Chrisley
Like the small little things, you gift them to family. Members for Christmas, you give Will's parents, you make an ornament out of it, drill a hole and make it an ornament. A Christmas ornament kill.
- [43:49]
Kale Lowry
Do you know how tacky that is?
- [43:51]
Lindsay Chrisley
You asked for a solution and I'm telling you to use Will as his handy skills that you just said and have him drill holes in that, throw some yarn on that and put the year on it and gift it for the Christmas tree.
- [44:06]
Kale Lowry
Can you imagine him drilling a hole through this thing's head and like putting a hook on it?
- [44:11]
Lindsay Chrisley
Yes, I can.
- [44:12]
Kale Lowry
Effort that would go into that. It's like, let's just go to Target and buy an ornament. Like, we don't need to do all that. You know what I mean?
- [44:19]
Lindsay Chrisley
Goodbye. Okay.
- [44:23]
Kale Lowry
The next person says, oh, now we're the kitties. Hi kitties. I love you both and, and I hope that you can help. We've never helped anybody. My sister in law has this habit of bringing tons of Christmas gifts for my kids, but then telling them they can't open them until later. She literally takes them back home with her. She says she likes storing them so the kids have a reason to come over more.
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Kale Lowry
My kids, she even took their stockings last year so she could refill them later and she lives an hour away. My husband doesn't want to say anything because he says that's just how she is, but I'm done. Is this normal behavior? I feel like she's emotionally shoplifting my children.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Wait, what does she do?
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Kale Lowry
So apparently she has a habit of bringing tons of Christmas gifts for her kids, but then she tells them they can't open them until later and then she literally takes them back home with her.
- [45:19]
Lindsay Chrisley
Why would someone do that?
- [45:21]
Kale Lowry
I don't know, but I, I quite frankly feel like this is shoplifting. Like could you imagine, could you imagine showing up at someone's house with little kids with gifts and let's just say like hypothetically they open them and then you're like, I hope that you love it. And then you go to leave and you bag up all this stuff and you're like, well, when you come to my house you can play with it.
- [45:45]
Lindsay Chrisley
That's what she's doing. Yeah, literally. No, I just got done saying to choose your battles and like, don't move decor. Like just let your mother in law move the decorations but do not let your sister in law do that. Absolutely. That's like the same argument as like, you know, when people that have children and then their extended families expect them to bring the children to 12 different places on Christmas day and they have to leave all their toys that they keep getting at each spot. They have to leave them, pack up, and then go to the next place. To me, that's like highway robbery. Like, let the kids play with the fucking toys that they got. Stop expecting to take the children to every fucking everybody's house. Adults come to my house because I'm not ripping my kids from all the toys they just got. It's the same concept, actually. Don't. Even if you're going to take the kids gifts with you back home, just.
- [46:32]
Kale Lowry
Don'T buy them anything at all.
- [46:33]
Lindsay Chrisley
Buy them gifts, like, literally because they think that they're theirs. And then you're taking them back to your house and saying, oh, well, I want them to come play at my house. No, then you need to go buy them toys for your house specifically that live at your house that are not related to Christmas. Like, that is not normal behavior. And that is a battle that I would. That is a. That's a battle I would pick.
- [46:53]
Kale Lowry
I would just, quite frankly, if that happened to me one time, that person would never be welcome back into my home.
- [46:59]
Lindsay Chrisley
That's a hill I'll die on.
- [47:01]
Kale Lowry
Hill I will die on. No, I. I think that the gift giving thing, I just hate it just in general. When I was married, we moved to like white elephant gifting for the adult. So everybody got like one thing that they had on their list, which I loved. And then we only did gifts for the kids. But never could I ever imagine, like, for my nephew, taking him something that would have been on his list that his parents told me about. I buy it, he opens it, plays with it, and then I'm like, oh, while I'm getting my leftovers, I'm also taking your toy. And if you want to play with it, you can come to my house. Like, that's bribery if I've ever seen it.
