When ICE offers job opportunities in small towns

Summary

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Episode: When ICE offers job opportunities in small towns
Date: October 20, 2025
Host: Ailsa Chang
Reporter: Sergio Martinez Beltran

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Overview

This episode explores how the push for mass deportations by the Trump administration is transforming small towns across America, focusing especially on Folkestone, Georgia. Through key interviews and on-the-ground reporting, NPR investigates how expanded ICE detention facilities affect local economies, job markets, community identity, and the ethical dilemmas faced by residents and prospective ICE employees.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Push for Expanded Immigration Enforcement

• Logistical Barriers, Not Just Laws: The Trump administration’s mass deportation efforts are limited by logistics: not enough detention beds or immigration agents.
  • "The main obstacles...haven’t been legal or political. They’ve been logistical limits created by a lack of available detention beds or immigration agents." — Ailsa Chang (00:00)
• Massive Recruitment Effort: Recent legislation funded 3,000 new Border Patrol officers and 10,000 new ICE agents.
  • "We will hire 3,000 new Border Patrol officers and 10,000 new ICE agents." — NPR Narrator (00:24)

2. Recruitment in Small Towns: Job Fairs and Applicants

• Job Seekers’ Motivations: At a Utah DHS career expo, many applicants were motivated by limited local opportunities or strong support for Trump’s deportation goals.
  • "I don't think I’d qualify for a whole lot else. Deportation officer." — Anonymous Applicant (00:52)
• Younger Recruits: Lowering ICE officer age requirements to 18 brought in applicants uncertain about the agency's mission but seeking stable work.
  • "I’m gonna be so honest, I don’t see myself in ICE. It was more of just a job opportunity." — Mayan Beaumont (01:57)

3. Folkestone, Georgia: A Town Transformed

• Economic Impact: The town’s population is about to balloon as a new ICE center becomes the largest in the US, creating hundreds of jobs and reshaping the local economy.
  • "This is the largest ICE processing facility in the United States right here." — Glen Hall, County Administrator (05:18)
• Community Reactions:
  • Support for Jobs: Many, like Luke Harris, note the positive effect on employment and local businesses:
    • "These are high-paying jobs with benefits. A big deal for a struggling town." — Glen Hall paraphrased by Narrator (05:03)
  • Moral Uncertainty and Identity: Others, such as Savannah Pollock, worry about the town’s identity being tied to immigration detention:
    • "I don’t want to be known for that because our reputation ain’t that." — Savannah Pollock (09:45)

4. Ethical and Human Rights Concerns

• Harsh Conditions for Detainees: Recent detainee allegations include freezing temperatures, mold, bad water, and racism.
  • "Help. They ain't treating us good out here." — Detainee, shouted from behind the fence (07:25)
• Private Prisons and Profit: The center is run by GEO Group, a private firm; critics argue it’s a business prioritizing profit over community or detainee wellbeing.
  • "What makes them money is locking people up." — Samantha Hamilton, Immigration Attorney (09:22)

5. Fragile Economic Dependence

• A Town ‘Held Hostage’: The town’s reliance on the detention center follows a history of economic instability (hospital, mills, and mines shut down in the past).
  • "We are supporting a major federal policy with this administration, and we need a hospital." — Glen Hall (08:54)
• Concerns About Sustainability:
  • "This is just something you don’t want to build your future upon, something that changes every four years." — Savannah Pollock (08:17)

6. Larger Implications & Closing

• Unprecedented Deportation Agenda: Expansion of centers like Folkestone’s is central to Trump’s policy, with over 400,000 deportations claimed so far.
  • "Expanding or creating detention centers is key in President Trump’s goal of deporting millions of undocumented immigrants..." — Sergio Martinez Beltran (10:17)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the tension between jobs and morality:
  • "I hate to say it, but if it’s not here, it’s somewhere else. So you take advantage of the stuff that you have on your table...these are people’s lives and families, but that’s the reality of it." — Local Resident (06:32)
• On Town Identity and Stigma:
  • "I hate that they’re taking advantage of us and making us look as if that’s us." — Savannah Pollock (09:54)
• On Detention Conditions and Humanity:
  • "If I was detained behind barbed wire like that, I would be only help too...that’s the humanity side of this, right?" — Local Resident (07:38)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:00-02:12] – Introduction & ICE job recruitment challenges
• [04:25-06:05] – Impact of ICE center in Folkestone: job creation, economic dependency
• [07:02-08:21] – Reports of abuse, detainee conditions, and local moral concerns
• [08:21-09:54] – Community perspectives: hopes, fears, and town identity
• [10:17-10:35] – National scope: ICE expansion as cornerstone of Trump deportation agenda

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Episode Takeaways

This episode encapsulates the profound impact that federal immigration policy and enforcement infrastructure can have on the economic and social fabric of small, rural towns. It highlights the complexity of balancing job creation with ethics and community identity, and the real human costs of a system built on detention and deportation. The episode finishes with local voices questioning what kind of community they want to be and who their town will ultimately serve.

