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White House Press Secretary
This morning, the Supreme Court has delivered a monumental victory for the Constitution, the separation of powers, and the rule of law.
Scott Detrow
On Friday, President Trump hailed a series of rulings, the final decisions of the Supreme Court's term, as victories for his administration.
White House Press Secretary
In recent months, we've seen a handful of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the rightful powers of the president.
Scott Detrow
In one of the most high profile cases of this term, the high court curbed the power of federal judges from lower courts to issue nationwide injunctions to block a president from enacting executive orders and other policies.
White House Press Secretary
We can now promptly file to proceed with numerous policies that have been wrongly enjoined on a nationwide basis.
Scott Detrow
That decision is closely intertwined with Trump's efforts to end birthright citizenship, but the court did not rule on the merits of that case. After the decision. Massachusetts Attorney General Andrea Campbell, one of the lawyers representing the state suing the Trump administration, expressed her dismay.
Andrea Campbell
We are deeply disappointed that the court did not decide today that a nationwide injunction is warranted so that no matter where in the United States a baby is born, that baby will continue to be a citizen.
Scott Detrow
She and other state attorneys general admitted that the court's ruling on nationwide injunctions was a serious blow, but vowed to continue fighting for birthright citizenship. Consider this, a number of Supreme Court decisions handed down this term have expanded the power of the presidency while limiting the power of the courts. So how has this term changed the relationship of the judicial and the executive branches? From npr, I'm Scott Detrow.
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Scott Detrow
It's Consider this from NPR. The Supreme Court's term is now over. And once again, the executive branch is emerging from the term more powerful. So what do we make of the court's rulings, and how far do they exactly go? Here to answer those questions is Bloomberg News Supreme Court reporter Greg Storr. Greg, thanks for being here.
Greg Storr
Thanks for having me, Scott.
Scott Detrow
Let's start with this birthright citizenship case. This is complicated because it involves this core question of who is a US.
Legal Analyst
Citizen, but it was actually fundamentally about whether or not federal judges have the authority to issue nationwide injunctions.
Scott Detrow
What did the court say about each of those issues?
Greg Storr
Well, first of all, you're right that it wasn't about the legality of Donald Trump's restrictions on birthright citizenship. It was all about the power of federal judges and what they can do when they decide that something an administration or any other government entity is doing is illegal. And the Supreme Court said the thing that they've been doing a lot, which is issuing nationwide injunctions, maybe a single person or a single group sues and a judge blocks a policy nationwide, they can't do that anymore. That is beyond the power of the federal judiciary.
Scott Detrow
That has been such a key feature.
Legal Analyst
Of our politics for more than a decade now. You go back to the Obama administration, a president tries to do something, somebody sues, it's held up.
Scott Detrow
What does this ruling mean going forward.
Legal Analyst
For those challenges that we've become so accustomed to?
Greg Storr
Unquestionably, it will make it more difficult. But the court did leave open some other avenues, and we'll have to see how broad those avenues are. One of them is that people can bring class actions and you have to go through some more hoops. It's not automatic. But if you can file a lawsuit and people may try to do that in birthright citizenship, actually, they've already tried to do that in birthright citizenship to say, hey, we're filing on behalf of everybody who's like us across the country or maybe just in the state or something like that. Judge, can you give us an order blocking the policy as to that class? That's at least still a theoretical avenue for them.
Scott Detrow
But this topic is such an extreme.
Legal Analyst
Example of the questions that this raises. Right. Because this creates this patchwork approach of if you're part of the initial challenge, it applies to you. It doesn't apply to other people.
Scott Detrow
I mean, what does that mean for people born in the United States to people who aren't here legally? Are you a citizen in one state.
Legal Analyst
Or not a citizen in another state?
Scott Detrow
At the moment?
Greg Storr
Not at the moment. It is a possible outcome of this. So this is a very complicated thing. And so that's part of the reason why you don't want to jump to too many conclusions. There's also this issue that some states have sued. And so I think that's what you were alluding to, that in the state of New Jersey, for example, it may be we end up in a world where, if you're born in New Jersey, a baby is a citizen, but if born in a state that's not part of the suit, they're not a citizen. But we're not there yet. And these are issues that the lower courts are gonna have to work out.
Legal Analyst
These injunctions against the Trump administration have been a major part of the news cycle this year. What happens to all of the ones that had already been issued across a wide range of things that Trump is trying to do?
Greg Storr
Well, the president said that they are going to try to block a lot of these nationwide injunctions, citing the Supreme Court ruling. And those may well be successful in a lot of cases. And in each of those, the question will then be, how about those other avenues? Is there a way that somebody can bring a class action and get to the same place? And I don't think we know the answer to that. I think it's just going to take a while to.
