It's Giving Low Reading Comprehension

Summary

Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley

Episode: It's Giving Low Reading Comprehension
Date: November 17, 2025
Podcast: Coffee Convos (PodcastOne)

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Episode Overview

In this fun, unfiltered episode, Kail and Lindsie navigate the chaos of everyday mom life, co-parenting headaches, playdate drama, and the challenge of finding time (and energy) for everything. With their signature candor and banter, they dive into returning purchases, messy mornings, dinner dilemmas, and hilarious “Am I the Asshole?” scenarios from listeners—plus a jaw-dropping “Foul Play” confession that gets everyone laughing (and groaning). The main threads running through this episode are the highs and lows of co-parenting, kids’ activities, managing household chaos, and why communication (and reading comprehension!) is key.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Everyday Life Updates, Slogans & “De-Influencing”

Timestamps: 02:14–06:31

• State Slogans as Business Names: Kail jokes about everything in Delaware being the “First State” something (CrossFit, Jujitsu, etc.), while Georgia businesses go with “Peach State” (03:15–03:50).
• Fruit Preferences: Kail isn’t a huge fruit fan but loves peaches; Lindsie laments rarely eating the state’s namesake (03:53).
• De-Influencing: Kail issues a PSA—her popular Mackenzie Childs mug looks cute but is all metal, gets dangerously hot, and feels cheap. “These ones suck. Get a dupe.” (05:02–05:50)
• Returns Culture: Both hosts avoid returning makeup after trying it, feeling awkward about it. Kail: “I don’t give a fudge what y’all do. It doesn’t make a difference in my life.” (06:09)

2. Beauty Routines and Skin Struggles

Timestamps: 06:31–08:10

• Foundation Trials: Lindsie can’t find a face foundation that doesn’t feel “plopped on.” Kail recommends NARS and is eyeing Fenty and Giorgio Armani’s Luminous Silk (06:45–07:07).
• Hormonal Breakouts: Both confess to breakouts and send daily check-in texts. “Are you okay? — No. Are you okay? — Also no.” (07:55)

3. The Realities of Co-Parent Communication

Timestamps: 08:10–14:19

• Dads & Sons' Calls: Lindsie is overwhelmed when ex-husband and her son argue together on speakerphone: “I need to pull over on the side of the road because my brain now can’t function to drive and also listen to this.” (08:45)
• Parenting Plans & Selective Reading: The hosts keep their parenting plans handy (Kail: “pocket parenting plan”) to counter “convenient” interpretations by their co-parents (10:00–10:51).
• Low Reading Comprehension:
  • Kail: “Are we reading the same document? ... Are we reading the same paperwork?” (10:31)
  • Lindsie: “You need to go back to school to learn how to... comprehend.” (11:01)
• Georgia’s “Tiebreakers”: Lindsie explains Georgia’s four standard decision-making areas for co-parents, with built-in tiebreakers—unlike Delaware, which has none. Kail: “Especially in high conflict, you are fucked.” (12:44)

4. Sports Commitments & Extracurricular Drama

Timestamps: 17:50–21:34

• Balancing Sports in Co-Parenting:
  • Kail manages 90% custody, while Lindsie prefers just one activity per season for balance.
  • They reflect on the double standard of judges not enforcing participation in court-ordered activities. Kail: “The judge is going to be like, whatever, and nothing is going to happen.” (18:40)
• Team Commitment Values: Lindsie doesn’t let Jackson choose other activities over team games. Kail shares how some co-parents simply skip their kids’ games, leaving one parent and the child disappointed. “The level of rioting that would ensue if that happened to me...” (21:09)

5. Dinner Dilemmas & Food Habits

Timestamps: 21:59–25:51

• Dinner Burnout: Lindsie is over summer grilling, considering a return to crockpot meals. Kail, too, is scrambling for dinner ideas and tired of takeout: “I went to KFC on the way here and I was not happy about it.” (22:28–22:50)
• Food Waste and Freezer Fails: Both battle food spoilage due to co-parenting custody schedules. Kail feeds leftovers to her pigs; Lindsie’s freezing attempts often result in frostbitten donuts (23:13–24:21).
• Little Bites Rebellion: Jackson and Lux have turned against off-brand muffin “dupes.” Quote: “Those muffins you bought are disgusting.” (25:02)

6. Morning Chaos & Increasing Kids’ Independence

Timestamps: 27:34–32:21

• Breakfast Spending: Both admit to spending more on breakfast takeout than dinner—and feel little guilt as long as their kids are well-fed. Kail recounts mornings at Wawa after running out of milk. (26:17–27:01)
• Morning Routines: Kail lets her (youngest) kids dress themselves; Lindsie reflects on shifting from laying out outfits to granting autonomy:
  • Kail: “If they have the autonomy to be able to pick out their own outfits, it gives them a sense of confidence and a sense of control of...something in their day.” (31:45)
  • Lindsie: “I know he’s clean, he’s fed. And if you want to look like that at school, like, I don’t give a—.”

7. Listener “Am I the Asshole?” Segment

Timestamps: 33:43–66:51

The segment features lively discussion and advice about complex family and social scenarios:

• Babysitting Drama: Not an asshole for lying to a habitual boundary-breaking sister—just be honest and say you want time alone (34:15–34:55).
• Skipping Team Sports: Both hosts say you’re the asshole for skipping out on travel sports commitments because you’re tired. Lindsie: “If you do not want to commit to a travel baseball team and you are exhausted by that Sunday, go sign up for a regular rec team.” (39:36–39:49)
• PTA Credit Showdown: Publicly correcting someone for taking credit—maybe deserved, but a private convo is better. “Yeah, it’s like the Real Housewives, but of the PTA.” (47:39–48:11)
• Shared Class Gifts: Not an asshole for contributing less to a group teacher gift if you already bought a personal gift. Kail: “Nobody has ever in their life asked me for $25 towards a gift. … You cannot expect someone to have 25 extra dollars laying around.” (54:26–55:02)
• Mother-in-law Vacation: Both sides are at fault when money and plans aren’t discussed up front—communication and comprehension are vital (59:53–61:37).
• Ex Dating Kid’s Babysitter: Both say it’s petty to ban the ex’s new partner if she’s already around the kids. Kail: “At this big age… what’s the boundary? She’s already around your kids.” (62:39–64:07)
• Public Proposals: Immediate agreement that not respecting someone’s boundaries on proposals is a red flag. “Why does she have to post a proposal? Regardless? Also, if someone proposed to me in front of a bunch of people, I’m gonna say no…” (64:32–64:44)

8. Embarrassing & Relatable Stories

Timestamps: 50:14–53:56

• Middle School Fails: Kail shares a mortifying memory of falling in front of a crush; Lindsie says she’d try to “rebound so hard, so fast” (50:14–51:06).
• Everyday Embarrassment: Lindsie returns awkward movie greetings, Kail worries about pizza sauce on her face during school pickup (53:04–53:56).

