You Are So President Taft

Summary

Podcast Summary: Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend – Episode: "You Are So President Taft"

Release Date: December 12, 2024

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Introduction

In this episode of Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend, Conan engages with Eloise, a dynamic individual from Manila, Philippines. Eloise is a relationship and life coach, the country's first openly trained soccer player, and a dedicated healer within the trans and autistic communities. The conversation delves into her community work, Conan's attempts to connect with and understand the LGBTQ+ community, and the humorous challenges that arise from cultural and linguistic differences.

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Guest Introduction: Eloise's Background

[02:46 - 03:07]

Conan introduces Eloise, who shares her personal and professional background:

• Eloise:
  "My name is Eloise. My pronouns are she, her. I'm calling from Manila in the Philippines. I am kind of like a healer in my community. So I'm a relationship and life coach. And I'm also my country's first openly trained soccer player."

Notable Quote:
Conan [03:07]:
"Wow, that's fantastic. And you say you're a healer as well, so you can help people. Maybe you could help me, please."

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Community Involvement and Events

[04:00 - 05:24]

Eloise discusses her involvement in organizing events for the trans and autistic communities:

• Eloise:
  "Me and my fiancé, we like to throw events for our local trans and autistic community. We throw little parties. We're doing an autistic friendly drag event."

These events focus on fostering connections and providing support within the community.

Notable Quote:
Eloise [04:00]:
"We throw little parties. We're doing an autistic friendly drag event. And what do we do? I play a lot of soccer and I've been eating a lot of pizza lately."

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Conan’s Attempt to Integrate: Learning Slang and References

[08:10 - 10:23]

Conan seeks Eloise’s guidance to better connect with the LGBTQ+ community by learning relevant slang and cultural references:

• Eloise:
  "You can say it's giving and then you make a reference at the end of that. And you can use that to like when you're like giving someone a compliment or if you want to be passive aggressive."

Conan humorously attempts to incorporate these phrases, leading to a playful exchange about the authenticity of his usage.

Notable Quote:
Conan [09:28]:
"I think you would be a good addition to the LGBT community. I'm not a certified representative, but I think we could use a little bit of Conan."

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Humor and Cultural References: Reality TV and Slang

[10:31 - 11:39]

The conversation shifts to integrating reality TV show references into everyday slang:

• Eloise:
  "Like, it's giving view to a kill scene."

• Conan:
  "Slay right back to you. Slay."

They discuss how specific and sometimes obscure references can aid in blending into the community, leading to humorous attempts by Conan to catch on.

Notable Quote:
Conan [10:12]:
"You are so President Taft and selling the oc. I don't need this right now. Do you know what I mean?"

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Navigating Autism and Literal Interpretations

[21:07 - 22:50]

Eloise opens up about her experience with autism and how it affects interactions:

• Eloise:
  "I have some guesses, I think. Don't be rude."

Conan reflects on his perception and Eloise shares insights into how literal interpretations can impact communication within autistic communities.

Notable Quote:
Eloise [21:24]:
"I think, like, with autistic people, Conan can be a big hit. Are sometimes amiss, because we have maybe issues of taking people very literally."

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Upcoming Community Events and Collaboration

[25:03 - 26:34]

Eloise outlines upcoming events aimed at promoting healthy masculinity and femininity within the trans community, including providing haircuts and fostering open discussions:

• Eloise:
  "We are doing some event for trans women and trans men. We're doing one for men where we talk about healthy masculinity... and we also give people hope."

Conan expresses his appreciation and willingness to participate, adding his characteristic humor to the planning.

Notable Quote:
Conan [25:33]:
"I was just hoping at one point there's alcohol involved, you know, going to a club or something. But yes, I like those. I think what you're doing sounds very cool and very healthy."

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Closing Remarks and Mutual Appreciation

[26:07 - 26:40]

The episode concludes with mutual appreciation between Conan and Eloise. Conan acknowledges the positive impact Eloise has had on him, both humorously and sincerely.

Notable Quote:
Conan [26:07]:
"Eloise, it was a good way. Eloise, it was very nice talking to you and you are very funny. You seem very funny and very cool and I do believe you're a healer because I've had fun talking to you and you have healed me. So what do you think of that?"

Eloise [26:27]:
"That's great. Yeah, I think that'll be $250."

