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Latest news on trending sports cards, Pokemon, NFL and Major League Baseball Playoffs
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This industry is so big. Think about, like, the enormity of, like, just ebay. The amount of GMV transactional money is 20 billion plus. That's just one part of this industry.
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B
Both Drake May and Michael Penix beat my bills and Josh Allen. So their scans are up at the expense of my favorite player, which is Josh Allen. So it's like, I'm happy, but I'm sad. I mean, how many total scans? How many a week?
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A
Like, average on a weekend, we get a million. If you do the math on that, it's like a. A thousand scans a minute for 20 straight hours. That's pretty much what people do on LX.
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C
Welcome to the Trading Cards and Collectibles podcast on the Radcast Network. From chasing grails to calling bluffs and going inside the hobby, are you ready to collect? Let's get at it. Here is your host, Ryan Alford.
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B
What's up, guys? Welcome to Trading Cards and Collectibles. You got Ryan and Brian here. And, you know, I'm in studio, which most people say, hey, you got a cool studio. But you know what? Where I'm not, that's where Brian is. He's in a Major league baseball stadium, the Texas Rangers baseball stadium at that. Brian, look at, look at this. If you aren't watching this on YouTube, Spotify, or where you get video, you're missing it. Dude. That is mlb. Oh, Brian's. He goes, where should I do it? In a suite, baby.
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A
Dude, this is the only time they'd ever let me in a suite, though.
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B
You're usually on what? You're usually up in the. In the stands with a dog and a beer, you know?
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A
Yeah, my camera won't go that far where they put me usually.
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B
Come on, man. I don't believe that. No, that's cool, dude. Texas Ranger Stadium. How's the stadium?
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A
It's beautiful, man. If you're. If you haven't been here before, it's like, it's just awesome. I mean, if the stadium's awesome, as you saw behind me, but it's also the whole experience you get here. It's 15 minutes from the airport, and there's 15 restaurants and bars and two hotels, and it's just awesome. It's on Jerry's World campus, so you got the Rangers and the Cowboys, so it's a. It's a fun place to come to. And, you know, with the card shop opening up here, I'll be here like once or twice a month, so. So, yeah, starting to get some good friends down there. And Enjoying it.
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B
Texas tea. You know, you remember the Beverly Hillbillies, the Texas tea. That oil money, you can't hide that oil money. It's. It's flowing. But that's awesome, dude. And, you know, and that's what's great about this show, guys. Everybody listening. Look, Brian and I are normal guys like everybody else, but we get access and we're here to share access. You know, like, we get to rub shoulders. Brian gets, you know, in the stadium, in the suite, we're going to show that bring these things to life. So we're not in a basement doing things. We're also not billionaires, but we are here to give you the access that we're blessed to get access to. So it's fun. And, you know, Brian gets to mingle and watch his store come to life. Man, that's got. Yeah, that's cool. I mean, it's got your name on it. I, I think anybody listening is probably into trading cards. Whether it's sports or Pokemon or collectibles. The dream would be, oh, watching my own, you know, card store, collectible store. I mean, I don't know how you would want that. And then getting to do it. The freaking stadium, dude. Is that not awesome?
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A
Yeah, it's fun. I was walking through it yesterday with the, the construction team and, you know, kind of seeing the Ren renderings come to life and they had some great ideas and they're, they're collectors themselves. So they're pretty psyched about building this, the shop and you know, just the partnership with the Rangers and Panini is going to be super excited. They are super excited about the World Cup. There's nine matches down here in AT&T, so they're going to be doing a lot of stuff with us too. But all in all, it's just a cool experience and like, it's just better. It's. It's a great place for collectors. That's what we want it to be. I took some video. We'll kind of throw this on. You can tease it if you want.
