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Rob Schmitz
Atop a cobblestone hill overlooking the Danube river and the medieval lanes of Budapest, tour groups surround a changing of the guard ceremony in front of a 13th century Baroque castle. Across the square, construction crews rebuild a centuries old palace complex. That's where politician Akos Harhaji guides a tour of his own. We are at the Buda Castle and and if you're looking for a symbolic place for corruption, power and the waste of public money, this is a beautiful venue for that, says Hodogi, as a Chinese tour group marches by. Hodhoji is an independent member of Hungary's parliament. He routinely gives tours showcasing the corruption of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban's government. The offices for the prime minister and his ministers used to be down there next to the parliament building, he says, pointing to Budapest's other big pointy towered tourist attraction. But Orban decided he wanted to move here into a castle. Even Matthios Rakosi, Hungary's most brutal communist dictator, refused to move his office here. But Orban wants to play king, says Hadhaji, so the National Gallery may soon be forced to move out of the castle to make way for him. All this construction, had, Haji says, represents Orban's gifts to cronies in the form of lucrative contracts, while ensuring Orban can survey his kingdom from above. The capital Consider Viktor Orban is in his fourth consecutive term as prime minister of Hungary. In that time he has dismantled democratic checks and balances, taken control of the country's media, civil society and universities, and consolidated power in him and his Fidesz party. His step by step dismantling of Hungary's democracy is a point of fascination for political scientists around the world, including those advising the Trump administration. From npr, I'm Rob Schmitz. This message comes from Capital One with the Capital One Saver card, earn unlimited 3% cash back on dining and entertainment. Capital One what's in your wallet?
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Rob Schmitz
It's consider this from NPR. Eikos Hadhaji, the independent member of Hungary's parliament, says Viktor Orban is an easy it's not like Orban is a genius politician. He says he received his sheet music from Vladimir Putin, who came into power when oil prices were high. He channeled that money into oligarchs, and in return they bought up Russia's independent media. Orban franchise. That model here in Hungary says had Hoji, except he used European Union funds. The European Union has since frozen funding to Hungary, but not before Orban took control of much of the country's independent media. What's left of Hungary's independent press can be found in nooks and crannies like this one. In a tiny apartment in central Budapest, a few dozen journalists from what used to be prominent newspapers that were one by one forced to shut down by Orban's government have formed their own Mogherhang, or Hungarian Voice.
Lukac
So we started from zero csoba.
Rob Schmitz
Lukac is managing director of the paper.
Lukac
Nobody was brave enough to print in Hungary, so we have to find a printing company outside from the country. Until now, our newspaper is printed in Slovakia, in Bratislava. So we have to organize every week. Transportation of the newspaper Hungarian Voice is.
Rob Schmitz
Funded almost entirely through subscriptions, says Lukac. He says it's the only conservative paper in Hungary that is not part of the state propaganda apparatus. Lukac says Orban has stripped away press freedom in a step by step process over the years.
Lukac
We are not yet in Turkey because the journalists will not be jailed yet. We are not in Russia because nobody was falling out from the windows yet. But day by day we are getting.
Rob Schmitz
Closer, and day by day, he says. Viktor Orban's attacks on the media and civil society get worse. Last month, in a speech commemorating Hungary's 1848 revolution against the Habsburg Empire, Orban said, we will dismantle the financial machinery that bought politicians, judges, journalists, pseudo civil organizations and political activists. He called these groups stink bugs who have survived the winter and need to be eradicated. A special circle of hell declared Orban awaits them. Political scientist Peter Krekkos says Orban is targeting the last bastions of Western democracy in Hungary.
Peter Kreko
Orban just thinks that the west is unable to survive, and democratic and liberal practices of the west have weakened the West.
Rob Schmitz
Kreko has mapped out the process Orban has taken to dismantle Hungary's democracy. Orban began, he says, by weakening Hungary's courts, filling them with loyalists. He then applied pressure on media companies, either turning them into state propaganda or putting them out of business. Then, says Kreko, Orban took control over universities, appointing leaders loyal to him. Kreko says Orban focused on ridding Hungary of any institution capable of checking his power. And he says he sees similarities to how President Donald Trump is carrying out his second term in office. The difference, says Kareko, is the pace at which Trump is operating.
Peter Kreko
I think Trump went further in two months than Orban could in 15 years. The United States. It reminds me of a constitutional coup where everything happens very rapidly.
Rob Schmitz
In public speeches, President Trump has called Orban fantastic, respected and said nobody is a better leader than the Hungarian prime minister. And while Orban has boasted that his party has shared his strategies with Trump advisors, Kareko doubts the help was very meaningful. He says Hungary serves as more of a conservative fantasy land that mega Republicans can aspire to.
Peter Kreko
So Hungary as the country where you don't have immigrants, where you don't have woke issues when gender ideology is not dominant and when family values is strong. So this is clearly a construction of Hungary that has nothing to do with reality.
Rob Schmitz
That's because, says Greco, Hungary is surrounded by Europe and its open society. Budapest's annual Pride Parade is one of Europe's largest. Last month, Orban's party pushed a new law through parliament that has banned any assembly that, quote, promotes homosexuality in order to, quote, protect children. This week, Hungary's parliament passed an amendment to the constitution doing the same. At a cafe in Budapest, Pride Parade spokesperson Johanna Majerczik says this new law will likely go further than banning the Pride Parade.
