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Debbie / Jasmine (Survivors)
He said, if you scream and if you turn around, I'm going to kill you real people.
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airplane with who faced death.
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to tell how I thought for sure that these men were going to go and kill my husband.
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This is I survived. It's March 1989 in Williamsburg, Virginia. Debbie lives in a quiet neighborhood with her husband and two children. Her husband, Rob, a police officer, is working the night shift.
Debbie / Jasmine (Survivors)
That morning I got up and I was going to have an extremely busy day. I had the children deposited at school and I came back home. And before Rob ever even got home from work, I had the entire upstairs cleaned. He came home after being up for over 36 hours. He, of course, was exhausted.
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Rob went upstairs to sleep.
Debbie / Jasmine (Survivors)
I had to make a dessert for dinner with friends that evening. And so as I was plugging in the mixer, my eyes caught sight of through the window of a man in my neighbor's backyard. I thought, I'm going to call the police and let them know. As I was doing it, I remembered a phone call that I had gotten from my neighbor the day before, and she had called me and said, debbie, I just want you to know that I'm going out of town for the weekend, but there will be a landscaper to come by and look at this tree that has died because they need to replace it. He was dressed sort of like a landscaper. He had on kind of a rubber type of boot that came up to his knee, and he was actually standing beside the tree that was in question. So I dismissed that as far as being anything that I needed to worry about, Thinking it was just the landscaper.
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Debbie took the trash out to the
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backyard, and as I came back in, my eyes caught the sight of the dessert, and I said, oh, my gosh, I've got to get that into the refrigerator. I had just turned my mixer on, and so I couldn't hear anything. And all of a sudden, I feel an arm around my neck, and I reached up automatically, and I patted the arm and. And I said, what are you doing up? Because I thought it was my husband. My eyes went down to the floor, and I caught sight of his boots. And I realized that the man that I had seen in my neighbor's yard was now in my kitchen. I see this bat come up to my eyes, and he said, if you scream and if you turn around, I'm going to kill you. He set the baseball bat down and picked up my purse and put it on my shoulder. He stuck something in my back, and he said, I have a gun, and I'm going to kill you if you don't cooperate with me. And then he started walking me out of the house towards the back door. He opened the door that leads into the garage, and he walked me down the steps. And he's constantly telling me, don't turn around, don't scream. Just do what I tell you to do, and you're going to be all right. If I'm going to scream, now is the time to do that. But if I scream, my husband, after being awake for so many hours, is going to come down, and he's going to be unaware of what's going on. And I thought, he's gonna get killed. He's gonna get shot. And I thought, then my children will have nobody. And I thought, I can't do this. I've got to. I've just got to do this and just hope for the best. He takes me down the steps that you have to go down into the garage. His grip loosened up, and so I ran. I ran back up the steps in the garage. And as I was running, just the very tip of my tennis shoe had hit the second step. And so I fell, and he grabbed hold of me, and he kept telling me that he meant it, that if I tried anything again, that he was going to kill me. I remember thinking that this is it. It's all gonna be over now. I'd heard my husband say that just statistically if they take you from the home, that you don't come back alive. He kept saying to me constantly, you remember, I know where you live, and if you tell anybody what's happening, then I'm gonna kill you. We go back out through the back door. I remember having this unbelievable strong urge to say to him that I was listening to Christian radio. I'm thinking, this is stupid. Don't tell him that. But I just blurted out I was listening to Christian radio, and I've got two children. Don't hurt me. And he said, well, I'm going to let you go as soon as we get around this fence, as soon as we get around the corner.
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The man walked Debbie into the woods behind her house.