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B
We'll show it. Brian's got videos if you're, if you're watching, which you should be. Hey, we love our listeners, but, you know, give us some love on, on YouTube or Spotify and, or Instagram. You get on LudX, you can get on the collectibles show or Ryan offered any of those. We show all behind the scenes stuff. But yeah, Brian's. We'll have some videos playing throughout this as we're talking about it. So if you're Listening, giving you a little FOMO that you got to bounce over and look at all the renderings. And then Brian's just real time footage of what it's like to build the lcs. And you know what, Brian? I mean, I'm go ahead and tease it myself, you know, I couldn't let you be the only one build a store, you know, so I'm. I might have a little something up my sleeve as well. It's news to come, but it will not be at the Texas Ranger Stadium. So I'm gonna have to really make the interior pop. I don't have that borrowed interest and amazing surroundings going with it. And so it's cool. Collectibles show is where you'll find all of the channels and learn more about what we're doing and ultimate. Hey, we want to hear from you. You do Case hitsollectibles Show. We want you to send in your favorite pulls of the week. And here's the difference. This isn't about just value. Hey, we want to see some $10,000 hits. Had a couple of those myself a few months back. But it's not just about the value. It's about what you're collecting, what means something to you. Share a story, share a video of you holding up the card that you hit last week that was your favorite player and you nailed it. So Case Hits at Collectibles show, send in those videos. I want to know the stories. We're going to bring them to life here on the show. We're going to do a segment each week once we get rolling and get some videos in where we share that on the show with us. We want to feature you on Collectibles Show. It's been a good week in sports. You got, I mean, it's a great time for sports. You know, if you listen, you're a sports fan. I mean, you've got World Series, you know, building to the World Series. You got Major league Baseball playoffs, you got college football, which is huge in the south where I am. And it's becoming more nationwide, I think. It's not just the, the Southeast Conference anymore or the acc. It's national. And then you got NFL, you've got, I don't know, golf, playoff. I mean, it's a great time to be a sports fan.
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A
Yeah, it is. I mean, it, it's only like baseball for sure is. But then my Bears won. I mean, it's a, it's been a great game.
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B
I was. And look, I've got a lot of, let's just say I've got a lot of vested in both the quarterbacks, so I just wanted both quarterbacks to play well, which they did. And Caleb is coming along.
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A
Yeah, I mean he, you know, there's, there's. He's young and there's a lot of pressure on these young quarterbacks. And you know, when one does it extremely well, it makes the other ones look bad. But if you put him in like where he. His first games, how many games he's played and his stats and what he's doing, I mean he's doing everything he needs to be doing and now he's learn a whole new offense and new players and whatnot. So. Yeah, I'm happy with it. The Bears have won three in a row, which I don't even know last time they did that. I don't know, long time ago. So.
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B
Yeah, exactly. And then you've got, you know, all the, the rookie quarterbacks from last year, other than McCarthy, who's been hurt, are playing pretty damn well. I mean, it's sort of, you know, is a good building point to trending players of the week on the Ludex app. Who's, you know, who's trending up and at the top of that list, I'm gonna let Brian talk about it, but. Or littered on the list is a couple of those big rookies from last year. Brian, what we got with the scans this week and who's looking who's trending?
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A
Yeah, so the, like you said, the main guy, the guy that's up the most is drake may. His PSA 10 silver prism. Traded 500 bucks in late September, traded $800 last week. He is number one in trending players on the Ludo app. Number two we have. Baker Mayfield continues to go up. I mean, he just. That dude's a baller, man. Yeah, I love that guy. He's mature. Yeah, he's up 56%. And then finally Michael Penix Jr. Is, you know, his cards are finally starting to go up a bit. They're up about just under 20% in the week. Yeah. So those are the three big ones. But like you said, you know, quarterbacks always rule, you know. But like as you can see, the.
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B
Here's the thing. So both, I'm both excited because I own a lot of these quarterbacks from last year because it, it mingled with where the boys and I got back in. So we're buying all that 24. So we got a ton of those. But it also gives me the oh, because both Drake May and Michael Pinnicks Beat my Bills and Josh Allen. So their. Their scans are up because. At the expense of my favorite player, which is Josh Allen. So it's like I'm happy, but I'm sad.
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A
Yeah, we're struggling a little bit. They look human.
