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Collecting Keys - Real Estate Investing Podcast
Hosted by Mike DeHaan · EN
In the 'Collecting Keys - Real Estate Investing Podcast,' seasoned Real Estate experts Mike DeHaan and Dan Austin discuss how to use Real Estate to create Massive Income not just Passive Income.
Real estate doesn't have to be a get-rich slow game, and by bringing over 500 successful deals worth of experience in three years, their episodes unpack the art of real estate investing, wholesaling, house flipping, and transforming properties into profitable rentals.
Listen as they share uncensored insights and strategies, from compelling guest interviews revealing personal journeys and finding off-market deals to in-depth deal analyses and the latest market trends.
Whether you're taking your first investment step or scaling up your portfolio, embark on your investment journey with the Collecting Keys podcast - where every episode unlocks a door that brings you one step closer to financial freedom so you can finally live the life of your dreams.
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EP 500 - Wins, Losses, and Lessons from Five Years of Collecting Keys
1w ago00:54:31Tap to summarizeWhat did you think of todays show??Five hundred episodes. Zero missed releases since 2021. In this milestone episode, Mike, Dan, and Dylan go back to the beginning: the seller who got abducted from a closing, the Spokane duplex that nearly broke their partnership, the hire that changed everything, and the disaster deals still bleeding money today. Plus why they stopped chasing passive income, what actually built the business, and the mindset shift that reshaped how they define success. If you've been here since day one, this one's for you.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Why episode 500 almost ended the show (00:13)The seller who got abducted from a closing (09:32)The disaster duplex that nearly broke them (14:57)Losing $500K in the bank in 30 days (20:48)The first hire that changed everything (22:41)One cold call that became 13 units (26:42)Why making $100K is easy and $1M is hard (30:23)Why the wrong partners cost them years (32:21)The 8-unit money pit still bleeding cash (34:56)The third partner that soured everything (38:49)Passive, massive, and recurring income (44:35)Why holding cash beats chasing returns (48:47)Sign up to join the FREE Scale Community! https://collectingkeys.com/Want deeper breakdowns like this every week? Subscribe to the Collecting Keys newsletter! https://collectingkeys.com/newsletter/Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)
Transcribe →EP 499 - Petty Lawsuits, Fake Buyers, and a $120K Retrade
2w ago00:38:36Tap to summarizeWhat did you think of todays show??You call them junk fees. The lender calls them the cost of staying in business. In this episode, we break down why almost every money decision, yours included, runs on how you feel instead of what the numbers actually say. From the real reason closing costs hit 10%, to a deed theft that cost a title company six figures, to the phantom wealth on display in Maui and the credit apps built to make you feel richer than you are.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Why America suddenly cares about soccer (01:50)Why Europe's old homes turn deadly in heat (05:53)What flipping houses looks like overseas (09:29)Why real estate costs 10% just to transact (12:45)The truth about "junk fees" from the lender's side (14:48)The deed theft that cost a title company six figures (16:57)Fighting back with PettyLawsuit.com (19:18)Wholesalers, fake buyers, and rigged bidding wars (21:10)Is retrading a deal down $120K unethical? (23:52)Phantom wealth and the new-money flex (26:50)Why people spend on feelings, not data (29:11)How credit apps trick you into feeling rich (34:43)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_deals/This episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)
Transcribe →EP 498 - The Benefits of Boring Assets, is Bitcoin Dead?, and The Newest Biz for Major Cashflow w/ Shane Schrader
3w ago00:40:43Tap to summarizeWhat did you think of todays show??While everyone chases the next AI tool or crypto moonshot, Shane Schrader is quietly building wealth out of concrete boxes and plastic totes. In this episode, we break down the self-storage development most people said couldn't pencil, the $6-a-tote arbitrage hiding inside a single storage unit, and why preparation and relationships beat the marketing grind you've been told to run. Plus Dylan's read on Bitcoin, the debt cycle, and why boring hard assets win the next decade.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Dylan's Bitcoin bet with Scott Trench and Jay Scott (1:41)What actually moves Bitcoin to $100K (4:41)Investing with logic vs gambling on emotion (7:14)Meet Shane: lineman to wholesaler to developer (8:32)The self-storage play nobody's quietly winning (11:25)The $700K lot he keeps turning down (19:27)The tote business: $6 arbitrage in a 10x20 unit (25:15)Building a tote market that doesn't exist yet (27:21)Why your network beats marketing every time (31:16)Dylan's macro thesis: debt, inflation, hard assets (36:04)The 1970s inflation playbook won't work now (36:38)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)
