March 13, 2026: SAVE America Act likely can't be saved; Summit FC kickoff; Bye-bye beloved Boulder bar

Summary

Colorado Matters – March 13, 2026: Episode Summary
Hosted by Ryan Warner and Chandra Thomas Whitfield | Colorado Public Radio

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of Colorado Matters dives into several pressing and noteworthy topics affecting Colorado:

• The future (and controversy) of the SAVE America Act and its threat to Colorado’s mail-in voting system
• The kickoff of the Denver Summit women’s soccer team
• The Oscar rise of Colorado native and Hollywood producer Sarah Murphy
• The tough season for cross-country ski resorts due to climate change
• The bittersweet closing of Boulder’s beloved Dark Horse bar

Throughout, the hosts keep a conversational, insightful tone, blending political analysis, personal stories, and community perspectives.

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Segment 1: The SAVE America Act & Colorado’s Election System

[00:04 – 08:36]

Key Points & Insights

• Context: The SAVE America Act, endorsed by President Trump, would require in-person proof of citizenship to register to vote and a photo ID to actually vote, threatening Colorado’s popular mail-in ballot system.
• Trump’s Demands: Trump wants the law to go further—effectively banning almost all mail-in voting (besides exceptions for illness, disability, military, or travel) and attaching unrelated issues such as restrictions on transgender athletes.
• Colorado’s Current System: Over 98% of Coloradans currently vote by mail, a process praised for its security, cost-effectiveness, and turnout.
• Implementation Hurdles: Changing to all in-person voting would require expensive, wide-reaching changes (more polling places, staffing, voter education). The Act doesn't provide federal funding for this upheaval.
• Lack of Voter Fraud Evidence: Repeatedly, courts and audits have found no significant fraud, despite Trump’s continued claims.

  “Trump lies about mail in voting, saying it leads to massive voter fraud. There’s no evidence of that. No courts, no audit has found it to be true.” — Ryan Warner [02:22]

• Constitutional Limits: The Constitution gives states power over their election systems, which limits what the President can do via executive order without congressional support.
• Political Calculations: The push is driven by a belief that tighter laws will help Republicans win the midterms, despite a lack of evidence this is effective—or even needed, as non-citizens cannot legally vote.
• Senate Prospects: Senate Majority Leader John Thune will bring the Act to the floor, but admits it doesn’t have enough votes to overcome the filibuster.

  “I can, I can’t guarantee an outcome on this legislation.” — John Thune [07:46]

• Potential for Disenfranchisement: Proving citizenship in person would bar millions who can’t easily access records like birth certificates or passports.

Notable Quotes

• “By any measure, cost, turnout, security, it’s a better way to vote. I’m frustrated and perplexed that it’s become such an issue.” — Sen. John Hickenlooper [03:47]
• "I believe about less than half the American population has a passport. They say [this bill] would unnecessarily disenfranchise people..." — Caitlin Kim [07:04]

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Segment 2: After-School Program Funding In Jeopardy

[08:36 – 13:32]

Key Points & Insights

• Budget Gap: Colorado lawmakers are considering slashing after-school funding to close an $850 million state budget gap.
• Benefits: Programs like chess, robotics, leadership, and arts improve attendance, boost test scores, and help parents keep jobs.
• Scope of Impact: Three-quarters of Colorado children who need after-school care can’t get it—350,000 kids.
• Cuts Would Hurt Families: Advocates argue cuts will deepen educational achievement gaps and economic strain, especially for working-class and mountain community families.
• Advocacy: Program directors and partners are fighting for continued support, highlighting economic and social ripple effects.

Notable Quotes

• “This is a must for all kids in Colorado to thrive.” — Kelly Streck, Colorado Afterschool Partnership [10:10]
• “If this didn’t exist, we would see a lot of families leaving our community after school. Childcare has a huge impact on women being able to work.” — Sofia Massaggiani, Project Dream [12:20]

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Segment 3: Denver Summit FC Kicks Off

[13:32 – 22:45]

Key Points & Insights

• Launch of the Team: Denver Summit is the newest NWSL franchise, debuting in San Jose against Bay Football Club; expectations are high and home opener at Mile High Stadium (March 28) is expected to break attendance records.
• Local Talent: Lindsey Heaps (formerly Horan), an Olympic and World Cup star, joins midseason, along with other prominent Coloradans like Ali Brazier.
• Ownership and Excitement: Ownership group includes Peyton Manning, Mikaela Shiffrin, and others—a sign of strong commitment from Colorado sports icons and grassroots groups.
• Legacy and Competition: Denver’s soccer roots run deep; landing the franchise was competitive, with cities like Cleveland and Cincinnati in the mix.
• NWSL’s Culture: The league is seen as tough, gritty, and ultra-competitive—a quality both Summit and hometown players embody.

Notable Quotes

• “Considering they signed Lindsay Heaps…they could be a contender for it all at the end.” — Melanie Anzideh, The Athletic [14:45]
• “Tough and grit are good ways to describe it.” — Melanie Anzideh, about the NWSL [16:41]
• “The fact that this team hasn’t even played a regular season match and is able to attract as many fans as they’ve already been able to attract to buy tickets…I think it says a lot.” — Melanie Anzideh [21:50]

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Segment 4: From Tap Dancing in Crested Butte to Hollywood Producer – Sarah Murphy

[22:45 – 39:04]

Key Points & Insights

• Background: Sarah Murphy almost became a professional tap dancer or astronaut, instead rising to become a prominent Hollywood producer.
• Oscar Buzz: Her film "One Battle After Another" is up for 13 Oscars, showcasing her ability to shepherd stories from inception to release.
• Producer’s Craft: Murphy describes producing as ensuring the director’s vision is supported from script to distribution—a high-pressure, collaborative, and creative job.
• Authenticity Matters: She emphasizes creating films that are emotionally honest and grounded in real people and places; for instance, drawing on real locations and communities in production.
• Mentorship: Worked closely with Philip Seymour Hoffman for a decade, shaping her understanding of performance and truth in filmmaking.
• Motherhood: Murphy reflects on balancing new motherhood with career demands, pointing to the need for Hollywood (and America) to better support women and integrating family and work.
• Personal Philosophy: She seeks projects she can defend “from start to finish” and feels filmmaking, with its ever-changing demands, is as challenging and rewarding as any childhood dream.

