REOPENED: Murder in the Midwest

Summary

Cold Case Files: REOPENED – Murder in the Midwest (Aired: June 25, 2026)

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Overview

This episode of Cold Case Files, narrated by Marisa Pinson, revisits the haunting cold case of 15-year-old Lori Nessen, murdered in Columbus, Ohio, in 1974. Decades later, persistent family members and a dedicated police officer finally uncover the truth, which also links the case to the subsequent 1975 murder of Karen Adams. The episode traces the emotional journey of the victims’ families, the frustrations and breakthroughs of the investigation, and the powerful impact of modern forensic science.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Lori Nessen Disappearance & Discovery

• Lori’s character & the initial incident

  • Lori is described as mature beyond her years, smart, sensitive, and a passionate activist even at age 12. (04:00)
  • On September 27, 1974, she planned to attend a football game and spend the night with a friend but never returned home. Her family quickly senses something is wrong. (02:13–03:19)

• Body Found & Initial Investigations

  • Lori's naked body is discovered in a ditch by a couple. There are no immediate signs of homicide, and the autopsy is inconclusive. (05:06–05:42)
  • The location of her body, clean feet, and scattered clothing three miles away are all puzzling to police and family. Initial theories suggest she accepted a ride from someone she might have known, which her family disputes. (06:01–08:26)
  • “Everybody was very adamant about Lori would not get into a car with a stranger.” – Toni Nessen (08:13)

• Early Suspects & Missed Evidence

  • Close friend Scott Richards, who drove a red Mustang, is investigated due to tips and the red car sighting, but alibis clear him. (09:29–10:13)
  • An earlier attempted abduction of Lori by a man named Eugene Guay emerges, making him a suspect, but lacking evidence and the subsequent involvement of an attorney stalls the investigation. (13:58–15:41)
  • Toxicology reports show no drugs or alcohol; Lori’s death is ruled accidental—a decision heavily criticized by her family. (15:41–16:07)
  • “How anybody could rule that as anything but a homicide is beyond me.” – Toni Nessen (16:07)

The Long Freeze and Family Pain

• Case Goes Cold
  • The accidental death ruling means police close the case, leaving the Nessen family devastated and isolated in loss. (16:28–17:54)
  • “We never talked about Lori, ever. It was too painful for my mom.” – Toni Nessen (16:51)

The Breakthrough: Officer Craig Brafford

• Case Reopened After 44 Years

  • In 2019, Officer Craig Brafford, moved by the dormant file, begins an off-duty investigation. (17:54–18:27)
  • He spots previously unnoted injuries and photo evidence suggesting homicide – specifically, mouth injuries consistent with being silenced. (18:50)
  • “This was a clear, clear, obvious homicide.” – Officer Craig Brafford (18:50)
  • He informs Toni Nessen and begins working to overturn the manner of death with coroner authorities. Five months later, in Sept 2020, the ruling is updated to “homicidal violence.” (20:50)
  • “You can't reopen something that was never closed.” – Toni Nessen (20:04)

• Forensics and the COVID Delay

  • New DNA technology is deployed on Lori’s preserved clothes, but pandemic delays slow the analysis. Suspects Scott Richards and Eugene Guay, already deceased, cannot be tested. (21:39–22:27)
  • Toni drives media coverage to generate leads. (22:27–23:03)

The Link: Karen Adams' 1975 Murder

• Parallels with Karen Adams

  • Gene Adams, Karen’s brother, hears about Lori’s re-opened case and notices the frightening similarities to his sister’s case from just six months after Lori’s death—both girls lived nearby, were last seen alive after normal social interactions, and were found abandoned and murdered miles from home. (25:00–27:02)
  • Karen’s cold case saw renewed attention in 2010, when Detective Chuck Clark used DNA evidence to connect her murder to Robert Meyer, a previously convicted rapist. (28:10–29:54)
  • “All I could think of was how Karen’s last few moments were.” – Gene Adams (27:28)
  • Meyer was finally convicted and died in prison; a second unknown DNA contributor is later identified as Charles Weber, Meyer's former accomplice. (29:54–33:57)