9. “Foul Play”: Hilariously Awkward Intimacy Story

Timestamps: 70:49–74:49

• Listener shares a story about an awkward bedroom moment involving a fart mistaken for a queef. The hosts break down the difference (and embarrassment) between the two, with lots of laughs and honest talk.
  • Kail: “Queefs are my worst nightmare... I don’t think men know the difference between a queef and a fart…” (72:36–73:03)
  • Lindsie: “Are you the type of queefer that it’s like a consistent queefing, like, once it starts?” (73:03)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Reading Comprehension:
  • Kail: “Are we reading the same document?... Are we reading the same paperwork?” (10:31)
  • Lindsie: “You need to go back to school to learn how to... comprehend.” (11:01)
• On Handling Co-parenting Communication:
  • “He follows the order when it’s convenient for him, and then he doesn’t follow the order most of the time.” —Kail (10:00)
• On Parenting Autonomy:
  • “I’m telling them yes and no to things all day long. Their teachers are telling them… If they have, like, the autonomy to be able to pick out their own outfits, it gives them a sense of confidence.” —Kail (31:45)
• On Proposal Faux Pas:
  • “If someone proposed to me in front of a bunch of people, I’m gonna say no for the simple fact that you don’t know me well enough…” —Kail (64:44)
  • Lindsie: “Just take your ring back and get on. Because… we’re getting divorced anyway.” (65:10)
• On Embarrassing Moments:
  • Kail: “I literally just stared at the ceiling.” (51:01)
  • Lindsie: “Just pop up, like, you just pop up.” (51:06)

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Overall Tone & Style

Coffee Convos is candid, warm, and loaded with personal anecdotes, playful roasting, and empathetic advice. The hosts blend laughter with seriousness, validating real struggles while poking fun at everyday absurdities. Their rapport makes even parenting headaches sound relatable—and hilarious.

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Useful Timestamps

• Opening, local business names & mugs: 02:18–05:50
• Returning purchases & makeup talk: 05:50–07:07
• Parenting plan headaches: 10:00–14:19
• Team sports/commitment: 17:50–21:34
• Dinner and breakfast routines: 21:59–27:59
• Kids picking outfits: 30:40–32:21
• Embarrassing moments: 50:14–53:56
• Listener “Am I the Asshole?” scenarios: 33:43–66:51
• Foul Play confession: 70:49–74:49

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For fans and new listeners alike, this episode is a real, messy, and highly entertaining glimpse into co-parenting and mom life—with plenty of useful nuggets and LOL moments to brighten your day.

Transcript

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[Kale Lowry]

Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsay Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels. Kale.

[Kale Lowry]

That does not interest me whatsoever.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore.

[Kale Lowry]

There's a fakery bakery around here.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Here's Kale and Lindsay.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay, so. Hey. Morning. Okay, I was just giving. I was selling my soul to Lindsay just now because we're getting some sponsorships for killer sports and I offered Lindsay a steal to advertise the Southern Tea podcast. But what's so funny to me about Delaware is that okay, you know how like, people in Texas are like, everything's bigger in Texas and it's like, that's like a slogan or whatever. So Delaware was the first state, but it's like every single type of business there is always a company that is First State, whatever the business. First state CrossFit, first state Orthopedics, First State Jujitsu. First State. Because it's like the First State. So that is like, it feels like it's everybody's tagline for their business, but every sort of, like, type of business there is is, like, there's a First State. Does that make sense?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So is it First State killer sports?

[Kale Lowry]

Like First State Sports complex. You know what I mean? Like every First State. But is there that in Georgia?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, Peach State.

[Kale Lowry]

It's like, you can't. There's nothing that people can create a business off does that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm pretty sure there's like Peach State moving, like a moving company.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, Peach State. That's funny. I could see, like, if it was Florida. Sunshine State Orthopedics, Sunshine State Book Club, Sunshine State Podcast. Like, that's fine. But like Georgia, I guess, like Peach State.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I think it's just Peach State.

[Kale Lowry]

Funny.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't even eat peaches, like, that much. It's like, really a tragedy.

[Kale Lowry]

I. You know what? I'm going to be honest. I'm not a fruit girly, but if I do eat fruit, I do love a good peach.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I love a good. But it's got to be, you know, like from one of those, like, rinky dinky stands that the tables look like they're gonna break, you know, on the side of the road.

[Kale Lowry]

Farm fresh, like. Yeah. Okay, but really quickly, this is the second or third episode that I have used this specific mug on here. And last episode or the episode before that, we talked about, like, basically de influencing. I have a small update for you. I did post the link to the cheetah sweater. I'm not recommending buying it, but if someone wanted to posted the link. I ordered the lululemon leggings last night. I got one legging and one, like, little keychain situation. And I want to d influence on this mug here. Okay? This is all metal. There's nothing glass about it. It's all metal. It's a popular mackenzie Childs or something.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I hate it.

[Kale Lowry]

This. This mug.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I love their stuff. Like, aesthetically, I love their stuff.

[Kale Lowry]

Esthetically. You just said it esthetically, I love their stuff. This handle right here gets as hot as the mug itself. So because the entire thing is aluminum or metal or whatever, this mug, you have to be so careful, and it's so lightweight and cheap that it makes me upset because I'm like, I Love a good, hefty mug.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This of the coffee Convos mug that we did for the merch, I feel like that's a good, like, weighted mug.

[Kale Lowry]

No, I love our merch mugs. Like, that is, like, the durable, heavy mug that I like this one when there's no coffee in it. But, like, I'm burnt. First of all, this is so hard to hold. And second, but, like, I didn't know until I had already unboxed it, used them, and now I have them. I wasn't going to return them after I used them, but I just wanted to de influence. These ones suck. Get a dupe.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, so the people that are listening to this, are you the type of person that goes and gets makeup and returns it, like, during the return policy after you already tried it? Because I'm definitely not. I feel like they're going to tell me that I used it and I'm trying to, like, scam.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm not. I've never returned makeup. I think maybe if I, like, opened the box and then realized it was the wrong color, but I didn't use it, I might exchange it. But I'm not going to, like, I don't know, like, and this is no shade to anyone who does it. I don't give a fudge what y' all do. It don't. It doesn't make a difference in my life. I'm just saying what I do. I'm not going to return makeup. I would give it away or sell it, if anything.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What is the foundation? That is, like, the top tier foundation. I know that it's, like, relative to whoever's using it for, like, skin type and whatever, but I cannot find a foundation that does not feel like it sits on top of my face.

[Kale Lowry]

So I've been using NARS for several years, and I. I do really like it, but I've heard really good things about Giorgio Armani luminous silk. Kristen is not the first person to tell me that. I also just got a fenty one that I haven't tried yet, and I'm waiting to get through my NARS one, so I'll let you know about the fenty one.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just feel like, and I don't know, maybe it's like, I don't need that much of full coverage, so maybe that's why it's sitting on top. I have no idea what I'm doing. Like, I've tried everything from any makeup artist that's ever done my makeup. It doesn't look like that when they do it, but when I Do it. It just looks like it's, like, plopped on there.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I sometimes get, like, the, like around here. It'll start, like. I guess by the end of the day, it will.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, it's creasing.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. Like, it kind of sounds gross, but, like, I start to see it, like, settle around here, specifically yesterday, because I have really deep, like, crannies, nooks and crannies and crannies.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I can't wear makeup this week because I don't know if it's just, like, the stuff that I've been going through in life that I'm having, like, these hormonal breakouts. But do you ever get, like, the chin breakout, like, on both sides?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I'm having neck and chin breakouts right now. You can't see because I covered it with makeup. But Lindsay and I are both going through it. We're texting each other every day saying, hey, are you okay? No, I'm not okay. Are you okay also? No. And then we go about our days. But it's been rough.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's been so rough. Let me tell you what I was dealing with this morning. And I don't know if other people experience this. With dads with boy children, the level of arguing is so, like, high level that I feel like when they get on the phone with me, I cannot function. Like, I. I need to black out. I need to pull over on the side of the road. The. The arguing and the stuff that we're arguing about is, like, so irrelevant in life. It's like, why are we even wasting our breath having this conversation?

[Kale Lowry]

Run this back for me. You're saying that talking to dads with sons.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, like, well, specifically my ex husband and my son.