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Conclusion

In "You Are So President Taft," Conan O’Brien navigates the intricacies of connecting with Eloise and, by extension, the trans and autistic communities in the Philippines. Through humor, earnest attempts to learn, and genuine curiosity, the episode highlights the challenges and rewards of building meaningful connections across diverse communities. Eloise’s insights and community work provide a heartfelt dimension to the conversation, embodying the podcast's mission of forging real and lasting friendships.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Conan [03:07]:
  "Wow, that's fantastic. And you say you're a healer as well, so you can help people. Maybe you could help me, please."

• Eloise [04:00]:
  "We throw little parties. We're doing an autistic friendly drag event. And what do we do? I play a lot of soccer and I've been eating a lot of pizza lately."

• Conan [09:28]:
  "I think you would be a good addition to the LGBT community. I'm not a certified representative, but I think we could use a little bit of Conan."

• Conan [10:12]:
  "You are so President Taft and selling the oc. I don't need this right now. Do you know what I mean?"

• Eloise [21:24]:
  "I think, like, with autistic people, Conan can be a big hit. Are sometimes amiss, because we have maybe issues of taking people very literally."

• Conan [26:07]:
  "Eloise, it was a good way. Eloise, it was very nice talking to you and you are very funny. You seem very funny and very cool and I do believe you're a healer because I've had fun talking to you and you have healed me. So what do you think of that?"

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This episode exemplifies the essence of Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend—seeking genuine connections, understanding diverse perspectives, and infusing humor into meaningful conversations.

Transcript

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

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[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, maybe.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

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[Sona Movsesian]

Conan O'Brien needs a fan. Want to talk to Conan? Visit teamcoco.com callcon okay, let's get started.

[Eloise]

Hi, Eloise. Welcome to Conan O'Brien needs a fan.

Hello. Hey, guys.

[Conan O'Brien]

Hey, Eloise. How are you?

[Eloise]

I'm doing okay. Yeah, I'm doing good.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, well, you're talking to myself, Matt Sona, the gang.

[Eloise]

Hi.

[Conan O'Brien]

And tell me, I don't know much. Tell me, where are you right now? Who are you? Tell us the whole story.

[Eloise]

Sure. My name is Eloise. My pronouns are she, her. I'm calling from Manila in the Philippines. I am kind of like a healer in my community. So I'm a relationship and life coach. And I'm also my country's first openly trained soccer player.

[Conan O'Brien]

Wow, that's fantastic. And you say you're a healer as well, so you can help people. Maybe you could help me, please.

[Sona Movsesian]

I don't know.

[Eloise]

That's a tall order.

[Conan O'Brien]

Because, Eloise, people here think I need a lot of help.

[Sona Movsesian]

A lot of help.

[Eloise]

Okay, what do you need help with?

[Conan O'Brien]

I was hoping you would know.

[Eloise]

I have some guesses, I think. Don't be rude.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, you live in Manila and tell me just a little bit about your life. What do you like to do? How do you have fun?

[Eloise]

Yeah, so I work most of the time. Me and my fiance, we like to throw events for our local trans and autistic community. We throw little parties. We're doing an autistic friendly drag event. And what do we do? I play a lot of soccer and I've been eating a lot of pizza lately.

[Sona Movsesian]

I love pizza.

[Conan O'Brien]

Wow. This is. Pizza is the great unifier of everything you just said. So you are very active in the trans community. You have lots of get togethers. What kinds of things? What kind of things do you like to do with your friends who are trans? What kind of do you have? Do you have parties? Do you have. What do you do?

[Eloise]

Yeah, we do like to have parties. We like to watch a lot of movies together and kind of just bond and connect over being. Weird.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, I. I would like to join you because I Am told I'm weird. You know, it's part of my life story.

[Eloise]

I think you would be a good addition to the LGBT community. I'm not a certified representative, but I think we could use a little bit of Conan, because I think I'm the only one in my community that listens to Conan.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, well, all right, well, then there's work to be done.

[Eloise]

That's why I'm here, I think.

[Conan O'Brien]

Leave them alone. My mission has always been to expand my presence in the LGBTQ community in the Philippines.

[Sona Movsesian]

Very specific.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, I said that in 1963, the year I was born.

[Eloise]

I remember. You remember?

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. Wow. You have a time machine. Apparently. Yeah.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, would I get along? Would I fit in with everybody? I'm a pretty friendly person. Would they accept me? I guess that's the big question. Would your friends accept me? Well, this isn't going well. Eloise. Eloise. I'm not getting good signals. Eloise. And I don't think it's the zoom.