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B
Yeah, they do look human. I don't know. I can't quite put my finger on exactly what it is, but they should have beat the Falcon. I mean, they. They shouldn't be losing the Falcons and the Patriots and no offense. I think both teams are playing better. But the Bills, those should be wins. Those are W's. Those are W's. In the preseason, you know, when you're looking at the calendar, you're going, okay, we're gonna be. You're gonna win those. And then there's enough question marks to where you got to get those, but we'll see. Trevor Lawrence came back down to earth, my boy. You know, they got. They got to beat Seattle at home, but Seattle's kind of manhandled them. It was not.
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A
Yeah, I mean, Seattle's a good football team, Darnold. They got the weapons on the receivers. I mean, they're. They're a good football team.
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B
I know, but you gotta defend home turf versus sort of what I would consider maybe equal competition. You know, they come into your space and then they just. They sacked the hell. And Ferris Lawrence did not look good. He's looked a lot better this year. He's had signs. But that defense ate him up, ate Jacksonville's lunch. So his cards probably be doing the old teeter totter like they seem to always do. But I don't really care. They're in the PC no matter what.
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A
Yeah, we could probably look and see, like, who's the down the most in a week.
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B
I know we probably should. So we give you the forewarning. If you're out there and you're collecting these guys, I'll tell you who, not who, to who, to maybe let go. Unless they're like PC, you know, and that's what I always would have died on this show. Like Trevor Lawrence, he could go down to 10 cents. And I'm gonna have 4,000, not 39,000, but maybe 4,000 of his cards either way, because I got all my Clemson guys. But, you know, it. It. There is the investment side, and that's the. That's the balance of everything in the hobby, Brian. You know, it's like the. Everybody's in it, I think, that are really in it. You've got both sides. Like, hey, you're trying to do a Little investing and then, hey, who's your favorite player? So I hope I, I encourage people to never lose sight of that because sometimes I feel like at least going to these card shows, it feels like it's all transactional.
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A
Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, I think you have to do a little bit of both. Right. Or if it's really just about transactional, then, you know, that's a business and you know, that's my son flipping, trying to make money. But really for me it's, you got to enjoy what you're collecting, why you're collecting it. And, and speaking of that, I have a show and tell for the week.
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B
Yes.
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A
This one just came back from ebay. Authentics and it is. I don't know if you'll be able to see it. Well, it's a Babe Ruth.
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B
Oh, wow.
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A
Of out of 25.
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B
Yes.
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A
Game used Game used jersey.
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B
Wow, that's cool.
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A
And again, he's not going to shoot up any, any clubs. He's not going to get arrested. He's not going to beat his wife. He's. He's pretty much, he's pretty much done doing that stuff.
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B
Yeah, he doesn't have those things that will. That should send the market down other than maybe just the entire market. If it get tree trends. Is the market trend. I guess. And, and speaking of that, it's funny you bring that up. We had, we had a Pokemon. What was his username? Bella. Jim Mint Pokemon. Great guy, super knowledgeable. He was on Tuesday's episode. So if you're listening here on Friday, go back and listen to that. He made this comment which was sort of funny. He's like, here's the, here's why Pokemon's a better investment. He said charizard never gets hurt. He never or never does any, you know, gets arrested. He's always, you know, stable, you know, I mean, you know, his popularity changes, but it's not because of his own behavior now.
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A
He's just a cool, cool customer. Saying that every time you see Charizard, he's doing the same stuff.
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B
Yeah. Pikachu. Pikachu is not gonna get thrown in jail and hurt his pr.
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A
No, no, no.
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B
If he does, okay, we're, we're in the end times or something. I don't even know what he's walking around. But yeah, it is interesting. He's like, yeah, you don't have those fluctuations based on performance on the field. So I was like, that's an interesting observation.
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A
But it's also interesting because at the same at the. You turn that upside down and you're like, why are Pikachu's going up? What did he do to you know, pure speculation. Talking about just pure, like. Yeah, investing in speculation. That is, that is it to the T. That's true.