[Kale Lowry]

I was wondering where you were going with this, because I was like, it's.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, every morning or every evening, there's something. And I get the phone call, and they're both on speakerphone and they're arguing with each other while I'm just listening. And they'll be like, are you there? I'm like, yes, I'm needing to pull over on the side of the road because my brain now can't function to drive and also listen to this.

[Kale Lowry]

No, period. I agree with you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But is it dads with sons?

[Kale Lowry]

Like, it's just dads in general. Okay. Because if I FaceTime Elijah right now and I am trying to talk to the kids, it's like, what are. Like, what are we doing? What are you even saying to me?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, so when you FaceTime, he'll also be Talking sometimes, yeah, Will does that too. And I'm like, did you read the parenting plan where it says unmonitored phone calls?

[Kale Lowry]

They're so dumb. Like, I don't, I don't go off.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The parenting plan, but only goes off the parenting plan. Like, how many people have a baby dad that goes off the parenting plan when it's like, relevant to what they want to like their point?

[Kale Lowry]

Me, I have one that he follows the order when it's convenient for him, and then he doesn't follow the order most of the time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's really a pain in the ass. I keep my parenting plan on my Google Drive, so if somebody wants to come sideways at any point and I'm on my phone, I can just like tap on that little thing and Will calls it my pocket parenting plan.

[Kale Lowry]

No, because it's so convenient. I always have it on my phone because sometimes I have one dad that will, like, message me something off the.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wall, and I'm like, that doesn't even make sense.

[Kale Lowry]

I will literally screenshot parts of our parenting plan, drop it to that section. Nine times out of 10, he's still going to argue with me and be like, that's ambiguous. I didn't read it that way. And then other times I'm just like, are we reading the same document? Are we. Are we reading the same paperwork?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I can't tell you how many times that I'm like, you need to go back to school to learn how to read. Not just read, but what's it called?

[Kale Lowry]

Like, comprehend.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Comprehend, like reading comprehension. Because what that says and what you are taking out of that is the wrong answer. Like, I would hate to see your ass on a standardized test.

[Kale Lowry]

Listen, if I say something out of pocket to my kids about things that should be common sense. My son, luck, Specifically luck. Sometimes Lincoln, sometimes creed, they will look at me and say, do you need to go back to elementary school? I mean, valid to me, my children say, do you need to go back to elementary school? So if I, would I be wrong for saying that to my co parents?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, because I've done it and I. I need to know anybody who's listening to this that is co parenting and operating off of a parenting plan. We cannot be the only two people that carry around a pocket parenting plan. And we also can't be the only two people that crop certain segments of the parenting plan and send just that.

[Kale Lowry]

Speaking of parenting plans, I remember you and I had a conversation about the four areas in Georgia where they. You guys, like, pick who has final say. Like A tiebreaker?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

I was just scrolling on my FYP and I came across like a law. Like somebody in law was talking about the state of Georgia and I thought it was really interesting because I don't follow this person, but she like came up and she was saying in the state of Georgia, across the board, like, if you go through court and you go to a judge or whatever that looks like that is something that is standard in Georgia for there to be a tiebreaker in every category. Delaware has six or eight, if I remember correctly. It's. It's either six or eight. It's. I know it's not seven, but it's definitely six or eight. And there's no tiebreakers.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So what do you do in the.

[Kale Lowry]

Event, like, especially in high conflict, you are fucked. Right. Like next week I'm going to look at a private school for Lincoln. Javi doesn't even live in this state anymore and he still has a say in whether Lincoln can go to that school. And if we don't agree, then what?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So mine, the. The four things, we've talked about that before, but like mine's medical and if it's non emergent, then I have like the majority control. And then the tiebreaker, if it is medical emergency, then obviously you would just follow like emergency rules. But then I still would have the say in that medical emergency because he's required to contact me. The only thing that he is the tiebreaker on, but it's not the way that it was written, is not really enforceable. Tiebreaker because he can only enroll Jackson in one extracurricular activity per season.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And he's allowed to enroll him every season. Like I can't stop him from enrolling. So I guess that's like the tiebreaker rule, but it has a cap on it. So it's like he can't go and enroll him in three different things because now you're also impacting my parenting time. And I don't necessarily. To each their own. I know your kids do like multiple sports. Like, that's Yalls life. I want more time at home with my child. I'm sharing 5050 and I'm not running all over the state of Georgia to do three different sports at the same time.

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[Kale Lowry]

Be fair, those kids, those three kids that do three sports or two sports at a time, I have them 90% of the time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So that's, that's different.

[Kale Lowry]

If it was 50, if it was still 50, 50, I likely wouldn't do that. But. And then we take the summers off of sports completely where you might have, if Will decides to enroll him in a sport in the summertime, you're, you know, Jackson might be in a sport in the summertime on your parenting time. My kids are not doing sports for at minimum three months. So I think it ends up being.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

About the same, like in the summertime and, and it's still, I guess, considered extracurricular. Will will enroll him in, like, sports camps. And on my days, I am required to take him to those sports camps because that's, you know, by the season what would happen.

[Kale Lowry]

And because Georgia is a southern state, I do feel like they have, correct me if I'm wrong. Anyone listening, Lindsay, your experience, but anyone else specifically in the, in the southern states, do they take the parenting plan and contempt seriously? Because here you could have an order that says, like mine, for example, with we'll use Lux and Creed, it says in our parenting plan that both parents are required to take the kids to sports. But then if you turn around and you're like, okay, well, he didn't take them to sports for two full weeks. The judge is going to be like, whatever, and nothing is going to happen.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I mean, I do know just again, we've never, like, followed any contempts or, like, gone to court or anything like that. But from other people that I have been around that have been in situations like that, I know somebody that filed seven contempts against someone and they ordered them a court date. A lot of people have different mentalities, right? Like I know people that will enroll their kids in sports and it's like, okay, they already have family plans for stuff and so they might be missing like a couple of things throughout the season. When we enroll Jackson, like in basketball season, for example, we're not planning stuff during basketball season for a reason because we don't want him to miss his commitment to his team. Like, he needs to be committed to the activity that he's doing and committed to the teamwork.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. What? No doubt. No doubt.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I do feel like it's so bad to put kids in a sport that is team related. And then you give them a selection of do you want to do? Do you want to go to your game or do you want to do this? Like, what are you teaching them?

[Kale Lowry]

I have a friend who co parents and she like, they live in two different states and she drove to Maryland for the dad lives in Maryland, she lives here in Delaware. She drove to Maryland to go to their soccer game and FaceTime them. And they were on the video games. They were not at their soccer game because dad just didn't bring them.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh.

[Kale Lowry]

To another state to go see her kids soccer game. And then they were just the level.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Of rioting that would ensue if that happened to me. I do kind of feel like I'm turning into to you this season of life because Jackson now has basketball practice on Saturdays at 4 and on Sundays or Saturdays at 4 and Mondays at 6. And now that I'm just like a single girly, I don't really have to do on Mondays at 6, so I'm gonna go to the practices even though I don't have him.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, you could read if it's just practice and he doesn't care if you watch him or not and you're there. You could bring your Kindle because that's what I was doing.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I wouldn't be able to read my Kindle because will be there and it'll be a bunch of conversation about stupid shit.

