REOPENED: Unicorns and Alligators

Summary

Cold Case Files: REOPENED – Unicorns and Alligators

Hosted by Paula Barros

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Introduction to the Case

In the gripping episode titled "REOPENED: Unicorns and Alligators," Cold Case Files delves into the haunting disappearance of two young girls from the Pacific Northwest: Rima Traxler and Kara Rudd. Spanning over a decade, this case intertwines forensic breakthroughs, relentless investigative efforts, and chilling confessions, painting a vivid picture of a predator lurking in the shadows.

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The Disappearance of Rima Traxler (1985)

May 15, 1985, marked a tragic turning point for the Traxler family in Longview, Washington. Eight-year-old Rima Traxler, beloved by her mother Dinelle, never returned home from school. Rima was described as a smart and independent girl, fond of unicorns and Barbies, which played a crucial role in her abduction.

At [00:54], the episode sets the stage:

Detective McDaniel: "Come 3:30 Rima didn't come home from school and that's she should have been home by three between 3:15 and 3:30. So I walked up to the school."

Rima's mother reported her missing promptly, and despite extensive searches and community efforts, she remained unfound. Rima's disappearance went cold, with her mother maintaining hope through public awareness campaigns, including billboards and birthday celebrations.

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A Decade Later: The Case of Kara Rudd (1996)

Fast forward ten years to November 1996, and another young girl, Kara Rudd, vanishes under eerily similar circumstances. At twelve years old, Kara was improving academically and was described as strong and resilient. However, her truancy issues marked a shift in her otherwise commendable behavior.

On the morning of November 21, Kara was last seen getting into a Pontiac Firebird driven by Joseph Condro, a recently evicted tenant from her home. [07:15] Detective McDaniel recounts:

"They were waiting around outside for school, at which time Joe Condro had pulled up in his 1982 Firebird. The two girls then conversed with Joe. At that time, Kara Rudd had got in the car with Joe."

Despite initial theories of a runaway scenario, inconsistencies led detectives to suspect foul play. Condro's history of violent behavior and a grudge against Kara's family made him a prime suspect.

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Investigative Breakthrough: Connecting the Dots

The investigation took a pivotal turn when Lieutenant Mike Parker discovered Kara's remains near Mount Solo. [15:01] Detective McDaniel describes the grim find:

"Inside the car was Kara's nearly naked body. Her torso had almost completely decomposed. The lower half of her body was intact."

Forensic analysis provided crucial evidence. Despite decomposition, DNA traces were recovered, linking Condro to Kara's murder. [16:50] Detective McDaniel emphasizes the significance:

"Very excited when I examined the One rectal swab that had been taken at autopsy. And I realized after doing microscopy that even though she had been out six weeks, that there was some sperm present on the swab."

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Joe Condro's Confession and the Rima Connection

Faced with overwhelming evidence for Kara, Condro sought a plea deal to avoid the death penalty. In exchange, he was willing to disclose the truth about Rima Traxler's disappearance. During his confession, [19:28] Detective McDaniel shares:

"I pulled up and she seen me and she approached the truck. I rolled my window down, she goes, hi, Joe. And I said, hi, I'm here to pick you up. The password is unicorn. Get in. She gets in my truck, bang, closes the door."

Condro detailed his modus operandi, exploiting the code word "unicorn" taught to Rima for safety. His confession outlined the brutal nature of his crimes, including:

"I intended to kill her. That's when I hit her in the side of the head in the temple area... I choked Reema and crushed her head with a rock."

Further chilling was Condro's lack of remorse:

"The example I can give you is like an alligator. They eat and they sink to the bottom of the river and digest their food for weeks and then they're ready to do it again. That's how I am."

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Unresolved Mysteries and Lingering Hope

Despite Condro's confession, the remains of Rima Traxler were never recovered. Searches led to a creek where Condro claimed to have disposed of her body yielded no evidence. Consequently, [24:26] Detective McDaniel reflects on the unresolved nature of Rima's case:

"There's no way in hell that you can get me to change the way I think about sex with younger people, there's just no way."

Condro's death in 2012 left many questions unanswered. Efforts to locate Rima continued, with a false lead in 1997 proving fruitless. Rima's mother, Dinelle, remains steadfast in her search, embodying the relentless pursuit for justice that defines cold case investigations.

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Conclusion

"REOPENED: Unicorns and Alligators" masterfully intertwines the harrowing stories of Rima Traxler and Kara Rudd, illustrating the profound impact of persistent investigation and forensic advancements. While Condro's crimes shed light on the dark patterns of a serial predator, the absence of Rima's remains underscores the enduring pain for families and the relentless quest for closure.

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Notable Quotes:

• Detective McDaniel (00:54):

  "Come 3:30 Rima didn't come home from school and that's she should have been home by three between 3:15 and 3:30. So I walked up to the school."