[Eloise]

There's a lot.

I think there's a lot of work to be done, and I'm not just talking about, like, therapy, but I think in terms of, like, the queer community. Like, I will be playing your podcast while I'm doing my makeup in the morning, and my fiance, who's also here, will be listening. They'll be like, what are you talking about?

[Conan O'Brien]

Like, oh, I think so.

[Eloise]

What is.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, there's, like, references your friends are picking up when I'm laying down, is what you're saying.

[Eloise]

Yeah, I think, like, the James Bond references aren't going well. Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Conan. Those are not my fault.

[Sona Movsesian]

Specifically the James Bond references.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's Matt. That's Matt. Who has the obscure references. Hold on.

[Eloise]

Last time that came up in detail. You brought it up.

Who brings up Calvin Coolidge? Because I don't think that.

Thank you.

[Conan O'Brien]

I always thought that Calvin Coolidge was huge in the trans community in the Philippines. Yeah, that was my understanding. Not so much President Taft, I get it. But.

[Eloise]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

But Coolidge.

[Matt Gourley]

Yeah.

[Eloise]

Lyndon Johnson, I think, is. If you. If you reference Johnson more, it would. Might be a little bit better.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay, I'll. I'll double down on Johnson. Okay, well, okay, so you. You say that. Let's say I came to Manila, and let's say that you and I were to meet and you were going to take me out for a night with your friends in the trans community. What would we be doing?

[Eloise]

Okay, I was thinking about this, and the first thing we would go to is there's this event called Girl Nation, it's a lesbian event and it's mostly all lesbian women and some trans men and then like one or two chill guys. So you have to pass that test of being chill and also an ally. And once you do that. Yeah, I think that's why I'm here to help is maybe I can teach you some slang or some things that will help you blend in and not stand out.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes, I want to blend in very much. I want to be considered a chill guy when I go out on the town with you and your friends in the trans community. So tell me, what are the things I should know?

[Eloise]

Thanks. I think some using Galingo, like off handedly being very used to it. You don't have to use it all the time, but if you use it like once a day in a podcast, then yeah, you'll be fine.

[Conan O'Brien]

Give me an example.

[Eloise]

I think you could say it's giving and then you make a reference at the end of that. And you can use that to like when you're like giving someone a compliment or if you want to be passive aggressive, you can use it to give someone an insult, but you use a very specific and obscure reference at the end of it. So you could say like, oh, it's giving, like season one, Love is Blind episode two. And someone would just be like, oh.

My God, could I do like, it's giving view to a kill scene.

[Conan O'Brien]

Garpin.

[Eloise]

Of course.

[Sona Movsesian]

James Bond. It all goes back to James Bond.

[Conan O'Brien]

I see what you're saying though. It probably has to be a reality TV show, right? That's better.

[Eloise]

It could be a reality, like right now.

[Conan O'Brien]

Eloise, you're totally giving me, you know, season six, Love island episode three, Cheetah. I just made all that all up.

[Sona Movsesian]

Cheetah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Cheetah. Okay, does that work?

[Eloise]

I think the delivery has to maybe improve.

[Conan O'Brien]

You know what? Yeah. Because I was too deliberate about it.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

You got to just toss it off. You know what I mean?

[Eloise]

You don't have to be like analyzing. You can just be like throwing it away. Like, oh, yeah, you're totally. You can even reference like, you know, presidential terms as long as you're specific and you're like throwing it away in a gay way.

[Conan O'Brien]

It's like, okay, you are just right now. You know what? I don't need this from you. You are so President Taft and selling the oc. I don't need this right now. Do you know what I mean?

[Eloise]

And I would be like, oh, my gosh, slay. Okay. Yeah, I don't know what that Means.

[Conan O'Brien]

And then I say slay right back to you. Slay.

[Eloise]

Okay.

[Conan O'Brien]

See, I think already I'm doing pretty well.

[Eloise]

No one would know you're basically a woman right now.

[Conan O'Brien]

I've heard that before.

[Eloise]

That's a compliment.

[Conan O'Brien]

Eloise, this is a big help. You're helping me. This is good. I think you are a hero. I think I have to learn more about reality shows.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yes.

[Conan O'Brien]

What are the popular reality shows? So I can just toss them off.

[Eloise]

Oh, love is blind.