• Emotional Reactions

  • Gene Adams recounts confronting Meyer after learning his identity through a sex-offender registry—resisting the urge for vengeance for his mother’s sake. (31:23)
  • “I stood within two feet of him and… just couldn’t do it. He doesn’t deserve that much attention.” – Gene Adams (31:23)

DNA and the Final Answers

• Connecting the Two Cases

  • Forensic DNA analysis of Lori’s and Karen’s cases reveals matching profiles—the same two men, Robert Meyer and Charles Weber, killed both girls. (34:19–34:49)
  • “Not only did we get one foreign individual, but the same two foreign individuals that did this to Lori.” – Narrator (34:50)
  • Survivors of Meyer and Weber describe a pattern: luring girls by pretending to need help, then abduction and assault. (35:12)
  • “They forced her into the vehicle, sexually assaulted her, and then decided that killing her was the best way of concealing their crime.” – Investigator/Forensic Expert (35:26)

• Resolution & Memorial

  • Though both perpetrators had died before these discoveries, Lori’s family holds a graveside memorial, at last able to tell Lori and their mother that the case was solved. (35:49)
  • “We did a memorial service at the graveside. My mom is buried next to Lori, and I got to tell them both that Lori’s case was solved and that they could rest in peace.” – Toni Nessen (35:49)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “A 15 year old girl is going to walk about 10 miles, take all her clothes off in the woods and then walk another five miles naked and lay down in a ditch and pull foliage over her? I never thought it would be solved. But don’t ever give up. Somebody somewhere knows something.” – Toni Nessen (01:28)
• “This was a clear, clear, obvious homicide.” – Officer Craig Brafford (18:50)
• “You can’t reopen something that was never closed.” – Toni Nessen (20:04)
• “All I could think of was how Karen’s last few moments were.” – Gene Adams (27:28)
• “I stood within two feet of him and… just couldn’t do it. He doesn’t deserve that much attention.” – Gene Adams (31:23)
• “I want to make sure families out there and friends don’t ever give up. There’s always some sort of hope. And if my story can help another family, then all of the pain that I’ve been through is worth it.” – Toni Nessen (37:13)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:28 — 06:55: Lori’s disappearance, family’s agony, and body discovery
• 07:41 — 11:12: Early suspect investigations and discovery of Lori’s scattered clothing
• 13:58 — 16:07: The Eugene Guay lead and accidental death ruling
• 17:54 — 21:05: Officer Craig Brafford reopens the case, evidence review, and case’s reclassification as homicide
• 22:27 — 23:03: Family pushes media for help after forensic delays
• 25:00 — 27:02: Karen Adams disappearance and discovery
• 28:10 — 33:57: DNA breakthrough in Karen’s case, unmasking Meyer and Weber’s involvement
• 34:19 — 36:39: DNA links Lori and Karen’s murders, theory of the crimes, and conclusion for both families
• 36:46 — End: Families’ friendship and resolve, call for public vigilance, message of hope

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Conclusion & Takeaways

REOPENED: Murder in the Midwest is a moving account of personal anguish, investigative persistence, and the possibilities of forensic science. Through firsthand family testimony and methodical detective work, this episode ultimately closes a chapter for two Ohio families after nearly 50 years—and serves as a message of perseverance and hope for other families of cold case victims.

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If you have any information regarding similar crimes, please reach out to local authorities. Law enforcement and families believe there may be more victims connected to Meyer and Weber.

Transcript

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[Narrator]

this episode contains descriptions of violence and sexual assault. Listener discretion is advised.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

All those years, nobody ever tried to figure out what happened to my sister Lori. Her death was not ruled as a homicide, it was ruled as undetermined natural causes. A 15 year old girl is going to walk about 10 miles, take all her clothes off in the woods and then walk another five miles naked and lay down in a ditch and pull foliage over her. I never thought it would be solved. But don't ever give up. Somebody somewhere knows something. Now, 45 years later, I want to make sure families know there is hope.