Notable Quotes

• “Stylistically, I’m a director’s producer, and I am there to support the vision of a director.” — Sarah Murphy [25:26]
• “Watching him [Philip Seymour Hoffman]…why Phil was so good…he seeked out emotional truth. And I think he didn’t stand for anything else.” — Sarah Murphy [33:09]
• “You fear that life is gonna pass you by, and I think I’ve realized that it’s only just become richer and...happier. Happier. I feel happy.” — Sarah Murphy [36:14]
• “When I take on a project, understanding that I will be with it for a long time and I want to be able to defend it from start to finish. It has to be something I’m emotionally connected to.” — Sarah Murphy [38:57]

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Segment 5: Climate Change Hits Cross-Country Skiing

[39:04 – 43:23]

Key Points & Insights

• Record Low Season: The region is experiencing its lowest snowpack on record—impacting cross-country spots like Eldora and Keystone Nordic Centers.
• Adaptations: Operators use “snow farming,” snow fences, and tech like snow-preserving blankets; limited resources make these options harder for smaller resorts.
• Personal Loss: Ellen Miller Goin, owner of Enchanted Forest ski area, shares the emotional weight of closing after 40 years due to climate-driven droughts—her parents’ legacy and her own dreams at stake.
• Broader Trend: The plight is emblematic of wider challenges for mountain communities as the climate warms.

Notable Quotes

• “My parents and I started this business 40 years ago and this is the worst winner in our history.” — Ellen Miller Goin [42:43]
• “I can’t even go up there without crying…” — Ellen Miller Goin [43:03]
• “Mother Nature is never going to have two years really this [bad] back.” — Jana Havlarti [42:26]

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Segment 6: The Closing of Boulder’s Dark Horse Bar

[43:38 – End]

Key Points & Insights

• Bittersweet Farewell: The world-famous Dark Horse is closing after 51 years, making way for CU student housing.
• Shared Memories: Former patrons and staff reminisce about quirky decor, community cleaning parties, and the sense of belonging across generations of CU Boulder students (“Buffs”).
• Cultural Loss: The Dark Horse wasn’t just a bar—it was a rite of passage and intergenerational community hub for Boulder.
• Uncertain Future: There’s talk the bar might relocate, but it’s unconfirmed; for now, old friends gather for one last night, reflecting on change and the passage of time.

Notable Quotes

• “It’s kind of a sports bar, but it’s kind of a neighborhood bar. It’s a place that’s comfortable for people as soon as they walk in the door.” — David Mays [44:44]
• “I just feel like it’s really sad that they’re knocking it down because not only is the Dark Horse like a Boulder staple, but also it brings together, like, generations of Buffs all together under the same room. It’s so rare.” — Sofia Massaggiani [46:19]
• “You can’t live in the glory days forever. Sometimes it’s okay to move on.” — Sydney Hernandez [47:24]

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Memorable Moments

• Ryan Warner fact-checking idioms: “It’s not cards. You don’t roll cards. It’s dice.” [24:03]
• Cheerful Closure: The segment ends with an impromptu sing-along to “Love Shack” by the B52s, a song with special karaoke memories for Dark Horse regulars. [47:34+]

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Takeaways

This episode encapsulates Colorado’s resilience, creativity, and sense of community through legislative battles, sporting dreams, personal journeys, and the bittersweet churn of local landmarks disappearing. The conversational, sometimes wistful tone connects the state’s present challenges with deeper questions of adaptation, authenticity, and memory.

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• SAVE America Act Analysis: 00:04 – 08:36
• After-School Program Funding: 08:36 – 13:32
• Denver Summit Soccer: 13:43 – 22:45
• Sarah Murphy, Hollywood Producer: 22:45 – 39:04
• Cross-Country Skiing & Climate: 39:04 – 43:23
• World Famous Dark Horse Closing: 43:38 – End

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For full context, tune in to Colorado Matters from March 13, 2026.

Transcript

[Ryan Warner]

The Save America act is supposed to ensure the integrity of your votes, but President Trump also wants it to eliminate mail in ballots, which are widely popular in Colorado. Perspective from our Washington reporter. Then the Denver Summit gets kickin' later. She grew up in Crested Butte, met Philip Seymour Hoffman in New York, and became a Hollywood producer.

[Sarah Murphy]

I take on a project understanding that I will be with it for a long time, and I want to be able to defend it from start to finish. It has to be something that I'm emotionally connected to.

[Ryan Warner]

Sarah Murphy's One battle after another is up for a slew of Oscars and closing time for a beloved Boulder bar.

[Caitlin Kim]

You know, it's kind of a sports bar, but it's kind of a neighborhood bar. It's a place that's comfortable for people as soon as they walk in the door.

[Ryan Warner]

It's Colorado Matters from CPR News and krcc. I'm Ryan Warner. Coloradans have voted by mail for more than a decade. President Trump wants to make it illegal. Can he? Let's head to Washington. Our correspondent there is Caitlin Kim. Hi, Caitlin.

[Jenny Thomas]

Hi, Ryan.

[Ryan Warner]

Trump issued an ultimatum at a House Republican policy conference this week having to do with what's called the Save America Act. And let's just not accept anything else. I'll tell you what, I'm willing to just sort of say I'm not going

[Caitlin Kim]

to sign anything until this is approved.

[Ryan Warner]

No other bill signed unless this comes to his desk. He made the same threat on social media last weekend. So let's start with what the act would do.

[Jenny Thomas]

So, Ryan, S.A.V.E. is an acronym for Safeguard American Voter Eligibility. And at its core, the Save America act would require voters to provide documents in person providing proof of citizenship when they register to vote and a photo ID when they actually do vote.

[Ryan Warner]

Okay. That's his present form. But President Trump wants to take it further.

[Jenny Thomas]

Right. He actually wants to add a few things into the bill, including no mail in ballots except in limited cases, illness, disability, military or travel. He also wants to tack on other non election related issues like more restrictions on trans athletes and children.

[Ryan Warner]

Trump lies about mail in voting, saying it leads to massive voter fraud. There's no evidence of that. No courts, no audit has found it to be true. Trump himself has won with mail in balloting. Caitlin?

[Jenny Thomas]

Yes, and I'd add it goes back to the 2020 election that he lost. But really, I think this push now with the Save America act is he's really looking towards the midterm elections. You know, he's pushed Republican states to engage in mid Cycle redistricting because he doesn't want Republicans to lose control in Congress. And during the House Republican retreat that you mentioned that took place earlier this week, Trump told lawmakers that election laws need to be toughened if Republicans want to win the midterms.