[Conan O'Brien]

Love is blind.

[Eloise]

Sona maybe knows more.

[Sona Movsesian]

I would say the entire Real Housewives franchise. I mean, if, you know.

[Eloise]

Oh, yeah. If you can reference that.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Is there a city that. Because Is there a Real Housewives?

[Sona Movsesian]

I mean, Cincinnati.

[Eloise]

Salt Lake City.

[Sona Movsesian]

Since there's Salt Lake City, there's Atlanta, there's Orange County. Was the original.

[Conan O'Brien]

I call. I'm gonna go with Atlanta, and I'm gonna call it Hot Lana.

[Sona Movsesian]

Okay, I'm not gonna do that. Not good.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay.

[Sona Movsesian]

It's not good.

[Eloise]

All right.

[Sona Movsesian]

But, yeah, you know, the. What else? I mean, I. I think when I think of, you know, popular shows, I think of Real Housewives, but that's all I can think of off the top.

[Conan O'Brien]

I don't know. Eloise, you're totally giving me.

[Eloise]

It's going well. It's going well, buddy.

[Conan O'Brien]

Keep it up.

[Eloise]

You got it.

[Conan O'Brien]

Don't watch these shows.

[Sona Movsesian]

You can use Teresa from New Jersey. She's classic.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, yeah.

[Eloise]

A little.

[Conan O'Brien]

A little Teresa. Season four, Real Housewives of New Jersey much? Eloise, does that work?

[Eloise]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Slay.

[Eloise]

It sounds a little like an insult, but I'll take it.

[Sona Movsesian]

Vanderpump rules.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, yeah. Vanderpump rules.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah. Do you know you're. You're very van. I don't know, a lot of the characters.

[Eloise]

Scandal.

[Sona Movsesian]

Scandal.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, that's too obvious. You got to pick up someone more obscure.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

Svensson.

[Eloise]

What?

[Conan O'Brien]

He's the accountant on the show. Sony. You like to travel? You like to go away and have a good time?

[Sona Movsesian]

I do. I like taking the boys and Tack and I go somewhere.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Sona Movsesian]

For the holidays this year, we're thinking about, you know, just taking a trip to, you know, Lake Arrowhead for. For a week or something. You know, just somewhere nearby.

[Conan O'Brien]

Lake Arrowhead. That'd be beautiful.

[Sona Movsesian]

It would.

[Conan O'Brien]

And then it occurred to me recently, what happens, because you got a lovely home. You guys have a beautiful home. You've done a very nice restoration on it. What happens to your home when you guys are away?

[Sona Movsesian]

It just sits there. It just sits there.

[Conan O'Brien]

It shouldn't. I know. Think about it. If you host. Okay. If you host with Airbnb while you're away, it's basically like you're getting paid to travel.

[Sona Movsesian]

Exactly.

[Conan O'Brien]

I mean, it's genius.

[Sona Movsesian]

I know.

[Conan O'Brien]

So don't leave money on the table the next time you're out of town. When you're away, your home could be an Airbnb. Yeah. It's a cool idea. Think about it.

[Sona Movsesian]

I will.

[Conan O'Brien]

And I've got good ideas. Your home, AKA your future. Airbnb, might be worth more than you think. I think yours would be worth a lot because you guys did a beautiful job on it.

[Sona Movsesian]

Thank you. I hope so.

[Conan O'Brien]

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[Sona Movsesian]

You should fire them.

[Conan O'Brien]

A monster. If I could. There's no camera. I can. I've looked, looked for the tape.

[Sona Movsesian]

Gross.

[Conan O'Brien]

Whoever did it must pay. And I want to say to that person, if I found them and I saw them eating that flower that they cut out of the middle cake, I'd say, how do you sleep at night? Yeah, how do you sleep at night? And you know what? I think I know what they'd say. They'd say, mattress Firm. Yeah, that's the problem. They turn it into an ad.

[Sona Movsesian]

It's interesting that you would know what they would say, but you have no idea what they're saying.

[Conan O'Brien]

They'd have frosting all over their mouth and they'd say, mattress Firm. Rest easy with mattress firms 120 night sleep trial. Love it or your money back. Hey, I love to hear that.

[Sona Movsesian]

I love being able to give stuff back if I don't like it.

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[Sona Movsesian]

That is actually pretty sweet.