[Kale Lowry]

I mean, I don't want to talk to other parents at sports. I was at basketball on Monday night and I had said one sentence to this lady and she talked my ear off for 45 minutes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, so we actually. I need to talk to you about this before we get into am I the asshole? But I'm really having a struggle and I always do, like roughly around this time of year with dinner plans. Like, I'm so tired of all of like the grill food and stuff that we did all summer long, that, like, now that's become not an option for me. So do I just, like, whip out my crock pot and start doing that every morning? Because I feel like by the time it gets six o', clock, I'm scrambling.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, so Kristen and I just had this conversation, and she reminded me, every single year, I forget about the crock pot and then I'm scrambling like you. And I'm so tired of takeout at this point in my life. Like, I went to KFC on the way here, and I was not happy about it, but there's no other. There's just no options. And I'm so sick of everything that I need to do crock pot. I just forget.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But the best thing, if you get in a routine with a crock pot, I feel like that is absolutely the best move. Wake up in the morning, give yourself enough time. Like, pour your in the crock pot and let it cook all day. And then you don't have to worry about it. I just need to get more routined.

[Kale Lowry]

Same. And I need to take an entire day, like a Saturday or a Sunday to, like, do the prep.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, map out the meals. Yeah, see, I have a problem with that too. I am also the type of person that I'll go to the grocery store every single day to get stuff for a specific meal for that night because I do not like food going to waste.

[Kale Lowry]

No, I hate it. But I. I don't waste food anymore. I feed it to my pigs. So if something is stale. Nothing with mold, though. Like, I won't give them anything with mold. But, like, before they get to that point or like, the bread is, like, just expired and it's just the butts. I'm gonna give it to the dogs. Any leftovers we don't eat goes to the. Did I say dogs? I meant pigs. Everything goes to the pigs.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I also have a big problem. We separate the week out, like, two days in two days. So when I have Jackson, he likes to eat like a little sweet something for breakfast. So it'll be like donuts or. And I'll serve it with, like, a fruit and a yogurt or something. But because I only have him two days, it's like all the other stuff goes bad. So now I've gotten into the habit of freezing it so I'm not wasting it. And then I forget that it's in the freezer. So then by the time I get it out, it's frostbite.

[Kale Lowry]

That's annoying. That's actually really frustrating.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm just like, what? What is going on? There's got to be a better solution. And he's completely. I never thought that I would be saying this, but he's completely off little bites.

[Kale Lowry]

How. How did you do that? I don't.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know. Like, he just. I don't know if he ate them so much that he just got so worn down with them. He was like, I don't want them anymore. But I bought a big box of little bites from Sam's Club and they expired.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm so jealous of you right now. I bought. Somebody bought Little Debbies. Instead of the little Bites, they're like the knockoff, like the dupes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Kale Lowry]

And last night Lux came up to me and he said, and those muffins you bought are disgusting.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, so Jackson and Lux are the same on that. Jackson calls them knockoff little bites. And will always is like, a store brand purchaser. So, like, if he goes to Kroger and they have a version of like, a name brand, something, he is buying it. Jackson will call me from Wills, and he's like, mom, you have to talk to dad about buying knockoff little bites because they are just not good, and I do not want to eat them.

[Kale Lowry]

But maybe that is what made him give up little Bites because he's like, you know what? My dad keeps buying these ones, and then he forgets about it when he goes to your. I don't know. You know what? Maybe I just stopped buying them. Like, maybe that is the solution.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That is definitely the solution. But now we have incurred a bigger bill because Chick Fil A is, like, on the way to school, and he wants Chick Fil A breakfast every morning. And I'm like, I really just don't give a. Like, as long as you're eating, I'll stop and get it. But he's gotten to the point where he can eat 10 chicken minis, and.

[Kale Lowry]

You'Re just like, I guess he's a grown boy.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, but it's $12 every morning.

[Kale Lowry]

I had to. My kids got into the habit of, like, there was a time where I was going to Starbucks and the kids were getting food. And then, like, I you not was spending, like, $40 every morning at Starbucks. We haven't done that all year. Then it was, we're going to Wawa. We're going to Wawa every single morning. And because there's about 30 minutes between drop off of Lincoln and before Lux and Creed have to go to school. And so The Wawa will be right there. Well, I put a stop to that. However, this morning we ran out of milk, so the kids couldn't eat cereal. So I was like, oh, now we gotta go to Wawa. But, like, the morning spending. I was spending more in breakfast every morning than I was on, like, at, like, dinner time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, for sure. I. I really don't care, like, as long as I know he's getting, like, a good balanced something. Because a lot of times he'll get, like, the parfait. And then, like, if he gets a parfait, then he gets four chicken minis. So I'm like, okay, that's somewhat, like, well balanced. Like, I feel good. I know he's full whenever he goes to school, but, like, what are people feeding their kids for breakfast? Because I'm not even. You Will is a morning person. Always has been a morning person. He'll wake up and have, like, eggs, cooking, bacon. I'm like, I don't have time for that shit in the morning.

[Kale Lowry]

No, because you're doing fudgeing laundry in the morning.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes, I am. Have you started doing laundry in the morning?

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, there's never going to be a time where I do laundry in the morning.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So, like, when you wake up, what does it look like?

[Kale Lowry]

Hell.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Because you're, like, helping your kids get dressed and, like, brush teeth and, like.

[Kale Lowry]

Not helping them with shit.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So you have raised children that can do all of that stuff on their own?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah. Come find me in my bathroom getting ready, because. Why are you yelling? Because I'm not doing that. I love my kids, but, like, I'm not. Creed has been getting ready for kindergarten by himself. And last year, for his last year in preschool, he got ready almost every single morning by himself.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So there were your own clothes and stuff?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I let them wear whatever they want.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I know. I let Jackson wear.

[Kale Lowry]

Do you want to know what Creed came into the bathroom with on today? Creed walked into my bathroom to say good morning in athletic shorts. A messy jersey. Like, Lionel messy jersey with a white button down over top of the jersey. Okay. And I said, oh, wow, bud, you look really nice. You look good. And he goes, you know what? I don't like this outfit. And he goes right upstairs and changes.

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[Kale Lowry]

A. I think it's more for my kids specifically. Like, I'm telling them yes and no to things all day long. Their teachers are telling them they can and cannot do things all day long. If they have, like, the autonomy to be able to pick out their own outfits. It gives them a sense of, like, confidence and a sense of control of, you know, something in their. During their day. It works for some families. It doesn't work for some families. Like, whatever works for your little ones. Like, so be it, as long as everybody's happy and whatever. But, like, I wonder if Creed's teachers have questions about his outfits.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, I mean, definitely. I have a feeling Jackson also was wearing one color Croc on one foot and one color croc on the other foot.

[Kale Lowry]

Okay. But there is a trend right now. I just got Lincoln new basketball shoes and John Morant's, like, line of shoes. Basketball shoes. One shoe is one color and the other shoe is another color. Like, you buy them like that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, I get it, but I just think back whenever we were growing up. I mean, number one, we weren't wearing Crocs. We were wearing, like, jelly shoes and shit. But would that have ever been a thing?

[Kale Lowry]

I feel like it would have been. I've seen kids do it with football cleats. Like, when Lincoln played football, I like, some of the kids on his team even would, like, trade a cleat with their friend if they wore the same size and they would wear their two different cleats. I want to show you the shoes really quick because then I had to turn around and get John Morantz for Lux. But these are the. I say that they're like peanut butter and jelly, but I don't know what the actual shoe is.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm glad you're showing me these because. Oh, I love those.

[Kale Lowry]

But they're like. They're actually really cool looking.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Those would be perfect for Jackson because those are also clumps and colors. Oh, he would get one. So you get one orange and one purple.