[Narrator]

There are 120,000 unsolved murders in America. Each one is a cold case. Only 1% are ever solved. This is one of those rare stories. It's September 27, 1974 in Columbus, Ohio and 15 year old Eastmore High School sophomore Laurie Nessen has plans to go to the football game. After the game, Laurie heads to a couple of parties and she's supposed to be spending the night with a friend. By 11 the next morning, Laurie still hasn't come home and her 13 year old sister Toni can see that her mother is worried. Lori's mother starts making calls to her daughter's friends to see if anybody has seen Lori.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

They said no. The last that they had heard is Lori was just going to go home. She's going to walk home. It was 1974. We walked places.

[Narrator]

Lori's mother contacts the Columbus police department to file a missing persons report.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

My mother, but she would not portray that to me because she did not want to scare me.

[Narrator]

Toni and Lori's mother Joyce, is raising her two girls on her own. Joyce divorced the girl's fathers years earlier. But it doesn't change the focus and determination Lori exhibits from a young age.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

She was a kid, but she was so ahead of her time. She was a volunteer on McGovern's campaign in 1972. So she would have been 12. I mean, wrap your head around that. 12 years old and is volunteering to work on a presidential campaign. She was off the charts smart and she was extremely active in Israeli rights. My family is Jewish. She was so deep and so sensitive and so wanted to be a voice for anybody that didn't have one. Lori would never disappear. She might come home a little late, but never, ever would she disappear.

[Narrator]

Lori has been missing for just a few hours when a call comes into a police department in a nearby town. Reynoldsburg police Sergeant Jim Koslow and Lieutenant Bill early recall the report.

[Detective]

A husband and wife were hunting for hedge apples and they see deceased young female laying in a ditch.

[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

Detectives responded and they document that it's a white female in her late teens.

[Detective]

She had no clothes on. She did have what appeared to be some bruising on her left arm. It was not obvious to them what had caused the death of this young woman.

[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

They don't see any telltale sign like a rope around the neck or a gunshot wound or anything like that. And then they examined the bottom of her feet, which appear to be, for the most part, clean.

[Detective]

It led investigators after the fact to believe that whatever happened to the young woman happened somewhere else. And then she was left there on Rose Hill Road.

[Narrator]

The coroner takes the unidentified victim's body to the morgue and the story hits the local news.

[Detective]

That night, a friend of Lori's called the police department and notified them that a friend of his matched the description of the young woman that was found in Reynoldsburg, deceased.

[Narrator]

The police asked Joyce Nessen to come to the morgue to identify her daughter's body. Every parent's worst nightmare is confirmed when she sees Lori on the coroner's table. Sadly, she has to Break the news to her other daughter, Tony.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

She said, I need to talk to you about Lori. And I looked at her and I said, oh, well, what about her? And she said, she's not coming home. She's gone. She died. I didn't understand. One minute she was there, and the next minute she was gone.

[Narrator]

The coroner begins to investigate Lori's death.

[Detective]

The autopsy determined that she did have some kind of sexual relation with somebody, but it was not ruled that she was raped, and the manner of death was not ruled homicide. They just weren't able to determine what that reason was.

[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

It's possible that she had a drug overdose or she died of some other cause and was taken there by someone who panicked and dumped them. The toxicology report is still pending. And so they continue to investigate this as a suspicious death. So the investigators, they do just a number of different interviews with fellow friends, students, parents, just about anybody who had contact with her through the football game or any of these after parties.

[Detective]

Lori was last seen by a friend leaving the party at about 10 after midnight. And then again within a few minutes after that. Two more friends that had me driving by saw Lori walking.

[Narrator]

Lori only lived a few minutes walk away from the party she had gone to. Her body was found miles away from her home. So investigators believe that she had accepted a ride from someone. This theory doesn't sit well with those who know Lori.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

Everybody was very adamant about Lori would not get into a car with a stranger. No way. Okay, so the police said that she got into a car with someone she knew.

[Detective]

In my experience, people are killed by more often than not by people that they know.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

This nice little Jewish group of kids now started looking at each other like, well, who did she get in the car with?

[Narrator]

Within a day of Lori's body being discovered, the news of her death dominates the local media outlets, and the coverage leads to tips. One of those tips stands out above the rest.

[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

They receive a call from a woman named Donna up who worked at Mount Carmel East Hospital and had been on her way to work at around 5:45 in the morning. And she says, I recall seeing a girl dressed in similar clothing to what Lori Nesten was wearing when she went missing.

