Podcast Summary – Consider This from NPR
Episode: "Young Conservatives Are Asking What's Next For the Movement Charlie Kirk Started"
Date: September 11, 2025
Host: Ari Shapiro
Guest: Elena Moore, NPR Political Reporter
Brief Overview
This episode of Consider This dives into the sudden assassination of Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA and a central figure in the conservative youth movement. NPR’s Ari Shapiro and political reporter Elena Moore discuss Kirk’s impact, the shock and grief from his followers, and the uncertain future for the young conservative movement in the wake of his death.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Charlie Kirk’s Rise and Legacy
- Kirk’s origins as a young, ambitious conservative organizer at CPAC (00:00–01:40).
- Notable quote (Matt Schlapp describing Kirk): “He was intent on forming a new group and forming a movement, and he did just that and did it with a lot of grace, and got the attention of so many people.” (00:22)
- Founding of Turning Point USA in 2012, which would become a massive political network with 800+ college chapters (00:33).
- Kirk’s unapologetic, confrontational style was polarizing but made him a face of the youth “MAGA” movement.
2. Kirk’s Controversial Views
- Known for provocative positions on abortion, gun rights, and gender roles.
- Direct quotes from Kirk (played in episode):
- On abortion: “So you’re comparing abortion to the Holocaust? Absolutely, I am. In fact, it’s worse.” (02:00)
- On guns: “I think it’s worth to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights.” (02:10)
- On Taylor Swift and gender roles: “Maybe one of the reasons why Taylor Swift has been so just kind of annoyingly liberal over the last couple of years is that she’s not yet married and she doesn’t have children.” (02:20)
- Direct quotes from Kirk (played in episode):
3. Reactions to Kirk’s Assassination
- President Trump remarks from the Oval Office, expressing grief and outrage at Kirk’s killing.
- Kirk’s followers are described as being in “shock and grief.” (03:44–04:15)
- Florida Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna credits her political career to Kirk.
- Luna’s emotional statement: “I saw a lot of videos online after I had to watch my friend bleed out of people celebrating his death. That should be condemned and removed from polite society.” (05:01)
4. Kirk’s Impact on Young Conservatives
- Kirk entered national politics at a time when the right lacked youthful, visible leaders and positioned his movement as a counterculture to Obama-era progressivism (05:25).
- Massive growth of Turning Point USA and its influence in recruiting and inspiring Gen Z conservatives.
- Elena Moore: “It’s really hard to overstate his influence in developing a new generation of conservative leaders.” (06:19)
- Hayden Padgett (Young Republicans): “The impact Charlie was building is not about finding politicians and put them in office today. It was about finding literally millions of young people who otherwise would never have heard conservative ideas and believe them and then now fight for them.” (06:39)
5. The Evolution of Conservative Youth Politics
- Kirk’s messaging centered on free speech, free markets, and limited government, but also embraced the Trumpian style and rhetoric (06:58).
- The conservative youth movement has become more mainstream, now playing a key role in Republican politics and shifting the “youth vote” toward Trump.
- Ari Shapiro quotes Charlie Kirk: “They don’t look at it as economic or social. There’s one above. They just want to live in the same country as their parents… they feel it slipping away. They feel as if insanity is creeping into their institutions.” (07:33)
6. The Movement’s Future Without Kirk
- There’s consensus among young conservatives that Kirk’s role is irreplaceable, but his influence is motivating new leaders to step up (08:01).
- Mention of Bryland Hollyhand (19), chair of the GOP’s Youth Advisory Council, calling for Kirk’s memory to energize a new generation (08:10).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- Matt Schlapp (CPAC Chairman) (00:22):
“He was intent on forming a new group and forming a movement and he did just that…” - Charlie Kirk (02:00, 02:10, 02:20):
“Absolutely, I am. In fact, it’s worse.” (On abortion vs. Holocaust)
“It’s worth to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths…” (On gun rights)
“Maybe one of the reasons why Taylor Swift has been so just kind of annoyingly liberal…” - Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (05:01):
“I saw a lot of videos online after I had to watch my friend bleed out of people celebrating his death. That should be condemned and removed from polite society.” - Hayden Padgett (Young Republican National Federation) (06:39):
“The impact Charlie was building is not about finding politicians and put them in office today. It was about finding literally millions of young people … and then now fight for them.” - Charlie Kirk (recounted by Ari Shapiro, 07:33):
“They just want to live in the same country as their parents… and they feel it slipping away.”
Important Timestamps
| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00 | Introduction to Charlie Kirk’s legacy and his start at CPAC | | 01:40 | Kirk’s controversial public statements; highlights of his rhetoric | | 03:44 | Ari and Elena Moore begin deeper dive into Kirk’s follower reactions | | 04:15 | Luna’s personal story and her debt to Kirk’s mentorship | | 06:08 | Turning Point USA’s growth and influence in GOP politics | | 06:39 | Hayden Padgett on the core aim of Kirk’s movement | | 07:33 | Kirk’s take on young voters’ motives (as quoted by Shapiro) | | 08:01 | The question of movement leadership post-Kirk | | 08:10 | Mention of Bryland Hollyhand and the next generation’s response |
Conclusion
This episode reflects on the impact Charlie Kirk had in forging a dynamic, sometimes controversial youth conservative movement. While the country’s political right reels from his assassination, young conservatives are questioning how to carry on his legacy and whether anyone can fill the unique space Kirk occupied in American politics.
The conversation highlights the transformative power of one figure—and the uncertainty and opportunity his absence now creates for the future of the conservative movement.