- [47:47]
Lindsay Chrisley
My sister and my niece just came to visit and like right before Thanksgiving and I took her to Target to get some stuff. And that would be like, literally. Oh, but we can leave them at my house. You can play them, play with them when you come visit. No, she took them with her and anything that didn't fit in her fucking suitcase, I shipped it.
- [48:05]
Kale Lowry
Oh, you shipped it?
- [48:06]
Lindsay Chrisley
Yes.
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Kale Lowry
That's so nice of you.
- [48:09]
Lindsay Chrisley
What the fuck do I. I don't.
- [48:10]
Kale Lowry
What like that. It's so crazy. Back to your point, saying like, kids going like all around places on Christmas Day or Christmas Eve, I hate that also. And that's why as a divorced person, I have enough foresight and enough trauma from my childhood of my parents not knowing how to co parent during the holidays. It's like, if I don't have Jackson on Christmas day, I'm never robbing him from Will's parents being able to see him. He's done that since he was born. Not doing it. That's not a hill that I'm gonna die on because I need Christmas Day. We are going to Disney the 18th through the 23rd. We will come home, he will do his presents from me on Christmas Eve. We will have finger foods and stuff at home. For linear. We're gonna do like a linear. I will drop him off at Wills and then he doesn't have to worry about like splitting time. And if he gets something here that he wants, whether it be like a clothing item or I don't know, like an accessory, whatever it is that I get, I don't mind him taking it there.
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Lindsay Chrisley
That's how I am. I. I just don't. I don't care about that kind of stuff. There are certain things with like clothes that I'm like a little, just at any time of the year, just like a little frustrated if I just got it and they take it over to dad's. But usually I do not care what toys you take on any given day, even if it was the holidays, like, I really don't care. But I think so often I have seen parents and caregivers and guardians and things like that get frustrated with the kids because the kids have to. They're forced to maintain this happy, grateful attitude all day on Thanksgiving and Christmas. But you're literally ripping them from house to house to house to house to house to house. And then you're upset that they're not behaving, or you're upset that they're not grateful, or you're upset that they have to put their toys away. And it's like if you just take a step back, unfortunately, you might not be able to see every family member you have today. But your kids memories of this are way more important than who you're, who you saw. And it's like, why are these adults not coming to you?
- [50:17]
Kale Lowry
Like, I'm a big believer in spending Christmas at home. Like, once you have your children spend Christmas at home, Will and I always spent the night with his parents on Christmas Eve and then we woke up there. So Jackson was kind of getting the same experience, you know what I mean? But then once he got to a certain age and we're Getting bikes and stuff like that. It's like, it's not realistic for us to do that. And we just want to stay at home in our pajamas and have like a hot breakfast and chill and do things at our own pace. Our kids don't. Our kids or us do not need to be in the car going from place to place to place. And in a co parenting situation. I can remember growing up as a kid and like, my parents would sometimes split Christmas Eve, and then like, Christmas Day would be split down the middle. And, you know, my dad's coming. My dad and Julie are coming to pick us up for my mom's if it was her morning. And they're getting there at like 10. So we had maybe two hours. And then my mom's not letting any of our stuff go to the next house, and then we can't take anything from dads back to hers. And it's like, what the. What is this?
- [51:23]
Lindsay Chrisley
No, I hate it. And I wish that more people would. And again, another reason why I don't do Christmas was because of that fight of the splits down the middle. And no matter what's in the custody order, you know, waiting to see a judge for the holiday schedule, and the judge is deciding the holiday schedule never worked for us. And so whatever was in the parenting plan never worked. And this person lives two hours away. And then to me, it's just like, for, like. And I get it, some people are going to write in and they're going to say, well, my sister has kids and, you know, we want to see her. And so the only way to do it is for one of us to get up and leave and go to the other house. Okay, then do it on the 26th.
- [52:02]
Kale Lowry
Advocate for doing things leading up to Christmas and then using the Christmas days for, like, at home family days. And then if you want to do something after Christmas, but the actual days of it, no.