Transcribe →EP 497 - Why there's a lot more Fraud in your Real Estate deals w/ Eric Rubin
4w ago00:49:31Tap to summarizeWhat did you think of todays show??Most of what sounds like a smart money move is either a scam or a bad bet. In this episode, Atlanta commercial broker Eric Rubin joins Mike, Dan, and Dylan to break down the lending fraud wave, the borrower they caught indicted the morning of the wire, why a winning trade doesn't mean you bet smart, and why your high-paying job beats the side hustle. Plus micro salons, grave plots, and the red flags that should make you walk.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Flipping grave plots and the cremation side hustle (00:48)Why hype investing is still just gambling (07:18)Why a winning trade doesn't mean you bet smart (11:02)Why leaving your job for a side hustle usually fails (12:50)Why your high-paying job beats the hustle anyway (13:54)Buying the building your business operates in (15:40)Micro salons: shipping containers as commercial real estate (17:15)Old strip malls versus the modern destination tenant (19:50)The lending fraud wave hitting the whole industry (31:45)The borrower indicted for fraud the morning of the wire (32:24)Red flags: religion, integrity names, and straight shooters (36:44)Ponzi schemes, MLMs, and the slutty vegan bankruptcy (38:43)Connect with Eric Rubin:https://www.instagram.com/ericbrubinFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)
Transcribe →EP 496 - Why SpaceX and Bitcoin Hype Pays Everyone But You
Jun 1600:47:09Tap to summarizeWhat did you think of todays show??Kiavi just sold for $717 million, SpaceX is about to IPO at a $1.77 trillion valuation, and the through-line is the same: the people selling deals get paid whether you win or lose. In this episode, Mike, Dan, and Dylan break down why lenders are built to be flipped, why every standard metric on the SpaceX IPO makes zero sense, how AI data centers actually help your town, and why bigger funds quietly hand you worse returns. The lesson: before you invest, follow the incentives.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Kiavi sells to Figure for $717 million (04:38)Why lenders are built to be sold, not held (06:22)The fraud borrower with six loans (16:40)Why the SpaceX IPO breaks every metric (18:12)Mike bets SpaceX drops below $135 (23:16)Is Bitcoin just the next hype trade? (23:32)CPI games and the rigged inflation math (27:32)Why AI data centers are a nothing sandwich (28:50)A decade of inflation until 2030 (29:14)America: the best house in a bad neighborhood (38:07)Why bigger funds quietly punish you (42:59)Follow the incentives before you invest (45:15)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)
Transcribe →EP 495 - Operate Like a Recession Is Coming (Even When You're Winning) w/ Aaron Bihl
Jun 900:41:49Tap to summarizeWhat did you think of todays show??Pace Morby blocked Aaron Bihl for explaining the Morby Method out loud. In this episode, Aaron fills in for Mike while he and Dan break down the contradictions piling up around creative finance's loudest salesman: personal guarantees that aren't real, the 50-year mortgage Pace now calls a deal he hates, and the sub-two horror stories that haunt wholesalers forever. Plus why the only thing that survives a weird economy is buying real equity, not the hype someone's selling you.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Why Aaron got blocked by Pace Morby (01:17)The Brandon Turner call that backfired (02:24)Pace's personal guarantees that aren't real (04:47)Why the Morby Method invites mortgage fraud (06:52)Sub-two insurance tricks that fall apart (08:00)Sub-two horror stories that haunt wholesalers (10:25)The 50-year mortgage Pace now regrets (15:34)Why sound operators survive a weird economy (18:46)AI, data centers, and the anti-AI crowd (22:02)SpaceX is the new Bitcoin (31:12)Day traders, peptides, and the next get-rich-quick (35:22)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)
Transcribe →EP 494 - Why You're Already Living the Life You Want