Legal Analyst
I want to come back to these big questions about power, but first, I do want to talk about one other ruling at the end of the term. This came from a group of parents in Maryland suing to opt to get their children out of lessons that included books with LGBTQ characters.
Scott Detrow
The court handed them a victory yesterday.
Legal Analyst
What are the implications for parents and for schools from that ruling?
Greg Storr
Well, it's certainly a significant decision. It's one that said that because parents have a right to control the religious upbringing of their children, that they constitutionally have to have a right to get notice and to opt out of lessons if it violates their religious beliefs. It's going to make it harder for schools to incorporate some things into the classroom, for sure. Because if parents have a right to opt out of things anytime they do something that maybe bumps up against religious views, there's the risk that it will be much harder to present that lesson in class and they'll have to jump through some big hoops. And the dissenters in that certainly said that this is a huge problem for public education.
Legal Analyst
The conservative supermajority on the court is a huge storyline for several years now. What to you was most interesting, most surprising, about how those six Republican appointed judges voted this year.
Greg Storr
Certainly the birthright citizenship case was a surprise in that I think a lot of people on both sides of this issue think that even if you think there's a problem with nationwide injunctions, this was a rough case to test it on because this is an order that an executive order Trump administration that clearly goes against what most people have thought is the understanding of the Constitution for the past 150plus years. The fact that the majority chose that case to raise this issue and thereby giving Donald Trump what seems to be a pretty significant win was certainly noteworthy. And then just more generally, looking at the way the six Republican appointed justices were pretty much all in alignment on the biggest cases as we headed to the end of the term was very striking.
Legal Analyst
What were your main takeaways from how Justice Amy Coney Barrett ruled this year? She, of course, authored the opinion that we've been mostly talking about in this conversation, but she's also been a justice that a lot of people have been really trying to scrutinize this year.
Greg Storr
Yeah, there were certainly times earlier in the term where she aligned herself with the liberal justices, the three Democratic appointees. And there was a lot of talk of Amy Coney Barrett not so much being a moderate or not so much being a swing vote, but being somebody who's a little more restrained in what she wants to do than some of her conservative colleagues. But in all the other big cases, pretty much all the big ones that we might talk about are ones where she joined her fellow conservatives.
Legal Analyst
People in institutions don't usually willingly hand over power, but I'm thinking about this ruling kind of really scaling back the federal court's ability, or at least lower court judges ability to issue nationwide injunctions and last year's ruling giving big swaths of immunity to sitting executives.
Scott Detrow
Do you see a connection between the.
Legal Analyst
Two of them and what the six justices in the majority see as the proper balance between the federal courts and the executive branch?
Greg Storr
Well, certainly it's a court that believes in a strong executive. In a whole lot of ways. This birthright citizenship decision does restrict the power of lower court judges. It doesn't restrict the Supreme Court's power, however. And in a concurring opinion, Justice Kavanaugh made that very clear that what this means is that probably some of these issues are going to get to us more quickly and we're going to be the ones who have to decide something. So it is a court that wants to restrain the judiciary in some respects, but ultimately it's reserving a pretty fair amount of power for itself.
Legal Analyst
What remaining big questions do you have now the term has ended. A lot of the big rulings that you've been waiting for are out there to start kind of processing what are the questions in your mind right now.
Greg Storr
So one big thing that didn't get a whole lot of attention on Friday was a non ruling. It's a case involving the Voting Rights act and a Louisiana congressional map that drew a second majority black district. Now, for decades, the courts have construed the 1965 Voting Rights act as saying essentially if there's a way to draw a majority black, majority Hispanic district so that those voters can elect the candidate of their choice, there's a pretty good chance you're going to have to do that. And by in this case that they were considering the issues before them were kind of technical and narrow. And the court said we're not going to decide that right now. Instead we're going to hear arguments again in the fall. And they didn't say what they're going to consider, but several of the conservative justices have suggested what they are interested in doing is considering whether this whole thing is still constitutional, namely the notion of drawing districts so that black and Hispanic voters have a chance to elect the candidates of their choice. And that would throw out decades of practice and would certainly upend the makeup of our legislatures.
Legal Analyst
And it's right that that is a question that Chief Justice Roberts has repeatedly been asking in decisions and opinions over many years.
Greg Storr
Now at this point, it's certainly an interest of his, very much so that he does not like racial classifications. He's made very clear he sees the Constitution as being colorblind. And some other justices, like Brett Kavanaugh have suggested that they look at the Voting Rights act as something that maybe was constitutional originally, but maybe has sort of outlived its time and that maybe it no longer meets the current needs of society, that the problem that it was designed to address is no longer there.
