CFB LIVE - ACC KICKOFF DAY 3

Summary

College Football Live – ACC Kickoff Day 3

Podcast Summary – July 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on Day 3 of ACC Media Days, with deep dives into key programs—especially SMU, Cal, North Carolina, and Indiana—alongside player spotlights, coaching transitions, and win projections for several major ACC teams. Hosted by Zubin Mehenti alongside Tom Rinaldi, Luke Wileman, Jeff Brown, and Pete Thamel, the discussion is lively and insightful, geared toward understanding the coming college football season among the shifting landscapes of conference realignment and the transfer portal era.

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Major Discussion Highlights

1. Spotlight on SMU and QB Kevin Jennings

[01:06–05:04]

• Jennings' Rise & Heisman Buzz:
  SMU, now in the ACC, is highlighted for its success, largely on the shoulders of QB Kevin Jennings.

  • Quote:
    • "When Kevin sets his feet in the pocket...he can make every throw. He's accurate. He's elite." – Jeff Brown [02:21]
    • "I think he's the best back, shoulder, downfield thrower to the outside that we have in college football.” – Tom Rinaldi [03:29]
  • Jennings’ Skills: Praised for off-platform accuracy, elite arm talent, and playmaking—even while battling injury last year.
  • Development Under Lashley: Coach Rhett Lashley compared Jennings’ improvisational ability to Patrick Mahomes', but noted the double-edged sword of playing too loose at times.

• Defense is Key for SMU Going Forward:

  • SMU’s defense regressed last season (from top-30 to 89th nationally), and improving it is crucial for playoff prospects.
  • Quote:
    • “If SMU is going to get back to the College Football Playoff, they got to play better defense.” – Luke Wileman [04:10]

2. SMU's Ceiling in the ACC

[05:04–06:39]

• Financial Power and Ambition:
  • SMU is described as a "gold mine" institution with boosters capable of quickly raising $160 million and building elite rosters.
  • Their Dallas recruiting footprint makes SMU a top draw; their aggressive NIL spending is openly acknowledged.
  • Quote:
    • “They essentially bought their way into the ACC. Nobody pushes back on that...They are not afraid to buy big time rosters.” – Pete Thamel [05:25]
  • Retention via the transfer portal is strong, with Dallas-area talent often returning.

3. Cal Football’s Recommitment & Star QB

[07:09–10:27]

• Coach Tosh Lupoi Era:
  • Hired to revitalize Cal with ties to the program and landing/re-recruiting top talent.
  • QB Jaron “JK” Kiave Saga Pouletelli:
    • Universally praised as the league’s most talented passer.
    • Retained via active recruiting trips to Hawaii.
    • Quote:
      • “That guy could be the top pick in the draft.” – Jeff Brown, via Pete Thamel [08:15]
      • “With this guy you have both arm strength and arm talent...He’s that talented.” – Tom Rinaldi [09:49]
  • Cal’s success in both high school and portal recruiting sets them up for an immediate impact.

4. UNC: Bill Belichick’s Year Two

[12:21–15:21]

• Belichick’s Reboot Approach:

  • After a tumultuous year one, with heavy portal use and roster turnover, Belichick pivots—bringing in 40 true freshmen, 31 early enrollees, for program continuity.
  • Notable Quotes:
    • “UNC is, quote, ‘way ahead of where they were last year’ and called the difference ‘night and day.’” – Pete Thamel, relaying Bill Belichick [13:37]
    • “I expect everybody to come in and perform at their best. I want to do the same thing I can to help the team in any way I possibly can...” – Bill Belichick [12:21]

• Offense and Staff Additions:

  • New OC Bobby Petrino expected to improve one of last year’s worst offenses, with potential for drastic improvement in both the run game and explosive passing.
  • Improved defense in late 2025 provides basis for optimism.