Debbie / Jasmine (Survivors)
I thought to myself, I have to be okay. I've made a decision. And I. That decision was to relinquish myself to this man. I may not be alive at the end of this, but that's okay because I knew my family would be safe. And I was terrified. When we walked, he walked me further into the woods and. And I remind him what he had told me. I said, you told me that you were going to let me go. And he said, well, as soon as the guys get here, then I'm going to let you go. He says, I'm not going to hurt you, but I don't know what they're going to want to do to you. And I'm thinking, oh, my God, when is bad enough? What is going to happen now? So he said, I want you to take off your T shirt. I'm going to blindfold you with your T shirt. And I remember just crying and begging him, please don't make me take off my T shirt. He said, just take off your T shirt. So I had to take off my T shirt. And he blindfolded me. And he kept saying, I don't know where the guys are. And then he walked me further into the woods. And I remember trying to listen for sounds of other feet walking on the leaves. And I couldn't hear anything. And then all of a sudden, he says, john, you wait over there. Then he told me to lay down on the ground. And he started to undress me, and he began to rape me. And he kept saying to me, lady, this wasn't supposed to happen like this. I just began to pray. The only prayer that came to mind was the Lord's Prayer. The more I prayed, the angrier he got. Something in me just kept saying, keep saying it. And so I did, and over and over again. And he'd interrupt Me. And I couldn't think of the rest, so I'd go right back to the beginning again. Our Father, who art in heaven. Shut up, lady. And I just start all over again. And then all of a sudden, he just stopped. And he helped me get up, and he helped me to get my jeans back on. He kept saying, I don't mean to be touching you like this, lady. There was almost a compassion for him that was so totally confusing to me because I thought, this man has just raped me, and now I'm feeling sorry for him. Something is wrong here. As I'm thinking that I should run, I'm thinking which direction. I've never. I had never been in those woods before, sighted, much less with a blindfold on. He still had a hold of me, and I could hear him going through my purse. He pulled my wallet out, and he said, I know you've got to have more money than this lady. And I said, I don't. This is all the money I have. And he said, lady, I know living in a house like that, you've got to have more money. I thought that perhaps if I could get him to take me home, that my husband would hear our voices in the hallway and that his training as a police officer would just kick into gear. Knowing that there was a strange voice. And I said, I have $50 in my drawer upstairs. It was the first time through the whole thing that I really thought that I might have a chance to live. And all of a sudden he just said, who's upstairs, lady? Is your husband asleep upstairs? And I said, no, no, no, there's nobody home. There's nobody home. He just grabbed me and he said, he's home asleep, isn't he? And I finally just started crying, and I said, yes. And as soon as I got it out of my mouth, I thought, oh, my God, now I may have cost my husband his life as well. I thought for sure that these men. We're going to go and kill my husband. And I just. I was so upset with myself that I could have given him up that way. But all of a sudden, the mood changed again. And he told me to take the blindfold off. And he kept saying to me the whole time, lady, I'm telling you, don't you tell anybody about this, he said, because if you do, I'm going to come back and I'm going to kill you and I'm going to kill your family. You remember, I know where you live. He said, last week there, you know, me and the guys, there was another lady and she told. And they went back and they killed her. And I just told him, I said, I won't. I promise I won't. I won't tell anybody. He said, you better not turn around because I'm going to shoot you. He said, and you just act like you've been for a stroll in the woods. When you get home, just tell your husband that you fell down or something. He said, if you go straight through there, he said, you'll see your neighbors homes. So I began to walk away from him. I'm thinking, okay, there's no way he's letting me go. And I truly expected to feel a bullet in my back. And all of a sudden I hear him holler, lady. And I stopped and I said, what? And he said, you keep listening to that Christian radio. So I start walking again, and all of a sudden I hear again, and lady. And I stopped and I said, what? And he said, lock your doors. And I just started running and I ran like my life depended on it. When I got to the house, I put my hand on the doorknob and I thought, oh, my God, what if the men are in the house? Is my husband dead? I got to my back door, and as I reached for the handle of the door, I hesitated because I thought, oh, my God, he's only let me go because the guys are in my house, but I've got to go in. Then I could at least call 911. So I went in, and of course nobody was there. I ran upstairs and I woke my husband up with the only words I could get out of my mouth. And I just screamed. He got me, Rob. He got me. When my husband began to call the police, I kept screaming, no, no, no, you can't. You can't tell anybody because he's going to come back and he's going to kill us. He was just kind of holding on to me and telling me it was going to be all right. He says, I. I have to call the police.
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A backlog in DNA processing meant that Debbie's attacker was not identified. It was over six years before a match was found.
Debbie / Jasmine (Survivors)
My husband shows up at the door and he hands me the composite that was drawn after I was raped. And he said, here, you can throw this away. We don't need it anymore. And I looked at him and I said, what? And he said, we got him. We know who he is. Not only did they know who he was, but that he was already in prison. And actually he had been incarcerated six months after he raped me.
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Norman Jimerson was in prison for abducting two women after Debbie's attack. He was sentenced to two life terms plus 25 years prior to the attack on Debbie.