[Detective]

She also reports that she saw a small red colored car that was pulled off in a lane that two locals was called Lovers Lane. They did focus on people that had access to their red car.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

Scott Richards drove a red Mustang. Lori and Scott were like, super, super close, like best friends. And he lived on the same street as us.

[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

Scott Richards was around 16. He hosted the after party at his parents house that she first went to after the football game.

[Narrator]

The investigators take a closer look at Scott Richards.

[Detective]

He was in her circle of friends and acquaintances, but her friends said he was strange and we think he could do something like that. It wasn't just like one person and the more information you get on somebody and the more people are telling you the same thing, that information carries more weight than others. So police acted on that. They went and interviewed Scott Richards as the suspect.

[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

He's able through his parents and himself to account for his whereabouts and the timeframe from the after party to when she's found dead. So even though there may be some lingering doubts, there's no ring door camera video and there's no cell phone GPSing. So they can't even really go out and verify someone's story. They have to take it at face value.

[Narrator]

Two days after Lori's body was found, the Reynoldsburg police get a call about potential evidence.

[Detective]

Reynoldsburg police actually got a phone call that somebody had found shoes on the side of the road in Gahanna, which is a neighboring suburb. And then another report came in that this sweater and her jeans were found. The clothing was located approximately three miles from where Lori's body was found.

[Narrator]

Lori's clothes and shoes are strewn along the right side of the road.

[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

It would be logical to draw the idea that there were perhaps two people in the car when, when that clothing was thrown out. Someone's driving and then someone's in the passenger side from where the clothing went out the window.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

I didn't know any of the circumstances surrounding her death. I did not know that her clothes were in Gahanna. My mom was just protecting me. I don't think a 13 year old could understand the violence that surrounded Lori's death.

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[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

An officer puts two and two together and says, I think I know who this is because this is somebody that they had dealt with. His name was Eugene Guay. He was known to operate in that area on the east side of Columbus, and he would try and lure girls into his car.

[Detective]

Mr. Guay was followed to a bar where it was noted that Mr. Guay had what looked like to be maybe like an infected laceration on his head or his face and that he could have been injured in a struggle if Lori was fighting for her life.

[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

And they decide, hey, we should probably talk to this guy. He's very non committal on his whereabouts around the timeframe of the crime. Nothing that they're able to confirm. He doesn't have an alibi. They actually have a photograph of her and they show it to him. Not only does he recognize her, he makes a comment about, yeah, I didn't like her because she had braces. And so that raises some of the red flags for the investigators that this is somebody that we should really zero in on.

[Narrator]

Eugene Gue denies being involved with Lori's death and he agrees to do a polygraph. In October 1974, the investigators receive a

[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

phone message from the attorney that now represents Eugene Guay, who says that he will not be taking the polygraph. They do get permission via consent to search his vehicle in the hopes that they might find something that would link Eugene Gua to Laurie Nessen and they don't come up with any evidence. Once he retains an attorney, there really isn't anything left for them to do.

[Narrator]

It's now November 1974, and the toxicology results from Lori's autopsy come back. The results show that there were no drugs or alcohol in her system at the time of her death.

[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

Once they received the final coroner's report, it's not ruled as a homicide. It's ruled as a accidental death from unknown origin. There's more questions than answers.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

You didn't have to be some kind of brain to look at the circumstances surrounding her death and where her clothes were and where her body was in relation to where we lived. How anybody could rule that as anything but a homicide is beyond me.

[Narrator]

The accidental death ruling means that the investigation comes to an end. And as far as finding a potential killer, the case goes cold. Laurie's family tries to pick up the pieces, and Joyce wants to make sure her surviving daughter can lead a normal life.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

We never talked about Lori, ever. It was too painful for my mom. I truly 100% believe that if Lori would have been an only child, I do not believe my mom would have survived it. She had me, so she still had to go on. My mom made me go back to school. She got me involved in riding horses. I played sports and got good grades and a boyfriend. My mom was always a very, very vivacious person that loved to entertain, loved to go to parties, loved to dance. And then it all stopped. She went to work and she came home. There was always something missing and it was Laurie. I always wondered if who took my sister from me. At some point there's gotta be some kind of answer somewhere, but I didn't know where to go or how to get it.