5. Recruiting Shockwaves: Monsoon Sales to Indiana

[16:09–17:18]

• Indiana Lands Highest-Ranked In-State Prospect:
  • Monsoon Sales: 6'4", 190 pounds, blazing speed (10.8s in 100m, 21.9 in 200m).
  • Symbolizes Indiana's post-title recruiting surge, especially after recent national championship win.
  • Quote:
    • “Guys that can do that aren’t growing on trees...This is a huge pickup.” – Tom Rinaldi [16:49]

6. Win Totals: Over/Under Picks for ACC Contenders

[19:19–24:14]

• Clemson (7.5 wins) – Over:

  • “I think they're going to be a much improved football team.” – Tom Rinaldi [20:01]

• Duke (5.5 wins) – Over:

  • Defending ACC champs with improved defense and proven offensive pieces.
  • “I am hammering over five and a half with Duke.” – Luke Wileman [20:42]

• Florida State (6.5 wins) – Over:

  • Rinaldi and Wileman both cautious, noting tough schedule but see the Noles just clearing the bar.
  • “I think it’s the over. But will the over be enough?” – Tom Rinaldi [22:05]
  • “I will take the over. I think they hit seven.” – Luke Wileman [22:42]

• NC State (7.5 wins) – Over:

  • Strong roster, improved defense, favorable schedule.
  • “This is a 10 win roster in my opinion...what they can't do is lose to people they're not supposed to.” – Tom Rinaldi [24:03]

7. Looking Forward: SEC Media Days

[24:14–24:53]

• Big Questions for the SEC:
  • Who emerges at QB for Tennessee and Alabama?
  • Strength and conditioning buzz around John Matier’s “biceps.”
  • “What is Alabama from a quarterback perspective? Do they bring one of them? Do they bring both of them?” – Tom Rinaldi [24:43]

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Memorable Quotes & Notable Segments

• On SMU’s ambition:

  • “They essentially bought their way into the ACC. Nobody pushes back on that.” – Pete Thamel [05:25]

• On Cal’s new QB:

  • “There's not a single quarterback in this league that is more talented throwing the ball than Jaren Calvary Sanga Polytele.” – Luke Wileman [09:04]

• On UNC’s transformation:

  • “UNC is, quote, ‘way ahead of where they were last year’ and called the difference ‘night and day.’” – Pete Thamel [13:37]

• On recruiting impact:

  • “When you win a national championship...the access now that you have to players like Monsoon Sales.” – Tom Rinaldi [16:49]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• SMU & Kevin Jennings Heisman talk – [01:06–05:04]
• SMU’s Accession & NIL Realities – [05:04–06:39]
• Cal’s Rebuild & JKS – [07:09–10:27]
• Belichick Year Two at UNC – [12:21–15:21]
• Recruiting Bombshell: Monsoon Sales – [16:09–17:18]
• ACC Win Totals Over/Under Analysis – [19:19–24:14]
• SEC Media Days Preview – [24:14–24:53]

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Overall Tone and Takeaways

The panel brings a blend of analytical depth and locker-room banter, delving into both the big-money realities of modern college football (especially at SMU), the emerging power of recruitment in the transfer portal era, and the tactical, philosophical shifts of programs like North Carolina under NFL legend Bill Belichick. The narrative is one of transition—teams and coaches overhauling strategies and rosters, traditional powers retooling, and new contenders leveraging unprecedented resources to climb the ladder.

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This episode is essential for anyone tracking the evolving balance of power and storylines in the ACC for 2026—and a must-hear for fans of SMU, Cal, UNC, and the broader college football landscape.

Transcript

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[Tom Rinaldi]

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[Luke Wileman]

You live for moments like these. I said, are you strong? They said, I'm strong.

[Smalls]

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[Luke Wileman]

I said, we strong.

[Tom Rinaldi]

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[Zubin Mehenti]

They ain't feel how we feel. They ain't cry how we cry. The circumstance doesn't define you. Your response does. So go respond to every situation. That's your mental toughness.

[Luke Wileman]

You deserve these moments here.

[Tom Rinaldi]

This is as good as it gets, this College football.

[Zubin Mehenti]

The third and final day of ACC media days. We'll hear from these six men. Bill Belichick on the way. Rhett Lashley, SMU's head coach, has this guy at his disposal.

[Tom Rinaldi]

When I came out of high school,

[Luke Wileman]

I had no offers.

[Zubin Mehenti]

Nobody was looking at me because Lashley believed in me. And I'm putting my heart back into

[Luke Wileman]

that and finish it off as a wrestling.

[Jeff Brown]

The best thing about Kev is he's just consistent.