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B
Every argument has a reverse side but Very knowledgeable guy, Jim. Mint Pokemon. Take a listen to that and look, I'm the last guy that you'd think you go, that's not a Pokemon guy. Like big sports guy, you know, big physique. I do not look like a Pokemon guy. I'm not. I wouldn't even call myself a Pokemon guy. I just like appreciate the art and play and appreciate the collectibility and it's a fun thing with the kids who aren't also kind of Pokemon kids, you know, they're you know, sports playing, you know, red blooded American kids. But it's fun with the art and it's fun, it's a fun open because you can sort of appreciate the art. And I think it's, it's a manageable kind of thing to collect. Doesn't have the 400. I think we've talked about this 450 parallels. You know, it's like you got different sets and things, but it's a little more digestible.
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A
Yeah, agreed. I mean it's like we call it, you know, you and I talk about it the gateway drug.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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A
That's where people get in. But you know, I, I have a few Pokemon cards but nothing like I've never really collected it like aggressively.
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B
I would say we have about 5,000 value. Not, I'm not talking about like commons. We probably, we, we give the commons away to my nephews and other kids, but we got building quite a few. They're fun easy rip. Like that's, that's why we have so many too. It's like, it's a fun easy rip. They're you know, five to seven dollars a pack instead of $50 a pack. So if we're just hanging out, it's a. Watching football. Pokemon's an easy thing to rip and go, oh, hey, got this, got that. But speaking of sports on tv, we've got the visual up and we'll let Brian talk a little bit. What's happening with our playoffs with our scans. We had followed the exact order of the playoffs last week. I think we have some changes potentially this week, Brian, don't we?
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A
Yeah, yeah. This is, I wouldn't, I don't think it's surprising. But what we have is we have LA and the brewers, LA 36, 000 scans the brewers, 22,000. The other side, the Yankees advanced over the Blue Jays. And so in our other side, we have Seattle advanced and the Yankees. And The Yankees are 18,000 scans above the. The Meredith. But it's going to be really interesting because you're going to talk about the first and second largest cities coming up into the finals, which is la, New York, and that's going to be super interesting because the Yankees right now are scanned a little more than about 5,000 more than the. Or what is that? 14. 14, 000 more than the Dodgers. But the Dodgers, if they keep winning.
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B
Yes, I think it'll close, too. Dodgers look good. I mean, not a surprise.
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A
Yeah. And the thing is though, how they're winning is not what people thought. I mean, Ohtani, his. I think his first single was a home run.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I think that was his only hit. He's like one for like 28.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And it's their pitching that's absolutely dominating.
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B
Yeah. It's not been an offensive explosion, like.
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A
No.
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B
But anytime they need it, Freddie Freeman's gonna come around. Yeah. Mr. Clutch.
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A
Yeah, they're clutch. I mean, I hope these seems. I hope that we get series, you know, that the. The guys O2 come back and. And give it a good series because I enjoy watching it. But, you know, Seattle's been hot for two months in LA with the pitchings, and it's gonna be tough to come back against them, but you never know.
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B
So get your scans in and get your guesses in for total number of scans here. You know, you can do some math here on the board here with just these teams. So then imagine it across the whole gamut. So get those guesses in. We've got the Ludox case giveaway, and we'd love to see someone win that case. And hey, think high. That's all. Go high. Lots of scans. I mean, how many total scans do you have? I don't know how. If you have that data, you probably have averages at least, Brian. I mean, it's how many a week, like average.
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A
I mean, on a weekend we get a million. And so if you do the math on that, and I don't want to really, I don't want to do in my head, but it's. It's like a thousand scans a minute for 20 straight hours. That's pretty much what people do on Ludx.
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B
I mean, it's crazy. Like, I know and have, you know, like, no one's been more. And even before Brian And I met a bigger cheerleader of ludx than me being the best scanning app in the App Store. But it still blows my mind like the volume of how many freaking people are just scanning cards, getting them in their digital collection repository and then getting either values or linking them back to ebay or whatever they're doing. It's incredible.
