Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry & Lindsie Chrisley

Episode: Stability is the New Success!

Release Date: January 15, 2026
Hosts: Kail Lowry (Teen Mom) & Lindsie Chrisley (Chrisley Knows Best)

Episode Overview

In this candid and wide-ranging conversation, Kail and Lindsie reflect on what “success” means to them as women, mothers, and former reality TV stars. They explore how their values have evolved—from chasing excitement and external validation to seeking stability, peace, privacy, and genuine connections. Through relatable anecdotes, honest admissions, and a few signature rants, the duo digs deep into topics like relationships, cheating, boundaries, parenting (especially twins!), the drama of “fake” friendships, generational shifts, and the pressures of living in public while striving for a grounded, intentional life.
Tone: Open, irreverent, honest, supportive, and often funny.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kicking Off: Personal Catch Up, Hair, & Dreams

• Both are considering changes in their personal routines and look—hair talk, Brazilian blowouts (“Do you see how like wiry the bottom of my hair is right now? It’s because it’s wearing off.” – Lindsie, 02:06).
• Lindsie shares a vivid dream about her son, Jackson, driving recklessly—a segue into how subconscious anxieties manifest in dreams (04:22-05:13).

2. Relationship Red Flags & Cheating: Past and Present

• Deep-dive into accountability and transparency in relationships, especially around cheating and histories.
• Kail: “I used to be a cheater too, and I don’t cheat now. So what difference does it make? I don’t care.” (09:22)
• Both agree that “once a cheater, always a cheater” is too simplistic, though patterns matter.
• Lindsie values a “girl’s girl” perspective and worries about being with someone who mistreated past partners.
• “People who want to change can,” says Kail (17:23), highlighting the importance of communication and honesty when moving forward from mistakes.
• Mutual agreement that holding people accountable for their past—if discussed openly—can actually be empowering.

3. Main Theme: Stability is the New Success (18:06)

• Lindsie: “Stability is the new success. I agree with that more than anything that I have heard…”
• Kail expands on stability across various life aspects—home, relationships, finance, and mental health—linking them directly to happiness (18:26).
• Advice for finding stability:
  • “Literally doing a brain dump… writing down where you want yourself to be at the end of 2026.” – Kail (19:07)
• Lindsie emphasizes intentionality and being fully present, despite the busyness of motherhood ("We all have 24 hours in a day… I just want to be intentional about the time. And I think that that creates a form of stability." – 20:18).

4. Redefining Success after Reality TV (22:02-25:02)

• Exiting reality TV shifted their perspectives—no longer tying self-worth to being on screen.
• Kail’s struggle: “I had thought before, like, I have nothing without being on tv. I am nobody. I have nothing to offer. And so I have struggled with that since I left.” (23:54)
• Lindsie: Success now means small, meaningful things—family dinners, clean sheets, sharing quiet time with a tight-knit circle.

5. Boundaries, Friendships, and Conflict Avoidance (29:17-36:49)

• What once felt exciting (nights out, lots of friendships) now feels exhausting.
• Both admit to maintaining surface-level friendships to avoid online or real-life backlash.
  • Kail: “It’s exhausting to continue to be friends with them… But I have to learn the hard way.” (29:51)
• Lindsie’s therapist encouraged her not to cause herself internal conflict by keeping up fake relationships.
• They discuss gradually distancing as a more peaceful way to end friendships versus direct cut-offs which can stir drama.
• Memorable: “The only ones that can really hurt you are people that you’ve loved and lost.” – Kail (36:37)

6. Choosing Consistency versus Chaos (38:08-41:25)

• Kail owns being “chaotic by nature,” but now values constants in her life. “Chaos is my brand, unfortunately… But consistency in the chaos…” (38:08)
• Stability is now a learned and appreciated goal; both have required therapy and reflection to transition from thriving on chaos to seeking peace.
• On identity: Kail admits, “I am absolutely in an identity crisis.” (40:29)
• Deeper discussion about their children, especially Kail's twins, and the challenges of fostering both individuality and sibling bonds.