Debbie / Jasmine (Survivors)
I believe I survived because he made a connection between my prayers that I had prayed, the Christian radio station that I had told him about, and his Christian grandmother who had actually raised him. And I think that it's why he let me walk out is that he remembered that grandmother that he dearly loved and he knew what this would do to her. Once they had identified my attacker, I realized this flood of peace that had come over me and I wanted to find a way to offer that same sense of justice, that same sense of peace to other rape victims. For me, that gives all of this a purpose. And that's all I need.
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It's November 1999 over the Pacific Ocean. Ray has been a professional pilot for over 30 years.
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One of the things that some pilots can do and I'm one of them, I became a ferry pilot. We deliver airplanes worldwide to anywhere from anywhere.
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Ray is delivering a single engine plane from the USA to Australia.
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The longest oceanic crossing in the world is between the west coast of America and Hawaii. There is nothing in between.
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Ray's friend Shane was the co pilot for the crossing.
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It was to be his first and only ferry flight and he was doing it for the adventure. We departed out of Santa Barbara early one morning about 5:30 local time and proceeded till we got about halfway and I was having a little nap and when I woke up Shane said to me I've been watching that oil pressure gauge and it's gone from the hard right hand side there to about the center. And I said oh boy, I'm getting out the Coast Guard. And he said really? When the oil pressure drops in an aircraft or any engine in the long term is going to mean the engine is going to seize fail. Maybe it was only the gauge, but maybe not.
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Ray contacted the US Coast Guard in
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Hawaii just as they started to call me on the radio and talk to me about where we are. I did notice that the the oil temperature in the aircraft was starting to get hotter and hotter and I knew then that we did have a problem. They come out to greet us and what we call shadow us in case the airplane stops and they can then deploy life rafts if needed and alert shipping or set up the general search and rescue. Land at that stage was about 800, 900 miles from Hawaii. Santa Barbara was 11 or 1200 miles behind me. So it was too late to go back. And in any case I knew that if you turn around and go back and you ditch, you're in getting into very cold water, you're far better off. You're going to ditch this aircraft to be in warm water close to Hawaii. We both put on our life jackets and discussed that we should make sure that everything at the rear of the airplane is as secure as it can so it doesn't come forward and hit us on the head. Shane and I discussed the situation and whether we should make the ditching while it was still daylight or whether we should proceed on. The pressure on you to continue on is great. You don't really want to go down into the water. And so we made a bad decision that we continue on.
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Two hours from Hawaii the engine exploded, damaging the battery.
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The radio, I couldn't really talk on the radio was gone. Everything had gone. We were there in a box in a black hole. That's really all it was. And we had no lights at that stage, nor had we any electric backup instruments. So I was in this terrible situation of having no instruments to fly the airplane with.
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Ray had to glide the plane down at night through a layer of cloud.
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It is impossible for any human being to maintain direction or to keep the airplane upright if they do not have instruments in front of them. I knew, of course, as a longtime instructor, that if you lose sight of the instruments or don't pay attention to the instruments, the aeroplane is going to come out in a big spiral dive. It's a very dangerous manoeuvre and it's killed a lot of people. I didn't know whether the airplane was turning left or right. There was no instruments that I could actually fly the airplane on. So I took my hands off the control column. I could control the rate of descent because we had an instrument in the airplane that's not reliant upon engine power. Fortunately for me, the airplane came out at the bottom of the cloud, about 2,000ft above sea level.
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A U.S. coast Guard plane that was following them dropped a line of flares.
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Shane called out that he could see the lights that had been dropped in the ocean by the Coast Guard over on his left hand side. And I turned over that way, got level with the water and there was nothing much that we could do but just hang on. And I held the airplane level till it just flopped onto the water. Amazingly, the airplane didn't turn upside down. I got out on the right hand wing, opened the door. I still had dry feet and Shane handed me the life raft and I deployed the life raft and unfortunately the life raft did not work. I said we should get off the rear of the wing of the aircraft because it will sink Nose forward, the engine being the heaviest part of the airplane, it will go down like the Titanic.
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Wearing life jackets, Ray and Shane jumped into the ocean.
