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Brigitte Boisselier
And so now we have three scientists working almost full time in a lab to produce a human embryo by human cloning.
Interviewer
Why do you want to do it?
Brigitte Boisselier
Four years ago, when I heard all the establishments saying this is so bad and all these things, I said I have to do it and show that this is only a baby, a little baby, the belated twin of an individual. And that's it. It's not a monster. It's not all. You know what? We have been hearing so many bad things about this baby.
Narrator
That was the voice of a scientist named Brigitte Borsolier. Forgive my French pronunciation. She was appearing on C Span to discuss human cloning. A year later, on December 27th of 2002, she announced at a press conference in Florida that she and her company Clonaid, had, in an undisclosed country, successfully cloned the first human being. If this was true at the time, it would have been an historic scientific accomplishment. It still would be, albeit a politically and ethically controversial one. Media coverage and discussion was extensive. A baby named Eve, she said, was a live born clone produced for an infertile couple and was an exact genetic copy of her mother. But Brigitte provided no photo of the baby or any other evidence for what she was saying. And then two days later, she announced that Eve would be flying into the US with her family the following day. By the end of the week, she said, we should have the results from DNA sampling and be able to share all the details. She agreed to have a former science editor from ABC select experts who would draw and evaluate the samples from mother and child. Boisselier, who holds two chemistry doctorates, also said that several more cloned babies were expected to be born in the coming weeks. I said this was controversial. In short order, a Florida lawyer named Bernie Siegel filed suit against Brigitte and Clonade on behalf of the child. He said the child may not be receiving proper medical care and could be at risk for exploitation. The scientists defense, Eve was not born in the US she and her family were apparently in Israel and they had broken off all contact with her. She said they would never speak to the press now. No evidence for the existence of Eve was ever forthcoming. But Boisselier stayed in the news. She claimed over the next two years to have been involved in the birth of 13 more clones, never providing any evidence to back up these claims. Most scientific and journalistic observers at that time came to believe that the whole affair was a hoax designed to generate publicity and money. But who is this controversial scientist and what does she have to do with our human destiny to become gods in the image of our alien creators? Funny you should ask. I'm Julian Walker. Welcome to Conspirituality. If you're hearing this on our main feed, please consider joining us on Patreon to hear this entire episode. In these times, independent journalists need all the support we can get. This is the latest installment in my series called the Roots of Conspirituality, which has so far traced a lineage from the Great awakening of the 1840s in America's northeast, during which true believers in the prophecy of William Miller climbed onto rooftops to await the second coming of Jesus to Seventh Day Adventist founder Ellen G. White, whose visionary trances inspired her to forbid masturbation, caffeine and meat to her followers to the spiritualists in New York City who performed communication with the dead before packed theaters to Russian aristocrat Madame Helena Blavatsky's synthesis of world religions as channeled to her by the ascended masters to the founders of UFO religions of the 1950s, who, inspired by Blavatsky, believed that human prophets and sages were actually aliens all along, after this was revealed to them during rides on their spaceships. But who was Brigitte Boisselier? Well, she's still alive. She was then and remains still a senior figure in a new religious movement started by a Frenchman named Claude Verrion in 1973. And that movement, called the Raelians, is the subject of our episode today.
Julian Walker
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Conspirituality Podcast: Bonus Sample Episode - "God is a Cloned Alien Love-Machine!"
Release Date: April 21, 2025
In the Bonus Sample Episode titled "God is a Cloned Alien Love-Machine!", the Conspirituality Podcast delves into the controversial claims surrounding human cloning and its intricate ties with new religious movements. Hosted by Julian Walker, with contributions from Derek Beres and Matthew Remski, this episode explores the intersection of scientific ambition, ethical dilemmas, and conspiratorial spirituality.
Opening Discussion [00:03 - 04:54]:
The episode opens with a detailed account of Brigitte Boisselier, a French scientist who gained notoriety for her claims of successfully cloning a human embryo.
Brigitte Boisselier's Claims:
Public and Scientific Reception:
Connection to Conspirituality:
Julian Walker provides a comprehensive overview of the Roots of Conspirituality, tracing its lineage through various historical movements:
Great Awakening (1840s):
Seventh Day Adventist Movement:
Spiritualism in New York City:
Madame Helena Blavatsky and Theosophy:
UFO Religions of the 1950s:
This historical context underscores the evolution of conspirituality, highlighting how spiritual beliefs have often intersected with emerging scientific paradigms and conspiratorial thinking.
Central to the episode is the exploration of the Raelian Movement, founded by Frenchman Claude Vorilhon in 1973:
Beliefs and Practices:
Brigitte Boisselier’s Role:
Brigitte Boisselier on Cloning Motivation [00:13]:
"Four years ago, when I heard all the establishments saying this is so bad and all these things, I said I have to do it and show that this is only a baby, a little baby, the belated twin of an individual."
Julian Walker on the Evolution of Conspirituality:
While not a direct quote from the transcript, Walker's narration emphasizes the blending of scientific pursuits with esoteric and conspiratorial beliefs, highlighting the complex dynamics at play within the conspiritual landscape.
The episode concludes by reflecting on the broader implications of figures like Brigitte Boisselier within the conspiritual framework:
Ethical Concerns: The pursuit of human cloning raises significant ethical questions, especially when intertwined with spiritual or conspiratorial motives.
Influence on Public Perception: Such high-profile claims, whether true or fabricated, can sway public opinion on scientific advancements and fuel distrust in established institutions.
Conspirituality's Evolution: The blending of new age spirituality with conspiracy theories continues to evolve, with movements like the Raelians exemplifying this trend by integrating extraterrestrial beliefs with scientific endeavors.
This bonus sample episode of Conspirituality provides a thought-provoking examination of the intersections between human cloning, ethical considerations, and new religious movements. By dissecting the case of Brigitte Boisselier and her affiliations, the podcast sheds light on the complex web of beliefs and motivations that drive conspiritual phenomena.
For those intrigued by the convergence of spirituality, conspiracy, and science, this episode offers valuable insights into the forces shaping contemporary spiritual landscapes.
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