Cap framed the show around a gap between broader market fear and crypto sentiment, arguing crypto may have front-run the bottom and could respond quickly if liquidity or macro conditions improve. From there, the conversation turned toward what NFT brands and products actually need to build, with skepticism around AI-agent wrappers and more focus on utility people will actually pay for. Pudgy World, paid features and tokenized security ideas all fed into a broader point that speculation alone is not enough. The back half widened that lens through RWAs and business models, from tokenized silver in Hong Kong to smaller community flywheels like Tatsu and Del Mundos that try to create recurring reasons to participate.

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