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Ilsa Chang
It's consider this where every day we go deep on one big news story. And today, the legacy of the man who changed the way we get the news.
Christiane Amanpour
If Alexander the Great could conquer the known world, why couldn't I start cnn?
Ilsa Chang
That is CNN founder Ted Turner speaking to Oprah Winfrey. Turner transformed the media industry and revolutionized television news when he launched the Cable News Network, or CNN, in 1980. It was the country's first, first 24 hour news channel.
Christiane Amanpour
You can do so much more in 24 hours than you can in 24 minutes.
Ilsa Chang
Turner died Wednesday at the age of 87. Ted Turner changed the way we consume the news. How did he do it and where are we now? From npr, I'm Ilsa Chang. This message comes from NPR sponsor Carvana. Your time is worth more than a waiting game. Carvana gives you a transparent offer for your car in minutes and picks it up from your door. Sell your car today@carvana.com pickup fees may apply.
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Ilsa Chang
consider this from npr. When the US And Israel bomb Iran and start a war, we know about it moments after it started, sometimes even moments before. When Russian tanks cross the border into Ukraine, we watch as it is happening. And when after five decades, the US Returns to the moon, that feat is beamed all around the world. This access to immediacy, our ability to be there as history is unfolding. Much of that is possible thanks to the vision of CNN film founder Ted Turner. He was affectionately known as the mouth of the south, and he transformed the way the world got its news when he founded the 247 News Network in 1980. And one person who played a key role in that legacy as well is CNN chief international anchor Christiane Amanpour. She started at CNN as a desk assistant back in 1983. Welcome, Christiane.
Christiane Amanpour
Wow, Elsa, thank you. And the way you put it really brings back so many memories.
Ilsa Chang
I can imagine. Well, as I mentioned, you began at CNN almost at the very beginning of the network. What was it like back then to be there? What was Ted Turner like back then?
Christiane Amanpour
It was amazing. I joined three years after the start, so I've been there 43 years. CNN is in my DNA. But who knew? You know, a lot of us people of my generation who joined as desk assistants or video assistants or whatever the VJs, video journalists, like, we literally used to say to ourselves, well, we're all just undergrads, none of us have gone to graduate school, but this is our graduate school on the job, and we're going to get all the experience we need to go off to the big leagues. And so it was this unbelievable gathering of eager, passionate, mission driven young journalists who had the rarest of rarest things. And that was a boss who we worshiped and admired. I mean, it is not too much to say that he was the commander and we were the foot soldiers. And when Ted Turner said something, we saluted and said, yes, sir, and did it because we knew that this was somebody who guided us correctly, guided the world correctly, and with his information revolution, decided to do something to the benefit of the world. It wasn't what we see now with the cynicism and the destructive elements that we can see in so much of today's mass media. It actually was born to try to really kind of save mankind.
Ilsa Chang
How about for you personally? How did Turner's vision of the world and of journalism's role in it influence your own approach to your own work? As someone who has helped explain so many world events to audiences for decades, it was fundamental.
Christiane Amanpour
I absolutely could not believe my luck when I ended up as a, as I say, an undergrad desk assistant in Atlanta. I'd come from England, I'd before that come from Iran. So Iran is what turned me into wanting to be a journalist. And I landed in Atlanta, of all places, at the mouth of the south, you know, chicken noodle news, to try to become a foreign correspondent. And that's the vision I had. And I could see it being emulated all around me. It was being done. We became the preeminent international news gatherers because of CNN's vision and because he insisted, because of Ted Turner's vision, who insisted that we cover all sides of every story. During the first Gulf War, which launched CNN as an international behemoth, Ted said that we had to be in Baghdad as well, which was on the receiving end of all the firepower from the United States. There was a raid in Saudi Arabia to try to get Saddam out of Kuwait. And he said, we have to be behind enemy lines. We have to cover all sides of the story. And so he made it voluntary.
Ilsa Chang
On a personal level, though, I mean, he was known for having this huge personality, some people might call it brash. He could certainly rub a lot of people the wrong way. Was that part of his charm, Cristiano, or did it sometimes interfere with his mission and the way he related to people at work?
Christiane Amanpour
You see, I don't think so. Ted was a very different person. He was an individual, and I just loved it. Every time he says something controversial, I'm thinking, wow, he's got such cojones, you know, and he's dashing and he's handsome and he's swashbuckling and he's with us. He lived, you know, in Atlanta, but often he stayed in his sort of office apartment above the studio, above the newsroom for whatever reasons. And he would come down in the crack of dawn morning to get his crappy coffee, coffee from the break room right near the news desk and everything. And he would be in his pajamas and his robe, and we'd go, whoa, what is happening? And it would be like, you know, parting of the Red Sea. We'd all stand back and Ted would, you know, sashay through the newsroom. But Ted was with us.