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A
Yeah, this industry is so big. I mean, think about like the enormity of like just eBay, $4 billion in GMV or whatever they're going to do for, you know, just. And it takes two and a half minutes to put a card on. And then you talk about all the shows and LCS's and, and I mean the amount of GMV transactional money is, you know, 20 billion plus, which like that's just one part of this industry, secondary sales that doesn't include, you know, what tops and fanatics they're doing printing cards and you know, wax and you know, zion cases and Ludox's app and all that stuff. Like it's, it's a massive, massive industry and, and it's gonna be exciting to be able to, to be the tech hub, to watch, you know, be the center of it and watch this thing grow where we can, instead of having it segmented out through the industry, you know, having a few places that people can kind of gravitate to and then gravitate, gravitate from, to go to other sites and the ecosystem.
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B
So yeah, I want you to talk about a visit you've made here while on that trip here shortly. I do want to bring up as related to that comment. If you go to ebay, check out the RAD Collective. It's. I can't, Brian. This is how I know like, you know, we move a lot of cards thanks to the Linux app and we move, you know, some secondary wax that we get and we put it on there. And Brian, I mean the moment If I put 50 boxes on there, 40 of them are gone in two days. Like, you know, we price it right, but we're not giving it away. And just the volume of transactions that happen. Like I see it like my phone starts dinging, like 10 minutes extra throwing stuff on there. It's. The demand is high.
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A
Yeah, I mean that's the things like when you look at marketplaces and obviously I, I've known pretty well trading derivatives for 25 years, but it's about trust, volume and velocity. And that's why like a lot of these other companies coming in to try to compete with ebay and I'm Saying like smaller companies and they're like, hey, we're gonna give you, it's no commission or it's 1% or whatever it is, it's fine. But that card would have transacted 10 times on eBay before I could even get it off. One sale on any other marketplace. And then at that point they're left with stale data. There's, those cards are sold somewhere else. And now you go to their site and you're like, oh, I'm gonna buy that card. Like, oh, that guy hasn't signed on in three months. Like, it's just, it's just really difficult. I think the vulnerability of ebay is, is tech.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And then, you know, can a Walmart come in and do something? Can a fanatics come in? Yeah, of course, I mean, of course. But it's a big enough industry. I don't know if like, if ebay gets totally crushed or it just grows the whole pie. But you know, I was thinking interesting, like having partnerships with these different companies. Ebay wants the buyers, so ebay will give, will give an affiliate. If you, if you send buyers over to them, they'll give you an affiliate percent of the gmv. Walmart wants sellers. Walmart has buyers. They got hundreds of millions of buyers.
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B
That's why you and I gotta talk about Walmart. I gotta give their own Walmart.
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A
Yeah, yeah. I mean, and so you know, they're, they're, they're gonna go at this differently but you know, well, no one has more money than Walmart, so we'll see what happens. But you know, interesting stuff.
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B
It is interesting thought. And I mean that's my only knock on ebay is like I, I agree with you. Like you can't fight the behemoth. And I'd rather turn stuff over faster with less margin. The fees are high. It's, it is what it is. They're the leader. I mean they just, it's, it's justified on some level. But I don't have to love it at all times. But the, you know, and they're very seller friendly. I mean, I me, excuse me, buyer friendly. It's very, I mean it's all catered to the buyer. Yeah. It's like the buyer can do no wrong. And that's a little. No, as a, you know, I'm a top seller. Like we have the highest marks there, like 99.9 feedback. Like everything you could do right is a seller. And we get to just take it sometimes from the buyers that, you know, the littlest thing Or. Or nothing. You know, it's very buyer friendly and, you know, they can do that now, but it's. I think there is some vulnerability if someone can figure out how to take care of both.
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A
Yeah, I agree. I think it's.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I mean, it's like when you're a market leader like that, you can do it.
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B
You can do.
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A
Can do what you want to do, you know, so. Yeah, we'll see how they manage it though. I mean, obviously there's, you know.
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B
No, they're great. I mean, overall, I mean, this is kind of like, you know, 90% great. Love it. It's an opportunity for us to move product. We appreciate them, we've got relationships with them. But if we could just tighten up that 10% or actually that 13%, the. The. The seller fee. I mean, come on, man. Can I get that? It's either be tears for that, like 13, 10, 7, something, you know, like. But no, that flat cost. That's why I gotta talk with my friends at Walmart through my friend Brian. I get a. Get some. Get some movement there, but. Very cool. What else? Hey, you're, you know, teased it a little bit. You had a little visit with. I mean, maybe people have heard of this company. I'm not sure, but talk about that.