[Tom Rinaldi]

Jennings pivots, pulls, touchdown, stings. He is an explosive guy who's got tremendous arm talent, and he's becoming the real heartbeat of this team. How about that? Did it go behind the back? I mean, are you kidding me? Jennings confident in the pocket seam route.

[Pete Thamel]

There it is.

[Zubin Mehenti]

And the SMU touchdown.

[Jeff Brown]

And look, I think he's a top five Heisman guy.

[Zubin Mehenti]

More on that in just a second. His last couple seasons, which includes one trip to the playoff, indicates these numbers are great. He has had some turnover problems in really big games. But speaking of that Heisman buzz,

[Jeff Brown]

love

[Zubin Mehenti]

when SMU rolls in, they come very gifts.

[Tom Rinaldi]

Look what we got, folks. Big time and a shirt that fits. You know, everybody usually makes the Excel

[Jeff Brown]

or the the medium, but three for the big guys.

[Tom Rinaldi]

We take care of the big guys, okay? Superman over there.

[Jeff Brown]

Oh, look at.

[Tom Rinaldi]

Let's go.

[Jeff Brown]

So let's go. Let's have a conversation. When Kevin Sets his feet in the pocket. He's elite the ball. I mean he can make every throw. He's accurate. He's elite. Well, what can Kevin do? Kevin can do what Patrick Mahomes can do and some of those great players, he can throw off balance his body this way, throw it that way, throw it behind his back and be right and so. But sometimes when you can do that, it's a two edged sword because if you can do that when you need to, you just do it all the time. And no offense. All these QB trainers, they don't train you to go 1, 2, 3, hitch throw that. They train you to like jump over brooms, do backflips and throw the ball.

[Zubin Mehenti]

That's favorite.

[Tom Rinaldi]

Hell, because if you, if you, if

[Jeff Brown]

you just train them to take drops and sprint out, it's boring.

[Zubin Mehenti]

Yeah, you're bored.

[Jeff Brown]

So my point is trust your guys around you. And look, when things break down, go be you because you're elite at it. But when the pocket's clean, want set your feet, rip the ball.

[Zubin Mehenti]

Guys, there's so much to talk about. Welcome inside with Tom Roddy Pete there at ACC media days, day three. Tom, let's start with you. Last three years for SMU. They win the American, they go to the first year of the 12 team playoff. They win nine games a year ago largely on the back of this guy Jennings, who really deserves I think a lot more pub than the general public has given him.

[Tom Rinaldi]

Well, listen, he's a special talent. We just heard lastly talk about all of the different things that he can do and I think I would add one other thing there. I can't tell you how many countless clips I've pulled of him. I think he's the best back, shoulder, downfield thrower to the outside that we have in college football. His ball placement when guys are covered is absolutely fantastic. Here's an example of it right here. And he can do it from 10 yards away, he can do it from 40 yards away. But it's the off platform throws, I think that, you know, Rhett Lashley was referencing that make him special because the play is never over, the play is never dead. And it's, it's one thing to be off platform and maybe not have your feet underneath you. It's another thing to be able to do that and be accurate with the football.

[Luke Wileman]

And Kevin Jennings absolutely is that. And he did it last year despite having an injury early in the season to his ankle against Baylor that, that really plagued him throughout the season. You can go back to that Miami game where they pull the upset. There's a point of the game where he is hopping off on one leg because he got twisted up. And so I really look at Kevin Jennings as a guy that should be in the conversation when we talk nationally about best quarterbacks. But if SMU is going to get back to the College Football Playoff, they got to play better defense. And this is a team that in the two years they made it to the championship game, wanted in the American and made it in the accident, had a top 30 defense. It was top 15 in the American. It was 89th in the country last year and the second worst pass defense in America that has to improve. Rhett Lashley has talked about it and he talked about in the build of this program playing championship level defense. SMU has to get back to championship level defense if they're going to reach their goals this season.