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Lindsay Chrisley
And the kids won't care. Like, that's the other thing is, like, if you celebrate like the same for Thanksgiving, if people are so tired of sports splitting. Thanksgiving, the same thing for Christmas is like, your kids do not care if they have a tradition on the 23rd or the 25th or the 27th. If you decide to do it, just make it happen. Like, I don't. I don't understand why it has to be this. This huge thing. That way you're staying home with your own families for the actual day. Your kids aren't being ripped and run all over. Like, it. Just use your brains, people.
- [52:52]
Kale Lowry
Remember when I told you that. My therapist told me that, like, traditions are what you make them.
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Lindsay Chrisley
Yes.
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Kale Lowry
That doesn't just apply in co parenting. That's like, real life too.
- [53:01]
Lindsay Chrisley
I. I had. My friend Sterling was the first person to say, because she was like, that she had moved to Texas. I don't think she'll care if I'm talking about it. She had moved to Texas, and she has the two kids. Her sister has two kids, and she's like my parent. Our. Her. Both. Her and her sister both live in Texas, but kind of far apart. And then their mom lives. Their parents live in New Mexico. And she's like, I just got tired of taking my kids there and then coming home. And then it's also more work for the parents, especially for single moms or single dads that then have to load the car up, unload the car, unpack it, put it away, do all of that. And so you're adding extra. And so when I texted Sterling about, you know, Christmas this year, she had said that they're gonna. She's gonna meet up with her family after Christmas. I think like a day or two days after Christmas. And it's like, that makes more sense to me because you get to be home with your kids.
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Aura Frames Advertiser
Well.
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Kale Lowry
And I feel like when you are rushing around doing everything, you don't actually get to enjoy it as the adult. Right. Because you are. Oh, well, I've got to get the kids in the car, and then I've got to get the presents, and then I got to. I'm not doing that.
- [54:02]
Lindsay Chrisley
No.
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Kale Lowry
My ass is sitting right here on this golf course.
- [54:06]
Lindsay Chrisley
I remember up Until I was 13ish, we always did Christmas Eve at my grandparents. And then we would pack up the car. My mom would. My mom and whoever she was married to at the time would pack up the car. I would wake up on Christmas morning, home in my own home. And then I want to say we would meet at my great grandmother's in town by, like, 12. And that was kind of doable, but I also. I was the only child and I was the only grandchild, so it wasn't as, like, chaotic. And there was no split household because it was just mine. But I think 12 o' clock was doable. But, like, also, now that I am a mom myself, it's not something I would do likewise.
- [54:48]
Kale Lowry
The next person says, hi, Kayla and Lindsay. Love y'. All. I need outside opinions because this feels weird. Every year, my husband's family does matching Christmas pajamas. Cute. Fine. Whatever. This year, his mom sent us all the same set except she picked out a special, special matching pair just for her and my husband. It's literally the same two piece set, but in a different color and labeled Mommy and Son Christmas Duo. He thought it was adorable. I think it gives. It gives a mild Oedipus vibes. He wants to take pictures in them. I told him I'm uncomfortable and he said it's make. It's making something innocent into something weird. Am I overreacting or is it strange for a married man to take coordinating pajama photos exclusively with his mom?
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Lindsay Chrisley
What is Oedipus?
- [55:34]
Kale Lowry
Yeah, Alessandra.
- [55:36]
Lindsay Chrisley
It's a book that a lot of people read in high school, at least if you're a millennial. And he was in love with his daughter. His mom. I'm sorry? He was in love with his mom. Oh, it's like the Sigmund Freud theory where all children are in love with their opposite sex parent. If my man was taking matching Christmas pajamas with his mother, I'm not gonna be with you.
- [56:02]
Kale Lowry
I'm just not as a grown person. At the point that you're old enough to be somebody, why are you wearing matching PJs with your mom?
- [56:13]
Lindsay Chrisley
Did you guys watch Hunting Wives?
- [56:15]
Kale Lowry
Yes.
- [56:16]
Lindsay Chrisley
It's giving that mom who was in love with her son. Yes, I agree that to me, that's a battle that I am choosing. But, like, at the point that your husband thinks that it's acceptable, and that's okay. Now I have the ick so bad. You can't undo that.
- [56:32]
Kale Lowry
You can't un ick me.
