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In the 'Collecting Keys - Real Estate Investing Podcast,' seasoned Real Estate experts Mike DeHaan and Dan Austin discuss how to use Real Estate to create Massive Income not just Passive Income.
Real estate doesn't have to be a get-rich slow game, and by bringing over 500 successful deals worth of experience in three years, their episodes unpack the art of real estate investing, wholesaling, house flipping, and transforming properties into profitable rentals.
Listen as they share uncensored insights and strategies, from compelling guest interviews revealing personal journeys and finding off-market deals to in-depth deal analyses and the latest market trends.
Whether you're taking your first investment step or scaling up your portfolio, embark on your investment journey with the Collecting Keys podcast - where every episode unlocks a door that brings you one step closer to financial freedom so you can finally live the life of your dreams.

What did you think of todays show??The appraisal is dying. Big lenders are building their own AI valuations, one broker rebuilt his entire MLS in a single weekend, and the people whose whole job was telling you what a house is worth are about to be gone. In this episode, we break down which real estate middlemen AI is about to wipe out, why Cincinnati could be the next market lenders blacklist, and why filing an insurance claim almost never pays off.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Revisiting the Brandon Turner and Pace Morby guru fallout (00:08)The Cincinnati appraisal mess lenders are watching (06:21)The fraud network that quietly costs investors money (07:42)Why appraisers are about to be eliminated (09:49)How AI could erase real estate agents and the MLS (14:37)The new wholesale disclosure laws and the loophole (17:33)Finding the local lender who thinks he is winning (20:16)Why filing an insurance claim rarely pays off (22:04)Why your insurance premium doubles after one claim (24:17)Bitcoin's comeback and Iran's reserve play (31:01)The K-shaped recession and Bezos's tax pitch (34:23)Why this generation can't figure anything out (37:45)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)

What did you think of todays show??Before you write a six-figure check into a syndication, listen to this episode. Brandon Turner's Class B investors just lost 100 percent of their money on a single Houston deal. We break down who you can actually trust with your money: the spokesperson-versus-operator filter, the cash floor that protects you, why oversharing tanks your loan, and what the Buffett yardstick at 230 percent is signaling about the market.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)The Brandon Turner fund just wiped out Class B investors (07:18)Why losing 100 percent in real estate syndications is more common than you think (09:20)The downside math nobody pitching syndications wants to show you (11:01)The cash floor before any swing investment (15:08)Spokesperson vs operator: how to filter the founder you trust (17:29)Eviction speeds and rent-increase rules: Ohio vs Washington (19:29)The Cincinnati hypothetical: would you take a $100K spread with a year of negative cash flow? (23:55)Why oversharing with your lender will sink your loan (30:24)The conventional-loan fee racket vs DSCR (34:54)The Buffett yardstick at 230 percent and what it signals (38:39)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)

What did you think of todays show??A Hawaii broker tracked Mike down by email to warn him a Pace Morby sub-to deal had collapsed, the investors were headed for the SEC, and the people at the top had already paid themselves. In this episode, Mike and Dylan break down who actually profits when a deal goes wrong, from wholesalers who squeeze the seller after the inspection to syndication fees you pay whether the fund performs or not. Plus, why a record slice of the stock market belongs to almost nobody.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Working and closing deals while you travel (2:12)The $2 bill trick that builds business connections (4:05)The Pace Morby deal headed to the SEC (5:49)How the top five paid themselves first (8:28)Two kinds of operators: revenue vs sustainability (13:00)Why "equity pirate" wasn't really an insult (14:27)You don't know your ethics until you're tested (15:44)The price-drop that got wholesalers banned (17:40)Syndication fees you pay for zero performance (20:12)The 30-year mortgage tops 5% again (22:26)The stock market's record concentration at the top (30:01)Why companies, not governments, may run everything (31:35)Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)

What did you think of todays show??If it doesn't have wheels, Aaron Bihl doesn't want it. After splitting with his Texas business partner and watching the San Antonio flip market grind to a halt, he moved to South Carolina and went all-in on new mobile homes on cheap lots. In this episode, we break down why FHA buyers love new manufactured homes, how Aaron sources lots for $10-15K, the trap of paying retail for land, and why hard money loans aren't part of his game anymore.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Why Aaron left San Antonio for Greenville (01:50)The Texas market is brutally slow (02:36)Why South Carolina is mobile-home country (04:25)Chris Reed and the 12 ways to monetize (05:32)Why new manufactured homes are FHA-eligible day one (09:01)Aaron's economics: $10-15K lots, $225K sales (11:03)Hard money vs private money: what to actually ask (15:13)The biggest gotcha (perk tests and county-level rules) (25:17)Greenville's old-money explosion (34:31)Why AI is a distraction for most investors (41:00)Connect with Aaron Bihl:https://www.fliptrailers.comhttps://www.instagram.com/aaron.bihl/Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com (https://podcastboutique.com/)

