Meet the NASA astronauts headed to the moon

Summary

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Episode Title: Meet the NASA Astronauts Headed to the Moon
Air Date: April 1, 2026
Host: Scott Detrow

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Consider This" spotlights NASA's Artemis 2 mission—the United States’ historic return to crewed lunar flight after more than fifty years. Host Scott Detrow interviews astronauts and experts, exploring the significance of the mission, the grueling preparations, and the personal stakes for the diverse Artemis 2 crew, who are about to embark on a 10-day journey around the moon. The episode also reflects on the broader meaning of America's space ambitions, national identity, and the risks and rewards of lunar exploration.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Significance of Returning to the Moon

• Historical Context
  • The podcast sets the stage with contrasts between divisions in America and moments of national unity—specifically the collective awe of the lunar missions.
  • Quote Highlight:
    “The quest to reach the moon has always been a key part of the American myth.” — Scott Detrow [01:30]
  • A clip from John F. Kennedy's famous 1962 speech frames the adventure and risk of lunar exploration.
    JFK Quote:
    “Space is there and we're going to climb it... The moon and the planets are there, and new hopes for knowledge and peace are there.” [00:31]

Meeting the Artemis 2 Crew

• The Mission

  • Artemis 2 marks the first crewed mission around the moon since Apollo, aiming to be more representative of America's diversity.
  • The four-person crew:
    • Commander: Reid Wiseman
    • Pilot: Victor Glover (first person of color to go to the moon)
    • Mission Specialists: Christina Koch (first woman to the moon) and Jeremy Hansen (Canadian astronaut)
  • Quote Highlight:
    “The Artemis program is intentionally more representative than Apollo was.” — Scott Detrow [05:23]

• Inside Crew Training

  • Detrow joins Commander Wiseman at Johnson Space Center for a hands-on look at Orion capsule training.
    • Notable Moment: Detrow awkwardly climbs into the capsule, likening the cramped space to the realities the crew will face. [03:46–04:11]
  • Wiseman explains critical capsule controls—most switches are for emergencies.
    Wiseman Quote:
    “In general, the switches are not intended to be used if everything is going well. These switches are last ditch efforts.” [04:32]
  • Flight Dynamics:
    • From zero at launch, to 17,000 mph in orbit, and 25,000 mph (39x speed of sound) on reentry.
      Wiseman: “When we hit low earth orbit, we're doing 17,000 miles an hour. And when we come back in the atmosphere, we're doing 25,000 miles an hour. It's crazy numbers.” [04:58]

Diversity and Representation

• Victor Glover Reflects:
  • Quote:
    “We get to do something that's just wholly unique in all of human experience... We are all trying to move the needle forward, trying to make things better for humanity.” [05:54]
• Christina Koch on Living in the Capsule:
  • Previous experience on the ISS informs her approach.
    • She humorously discusses the sleeping arrangements, with her eye on the "cozy" spot.
      Koch: “The other day we figured out where we might all hang our sleeping bags... that will be where they hang either feet up or head up...” [06:38]
    • Wiseman banter:
      “I like how Christina didn't identify that she has already declared that spot hers, but we know that is her spot.” [07:07]

Risks & Groundwork

• Training for the Unknown
  • Wiseman describes the mental discipline needed in simulations.
    Wiseman:
    “Every time you push a button, you take that split second before you push... What is this button about to do to this vehicle?” [07:25]
  • Morba Jhaw (UT Austin) and Jeremy Hansen highlight the unique risks:
    • There are no backup capsules—the crew is truly on its own. Jhaw: “We don't have more of these Orions just sitting on shelves to go launch, you know, the backup and rendezvous with them... they're gonna have to figure it out or not.” [08:00] Hansen:
      “Part of the preparation... is understanding that there's a very real chance you don't come back.” [08:20]