[Kale Lowry]

I got. Yeah, yeah, he just got them. So you just.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You just influenced me for another purchase. But I'm not doing no buy November. So that's just you. Okay, so we have a segment of Am I the Asshole? So we're going to roll through these. This person says, my sister drops her kids off at my house constantly just for an hour, and it turns into four. Last weekend, I told her that I had planned so she couldn't, but I didn't. And I just wanted A Saturday alone. Am I the asshole for lying so she stops taking advantage of me and absolutely you're not the asshole.

[Kale Lowry]

Absolutely not the. But if she doesn't feel bad for saying that she's going to be gone for an hour and ends up being gone for four or five or whatever, if she doesn't have a problem with that, then maybe you should just say something like, hey, like I know that you said you're going to be gone for an hour, but you're usually gone for far more. I would like a heads up that you're going to be gone for that long so I can prepare or it needs to just be the hour.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just feel like as adults we have the choice to be able or the right to be able to make a choice. So I just don't agree with like the lying part of it. Like I have plans. No, you're just like literally not doing it because she takes advantage of you.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, maybe say, you know what? I was looking for forward to a quiet day today, so I'm not gonna be able to do it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean that's what I would say. One time Jackson had a friend over and it was like an after school situation and I was like, it's fine, like I'll feed them pizza and you can pick up like around 7. Please tell me why this child's parents did not come and pick this child up until 11 o' clock at night. And at that point I'm already like, I'm past the point of ready to go to bed. So just let them sleep over at this point because I'm not trying to help you get to my gate. I'm not trying to like stay up looking at my phone and my child also needs to go to bed.

[Kale Lowry]

Wait, from 7? You said pick up around 7 and they didn't get there until 11pm I thought you were going to say like 9, which would even not would still not be okay. But Lincoln went to somebody's birthday sleepover the other weekend and I was so weird. Like I know the mom, I've known her for years and so it was fine. And I knew the other kids that would be there and I was asking, okay, like what time for pickup? And she was like, well, we're going to go to the trampoline park from this time to this time. And I said, okay, so should we pick up from the trampoline park? And she was like, no, no, no, like that you can pick up from my house at, you know, after, at 5 or whatever. But I was like, it sounded nice, but I was like, you know what? On second thought, like, I'll just make sure he's picked up at the trampoline park. Because I didn't want to have to worry about.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I know.

[Kale Lowry]

I don't. Like, I don't. My mom was always making me overstay my welcome, and I don't ever want my kids to be overstaying their welcome.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm just really weird about that. Like, I'm not a person that's like, okay, it has to be like, exactly at this specific time that, like, you have to show up. But don't. Don't say in a time frame that you're going to show up. And like, even if it's like 15, 20 minutes, like, whatever. Like, give you grace, might have gotten traffic, whatever. But when you're talking from 7pm pickup time and you don't show up until 11, like, why didn't we just call it a sleepover at this point?

[Kale Lowry]

No, truly. At the point that you weren't going to be there by 7:30, if you say pick up at 7 and you were running that far behind. Hey, I actually can't make it. Can you keep him overnight?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And, like, what are people doing that they are out at 11?

[Kale Lowry]

Was it a weekend or a weekday?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It was a Friday night.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, thank God. I mean, I'm not saying that that's okay, but at least it wasn't a school night.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, so do we do play dates and have friends over, like, during week time? Because I don't.

[Kale Lowry]

I used to, but I don't anymore. I will say that I did take them to the trampoline park on Monday night this week because we were celebrating Lux's friend's birthday that we didn't get a chance to celebrate a couple weeks ago. So she had texted me about doing it on Sunday, and then it didn't open until 2:00'. Clock. And she was like, I don't want to take them. Like, that's late for a Sunday. Like, I want to be home by 2 o'.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Clock.

[Kale Lowry]

So she was like, what about, you know, a weekday or whatever? And I said, well, I'm gonna do Monday after school. But that I also liked because it was like, okay, we're going to do this activity. We have a set time and I know what time I'm gonna be done. And she. I mean, I don't know what she was doing that night. Like, I'm sure she appreciated having a set time that we knew we would be done.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So it's interesting that you say that and I know that we've talked about it before, like doing stuff that has set amount of time. So if you're doing like a jump pass, it's like a two hour jump pass, you know, when the pass is expired, we're going home. I love that Jackson's bringing a couple of friends with him to the jump park for his birthday and set time.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I just, I. Wait, did I tell you? Okay, so Lincoln has been invited to two birthday sleepovers in the past, like two months. And same group of kids at both. It's like the same group. And I go, okay, Lincoln, your birthday's coming up. Like, do you want to do a sleepover? And he goes, no. And I go, what do you like, what do you mean? He's like, maybe a few hours, but I don't want to have. I don't want them to sleep over.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's so funny. Jackson is really, really weird about, like, he likes his friends being at the house. But like, when it gets time to go to bed, he wants to be in his bed and he doesn't want anybody to be around him.

[Kale Lowry]

And I don't blame him. I feel the same way.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm like, as an adult, like, I very much relate. Okay, next person says, my ex and I take turns taking our son to travel baseball tournaments. When it's my weekend, I let him skip the Sunday game if we're both exhausted. My ex found out and lost it, saying, I'm teaching him to be lazy. Am I the for choosing rest over sports? You are the because you're choosing rest with a commitment that you signed up for.

[Kale Lowry]

If you do not want to commit to a travel baseball team and you are exhausted by that Sunday, go sign up for a regular rec team. Like, why are you doing travels? You know that that is what you're committing to.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So it's interesting that this came up because Jackson wanted to play travel basketball and he was like, on second thought, I don't think I'm mature enough to do that this year. Maybe I'll like do it next year. Because I just don't think I could be that level of committed. And I just like the self awareness. Right. Like, we are teaching our kids to be self aware. Most of the time though, with travel baseball teams, basketball teams, like whatever the sport is. Most of the time there's a parent meeting that discusses the level of commitment prior to committing to that commitment.

[Kale Lowry]

No, I agree. But like, what are you. Why are you playing travels? Like, to me, in my experience of parenthood and Travel, sports, the mom is probably exhausted and putting that, putting her feelings on the child to not do whatever that. But I mean, without knowing the details of the games and things like that, it's just like, I don't know, a team sport and just not showing up simply because you're tired. That's not a good enough.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, there's been times that. Because every season, except this basketball season, I've always had Jackson on practice days. They've always fallen, like on Wednesday and Thursday. So those are my parenting days. There have been times that I've either been like, sick or had something else that I needed to, like, get done. And we'll just come pick him up and take him to basketball. Like, there's also that option too. So, like, if you're exhausted and you're in this commitment, your child is committed to this, you and your co parent have committed, then talk to your co parent about maybe taking the child to the game.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, that's a good idea. Like, if you are that tired, ask the co parent.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, I think it's valid.

[Kale Lowry]

I think it's valid because also you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Have to consider, like you with travel, sports, there is a financial commitment. And so that's also the commitment of your co parent if you guys are splitting, you know, the fees. So why are we just missing games?

[Kale Lowry]

Well, to me, again, kids are resilient. I'm not saying the kids never tired because even Lincoln is my most athletic, most, most committed to sports kid. There are days that he's tired. But I will say that he him, Lux, and that they have never gone to two full days of tournaments and told me, hey, can I just skip this day? Like, to me hearing that without details, I'm thinking that it's mostly the mom that doesn't maybe want to get up early, doesn't want to be there all day. I have, I know a mom friend who, if she's tired, just on a regular rec team, whatever, if she's tired, she just won't take them on a random day during the week.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

See, but I, I think we need to think a little bit deeper about this with kids with sports and being committed to a team, isn't that the same as an adult being committed to their job? So if you are instilling in your children that you can just skip out, what does that say about what their work ethic is going to look like in the future?