[Narrator]

44 years pass by and it's August 2019 when Officer Craig Brafford gets wind of the case.

[Officer Craig Brafford]

I came across the case August of 2019 while looking through the file room. That's what piqued my curiosity is the death certificate did not list a manner of death as homicide. It was listed as undetermined.

[Narrator]

Although the patrol officer is not a detective, he spends his free time re examining local cold cases.

[Officer Craig Brafford]

When Lori went missing, she was the same age as my daughter was. She was 15 years old. And I couldn't imagine going through the next 46 years with no answers.

[Narrator]

Officer Bradford gets permission from the deputy chief to investigate the case on his own time. He gathers the case files and pores over the Autopsy photos.

[Officer Craig Brafford]

There were some injuries that were not listed. Some trauma may have been behind a left ear. But my aha moment was there was one photograph in particular of a detective that lifted up Lori's upper lip, and there was a lot, a lot of damage, which was consistent with possibly being rubbed against the top braces that Lori had. So someone could have been mashing her mouth down to try to keep her quiet. This was a clear, clear, obvious homicide.

[Narrator]

It's February 2020, 45 years after Laurie was murdered, and officer Brafford informs Laurie's sister that he's investigating the cold case.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

I never thought it would be solved because how could it be? It wasn't even ruled a homicide all those years, Nobody ever, ever cared about what happened to her until Craig Bradford.

[Officer Craig Brafford]

I contacted Tony. I felt she deserved answers, her family deserved answers. And I felt that we had an opportunity now to do this, to do it right.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

He said, well, I don't want to reopen an old wound, but I would like to talk to you about your sister. And literally, the minute he said that, it was like somebody punched me in the stomach. So the first thing that I said to Craig when I finally could catch my breath was, you can't reopen something that was never closed.

[Narrator]

Before Bradford can move forward, he needs to convince the coroner that Lori's death was no accident. She was murdered.

[Officer Craig Brafford]

The county coroner and some of the other physicians would have to sit down and review all the aspects of the case before the elected coroner would sign off on it.

[Narrator]

After five months of deliberation, the coroner's office comes back with a decision. In September 2020, the manner of death is overturned and changed from undetermined to homicidal violence.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

Craig got her case reopened and for the first time in 45 years, felt that somebody actually cared about Lori. And so it was extremely emotional.

[Officer Craig Brafford]

For me, that was extremely satisfying. But we still had an uphill battle on our hands because we still had an investigation to conduct. The two main people that had been looked at at the time are Eugene Guay and a friend of Lori's, Scott Richard, had both passed away several years ago.

[Narrator]

Detectives hope new forensic technology will give them a solid lead. They submit Lori's clothing to the crime lab for DNA testing. Bureau of criminal investigations forensic scientist Deveney Herdman gets involved with the case. Unfortunately, this case came in right before the start of the COVID pandemic, and that did slow progress. Like most of the country, we were working from home and definitely can't do DNA analysis from my house. Suspects from the 1970s have died. That, combined with the global pandemic, slows the case to a crawl. Tony is determined not to let the case go cold again.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

Here it is, November, and I got nothing. And that's when I called Lt. Early and I said, I'm going to the media. Somebody somewhere knows something and we need to find that person.

[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

Toni was very adamant about the fact that she wanted to run a news story on it. So one of our local reporters from a news channel here was willing to do that.

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[Narrator]

It's December 2020, and Gene Addams, the brother of 17 year old Karen Adams, who had been murdered just six months after Laurie in 1975, hears about Lori's

[Gene Adams (Karen Adams' brother)]

case, I get a phone call from my cousin Jean. She says, have you seen this story on TV about Lori Neeson? I said, No, I haven't. And she said, well, this sounds just like Karen. So she called the police department.

[Narrator]

Karen Adams body had been discovered around two and a half miles from where Laurie had been found. The detectives feel as though the timeline and geographical closeness of the murders show a connection between Karen and Laurie's cases. At the time of the murder, Karen Adams lived just 10 minutes from Lori Nessen. On the night she was killed, Karen told her parents she was going out for an hour. She drove off and never came back.