[Zubin Mehenti]

Pete, to you, they had everything. They had the money, they're near some of the most talented players in the country and they finally have the ability to tell those kids you can play in a power four league. As they now firmly are entrenched in the acc. From a big picture perspective, what is the ceiling of a program like SMU if everything aligns? Pete

[Pete Thamel]

Zubin, the ceiling is, is limitless. We're in Carolina. I don't want to use that Michael Jordan line here, but what I would say is this. SMU went through about a 40 year stretch where it played a lot of bad football. They were outside of power league. They didn't make a bowl for a significant stretch. They were the poster boy for NCAA infract over that same 40 year period of time. They produce a lot of billionaires, right? The university itself, some oil came up from the ground. They have some very, very well heeled alumni. They essentially bought their way into the acc. Nobody pushes back on that. And they have shown early on, Zubin that they are not afraid to buy big time rosters. I look at their offensive line this year they have P.J. williams, a Texas A and M transfer he projects as a first round pick. That's the caliber player that could go for 4 or 5 million to one of these well heeled SEC or Big 10 teams. They've shown the ability to attract top talent and maybe most importantly, keep it

[Tom Rinaldi]

well, yeah, retaining it. And again in the transfer portal, when guys leave that Dallas metroplex area, guess where they're going to come back to, right? So you get that second cycle. But to your point, the money side of it, I tongue in cheek would call SMU when they came into the league, the league's walk on because they were not going to get any revenue, right? No scholarship. And then in a calendar year, they raise $160 million. So if that tells you where they are in the health of this program, it's a gold mine, no doubt.

[Zubin Mehenti]

The guy that's raising most of the money is a guy named David Miller who actually played basketball at smu. So not only does he have the money, he's got the SMU ties and he put on an SMU jersey. And that's an intangible sometimes you really, really cannot replicate. So here are some of the guys that are returning in the American, the ACC here. Kevin Jennings is somebody whom we talked about. There's three other guys we want to mention that are also returning to this league, starting with this guy in Raleigh.

[Jeff Brown]

Everything is slow for me right now, so, like, everything is moving, fluent shoot.

[Tom Rinaldi]

I got a grasp of the whole

[Jeff Brown]

offense, the whole team, and everybody believes in me.

[Tom Rinaldi]

I'm just ready to make some plays for NC State. I think getting that experience from this past year of, you know, just kind of getting some games under my belt, getting some time under my belt, I think that's helped to show everybody that, you know, I can play at this level. And, you know, I've proven that. It just felt right, you know, knew where this is where I wanted to be.

[Jeff Brown]

And, you know, he's. He's a head coach about winning and that's obviously what I want to do as well.

[Tom Rinaldi]

And, you know, the culture that he's

[Jeff Brown]

brought has been tremendous.

[Zubin Mehenti]

He is Tosh Lupoi, who is the new head coach at Cal. That guy right there. We're going to start with Pete because I know Pete is not going to take the easy way out and call him JK as he is going to probably address this man the way he needs to be addressed. Pete, I want to start with you. Just tell me about the. Just the recommitment. It feels like in my estimation that Cal football has made from the general manager keeping their quarterback and saying, in this new era of being in the acc, this is not the same. All Cal

[Pete Thamel]

Zubin. You couldn't have said it better. And by going and hiring Tosh Lupoi, they brought in one of their own who has a connection to better days. But Cal is committed. You get the caliber of players they brought in the portal. But nothing epitomizes it more than Jaron Kiave Saga Pouletelli. He could have gone virtually anywhere in the country after his Freshman year at Cal. Tosh Lapoy is an old recruiter now. He recruited for a lot of people, Nick Saban and others. He gets hired. He flew straight to Hawaii and he made sure that saga po came back to Cal after that freshman year. Look, he was already a reach recruit for Cal by the time he arrived. He spent a fortnight or so at Oregon and did their bowl practices and he was a four star in our rankings, a five star in others. And the quote maybe that hit my ear the most at media days was Jeff Brown Bear casually being like that guy could be the top pick in the draft. Jeff Brown knows a little bit about quarterbacks.

[Luke Wileman]

Yes, he does. There's not a single quarterback in this league that is more talented throwing the ball than Jaren Calvary Sanga Polytele. And I think you saw both the flashes of success and opportunities for growth with him from year one to year two. But really importantly, Tosh Lupoi kept Nick Rolovich, who was the quarterback's coach for for JKs in his freshman year. A great offensive mind, had been a head coach at the University of Hawaii, knows the island culture and can really relate to guys like Jaren Calva Sanga politely who are from the islands and the culture that they grow up in. So I think he has pressed all the right buttons. And that transfer portal class that they've gotten in, Luke's is unheralded. I think nationally if you look at the rankings, people are talking about it, but I don't know that a lot of people around college football know how much talent they brought in.