• Detective McDaniel (19:28):

  "I pulled up and she seen me and she approached the truck. I rolled my window down, she goes, hi, Joe. And I said, hi, I'm here to pick you up. The password is unicorn."

• Detective McDaniel (20:45):

  "The example I can give you is like an alligator. They eat and they sink to the bottom of the river and digest their food for weeks and then they're ready to do it again. That's how I am."

• Detective McDaniel (24:26):

  "There's no way in hell that you can get me to change the way I think about sex with younger people, there's just no way."

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About Cold Case Files:

Cold Case Files is a riveting podcast hosted by Paula Barros, produced by a dedicated team, and distributed by PodcastOne. The show delves into some of America's most challenging unsolved murders, highlighting the persistence of investigators and the evolving role of forensic technology in solving cold cases.

For more information and to explore similar cases, visit aetv.com or follow Brooke Giddings on Twitter and Instagram.

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Transcript

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[Detective McDaniel]

Come 3:30 Rima didn't come home from school and that's she should have been home by three between 3:15 and 3:30. So I walked up to the school.

[Jim Stonier]

And she wasn't at the school plane that was Sunell Reema's mother. She called the police and frantically searched for her missing daughter. All the places that we thought she.

[Detective McDaniel]

Might have been or gone to or people she knew that lived in the area and started looking for her and.

[Jim Stonier]

Couldn'T find her.

[Detective McDaniel]

I was just praying that she'd be found and come home.

[Jim Stonier]

Dinelle told the police that she didn't think Rima would have run away unless she was influenced by an older child. She also didn't think Rima would have gone with a stranger if they didn't know the code word, which was unicorn. Besides Rima and her mother, Rusty, Rima's stepfather, also knew the code word. A woman claimed to have seen Rima after school on a street close to the home of Rusty Traxler, where Rema and her mom had lived before Rusty and Denel split up. He denied any involvement in Rima's disappearance and the police weren't able to find any evidence that connected him. The police also investigated possible involvement by Rima's biological father in Alaska, but once again found no evidence. In June of 1985, the police published a thank you to the people who helped search for Rima and an announcement. Though they were no longer actively searching for the girl, the case would stay open until she was found. Rima's picture was on billboards, flyers and in the local paper weekly. People donated money to help pay for the printing costs and long distance phone calls. Dinelle didn't lose hope that her daughter would be found. She even celebrated Rima's birthday, which was on November 9. Everyone who attended the celebration got a cupcake with a candle so they could all make a wish for Rima's return. Sadly, those wishes didn't come true and the only lead in Rima's case would come in the form of another kidnapping. In November of 1996, 10 years after Rima had disappeared. Kara Rudd was 12 years old. During the previous school year, Rima Kara had some truancy issues at school, but she had really started to get serious about her education. She attended regularly and was improving her grades. Her family described her as a strong person who was independent, smart and resilient. She was about 4 foot 6 inches with blonde hair and blue eyes. On November 21, she arrived at school early, around 7:25 for breakfast. Her mother, Janet, had sole custody. Kara's father was in prison. A few people saw Kara before school started, but she told a friend that she wasn't going to be in class and she was seen getting into a Pontiac Firebird Kara's mom, Janet Lapre, waited at the bus stop for her daughter.

[Detective McDaniel]

What we were asking of her is just to be safe. It doesn't matter if they're your friend or if they're mom's friend or dad's friend. If they don't know the code word, don't go with them.

[Jim Stonier]

Janet called Kara's cousin, who was also her friend and classmate, to ask if she had seen Kara.

[Detective McDaniel]

My niece told me that Joseph Condro took her in the morning. And then my heart just dropped. I'm like, oh, my God.

[Jim Stonier]

Joe Condro had lived in the garage at Janet and Kara's home during the summer. He was down on his luck and needed a place to stay. Unfortunately, Janet had to ask Condro to leave the home. He had a violent temper. She said that he would get drunk and black out and sometimes even threaten the children. According to Janet, Condro blamed Kara for being forced to leave his rent free accommodations. And he wasn't very happy about it. Janet called the police, afraid of what Condro might do to her daughter. Kara's cousin told the police what happened that morning. This is officer Chuck Davis.

[Detective McDaniel]

They were waiting around outside for school, at which time Joe Condro had pulled up in his 1982 Firebird. The two girls then conversed with Joe. At that time, Kara Rudd had got in the car with Joe.

[Jim Stonier]

After a few minutes, Kara got back out of the car, and it drove off. She told her cousin that she wasn't going to school that day and that Condro was going to meet her at a nearby park. He promised to take Kara to the woods to spend the day. Officer Davis believed that it was likely that Kara didn't run away.

[Detective McDaniel]

I made a call to my supervisor and advised him that the circumstances of this were beyond a normal runaway. And in fact, I told him that I thought this could actually turn into a homicide.