The Crew’s Mindset

• Responsibilities During the Mission
  • Koch explains their task: live observations of the moon to report what machines can't capture, specifically the "colors human eyes see" and large-scale surface features.
    Koch: “Our primary task is observing... It's a supreme responsibility to have eyes on the far side of the Moon.” [09:01]
• The Weight of History
  • Detrow asks about the pressure of following in Apollo's footsteps.
    Koch: “I like to allow space for that every once in a while. And for me, allowing about two seconds every couple months is enough.” [09:39] Wiseman: “Sometimes it hits you, and then most of the time it's just kind of in the background.” [09:55]
  • Glover:
    “One of the biggest challenges is going to be finding those quiet moments... and be in the moment, because it'll be over so quickly.” [10:27]

The Broader Impulse to Explore

• The team reflects on humanity’s enduring drive to return to and stay on the moon.
  • Koch:
    “When I look at humanity and the call to explore that humans have put out there, we were always going to go back to the moon and go back to stay. And so our role is just really answering that call.” [10:58]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• JFK:
  “Space is there and we're going to climb it... the most hazardous and dangerous and greatest adventure…” [00:31]
• Victor Glover:
  “We get to do something that's just wholly unique in all of human experience.” [05:54]
• Christina Koch (on pressure):
  “Allowing about two seconds every couple months is enough.” [09:39]
• Jeremy Hansen (on risk):
  “There are the unknown unknowns and there's risk involved... there’s a very real chance you don't come back.” [08:20]
• Morba Jhaw (on backup):
  “They're gonna have to figure it out or not.” [08:00]
• Reid Wiseman (on reflection):
  “I had to get up and go for a walk around my living room for a second because I just couldn't get myself back into the mode of going to sleep.” [09:55]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:31] JFK’s 1962 Moon Speech
• [03:16] Intro to Artemis 2 and the crew
• [03:49–04:32] Entering NASA’s Orion capsule & astronaut training
• [05:23–05:54] Diversity in Artemis crew; Victor Glover’s perspective
• [06:25–07:07] Small space living and crew camaraderie
• [07:25–08:20] On-the-ground training, risks, and mental preparation
• [09:01] What Artemis 2 will actually do on the mission
• [09:39–10:27] Astronauts process the enormity of their task in personal ways
• [10:58] Christina Koch: Why we’re going back

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Summary

This engaging NPR episode provides a human-centered look at Artemis 2, blending the technical risks and historic ambition with the candid, personal reflections of the astronauts heading back to the moon. Listeners are left with a sense of excitement, humility, and national (and global) purpose as America prepares to leap once more into deep space.

Transcript

[Scott Detrow]

Americans are divided on fundamental questions about our country. Who's an American? That was at issue at the Supreme Court on Wednesday as the justices considered the constitutionality of birthright citizenship. Another question what is America's role in the world? President Trump weighs in on that Wednesday night in an Oval Office address on what comes next in the US Israel, war with Iran. But there's a mission that historically has soared above those disagreements, one that has captured our collective imagination for generations.

[John F. Kennedy]

Many years ago, the great British explorer George Mallory, who was to die on Mount Everest, was asked why did he want to climb it. He said, because it is there. Well, space is there and we're going to climb it. And the moon and the planets are there, and new hopes for knowledge and peace are there. And therefore, as we set sail, we ask God's blessing on the most hazardous and dangerous and greatest adventure on which man has ever embarked.

[Scott Detrow]

That's President John F. Kennedy talking about the US effort to get to the moon in September 1962. That goal would be realized just shy of seven years later, on July 20,

[Morba Jhaw]

1969, 30ft down two and a half,

[Scott Detrow]

picking up some dust when Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin landed on the moon.

[Morba Jhaw]

That's one small step for one giant leap for mankind.

[Scott Detrow]

With Artemis, two American astronauts take a giant leap forward in the effort to return to the moon. Consider this the quest to reach the moon has always been a key part of the American myth, and so has the country's embrace of immigrants and its vision of itself as a defender of democracy around the world. On a day all three are in play, we will meet the crew at Headed out toward the Moon. From npr, I'm Scott Detrow.