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The airplane slowly goes down until it's gone disappeared. And that is an eerie feeling. My trousers became a problem. I had $3,500 US dollars in my pocket and $1,200 Australian. They kept slipping down a little bit and I kept tightening the belt and that was uncomfortable so I decided that I would just undo the belt and let them go. Money is not everything and my life was more valued to that so I had to prevent myself from drowning. The big problem out there in this sort of situation is to prevent yourself from drowning. The Coast Guard was circling over the top of us and I did not realise that they could not see us. After a short time they went back to Hawaii. So I wasn't really too upset about it. I knew that we could float around in the water there for some time. I knew that help was there, they'd been there with us, they were going to continue to support us. I was very aware of that. Shane probably wasn't much aware when he said he hoped they would come back. I said I'm sure they'll come back, they'll be back there. We had a survival beacon and this beacon puts out a frequency which overflying airplanes can detect and they can find the position of you in the ocean. And unfortunately I did not know at the time but this beacon did not work. It was brand new.
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Ray and Shane were battling against nine foot high waves.
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It was pitch black, dark. We had no idea where the wave was coming from or whether we turned around or which direction we were going to hit by a wave next time. And so after a period of time, probably two to three hours, I'd taken a lot of water in to my stomach and I said duchene, this salt water in my stomach's really making me feel bad. And he said, you will have to make yourself sick. He said, you know the old trick, put your fingers down your throat. It's the most awful thing I've ever done. After the fourth time when I vomited I was feeling very weak, was just concerned that I wouldn't be able to go forever like this. We were busily waving these little tiny lights that are attached on a string to the life jacket and we were waving these about because we felt that they would see them and perhaps drop us a life raft.
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Using night vision equipment, the US Coast Guard spotted Ray and Shane.
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The thing that we didn't realize was that they weren't going to deploy life rafts at night because at nighttime you wouldn't see it.
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So they did not drop life rafts to us. But what they did was put four big lights around us, probably three or 400 yards apart. And we were in the middle of that. During the night, with the Coast Guard airplane above us, Shane said to me, there's a wreck of a ship on a reef over there. My eyes were badly affected by salt water all night. I was getting to the stage where I could barely see. I wondered whether it was getting to Shane, whether he was losing his mind. I said, shane, I can assure you that there is no reef. He said, I'm sure it's a ship on a reef. I'm going to go over and see about it. I crested a fairly large wave, and even with my eyesight as poor as it was, I could see very plainly that there was a ship standing by there.
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A Croatian ship had responded to a call from the US Coast Guard.
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Shane swam over, and I swam over very slowly because I was very weak when I got there. Despite shouting and things, nobody seemed to give me any attention. And I was flabbergasted. This I was trying to swim to the rear of the ship to grab hold of anything to hang on. Shane tried to get onto a walkway that they'd let down and he couldn't get on it. And so what they had done is threw him life buoys, and he had got in, hung onto one of those, and they put a lot of ropes on it and they hauled him up over the side of the ship. All of a sudden I could hear feet running, and when they got down, they yelled out to me, grab hold of this. And they threw me out of life buoy, and they pulled me into the ship. It was a very modern ship. It had like a little hospital on board, which was great.
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Ray was treated for dehydration after being in the Ocean for over 10 hours. Ray and Shane were then safely transported to Hawaii.
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I survived because of my experience as a flight instructor that would enable me to get the airplane down through a bank of cloud without any instrumentation. One of the other reasons that I survived was that I was in waters that were patrolled or under the U.S. coast Guard. It is without doubt the best rescue service in the world.
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and this was his weekend with the children. And she wanted to kind of relax and kind of take a break. She really didn't want to go. Miranda and I got to Ron's house and Miranda told Ron that she wanted to help him get the children dressed for the open house, but she didn't want to go. He was upset. They argued. He put us out and he kept the children. And then at that point, we got in the car and me and Miranda left. Ron was calling Miranda's phone. He was, you know, telling her, you know, he's gonna get at her. And she would ask me what that meant. And I didn't know. I'm like, well, maybe he just doesn't want to talk to you anymore. Or, you know, it didn't make sense to me. So I didn't know what to tell her. It seemed like it was something that after maybe a few hours, he would be okay. He seemed heated at the moment, but it didn't seem like it was something that was going to last. At that point, you know, I kind of calmed Miranda down and told her it would be okay. Just let him calm down.
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Jasmine took Miranda home and invited their friends Fred and Kevin over for dinner.