Scott Detrow
That is Bloomberg News Supreme Court reporter Greg Storr.
Legal Analyst
Greg, thanks so much for coming in.
Greg Storr
My pleasure.
Scott Detrow
This episode was produced by Avery Keatley. It was edited by Elizabeth Johnson. Our executive producer is Sammy Yenigan. It's Consider this from npr. I'm Scott Detrow.
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**Podcast Summary: "What This Term Says About Where the Supreme Court Is Headed"
Title: Consider This from NPR
Host/Author: NPR
Release Date: June 29, 2025
In the June 29, 2025 episode of NPR's Consider This, host Scott Detrow delves into the landmark Supreme Court decisions of the recent term and their implications for the balance of power between the judiciary and the executive branches of the U.S. government. The episode features an in-depth conversation with Greg Storr, a Supreme Court reporter from Bloomberg News, who provides expert analysis on the court's rulings and their broader impact on American politics and society.
One of the most significant rulings of the term involves the Supreme Court's decision to curtail the authority of federal judges to issue nationwide injunctions. This ruling effectively prevents lower court judges from halting presidential executive orders and policies on a nationwide scale.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
White House Press Secretary at [00:00]: "This morning, the Supreme Court has delivered a monumental victory for the Constitution, the separation of powers, and the rule of law."
The court's decision indirectly affects the ongoing legal battles over birthright citizenship, a policy that grants automatic U.S. citizenship to individuals born on American soil. While the court did not rule directly on the citizenship issue, the limitation on nationwide injunctions has significant implications.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
Andrea Campbell at [00:58]: "We are deeply disappointed that the court did not decide today that a nationwide injunction is warranted so that no matter where in the United States a baby is born, that baby will continue to be a citizen."
Another pivotal case addressed the rights of parents to opt their children out of educational content that conflicts with their religious beliefs, specifically concerning LGBTQ-inclusive materials in schools.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
Greg Storr at [06:34]: "Well, it's certainly a significant decision. It's one that said that because parents have a right to control the religious upbringing of their children, that they constitutionally have to have a right to get notice and to opt out of lessons if it violates their religious beliefs."
Although not a direct ruling, the Supreme Court declined to make a decision on a case involving the Voting Rights Act and Louisiana's congressional map drawing a second majority Black district. This non-ruling signals the court's intent to revisit the matter in the fall.
Key Points:
The Supreme Court's recent decisions reflect a clear trend towards empowering the executive branch while limiting the judiciary's ability to check presidential actions. By restricting nationwide injunctions, the court is facilitating a stronger executive influence over national policies without the immediate oversight of lower courts.
Notable Quote:
Greg Storr at [04:04]: "The president said that they are going to try to block a lot of these nationwide injunctions, citing the Supreme Court ruling. And those may well be successful in a lot of cases."
This shift raises concerns about the potential for increased executive power and reduced judicial accountability, fundamentally altering the balance of governance in the United States.
The term highlighted the cohesiveness of the conservative supermajority on the Supreme Court, particularly among the six Republican-appointed justices. Their unanimous or near-unanimous decisions in major cases underscore a unified ideological direction for the court.
Justice Barrett, who has been under scrutiny for her moderate and restrained approach, demonstrated a strong alignment with her conservative colleagues in crucial rulings.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
Greg Storr at [07:35]: "There was a lot of talk of Amy Coney Barrett not so much being a moderate or not so much being a swing vote, but being somebody who's a little more restrained in what she wants to do than some of her conservative colleagues. But in all the other big cases... she joined her fellow conservatives."
As the Supreme Court's term concludes, several pressing questions remain about the future direction of the judiciary and its relationship with other branches of government:
These unresolved issues suggest that the Supreme Court will continue to play a pivotal role in shaping American policy and governance in the coming years.
Notable Quote:
Greg Storr at [10:13]: "Some other justices, like Brett Kavanaugh have suggested that they look at the Voting Rights act as something that maybe was constitutional originally, but maybe has sort of outlived its time and that maybe it no longer meets the current needs of society."
The June 29, 2025, episode of Consider This provides a comprehensive overview of the Supreme Court's impactful decisions during the latest term. Through expert analysis and insightful discussions, listeners gain a deeper understanding of how these rulings are reshaping the power dynamics between the judiciary and the executive branch, as well as their broader implications for American society. As the court's conservative supermajority continues to steer major legal decisions, the future landscape of U.S. law and governance appears poised for significant transformation.
Produced by: Avery Keatley
Edited by: Elizabeth Johnson
Executive Producer: Sammy Yenigan
Host: Scott Detrow