Transcript

[Ailsa Chang]

The main obstacles to President Trump's mass deportation effort haven't been legal or political. They've been logistical limits created by a lack of available detention beds or immigration agents to make arrests. That's why Republicans included a huge increase in immigration enforcement funding in their tax and spending bill this summer.

[Local Resident / Community Member]

So this bill will also be the single most important piece of border legislation.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

Ever to cross the floor of Congress. We will hire 3,000 new Border Patrol officers and 10,000 new ICE agents.

[Ailsa Chang]

Now that is a lot of people to recruit and vet and onboard. And NPR immigration reporter Ximena Bustillo recently went to see how it's going at a career expo for the Department of Homeland Security last month in Provo, Utah, where a lot of folks were applying.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

For one job in particular, a deportation officer with ice. Ice, deportation officer.

[Local Resident / Community Member]

I don't think I'd qualify for a whole lot else. Deportation officer.

[Ailsa Chang]

When you think about the role of.

[Local Resident / Interviewee]

Deportation officer, what do you think? What help you get to do in that position?

[Local Resident / Community Member]

Deport, you know?

[Ailsa Chang]

Johnny from Oregon, Josh from Idaho and Peter from Arkansas each asked NPR not to use their last names because of fear of reprisal from the agency. They were undeterred by the small group of protesters shouting outside.

[Local Resident / Interviewee]

Don't do it.

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Don't do it.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

It's too nice.

[Ailsa Chang]

Many applicants told Jimena that they supported Trump and his goal of mass deportations of people in the US without legal state status. Or at least they weren't conflicted about the role of ice. Here's veteran Alan Richardson.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

If your employer says you got to do something, you got to go do it. But you know, I think going after the criminals is the goal here.

[Local Resident / Community Member]

There's no way you're going to deport.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

However many millions of people that are here illegally.

[Ailsa Chang]

Mayan Beaumont, though, wasn't certain it was the right fit. She applied to work for ICE because it recently lowered the age requirements from 21 to 18.

[Local Resident / Interviewee]

I'm gonna be so honest, I don't see myself in ice. It was more of just a job opportunity, but I see more of myself as like police officer, border patrol, maybe.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

Something that's not as aggressive, I guess, as ice.

[Ailsa Chang]

There is another big chunk of deportation related money in that Republican spending bill. $45 billion for new immigrant detention centers. Consider this. A small town in Georgia will soon host the largest ICE detention facility in the US that is raising hopes and fears about the future.

[Local Resident / Community Member]

This is a huge business, is it? Right? It's not for me to decide.

[Ailsa Chang]

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The NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts. It's Consider this from npr. Folkestone, Georgia, is a small rural town with a population of about 2,800 people that will soon see its population balloon as immigrant detainees fill up a growing ICE detention center at the edge of town. An old prison is now expanding to house detainees as part of President Trump's ongoing effort to deport undocumented immigrants. NPR's Sergio Martinez Beltran went to see how people in Folkestone are feeling about it.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

Luke Harris and his friend Martin Rimes are cooling off in the shade of a train viewing platform. Trains are big here. Depending who you ask, 60 to 120 trains go through Folkestone every day. Besides that, there's not much going on. Downtown has a couple of restaurants, but during the day most of them are closed. And Harry says he sees Alex a lot less unemployed people hanging out at McDonald's than he used to, partly because the ICE detention center has brought in so many new jobs.

[Local Resident / Community Member]

I got a couple friends that work out there. I see them with the uniform on all the time at the prison.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

Hold on.

[Local Resident / Interviewee]

I got a nephew that work over there.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

He's a guard. These are high paying jobs with benefits. A big deal for a struggling town. That Harris describes this don't blink, you'll miss it. Folkestone, maybe, but not the Immigration Processing Center.

[Local Resident / Community Member]

This is the largest ICE processing facility in the United States right here.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

At least it will be when it reaches capacity. That's Glen hall, the county administrator. We're standing on a dirt road on the side of the detention center. This is the closest we can get to it since ICE denied NPR's request for a tour. A grassy field surrounds this area. It's at least three city blocks. Shiny barbed wire surrounds the whole facility. A large water tower sits in the middle with GEO in giant letters, the name of the private corporation that contracts with DHS and ICE to run this place. Hall drives us past a parking lot full of employee cars.