[Caitlin Kim]

It'll guarantee the midterms. It'll guarantee the midterms. If you don't get it, big trouble.

[Jenny Thomas]

I'd point out that historically the majority party that's in control, which in this case is the Republican Party, tends to lose seats in the midterm elections. And Trump thinks tougher voting laws are a way for Republicans to try to keep the majority. Now, that said, there's not actually evidence that making it harder to vote will help Republicans because non citizens are already barred from voting in federal elections and there's no evidence that they are voting in any large numbers. Look, what it boils down to, Ryan, is Coloradans like mail in voting. He here's Colorado Senator John Hickenlooper.

[Caitlin Kim]

By any measure, cost, turnout, security, it's a better way to vote. I'm frustrated and perplexed that it's become such an issue.

[Ryan Warner]

Trump is known for signing executive orders to change things. Why doesn't he do that in this case?

[Jenny Thomas]

The Constitution. Look, it says in the Constitution, states decide the time, the place, the manner of their elections. The now there is a clause after that that says Congress can also make laws regarding elections. The federal government could tell states they have to follow these rules, at least for elections that involve federal offices, because federal laws supersede state laws. All that said, this would also likely be challenged in court. But it does explain why the president is pushing so hard for Congress to do this, because he doesn't have the authority to mandate changes in how elections are run on his own. And you might remember that last year Trump did issue an executive order around elections, but that was challenged in courts and parts of it struck down. So yeah, if Congress tries to regulate federal elections, state laws would likely prevail when it comes to state and local races. So you can also see some difficulty in a very confusing situation for everyone. You know, voting in person for federal races, you know, presidential, Senate and House, but voting by mail for local races and ballot measures.

[Ryan Warner]

If Colorado wanted to change its voting system, what would that actually take?

[Jenny Thomas]

So Ryan, as you noted, Colorado adopted an all mail voting system in 2013 for so it's been in place for over a decade now. People can vote in person if they'd like, but most people utilize the mail balloting option. I spoke with Jenny Thomas, she's the unaffiliated route county clerk and recorder, where she says about 2% of her voters vote in person. The rest, you know, that's about 98%. Utilize, utilize voting by mail. She said a shift to more in person voting would require a lot of work. Counties would need to evaluate additional polling locations, additional staffing equipment, staff education, and you actually have to educate Colorado voters who again, have been voting by mail for well over a decade now. So, yeah, I think it would be a major lift to try and get it implemented in 2026, especially if the federal government doesn't provide any funding to implement the changes and cover the costs. The Save America act, as currently written, does not include funding for states. I also spoke with Justin Grantham, he's the Fremont county clerk and recorder, about what it would take to serve all those new people at vote centers.

[Sarah Murphy]

Now you're having to hire all those extra, additional judges. You're now going to have to find

[Aaron Sloan]

the buildings and rent the buildings, especially

[Ryan Warner]

if it's completely in person.

[Aaron Sloan]

And now you're going to have lines at the voting box.

[Sarah Murphy]

So big picture.

[Jenny Thomas]

Jenny Thomas, who is set to be president of the Colorado County Clerks association next year, says only between 2 to 8% of people statewide vote in person right now.

[Ryan Warner]

Back to the Save America Act. In a release Thursday, the White House characterized this as, quote, the most popular election reform in decades. As you said, it's already illegal for non citizens to vote in the United States. What is the nature of the resistance to proof of citizenship, though?

[Jenny Thomas]

So, yeah, on the surface, it seems like an easy request, right? But opponents say it would block millions of American citizens from voting because they can't readily access things like a birth certificate or a passport, for example. I believe about less than half the American population has a passport. They say it would unnecessarily disenfranchise people from participating in elections. I'd also point out elections officials already have access to databases to check if a person is a citizen or not when they register to vote. So people affirm they're a citizen when they register and elections officials check on the back end. Now, under the Save America act, you'd have to go in person to offer proof you're a citizen.

[Ryan Warner]

And where does the Save America act stand?

[Jenny Thomas]

So Senate Majority Leader John Thune plans to bring it to the floor of the Senate next week and have a lot of debate on the bill, including discussing the changes that Trump wants to it. But Thune also acknowledged the bill does not have enough votes to advance. He said as much on the Senate floor yesterday. Quote, I can, I can't guarantee an outcome on this legislation, unquote. But he plans to put Democrats on the record. You know, The Senate requires 60 votes to overcome the filibuster. Now, some Republicans have suggested changing the filibuster or, you know, to require a speaking filibuster when, which could tie up the Senate floor for weeks and possibly months and still not get the outcome that they want on the bill. Bethune also says there are not enough votes in his caucus to do that either, or just get rid of the filibuster entirely.

[Ryan Warner]

Caitlin, thanks so much. I know you'll keep us posted.

[Jenny Thomas]

Thank you, Ryan.

[Ryan Warner]

CPR's Caitlin Kim in Washington. After school funding could be slashed as state lawmakers close an $850 million budget gap. Advocates say the money boosts math scores, improves attendance and helps working families keep their heads above water. Here's CPR education reporter Jenny Brundeen There, check and mate.

[Jenny Brundeen]

Fourth and fifth graders hunch over chessboards. It's after school at Central elementary in Commerce City. The kids debate strategy with a little guidance.

[Sarah Murphy]

I want you to show you why he cannot move here. Yes, yes, you were right there. Okay, I'll move it.

[Jenny Brundeen]

The kids like Edemir tell me they love being here.

[Jenny Thomas]

I like chess because it's really fun

[Sarah Murphy]

and it help your brain.

[Jenny Brundeen]

There's not just chess after school. About 200 students here do robotics, leadership classes and art. And says 8 year old Fernanda, soccer,

[Sarah Murphy]

lego, stem spelling bee board games.

[Jenny Brundeen]

They also get help with math and reading. The programs are partly funded through a state academic accelerator grant, a three year, $8 million a year effort aimed at boosting math and STEM learning after the pandemic. But lawmakers on the budget committee are considering eliminating the final year. They're also weighing a 50% cut to a separate grant that supports community based after school programs. Kelly Streck, who directs the Colorado Afterschool Partnership, says that would leave thousands of families stranded.

[Melanie Anzideh]

This is a must for all kids in Colorado to thrive.

[Jenny Brundeen]

Last year, the accelerator program served more than 4,600 students across 53 sites. A legislative brief reports that three quarters of participants improved their math scores. More than a half of funded schools saw lower chronic absenteeism rates even as absenteeism rose statewide. But a legislative analyst recently said at a budget committee meeting she wasn't terribly impressed with the program's results.