[Gene Adams (Karen Adams' brother)]

She said she was going to see a friend about a scarf that she'd left over there and was going to go get it and she'd be right back. 11 o' clock turned around and we knew something was going on then. Karen was never out late at night. The next morning, Karen was reported missing. I was driving around talking with her friends, trying to find my sister. I found her car in a parking lot. I knew something was wrong. She would have never left that car. Never.

[Narrator]

Karen had finally saved enough money from her waitressing job to purchase the car just a few months earlier. It was her first car and her pride and joy.

[Gene Adams (Karen Adams' brother)]

I'd worked on it a little bit, fixed it up a little bit for her, and I remember her taking me for a ride and how happy she was to have that car. That's the only memory that I kind of keep me and her riding around in that car. Karen was the third of five children. Four girls, one boy. I'm the oldest. She was special to our family. Had a great sense of humor. She was looking so much forward to her future.

[Narrator]

Franklin County Sheriff's Office cold case Detective Chuck Clark solved Karen's case in 2011. He recalls the details of the discovery of Karen's body on March 10, 1975.

[Detective Chuck Clark]

It was roughly six to eight miles east of of Whitehall, where Karen lived. Two people just happened to look in the ditch and saw a body.

[Gene Adams (Karen Adams' brother)]

We got the call from the police. They'd found her body. It's like somebody just pulled my guts out of me. All I could think of was how Karen's last few moments were.

[Detective Chuck Clark]

She had some marks on her neck. And once they took her from the scene and did the autopsy, obviously that was confirmed that one, she was sexually assaulted and two, that she was strangled to death. There were no witnesses or fingerprints. Detectives followed as many leads as they could. They spent a good six months to a year on it. They interviewed everyone they could and ran out of leads.

[Gene Adams (Karen Adams' brother)]

The family was. Hey, what are you people doing? I asked to see the file on Karen. They Wouldn't show it to me. I just couldn't get any answers. I tried bribing people. That didn't help. And then it got colder and colder and colder and pretty soon everybody forgets.

[Narrator]

In December 2010, 35 years after Karen's murder, Cold case detective Chuck Clark is searching the database for an inactive case to take on. That's when he finds Karen Adams file.

[Detective Chuck Clark]

Her case seemed to have one of the highest probabilities of being solved, mainly because DNA had come around.

[Narrator]

A forensic test on Karen's clothes reveals the DNA profiles of two, two unknown males.

[Detective Chuck Clark]

They put him in codis, which is the system that identifies suspects. One came back as unknown. And one was a known male that had done time in prison for rape and kidnapping. And his name was Robert Meyer.

[Narrator]

Meyer had been arrested and convicted of raping and kidnapping two women in Toledo, Ohio in 1976, just a year after Karen Adams murder. He spent 25 years in prison and was released in 2001.

[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

When he was released, he was required to provide a DNA sample because of his conviction.

[Detective Chuck Clark]

We just needed to get a DNA swab from him to verify the hit that I got CODIS from the lab. We knocked on his door. Mr. Meyer was very cordial, very polite and he was very compliant. So I got DNA swabs from each cheek and took those swabs right to the lab to be compared.

[Gene Adams (Karen Adams' brother)]

Detectives showed up my door, they said they had a DNA hit with codis and as soon as they get the evidence confirmed they were going to arrest him. It all came back like a flood. It seemed feeling that I got. When I found out that Karen had got killed, I got again. They never told me the name. What they told me was it was a 71 year old convicted rapist that was living in Cincinnati. Well, all you have to do is go to the Hamilton county sex offender website and figure out, you know, how many 71 year old guys you got there. One. I got an address off the website. I went down the scene, I took my gun and I knocked on his door.

[Narrator]

After discovering the address of the man suspected of killing his sister 35 years earlier, Gene Adams heads to Robert Meyer's house with a gun.

[Gene Adams (Karen Adams' brother)]

I kept thinking about my sister's last moments and how bad I wanted to hurt Robert Meyer. I had the gun in my pocket. He opened the door. What do you want inside? My head was ringing like it was going to blow up. I stood within two feet of him and I didn't see his face. I seen my mother's face. I just couldn't do it. He doesn't deserve that much attention. There's no way I could kill that man and put my mother through more heartache over this. I just turned around and walked away.

