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Episode: The Trump administration wants to increase apprenticeships
Date: March 11, 2026
Host: Scott Detrow
Correspondent: Andrea Hsu
Featured Guest: Steve Presley, General Manager, Virco Manufacturing

Overview

This episode explores the Trump administration’s push to expand apprenticeships as a practical solution to America’s shortage of skilled workers in manufacturing and other industries. Scott Detrow and NPR labor correspondent Andrea Hsu examine whether these efforts, such as ambitious targets and federal incentives, are meeting the country’s needs—and what’s happening on the factory floor in Arkansas, where the issue is felt daily.

Key Discussion Points

The State of American Manufacturing (00:00 – 01:56)

• Virco Manufacturing in Arkansas makes school furniture from raw steel, illustrating the intersection of traditional manufacturing and modern technology.
• Once employing 1,500 people, the plant now has about 500 staff members amid increased automation—robots weld the steel, but skilled workers are still essential for operating and maintaining such technology.
• Challenges:
  • Aging workforce and retirements: “We’ve probably had 250 years retire since the first of the year.” – Steve Presley (01:51)
  • Difficulty hiring skilled labor in a strong local economy with a lot of competition.

Trump Administration’s Apprenticeship Initiative (01:56 – 05:29)

• Trump’s administration set a bold goal: 1 million active apprentices.
• Apprenticeships are seen as a “win-win”: workers get paid while they learn, and companies build the skilled workforce they need.
• While the model is longstanding in U.S. building trades (plumbers, carpenters, electricians), other sectors lag behind compared to countries like Germany and Switzerland.
• Recent Actions:
  • Trump signed an executive order to spur growth in apprenticeships.
  • The Labor Department promoted the initiative, including via social media:
    “The new era of American dominance will be forged not by woke universities, but by the grit of our skilled workers.” – Labor Department promo, quoted by Andrea Hsu (04:37)
• Setbacks:
  • Recent job losses: 92,000 jobs lost last month, tempering optimism for apprenticeships.
  • Grant cuts: Trump administration canceled grants that were helping expand apprenticeships, including in clean energy.
  • No ask to Congress for additional funding; only $285 million appropriated in recent years.

Funding: Is It Enough? (05:29 – 06:30)

• Experts argue funding is insufficient for truly transformative expansion:
  • “I think we’re looking at a number that has to start with a B in order to make any progress on apprenticeships in the United States.” – Zach Boren, Apprenticeships for America (05:48)
• Of the allocated funds, about $180 million is available for incentive programs in IT, AI, defense, healthcare, and manufacturing, aiming to generate roughly 50,000 new apprenticeships—not near the million-mark goal.
• The hope: initial incentives will create momentum as companies see return on investment.

On the Ground: Apprenticeships at Virco Manufacturing (06:30 – 07:39)

• Steve Presley of Virco didn’t first hear about apprenticeships from the federal government, but through a local nonprofit called Apprenticely.
• Virco is setting up a small but growing apprenticeship program, supported by federal incentives—$3,000 per apprentice.
• Presley’s main motivation is sustainability and legacy:
  • “In the middle of the summer, when we have say 20 of these assembly lines running, the radios are cranked up, all you hear are the rivet machines and the screw guns and all that, and it's truly like American manufacturing at its finest.” – Steve Presley (07:25)
• Presley believes the future of his company depends on a skilled, replenished workforce—not merely on small federal grants.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On generational change:
  “My dad drug our butt in here and we worked every Saturday and Sunday and we worked in maintenance department.” – Steve Presley (00:29)

• On the workforce challenge:
  “That’s where we’re really behind the eight ball.” – Steve Presley (01:28)

• On federal funding needs:
  “I think we’re looking at a number that has to start with a B in order to make any progress on apprenticeships in the United States.” – Zach Boren (05:48)

• On company pride:
  “It's truly like American manufacturing at its finest.” – Steve Presley (07:25)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00–01:56: Virco Manufacturing example, the shrinking and aging workforce, and manufacturing’s modern challenges.
• 03:08–03:33: Andrea Hsu explains the appeal and workings of apprenticeships.
• 04:20–05:23: Assessment of Trump administration’s actions, grant cancellations, and lack of additional funding.
• 05:29–06:30: Zach Boren critiques federal funding as insufficient.
• 06:35–07:39: Andrea Hsu describes how apprenticeships are playing out at Virco; Steve Presley shares his optimism and vision.

Conclusion

This concise episode highlights the divide between ambitious federal targets and the practical, on-the-ground effort required to grow America’s skilled workforce. While companies like Virco Manufacturing are eager for solutions and federal support, experts and insiders caution that without much greater investment, meaningful change may remain elusive.