[Sarah Murphy]

You know, it seems like if you wanted to just end the program early, you ought to be able to get $7 million, $8 million, something like that.

[Jenny Brundeen]

But advocates say that assessment misread the financial data by millions and underestimated the broader impact. A large body of evidence shows afterschool programs improve attendance, build social skills and confidence and boost grades.

[Melanie Anzideh]

Kelly Streck not only do their grades go up, but they make healthier choices both in what to do and not to do in terms of youth violence or vaping or alcohol use. As young adults, they have higher paying jobs and are more likely to pursue secondary education.

[Jenny Brundeen]

But beyond academics, there's the economic reality. In Colorado, three out of four children who need after school care can't get it. That's nearly 350,000 children. For those lucky enough to have a spot, it's often a major factor in keeping their parents employed. Matias Iriarte, who directs Central Elementary's after school program, says the programs help parents who need multiple jobs to survive.

[Ryan Warner]

Parents can better manage their work schedules.

[Sarah Murphy]

They can reduce their work stress. They can maintain and even expand their employment opportunities.

[Jenny Brundeen]

Still, one recent survey found that 42% of Colorado parents say they can't find programs in their communities. In mountain towns like Leadville, one federally funded program is what's keeping many parents working.

[Sofia Massaggiani]

Project Dream is the only option.

[Jenny Brundeen]

In Lake county, parents like Taylor Trelka were on pins and needles last year when the federal government froze program funds. Advocates and parents say shrinking state support adds pressure on a system already failing to meet demand.

[Sofia Massaggiani]

If this didn't exist, we would see a lot of families leaving our community after school. Childcare Childcare has a huge impact on women being able to work, so we're

[Jenny Thomas]

going to cut the stem, too, into that thickness.

[Jenny Brundeen]

Back at Central Elementary, a man from Sticky Fingers Cooking is teaching fractions and food safety through cooking tofu. Students measure pieces of broccoli and cubed tofu as they make a Thai stir fried noodle dish. 11 year old Jayla says knowing how

[Jenny Thomas]

to cook matters when you get older,

[Sofia Massaggiani]

then you'll know how to cook yourself instead of getting like fast food or

[Jenny Brundeen]

Program director Iriarte says classes like cooking mean more students are showing up for regular classes.

[Ryan Warner]

Attendance is increasing, academic achievement is increasing

[Kiara Damari]

and also the engagement of the students

[Sarah Murphy]

towards the school is increasing.

[Jenny Brundeen]

Colorado already ranks low in state funded after school investment compared to many other states, and advocates hope they can convince lawmakers to hang on to the little funding the state already has. A budget committee vote is expected within weeks. Jenny Brundeen, CPR News and we'll be

[Ryan Warner]

right back with a kickoff for the Denver Summit. This is Colorado Matters from CPR News. You're back with Colorado Matters from CPR News and krcc. I'm Ryan Warner.

[Sarah Murphy]

It's the biggest night in women's soccer as two of the country's hottest teams

[Jenny Thomas]

and some of its greatest stars compete for the 2025 NWSL championship. For these players, this moment has been

[Ryan Warner]

a lifetime in the making. That is from the start of the 2025 National Women's Soccer League championship game. And those words a lifetime in the making could easily apply to the women taking the pitch tomorrow night. The Denver Summit, the newest NWSL franchise, kicks off from the Athletic. Soccer correspondent Melanie Anzideh is on the line. Hi, Melanie.

[Melanie Anzideh]

Hi. Thanks for having me.

[Ryan Warner]

Gotham FC won that championship match at Paypal park in San Jose. Incidentally, that's where the Summit's debut is against Bay Football Club. You know, Summit ownership insists that Denver is a 2026 contender. Is that just bluster?

[Melanie Anzideh]

Normally I would say yes, but considering they signed Lindsay Heaps, who's going to be joining, you know, mid season, you never know what's going to happen. So I actually think that they could be a contender for it all at the end.

[Ryan Warner]

Lindsay Heaps, formerly Lindsay Horan, gosh, she played in Europe after graduating Golden High School, went on to great acclaim in the Olympics and the World Cup. So you have a lot of faith in her?

[Melanie Anzideh]

I do. I also have a lot of faith just in the team itself because I do think they have built something in Denver just on the pitch. A veteran corps of people with experience in the nwsl, some exciting up and coming players. And I think a player like Lindsey Heaps coming at the time she does, might be the necessary playoff push that could kind of help the team, you know, at the perfect time. They're lucky with that.

[Ryan Warner]

Heaps is finishing her season in Europe, playing in Lyon, France and not arriving stateside until June. And she's one of five Coloradans who will play for the Summit this season. Any other locals stand out to you?

[Melanie Anzideh]

Well, I have a soft spot for Ali Brazier, formerly Ali Watts. She was Denver's Summit's or at the time, NWSL Denver's first signing ever. So I think she'll always have a soft spot for me because she'll always hold such a a big, sentimental spot for Denver Summit, especially when you think about the legacy that they're trying to build there, for sure.

[Ryan Warner]

What kind of player is she?

[Melanie Anzideh]

She's an exciting one. I mean, we haven't seen much of Denver yet, and it's really hard to Say much with watching the preseason games that we've had opportunities to get a glimpse of. But, you know, she was the first assist for the first goal for Denver. She was a key player for Orlando Pride when she was there, you know, a favorite. The team were sad to see her go, but I think she brings with her, you know, that Colorado it factor, but also just the NWSL factor of just being someone who is tough, gritty.

[Ryan Warner]

You think there's something inherently tough and gritty about this league?

[Melanie Anzideh]

I do think so. I mean, anytime you talk to someone who's playing their first game in the league, there's always this welcome to the NWSL moment. So I'm excited to hear kind of what these Denver Summit players say. What is their welcome to the NWSL moment for the club. It's a very competitive league, every single game. You never know who's going to win. So with all of that in mind, I do think tough and grit are good ways to describe it.

[Ryan Warner]

Colorado has long been an epicenter for women's soccer. We've spoken already of some of the hometown talent. So having a team here feels like a no brainer. But bringing one involved secret meetings, shutting out women's sports icon Caitlin Clark, who was part of another investor group trying to win a franchise. I mean, that's not something you see every day, is it, Melanie?

[Jenny Brundeen]

No.