- [56:33]
Lindsay Chrisley
No family pictures. If it's like the grandparents, the parents, the kids, okay, fine. But if it's a grown man and his mother only, the answer is no. We're broken up now.
- [56:43]
Kale Lowry
Now I need to know if, like, this is wild. Like, no.
- [56:51]
Lindsay Chrisley
Because even if it's an only child. No. Like, I. I literally thought of you and Jackson. No, Literally no.
- [56:58]
Kale Lowry
Like, if you saw that.
- [57:00]
Lindsay Chrisley
30 years old and married, and you're like, here, Jackson, I got us pajamas. And it's just the two of us. Not your wife, not your children, just the two of us. That is weird.
- [57:12]
Kale Lowry
Okay, so as I was. First of all, I'm not doing that, but as I was reading this, this made me think of a fight that I got in with somebody many, many moons ago. We would go to the lake in the summertime and you know, like, how guys, we're. I don't know, like basketball shorts. And they don't have, like any underwear on under them. Okay, well, if you wake up in the morning and you have morning wood and you're strolling around in a pair of basketball shorts and your dick's like slinging around like at the point that you're out of your parents home. To me, like, there's a different level of like, I no longer live here so I shouldn't do the things I was doing when I was living here as a teenager. You know what I mean? It's like put on, put on some underwear. Like, why is your mom having to be subjected to your dick slinging around in a pair of basketball shorts?
- [58:09]
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah, no, I would. I mean like, I obviously don't have a great relationship with Susie, but I could not picture myself going to visit her today and then waking up in the morning and not putting, putting a bra on before I go downstairs.
- [58:20]
Kale Lowry
You know what I mean? It's like, let's just have some couth. If, if you look in the mirror when you go and brush your teeth and you see that you can see the outline of your dick on the outside of your pants. Probably not the best way to greet your parents in the morning over eggs and bacon.
- [58:36]
Lindsay Chrisley
I would agree. I think at some point you should be grown.
- [58:41]
Kale Lowry
And I was told, I was told. He was like, well, that's just weird that you would be thinking about that. And I'm like, first of all, it's just weird that you would do it.
- [58:50]
Lindsay Chrisley
I'm trying to think of like my children being adults and coming to visit me. Like, I guess that wouldn't. I anticipate that some of my children are going to live with me until they're 30 years old. So I guess it doesn't really thinking about it from that perspective, like it's not weird, but like, I also don't have a good relationship with my mom and I couldn't imagine like just like walking downstairs in her house with like tits all over the place. Right? Like that just like is weird.
- [59:17]
Kale Lowry
It's just like, you know, at the point that you become grown and like you no longer live there, like that is not your government address.
- [59:25]
Aura Frames Advertiser
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- [59:27]
Lindsay Chrisley
How do you feel, Speaking of that, how do you feel about grown men still using their parents address?
- [59:33]
Kale Lowry
Well, what are they using it for? Are they evading taxes?
- [59:36]
Lindsay Chrisley
Like, oh, just like everything. Like that is their like permanent address. They're sending mail there. If they were to get her arrested, that's what's on their license, like their parents address.
- [59:47]
Kale Lowry
Well, how I feel about that is that's illegal.
- [59:49]
Lindsay Chrisley
Oh, well, don't tell them my baby dads because 50 of them still use it.
- [59:54]
Kale Lowry
That's illegal. Like, I think you have 90 days or something to switch your driver's license address.
- [60:00]
Lindsay Chrisley
Throw Chris in jail.
- [60:02]
Kale Lowry
Like banking records and stuff like that. I'm pretty sure at the point that you move addresses like you're supposed to by law, like change the address on your banking account. What other things would be going to their parents?
- [60:20]
Lindsay Chrisley
House bills, court documents, gun registration. All things.
- [60:27]
Kale Lowry
Well, we know that we know one person that literally has a completely wrong address and a custody order. So, like, don't get me started.
- [60:36]
Lindsay Chrisley
Okay?
- [60:36]
Kale Lowry
Like, not the time for me today.
