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Megan
Hello, college bound listeners. My name is Megan, and I'm a current sophomore here at the University of Notre Dame. We are so excited to bring you another episode of our podcast, the Post Notre Dame Experience, a conversation with Indy graduates about what their life has been like after graduation, Whether that was attending graduate school, going into the workforce, or moving abroad. We are ready to share with you the endless possibilities that are at your hands when you graduate from Notre Dame. In this episode, we feature Woody Northup here with us today, who will be talking to us about his journey and career since he graduated in 1970. He is also my grandfather and one of my biggest inspirations for attending Notre Dame. Hi, Woody. Thanks for joining us today. I would love to hear what your Notre Dame intro is. So that's your major, your grad year, your hometown, your dorm, and what you're doing now.
Woody Northup
I graduated in 1970, long time ago now. My original dorm was Farley Hall. I lived there freshman and junior year. In my sophomore year, I was in Innsbruck, Austria, on the Notre Dame exchange program. And then in my senior year, I was off campus. My major, Liberal arts, English literature.
Megan
And what are you doing now?
Woody Northup
Well, I'm retired, but I still own the business that I started back in 1985 called Radio Sound. It's an electronic design and build business and we cater mostly to power sports equipment, Harley Davidson, Polaris, motorcycles, ATVs, ORVs. We provide radio speakers, amplifiers, headsets, all kinds of entertainment equipment for the outdoor market.
Megan
Wow, that's so awesome. And I definitely want to get more into it. But before we jump into that, I'd love to hear, what do you think is the biggest change in Notre Dame you've seen since you graduated?
Woody Northup
I would say, Megan, that there is a whole lot more prosperity at Notre Dame just in terms of the physical landscaping, the buildings, everything is just done to a tee. Had not really perfected the art of fundraising that they have now perfected to help the campus look the way it does right now. The biggest change, of course, is that there are now women going to Notre Dame and there were no women going to Notre Dame when I was there. We had a few St. Mary's exchange students and I took a couple of classes over at St. Mary's in exchange, but there were no women on campus.
Megan
Wow, that is such a big change. So now jumping a little bit into your professional life, how do you think Notre Dame prepared you for the professional world? A especially operating your own business?
Woody Northup
Notre Dame encouraged me to take some risks. The prime example of that would be The Innsbruck program. Back then, the Innsbruck program, which was an exchange program for Notre Dame students to go over and attend the University of Innsbruck, was very revolutionary. Father Ted Hesburgh started this in 1964. I went in 67, so I was the fourth class to go. It was revolutionary at the time, especially during sophomore year, which is pretty young to be. To be gone. So in order to do that, I had to make the decision basically to leave my beloved campus, a campus where we had just won the national championship in football, where I had met a girl that I would end up marrying all my friends, the Great Spirit. I loved every minute of my freshman year. I had to leave all that and take a chance and go to a different country well beyond the reach of my parents. We communicated with letters twice during the year. I had a phone call home, but they were so expensive, nobody really called home. So I, along with 35 other guys, were on our own. We were untethered. We were not part of the infrastructure that we had been a part of our whole lives. It was scary. It was also thrilling, and it was one of the seminal experiences of my life. I would say that almost more than any other experience I had at Notre Dame prepared me to be an adult. We had to grow up fast over there. We were traveling on our own. It was a growing up experience. And I'm still very, very, very close to the remaining members of that Innsbruck class. The second most important part of my Notre Dame life was that I did meet my wife, Ann. Didn't know she was going to be my wife then, but one of the first nights of my freshman year, and ended up marrying at the end of our junior year. So why do I tell you this? Well, Innsbruck and my wife have different, varying degrees, encouraged me to take chances. Innsbruck taking the chance to go over there, being untethered, risk taking, it wasn't totally dangerous or anything like that, but it was totally different. I was totally out of my comfort zone when I went to Innsbruck, as were my 35 friends. And it taught me the rewards of taking a chance, of untethering yourself to the reality of what you've been a part. That was a huge, huge thing for me. Second, my wife, Ann, is much more of a risk taker, I would say, much more daring, I would say, than I am. And by being in a relationship with her, she encouraged me to take risks that I probably would not have taken in my business had I not been married to her.