[Melanie Anzideh]

It's funny when you think about Denver, they came, I'm imagining a race and them kind of being steadily behind and then towards the last sprint, coming out front against all the other people who you thought were maybe more shoe ins for the team. But I will say the Denver Summit or NWSL Denver at the time played it really well. I think what works for them is that like you said, it's such a hotbed for soccer, for the sport. I think because there was already this proven momentum with this grassroots effort groups led by Jordan Angeli, who's, you know, a very popular voice in the nwsl, former professional player. You know, having that momentum from people on the ground, bringing this vision of an NWSL team there, I think that was probably what stood out the most. Especially just grabbing not only the attention of the nwsl, but the attention of Rob Cohen, you know, making sure that they saw that there's real momentum and real potential in the city.

[Ryan Warner]

You're speaking there to some of the enthusiasm here and certainly the own, the ownership group reflects that very much. I mean, you've got a Manning among them.

[Melanie Anzideh]

Definitely a Manning. You have so many impressive high level athletes. Mikayla Shifrin Another one, you know, just a lot of former athletes, current athletes with deep ties to Colorado. But also, I'll give my flowers to Rob Cohen to, you know, the majority owner. I think he brings a lot, and he's probably one of the main reasons why the NWSL took Denver Summit very seriously when they did.

[Ryan Warner]

The Manning, by the way, is Peyton. Just in case anyone had questions. Just because I want to feel holier than thou. What were the other cities vying for? A team that didn't get one and Denver did.

[Melanie Anzideh]

Cleveland and Cincinnati were the two that were kind of towards the end there, you thought it was going to be headed to Ohio, but then, of course, Denver, I would say they were the quieter of the three at the time. You know, they didn't really put out much information. It was very behind the scenes, very close to the chest, while other potential ownership groups were, you know, putting out more press releases, things like that. But when you think now, you know, we might see a team in Ohio for team number 18, so more to come on that end.

[Ryan Warner]

Take that, Cleveland and Cincinnati. I used to live in Dayton, so I can make fun of Ohio. I want to go back to Lindsay Heaps, Indeed, formerly Lindsay Horan. Her career arc, moving to Europe as a teen and playing professionally there. I mean, that's been quite a trip, hasn't it?

[Melanie Anzideh]

Absolutely. And I think that's why the announcement that she would be coming home was so special. She's someone who created her own path in women's soccer and professional soccer. Like you said, going to Europe when she did, when most people were probably still going to college, deciding to come back because that was in her best interest, to play for the U.S. women's National Team, which is what she has said in the past, making the Olympic roster, becoming the athlete she was with the national team. So now to see kind of the full circle moment of her coming back to Denver, where it all started, and to be playing alongside, you know, some of the girls that she grew up playing with at the club youth level. Um, it's a really exciting time for her, I'm sure, for her family and really for any American soccer fans. Kind of always hoping Lindsey Heaps would be the marquee signing, or at least one of the marquee signings for Denver.

[Ryan Warner]

Yeah, that game mid season is going to be raucous. My goodness. Okay, we mentioned the Summit begins play Saturday in San Jose, first of three matches that are on the road before the home opener at Mile High, March 28. That game's expected to set an all Time attendance record for the league. Can you put this moment into some context for us, Melanie? What does it say about the, the import of this moment?

[Melanie Anzideh]

Wow. It's. I think when we're there and we see the atmosphere, you know, through the television screens or whether you're there in

[Sarah Murphy]

person, are you gonna be there?

[Ryan Warner]

I wanna know, are you gonna be there in person?

[Melanie Anzideh]

I mean, if my editor is listening, I would love to be there. I would love to be there.

[Ryan Warner]

Okay, absolutely.

[Melanie Anzideh]

But we will. The Athletic will definitely be there, whether it's me, whether it's someone else. But the fact that this team hasn't even played a regular season match and is able to attract as many fans as they've already been able to attract to buy tickets, I think it says a lot, just about the excitement in Denver, but also, you know, overall, just the excitement of women's sports, you know, women's soccer. Coming to a city that's craving a professional level game like this. It's going to be one of those, I guess, temple moments. If you could, about the potential for the nwsl, the potential for sports. I think it'll just be one of many to come, you know, and I think it's going to be a great, great, great day.

[Ryan Warner]

And of course, Mile High is just where they're starting out as a pitch. A stadium is under construction. Will be soon.

[Melanie Anzideh]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Ryan Warner]

Melanie, thanks so much for sharing your thoughts with us.

[Melanie Anzideh]

Thanks for having me.

[Ryan Warner]

Melanie Anzideh covers soccer for the Athletic. And Colorado Matters continues in the next half hour with how a tap dancer from Crested Butte became an Oscar nominated producer. I'm Ryan Warner, you're with CPR News and krcc. It's Colorado Matters. From CPR News and krcc, I'm Ryan Warner. Growing up in Crested Butte, Sarah Murphy had two become professional tap dancer or an astronaut. Neither panned out, but she became a top Hollywood producer. So we're gonna let it slide. Murphy joined us from her home in Los Angeles. Hi, Sarah.

[Sarah Murphy]

Hi, how are you? Thank you for having me.

[Ryan Warner]

Oh, you're very welcome. So you are nominated for Oscars. Thirteen of them. For one battle after another.

[Caitlin Kim]

For bringing justice to the vigilante group known as the French 75. We are here to award Stephen Lockjaw with the Medal of Honor.

[Ryan Warner]

You have to understand, Will love

[Sarah Murphy]

me.

[Caitlin Kim]

And mom used to run around and do some real bad. They got hurt. Now they're coming after us.

[Sofia Massaggiani]

I'm sorry, I didn't ask for this. That's just how the cards were rolled out for me.

[Ryan Warner]

It's not cards. You don't roll cards. It's dice.

[Sarah Murphy]

Dad, what is wrong with you?

[Ryan Warner]

This is your newest film, a comedy action thriller starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Sean Penn, among others. I'm curious if you craft awards speeches ahead of time. Do you have your Oscars acceptance speech ready?

[Sarah Murphy]

No, I fear that may jinx it. But I do have a long list of people to thank should I have the opportunity.

[Ryan Warner]

You know, I think it always amazes me how many people it takes to make a film. There are towns in America smaller than film crews.

[Sarah Murphy]

That is true, yeah. It's entirely collaborative all the way from the beginning of developing a script and building a production all the way through to marketing and distribution of a film. It's pretty massive endeavor.