[Jim Stonier]

Twelve hours after Kara's disappearance, Officer Davis brought Joe Condro in for questioning. He said that he had seen Kara earlier that morning, but didn't see her again. After he drove away, Davis noticed something about Condro that he thought was suspicious.

[Detective McDaniel]

I noticed that he had multiple scratches on both of his arms. And I asked him how those had happened, and he told me that those scratches were the result of him being locked out of his residence earlier that morning. And he had had to crawl through his window to get back into the house. And thus he'd scratched his arms.

[Jim Stonier]

The scratches alone weren't evidence enough to hold Condro, so he was released. A team was put together to help find out what had happened to Kara. Detectives Jim Duscha and Steve Rayholm were both on the team. Janet warned the detectives about Condro's violent behavior and grudge against her daughter. This is detective Dusha.

[Detective McDaniel]

She said that as far as she was concerned, Joe Condro was the one that took her daughter and he probably had killed her.

[Jim Stonier]

As each hour passed, the chances of finding Kara alive decreased. The detectives started by retracing Kara's steps on the day she disappeared. They hoped that mapping her movements could help them to determine possible locations she'd been taken. This is Detective Rayholm.

[Detective McDaniel]

We knew the time he was seen at Monticello Junior High with her, and we knew when he was seen in Kelso, Washington, applying for a job. So we knew that he only had about a two hour time period. So that helped us determine how far he could drive.

[Jim Stonier]

Six weeks after the team assembled, an acquaintance of Condro's was able to provide the detectives with information to narrow their search.

[Detective McDaniel]

We found an old roommate that had lived with Joe Condro that said Joe like to go up on Mount Solo. He described exactly the road up and how many turns to get to this one dead end road where Joe liked to take women up there. He liked to drink and he liked to do drugs up there because it was so isolated that nobody came up there.

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[Jim Stonier]

The detectives went to Mount Solo and searched the area. They discovered a clearing that seemed suspicious. Here's Detective Ducia again.

[Detective McDaniel]

As we were all standing there, we said this is a likely area where her body is. It had the mud that was found on his car. It had the grass that was found on his car. Everything fit into Place. From the description that his roommate gave.

[Jim Stonier]

Us, A rescue team was assembled to search Mount Solo for Kara. But the train made the search difficult. Here's detective Rayhum again.

[Detective McDaniel]

We have the cowlitz river to our east. We have the huge Columbia river to the south and west. And it was sort of the needle in the haystack. You know, if we got lucky, it was going to be very lucky. There were probably five or six different groups from different counties and explorer scouts, professional search and rescue people. And we had specific areas in west Longview that we wanted searched, and specifically Mount Solo.

[Jim Stonier]

About 50 people were part of the search team, and they searched all morning without finding anything useful. Early in the afternoon, one of the searchers, Lieutenant Mike Parker, saw something.

[Detective McDaniel]

We had covered quite an area, Started in behind myself, and then went quite a ways north of this location. And we were coming back, and I was looking down in a ravine and saw an old Volkswagen car body.

[Jim Stonier]

Parker made his way down to the car to see if there were any signs of Kara.

[Detective McDaniel]

When I got down to the car, I couldn't open the trunk lid, but I could look inside the main passenger portion of the car. And that's where I found a big black wad of material. So as I was lifting it up, out fell Kara's bra.

[Jim Stonier]

Inside the car was Kara's nearly naked body. Her torso had almost completely decomposed. The lower half of her body was intact. Here's detective Rayholm again.

[Detective McDaniel]

Because of the slope, because of the water runoff, the way her body had been placed underneath the vehicle, basically from the waist down, was preserved as if she had been in a refrigerator.

[Jim Stonier]

Kara's remains were sent to the crime lab. Forensic pathologist Larry Lumen was asked to examine the remains for evidence. The six weeks of exposure made a routine autopsy impossible. Here's Larry Lumen.

[Detective McDaniel]

Her head was largely skeletonized. Her neck organs had basically been removed by animals, which would preclude a diagnosis of strangulation, which you would suspect in something like this.

[Jim Stonier]

With only Kara's lower half to examine, Lumen focused on saving any bodily fluids that were present.

[Detective McDaniel]

In any case like this, As a matter of routine, we would take oral swabs, rectal swabs, vaginal swabs, looking for seminal material and ultimately DNA, which would be determined by some crime laboratory. And that was done in this case.

[Jim Stonier]

The swabs were sent to the DNA lab at San Diego's police department. Criminalist Patrick o' Donnell tested for traces of semen. Though the odds were slim, I got.

[Detective McDaniel]

Very excited when I examined the One rectal swab that had been taken at autopsy. And I realized after doing microscopy that even though she had been out six weeks, that there was was still some sperm present on the swab.