Megan
As your granddaughter, that story is quite important. So now, moving on to today, Many students today have the question of how they might go about opening a business. What was your discernment process in figuring that out and actually running the business?
Woody Northup
I sort of would like to go back just a little bit and talk about my education. The importance of the subjects that I took, literature, history, philosophy was very important as to how I would conduct myself as a business person, especially starting my own business. When you study literature and history, you learn. It's really a history of leadership. You're learning about how to lead, how other leaders have led throughout the years, throughout the centuries. It gave me an opportunity to sort of mold in my own mind the kind of leader that I wanted to be. But in addition to that, Notre Dame being a Catholic school, you know, I took theology and religion too. One of the great things that religion teaches you is the path of descent. And by that I mean you often have to go down before you can rise back up again. I mean, just think of the crucifixion three days later, the resurrection. So without the crucifixion, there would be no resurrection. So life is like that too. And there are lots of opportunities that occur when you're in the midst of a downtrend. Out of chaos often comes great opportunities. And that's what happened to me. When I started my business, I was with a business. It was an electronics business that had a total crisis. And what I did was I picked up the pieces of that business and approached one of the customers of that business and asked them if I could continue to supply them with the product that they needed as a new company, as a new entity. That customer was a small one, very small at the time. Harley Davidson, they weren't making many motorcycles, they weren't using many radios. But I convinced them that we could supply them. And so that's what started my business. And within three to four years, their business had quintupled and we were sailing along with them on their rapid rise to the top of the motorcycle world. So that's how fast things can change. You have to be willing to take a chance. I had no job backup. I was not going to be employed if this didn't work, I would have had to go find another job. But as it turned out, my partners and I were able to turn that opportunity into. Into a company that's now lasted 38 years.
Megan
It's so interesting that you could have that vision to talk to Harley Davidson and ask for this and that. It went so well.
Woody Northup
We were lucky. Every new entrepreneur has to be fortunate. Things just don't always turn Out. And I had tried starting a business three years before that that ultimately things fell through. So I'd had some experience with setting up the financing and going through the banks and providing all the information that they needed. And so when the second opportunity came along, I already knew what to do then. It was just a question of would the customer go along with it? Would the banks go along with it? And, you know, basically the bank said, well, if the customer goes along with it, we'll go along with it. And the customer said, well, if the bank backs you, we'll go along with it. And I said, look, let's everybody get together and do this.
Megan
So let me ask you a question about your major. So your major was in the arts and letters program, or that's roughly what we'd call it today. But what is your opinion on going into business school versus majoring in arts and letters?
Woody Northup
You have to choose a major no matter what. You're going to miss something once you start narrowing down your course of studies. So what I missed when I narrowed mine down to. To what we call liberal arts, I miss the business preparation side. But if you're a business major, you're going to miss the great literature side. And the literature side is what taught me how to relate to people, how to communicate with them in a meaningful way, how to pay attention to them. The leaders that I studied throughout literature, great books and history, philosophy, all those influenced my style of leadership, which is congenial, which is more of a coach than certainly not autocratic. That helped me a lot. Now, can you get that once you've been to business school? Yeah, sure you can. And just like me, could I get the numbers part of it and everything else that I needed to run the business? Yes, I did. Because when I started into my career as a business person right out of college, I learned about how the businesses run. I learned about the numbers. I learned about the accounting. I learned about the importance of running things by the numbers. And don't doubt it. I run my business by the numbers. I mean, we pay attention to numbers every day, every month, every year. So those are things that you miss when you narrow your major down. But it's not that you can't get them back. It's not that you can't still find the wherewithal to fill in that missing part of your agenda.
Megan
Thank you so much. I have never heard that sort of advice between, you know, an arts and letters major and a business major. And funny enough for me, I actually have both. I definitely appreciate that perspective And I think our listeners will appreciate that as well in deciding their own majors. So just two final questions to wrap up the podcast. So first off, kind of a quick one. What was your favorite class in college?