- [60:39]
Lindsay Chrisley
Now we have foul play for y'. All. And this is also Christmas themed. The time I Accidentally Traumatized my in laws Dog. So last Christmas, my boyfriend and I were staying at his parents house. Everything was super wholesome. Matching pajamas, hot chocolate, Christmas movies. I thought, wow, I'm finally entering my classy era. Plot twist. I was not. We go upstairs to get ready for bed, which in adult language means we were 100% about to do things you shouldn't do under someone else's roof. We tried to be quiet, but at one point he pulls a move that caught me so off guard, I let out this involuntary moan that sounded like a ghost being exercised. At that exact moment, the family dog, a tiny elderly shih tzu named Mr. Pickles, pushed the door open with his body like it was the SWAT team. He stares. We freeze. He starts barking like he's witnessing a home invasion. My boyfriend panic, panics, jumps off the bed and tries to scoop up the dog. The dog panics and pees. I panic and scream. The mattress panics and soaks it all in. And suddenly his mom is knocking on the door asking if everything was okay. My boyfriend from across the room, holding, dripping, Mr. Pickles goes, yeah, he slipped. Slipped where? In what? What is this story? We spend the next 20 minutes trying to clean pee off the sheets while the dog sits in the hallway shaking like he's seen the gates of hell. The next morning at breakfast, his mom says, Mr. Pickles didn't sleep at all last night. I think someone scared him. Ma'. Am. It was me. I scared your dog with my enthusiasm.
- [62:08]
Kale Lowry
Like, have you ever. Well, I know you have. I was gonna say, have you ever had sex at one of your partner's parents homes? But like, yes, obviously. Joe's. Oh, I know another one. You did?
- [62:25]
Lindsay Chrisley
Probably Javi's parents house. Definitely Chris's mom's house.
- [62:29]
Kale Lowry
I knew that one.
- [62:31]
Lindsay Chrisley
Yeah.
- [62:31]
Kale Lowry
Yeah. Before we go, I need to ask you, do you like, working smarter, not harder or harder and not smarter.
- [62:38]
Lindsay Chrisley
I would like to say that I would rather work smarter than harder, but oftentimes I find myself doing the hard work because everyone tells me to work smarter and not harder. But then I have to learn the hard way. So it depends.
- [62:50]
Kale Lowry
Well, this is why I'm asking you this. Remember, like, way back when, when we first got, like, the robot vacs? Like, they were like the it thing, like, we had to have them.
- [63:03]
Lindsay Chrisley
I don't have one, but yes.
- [63:05]
Kale Lowry
Well, I mean, I lost mine in my divorce, too, so I don't have one either. But I'm thinking, like, I. I have like a fetish or something with vacuums. Like, yeah, I'm aware it genuinely is like something mentally wrong with me, but I've been researching this one that's like a vacuum animal at the same time.
- [63:25]
Lindsay Chrisley
Yes. And I have seen that people love it. So if you end up getting it, please let me know.
- [63:30]
Kale Lowry
Well, I was thinking that we would get them for Christmas. Like, I'm going to buy them for us for Christmas because I like to buy vacuums.
- [63:39]
Lindsay Chrisley
I mean, obviously I'm not going to turn down a matte box, a map, a mop vacuum. I'm never going to say no to that. But if it's expensive, don't buy me one.
- [63:48]
Kale Lowry
Okay. Well, too bad. I'm buying them as soon as we get off this recording. Thank you guys for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple podcast app, follow and rate on Spotify, or listen wherever you get your pods. For our latest merch, visit CoffeeCombost podcast.com to shop full. Video episodes are available on Kale's patreon@patreon.com Kale Lowry. Don't forget to follow us on Instagram and join our Facebook group. Connect with us and our community. We hope that you guys have a fantastic week and we'll talk to you soon.
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Lindsay Chrisley
See ya. Sing along.
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Kale Lowry
What do you think makes the perfect snack?
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Kale Lowry
Could you be more specific?
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Lindsay Chrisley
At AM pm.
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Kale Lowry
I'm seeing a pattern here.
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AM PM Advertiser
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Kale Lowry
Crave, which is anything from AM pm.
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Lindsay Chrisley
But.
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DSW Advertiser
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