[Tom Rinaldi]

Well, and it's not just in the transfer portal rankings. It was the high school recruiting rankings as well. A top 20 class for Cal. So how many of those young guys do they get integrated now? I think the thing with JKS is this. People talk about arm strength and they talk about arm talent. With this guy you have both because there is a difference. Arm arm strength is pure power and velocity and can you make all the throws. But arm talent is your ability to change arm angles, the ability to get the ball out of your hand when things aren't perfect or you're rushed and you got people in your face. That guy does that so effortlessly. And I agree with Jeff Brom. I don't think there's any question he's a one day top overall pick in the NFL draft. He's that talented. Yeah.

[Zubin Mehenti]

And last thing I would say, Justin Wilcox did an amazing job with one hand tied behind his back. You got to be thinking, what is he thinking knowing that my successor has all of this at his disposal. It's just the way we are here in College football. On the way here on College Football Live, it's year two for that guy Belichick at the podium and he's expecting some big year to year improvement. We'll hear from him when College Football LIVE continues.

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[Jeff Brown]

I expect everybody to come in and perform at their best. I want to do the same thing I can to help the team in any way I possibly can, whether that's training or, you know, X's and O, strategy, fundamental, whatever it is. And you know, just continue to keep improving. We have a lot of good competition on the team, as I said, number of young players. We'll see how quickly they come along or don't, you know, and that'll, you know, we'll see how that goes. Expectations that have good days and stack them together.

[Zubin Mehenti]

Very interesting. Year two on Tapita, I want to start with you. I know you got some quality one on one time with Coach Belichick today. I was just checking out your story. It's on ESPN.com right now. For those of you who Want to check it out? We've got a guest here.

[Tom Rinaldi]

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[Zubin Mehenti]

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[Pete Thamel]

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[Zubin Mehenti]

And I'm stuck here in a phone booth talking to these three guys. All right, so here we go. Pete, bottom line, they might have a Heisman Trophy winner. You never know, right? Bill Belichick is known for finding talent, particularly in Year two. If you watch the NFL, they won the super bowl in year two after a tough year one in New England. But I know you had a chance to sit down, talk with him. What's the vibe you're getting, as everybody is just really looking forward to seeing if he can really make that leap.

[Pete Thamel]

Sure. Zuba. Bill Belichick was really blunt with me today when talking about how much better off he thinks UNC is this season compared to last year. There's myriad variables there, but basically, UNC last year brought in 40 players from the transfer portal. They had to bring a bunch of those in the post spring portal because a bunch of players left after playing spring ball with North Carolina. This year, there's really been a reboot, philosophically for Bill Belichick. They brought in 40 true freshmen, 31 of those are early enrollees. So there's been a lot more continuity. And Bill Belichick, who always chooses his words carefully, Zubin said UNC is, quote, way ahead of where they were last year and called the difference night and day. UNC had one of the worst offenses in the country last year. They were among the most penalized teams in the country last year. And Bill Belichick just thinks the continuity of having a team for a full spring, having a roster with a bunch of guys returning and guys who he's brought in and trained, puts them in much better position. There's Bobby Petrino as the oc. There's a quarterback battle that's coming, but just holistically, Bill Belichick indicated this is the way he wants to build his team. He wants to build it through freshmen. They can't go out in the portal and build it like they tried to two years ago out of necessity.

[Luke Wileman]

You mentioned Bobby Petrino being hired, and Bobby Petrino has a long history in college football, some of it obviously controversial, but on the field, the guy can coach football, and he has had one of the best offenses numerous times in college ball. You create Arkansas. Last year, that Arkansas offense was 18th in the country. In total offense, they put up over 496 yards seven times a year ago. They're going to have a challenging run game. They're going to have play action off of it that's going to put the quarterback in a position to succeed. And with improved talent on the roster, which it sounds like they feel that they have, I think this offense is going to have drastic improvement to match up with a defense that was much improved towards the end of the year last year.