[Kale Lowry]

I what's interesting about that is that I don't think that you can always teach work ethic if it's something that you are like teaching from childhood, like really young, all the way up where you're like, okay, this is what we're going to do. Whether it's a sport, whether it's drama club, whether it's, you know, whatever. I don't think that you can teach it. So I think that if you start those habit, let me take that back, you can teach it. But I think that some kids like naturally also have it. But like I think of Elliot, right? And I'm like, okay, he asked me to sign up for this $200 online education for his ASL. Elliot is fluent in ASL and he's always looking for online teachers to like increase, you know, what he's doing or keep whatever. I texted him last night, hey, don't Forget you have ASL class tonight. He goes, yeah, I know, I'm getting on right now. Like that is something that we've worked towards since he was a small child. So you look at like the moms and the dads who are like signing them up and not taking them. If they then like to your point, like have no work ethic as an adult. Like you're somewhat to blame. I know that there some kids have it just naturally and some don't. But you can't blame anyone but yourself because you were the same parent that allowed them to skip practice once a week, not show up to tournament days. Not really. Look at the bigger picture, which is like the commitment to your team, the, you know, self discipline, things like that. But then you look at the flip side of it and it's like, okay, well mental health matters and if they need a mental health day. But that's not what we're talking about. We're not talking about one day here and there during a soccer season. We're talking about like regularly missing tournaments, regularly missing practices. It's like, what the fuck?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I mean some people don't have children that are, you know, very self starting. Like, like Jackson is definitely a harder child. And I've said that before. Like he's been a, a difficult child to raise and very opinionated about stuff, very into college football. So this past Saturday he was like, I don't want to go to practice because there's a game that I want to watch and going to practice will impede my time of being able to watch that game. That's where as a parent you have to step up and say, no, you are committed and you are going to practice. So find your shoes.

[Kale Lowry]

Yep. I mean Lincoln, he wanted to watch the Liverpool Real Madrid game last night at 9pm and he, he literally, I'm sitting on the couch and he's like, I'm like, you're not going to watch the game? He's like, no, I have a test in basketball tomorrow so I can't stay up that late.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Bless him, he's a good kid.

[Kale Lowry]

He's a good. Watch the highlights or he'll watch a rerun of the game the next day. All about.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay. So the next person says, another mom keeps taking credit for my work on the PTA fundraiser. I finally corrected her in front of everyone at the meeting. She got embarrassed and left early. The other mom said I was mean. Am I the asshole for calling her out publicly? Like, why are we getting that serious into PTA.

[Kale Lowry]

Again with no Further details. I'm led to assume that maybe these are parents that are. That is their full time job, is committing to. To organizations like the pta. That is their bread and butter. That is where their pride comes in. That is their hard work, their dedication, all of their efforts. I'm going to assume that that woman probably worked really hard on the PTA and someone else was taking credit, but maybe it could have been a private conversation. But yeah, it's like the Real Housewives, but of the pta.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just, I know that we need like the, the moms that are decorating the hallways and like doing all of the stuff at the school. Like, not trying to take away from that because I think it is super important. But like, sometimes people, some people have more to like pour from their cup than others. And maybe it would have just been better suited for a private conversation and not for an audience.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, that was the more dickheadish move than it was to, like, say something because, I mean, I think you could say something privately, like, hey, like, can you stop one time? Do you remember what zanga was?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Sanga. No, what is that?

[Kale Lowry]

It's like, like, before MySpace, it was like the Block.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I've heard of that.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I had one in probably like 8th grade or 9th grade or whatever. And we were coding. Like, we were coding. You know what I mean? And yeah, we were. I was a code master. Like, I'd be up like, oh, the music, the fall down glitter from the, like, what do you mean? I could have for a firm at 14, it's hilarious. So I, I think I like, copied someone's like, music list. And I put it in like this little, like, scroll thing. And the girl messaged me privately and was like, why did you copy my music list? And it's like, one, I shouldn't have copied it, but like, two, also, like, thank you for reaching out privately and not publicly.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, did you respond to this person?

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I think I said no. I didn't.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Or I like, I think knowing you were lying.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm sorry, I copied your list of musical artists. Like, to me it was just like a list of artists. Like, are you serious?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Were you, like, trying to be this girl?

[Kale Lowry]

No, I just liked what she. I liked the music artist that she listed.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Was she popular? And you were just like, trying to be the bee's knees.

[Kale Lowry]

For sure.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

For sure. That's exactly what happened. I can see it.

[Kale Lowry]

Shout out to Whitehall because they really. The cattiness that went on in 7th, 8th and 9th grade was truly hell. For me, middle school, I went to the office and I came back and I went to go sit in my seat. And I had a crush on this kid named Anthony. He was on the football team at Whitehall. And he sat behind me. And I came in from the office and I, like, went to go sit. My mind you, I'm crying. I just got in trouble and my seat came out from under me and I ended up on the floor. And I just laid there and looked at the seat, just looked at the ceiling for like three minutes. And I was like, what am I supposed to do? Anthony's literally behind me. Like, this is the worst day of my life.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That. That defines truly, like, our personalities. In a situation like that, I would try to rebound, like, so hard, so fast.

[Kale Lowry]

And you probably rebound from that. Like, I literally just stared at the ceiling.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Just pop up. Like, you just pop up. Kristen said it's giving when you fall in in the ocean. Getting to the. Getting on the banana boat. Wait, what?

[Kale Lowry]

Tell the story.

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[Kale Lowry]

I'm just like, tumbling.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Do you get, like, publicly embarrassed about stuff or like. No. Like, you just like, laugh it off or you're like, full blown embarrassed and you don't want to talk to anybody?

[Kale Lowry]

Both. It depends, really. Like today when I walked into a meeting, it was full of rich white men. And I, like, walked in and I'm wearing this crew neck, and I saw the one, like, sort of judging me, like, the way that he looked, like, not checking me out, like, literal judgment. And I'm just thinking to myself, financially, we're on the same playing field, buddy. Like, I just need you to just calm down.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait. This is the stuff I get embarrassed about. Okay? So, you know, okay, I went to the movies not too long ago, and I'm walking by with my pop, popcorn, my drink. I go to make the turn to go into the theater, and there's like, a worker there, and he goes Have a nice time watching the movie. Well, I thought he was like, I hope you have a good day or something. Like, that's the way that, like, I was thinking in my mind. And I was like, yeah, you too. But, like, it wasn't an appropriate response, like. And I was so embarrassed.

[Kale Lowry]

Oh, I see. That wouldn't embarrass. I would have been like, oh, damn. Why did I say that? Sometimes I say I have embarrassment about what I said. Say, because I'll be like, that should have been an inside thought. You know what I mean?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But it's like I was. I was like predicting what he was going to say in my mind before he said it. And, like, I already had a response and the response didn't make any sense.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, I've been there, actually.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's so embarrassing.

[Kale Lowry]

The other day, I was so hungry and I was eating pizza, walking over to the kids school, like, to grab them, and I had sauce on my face. And a teacher came up to me and was like, oh, like, Lux is fine. But. And then, like, she proceeded to talk to me, but the way that she looked at me, I didn't know what was going on. And I turned to Emily and she goes, you have sauce all over your face.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, my God.

[Kale Lowry]

I was embarrassed. I'm still embarrassed. She's listening to this podcast. Just know that I know that that happened, and I am embarrassed.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That's so embarrassing. Okay, next one. My son's teacher asked each parent to donate $25 towards a glass gift. I sent 10 because I had already bought a personal gift. Another mom texted the group saying everyone should pull their weight. Am I the asshole for not matching everyone else? Okay, number one, I feel like if you have it to be able to donate to a class gift, but you're also buying a personal gift, then I don't think, like, I think the $25, like, goes out the window.