7. Privacy, Social Media Pressure, & Content Creation (49:45-55:00)

• Both agree that privacy is peace, but it's problematic in their public roles.
• Kail laments the blurred line between what’s private, what’s “secret,” and what’s owed to the public.
• Social media culture creates constant pressure to overshare or explain themselves.
• On comparison: Lindsie reassures Kail about not falling into the trap of comparing herself to full-time content creators who “put all their eggs in one basket.”
• Lindsie notes people now often choose lower-paying remote jobs if it means greater stability and time for themselves and family.

8. Parenting and Generational Change (55:26-63:50)

• Kail sees herself as the “provider”—operating in a masculine energy—and discusses the evolving landscape for Gen Z and Gen Alpha (“I’m the man. I’ve lived in a masculine energy for my entire life. That’s why I think that I just thrive better outside the home.” – 57:42)
• Lindsie wonders about generational shifts—public school vs. private, impact of tech, and kids’ shrinking attention spans.
• Both are fascinated (and a bit wary) of what Gen Alpha will become given their unique upbringing with ubiquitous tech and less pen-and-paper learning.

9. AI, Technology, and the Future of Work and School (62:14-64:45)

• Candid about whether traditional education (e.g., exams) is relevant in an AI-dominated world.
• Discussing how AI is now even entering book publishing—raising questions about authorship and value.

10. Lighthearted Wrap-Up: Parenting & Foul Play (Sharting Stories) (65:33-67:24)

• The signature “foul play” segment features a listener story about accidentally sharting at a new job, leading to a hilarious and open exchange about bodily mishaps.
• Kail: “I’ve never sharted myself. I’ve either full-blown shit myself or just farted. I’ve never sharted.” (66:54)
• Ends on a laugh, with Lindsie and Kail encouraging honesty and camaraderie in even the most embarrassing moments.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Remember when we first… Wait, I don’t think I had short hair when we first started Coffee Convos, did I?” – Lindsie Chrisley, reminiscing about life changes (03:17)
• “Once a cheater, always a cheater—I don’t believe that.” – Kail Lowry (14:59)
• “Stability across the board... All of those things will lead to happiness and success. I wholeheartedly believe that.” – Kail (18:26)
• “Success is being at peace and being content. There’s a difference between being content and being complacent.” – Kail Lowry (22:13)
• “The less people that I’m in contact with, the happier I am.” – Kail (25:42)
• “Have you ever been, like, in friendships with people that you know, like, it's not genuine?” – Lindsie (29:37)
• “Chaos is my brand, unfortunately.” – Kail (38:08)
• “I am absolutely in an identity crisis.” – Kail (40:29)
• “Privacy is a form of peace.” – Lindsie (49:45)
• “I want to be intentional about the time. And I think that that creates a form of stability.” – Lindsie (20:18)
• “Why are we even taking tests at this point?” – Kail, questioning education in the AI era (63:50)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Gift-Giving, Hair Talk, and Dreams: 01:13–05:13
• Relationship Histories & Cheating Discussion: 06:07–17:23
• Stability as Success: 18:06–22:02
• Redefining Success, Post-Reality TV: 22:02–25:02
• Authenticity, Boundaries in Friendships: 29:17–36:49
• Consistency vs. Chaos and Parenting Twins: 38:08–49:03
• Privacy & Social Media Pressure: 49:45–55:00
• Work, Generations, and the Future: 55:26–64:45
• Foul Play—Listener Story: 65:33–67:24

Overall: The Big Takeaway

Kail and Lindsie are prioritizing stability—not splashy “success.” They advocate for simplifying life, protecting one’s peace, and seeking quality over quantity in relationships, work, and family. Their honesty about their struggles with identity, boundaries, and life after fame resonates deeply, while their humor and candor keep the conversation lively and relatable.

Great for listeners who appreciate real talk about personal growth, motherhood, and figuring out what matters most—especially for anyone learning to leave old definitions of success behind in favor of peace and stability.