[Narrator]

In September 2011, the DNA hit is confirmed and Meyer is transported to the Cincinnati Police Department for an interview with Detective Clark. Meyer denies knowing Karen Adams.

[Detective Chuck Clark]

I got the feeling that he actually didn't remember. I think it would have been possible. Who knows how many other crimes he committed against women.

[Gene Adams (Karen Adams' brother)]

They arrested him, he pleads guilty to murder. He was convicted, sentenced 25 years in life. You know, he died four years later.

[Narrator]

Meyer's conviction and death brings some closure to the case. But the identity of Karen's other attacker is still a mystery.

[Detective Chuck Clark]

I discovered that he had an accomplice in Toledo. That person's name was Charles Weber.

[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

Robert Meyer and Charles Weber actually met in prison back in the early to mid-1960s. They live together as soon as they get out of prison and one of them's out of prison not two weeks. And we have Laurie Nessen show up dead. Around six months later, we have Karen Adams who is found dead. And then Weber and Meyer actually moved to Toledo, Ohio, and they attempted twice more to abduct, sexually assault and murder two more victims. Charles Weber went to prison until 1989 and he was released and he died. So we didn't have the opportunity to get his DNA.

[Narrator]

Four years later, in March 2016, Detective Clark tracks down Charles Weber's biological son. Using familial DNA, he can confirm that Weber was the second suspect in Karen Adams murder.

[Gene Adams (Karen Adams' brother)]

It is such a relief to find out who did this and move on with your life and keep the memories of what you had that were good and let the rest of it go. But that is the hardest thing to do.

[Narrator]

It's December 2020 and news stories about Lori Neston's case generate tips.

[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

We received calls with people saying the news story about the death of Lori Nest and sounded very similar to the death of Karen Adams. I contacted Devonia Herdman at the DNA lab. She was actually familiar with the Karen Adams case because she had done the DNA analysis on it.

[Narrator]

I had started comparing Karen's profile from her underwear to the profile from Lori's jeans. They were identical.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

And not only did we get one

[Narrator]

foreign individual, but the same two foreign individuals that did this to Lori. The DNA match and stories from Webers and Myers surviving victims lead to a theory about what happened the night Lori Nessen was murdered.

[Detective Chuck Clark]

The women in Toledo said that they tried to approach them under the guise of needing help, and then once they got close to the car, they jump out and would grab him.

[Investigator/Forensic Expert]

They forced her into the vehicle, sexually assaulted her, and then decided that killing her was the best way of concealing their crime.

[Narrator]

Convinced that Weber and Meyer killed Laurie, investigators finally have answers for Laurie's sister Tony.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

Once Craig told me that Lori's case had been solved and they're both dead, I think I did ask, is there any way that we could exhume their bodies so that I could run over them with my truck multiple times? I'm very. I'm very upset that they never had to pay for what they did to my sister, but I can't spend the rest of my life being concerned with them. So what we did on July 13, which was my 60th birthday, we did a very small memorial service at the graveside. My mom is buried next to Lori, and I got to tell them both that Lori's case was solved and that they could rest in peace.

[Narrator]

The tragedies of their sister's murders bond. Jean and Tony together as friends.

[Gene Adams (Karen Adams' brother)]

Me and Tony Hessen has become very good friends over this. We'll always be in this together, and we talk quite often about the need to do shows like this to get the word out. Law enforcement and the families all believe that there are other victims out there. We're sure of that. If you know of anybody that sounds like this story, contact your local authorities.

[Toni Nessen (Lori's sister)]

I want to make sure that these families out there and friends don't ever give up. Don't ever give up. There's always some sort of hope. And if my story can help another family, then all of the pain that I've been through is worth it.

[Narrator]

Cold case files is hosted by paula barros. It's produced by the law and crime network and written by eileen mcfarlane and emily g. Thompson. Our composer is blake maples. For a and e, our senior producer is john thrasher and our supervising producer is mckamey lynn. Our executive producers are jesse katz, maite cueva and peter tarshis. This podcast is based on ae's emmy winning tv series, cold case files. For more cold case files, visit aetv.com.

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