Woody Northup
In terms of English literature? The one I learned the most from was my class on Herman Melville. That particular semester was devoted to the guy that wrote Moby Dick and other great novels. Most of Melville's works have religious symbology in them, and I thought it was a fascinating look at someone who was famous. The book isn't that enjoyable to read. It's sort of dark and dour and not a lot of fun, but there are a lot of great lessons in it. Another one that I thought was really fun was 18th century literature and poetry. We read a lot of the great poets of English. The meanings inside a lot of those poems are so intricate and so well done. It's like doing a puzzle, like doing a crossword puzzle and finding out little hints and clues to what they're really talking about. That was really fun.
Megan
Also, it's funny, you know, even today, even if you're not in arts and letters, you still have to take two classes on philosophy. You have to take a university seminar class, which feels very similar when you talk about poetry, and then two theology classes. So it's really cool to see how Notre Dame has really taken that value from the major and tried to use it today in all students. But wrapping up the podcast, I'll end with one final question. Talk to me about how you're still involved with Notre Dame or how the alumni network throughout the years has served you.
Woody Northup
Here's what I will tell you from a general point of view. If you graduate from Notre Dame, you're always going to be very proud that you are a Notre Dame alum. The principles and morals they advocate for are timeless and they make you proud that you are an alum of that school. Football, of course, we've always been involved since I left with football. It's a unifying force in the school itself. It's so much fun. It's so interesting to see whether we, as a top rated academic institution can still compete on the football field with the powerhouses. More particularly, I am and my wife Ann are members of the Council for Church Life at Notre Dame, which is one of the five major councils. That council is devoted to making sure that Notre Dame maintains its Catholic identity as an institution. And that particular council oversees several programs, outreach programs to both the South Bend community and the Notre Dame community, but also throughout the country. Religious instruction, training for church leaders in many dioceses. It's a very interesting council. It's very important to me and to Ann, my wife, that Notre Dame not backslide on its Catholic traditions and its dedication to Catholic principles.
Megan
That's absolutely amazing. It's so cool to see that even after all this time, you're still able to be so involved with the university. Well, that's all the time that we have for today. Thank you so much, Woody, for your time. And thank you, listeners, for joining us today for another episode of College Bound. We hope you enjoyed getting to hear one perspective about what your time at Notre Dame can look like. Come back next week for another insightful experience about a Notre Dame alum. And make sure you listen to our past seasons of College Bound on Spotify, Apple or wherever you listen to your podcasts. That's all for today. Bye. See you next time in Go Irish.
Podcast Summary: College Bound – Episode: Post-ND: The Liberal Arts Entrepreneur
Introduction
In the March 30, 2023 episode of College Bound, host Megan engages with Woody Northup, a distinguished Notre Dame alumnus from the Class of 1970. Woody, Megan’s grandfather, shares his enriching journey post-graduation, highlighting his experiences in entrepreneurship and the enduring impact of a liberal arts education. This conversation provides invaluable insights for current and prospective students navigating their academic and professional paths.
Woody Northup’s Notre Dame Experience
Woody begins by outlining his time at Notre Dame, emphasizing his academic and extracurricular engagements. Graduating in 1970 with a major in Liberal Arts, specifically English Literature, Woody recounts living in Farley Hall during his freshman and junior years. Notably, his sophomore year was spent abroad in Innsbruck, Austria, participating in Notre Dame’s exchange program.
Notable Quote:
"I graduated in 1970, long time ago now. My original dorm was Farley Hall... my major, Liberal arts, English literature."
— Woody Northup [00:49]
Evolution of Notre Dame Since 1970
Discussing the transformations at Notre Dame, Woody highlights significant advancements in campus infrastructure and inclusivity. He notes the substantial fundraising efforts that have enhanced the university’s physical landscape and underscores the monumental shift towards coeducation, recalling that during his time, Notre Dame admitted no women students except for a few exchange students from St. Mary's.