[Local Resident / Community Member]

Obviously you can see the economic development that it has here, the impact that it has on our community with all those jobs and potentially more.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

Nearly 200 jobs so far and $260,000 to the county and more than $600,000 to of Folkestone. GEO Group's contract with the federal government for the expansion of this site is of about $96 million over two years. County Administrator hall says GEO Group has been a great partner in the community, providing scholarships and sponsoring community events for a town where more than a third of the people live below the poverty line.

[Local Resident / Community Member]

I hate to say it, but if it's not here, it's somewhere else. So you take advantage of the stuff that you have on your table. I hate to simplify that because these are people's lives and families, but that's the reality of it.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

That's the reality in this town where the detention center and a landfill are the biggest employers.

[Local Resident / Community Member]

This is a huge business, is it right? That's not for me to decide, but yeah, there is definitely a human element to this that touches my soul.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

Recently, hundreds of South Korean workers detained here after a raid at a Georgia Hyundai battery factory described freezing temperatures, moldy mattresses, foul smelling drinking water, as well as racist gestures from guards. ICE and GEO Group did not respond to questions related to the allegations or about details of the facility's expansion. As we drive by the side of the detention center, detainees wearing orange jumpsuits get close to the fence and start shouting at us, Help. They ain't treating us good out here. Help. They ain't treating us good out here. Detainees yell at us.

[Local Resident / Community Member]

If I was detained behind barbed wire like that, I would be only help too, to somebody coming down a dirt road, no doubt. I mean, that's the humanity side of this, right?

[Local Resident / Interviewee]

Most folks don't think of it in a moral issue here.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

That's 24 year old Savannah Pollock, a medical student and one of the few local residents speaking out against the detention center. She was born and raised in Folkestone. Her grandfather is a preacher at a Baptist church. A family member also serves on the county board.

[Local Resident / Interviewee]

When you're in a poverty level, we're just thinking about, how can I get Money in my pocket. And that's where they bring up this, you know, we just don't have jobs conversation. But I say that this is just something you don't want to build your future upon, something that changes every four years.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

That's because the operation of this detention center is dependent on the political winds, and things can quickly change. And that whiplash is something this county has experienced, experienced in the past. A hospital that was a major employer suddenly closed, leading to unemployment, a healthcare desert, and a blighted building. The same happened with lumber mills and titanium mines. Even the detention center was once a state prison that also closed, leaving more than 300 locals out of work. But Administrator hall is optimistic that having ICE here might give them leverage.

[Local Resident / Community Member]

I won't put it in the words of quid pro quo, but we are supporting a major federal policy with this administration, and we need a hospital.

[Sponsor / Advertisement Voice]

No matter what other fun community services GEO Group might someday provide. Ultimately, they're going to prioritize what makes them money.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

Immigration attorney Samantha Hamilton is with the group. Shut down Folkestone ICE processing center, and.

[Sponsor / Advertisement Voice]

What makes them money is locking people up.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

Hamilton has represented detainees in Folkestone.

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It is endemic to this capitalist system that holds these rural communities hostage to make them feel like there is nothing else that they can do but accept this gift, quote, unquote, that is presented to them.

[Local Resident / Interviewee]

I don't want to be known for that because our reputation ain't that.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

That's resident Savannah Pollock again. She says she loves her town and does not want its reputation tarnished.

[Local Resident / Interviewee]

You know, we're folks who. We'll travel across the state to go see you play football. You know, I got folks still cheering me on to go to medical schools. That's who these people are. And if they could, they would ride and die for this town if they had the pocket to do it. I don't think that's who we are. The ICE center ain't. And I hate that they're taking advantage of us and making us look as if that's us.

[NPR Reporter / Narrator (possibly Sergio Martinez Beltran)]

But whether it's in Folkestone or elsewhere, expanding or creating detention centers is key in President Trump's goal of deporting millions of undocumented immigrants, an unprecedented agenda that his administration says has already resulted in more than 400,000 deportations.

[Ailsa Chang]

That was NPR's Sergio Martinez Beltran in Folkeston, Georgia. This episode was produced by Liz Baker, Elena Burnett and Connor Donovan, with audio engineering by Hannah Glovna. It was edited by Eric Westervelt and Justine Kennan. Our executive producer is Sami Yeniken.

[Local Resident / Interviewee]

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[Ailsa Chang]

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