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Adrian Florido
One of the largest Ebola outbreaks in history is spreading in Central Africa. The World Health Organization's tally of confirmed and suspected cases is around 1,000, and health workers say that's likely a major undercount. The epicenter of the outbreak is in the Democratic Republic of Congo, or drc.
Robert Petron Messi
What we are witnessing in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo today is not simply an outbreak. Ebola outbreak in isolation. It is an epidemic unfolding within an already fragile humanitarian context.
Adrian Florido
That's Robert Petron Messi. He works for the international nonprofit Oxfam in the drc, and he sent us a voice memo describing why the epidemic is so hard to control. Not only is there no vaccine for this strain of the virus, which spreads through bodily fluids, but. But in the towns where it's running rampant, many people aren't able to quarantine.
Robert Petron Messi
Families are frequently living in small shared spaces where isolation is simply not possible.
Adrian Florido
In the drc, several crises are coalescing. Prolonged economic hardship, a history of conflict, and now this outbreak. While the northeast region of the DRC is seeing the worst of it so far, even Ebola has begun to make its way across the nearby border into Uganda, where workers and officials are racing to contain the spread. Uganda closed its official border crossings with Congo just a few days ago.
Leonard Muzinguzi
Even so, we still have a number of porous border points whereby people continue to cross over. So that is one of the challenges we are having.
Adrian Florido
Leonard Muzinguzi is a community and surveillance officer for the International Rescue Committee in Kiryandongo, Uganda, near the border with the drc.
Leonard Muzinguzi
Chiri Ndongo was categorized as a very high risk district.
Adrian Florido
Muzinguzi's job is to track likely cases of Ebola, quarantine people showing possible symptoms, and prepare his community in case the disease begins to spread. Beyond the few confirmed cases so far, we reached Muzinguzi at a clinic where he's working. I asked him about one big challenge we've been hearing in communities in the Democratic Republic of Congo that have been heavily affected by Ebola, that there's a lot of mistrust of health authorities, of health officials, of clinics. Some people don't believe that Ebola is actually what's causing people to get sick. I'm wondering if you are hearing similar concerns or mistrust from people where you are.
Leonard Muzinguzi
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation. However, with these actions that we are doing, a lot of behavior change is happening.
Adrian Florido
Muzingusi relies heavily on public health messaging, using radio and tv.
Leonard Muzinguzi
We do radio spot messages on Ebola in different languages. We have printed out posters talking about how we can identify symptoms of Ebola.
Adrian Florido
Mosengusi says these education campaigns are critical, but he says recent cuts in international foreign aid have meant not enough money to get public health information on the air.
Leonard Muzinguzi
We have a number of gaps due to the funding cuts. If, let me say, you have to have five radio talk shows on radio educating people on how they can identify cases you find because of reduced funding, you only have one.
Adrian Florido
Consider this. Aid workers are doing what they can to stop a deadly disease, but they need help. And this outbreak is revealing how funding cuts have made it harder to stem the tide of sickness and death, and not just for this Ebola outbreak. From npr, I'm Adrian Florido.
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Adrian Florido
It's consider this from npr. Aid workers in the Democratic Republic of Congo and Uganda are on the front lines of the Ebola crisis. They need more than they currently have to fight the disease. To understand the impact of these cuts, we reached out to Nicholas Enrich. He worked on global health policy for the United States Agency for International Development, known as usaid, coordinating the US Federal response to international public health threats. He was acting assistant administrator for global health in the first months of President Trump's second term as as the agency was being dismantled and he was placed on administrative leave for making details about that effort public. I first asked him about the severity of this Ebola outbreak.
Nicholas Enrich
Yeah, I think that this is one of the most serious Ebola outbreaks that the world has ever seen, honestly. And part of that is because of how late we got notification and declaration of the outbreak. And part of it has to do with the strain of the virus as well as the location of it. But, you know, I was really surprised when we first heard about this that already the number of cases were in the hundreds and the number of deaths were reported to be, you know, in the dozens.
Adrian Florido
How important a role has the US Usually played in fighting an outbreak like this? You know, what has the US role historically looked like on the ground?
Nicholas Enrich
Specifically, the US has played a central role in coordinating with the host government of an Ebola outbreak. USAID led the response, often in coordination with local part that worked for community based organizations and religious groups that were trusted in the communities.
Adrian Florido
Is any of that happening now from what you can see?
Nicholas Enrich
No, I think what we've really lost in this particular outbreak is the US Government's rapid response. And USAID had a playbook for responding rapidly. And that actually starts before the outbreak begins in terms of preparation, pre positioning of ppe.
Adrian Florido
By PPE you mean personal protective equipment?
Nicholas Enrich
Yes, that's correct. Right. It's the goggles, the masks, the gowns, doing surveillance and community monitoring and investing heavily in training of community based health workers. That would be the eyes and ears that would first detect a potential viral hemorrhagic fever like Ebola. That's the part of this that has been systematically dismantled. We're seeing the State Department responding much more slowly, having to reinvent the wheel. And this is a time when decisions need to be made in hours, not the days and weeks that we're seeing from the State Department. This lack of time is actually costing lives.