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[Eloise]

Oh, you can join a women's soccer training. I can. I coached when I was younger and. Yeah, you could become an elite athlete. And I can help you.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. I got news for you.

[Eloise]

Make a really good.

[Conan O'Brien]

I got news for you. I think I have a much better chance in the trans community. I really do. I think I have a better chance than becoming an elite athlete. I just. I don't know. I just.

[Eloise]

You don't think you have it in you? That dog in you?

[Conan O'Brien]

I'm an old, old fellow and my. The other day I got out of bed quickly and my left leg fell off and I used electrical tape to put it back on. And so that's what I'm concerned about is pieces of my body coming off in the Philippines. You know, you're so.

[Eloise]

Kyle versus Kim Richards in season one of Desperate Housewives.

Exactly.

Yes.

That's so true.

[Conan O'Brien]

Thank you.

[Eloise]

You are really giving that Kyle from whatever math.

The reason I know this is because Kyle Richards, who's one of the housewives, played Lindsay as the young girl in Halloween.

[Conan O'Brien]

There you go.

[Eloise]

That's why I know that.

[Conan O'Brien]

See?

[Eloise]

What?

[Conan O'Brien]

It doesn't matter where you get the knowledge, as long as you have the knowledge.

[Eloise]

I just shouldn't reveal that.

[Conan O'Brien]

Right? Right now you're being so Winston Bufferman on American Roadshow with his collection of pneumatic tubes that he sold.

[Eloise]

You are such a Jamie Heineman from mythbusters right now.

[Conan O'Brien]

Jesus.

[Eloise]

Oh, my God.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Eloise]

You guys are slaying each other.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. This is incredible, right?

[Eloise]

Yeah.

[Conan O'Brien]

You are such a Walt Kellerman from American Pickers Season 4.

[Sona Movsesian]

American Pickers.

[Eloise]

Spoken like a Darwin HammelSmith from the TV Sci Fi makeup show Face Off.

[Conan O'Brien]

Okay.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah, yeah. You guys are like a couple detectives on the first 48.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. What?

[Eloise]

That's a docu series, not a reality show.

[Sona Movsesian]

What is the difference? They're reality there. It's a different kind of reality.

[Matt Gourley]

No.

[Sona Movsesian]

Okay, all right, all right. I. Well, why can't we do docu series?

[Eloise]

You can't slay with docu series.

[Conan O'Brien]

Eloise, can you slay with docu series?

[Eloise]

I'm gonna have to call RuPaul and ask, but I think RuPaul would definite.

[Conan O'Brien]

No.

[Sona Movsesian]

Okay, hold on.

[Conan O'Brien]

I got RuPaul on the line now. What's that? Oh, quick. No. Okay, invisible phone, everybody. And I hang that up.

[Sona Movsesian]

She wouldn't take your phone.

[Eloise]

I'm sorry, Sona. Yeah, I don't. I don't know any of the references you just made. I think I'm becoming straight again. No, I think I'm in trouble because if I bring Conan and you guys make these references, I know me as a healer.

[Conan O'Brien]

They'd be like, eloise, after what you've heard today, do you want me to come visit you? And you're allowed to say, no, you've changed your mind.

[Sona Movsesian]

That's such a long pause.

[Conan O'Brien]

That's a long pause.

[Sona Movsesian]

Eloise, you just answered my question.

[Eloise]

I am a big fan, but I am also, you know, I have a reputation to uphold as one of the healers in the gay community, and I don't mean that in a rude way. I think maybe I can do your makeup, and we will style you.

[Sona Movsesian]

The American Pickers reference, I think that's what did it.

[Eloise]

I think that might scare people.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, I probably. Yeah. Well, I admire your honesty. I really do, and I try. I appreciate that. Can I ask you a question? You've mentioned autism also during this interview. Do you. Are you autistic?

[Eloise]

Yeah, I'm autistic.

[Conan O'Brien]

When did you find that out?

[Eloise]

When I met my partner who is autistic, and I realized, oh, we are the same. I have what you have, but for my most of my life, I didn't know that I had that. So. Yeah. And I think, like, with autistic people, Conan is. Can be a big hit. Are sometimes amiss, because we have maybe issues of taking people very literally.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Eloise]

And so, for example, my whole family, we love watching Conan, and we've been watching since I was 18. And we would be around the TV with my mom, my sister, and my brother, and we'd be all enjoying it. And, like, one day my dad came in the room to kind of see what's going on. And my dad kind of takes the people very literally. I don't think he has a good, you know, understanding of that context. And we watched the whole episode of your show, and we all loved it. And I look at my dad to see what does he think? And he just goes, he's rude. He's really rude.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah, I could see that. That's Funny.