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[Scott Detrow]

It's consider this from npr. Four people are about to make world and lunar history. The crew of NASA's Artemis 2 mission will be lifting off on a 10 day mission that will take them off planet Earth beyond orbit. It will take them all the way to the moon. They'll fly around it and back, becoming the first people to do so in more than half a century. It's a big moment for NASA. Two summers ago, I visited the crew at the Johnson Space center in Houston. I wanted to get a sense of what it is like to prepare for the mission.

[Reid Wiseman]

Actually kneel down kind of facing the ground.

[Scott Detrow]

Captain Reid Wiseman guided me as I awkwardly crouch down, trying not to bang my head and trying to figure out how to wedge myself into the front of the training mockup of an Orion space capsule.

[Reid Wiseman]

We gotta teach you how to do this like an astronaut. Okay. And now you just kinda start rolling your way in. Don't scratch your watch. Yep. And now your feet come up and over and I'm in.

[Scott Detrow]

Perfect. It should be said he was much more smooth about making his way into the tiny space. In the training capsule. Situated on our backs, we could see through four port windows. When we craned our necks up and looking straight forward, we were flush against a complicated panel of screens, knobs and switches, some of which they hope they will never need to touch.

[Reid Wiseman]

In general, the switches are not intended to be used if everything is going well. Okay, these switches are last ditch efforts. Like for here, this is main parachute deploy. So if we are in a really bad day and our main parachute does not deploy, moving this switch will send an electrical signal from the battery direct to the employment motors.

[Scott Detrow]

The screens display dense lines of flight data. To me they're all random numbers. To Wiseman, they're telling a high stakes story.

[Reid Wiseman]

This doesn't look like much, but this will be the acceleration time profile for going into space. The things that we really look at are VI in the upper left. That's our velocity. When we leave planet Earth, we're zero miles an hour. And when we hit low earth orbit, we're doing 17,000 miles an hour. And then when we come back in the atmosphere, we're doing 39 times speed of sound. 25,000 miles an hour. It's crazy numbers.

[Scott Detrow]

Wiseman and three other astronauts will spend 10 days flying to the moon and back. Artemis 2 will be the first crewed mission to the moon since the end of the Apollo program. The Artemis program is intentionally more representative than Apollo was. Christina Cook will be the first woman to fly to the moon. The mission's pilot, Victor Glover, will be the first person of color to fly that far. Previously, he was the first black astronaut to live on the International Space Station. He was training elsewhere on the day I visited NASA, but spoke to NPR. At another point.

[Victor Glover]

We get to do something that's just wholly unique in all of human experience. We are all trying to move the needle forward, trying to make things better for humanity. And in doing that, we are also making it better for the groups that we come from or represent.

[Scott Detrow]

It's all as historic and high stakes as it gets and also pretty daunting. There's that whole 25,000 mile an hour re entry to think about and also the fact the crew will have to spend 10 whole days in this small capsule, about 12ft wide inside, but in many places just 5ft or so tall.

[Christina Cook]

It's a lot bigger in 3D when you can float around. That's what I'm telling myself, yeah.

[Scott Detrow]

Mission specialist Christina Cook, like Wiseman, has been to space before. She spent nearly a year on the International Space Station.

[Christina Cook]

The other day we figured out where we might all hang our sleeping bags. One person will be bat like and hang in kind of from to describe it in the top part of what you can imagine the capsule shape is there's a little bit of a little pop up a tunnel. And so that will be where they hang either feet up or head up. And then the other folks are kind of be more like what you might consider horizontal with what is the bigger base of the capsule or the floor kind of.

[Reid Wiseman]

That seems like the cozy spot.

[Christina Cook]

That's what I'm saying.

[Reid Wiseman]

I like how Christina didn't identify that. She has already declared that spot hers, but we know that is her spot.