[Tom Rinaldi]

Well, you mentioned that defense, and I know it took a lot of heat, but they actually played pretty decently considered. They were on the field all the time, had no offensive help. And so to get just a some of that back, it's going to give them a chance to be healthier and not as worn out on defense. But at the end of the day, I think it comes down to two things. Offensively for North Carolina, can you run the football consistently? You know, on three occasions last year, North Carolina ran the football for 145 yards or more. They were three. And oh, all right. A year ago at Arkansas, Bobby Petrino only had two games where they didn't rush for 145 yards or more. And then secondly, these quarterbacks have got to get the ball vertically. They got to create explosive plays. And whoever's going to make good decisions with the ball, protect the ball, will be the quarterback and push the ball vertically with an enhanced run game.

[Zubin Mehenti]

All right, we'll see what happens in a highly anticipated year to Tom. I want you to stick around, fellas. I want you to hear what Tom has to say about our next story here because this is kind of a unprecedented look at what Kurt Signetti is building. New on CFC Live. Earlier today on the Pat McInt show, motion sales commits to Indiana. Don't know this guy. He's one of the highest ranked players to ever come out of the state of Indiana in the modern recruiting era and the highest rated recruit to ever play for the Hoosiers. Our database goes back about 20 years or so. Tom, you've been covering recruiting and evaluating for more than 20 years. Tell us what we need to know about this guy and what this means for an Indiana program right now that is just soaring.

[Tom Rinaldi]

Well, isn't it amazing how the perception changes when you win a national championship and the access now that you have to players like Monsoon Sales. And the thing that's really interesting about him is he's 6 foot 4, 190 pounds, but he's run 10, 8 in the 100 meter and 21.9 in the 200 meter. Now when you're 5 foot 11, that's rolling 6 foot 4. Guys that can do that aren't growing on trees and they've had great success with Elijah Surratt who was a big guy, Charlie Becker, now who is a big guy and they bring another one in who can fly flat out run. This is a huge pickup.

[Zubin Mehenti]

Yeah, they often say success comes and then a couple of years after comes the recruiting success. And this is obviously case A for that. Just a reminder, flag championships for the guys and gals. It's one of the highest and fastest growing sports in the country all over ABC and ESPN NFL Flag.com for more on the way, Tom and Roddy will flag win totals for Clemson, for fsu, for NC State. Should you go over or under the guys with the answer on the final day of ACC Media Days, when College Football Live continues.

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We're back in Dabo Sweeney at ACC media days yesterday getting well defensive Dabo, listen to this.

[Tom Rinaldi]

This year, ain't none of y' all going to pick us. Ain't none of y' all gonna say anything good about us, it would. You know, I'm, I've been dead. I'm gone.

[Luke Wileman]

I think I'm still here. All right.

[Tom Rinaldi]

But it's not about that either.

[Luke Wileman]

It never has been. If it was about what people predicted, I'd have been gone a long time ago.

[Zubin Mehenti]

And speaking of predictions. Okay, Tom Europe, we're going to give you some over under win totals for three teams. You're going to start with Clemson. On your screen it says clearly seven and a half over under win total for Dabo and the Tigers.

[Tom Rinaldi]

Over. I think it's over. And for a little bit of what he stated right there, the fact that while everybody's talking about Miami or SMU or Louisville, here's Clemson just kind of lying in the weeds. And I think that's really healthy for them. Regardless of what happens in the opener at lsu, I think they're going to be a much improved football team. I'm taking the over.

[Luke Wileman]

I like that, Lukes. And good for you for not saying anything bad about it.

[Zubin Mehenti]

Fair enough. So Tom kicking the over, proving it won't be over for Dabo, even though people have been predicting that, as he said, for a while. Roddy, you're up. Duke five and a half over under. Just a reminder, they did lose a big quarterback here in the offseason to a fellow foe, ACC school.

[Luke Wileman]

Just a reminder, they're the defending ACC champions to everyone out there. Manny Diaz won nine games in his first year, won the league in year two. Hammer the over with the two Blue Devils. What are we doing? Five and a half. Look, the defense on this team is what really let them down a year ago. Offensively they had some peaks and valleys, but it was a lot more peaks than valleys. And then. So they're going to improve defensively. They've heavily invested in that secondary. There's change of faces on the defensive line. They get some good pieces back at linebacker and Manny Diaz is in, is a defensive guy and we look offensively, Jonathan Brewer has had success with Malik Murphy a couple years ago when they set records at Duke. Jerry and Mensa last year where they broke the records they set in year one. Walker, he gets thrown for over 5,000 yards in his career. I am hammering over five and a half with Duke.