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A
So. Yeah. So yesterday, you know, in Dallas, you got headquarters of Panini, you got Beckett. And obviously fanatics has places all over, but one of their biggest printing facilities is down here. So I got, you know, a escorted look into all the printers and what they do and you know, the jerseys they're cutting up and. And the 101s and the new designs and the new, new security stuff they're throwing. You know, they're very serious about security and keeping this integrity of this market. So they're just always innovating and they try hard, but man, I'm telling you, dude, I was like, holy crap. Like, I don't even know how many sheets I saw but pallets of, you know, uncut sheets. But it's insane, man. And I. I kind of knew that was like that, but like, seeing it live and getting explained to me was. Was awesome. So I want to thank my. My friend Eric Myers, head of innovation for Fanatics, for. For kindly guiding me around for an hour or two. It was. It was a great experience. And I. I asked if I could film and they said no, but, you know, so I would put it on here if I could, but I can't, so I won't.
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B
They're getting all the licenses, so, you know, They're. You're gonna see some changes. And I've always wondered this. I think I know the answer, but I'm gonna ask it to you anyway. Brian, why not have an individual code for every card made so that, you know, whatever. Like, why not have a barcode or a tiny little, like an identifier so that there's not this, you know, like, yeah, you still need to get it graded. Doesn't mean that having that has it. But, like, you know, how the. What's the movement of any one individual card? There a reason that they don't do that? Because other than a lot of money is made on the same cards over and over and over again, they don't want to track it.
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A
Yeah. Or, I mean, I think Honestly it's because 99 of the cars that they print are worth nothing, right?
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B
Yeah.
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A
And so if they're printing it for nothing and it's worth nothing, they're okay. All of a sudden, if they do stuff like that and put a chip or QR code in there in the printing process, that's going to slow things down, you know, getting cards out. But also they're gonna. The printers are gonna charge more and.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And now you're. Now you're paying a nickel for a card that's with zero. And you do that a billion times. And, you know, but I do think they're gonna do stuff with that on the numbered cards. For sure. I think you'll see that. And for lx, like, you know, they're like, oh, that's not good for you. Right. Lx, like, you know, that's not good for you guys, identify cards. But if we put a QR code and they get cards, everyone's gonna know what they have. And I said, great, go. Like, thank you. Help us do that. Yeah, I'll worry about the trillion cards that were printed up to this day.
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B
Yeah. Believe me, there's enough history there for you, honey.
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A
I'm like, I'm. I'm good, man. Like, yeah, yeah, I'm good. You guys, whatever you do, I think that's a great idea. But, like, of the, you know, 150,000 cards printed in different cards printed this year. Yeah, I'm okay.
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B
No, you're. You're. You're fine. There's gonna be a need for Ludox for the foreseeable hundred years and probably longer. The. I'm imagining you at that print place. It's seeing, like, 101s, like, go through the print press, and, like, you're sitting there going you know like you're fascinated by maybe the whole process was. Here's what I was curious of. I should know this but is it a one phase print or the. Are there multiple phases to kind of get the, the parallels and those kind of variations?
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A
Yeah, many layers. Many layers, Yeah.
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B
I mean like going from one machine to the next kind of feeding through.
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A
There's a whole film of you know, there's a roll of whatever that parallel is and they just you know sh. Put that on, you know, X number of cards and then they move it to somewhere else. And I mean the one thing. Yeah, I mean it's, it's, it's insane. The one thing that was pretty funny is like they have like this cage where all the autos are so, you know, so Tom Brady has a bunch, he's like Tom Brady has these. And then there's like this like naughty cage where it's like these guys haven't signed in like six months.
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B
Is that the redemption cage? Like when you get the redemption card it's from the naughty box.