[Ryan Warner]

You were on stage clutching a trophy at the Golden Globes when one battle after another won Best Picture. And you know, that award is viewed really in showbiz as a producer's prize because you, as a producer, have your fingerprints on almost every single aspect of a movie. Do you have an elevator pitch down to explain to people what a movie producer does?

[Sarah Murphy]

I don't know that it's an effective one. I think my mother's still confused as to what I actually do. I, stylistically, am a director's producer, and I am there to support the vision of a director. So I'm, you know, I can step into a project in various stages, but I like to come in at the very beginning and really understand the script and the plan for how it wants to be executed so that I can help build it properly in support of the creative and make sure that we're getting all the locations and the actors that we need and the crew members that we need to support how we're going to shoot it, but also placing it in the hands, you know, of a distributor and a home that's going to support it from start all the way through to the end.

[Ryan Warner]

Whoa. So you're thinking with this title of both location and distribution.

[Sarah Murphy]

Yes, at the same time.

[Jenny Brundeen]

Wow.

[Ryan Warner]

Wow.

[Sarah Murphy]

We're, you know, as producers, I think having your fingerprints on a lot of it is a good way to explain it, but it's more. It's also about duration and endurance in terms of making sure that you see the film through so that obviously we're making it for an audience. I think you have an audience in mind when you start the film and then you want to ensure that it lands with that audience at the end.

[Ryan Warner]

There was a turn of phrase you used that I loved. It was kind of anthropomorphizing a script. It was saying, what does the script want? It almost made me think that you see scripts as living, breathing things to some extent.

[Sarah Murphy]

I think they are to some degree, just because they are evolving with the realities of the circumstances of making it in terms of who you bring on to help make it, where you decide to shoot it, the actors and their styles and what they're gonna bring to the table.

[Ryan Warner]

What's your single favorite task or role?

[Sarah Murphy]

Oh, man, that's interesting question. You know, I love all stages of it actually genuinely seem at some point overwhelming. But I do love being in the edit. The editorial process, I think is a magical thing to be able to witness. And seeing an editor and a director sort of rewrite, recreate the story. Whether it matches the script or they're turning it into something new. It's like the, you know, almost a rebirth of the film itself.

[Ryan Warner]

Oh, my goodness. There's so many powerful choices that can be made in the edit suite that you can actually change the nature of a project. And what would your role be at that point then?

[Sarah Murphy]

I mean, at that point, it depends on the relationship with the director at times. Sometimes you're giving notes, sometimes you're helping clarify things that they wanted to achieve in the script, answering their questions, you know, making sure that they are on task in terms of what their goals were and hoping to from a third party or an outside perspective, see if they're achieving them.

[Ryan Warner]

You get to play to some extent, someone with a little bit of distance, maybe they're too close to it.

[Sarah Murphy]

You know, sometimes that's good to be as close. But yes, I am a voice that's a little bit outside there.

[Ryan Warner]

The making of this film in particular involved some extra work for you. I understand you went to a high school prom and visited a homeless encampment. Would you share some of those experiences?

[Sarah Murphy]

In this particular film, Paul was very interested in exploring and finding and sort of incorporating real life locations.

[Ryan Warner]

And this is Paul Thomas Anderson, the director.

[Sarah Murphy]

That's right. He and his production designer and his location manager have been traveling around mostly all of California and a little bit of Texas for years before we even shot. To really let the sort of authenticity of this world and the locations that we were finding kind of seep into the script a little bit. And we also wanted to use and work with the communities that we were finding ourselves in. So we did explore a local high school in Eureka, California.

[Ryan Warner]

Way up north. Yeah, almost to the Oregon line.

[Sarah Murphy]

Exactly. The school was super welcoming of us using their location and Then we also, you know, sent our background casting and our casting director, Cassandra Kulukundas, in to cast a whole bunch of students to be in the film, as well as background actors, actors and principal actors, which was fun and I think gave it, you know, a touch of what real life looks like in Eureka, which was the goal, but also to embrace the community that we were in so as to not feel so invasive, but more collaborative.

[Ryan Warner]

And what about this homeless encampment?

[Sarah Murphy]

It was more of a sanctuary facility in El Paso near the border, some churches and a couple of detention centers that we did visit for the purposes of understanding how those spaces worked and how the people moved in and out of them. It was more exploratory. And we didn't actually shoot in those spaces. Those felt a little bit, obviously, more intimate, private. But we did aim to recreate some of those in the script.

[Ryan Warner]

Yeah. What an interesting question, right? I mean, film as art can open our eyes to different walks of life or different predicaments or different spaces. And that's important.

[Sarah Murphy]

Yeah.

[Ryan Warner]

But it's also a question of exploitation. It's a question of taste. You know, is this in good taste? I mean, that's a tough balance.

[Sarah Murphy]

Yeah, always. I think many filmmakers that I'm working with are often, you know, absorbing and soaking in the world around them, and I think in order to appropriately represent them on film. That being said, you know, I think for Paul in particular, in one battle, I think his primary goal in that is always going to be focused around the core relationship between Leonardo DiCaprio's story and Jason Finney's story and that father daughter story. So I think not to get too distracted by real life, by the locations, but to make sure that the core thread and thrust of the film is on track.

[Ryan Warner]

You've been a movie producer for 20 years now. Fifteen films, four music videos, and more than a dozen awards and nominations on your resume. Briefly, how does one take the giant leap from the tap dancing stage in out of the Way Crested Butte to that rarefied realm of filmmaking?

[Sarah Murphy]

You know, I very much fell into it. I actually. I went to University of Washington to study engineering, and I. I got weeded out there. I moved to New York City to tap dance and I got weeded out there. Just sort of finding my way as a young woman does. I fell into a job, actually, my senior year of college in New York with Philip Seymour Hoffman, and at the time I didn't know anything really about theater or film and was very lucky to have the education of having worked with him for 10 years. So I learned a lot about not only filmmaking and producing, but also acting and what it is to act and to understand the difficulties and vulnerabilities of that profession. But it was. Yeah, it was an incredible education.

[Ryan Warner]

I miss him so much, and I didn't. I didn't know him. In what scenario does he most pop into your head with some, you know, sage advice from your time together?

[Sarah Murphy]

It's a great question. You know, I think why Phil was so good as an actor is that he seeked out emotional truth. And I think he didn't stand for anything else. You know, I think he could connect with people emotionally in ways that others and many of us are too scared to do. I think that makes you very vulnerable and beautiful. So watching him and sort of seeing him do it was inspiring. And I think, you know, looking at performances now and looking for that. That hint of truth there is always in the gut as to what feels right when you. When you're watching a film.

