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Scott Detrow
In the days since the United States and Israel launched an attack on Iran, the Trump administration has given a wide range of reasons why the US Is now at war. Here's President Trump in an early video message on Saturday addressing the Iranian people.
President Donald Trump
When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours to take. This will be probably your only chance for generations.
Scott Detrow
By Monday morning, his Defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, was giving a different reason. This is not a so called regime change war, but the regime sure did
Tom Bowman
change and the world is better off for it.
Scott Detrow
Trump's first public comments, not pre recorded videos on social media, didn't come until two days after the attacks began. At a White House Medal of Honor ceremony, he listed four objectives. Regime change was not one of them.
President Donald Trump
First, we're destroying Iran's missile capabilities and you see that happening on an hourly basis and their capacity to produce brand new ones and pretty good ones they make. Second, we're annihilating their navy. We've knocked out already 10 ships. They're at the bottom of the sea. Third, we're ensuring that the world's number one sponsor of terror can never obtain a nuclear weapon. Never going to have a nuclear weapon. I said that from the beginning. They're never going to have a nuclear weapon. They were on the road to getting one legitimately through a deal that was signed foolishly by our country. And finally, we're ensuring that the Iranian regime cannot continue to arm, fund and direct terrorist armies outside of their borders.
Scott Detrow
Consider this regime change, the nuclear program, terrorism why exactly is the US at war with Iran? From NPR, I'm Scott Detrow.
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Scott Detrow
It's considered this from NPR. President Trump spoke publicly about the ongoing U.S. military strikes in Iran today at the White House. He said this moment was the last best chance to strike at Iran's nuclear weapons program last year. It's worth noting the president said the program had been completely decimated by US Military strikes. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff Dan Kaine also spoke today at the Pentagon, updating reporters on the military campaign and its objectives and trying to explain to Americans why the country is suddenly at war. We are joined now by NPR Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman and NPR White House correspondent Franco Ordonez. Hi there.
Tom Bowman
Hey, Scott.
President Donald Trump
Hey, Scott.
Scott Detrow
Franco, I'm going to start with you. This is the first time we have heard from the president beyond posts on social media. What did we learn?
Franco Ordonez
Yeah, he echoed a lot of what we've already heard from him, but he did say that operations would continue for four to five weeks, but they could actually go on longer. And he boasted that operations were actually ahead of schedule because they had expected it would take weeks to eliminate military leadership. But that was actually accomplished in the first set of strikes, really within the first few hours. And Trump gave a bit more detail on the specific objectives that he says need to be met before stopping the attacks. There are four of them. One is destroying Iran's ballistic missile capabilities. Two is taking out their navy. He noted that They've already sunk 10 ships since the strikes began. Three is ensuring that Iran never gets a nuclear weapon. Of course, he has said, and he said again that the program was obliterated, but that Iran was trying to get it going again. He also accused the regime of playing games with the US during those negotiations.
President Donald Trump
And we thought we had a deal, but then they backed out and they came back and we thought we had a deal and they backed out. I said, you can't deal with these people. You got to do it the right way.
Franco Ordonez
And finally, Scott, fourth reason, ensuring that Iran does not continue to fund direct militant proxy groups like Hezbollah and Hamas that fight across the region.
Scott Detrow
Okay. And Tom, what about the Pentagon press conference today? What did that tell us?
Tom Bowman
Well, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Joint Chiefs Chairman General Dan Kaine briefed the press again, talking about taking out, as Franco said, taking out Iranian missiles, its nuclear program and navy. Now, there already have been six American soldiers killed in Kuwait by an Iranian missile and as many as 18 wounded. And General Kaine said this is just the beginning of this operation and also to expect more casualties. Let's listen. This is not a single overnight operation. The military objectives at CENTCOM and the Joint Force have been tasked with will take some time to achieve and in some cases will be difficult and gritty work. We expect to take additional losses and as always, we will work to minimize US Losses. But as the secretary said, this is major combat operations. Now this is a tactical look. Scott, we're still not getting a sense of the overall way ahead. Hegseth and others said it's not regime change, but this is regime change by the barrel of a gun. Hill staffers were briefed, were asking, well, why now? What is the imminent threat? They did not get a satisfactory answer. And I'm told lawmakers will get a briefing and will likely have the same questions as well.