[Kale Lowry]

Listen, I've got. You guys know I have a shit ton of children. Nobody has ever in their life asked me for $25 towards a gift. Okay. I had last year, specifically. I remember one of the moms organizing a class gift, but it was like a whatever you can do situation. It was like, if someone can donate 20, great. If someone's got five, cool. Like, it was not like a set amount. I don't think in this economy, in today's society and everything else, like, the climate, you cannot expect someone to have 25 extra dollars laying around.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just think about people with multiple children, and if we're just going off of this number $25. And that's for every classroom you're giving $25.

[Kale Lowry]

That would be 175 for me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, that. That is a lot of money. I used to just do, like, my own personal gift to the teacher from Jackson. And then I started, like, sometimes giving to the class one because they were like, okay, we're going to do a gift card tree. So, you know, know we're gonna put all the money together. It could be a bigger gift card, like, blah, blah, blah. I will give to stuff like that. But if we're just like nilly Willy giving 25 to this class gift and I don't know, like, what it is, and I'm just gonna purchase my own thing and send Jackson to school with his own stuff.

[Kale Lowry]

I have several teacher friends and they collectively. I'm not speaking for every teacher, so do not go in this. In the comments of this, talking about, well, I'm a teacher and I like this. This. My teacher friends specifically have said they don't want the fucking gifts. They want the money. And the gift cards are underpaid, overworked. They have 1200 mugs from every student that they've had over the past 10 years. They have pencils, they have pens. They have all the things. So the gift cards and the cash go much further, in my opinion.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So there is like a local nail salon around us that like all the teachers from the three schools, elementary, middle, and high school, like, that's the. The school nail salon, like, where the teachers go. So sometimes I'll do like a gift card to that or I might do Amazon or I try to do gift cards for places that they can get like, a plethora of items from, you know, so Amazon, Target. I've done Walmart gift cards before, but then sometimes people don't shop at Walmart. I do love the. The sheets that come home at the beginning of the year for, like, teachers wish list. And it'll say, like, what their monogram is. Like, the things that they like, the things that they can't have. Like, I love that one. Mom told me one time. She was like, I just think that that's tacky. And I'm like, no, I think that that is called thinking ahead.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

And it's called Go Wish, Go Wish. I think that that's awesome because we used to do the Amazon wish list. I would have Jackson fill one out like and he'll do it throughout the year, like things that he wants. But we're not probably necessarily buying right now. And I love that specifically in a situation where you have a child in two homes. Because I don't want to be buying him the same stuff for like birthday or Christmas that will might be buying him. So it's nice to be able to have some type of like tracking system to know what we're purchasing.

[Kale Lowry]

I, I just prefer like a system like that same.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, so next person says my mother in law planned a family vacation but expects me to pay half. Even though she picked dates, location and house, I told her I'm not paying for a trip I didn't plan. My husband says I'm being disrespectful. Am I the asshole? I think that both people are slightly the in this situation because I think that if it was going to be an expectation for everybody to pay a portion of something, then there should have been a conversation about location, dates and budget.

[Kale Lowry]

I think that so many issues could be solved not just from communication itself, but the comprehension. You can't really have the communication piece without the comprehension piece. And all of it starts with a comprehension. All of it starts with the, with the communication part of it. If you just have a simple conversation, we could avoid a lot of the issues.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But like for example, when we used to travel on family vacations, we would go every September to a beach trip with Will's parents and they always selected the house. They paid for the house. It was like something that they did for all of their kids and their spouses one time a year. With not knowing everyone's financial situation, I don't think that it's right to go on a family trip. One person pick what the dates are. So you haven't checked with other people to make sure that those dates were picking the, the arrangements of like where we're staying. So could be completely out of budget for some of the people. And also if it's a location that you don't want to go to, but you're now paying half for that. Like I, I don't agree with that.

[Kale Lowry]

No, I don't agree with that either. Absolutely not.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think they're both next person chat is my ex started dating our kids old babysitter. Okay. I have heard like babysitter situations like many times and it's very odd to me but I also somewhat see like how it could happen. This person says when she came to drop something off, I told her she's not wel welcome on my property because it's weird and inappropriate. My ex says I'm being dramatic. Am I the for setting that boundary?

[Kale Lowry]

I don't necessarily run that back for me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So this person says my ex started dating our kids old babysitter. When she came to drop something off, I told her she's not welcome on my property because it's weird and inappropriate. My ex says I'm being dramatic. Am I the asshole for setting that boundary? I feel like I need more information about this because like is were you guys together and then the babysitter was the babysitter, like, while y' all were together, and now he's dating her after the fact that.

[Kale Lowry]

I need more details for the sole fact of, like, does she know your kids? I mean, obviously she knows your kids if she used to babysit them. So she's been around. I mean, it's. It's weird for her, and it's inappropriate to her, but if they're. If she's around the kids, what the difference does it make? To me, that's dramatic and a little petty. It's definitely something old Kale would have done out of pure bitterness. But, I mean, at this big age. What the. Do you mean that? It's. You're setting a boundary. There's. What's the boundary? She's already around your kids.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just feel like if it was a situation where, like, this person was still with, like, her ex, and then that was the babysitter during the time that they were together, and then they're no longer together, and now he's dating that person. I guess I could see why you would kind of feel weird about it, because, like, was there feelings that were going on while.

[Kale Lowry]

Regardless, it's like, again, 10 years ago, five years ago, I would have done some stupid shit like that. But, like, if you really think about it, it. Whether that man was dating her while y' all were married or not, they're together now, period, point blank. There's nothing you can do about it. She's already been around the kids. You can say that you don't want her there, but, like, at the end of the, like, the kids know that she's now dating their dad. The kids are around said woman. You stopping her from coming on your property doesn't end up helping the kids. The kids. The kids will end up being like, what the. So, like, you have to think of it from that perspective is like. Like, they're together now. Whether. No matter how it came together.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I also have had to learn just through life experiences that, like, the more you push back on something, the more they're going to dig their heels in. Nine times out of ten, what you.

[Kale Lowry]

Fear is what you create.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

1,000%. Oh, I like this next one. My boyfriend proposed at my favorite restaurant right after I told him that I hate public proposals. I said yes, but didn't post it. He's mad that I'm ruining the moment. Am I the asshole?

[Kale Lowry]

Why does she have to post a proposal? Regardless? Also, if someone proposed to me in front of a bunch of people, I'm gonna say no for the simple fact that you don't know me well enough to know that I did not want to be proposed to in front of other people.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think that there's, like, definitely something to be said for truly knowing your partner before you're putting yourself in a situation like that. I would not like a public proposal. I would not like other people to be there for such like. Like what I feel like should be an intimate moment. I know a lot of people like to have an audience. Like, that's fine, just not for me. Why are we doing something in public that you were specifically told you didn't.

[Kale Lowry]

Want, and then you're mad that she didn't post it?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, no, just take your ring back and get on. Because I know based off of this decision that you made, we're getting divorced anyway.

[Kale Lowry]

Yeah, that's a fact. That is. Like, I think it would be cute if you. If. If the person proposing has. Wants people to be there, they don't need to witness the proposal. They can be, like, waiting at a restaurant for, like, a surprise after the fact. But I think to have, like, everyone hiding in the bushes for this proposal, that would. I would be so pissed off and embarrassed.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I also would be very pissed off and embarrassed. Like, could you imagine me in a public proposal?