[Ryan Warner]

Yeah, that has really seeped through all of your answers. This thirst for authenticity in the actors, in the locations, in the script. So I really feel that from you. You were initially his associate producer in a film called Jack Goes Boating. You've done a lot of work with director Paul Thomas Anderson. He gave you a shout out when One Battle After Another won Best Picture at the Critics Choice Awards. You couldn't be there because you just given birth to your first child, who I think is what, like, eight weeks now?

[Sarah Murphy]

Eight weeks exactly. Eight weeks.

[Ryan Warner]

How in the world did you have time to have a baby in the whirlwind of making a major movie? And just like, just to remind people you have responsibilities on the butt end of a movie, it doesn't end just because the shooting stops.

[Sarah Murphy]

No, it's true. But I feel like that's, you know, I. Watching many women around me do it every day and feeling like I had waited for the perfect moment for so long that I was about to wait myself out of the moment. So, you know, I went for it, and I'm obviously so glad I did. But I think the world sort of bends around you in ways that you fear it won't. And, you know, everybody I've been working with and sort of the community at large has been so wonderful and generous during this time. It's been very warm and very grateful for what I do and the people that I am working with.

[Ryan Warner]

Is there something Hollywood needs to change about its approach to new moms, do you think?

[Sarah Murphy]

I mean, I think just in general, Maybe it's America at large. I wish we did encourage more of a maternity leave. I do wish there was more time. But you know what? I think also welcoming them into the community as opposed to, like, insisting on a separation of family and work life. I think integrating it is more the way we all have to kind of live our lives.

[Ryan Warner]

I am struck by you saying you were waiting for the perfect moment and then realized that might never come and that you didn't anticipate the ways that the world you're in might bend to life with a baby.

[Sarah Murphy]

I couldn't have expected it. I think you fear that life is gonna pass you by, and I think I've realized that it's only just become richer and. Yeah. Happier. Happier. I feel happy.

[Ryan Warner]

Oh, I'm so glad. Okay. I wanna circle back to those childhood aerospace dreams. So you do find yourself among stars. Just different ones, I guess. Do you ever gaze into the sky and think, maybe I should have gone there instead?

[Sarah Murphy]

I mean, there are moments every day as you're reading the news where I definitely feel that way.

[Ryan Warner]

That you want to slip the earthly bounds. Is that what I hear?

[Sarah Murphy]

Exactly. Just be a little further away.

[Ryan Warner]

Yeah.

[Sarah Murphy]

But no, you know, I feel like, although I wasn't what I originally thought I was going to do, it feels equally as, well, different, I guess, in its challenges. But, you know, something about filmmaking every day is that it changes. Every film is different. Every. You know, the needs change depending on the filmmaker and the script and the world that you're building. And so every day you're faced with kind of an enormous new set of skills that you must develop, and that's. I'm sort of thirsty for that kind of experience. And it keeps you going.

[Ryan Warner]

Yeah, it's a mission of sorts.

[Sarah Murphy]

It is, it is.

[Ryan Warner]

Do you like watching movies? Like, people ask me a lot if I like listening to podcasts, for instance, or radio. And it always feels a bit like a bus man's holiday to me because I'm thinking, I would have done this differently or, that's really good. How come I've never thought of that? Do you sit back and just watch movies and enjoy them?

[Sarah Murphy]

You know, I do. I love the movies. I think that's maybe why it became a good fit for me in terms of this profession. But I. Things are about to change. But before this baby, I did go to the movies three or four times a week. I think it's such an incredible, cathartic experience to watch a film in the theater with an audience. It's a joy. It's a privilege. It's also eye opening, challenging, I don't know, helpful. It's a psychological exercise, I think. It's, you know, film can do many things. Which is also why I think, you know, when I take on a project, I'm sort of understanding that I will be with it for a long time and I want to be able to defend it from start to finish. It has to be something that I'm sort of emotionally connected to. So that's what I seek out when I go to movies, too. But I love them.

[Ryan Warner]

Sarah, thank you so much for your time. I can't imagine you have much of it, so I'm grateful for it.

[Sarah Murphy]

Thank you so much for having me. It's been lovely to chat with you.

[Ryan Warner]

Crested Butte native Sarah Murphy produced One Battle After Another. It's up for 13 Oscars this weekend. Still to come, a slog for cross country skiers and a dark horse rides off into the sunset. This is Colorado Matters from CPR News. You're with Colorado Matters from CPR News. I'm Ryan Warner. Paltry precipitation and record warmth mean this is the worst ski season in decades. And not just downhill cpr. Sam Brash finds cross country spots are

[Aaron Sloan]

struggling Aaron Sloan manages the Eldora Nordic center above Boulder. He knows what it should look like. By late winter, people lined up out the door, waiting for their chance to slide or skate around 20 miles of forested trails all blanketed in white.

[Ryan Warner]

Did not ever, ever dream that the

[Caitlin Kim]

obstacle would be just this level of dirt on the ground instead of snow.

[Aaron Sloan]

The center, usually open, opens before Christmas. This year, only a few trails opened to season pass holders in early February. That alone required grueling work from Noah Hibberd, who spends his days shoveling snow patches from the woods onto the trails.

[Jenny Thomas]

Obviously, we'd like to do more than

[Caitlin Kim]

that, but just covering up brown spots is better than not.

[Aaron Sloan]

Brown spots are all over the western US this year. NASA satellites show snow coverage likely peaked at around 40% of average in February. That's the lowest coverage on record. At the Aldora Nordic center, elbow grease is the only real way to fight

[Jenny Thomas]

back, just one shovel full after the next.

[Aaron Sloan]

Downhill ski areas are already grappling with climate change to adapt to warmer, drier winters. Resorts have open terrain at higher elevations and invested in advanced snowmaking systems. That's not always an option for smaller cross country areas, says Reese Brown, the executive director of the Cross Country Ski Areas Association.

[Jenny Thomas]

Alpine gets most of the conversation, but it affects cross country, probably more so with the fluctuations in snow, drought Brown

[Aaron Sloan]

says Nordic resorts can cope by mastering the art of snow farming. They can build snow fences to create drifts in strategic places, remove rocks to make trails skiable with less snow, even use high tech blankets to store snow over the summer.

[Jenny Thomas]

So I do, I do think there's a future. It's just going to be a little different.