Scott Detrow
There are still so many questions here. I'm curious, did anything really stand out to you from the briefing?
Tom Bowman
Yeah. Secretary Haigs has said there are no rules of engagement and I'm told some people, military people, are outraged by that. They there are rules to protect civilians, especially when you're dropping, you know, thousand pound bombs and missiles fired from ships and aircraft. There are reports that a U.S. missile destroyed a girls school in Iran, killing more than 100. A military spokesman put out a statement saying they're looking into those reports adding, quote, the protection of civilians is of utmost importance to us. Now, one other thing I'd like to point out. The administration has offered differing rationales for this ongoing attack, including the Iranians would soon have the ability to have a missile capable of reaching the United States. The Defense Intelligence Agency has reported that they could possibly build one that could reach the United States by 2035. But now, of course, that timeline is off. Yeah.
Scott Detrow
So Franco, I'm going to go back to the White House and you beyond the president posting on social media, really there was very little communication by any administration officials over the weekend. Is that unusual?
Franco Ordonez
Yeah, I mean it's very unusual. I mean historically, presidents would often, you know, make a case to the American people. They'd explain why this needed to happen at this moment, for example. But you know, this president didn't do that. You know, we got really more vague explanations of the dangers. You know, at the State of the Union address, he kind of jumbled together some of those concerns that he has and the administration has, but no plan. The president also did not seek backing from Congress or even ask for authorization to go to war. And that's really going to be a debate this week on Capitol Hill. Ever since the strike started, Scott, the White House has really just clamped down on messaging. You know, except for some short phone interviews with select media outlets, Trump has really only taken a few questions about his plans, none on camera, by the way. And until today, the only time we saw him was, you know, getting on and off the plane and returning to the White House. I mean, frankly, the messaging has just been so mixed. He told the New York Post, for example, that he's not ruling out sending US Ground troops in Iran if they were necessary. And then today he did not say that he's calling for Iranians to rise up and take over the country as he has before.
Scott Detrow
Let's get back to the key question here. Do we know more about the rationale for why now or more on the internal deliberations that led to these strikes?
Franco Ordonez
Yeah, I mean, so much of this is based on the argument that Iran poses an immediate threat, an imminent threat to the United States. But the president has not presented any hard evidence of that. And just again, he's not letting anyone ask about that evidence. I mean, even today, while his first public comments in front of cameras, he didn't take any questions, which, Scott, you will know better than anybody. That is very unusual for this president. He's always taking questions, always happy to. And, you know, there are many questions, especially what is the plan going forward? What are they going to do once all this infrastructure is destroyed? I mean, he doesn't explain what is the plan for the long term. I mean, is the plan really just to leave this all to the Iranian people to deal with?
Scott Detrow
Tom Bowman, I'm going to go back to you about conditions inside Iran. So many key leaders were decapitated in strikes this weekend, which leads to another key question. Who is running the country? Was that addressed by U.S. military officials?
Tom Bowman
Well, it was not addressed by military leaders who of course are in charge of the tactical pictures, you know, targets and so forth. We do don't have a good sense of who's in charge. A three person leadership council holds power until a new supreme leader is named, especially expected in the coming days.
Scott Detrow
I mean, question for both of you. You have both covered a lot of similar storylines to this. Any sense of how this plays out? Are there off ramps? Could we still see negotiations? Could this pull the US Military into a protracted conflict? I mean, we're all thinking about the recent Iraq wars in previous decades.
Tom Bowman
Well, Iranian leaders are saying they will not negotiate. They'll continue to resist, continue to attack with missiles. A retired senior officer told me the concern is Iranians have more missiles then the US has interceptors. Also. This is spreading already. The US has mounted airstrikes against Iranian backed militias in Iraq and you could see more of that in Iraq and elsewhere. It's hard at this point to say whether or not this will be a protracted conflict like you saw in Iraq and Afghanistan. There's no sense any US Troops will be heading to Iran, which of course would lead to a long and bloody fight.