Notable Quote:
"The biggest change, of course, is that there are now women going to Notre Dame and there were no women going to Notre Dame when I was there."
— Woody Northup [01:52]
Preparation for the Professional World and Entrepreneurship
Woody attributes much of his professional success to the liberal arts education he received at Notre Dame. He elaborates on how studying literature, history, and philosophy equipped him with essential leadership and communication skills. These disciplines fostered a congenial leadership style, contrasting with more autocratic approaches.
He shares his pivotal experience in the Innsbruck exchange program, describing it as a "seminal experience" that taught him to take risks and adapt independently—qualities that proved crucial in his entrepreneurial journey.
Notable Quotes:
"Notre Dame encouraged me to take some risks... it was one of the seminal experiences of my life."
— Woody Northup [02:49]
"We have to be willing to take a chance... my partners and I were able to turn that opportunity into a company that's now lasted 38 years."
— Woody Northup [06:07]
Starting and Running Radio Sound
In 1985, Woody founded Radio Sound, an electronics design and build business catering primarily to the power sports market, including brands like Harley Davidson and Polaris. He narrates the challenges faced during the inception of his business, including salvaging a failing electronics company and securing pivotal contracts with major clients.
Woody emphasizes the importance of resilience and the ability to seize opportunities amidst crises, reflecting on his earlier failed entrepreneurial attempt three years prior to successfully establishing Radio Sound.
Notable Quote:
"When I started my business, I was with a business. It was an electronics business that had a total crisis... that's how fast things can change."
— Woody Northup [06:07]
Liberal Arts vs. Business Education
A central theme of the conversation revolves around the value of a liberal arts education versus a business major. Woody advocates for the comprehensive skill set developed through liberal arts, such as effective communication, relationship-building, and ethical leadership. While acknowledging that a business education provides essential numerical and financial acumen, he asserts that these skills can be acquired independently, even without a formal business major.
Notable Quotes:
"The literature side is what taught me how to relate to people, how to communicate with them in a meaningful way... that influenced my style of leadership, which is congenial."
— Woody Northup [09:51]
"It's not that you can't get them [business skills] back. It's not that you can't still find the wherewithal to fill in that missing part of your agenda."
— Woody Northup [09:51]
Reflecting on Academic Preferences
When asked about his favorite classes, Woody reminisces about his studies in Herman Melville’s literature and 18th-century poetry. He appreciates the deep symbolic meanings and intricate analyses these subjects offered, comparing the exploration of poetry to solving a puzzle.
Notable Quote:
"The meanings inside a lot of those poems are so intricate and so well done. It's like doing a puzzle... really fun."
— Woody Northup [11:59]
Alumni Involvement and Notre Dame’s Community
Woody discusses his ongoing relationship with Notre Dame, highlighting the pride associated with being an alumnus and the enduring values instilled by the university. He and his wife, Ann, are active members of the Council for Church Life, ensuring that Notre Dame maintains its Catholic identity and engages in meaningful outreach programs.
Notable Quote:
"If you graduate from Notre Dame, you're always going to be very proud that you are a Notre Dame alum... it's a unifying force in the school itself."
— Woody Northup [13:29]
Conclusion
Woody Northup’s narrative underscores the profound impact of a liberal arts education in shaping adaptive, ethical, and resilient leaders. His entrepreneurial success with Radio Sound exemplifies how the skills and values cultivated at Notre Dame extend beyond academia into the professional realm. Additionally, his continued involvement with the university highlights the strong, enduring community that Notre Dame fosters among its alumni.
Listeners gain a comprehensive understanding of the multifaceted benefits of attending Notre Dame, illustrating that the university not only imparts knowledge but also cultivates personal growth and lifelong connections.
Final Thoughts
This episode of College Bound offers a compelling testament to the enduring legacy of a Notre Dame education. Through Woody Northup’s experiences, current and prospective students are inspired to leverage their academic backgrounds, take calculated risks, and remain engaged with the alumni network to carve their unique paths to success.