[Scott Detrow]

Along with Glover, Cook and Wiseman, Mission Specialist Jeremy Hansen rounds out the crew they've been preparing since April 2023, spending hundreds of hours in this mockup capsule and other simulators.

[Reid Wiseman]

Every time you push a button, you take that split second before you push that button to think what is this button about to do to this vehicle? And, and where am I going to be after I push that button? And that is a huge challenge to think through all of that.

[Scott Detrow]

Artemis 2 is effectively a test flight if anything goes wrong for the Artemis crew between the Earth and the Moon. Resources, the forces of gravity and just sheer distance from everybody else makes the contingency plan very different.

[Morba Jhaw]

There isn't this kind of backup system because they're going to be very far away.

[Scott Detrow]

That's Morba Jhaw, a professor of aerospace engineering and engineering mechanics at UT Austin.

[Morba Jhaw]

You know, we don't have more of these Orions just sitting on shelves to go launch, you know, the backup and rendezvous with them and all this other stuff. Like they're gonna have to figure it out or not.

[Scott Detrow]

Which is why, as Jeremy Hansen underscored, all the training and preparation on the ground is so essential.

[Jeremy Hansen]

We have super smart people who try to dream up all the things that could go wrong and then we try to have a backup plan or a redundant system. But at the end of the day, we also know there are the unknown unknowns and there's risk involved. And part of the preparation of going to do something like this is understanding that there's a very real chance you don't come back. We're trying to understand the risks that we're taking and make an intentional decision to accept that risk or not accept that risk. And I feel really good about this program and the leadership and their courage to make hard decisions.

[Scott Detrow]

Assuming everything goes according to plan, though, the crew has quite the to do list and quite the view. Here's Cook.

[Christina Cook]

Our primary task is observing, observing the Moon in the short period of time that we have our flyby. Our job is to tell the scientists back home the things that lunar probes can't see or tell. And that is what colors do human eyes see, what observations, large scale do we see? And it's a, it's a supreme responsibility to have eyes on the far side of the Moon. We hope that we'll be able to see it depending on its phase.

[Scott Detrow]

I do wonder, like when you think about your mindset, when you think about what you have to do, how much just the enormity of going to the moon, do you let the Neil Armstrong of it all kind of get into your head day to day?

[Christina Cook]

I like to allow space for that every once in a while. And for me, allowing about two seconds every couple months is enough. The enormity when it hits me is there and it's important, but for the most part I'm focusing on the mission.

[Reid Wiseman]

Scott, as you were asking that question, that's very similar, but I have to expand two seconds because last night I was in bed getting ready to go to sleep. And that started thinking about riding this gigantic rocket, going all the way out to the moon with Christina. VICTOR Jeremy and I had to get up and go for a walk around my living room for a second because I just couldn't get myself back into the mode of going to sleep. And I knew I needed to rest. But sometimes it does. Sometimes it hits you, and then most of the time it's just kind of

[Scott Detrow]

in the background talking to npr. VICTOR glover, Put it this way, one

[Victor Glover]

of the biggest challenges is going to be finding those quiet moments in that time to record and reflect and be in the moment, because it'll be over so quickly. So just I think a challenge will just be to really immerse and enjoy it in the moment.

[Scott Detrow]

The world has changed a lot since astronauts last flew to the moon more than a half century ago. The sum total of the computing technology that powered the Apollo missions is inside most people's pockets. It's on their wrists. So after more than half a century going back to the moon, it feels long overdue.

[Christina Cook]

When I look at humanity and the call to explore that humans have put out there, we were always going to go back to the moon and go back to stay. And so our role is just really answering that call.

[Scott Detrow]

This episode was produced by Michael Levitt, Mark Rivers and Connor Donovan. It was edited by Ashley Brown and Courtney Dorning. NPR Scott Newman contributed to the episode. Our executive producer is Sammy Yenigun. It's consider this from npr. I'm scott detrowed.