[Tom Rinaldi]

Eget was a good save, right? Very good. I mean it's zero hour. They, they pulled a guy who played a lot of football. That three game stretch right there in November, NC State on the road at Miami and Clemson. That might dictate what that over is.

[Zubin Mehenti]

Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, no doubt. That November 14th game, Duke in Miami. That'll be the Mensa game. We'll keep our eye on next up here for you, Tom. This is the team. You guys have taken the over on the first two. Because if this guy doesn't hit the over, we're going to have problems. But this is your call. Florida state win total, 6 1/2 over, under.

[Tom Rinaldi]

I think it's the over. But even if it is the over, will it be enough of an over when it comes to the absolute win total? They're going to be improved. Listen, they've got tremendous offensive skill. They're going to need a lot out of Ashton Daniels. They're going to have a revamped offensive line. How they play in that SMU Alabama stretch coming off of the New Mexico State opener. And then look at their road contest, you know, at Louisville, tough place to play at Miami, great football team. But they do play host to Florida, Clemson and NC State. I still think it's going to be the over. But will the over be enough?

[Luke Wileman]

I. I would.

[Tom Rinaldi]

I would go push and a half walk out there. Mockingbird.

[Luke Wileman]

Yeah, exactly. I will. I will take the over. I think they hit seven because you look at at Alabama, at Miami, at Louisville, Clemson, NC State, Florida, like I think you're. You're probably losing at least 4 November.

[Tom Rinaldi]

Nice and chilly.

[Luke Wileman]

Yeah, I, I'm not. I'm not feeling great about it, but I will take the over. Just barely.

[Zubin Mehenti]

All right, NC State and this one. We got to start with Roddy because twice this week already he has basically channeled every NC State fan known to man waiting for NC State to turn the corner as they've been sitting there with the blinker on for like the last three years waiting to turn it. Haven't been able to turn it. Win total 7 1/2 over under for the pack. Roddy.

[Luke Wileman]

I'm not supposed to talk about NC State, Zubin. So I'm not going to talk about NC State while I tell you to hammer the over. This NC State team is going to be better than people think. Better on defense.

[Zubin Mehenti]

C.J.

[Luke Wileman]

bailey is like 6 foot 7 and he's going to be one of the best quarterbacks in the accident. Luke's talk about them.

[Tom Rinaldi]

They're going over line two Scheduling Gods is online. Two scheduling Gods online to look at that schedule, baby.

[Luke Wileman]

Beautiful.

[Tom Rinaldi]

Doesn't get any better better than that for NC State. But here's the thing, like I. Who's making this odds? I mean that that should have been like 8.5.

[Luke Wileman]

I agree.

[Jeff Brown]

Over.

[Tom Rinaldi]

Of course it's the over. I mean this is a, this is a 10 win roster in my opinion. But what they can't do is go out and look lose to people they're not supposed to. That's what's got to happen.

[Zubin Mehenti]

All right, guys, so it's been a great three day run for you at ACC media days. Appreciate you joining us. Coming up next week, it's SEC football media days, guys. You see the teams on the screen in our last half minute here. What's the biggest thing, Roddy, let's start with you that you're interested to see at SEC media days?

[Luke Wileman]

Well, honestly, it's John Matier's biceps after the pictures out of him at the Manning Passing Academy. The quarterback questions at a number of these schools, Tennessee being first on them. Who's going to play quarterback for the Bulls?

[Tom Rinaldi]

That's a great one. And I listen, what is Alabama from a quarterback perspective? Do they bring one of them? Do they bring both of them? Or will there not be a quarterback from Alabama in Tampa?

[Zubin Mehenti]

Great call and very savvy scheduling move. Kippen on the final day. Got to stay for it all. Have a great week. You know, when you're locked in, focused and fearless. Welcome to the wnba. Your vision narrows. You can't look away. Every assist, every stop, every logo, three

[Luke Wileman]

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[Zubin Mehenti]

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