Johanna Majerczik
So if the government succeeds in banning such a peaceful protest, that means that in the future they will be able to ban or restrict any other peaceful event, any other peaceful demonstration organized by another social group.
Rob Schmitz
Many other Hungarians agree. After this public assembly law passed, tens of thousands of people halted traffic and bridges in the capital in what have become weekly protests. Critics of the new law say Orban is using the LGBTQ community as a tool to shut down the right of Hungarian citizens to freely assemble in peaceful protests like these, particularly at a time when the opposition to Orban's rule is beginning to gain momentum. But political analysts say Orban, nearing the end of his fourth consecutive term as Hungary's prime minister, appears to be yet again adapting his step by step strategy to hold on to power for as long as he can. This episode was produced by Mark Rivers and Christine Arrowsmith. It was edited by Nick Spicer. Our executive producer is Sammy Yenigun. It's consider this from npr. I'm Rob Schmitz.
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Consider This from NPR: “Dismantling Democracy: Lessons from Hungary's Viktor Orban”
Release Date: April 20, 2025
Host: Rob Schmitz
The episode opens atop a cobblestone hill overlooking Budapest’s historic Danube River, where Rob Schmitz sets the scene at Buda Castle. Here, Akos Hadhaji, an independent member of Hungary's parliament, leads a tour that starkly highlights the corruption and power consolidation under Prime Minister Viktor Orban. Hadhaji remarks, “If you're looking for a symbolic place for corruption, power, and the waste of public money, this is a beautiful venue for that” (00:02), as Chinese tour groups pass by, underscoring the contrast between Hungary’s rich history and its current political climate.
Orban, in his fourth consecutive term, has systematically dismantled democratic institutions in Hungary. Hadhaji points out the strategic relocation of the Prime Minister’s offices to the castle, a move that echoes historical authoritarian practices. “Orban wants to play king,” Hadhaji states (03:11), drawing parallels to Hungary’s oppressive past under leaders like Matthios Rakosi. The construction activities surrounding the castle are criticized as “Orban's gifts to cronies in the form of lucrative contracts,” ensuring Orban’s dominance both symbolically and practically.
A significant focus of Orban’s strategy has been the suppression of independent media. Hadhaji explains that Orban utilized European Union funds to dominate Hungary’s media landscape, a tactic that has led to the shutdown of numerous independent outlets. “Orban took control of much of the country's independent media,” Schmitz narrates (03:11). The remnants of independent journalism, such as the newly formed Mogherhang (Hungarian Voice), operate under precarious conditions. Lukac, the managing director, shares the challenges faced: “Nobody was brave enough to print in Hungary… our newspaper is printed in Slovakia” (04:16), highlighting the lengths to which journalists must go to maintain an independent voice.
Political scientist Peter Krekkos outlines Orban’s methodical approach to weakening Hungary’s democratic framework. Orban began by infiltrating the judiciary with loyalists, thereby eroding judicial independence. Subsequently, he targeted media companies and universities, appointing leaders who align with his vision. Krekkos notes, “Orban focused on ridding Hungary of any institution capable of checking his power” (05:01), drawing a blueprint that some fear could inspire similar authoritarian shifts elsewhere.
Krekkos draws unsettling parallels between Orban’s tactics and those employed by President Donald Trump during his second term. He observes, “Trump went further in two months than Orban could in 15 years” (06:33), likening it to a “constitutional coup where everything happens very rapidly.” While Trump has publicly praised Orban, calling him “fantastic” and “respected” (06:46), Krekkos doubts the depth of influence Orban’s strategies have had on American politics, suggesting that Hungary serves more as an aspirational model for certain conservative factions rather than a direct influence.
Orban's government has intensified its crackdown on civil liberties, particularly targeting the LGBTQ community. In a recent parliamentary session, Hungary passed a law banning assemblies that “promote homosexuality” to “protect children” (07:26). Johanna Majerczik, a spokesperson for the Pride Parade, warns, “If the government succeeds in banning such a peaceful protest, that means that in the future they will be able to ban or restrict any other peaceful event” (08:00). This legislation has sparked widespread protests, with tens of thousands taking to the streets to oppose the new restrictions, signaling a growing resistance movement against Orban’s authoritarian measures.
Despite Orban’s tightening grip, public dissent remains robust. Weekly protests, including significant disruptions like halting traffic and blocking bridges, demonstrate the populace’s resilience. Critics argue that Orban is strategically using the LGBTQ community as a pretext to limit broader civil freedoms, particularly as opposition forces begin to regain momentum. The societal pushback underscores the tension between Orban’s authoritarian ambitions and Hungary’s democratic aspirations.
As Viktor Orban nears the end of his fourth term, his adaptability in maintaining power continues to evolve. Political analysts suggest that Orban’s incremental dismantling of democratic institutions serves as a cautionary tale for democracies worldwide. The episode concludes by emphasizing the ongoing struggle within Hungary, balancing Orban’s authoritarian legacy against the determined efforts of civil society and opposition forces striving to restore democratic norms.
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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the critical discussions and insights from the NPR episode, providing a clear understanding of Viktor Orban’s strategies in undermining democracy in Hungary, the implications for civil society, and the broader resonance of these actions in the global political landscape.