Ilsa Chang
Yeah. You know, so much has been said about the immediacy that CNN brought to broadcast news, giving audiences a chance to feel like they are there as something is happening. But do you think that there have been costs to that? Does that expectation of trying to be fast and on all the time, can that sometimes take away from the journalistic mission, too?
Christiane Amanpour
Look, I think that's a valid question to ask. Throughout the decades that followed the launch of cnn, and there have been many, many iterations of trying to, you know, toe the actual journalistic line, not just at cnn, but in many, many other places. I always say that he's the one who started 247 for all the right reasons, including to break down the barriers when he centered internationally between authoritarian states and their people. Those with a satellite dish or with the ability to, you know, connect could see a whole different world view. So it was super important. But I do agree that there has been, you know, subsequently, too much of a focus on the titillating, on the sensational, on lots of things that have degraded our public square and our public discourse and therefore our civil society and our civilization, civic community. And I think Ted was always super conscious of that. You know, when he did the. He ordered the cameras to be 247 on little Jessica in the. Well, that was, you know, practically at the beginning of cnn. That was to bring a community together, as well as being excellent for ratings. It brought people together. The whole country was on the edge of their seat, hoping that this little girl would be pulled out alive and by and large. It wasn't political. It was about policy. It was about the actual events. It was about facts. It was about reporting the story. It was about being eyes and ears. And those are the days that I miss.
Ilsa Chang
CNN Chief International anchor Christiane Amanpour, thank you so much for sharing your reflections about Ted Turner with us.
Christiane Amanpour
It was my pleasure and my privilege.
Ilsa Chang
This episode was produced by Erica Ryan and Karen Zamora with audio engineering by Ted Mebane. It was edited by Courtney Dorney. Our executive producer is Sammy Yenigun. It's consider this from npr. I'm Ailsa Chang.
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This episode of "Consider This" explores the transformative legacy of Ted Turner, the visionary founder of CNN who reimagined how news is delivered and consumed. Host Ailsa Chang interviews CNN’s Chief International Anchor, Christiane Amanpour, who shares firsthand accounts of Turner’s larger-than-life personality, his journalistic mission, and the impact of 24/7 news coverage on the industry and society. The conversation offers both affectionate memories and nuanced reflection on the evolution of news media.
“We literally used to say to ourselves, well, we're all just undergrads... but this is our graduate school on the job... It was this unbelievable gathering of eager, passionate, mission driven young journalists who had the rarest of rarest things. And that was a boss who we worshiped and admired.” ([03:05])
“It is not too much to say that he was the commander and we were the foot soldiers. And when Ted Turner said something, we saluted and said, yes, sir... We knew that this was somebody who guided us correctly, guided the world correctly, and with his information revolution, decided to do something to the benefit of the world.”
“We became the preeminent international news gatherers because of CNN’s vision... he insisted... that we cover all sides of every story.”
She cites the Gulf War as pivotal, when Turner mandated reporting from both sides—even Baghdad ([04:37]).
“He made it voluntary. He said, ‘We have to be behind enemy lines. We have to cover all sides of the story.’”
“Every time he says something controversial, I’m thinking, wow, he’s got such cojones... he’s dashing and he’s handsome and he’s swashbuckling and he’s with us.”
She recalls how he’d waltz into the newsroom in pajamas to grab coffee, signaling his hands-on leadership ([05:58]): “And it would be like, you know, parting of the Red Sea. We’d all stand back and Ted would, you know, sashay through the newsroom. But Ted was with us.”
“I think that’s a valid question to ask... There has been, you know, subsequently, too much of a focus on the titillating, on the sensational, on lots of things that have degraded our public square and our public discourse and therefore our civil society and our civilization.” ([07:05])
“He’s the one who started 24/7 for all the right reasons, including to break down the barriers... Those with a satellite dish or with the ability to, you know, connect could see a whole different world view.” She reminisces about the 24/7 coverage of the Jessica McClure (“Baby Jessica”) rescue, which united a country: “It brought people together. The whole country was on the edge of their seat, hoping that this little girl would be pulled out alive... It was about policy. It was about the actual events. It was about facts. It was about reporting the story. It was about being eyes and ears. And those are the days that I miss.” ([07:05])
“It actually was born to try to really kind of save mankind.” — Christiane Amanpour ([03:05])
“There has been... too much of a focus on the titillating, on the sensational, on lots of things that have degraded our public square and our public discourse...” — Christiane Amanpour ([07:05])
“He would be in his pajamas and his robe, and we’d go, whoa, what is happening? And it would be like, you know, parting of the Red Sea... But Ted was with us.” — Christiane Amanpour ([05:58])
The episode paints a nuanced portrait of Ted Turner as both an industry revolutionary and a deeply involved, memorable leader. Christiane Amanpour’s reflections highlight the optimism and ambition of CNN’s founding, as well as her concerns about the sensationalism that constant news cycles can breed. Ultimately, Ted Turner’s legacy remains that of a man who forever changed how history’s biggest moments reach the world.