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ON THIS EPISODE OF THE CONCRETE LOGIC PODCAST
Does exterior concrete always need entrained air to survive freezing and thawing?

Seth is joined by Jason Adams, founder and CEO of Mega Slab, to challenge that long-standing practice. Jason argues that a properly designed, highly dense concrete system may limit water intrusion enough to reduce the need for entrained air.

Seth presses on the risks, including mix design, workability, finishing, curing, and specification requirements. Jason makes clear that he is not recommending contractors simply remove air from a standard mix. His approach depends on treating the concrete as a complete system.

The episode asks a practical question: Should exterior concrete be designed to give freezing water room to expand, or should the priority be keeping water out in the first place?

WHAT YOU’LL LEARN

What air entrainment is intended to do during freeze-thaw exposure
The difference between entrained air and naturally entrapped air
Why Jason believes entrained air can reduce concrete density
How dense concrete may limit water and chloride intrusion
Why removing air from a standard exterior mix is not enough
How aggregate packing and optimized mix designs affect permeability
Why air-entrained concrete should not be hard-trowel finished
How entrained air can affect workability and finishing
Why specifications and established practices may resist this approach
What field performance Jason has observed in Midwestern pavements
Why mix design, placement, finishing, curing, and fibers must work as a system

CHAPTERS
(00:00) Introduction and support for the show
(03:24) Jason Adams and the air-void question
(04:56) Freeze-thaw testing and ASTM standards
(05:46) What air entrainment is designed to do
(07:26) Jason challenges the traditional approach
(08:52) Can dense concrete keep water out?
(11:37) Designing a mix without entrained air
(12:58) Why air-entrained concrete should not be troweled
(14:47) A problematic exterior pavement example
(16:23) Seth asks about the tradeoffs
(17:49) Workability, finishing, and industry pushback
(20:06) Protecting the concrete surface
(22:01) Why this must be treated as a complete system
(23:24) How to connect with Jason Adams

GUEST INFO
Jason Adams
Founder and CEO
Mega Slab
Guest link:
https://www.concretelogicpodcast.com/guests/jason-adams/

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CREDITS
Producers: Jodi Tandett and Concrete Logic Media

Music by: Mike Dunton
https://www.mdunton.com/

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Until next time, let’s keep it concrete.