Jun 100:40:39Tap to summarizeWhat did you think of todays show??Most people chase money for stuff they don't actually want. In this episode, Mike, Dan, and Dylan break down the lies about luxury, real estate, and the stock market that keep people stuck. Why your $1,000-a-night hotel doesn't make you happier. Why MDs keep buying Cincinnati 4-plexes at $600K. Why the S&P 500 is really the S&P 7 propped up by 401k passive bids. The guys close with some Robinhood "what if" nostalgia.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)The luxury trap and why most wealth purchases don't make you happy (00:30)Why you're already doing 95% of what you actually want (04:22)Dylan's Audi and the car dealership financing game (09:51)Mike's orange jumpsuit pants in eviction court (12:38)Why MDs keep buying overpriced Cincinnati 4-plexes (19:01)The Orange Blossom conflict-of-interest joke (22:54)Is index fund investing dead? Why your S&P 500 is really the S&P 7 (27:50)Polymarket and Elon Musk tweets as a trading instrument (31:01)Why your index fund's biggest forced buyer is your retirement account (32:01)Millennial mobility vs baby boomer housing demand (33:22)Robinhood nostalgia and the Micron "what if" trade (37:04)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)
Transcribe →EP 493 - How AI is replacing Appraisers, Real Estate Agents, and Insurance, sooner than you think
May 2600:43:12Tap to summarizeWhat did you think of todays show??The appraisal is dying. Big lenders are building their own AI valuations, one broker rebuilt his entire MLS in a single weekend, and the people whose whole job was telling you what a house is worth are about to be gone. In this episode, we break down which real estate middlemen AI is about to wipe out, why Cincinnati could be the next market lenders blacklist, and why filing an insurance claim almost never pays off.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Revisiting the Brandon Turner and Pace Morby guru fallout (00:08)The Cincinnati appraisal mess lenders are watching (06:21)The fraud network that quietly costs investors money (07:42)Why appraisers are about to be eliminated (09:49)How AI could erase real estate agents and the MLS (14:37)The new wholesale disclosure laws and the loophole (17:33)Finding the local lender who thinks he is winning (20:16)Why filing an insurance claim rarely pays off (22:04)Why your insurance premium doubles after one claim (24:17)Bitcoin's comeback and Iran's reserve play (31:01)The K-shaped recession and Bezos's tax pitch (34:23)Why this generation can't figure anything out (37:45)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)
Transcribe →EP 491 - Why Brandon Turner's Investors Lost 100% (And What It Means For You)
May 1200:42:26Tap to summarizeWhat did you think of todays show??Before you write a six-figure check into a syndication, listen to this episode. Brandon Turner's Class B investors just lost 100 percent of their money on a single Houston deal. We break down who you can actually trust with your money: the spokesperson-versus-operator filter, the cash floor that protects you, why oversharing tanks your loan, and what the Buffett yardstick at 230 percent is signaling about the market.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)The Brandon Turner fund just wiped out Class B investors (07:18)Why losing 100 percent in real estate syndications is more common than you think (09:20)The downside math nobody pitching syndications wants to show you (11:01)The cash floor before any swing investment (15:08)Spokesperson vs operator: how to filter the founder you trust (17:29)Eviction speeds and rent-increase rules: Ohio vs Washington (19:29)The Cincinnati hypothetical: would you take a $100K spread with a year of negative cash flow? (23:55)Why oversharing with your lender will sink your loan (30:24)The conventional-loan fee racket vs DSCR (34:54)The Buffett yardstick at 230 percent and what it signals (38:39)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)
Transcribe →EP 492 - How to Spot a Real Estate Mentor Who's About to Sink You
May 1200:40:27Tap to summarizeWhat did you think of todays show??A Hawaii broker tracked Mike down by email to warn him a Pace Morby sub-to deal had collapsed, the investors were headed for the SEC, and the people at the top had already paid themselves. In this episode, Mike and Dylan break down who actually profits when a deal goes wrong, from wholesalers who squeeze the seller after the inspection to syndication fees you pay whether the fund performs or not. Plus, why a record slice of the stock market belongs to almost nobody.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Working and closing deals while you travel (2:12)The $2 bill trick that builds business connections (4:05)The Pace Morby deal headed to the SEC (5:49)How the top five paid themselves first (8:28)Two kinds of operators: revenue vs sustainability (13:00)Why "equity pirate" wasn't really an insult (14:27)You don't know your ethics until you're tested (15:44)The price-drop that got wholesalers banned (17:40)Syndication fees you pay for zero performance (20:12)The 30-year mortgage tops 5% again (22:26)The stock market's record concentration at the top (30:01)Why companies, not governments, may run everything (31:35)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)
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