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And we were all hanging out, laughing. Fred was very jokey type of a person. Very silly, make everybody laugh. Ron was calling Miranda throughout the night while we were there, but she wasn't answering. Around 9 o', clock, we hear a knock at the door. Miranda looks out the peephole and sees that it's Ron. And she tells all of us, you know, to be quiet. If we're quiet, he'll go away. And the knocks get harder and harder. And I look at her and I'm like, miranda, I don't think he's going away. Ron starts talking through the door. He's like, basically telling us, miranda, I know you're in there. You need to open up the door. At that point, I get scared. I ask Miranda, you know, can I call the police? And she tells me, no, Jasmine, if you call the police, he's gonna try to take my children. Miranda didn't want to do anything to aggravate him to where she would lose her children. Her children were her life. So maybe about 15 minutes, he leaves, he walks down the stairs. Maybe five minutes later, we hear him talking through the door again. So he's back, and I hear a gun cock. I told them he has a gun. And they're like, no. I'm like, yes, he has a gun. I knew Ron since I was 16 years old. I just didn't see him as a murderer or a killer. Maybe two minutes later, he kicks the door. The deadbolt chain, everything. The door just flies. Eyes open. One kick. My heart stopped because I really didn't know what was about to happen. And he was standing there and he was breathing hard, and he looked like a monster. Like rage had just taken over him. Maybe the gun was just to intimidate us. But when he raised it, I knew at that point he was going to pull the trigger. He took about two steps towards Fred, and Fred at that point, looks at Kevin like, what's going on? And Ron puts the gun up to Fred's head and pulls the trigger. I seen Fred's eyes kind of roll in the back of his head, and he fell off the couch, and I knew he was dead. Once he pulls the trigger and shoots Fred in the head, I kind of like froze. After he shot Fred, he turned the gun on Kevin and he shot Kevin twice. And Kevin slumped over, but Kevin had this smile on his face. So the whole time I was thinking Kevin was alive. Miranda, she was standing next to Ron, and she was, like, pleading, kind of almost tugging on him, trying to get him to stop. After he shot Kevin, he turned the gun on me. I just seemed like my whole life flash in front of me because I felt like at that point, I'm about to die. And he was unloading. He shot at me 11 times. I was struck a total of six times. I remember looking down and seeing these big open areas, and I was bleeding, like water running out of my chest. And I just kept thinking to myself, I've been shot. Like, all of that that I've been through, it's really over now because this is the end. I'm dying. The whole time he was unloading on me. Miranda was crying and pleading. She couldn't get him to stop. She took off running into the bedroom. He went after her. And they were in the bedroom, Miranda and Ron, for maybe a minute or two. And it was quiet. Two minutes later, I heard, pow. I knew she was dead. Something came over me and was like, jack, Jasmine, if you don't play dead, he's gonna kill you. And I kinda hung my head and held my breath. He stepped on Fred on his way out. He did not run. He did not run down the stairs. He walked out. He sat outside in his car. And I knew if I moved, he would see me and he would come back upstairs and kill me. I'm dying slowly like this. Blood was just pouring like a water fountain just out of my chest. And I just remember it being real warm, and I was soaked. Blood was everywhere. I still didn't Know if I was going to live or die. So I waited for his car to start and drive off. I was terrified, scared. I was bleeding, like water coming out of my chest. Once he did drive off, I kind of put my hands, like, over my chest where I was shot and kind of pressed down so that I could get up to get the phone. I sat down and I called the police, but my mind was just gone. I was terrified. I was scared. The 911 caller kept asking me where was I? And all I could remember was our apartment number. And I was so scared, I couldn't keep talking. And, you know, even though they tried to kind of have a conversation with me, I dropped the phone and I laid there and I prayed because I felt like I was dying slowly. I kept trying to breathe and try to calm myself down, and I kept singing every church song I could think of. I just kept singing over and over again because I thought if I kept myself calm and keep myself awake, maybe I'll be okay.
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The emergency services were able to trace Jasmine's call.
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There was a sheriff that came in, and he checked the people that were unconscious first. And he told me, your friends are dead. You need to tell me who did this to you. And I was so scared, I couldn't say his name. And when I laid there and I looked up at the pictures of the children, and the sheriff asked me again, who did this to you? And I still couldn't say his name. I was. I just looked up and I said, the kid's father. And the sheriff was like, okay.
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Jasmine was right. Rushed to the hospital.
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I was shot in my face. And the bullet was a hollow point, so it left a big hole, and the bullet slid to my neck. I was shot right above my heart. It was a hollow point that didn't explode. If that bullet would have exploded, it would have blew my heart away, and I would have died.
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Ron Covington Jr. Turned himself in six days after the shooting. He was convicted of murder and attempted murder and received three life sentences plus 55 years.