[Jim Stonier]

O' Donnell was able to form a DNA profile from the sample collected from Kara. He compared that profile to the DNA signature of Joe Condro. It was a match. O' Donnell shared his findings with prosecutor Jim Stonier.

[Detective McDaniel]

When I told them that I in fact had found sperm on a rectal swab and that the DNA analysis indicated that it was consistent with Joseph Condro, their suspect, his mouth was just wide open.

[Jim Stonier]

Stonier believed the DNA evidence would be extremely compelling in a trial.

[Detective McDaniel]

It gave scientific evidence of two things. One, that he was the perpetrator and also the seriousness of what he did. He had raped that young girl and we could prove that he had done it and we could prove that he had done it to her anally. And the power of that evidence in front of a jury is just overwhelming.

[Jim Stonier]

Jim Stoneier filed a capital murder charge against Joseph Condra, meaning he would be executed if convicted. In an attempt to avoid the death penalty, Condor's attorney approached the prosecutors about a possible deal. The information Condro was willing to trade for his life was why 8 year old Rima Traxler had disappeared and how Joe Condro had killed her. Detective Scott McDaniel was assigned to interview Joe Condron as part of the deal Condo's attorney made with the prosecutor. The purpose of the interview was for Condro to share the details of Rima Traxler's murder. Here's Detective McDaniel.

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I just, right off the bat, I.

[Detective McDaniel]

Said, well, Joe, you know why we're here and basically I just need you.

[Brooke Giddings]

To tell me what happened.

[Detective McDaniel]

And he told me the whole story.

[Jim Stonier]

Condro explained that he had once been a friend of Rusty Traxler, Rima's stepfather. Through that friendship, he had learned about the password unicorn that Rima had been taught to use when dealing with strangers. He used the password to gain Rima's trust. Here's a portion of the interview tape.

[Detective McDaniel]

I pulled up and she seen me and she approached the truck. I rolled my window down, she goes, hi, Joe. And I said, hi, I'm here to pick you up. The password is unicorn. Get in. She gets in my truck, bang, closes the door.

[Jim Stonier]

He then took Reema to a nearby creek to swim. Kondra told Rima her parents would meet them there, which was a complete lie.

[Detective McDaniel]

It was just a ploy to get her to take her clothes off. So I wouldn't have to take them off later. At that time, I intended to kill her. That's when I hit her in the side of the head in the temple, right here in the temple area. She was like looking at the river, you know, standing up. And I came up and I hit her in the side of the head. She fell down and knocked her out.

[Jim Stonier]

After he knocked her out, Condra said he choked Reema and crushed her head with a rock. Then he hid her body behind a.

[Detective McDaniel]

Log, picked up some ferns that were there, through the ferns on top of her and around by the log to camouflage the area.

[Jim Stonier]

Detective McDaniel asked Condro why he chose to rape and murder children. Condro didn't hesitate before he answered.

[Detective McDaniel]

The example I can give you is like an alligator. They eat and they sink to the bottom of the river and digest their food for weeks and then they're ready to do it again. That's how I am. I could wait another 10 years and I'd always want to do that again.

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Fourteen years after Rima went missing, and two months after Joe Condro made his statement, a search party was sent to the creek where Condro claimed to have left Rima's body. Unfortunately, they weren't able to find any evidence of Rima Traxler's remains. Even though they weren't able to find a body, the Cold Case detectives believed that they knew what happened to Rima. Joe Condro was sentenced to 51 years in prison and thought someday he might be eligible for parole, but his own words made it unlikely that it would ever be granted.

[Detective McDaniel]

There's no way in hell that you can get me to change the way I think about sex with younger people, there's just no way. I mean, to the day I die, that's what I prefer. I'm a sick mother.

[Jim Stonier]

Joseph Condro is a suspect in the disappearance of of at least five young girls in the Pacific Northwest. Detective McDaniel corresponded with him regularly in prison, hoping someday he would confess to the other killings. Condro hadn't confessed to anything when he died in prison in 2012 at the age of 52. Rima Traxler's remains were never found, and her mother, Dinelle, had trouble accepting her daughter's fate with without them. In 1997, she saw a picture of a homeless girl in Texas and thought that it was her daughter's face. Police investigated the lead, but it wasn't Rima Traxler. Dinelle continues to search Cold Case Files the podcast is hosted by Brooke giddings, produced by McKamey, Lynn and Steve Delamater. Our associate producer is Julie McGruder. Our executive producer is Ted Butler. Our music was created by Blake Maples. This podcast is distributed by Podcast one. The Cold Case Files TV series was produced by Curtis Productions and is hosted by Bill Curtis. You can find me Brooke Giddings on Twitter and rookthepodcaster on Instagram. I'm also active in the Facebook group Podcast for Justice. Check out more Cold case [e-mail] or learn more about cases like this one by visiting visiting the AE RealCrime [e-mail] RealCrime Pluto TV has all the shows.

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