[Aaron Sloan]

That's why some resort operators aren't giving up, hopefully. After immigrating from the Czech Republic, Jana Havlarti skied for the 1976 U.S. olympic Cross country team. Today she runs the Keystone Nordic center in Colorado, and she's still skiing at 84 years old.

[Sarah Murphy]

I had all kinds of surgeries in my body, but I had always great

[Jenny Thomas]

surgeons and I really don't feel that

[Sarah Murphy]

I have titanium parts.

[Aaron Sloan]

Havlarti and her titanium parts have still managed to ski this year. It's just meant lots of laps back and forth through snow slush. But she's confident better conditions will return along with more casual skiers ready to buy day passes.

[Sarah Murphy]

It's going to come back.

[Jenny Thomas]

Mother Nature is never going to have

[Sarah Murphy]

two years really this back.

[Aaron Sloan]

But this season might be the end of the road for Enchanted Forest, a cross country ski area outside of Taos, N.M. co owner Ellen Miller Goin says she hasn't been able to open at all.

[Jenny Thomas]

My parents and I started this business 40 years ago and this is the worst winner in our history.

[Aaron Sloan]

Miller Goin's parents died four years ago, four days apart. She took over. But a string of poor winters has the business on the ropes. It's a situation she sees as a direct result of climate change.

[Jenny Thomas]

I can't even go up there without crying, and I'm probably gonna cry on you now. It's just wrapped up with the pain of them and our dream.

[Caitlin Kim]

So I get a little brittle when

[Jenny Thomas]

we talk about climate science because I'm kind of angry.

[Aaron Sloan]

Angry that anyone would doubt the reality of rising global temperatures even as it bears down on her family legacy and other cross country resorts all across the West. I'm Sam Brash, CPR News Nothing smarts

[Ryan Warner]

quite like losing a hangout. For Cara Di Mari of Denverite, it's the world famous dark horse in Boulder. World famous is in the actual name. She went for one last drink and filed this audio essay.

[Kiara Damari]

I'm 23 and starting to realize just how quickly the world moves on. They're demolishing the world famous dark horse. The bar will mark its 51st birthday and its closing at the same time on Saturday. For me and my college friends, the horse is Special.

[Sofia Massaggiani]

This was the first bar I ever went to, and it was karaoke night, and I just saw it in all its glory.

[Kiara Damari]

Sofia Massaggiani lived down the street from the Horse when we attended CU Boulder,

[Sofia Massaggiani]

and I felt really inspired. I sang Love Shack by B52.

[Kiara Damari]

Most nights at the Horse, a man named David Mays sat at the bar. He is one of my favorite people. We worked together at another bar, and not to brag, but we were named Boulder's best bartenders back to back. David worked at the Horse in the late 70s for a while, and it's his favorite bar.

[Caitlin Kim]

I mean, I've been coming here a long time, and I know a lot of people here, but I think everybody's comfortable here. You know, it's kind of a sports bar, but it's kind of a neighborhood bar. It's a place that's comfortable for people as soon as they walk in the door.

[Kiara Damari]

The night we reconnected, David sat next to his friend Mike, though I didn't catch his last last name.

[Ryan Warner]

Character of the place, too.

[Sarah Murphy]

Just all the stuff. I mean, I've been coming here for 32 years, and I look up at the ceiling. I say, I never noticed that before.

[Kiara Damari]

Every inch of the ceiling is covered Here to explain is my friend Annie Arnold.

[Sarah Murphy]

I don't even know where to begin. Just picture every object you could possibly picture and then picture it up on the ceiling. There's wheels. They're in motion. Some of them aren't. Like there's vehicles.

[Caitlin Kim]

There's stuff everywhere, and it collects dust. So back in the day, we used to have these cleaning parties. So the law in Colorado way a thousand years ago was that the bars had to close on Sundays at midnight. So we'd have cleaning parties on Sundays. So the whole staff would come in, and then we cleaned the whole place. We'd start at the very top, all the stuff hanging over the dance floor, and we climb up in there because it's all hanging by steel cables, and we dust it all down, and then you kind of it dust all the way down, and then all the way down the walls, down the stairs, and then everything's on the floor. And then the cleaning crew would come through and clean the whole floor. And that's how you clean a place. But it was fun. It was like a family. I mean, we all cleaned the place all together.

[Kiara Damari]

The horses owners don't own the land, and the folks who do sold it to CU, with the exception of a newly renovated McDonald's, the blocks becoming student housing.

[Sofia Massaggiani]

I just feel like it's really sad that they're knocking it down because not only is the Dark Horse like a Boulder staple, but also it brings together, like, generations of buffs all together under the same room. It's so rare. I feel like this is, like, such a great way to connect with people, like, of different generations of different classes. What other place in Boulder do we have for now?

[Kiara Damari]

There is a rumor going around that the Dark Horse will relocate, but it's yet to be confirmed. So my friends and I treated this as the final goodbye.

[Sofia Massaggiani]

I just. It doesn't feel like I should be leaving this place. It's the way that they're. They're cleaning up all this stuff. They're putting the stools on the tables. They're wiping on the counters. They're saying, get the hell out of here. It makes it feel all the more real. But as sad as it is, maybe

[Sarah Murphy]

it's a sign for all of us.

[Kiara Damari]

That's Sydney Hernandez. She hopped on the bus with me from Union Station to Boulder for this last hurrah.

[Sarah Murphy]

You can't live in the glory days forever. Sometimes it's okay to move on.

[Caitlin Kim]

Long live the Dark Horse.

[Kiara Damari]

I'm Kiara Damari, Denverite.

[Sarah Murphy]

Love Chat is a little place where we can get together. Love Shack, baby. Love Chat, baby. Love Shack, baby. Love Shack. Love Shack, baby. Love Shack.

[Ryan Warner]

Love Shack, baby.

[Sarah Murphy]

Love.

[Ryan Warner]

That's where it's at. And it's closing time for us. But we're back Monday with this same crew. Sandy batulga, tyler bender, carl bielek, anthony

[Jenny Thomas]

cotton, pete kramer, andrea dukakis, zan huckpechone,

[Ryan Warner]

matt herz, tom house, michael hughes, pedro

[Jenny Thomas]

lumbrano, shane rumsey, haley sanchez, chandra.

[Sarah Murphy]

Thomas whitfield.

[Ryan Warner]

And I'm ryan warner. With special thanks to nancy lovholm. Tin roof rusted at cpr news and krcc,

[Sarah Murphy]

baby.