[Eloise]

That was my reaction.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. What if he sees the real me? What if it. You know, what if he's right? Yeah, I think I can see. Yeah. It's different, you know, it's not. I'm not for everyone, and that's always the way it's been, you know?

[Sona Movsesian]

Who are you? You would be like, I'm on the next flight out to the Philippines to meet your dad and make him love.

[Conan O'Brien]

Oh, I'm gonna win him over. I was pretending to be okay with your dad not liking me, but this is odd. I'm obsessed now.

[Eloise]

What would you do?

[Conan O'Brien]

What would I do?

[Eloise]

Well, yeah, if he thinks you're rude. How would you. What kind of comedy would you go?

[Conan O'Brien]

Well, first of all, I'd be very respectful and kind to him. So respectful and kind that he would see that I'm not rude. Then I.

[Eloise]

He's so hilarious.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. And then I would probably bring him some gifts. And what would you bring him? Oh, well, what does your dad like?

[Eloise]

Pork.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes.

[Sona Movsesian]

That'll fly.

[Eloise]

Well.

[Conan O'Brien]

Goes right in the overhead compartment. So I would wrap some pork in newspaper, just a full pig, put it in the overhead compartment and fly. I think it's probably a pretty quick flight from LA to Manila. And then get in a cab in the hot sun and take this rotten fetid pork to your father and say, hey, you're the guy that thought I was rude. Have this rotting pork. And then I think would be best buddies, don't you think?

[Eloise]

I think he would think you were courting him, but, yeah, you know what? Give it a try.

[Conan O'Brien]

You are so season three American botulism.

[Eloise]

So I can't believe that got three seasons.

[Conan O'Brien]

It almost didn't finish one.

[Eloise]

If you can win my father's approval, then you can do something. I have. And so that'd be really cool. Maybe we can work together.

[Conan O'Brien]

I have my ways. I tend to win people over. Sony, you've seen me in action.

[Sona Movsesian]

I have. I have.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Sona Movsesian]

Even. Even the biggest naysayers, you get them on your side.

[Conan O'Brien]

Not that there are that many, but.

[Sona Movsesian]

Yeah, yeah, I've seen it happen. Big naysayers, not so.

[Conan O'Brien]

Not so big people that had slight hesitation and they overcame it. Quite a few people, not a lot.

[Sona Movsesian]

A lot of people.

[Conan O'Brien]

Not big. Nick Sayers, you know, Eloise, Are there any events that we would go to together? Are there any events in the trans community that I could participate in?

[Eloise]

Yeah, we are doing some event for trans women and trans men. We're doing one for men where we talk about healthy masculinity. What does it take to be a good man? And we also give people or hope. We're planning this, hoping to give people haircuts while we're talking about that in a barber shop. And then we have one for trans women where we talk about what it means to be a good woman in a more progressive way. Cool, healthy. Are you interested in either of those?

[Conan O'Brien]

Sure. I was just hoping at one point there's alcohol involved, you know, going to a club or something. But yes, I like those. I think what you're doing sounds very cool and very healthy. But at some point, I want to hit the dance floor. Do you understand? You've got to see my moves to believe them, Eloise. You've got to see them.

[Eloise]

Why? Does it sound like a threat?

[Conan O'Brien]

Yes, yes.

[Eloise]

I'm not necessarily a brag.

[Conan O'Brien]

Unless my demands are met, Eloise, unless there's a suitcase full of cash in this podcast office tomorrow you will see me dance.

[Eloise]

Oh, my gosh.

[Conan O'Brien]

Yeah. You have 24 hours. The clock is ticking. Well, Eloise, it was a good way. Eloise, it was very nice talking to you and you are very funny. You seem very funny and very cool and I do believe you're a healer because I've had fun talking to you and you have healed me. So what do you think of that?

[Eloise]

That's great. Yeah, I think that'll be $250.

[Conan O'Brien]

All right, I'll get it to you. Thank you, Eloise. Nice talking to you.

[Eloise]

Bye. Bye.

[Conan O'Brien]

Bye, Bye, bye.

[Eloise]

Thanks, guys.

[Sona Movsesian]

Thanks.

[Eloise]

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