Franco Ordonez
You know, there's really the question about how this plays out politically as well, with the midterm campaign season about to kick into high gear. I mean, if it turns into the protracted conflict, Republicans are worried because they want to shift toward the economy.
Scott Detrow
NPR's Franco Ordonez and Tom Bowman, thanks to you both.
Tom Bowman
You're welcome.
Scott Detrow
Thank you. This episode was produced by Lauren Hodges and Karen Zamora with audio engineering by Ted Mebane. It was edited by Andrew Sussman, Patrick Jaron Watananan and Courtney Dorning. Our executive producer, Sami Yenigun. It's consider this from npr. I'm Scott Detrow.
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Podcast: Consider This from NPR
Date: March 2, 2026
Host: Scott Detrow
Guests: Tom Bowman (Pentagon Correspondent), Franco Ordoñez (White House Correspondent)
Episode Purpose: To break down the complex reasons behind the recent U.S. war with Iran, examining official narratives, unanswered questions, and the broader implications for the U.S., Iran, and the world.
This episode seeks to clarify why the United States, along with Israel, launched a large-scale military campaign against Iran. The hosts analyze the public statements from President Trump and key officials, dissect shifting justifications for the conflict, and discuss what is known— and not known— about the rationale, the operation's objectives, the risks, and possible outcomes.
President Trump's Early Statement:
“When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours to take. This will be probably your only chance for generations.” — President Trump [00:13]
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth:
“This is not a so called regime change war, but the regime sure did change and the world is better off for it.” — Tom Bowman [00:33]
President Trump’s Four Objectives at Medal of Honor Ceremony:
“First, we're destroying Iran's missile capabilities... Second, we're annihilating their navy... Third, we're ensuring that... [Iran] can never obtain a nuclear weapon... And finally, we're ensuring that the Iranian regime cannot continue to arm, fund and direct terrorist armies outside of their borders.” — President Trump [00:50]
Lack of Clear Messaging:
“Historically, presidents would often, you know, make a case to the American people… this president didn’t do that.” — Franco Ordoñez [07:44]
No Congressional Authorization or Seeking Backing:
Briefing Details:
“This is not a single overnight operation… We expect to take additional losses and as always, we will work to minimize US Losses.” — General Dan Kaine (paraphrased by Tom Bowman) [06:13]
“Secretary Haigs has said there are no rules of engagement and I'm told some people, military people, are outraged by that.” — Tom Bowman [06:40]
Claims of Imminent Threat Unsubstantiated:
“The president has not presented any hard evidence of that. And just again, he's not letting anyone ask about that evidence.” — Franco Ordoñez [09:08]
Who’s in Charge in Iran?
“We don’t have a good sense of who’s in charge. A three person leadership council holds power until a new supreme leader is named.” — Tom Bowman [10:02]
No Long-term Strategy Explained:
“Iranian leaders are saying they will not negotiate. They'll continue to resist, continue to attack with missiles… The concern is Iranians have more missiles than the U.S. has interceptors.” — Tom Bowman [10:37]
“If it turns into the protracted conflict, Republicans are worried because they want to shift toward the economy.” — Franco Ordoñez [11:10]
“He told the New York Post, for example, that he's not ruling out sending US Ground troops in Iran if they were necessary. And then today he did not say that he's calling for Iranians to rise up and take over the country as he has before.” — Franco Ordoñez [07:44]
“The president also did not seek backing from Congress or even ask for authorization to go to war. And that's really going to be a debate this week on Capitol Hill.” [07:44]
“There are reports that a U.S. missile destroyed a girls school in Iran, killing more than 100… military people are outraged…” — Tom Bowman [06:40]
“This is just the beginning of this operation and also to expect more casualties.” — General Dan Kaine (via Tom Bowman) [05:21]
The episode underscores profound confusion and lack of transparency about the fundamental reasons behind the U.S. war with Iran. Despite repeated justifications, ranging from missile threats to regional terrorism, neither the Trump administration nor the Pentagon has supplied clear public evidence of immediate danger or a strategy for what comes next. As casualties rise and the situation escalates, key questions remain unanswered for Americans, lawmakers, and the international community—casting uncertainty on the road ahead.