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I wasn't mad at him. I forgave him. I still, to this day, don't have any bad feelings towards him at all. I don't understand why, but I don't hate him. Miranda was more like a sister. Um. You know, no matter what I was doing, whether it was wrong or right in her eyes, I could do no wrong. If she wouldn't have took off running, I probably would have died and she would have survived. And I will always love her for that.
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Date: March 14, 2026
Host: A&E / PodcastOne
Narrator: Marisa Pinson
This emotionally intense episode of Cold Case Files features three remarkable survival stories:
The episode delves into themes of trauma, resilience, the power of intuition and faith, and the long arc of justice. Survivor voices propel the narrative, making for a compelling and raw listening experience.
[01:07 – 15:33]
Ordinary Morning Turns Nightmare
The Assault & Kidnapping
The Rape & Emotional Survival
“The more I prayed, the angrier he got... Something in me just kept saying, keep saying it. And so I did, over and over again.” (Debbie, [06:53])
Negotiating for Survival
"You keep listening to that Christian radio." (Attacker, [10:05 – 11:24]) "Lock your doors." (Attacker, [11:24])
Aftermath & Impact of DNA
Restoration & Advocacy
[17:58 – 27:37]
Ferry Flight Gone Wrong
“When the oil pressure drops...in the long term, the engine is going to seize, fail. Maybe it was only the gauge, but maybe not.” (Ray, [18:31])
Critical Decisions & Engine Failure
A Miraculous Ditching and a Harrowing Wait
"It is impossible for any human being to maintain direction or keep the airplane upright if they do not have instruments..." (Ray, [21:17])
Survival in the Water
“Money is not everything and my life was more valued...I had to prevent myself from drowning.” (Ray, [23:00])
Rescue
Reflection on Survival
“It is without doubt the best rescue service in the world.” (Ray, [27:37])
[30:23 – 39:32]
Background – Tense Relationships and Early Warning Signs
Escalation to Violence
“He looked like a monster. Like rage had just taken over him.” (Jasmine, [32:10])
Mass Shooting
“He was unloading. He shot at me 11 times. I was struck a total of six times. I remember looking down and seeing these big open areas, and I was bleeding like water running out of my chest.” (Jasmine, [33:38])
Desperate Survival
“I kept singing every church song I could think of... if I kept myself calm and keep myself awake maybe I’ll be okay.” (Jasmine, [37:58])
Aftermath
Police arrive. Jasmine, unable to voice Ron’s name, identifies him as “the kid’s father.”
She survives, although severely wounded.
Ron Covington Jr. turns himself in after six days; he is convicted and sentenced to multiple life terms plus 55 years.
Jasmine expresses forgiveness:
“I wasn’t mad at him. I forgave him. I still, to this day, don’t have any bad feelings towards him at all. I don’t understand why, but I don’t hate him.” (Jasmine, [39:32])
Jasmine credits Miranda’s actions for her own survival and emotionally honors her friend’s sacrifice.
Debbie on Her Faith:
“I just blurted out I was listening to Christian radio, and I’ve got two children. Don’t hurt me... He said, well, I’m going to let you go as soon as we get around this fence, as soon as we get around the corner.” (Debbie, [05:35])
Ray on His Priorities:
“Money is not everything and my life was more valued...I had to prevent myself from drowning.” (Ray, [23:00])
Jasmine’s Unbelievable Calm Under Fire:
“He was unloading. He shot at me 11 times. I was struck a total of six times. I remember looking down and seeing these big open areas, and I was bleeding like water running out of my chest.” (Jasmine, [33:38])
Jasmine on Facing Her Attacker:
“I wasn’t mad at him. I forgave him. I still, to this day, don’t have any bad feelings towards him at all. I don’t understand why, but I don’t hate him.” (Jasmine, [39:32])
Debbie After Justice:
“Once they had identified my attacker, I realized this flood of peace that had come over me and I wanted to find a way to offer that same sense of justice, that same sense of peace to other rape victims.” (Debbie, [14:36])
This episode of Cold Case Files stands as a powerful testament to the resilience of the human spirit in the face of unthinkable terror and violence. Each survivor’s voice is distinct and moving, sharing not only the physical reality of their ordeals, but also the emotional journeys and the complex aftermath of survival. The episode emphasizes the life-changing importance of justice, faith, forgiveness, and the will to live.
If you haven’t listened, this episode’s vivid details and direct survivor testimony capture both the horror of violent crime and the powerful, complicated aftermath faced by survivors.