What did you think of todays show??Most fund operators get paid whether your money performs or not — acquisition fees, management fees, prefs that don't actually pay until years in. Drew Wiard built his fund the opposite way: zero fees, and he personally guarantees every loan, so he doesn't get paid until you do. In this episode, Drew is back for round four on why that skin-in-the-game structure is the alignment most operators won't touch, why industrial is the unsexy corner of the market nobody posts about on Instagram, and bonus depreciation that puts 20–30% of your capital back in year one.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Why finance-space culture is so different from real estate (03:13)Multi-family vs. single-family — where's the downside really at? (08:15)Why lenders are bypassing appraisals entirely (10:48)The DSCR fraud ring lenders are still cleaning up (13:25)Inside Drew's commercial industrial fund (16:49)The personal-guarantee structure most operators won't touch (21:55)Why industrial real estate isn't on Instagram (and why that's the opportunity) (25:25)Triple net leases and how Drew adds value without flipping (30:32)The 20–30% bonus depreciation play for high-W-2 earners (32:55)Investment thesis discipline: make money, don't lose money (37:22)Concentration risk and the case for taking chips off the table (46:25)Sign up to join the FREE Scale Community! https://collectingkeys.com/Want deeper breakdowns like this every week? Subscribe to the Collecting Keys newsletter! https://collectingkeys.com/newsletter/Connect with Drew Wiard:https://www.linkedin.com/in/drew-wiard-4b99bba3/https://www.instagram.com/theflyinginvestorFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

What did you think of todays show??If you're spending your weekends building AI agents for your business, there's a good chance you've already fallen into the trap most entrepreneurs are walking right into.In this episode, we break down how AI is hurting most entrepreneurs' businesses, the one case where Mike actually used AI the right way, and what the S&P 500 hitting all-time highs during a war really says about the economy.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)AI and the stock market (03:33)Why building your own AI is a deflection (08:13)The first 2-person billion-dollar company (10:48)The right and wrong way to use AI in your business (13:32)Scarcity mindset and AI in the wholesale space (17:01)The truth about the S&P 500 and economic indicators (17:58)The AI “arms race” and who's really in power (24:44)What can we believe about the Iran war? (32:45)Sign up to join the FREE Scale Community! https://collectingkeys.com/Want deeper breakdowns like this every week? Subscribe to the Collecting Keys newsletter! https://collectingkeys.com/newsletter/Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

What did you think of todays show??They told you to max out your retirement accounts. Mike is doing the opposite.In this episode, we get into why traditional retirement accounts might be working against you, and where Mike is putting his money instead. We also break down the insider trading problem nobody wants to talk about — and whether the financial system behind your portfolio is as trustworthy as you’ve been led to believe.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)The Airbnb model that could actually work (00:30)Why you should pay quarterly taxes (01:27)Airbnb tax benefits you should know about (08:13)Las Vegas lending conference and the Russian gambler (11:58)Fake tax infographics and gurus (18:51)Why Mike doesn’t believe in IRAs (21:10)Is the government keeping the stock market high? (29:00)Insider trading, Polymarket, and why the market is rigged (31:00)Why off-market investors need to change their sales pitch (34:15)Which real estate guru is going down next? (38:00)Dan’s take on all the military firings (44:00)Sign up to join the FREE Scale Community! https://collectingkeys.com/Want deeper breakdowns like this every week? Subscribe to the Collecting Keys newsletter! https://collectingkeys.com/newsletter/Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

What did you think of todays show??We sat in a room with some of the biggest lenders in the country last week. What we heard wasn't reassuring. From rising appraisal fraud to (not) shocking statements from a loan officer, this episode breaks down what's really happening inside the lending industry and how it could impact real estate investors.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Two concerning trends in the lending industry (01:46)Appraisal fraud and the problem with CDAs (05:25)Why lenders, LOs, and appraisers might be lying to you (09:51)Unrated securitizations and changes in DSCR lending (12:49)Macroeconomic risk and parallels to 2008 (15:11)AI, unemployment, and the future of consumerism (16:24)Iran, oil prices, and Mike’s Medicare theory (21:53)Why rates aren't coming down and what to do about your debt now (25:38)Portfolio architecture: what to buy, what to hold, and what to watch out for (27:59)Where the lending industry is headed (34:29)Sign up to join the FREE Scale Community! https://collectingkeys.com/Want deeper breakdowns like this every week? Subscribe to the Collecting Keys newsletter! https://collectingkeys.com/newsletter/Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

What did you think of todays show??Everyone's telling you AI is gonna change your business. They're right — but it could actually be costing you deals.In this episode, we break down why AI is being wildly oversold in real estate, how the focus on automations is costing you money, and the rate chaos hitting investors right now.We also get into the macro stuff nobody wants to talk about: what a war with Iran is doing to the economy and how to keep your head in the game when everything feels unstable.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Realities of the lending business - and why payoff statements take so long (01:34)Crypto-backed mortgages (06:29)How AI has cost real estate investors deals (09:17)Tesla robots, Waymo self-driving cars, and the future of automation (18:37)The war with Iran and what it means for the economy (27:28)Interest rate chaos and DSCR fraud crackdowns (37:49)Sign up to join the FREE Scale Community! https://collectingkeys.com/Want deeper breakdowns like this every week? Subscribe to the Collecting Keys newsletter! https://collectingkeys.com/newsletter/Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

What did you think of todays show??Which real estate guru would survive a Hunger Games-style showdown? We built a March Madness bracket to find out. From Grant Cardone to Pace Morby, 16 of the biggest names in real estate will fight for the championship — and only one person will make it out alive.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)The March Madness real estate bracket (01:23)The players and the rules (05:55)The matchups (07:54)Semi-final matchups (22:01)Championship matchup: who will win? (31:33)Sign up to join the FREE Scale Community! https://collectingkeys.com/Want deeper breakdowns like this every week? Subscribe to the Collecting Keys newsletter! https://collectingkeys.com/newsletter/Follow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com