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Derek Barris
In the 2016 presidential election, Gen X cast 35.7 million votes, which was the highest turnout for our age demographic up to that point. In 2020, it was 36 million votes. And then in 2024, estimates say up to 44 million of us voted. And with each election, Gen X has been getting more conservative, or as many headlines have stated, trumpier. I want to meditate on what happened to my generation today. Let's start by looking at some data. Gen X was already showing signs of being less Democratic than millennials in 2016. Back then, 49% of Gen X voters leaned Democratic compared to 55% of millennials. Exit polls at the time indicate that we were more evenly split than Boomers or Millennials, but leaned slightly right of center. And then we get to 2020, and even though Biden won, Gen X edged further right, voting for Trump by a 1 point margin. Millennials and Gen Z were more evenly split at that time. Then came 2024. Gen X favored Trump by a 6 to 9 point margin. And that made us his strongest generational base. Millennials and Boomers moved less dramatically, and Boomers trended slightly more Democratic in the last elect in the last election cycle than they had previously. Some reporting on Gen Xers found that we feel financially insecure and that was the reason for this shift. Data do back this up, given that we're unlikely to earn more than our parents did. But in my opinion, it doesn't really explain my generation's turn towards Trump. A man who is not going to help out anyone who's not a billionaire or has the Trump name. While reviewing materials for this episode, I've read that Trump's brash style, his irreverence, his use of irony, appealed to Gen X sensibilities. His controversial statements were apparently less off putting compared to other generations. I mean, maybe a lot of that has to do with geography. I grew up in Jersey in the 80s. We all knew that Trump was a hack, especially after what he did to Atlantic City. There's a certain type of person that you quickly knew not to trust, and Trump embodies that person perfectly. He's like a caricature of that person. But I also recognize how power and money are so seductive. So it makes sense that he'd have lackeys around, just not as many as I thought he would. There are a few other explanations that I'll entertain during this episode. I think the cynicism angle holds some weight, but not all of it. We are the latchkey generation. That is true. I started walking to school by myself. In first grade, it was about a half a mile away. Parents just sent me off and I walked home. I mean, there would be entire days I wouldn't see my parents. They didn't ask me where I was and I didn't tell them. I didn't speak to them much at all. And that's not unusual among at least my anecdotal cohort of people who I grew up with. Perhaps now I am a little bit more unusual in that I'm really close with my parents and so many of my friends aren't. But regardless, I get this impulse to assign our independent upbringings with Trump's selfish policies and his ego, but I don't think that's it either. And of course we have to talk about the music and the movies because that is so definitional of Gen X. We had a very specific genre of both, but all generations do. In the 80s, we had the good guy always win John Cusack hero's Journey ethos, which I remember fondly. But I also realized how ill prepared that made me for reality because of that sort of good guy is always going to win mentality. And to be honest, the whiteness of it all fit quite well into the Reaganomics dynamic America was enduring at that time. I will say, though, I'm happy to report that unlike a number of my childhood heroes, John Cusack is a prolific anti maga voice on social media. So that makes me happy. And the music, of course, was all about the rage. And I know music isn't life, but it does reflect life and the time and the culture that breeds it. The most common comparison that you'll see in media is that Gen X once raged against the machine and now they put Trump in power. I have some personal weight in that. I mean, Rage against the Machine was extremely influential in 1993. I got to hang out with Tom Morello when I was a freshman in college just for an evening, but it was really informative and incredible. And then a couple years later, I wrote a cover story for a magazine about Rage against the Machine and talked to Tom and, and caught up with him then. And thankfully he is definitely still the anti Trump. I understand the idea that the entire generation was raging, but as we're going to get into it didn't represent all of my peers. And that's really important to point out. So I'm Derek Barris. You're listening to a conspirituality bonus episode. How did Gen X go? Maga? Let's get into it. You've been listening to a Conspirituality Bonus episode sample. 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Conspirituality Podcast: Bonus Sample Episode Summary
Episode Title: How Did Gen X Go MAGA
Release Date: May 5, 2025
Hosts: Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker
In the bonus episode titled "How Did Gen X Go MAGA," host Derek Barris delves into the intriguing political shift of Generation X towards supporting Donald Trump. The discussion explores voting patterns from recent presidential elections, underlying factors contributing to this trend, and personal reflections on the generational transformation.
Derek Barris opens the episode by presenting compelling data on the voting behavior of Gen X across three consecutive presidential elections:
2016 Presidential Election:
"In the 2016 presidential election, Gen X cast 35.7 million votes, which was the highest turnout for our age demographic up to that point." ([00:03])
2020 Presidential Election:
"In 2020, it was 36 million votes." ([00:03])
2024 Presidential Election:
"Estimates say up to 44 million of us voted." ([00:03])
Barris highlights a notable shift towards conservatism within Gen X:
2016:
"49% of Gen X voters leaned Democratic compared to 55% of millennials." ([00:03])
2020:
Despite Joe Biden's victory, Gen X edged further right, voting for Trump by a "1 point margin." ([00:03])
2024:
Gen X favored Trump by a significant "6 to 9 point margin," establishing them as his strongest generational base. Meanwhile, Millennials and Boomers exhibited less dramatic shifts, with Boomers trending slightly more Democratic. ([00:03])
Media reports suggest that financial insecurity among Gen X is a driving factor:
However, Barris questions whether this alone explains the gravitation towards Trump:
Barris explores how Trump's persona resonates with Gen X:
He adds a personal anecdote to illustrate this connection:
Barris considers the impact of Gen X's upbringing on their political leanings:
He reflects on how this independence may correlate with a preference for Trump's individualistic and self-reliant image:
The hosts discuss how Gen X's cultural backdrop shapes their worldview:
Movies:
"In the 80s, we had the good guy always win John Cusack hero's Journey ethos... how ill-prepared that made me for reality because of that sort of good guy is always going to win mentality." ([00:03])
Music:
"The music, of course, was all about the rage... The most common comparison that you'll see in media is that Gen X once raged against the machine and now they put Trump in power." ([00:03])
Barris shares a personal connection with influential bands:
Throughout the episode, Barris intertwines data with personal experiences to provide a nuanced perspective:
"I also recognize how power and money are so seductive. So it makes sense that he'd have lackeys around, just not as many as I thought he would." ([00:03])
"Unlike a number of my childhood heroes, John Cusack is a prolific anti MAGA voice on social media. So that makes me happy." ([00:03])
Barris emphasizes the diversity within Gen X, challenging the notion of a monolithic generational shift:
In "How Did Gen X Go MAGA," Derek Barris and the Conspirituality team dissect the complex factors contributing to Generation X's political realignment towards Donald Trump. By analyzing voting data, economic concerns, cultural influences, and personal narratives, the episode offers a comprehensive understanding of this generational shift. The discussion underscores that while financial insecurity and cultural sensibilities play significant roles, the motivations are multifaceted and deeply personal.
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