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A
There's some redemption. Yeah, exactly. The redemption. It ends up in the redemption. The guy like if you can't, you can't make a guy sign. But like it's, it's pretty funny how they're like, they're like in the corner. But, but I think how, how they came about is that fanatics is says now if we don't get your redemption and I think it's within a year or nine months that you get a card at 2x value over what that card is worth. That's what they're going to do. Which I think is great because you know you can't rely on the athletes to you know, to sign stuff.
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B
Yeah, here's my one quick story on that. So back in the hobby with the boys we're in it. The hottest thing in going is those rookie quarterbacks that we talked about earlier. And this is pretty early on. This is, this is probably November of last year. December, December. Right in the, you know, the rose rookie, the heat of the, the value of those rookie quarterbacks and we get a redemption card For Michael Penix Jr auto numbered and right when that. If we had had that card in hand it's probably a 8 or 900 card easy. And we proceeded to wait six months for that redemption to come back and when we got it back it was worth 180. So it's like that's a big deal. That's a big jump and it's like I know that it is what it is the game, it's the, you know, it. You know, no one intended that to happen to us, but as a collector, where that probably be would have been one we would maybe trade in, sell up for either stuff for our PC or to, you know, reinvest in something. I mean, that's kind of a bummer.
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A
Yeah. And I think there's susceptibility also with the grading companies and the same, you know, same tree, different branch. You know, we were talking about people going up 20%, 70% in a week. And, you know, like you said, it's like, what do you do? You can't do anything. And then it's also. You send it away to get graded and you're like, I want to sell this thing yesterday. And you get it back in three, four months.
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B
Oh, got one of those stories too, man. Josh Allen Gold waited supposed to be fairly fast and ended up being like freaking 60 days or something. And easily lost grand. You know, it was. It was from valuation and. Yeah, same thing. It's like. And I. Good things take time. I get it. And I don't know. I don't know. There's a solution, per se. PSA turns, you know, has different var, you know, levels that you can buy for speed and all that, but you don't ever know. And I guess. But I will say this, sometimes there has been a couple instances, if I'm being honest, where maybe whatever it was, it was, they had an uptick, you know, during that time. So it came, it became almost like a safety deposit box sent away to where you can't get it, you know, and it came back and I'm like, hey, it went up like 100 bucks.
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A
There you go. Yeah, there's always the other side of it, too. But, like, this doesn't seem like it evens out.
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B
No, it doesn't. What's. What's going on the rest of the trip there in Texas? Brian?
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A
Just gonna do some, you know, another walk through the shop today and then just wrapping up with a few meetings here at the stadium and. And then heading back to Chicago for the weekend.
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B
Chi Town. Yeah. Do people still call it that?
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A
I call it that. Yeah, you can call it Chi Town. They call it Chirac. You know.
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B
Jim Rome got it. Chi always said, Chi Town, right?
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A
Yeah, it's a great time of the year. It's like 70 degrees and sunny every day, so until it's not. But there's a great month.
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B
Yeah, we're in the middle of that as well. In an old South Kakalaki South Carolina Any other thoughts today? Anything else we need to cover? Brian?
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A
No, I think I'm good. I know that you, you got a bunch of stuff going on and you're a busy man. So it's a, you're, you're such a cool customer and, but even there's a few times we talked and you know, you're in it, man. You're in it.
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B
I'm in it. I am, yes. I'm moving the way it worked out, moving home and business. And it was not planned. Just both the deals kind of landed there. It's like in a three week period and I'm a, give me, throw me another ball in. I'm a juggler, man, juggle. But I'm, I'm running out of limbs a little bit. So it's all good. We're all human. We all got going. It's all positive things. So it's not negative things. It's more, I think it's more. I do a big good job of compartmentalizing and my compartments are like getting full and so I know if you saw our studio, our studios looks, you guys see the, you know what looks pretty good, my normal and you might even hear a little bit of an echo on today's episode because some of our buildup around us is in dis. Disrepair, disruption, whatever you want to call it is. We'll be moving studios so it might be as early as next week moving into the new space that's gonna be excited to bring some stuff to life. So we'll, we'll leave that there. Have some more news on that and we appreciate everyone for listening and any final thoughts? Brian?
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A
I'm good. My man.
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B
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C
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