[Kale Lowry]

No. And honestly, I would have secondhand embarrassment for you because I know that you wouldn't want that. So I would be pissed off for you, and I would feel like I was like, what is the word I'm looking for? Like, interfering, like, overstepping. Like, it would feel. It's. It's like people in my real life have said, I have never watched Teen mom because it felt in. Like I was invading your privacy. Like, they're like, I didn't want to see you on TV because I know you in real life, and it's weird. And it would feel like that for me to you if I know that you don't want a proposal and your partner was like, hey, I want to invite you to this proposal. In my head, I'm going to be like, well, I'll wait for her to be done and I'll meet her somewhere after, I'll meet you guys at a restaurant. But I'm not going to watch the proposal because in my head, I feel like I'm invading your privacy. And I also know you don't want that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But don't we all need friends like that that would, like, literally ride for you that hard to be like, okay, I know that you think that this is a good idea to do this publicly and by all these people, but I'm here to tell you I'm not showing up. Two reasons. Number one, I know that she doesn't want it, and number two, you're a dumb ass.

[Kale Lowry]

I think a cute, like, private photographer is fine, but, like, a audience. No, do not invite your brothers, cousins, dads, uncles. I don't want them there.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, I'm just so embarrassed about public stuff like that. I don't know if I ever told you that. When I got engaged to Will, we were in New York City, and he kept carrying this backpack around everywhere. And it was like, there was nothing in the backpack. Like, we would leave the hotel, and he just had this backpack. And I'm like, what are you doing?

[Kale Lowry]

Like, you would be able to see the ring in his pocket if it was just in his pocket.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. But he ended up proposing to me, and, like, very not nice hotel in Queens. Queens, yeah. And when I tell you, like, there was a perfect moment that he could have done it. So hearing his side of things, he was like, I don't know. Like, I was just, like, so nervous, and I didn't know, like, when to do it. And we went and did all this stuff, and I thought, oh, well, maybe I'll do it in Central Park. And then the time passed, and then I was like, oh, maybe I'll do it in, like, this other place. Time passed, so I just. I just had to do it here. So we had. We rode the subway and we were walking.

[Kale Lowry]

You got on a subway?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I rode on a subway. This was back when we were still in college and we had actual zero money. Like, we had absolutely no business to be in New York City, but. But we were there, and he was planning on. We were getting engaged on this trip. So we get off the subway and we're walking, and it starts pouring down rain, like, on our walk back. And I'm in the middle of this crosswalk, and he has this backpack on with nothing in it. And then we get back to the hotel, we order pizza to the room, and I'm just sitting on the bed, looking like a troll, eating pizza, and he gets down on one knee in the bedroom. Mind you, this is like maybe 200 square feet, like, if that. Like, the tiniest room. And I just had to ask him, like, I probably ruined the moment, but I'm just like, why the were you hearing the backpack around, like, all that time if you were just gonna do it here over pizza in the shitty hotel?

[Kale Lowry]

Because he was nervous, but, like, he. A man is proposing to you while you're looking like a troll, stuffing your face. That is the man for you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

That is love.

[Kale Lowry]

Like, that is so sweet because he's like, I want to marry you even when you look like a troll. Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But then the worst part of it all was when I told my dad that we were engaged. This was Father's Day weekend. And I think that Will, from. From Will's perspective of it, he was like, I wasn't planning on getting engaged you on Father's Day, but we were leaving tomorrow. So I carried this ring all over New York City for days and didn't do it. And then it just, like, time kept creeping up. Time kept creeping up. So I was just like, I gotta do it.

[Kale Lowry]

It.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And it's Father's Day.

[Kale Lowry]

I'm cracking up. I can.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Can we imagine just like Will with that backpack, just, like, bouncing on his back with not in it.

[Kale Lowry]

I need someone. Somebody made. I think it was Alessandra made with AI. I was telling somebody that I wanted to know how many balloons it would take to lift me off the ground. And so she made this, like, AI gif of me with balloons, and I. An AI gif of like, Will with the backpack.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, how many balloons was it?

[Kale Lowry]

I don't know. Hundreds. Like, I'm not getting it. I am 300 pounds of pure solid fat. Okay, Like, I.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You are not £300.

[Kale Lowry]

It would take.

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[Kale Lowry]

Hundreds of balloons.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes, she. She officially has lost her mind. And on that note, we have foul play.

[Kale Lowry]

Hi, ladies. I've been listening for years, and I'm so excited to finally have a foul play to share. I'm not sure who I know that listens to this podcast, so let's keep me anonymous just in case. So I've been with my boyfriend for about three years. For some context, he's celibate and waiting until marriage for sex to answer your possible questions. No, I wasn't celibate. I am now by association, but I'm not a virgin. 2. Yes, it's frustrating sometimes. 3, yes, I'm guilty of trying to convince him, but let me explain. He's what I like to call, quote, modified celibate. We absolutely mess around and come pretty close to sex, but not full penetration. I let him lead, and I just follow along and occasionally try to talk him into it. The other night, we were messing around. I was on top, and neither one of us were wearing any underwear. Oh, that's okay. Anyway, I'm up there grinding, and I finish pretty hard as I finish kill Is this you? Is this me? As finished, I farted. I didn't. I didn't say anything about it, and neither did he. We just our session and went to sleep. The next night, we were laying in bed and he said, let me ask you something. By this point, I forgot it. I forgotten. And he catches me off guard. The other night, did you queef? I said, no, that was a fart. And after we laugh about it, he says, I really hoped it was a queef. I wanted to make you queef. I looked at him and said, babe, what is a queef? To my surprise, he answered correctly. When air comes out of your vagina, Right? So why would I queef? He says, you just made so much sense. You're absolutely right. Yet another reminder of how I don't get filled with dick.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, wait, that's my lie.

[Kale Lowry]

That's probably why she said it. Love you, ladies. Keep doing the damn thing. I. Queefs are my worst nightmare. I don't understand, like, they. Especially doggy style. Like, I'm queefing, and I'm embarrassed because I don't know. I know I've said this before, but, like, I don't think men know the difference between a queef and a fart, because why is. No, they don't. They just pretend they do.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I feel like they definitely do, but, like, are you the type of queefer that it's like, a consistent queefing, like, once it starts, or it's like, oh, one time and then.

[Kale Lowry]

Well, like, once. So here's the thing. The first group I ever had was. I was an adult, and it was after doggy, and it was one the longest queef of my life to the point where I, like, had to, like, hold it to, like, stop. And I was like, oh, my God, like, what was that? Like, what is that? Like, I had no idea. Now I feel like I can feel when I know there's a queef coming, and then I can, like, try to hold it a little bit, but then as soon as I go pee. Because you're supposed to pee after sex. Like, it's coming out, and it sounds like farts. I was in the toilet. It. It just, like, reverberates off the. And they're like, airy farts out of your vagina.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I cannot. How often does this happen to you after doggy style?

[Kale Lowry]

Every time.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, I need to ask. And everybody listening can also give us answers to this. When you have sex, do you just, like, do one position the whole time, or are you, like, rotating like a rotisserie chain.

[Kale Lowry]

It depends some. Sometimes we're rotating and sometimes it's like, like we're both two strokes in and we're both coming, you know.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Also same I very much relate to that and I feel like that's what the majority of people would say. Like sometimes it's just like we don't have else to do. This is going to be like a long ride. And then sometimes it's like, okay, it's.

[Kale Lowry]

Like couple pumps done road hard and hung up wet.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kale Lowry]

See ya. Is this thing on?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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