Podcast Summary: "Wicked" Star Cynthia Erivo Can Relate to Being Viewed as Different
Consider This from NPR
Release Date: November 25, 2024
In this compelling episode of NPR's Consider This, host Scott Detrow engages in an insightful conversation with Cynthia Erivo, the acclaimed star of the highly anticipated film adaptation of the Broadway sensation Wicked. Erivo delves deep into her portrayal of Elphaba, the misunderstood "Wicked Witch of the West," drawing parallels between her character's journey and her own experiences of feeling like an outsider.
Entering the World of Oz
Stepping Onto the Set
Cynthia Erivo shares her initial reaction to joining the Wicked film, describing the overwhelming experience of immersing herself in the meticulously crafted world of Oz.
Cynthia Erivo [03:59]: "I mean, it was really, really overwhelming... Everything is really practical. So Nathan Crowley and his wonderful set designing team created the World of Oz. So when we were on the set, we were on the set. Very little green screen... I loved the feelings. Very overwhelming. That very first day was a lot."
Erivo emphasizes the tangible nature of the set, which allowed her to fully inhabit her character without relying heavily on special effects. This practical approach enhanced her ability to connect emotionally with the environment and her role.
From Audience to Performer
Personal Connection to Wicked and Outsider Themes
Reflecting on her lifelong connection to The Wizard of Oz and Wicked, Erivo discusses how these stories shaped her understanding of feeling different and marginalized.
Cynthia Erivo [05:43]: "I think there's something about a story about a person who feels like they're on the outside, who's treated like they're different, that just sort of clung to me. I got it immediately."
Erivo recounts her journey from learning the music of Wicked during drama school to finally experiencing the show live. This personal resonance with Elphaba's struggle as an outsider fueled her passion for the role and underscored the universal themes of acceptance and self-discovery.
Embodying Elphaba’s Struggle
Exploring the Depths of an Outsider
Detrow probes into how Erivo navigated portraying Elphaba's complex emotions, particularly her longing to fit in while simultaneously pushing others away.
Cynthia Erivo [06:35]: "I think it was on the surface for me, like very, very easy to access. Very close to the bone for me. I think I've always seen her as an outsider and I think I've always thought of myself as an outsider."
Erivo reveals that her own feelings of being different provided a profound foundation for her performance. She discusses specific scenes where Elphaba's vulnerability shines through, highlighting moments that were both challenging and cathartic to portray.
Cynthia Erivo [07:03]: "It's a defense mechanism... And when it isn't that, I think it's the first time that she allows everyone to see how hurt she is."
The actress candidly shares the emotional toll of filming these intense scenes, underscoring the authenticity she brings to Elphaba's character.
Relevance in Today’s World
Themes of Us vs. Them
The conversation shifts to the enduring relevance of Wicked's themes, particularly the dichotomy of 'us versus them' and the scapegoating of marginalized groups.
Cynthia Erivo [09:08]: "We're still shunning certain people. We're still not making space for people. But there is room to change. There is room for empathy, there is room for growth. So I do think it's always going to be relevant."
Erivo draws parallels between the societal issues depicted in Wicked and contemporary struggles with inclusion and acceptance. She emphasizes the importance of empathy and the ongoing need for societal growth to foster a more inclusive environment.
A Message to the Outsiders
Empowerment Through Difference
Addressing listeners who identify with feelings of being outsiders, Erivo offers words of encouragement and affirmation.
Cynthia Erivo [09:54]: "That thing that makes you feel like an outsider is that thing that also makes you special. I'm definitely not like your cookie cutter normal everyday being... it's very freeing."
Erivo highlights the unique strengths that come from being different, encouraging individuals to embrace their uniqueness as a source of empowerment and potential. She shares her personal journey of accepting her differences as pivotal to her success and fulfillment.
Conclusion
Cynthia Erivo's discussion on Consider This provides a profound exploration of identity, acceptance, and the transformative power of embracing one's uniqueness. Through her portrayal of Elphaba, Erivo not only brings depth to a beloved character but also offers a universal message of resilience and self-acceptance. This episode serves as both an intimate look into Erivo's artistry and a broader commentary on societal themes that remain as pertinent today as ever.
Notable Quotes:
- Cynthia Erivo [03:59]: "Everything is really practical. So Nathan Crowley and his wonderful set designing team created the World of Oz."
- Cynthia Erivo [06:35]: "I've always seen her as an outsider and I think I've always thought of myself as an outsider."
- Cynthia Erivo [09:54]: "That thing that makes you feel like an outsider is that thing that also makes you special."
This episode, produced by Mallory Yu and Mark Rivers and edited by Sarah Handel and Jeanette Woods, offers listeners an enriching perspective on Wicked through the lens of Cynthia Erivo's personal and professional experiences.