Adrian Florido
The State Department has said that it is sending $23 million to Central Africa to help contain the outbreak and also that the US is going to fund 50 clinics. Is that not a big deal?
Nicholas Enrich
No, I think that that is a big deal and they should continue to do that. However, I think that's it's very much future looking and that's not exactly what we're looking for in terms of an immediate response. I mean, I think that we're going to need those, unfortunately, as this outbreak continue. The problem is that these are not the immediate response that is needed and that USAID had been famous for.
Adrian Florido
What lessons should the US be learning right now as we speak, as we look at this outbreak spread, about the importance of preparedness for future global health emergencies?
Nicholas Enrich
Yeah, I think that that's exactly the lesson is that preparedness is key and that it's much more effective to be prepared to prevent outbreaks in advance than to respond to them. And I think what we're seeing with Ebola is actually just unfortunately the tip of the iceberg of the damage that has been done to the global early warning system that USAID and its partners developed to help countries to be able to detect and respond to potential outbreaks before they developed into international crises like this one. I hope that the lesson to be learned is that infectious diseases do not respect international borders, and we need to reinvest in the kinds of surveillance and monitoring to make sure that we're aware of concerns before they turn into major outbreaks.
Adrian Florido
We've been speaking with Nicholas Enrich. He worked in the Bureau of Global health at the U.S. agency for International Development until last year and is the author of into the Wood Chipper, a book about the dismantling of usaid. Nicholas Henrich, thanks for joining us.
Nicholas Enrich
Thanks so much for having me.
Adrian Florido
We asked the State Department to respond to Enrich's claims. State Department spokesman Tommy Pigott told us that it's false to claim that the USAID reform has negatively impacted the U.S. s ability to respond to Ebola. He said the U.S. mobilized within 24 hours of the first confirmed case and that the administration's highest priority remains, quote, protecting the health and security of the American people by working to prevent this outbreak from reaching our shores. Meanwhile, Robert Petron Messi, the aid worker in the drc, told us reductions in international funding and coordination have weakened essential services and his organization can provide like quarantining at a critical time in this deadly Ebola outbreak.
Robert Petron Messi
What is most urgently required is rapid and flexible funding. As the situation evolves, with the right level of international support, the trajectory can still be reversed.
Adrian Florido
This episode was produced by Henry Larson and edited by Sarah Robbins. Our executive producer is Courtney Dornick. It's consider this from npr. I'm Adrian Florida.
Date: May 31, 2026
Host: Adrian Florido
Guests:
This episode of "Consider This" explores the escalating Ebola outbreak in Central Africa, focusing on the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and Uganda. Host Adrian Florido investigates how misinformation, porous borders, and, crucially, recent cuts to international aid are making frontline efforts to contain the virus increasingly difficult. The conversation includes first-hand reports from aid workers and analysis from a former USAID official, highlighting what’s at stake and what needs to change.
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"What we are witnessing in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo today is not simply an outbreak. Ebola outbreak in isolation. It is an epidemic unfolding within an already fragile humanitarian context."
— Robert Petron Messi (00:19)
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"Families are frequently living in small shared spaces where isolation is simply not possible."
— Robert Petron Messi (00:58)
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"There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation. However, with these actions that we are doing, a lot of behavior change is happening."
— Leonard Muzinguzi (02:39)
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"Even so, we still have a number of porous border points whereby people continue to cross over. So that is one of the challenges we are having."
— Leonard Muzinguzi (01:36)
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"We have a number of gaps due to the funding cuts. If ... you have to have five radio talk shows on radio educating people on how they can identify cases you find because of reduced funding, you only have one."
— Leonard Muzinguzi (03:16)
Quotes:
"… USAID had a playbook for responding rapidly. ... This is a time when decisions need to be made in hours, not the days and weeks that we're seeing from the State Department. This lack of time is actually costing lives."
— Nicholas Enrich (06:28 - 07:21)
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"That's ... very much future looking and that's not exactly what we're looking for in terms of an immediate response."
— Nicholas Enrich (07:31)
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"What we're seeing with Ebola is actually just unfortunately the tip of the iceberg of the damage that has been done to the global early warning system ..."
— Nicholas Enrich (08:04)
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"What is most urgently required is rapid and flexible funding. As the situation evolves, with the right level of international support, the trajectory can still be reversed."
— Robert Petron Messi (09:47)
The episode maintains a direct, urgent, and informed tone—balancing firsthand experiences from frontline workers with policy analysis. Voices on the ground express concern, frustration, and hope, while the policy perspective is frank about bureaucratic shortcomings and lost preparedness.
For listeners seeking actionable insights:
This episode highlights both immediate needs (funding, resources, trust-building) and systemic issues (international preparedness and rapid response coordination), serving as a call to action for governments and global health partners to recommit to supporting frontline efforts.